1 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This he is Talking Cowboys, 3 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: screening live from the Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the 4 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:32,160 Speaker 1: Star in Frisco. Sat. Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian Brons, 5 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:37,560 Speaker 1: Rob Phillips, and Bill Jones. What's up? Welcome into Talking 6 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 1: Cowboys inside the SWBC Mortgage studio. As the returning Mickey 7 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:45,559 Speaker 1: Spagnola would say, it's a blue Monday out here at 8 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 1: the Star in Frisco, but we're here for the next 9 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:50,200 Speaker 1: hour to talk about it. Rob Phillips hosting for Bill 10 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 1: Jones today, Brian brought us joining as always, read his 11 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 1: notebook on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Right now breaking down 12 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 1: the cowboys sixteen to eight opening loss Carolina, William Boykin's 13 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:07,400 Speaker 1: next door producing and before we get started, welcome back, Mick. Yeah. 14 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 1: Should I hang my headphones on the on the mic here? Yeah? Sure, 15 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 1: that was pretty cute. I hang them up. That's being 16 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: really creative, right there, some creative producing. Yes, absolutely, that 17 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 1: was kind of genius. I expecting done. I expect we 18 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:25,319 Speaker 1: have more drops of you, Mickey, so we could have 19 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 1: just done you from Scott Ahead and just kept dropping 20 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 1: and have my answers. Yeah, I expected to see one 21 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 1: of those big head fans sitting here, you know, with 22 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:35,839 Speaker 1: my face on it, a big mickey fathead. That'd be cool. 23 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:40,399 Speaker 1: I watched, Yeah, almost called in, but I didn't want 24 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:43,959 Speaker 1: to stop down the show. Blood pressure, Okay after watching 25 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 1: that night, Yeah, I think so it actually went down 26 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: this morning. That's good. That's good. We're glad to have 27 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 1: you back. Glad you're feeling better, and uh, glad you 28 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 1: could join us for breaking down a tough loss yesterday. 29 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 1: I mean, there was some good, There was some and 30 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 1: like Brian's headline said on the website, there was definitely 31 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 1: some ugly. Cowboys lose of the Panthers sixteen to eight, 32 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 1: fifth time in the last nine games this football team 33 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 1: hasn't reached ten points. Yeah, single digit points. Offense struggled. 34 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 1: What's what's y'all's first impressions or quick impressions from the game. 35 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 1: It was awful. It was as bad as opener I 36 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 1: think I've seen. It actually took me back to nineteen 37 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 1: eighty nine, a one in fifteen team twenty eight to 38 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: nothing to the Saints offensive ineptitude. They didn't do anything 39 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 1: right that day. I think they ran for like twenty yards, 40 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 1: never came close to scoring. The quarterback got beat up, 41 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: and yeah, this was I expected it to be a 42 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:57,080 Speaker 1: little bit of a struggle, but not that bad. I 43 00:02:57,160 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 1: just think it didn't think it would be that bad. 44 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 1: My column that I'm going to send to you here 45 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 1: and when we finish said it looked like a team 46 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 1: that hadn't played football in three weeks. And that's exactly 47 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:14,079 Speaker 1: what it looked like. Maybe they needed a few preseason reps. 48 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 1: Well I don't know. I don't know how you handle that, 49 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 1: but it took them all the way to the fourth 50 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 1: quarter before offensively, they acted like they were knowing what 51 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 1: they were doing. And the worst part was is those 52 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:31,679 Speaker 1: first four possessions, you had two penalties and two sacks 53 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 1: out of those four possessions, and you were facing second 54 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: and seventeen, third and twenty six. And then finally when 55 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 1: you got to the fifth possession, when you had a 56 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 1: chance on third and seven, Dak on the run instead 57 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 1: of setting his feet, tries to throw off his back 58 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 1: foot and short hops Jarwin by what ten yards? Yeah, 59 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 1: clearly wide open. Yeah, And when you're struggling like that, 60 00:03:56,240 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 1: you just can't make a mistake like that, and you know, 61 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 1: and not to keep going on and on, but the 62 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 1: darnedest thing of the whole game, they only lost sixteen 63 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 1: to eight. It was sixteen to eight, had a chance, 64 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 1: had possession right. As bad as they played, Carolina wasn't 65 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:20,720 Speaker 1: great either offensively, Brian, but they were. But it's hard 66 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 1: to be as poor offensively as the Cowboys were, especially 67 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:27,719 Speaker 1: early in the game. Yeah, you know, and I want 68 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 1: to believe that the coach and staff had a really 69 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 1: good plan for how to handle Looke Keekley early in 70 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 1: that game, you know, or how to how to kind 71 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 1: of take care of him, and it seemed like though 72 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:38,839 Speaker 1: in the second half they were able to do some 73 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 1: things where they were able to get him blocked and 74 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:44,359 Speaker 1: didn't allow him to completely wreck what they were doing. 75 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:48,719 Speaker 1: The thing that you know, Mickey talked about the third 76 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 1: and seven and the short hot plays and all that 77 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 1: stuff like that, and you know that he's absolutely right 78 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:55,799 Speaker 1: about that. It looked just as bad on film this morning, 79 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 1: is that, as you saw yesterday, he could have helped 80 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:02,720 Speaker 1: Williams on the sack that he gave up. Yeah, you know, 81 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 1: Kwan short beat him clean early, but he had, He 82 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 1: had Jeff Sway curled up, you know, and he was 83 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 1: looking right at him for a chance to throw the ball. 84 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: I have no idea why he didn't try and hit 85 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 1: Jeff Swain to get the first down. You know, he 86 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 1: looked at him, and you know, he just didn't pull 87 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 1: the trigger. And there were several plays like that where 88 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 1: you know, people are saying, well, with the receivers open, 89 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 1: and that was something I was looking at last night. 90 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:30,720 Speaker 1: I was thinking, okay, am I gonna watch this tape 91 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 1: this morning and feel like that receivers weren't getting open. 92 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 1: And there were times where there were receivers open and 93 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 1: Prescott came off one one time where he had the 94 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 1: opportunity on third a third down play, you know late 95 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 1: in the game, where he could have hit Swain for 96 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 1: a touchdown. He could have hit a Gallop for a touchdown. 97 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:52,280 Speaker 1: Uh in the you know, on the same play he 98 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 1: didn't throw, he ran. He luckily he got the first down, 99 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 1: kept the drive going. He missed a Gallop on the 100 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 1: on the crossing route right there late in the game 101 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 1: that would have put them deep in Carolina territory. If 102 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 1: he throws the ball in front of Gallop right there, 103 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 1: Gallop is on his way, and you know, you're looking 104 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 1: at maybe a different situation right there. But I just 105 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 1: feel like though that there was there was too many 106 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 1: times in this game where Prescott made reads and didn't 107 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 1: read the correct thing or for some reason, and he's 108 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:22,720 Speaker 1: going to sit down and look at the tape and go, 109 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, why did I not throw that? Why 110 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 1: did I not see that? Why did I You know, 111 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 1: he's got Cole Beasley on a third down play too, 112 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:31,599 Speaker 1: where you know, it's a bunch of formation. It's the 113 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:34,040 Speaker 1: third and three play. I want to believe and if 114 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 1: I had the distance right, but he's still they got 115 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:39,839 Speaker 1: bunch of formation, and the design is to get Beasley inside, 116 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:42,599 Speaker 1: and Beasley's inside it, but for some reason, Prescott not 117 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 1: patient enough to allow him. You know, he looks at 118 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:48,839 Speaker 1: him and then he immediately takes his eyes and goes outside, 119 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 1: and you're going, wait a minute. Design of the play 120 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 1: is to get Cole Beasley inside. You had him, he 121 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: had the corners beat, you had their coverage on their heels. 122 00:06:58,200 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 1: You could have hit him. It would have been a 123 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:02,279 Speaker 1: first down. So there were a lot of plays in 124 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 1: this game where either Dak Prescott reads affected the way 125 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 1: that the play was executed, and the offensive coordinator will 126 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 1: get a lot of grief for bad play calling, but 127 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 1: there was a lot of poor execution, mainly by your quarterback, 128 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 1: that affected the way those plays were run, you know. 129 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 1: And this is and I got reminded the downside of 130 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 1: watching the game on television, which I hadn't done since 131 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty eight. Broke your streak, unfortunately. Well, but at 132 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 1: least I was working when I didn't cover those games. 133 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 1: But when I was at the Olympics in Seoul, South 134 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 1: Korea in eighty eight, the Summer Olympics, we watched the 135 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 1: games on TV, and I forgot how much you can't 136 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 1: see on television. It was frustrating, number one, that you 137 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 1: can't tell who's in the game and who isn't. And 138 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 1: then number two, you never know what's going on in 139 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 1: the secondary with the receivers right right right, And you know, 140 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 1: and I probably should apologize to the fans out there 141 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 1: that have to watch the game on TV when I 142 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 1: get impatient with them when they talk about, well, the 143 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 1: receivers did this. You can't see what the receivers are doing. Yeah, 144 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 1: it's impass it's tough, and I went back and you know, 145 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: watch the game again, and you just don't know, and 146 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 1: so you can't see what the quarterback should be seeing 147 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 1: or not seeing. And it's it's it's what a luxury 148 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 1: to be at the games to see those things from above. 149 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 1: No question two is great. Yeah, And it's one of 150 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:41,679 Speaker 1: the things why you know, after games and stuff, I 151 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 1: sit there and talk about Okay, this that and the other, 152 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:46,200 Speaker 1: a rite about it. Then then you get to the 153 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 1: opportunity and fortunately we get to sit down and watch 154 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 1: this and you do, like Mickey says, you do get 155 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 1: to see receivers run routes. You do get to see 156 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 1: tight ends run routes. You do get to see, oh 157 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 1: my gosh, Ezekiel, if he doesn't get tripped up in 158 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:00,959 Speaker 1: the flat, that's going to be a big play. It's 159 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 1: gonna be him and Luke Keikley one on one at 160 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 1: the sticks to see if they can get this first down. 161 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 1: You know, those are things you don't always see, you know. 162 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 1: You know, Dak Prescott, well, oh on that throw to 163 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 1: the short hop throw, well, immediately you think run run run. No, Well, 164 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 1: Luke Keikley standing right there bearing down on you. So 165 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 1: he had to make a decision like, okay, am I 166 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 1: gonna beat Luke Keikley to the sticks or I'm I 167 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 1: gonna try and make this throw with my feet, like 168 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 1: Mickey said, not being stable. You know, he comes back 169 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 1: and makes that same throw later in the game. It's 170 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:35,839 Speaker 1: just from a little bit less of a distance of him. Now, 171 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what though, Jarwin is is you know, 172 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:41,560 Speaker 1: and I'm not blaming Jarwin. He's a young kid, but 173 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 1: he's drifting away from Prescott instead of if he felt 174 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: like I'm so open, I need to stop and just 175 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 1: allowed Dak to get me the ball, that probably would 176 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:53,680 Speaker 1: have been the best thing to have happened. Maybe a 177 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:57,680 Speaker 1: veteran tied end or a veteran receiver makes that adjustment 178 00:09:57,760 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: like I'm so open, I don't need to keep drift 179 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:03,200 Speaker 1: up the field. I need to keep in position here 180 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 1: to allow my quarterback to get me the ball. If 181 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 1: he's probably four yards further up the field, they have 182 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 1: a chance for a completion there. But it didn't work out. 183 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:14,559 Speaker 1: There were a lot of plays during this game where 184 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 1: it was what if, Oh my gosh, they could have 185 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 1: why didn't they execute? Again, I am not defending Scott 186 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 1: Linahan here, I am defending. I'm not defending anybody, really, 187 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 1: I'm just saying though he asked these guys to make plays, 188 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 1: and there were several guys in this game that did 189 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 1: not make enough plays. That was the bottom line, because 190 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 1: that's the narrative coming out of this game. Of course, 191 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 1: it's fire the coaches and all that, and you're talking 192 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 1: to a guy who's the blowtorch of fire coaches. Okay, 193 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: I you know that's something that I live with, you know, 194 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:47,080 Speaker 1: But but I'm trying to also be fair. And when 195 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 1: you watch, if you know, quarterbacks always Jason Garrey says, 196 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 1: we try and put these players in position to make plays. 197 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 1: Somebody should have been blocking Luke Keikley, you know, whether 198 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 1: it was a puller, whether it was a down block, 199 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 1: whether it was a combo block. You don't allow Luke 200 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 1: Keikley just to run free all day. That is a 201 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 1: poor game plan if that's your game plan. But what 202 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 1: happened they did in the second half. They got bodies 203 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 1: on him. One of Zekiel It's best runs was, Okay, 204 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 1: they get a chip, they get a down block from 205 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 1: the tight end to seal the edge, and then they 206 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 1: get and then they get swayed inside on Keikley. Now 207 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 1: what happens you're running on the safety. That's how the 208 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 1: plays designed to go when it's executed well and blocked well. 209 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 1: But again the narrative is the offensive coordinator sucks. And 210 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 1: to Mickey's point, when you watch the TV copy, you 211 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 1: say the offensive coordinator sucks. But then when you get 212 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:44,680 Speaker 1: into watching the All twenty two, you're like, Prescott missed this. 213 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 1: Oh what was he looking at there? Oh, really good route? 214 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 1: Wait a minute, why didn't Why didn't Jeff Swayin blocked 215 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 1: down on that time to get Keikle. If he gets Chickley, 216 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 1: they got a shot. That's what happens to in these games. 217 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 1: I think. I think it also emerged that there was 218 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 1: no Travis Frederick out there. Yeah, but you know, I 219 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 1: didn't feel like Mickey when you go back, I'm saying 220 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 1: Looney played, yeah, poorly well, but I think the second 221 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 1: the second level blocks that weren't fair. That is fair. 222 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 1: That is where you you know, with with Frederick, we 223 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 1: always say this, he cuts the defense in half with 224 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:20,319 Speaker 1: his ability to play in the second level. He knows 225 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:24,080 Speaker 1: how to Okay, Travis has got he's got excuse me, 226 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 1: h Zach's goott has got here. I've got to go 227 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:29,559 Speaker 1: up where Looney's not. Really I'm fighting, I'm fighting. I'm fighting. 228 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:30,679 Speaker 1: Oh wait a minute, I got to get to the 229 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 1: second level and I can't quite get there. And then 230 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 1: now you have guys running free. You're concerned going into 231 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 1: this game. As we were wrapping up the week, Bryan's concern, 232 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 1: Mick was that Carolina front seven, not necessarily the defensive line, 233 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 1: but that whole front seven. Keikley flowing to the ball, 234 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 1: fast linebackers, he got Coan short and done, Terry Poe 235 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:53,199 Speaker 1: in there. Can they block up front for Zeke? And 236 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 1: Zeke finishes with fifteen kerries sixty nine yards. I think 237 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 1: he only had eighteen yards in the first half. They 238 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 1: just couldn't get anything going up the front, Zeke and 239 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 1: the talk coming out of the game, and Zeke said 240 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:07,839 Speaker 1: in the second half they didn't really run anything much differently, No, 241 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 1: they just executed better as you said they did. You 242 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 1: know that first half, Mick, I think you alluded to it. 243 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 1: Third and twenty six, third and twelve, third and ten, 244 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 1: third and eleven, third and seven there had said that 245 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 1: they're behind the change. Really the whole first half. So 246 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 1: what are you gonna call. You're the offensive coordinator, what 247 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 1: are you calling? That's tough, right, He called a screen 248 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 1: and if the if the running back would have kept 249 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 1: his balance, it might have been a first down. I mean, 250 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 1: they're trying to chip away at that. Again, I am 251 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 1: not defending Scott Lenahan. I think there's criticism for everybody here, 252 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:38,719 Speaker 1: you know, I really do. But but to put to 253 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 1: put it all, I think my saying is always its 254 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:44,560 Speaker 1: slow hanging fruit to say, Okay, it's the OC's fault. 255 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 1: There's no creativity here. You know they were they were 256 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 1: a Travis Frederick blocking the back from having a really 257 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 1: good design. Play on that screenplay, second play of the game. Smith, 258 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 1: Oh it's gonna be Tyron Smith. Excuse me, Tyren Smith. Yeah, 259 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 1: that Tyron Smith at this fighting like hell to get 260 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:05,559 Speaker 1: to the outside to get that block. Bradberry, the cornerback, 261 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:08,319 Speaker 1: ducks him and it makes it Tyren Smith's in a 262 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 1: rough spot because he's thinking, if I don't get this block, 263 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 1: is Tavon Austin gonna make this play? And this is 264 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 1: not having enough experience with Tavon Austin knowing that he's 265 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 1: a little bit of an elusive guy. You know, if 266 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 1: you have a guy out there you're kind of comfortable with, like, Okay, 267 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 1: I don't need to get this block. He's gonna make 268 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 1: the first guy miss. But he gets caught no man's land. 269 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 1: He says, I've got to get this block, where an 270 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 1: actual ouity he really didn't need to get the block. 271 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 1: Smith's gonna make the play. Those are the kinds of 272 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 1: things that happen when you do call the good play, 273 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 1: but you do have a negative play or a negative 274 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 1: result because of a penalty or a misread or an 275 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 1: indecision or a sack or a sack yeah, or a 276 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 1: minus run early and that is that one of the 277 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 1: rules they changed on the line of scrimmage that you 278 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 1: can't push a guy from behind. You can't push a guy. 279 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 1: I always thought you could do it within the tackle box. Yeah, 280 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 1: that was that was clipping and pushing and all that 281 00:14:57,400 --> 00:15:00,200 Speaker 1: was available there but on the outside. Because they had 282 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 1: it come back, they ran another screen that had the 283 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 1: same exact thing happened and they got another push. I 284 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 1: mean Zack Martin pushed as well, but they didn't call it. 285 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 1: So sometimes you're at the mercy of what happens. But 286 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 1: I'm not sitting here and making excuses for the offense 287 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 1: because they've got to be better. They've got to be 288 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 1: better running the football, they've got to be better executing blocks, 289 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 1: and the quarterback has to be better making decisions. He 290 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 1: didn't help Connor Williams on that sack. Connor Williams is beating. 291 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 1: We talked about that at nauseum, that Connor Williams is 292 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 1: going to struggle at certain points and times in this game. 293 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 1: And that was the one time that Kawan Short got 294 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 1: him and dacted at an opportunity to get rid of 295 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 1: the football, and for some reason he didn't do it, 296 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 1: you know. And on that play, it was very smart 297 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 1: on the Panthers because it looked like Looney was set 298 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 1: up to help Connor Williams, but Short went to the 299 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 1: outside where there was no help, right, and then he 300 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 1: got bent over. You know, you were talking about Keekley. 301 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 1: There was one play he was in the middle and 302 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 1: he ran across all the way to the end to 303 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 1: make the play and no one touched him. It was 304 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 1: just like me saying, Okay, I'm going to go over 305 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 1: there and run around and make a play. It's it's 306 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 1: you know, there's it's a bad If you want to 307 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 1: blame the coaches for that, then bad game plan. If 308 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 1: your game plan was not to block Looke Keekly, that's 309 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 1: a bad that's a bad game plan. But I want 310 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 1: to believe their game plan was to block Looke Keeklely. Yeah, 311 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 1: he's there, Sean Lee, He's gonna make plays all over 312 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 1: the field. The one the one thing I didn't like, 313 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 1: and it was almost being stubborn. I think that this 314 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 1: is what we do on offense, right when you run 315 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 1: two tight ends, when you run three tight ends, all 316 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 1: you were doing is inviting Carolina and put eight guys 317 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 1: in the box. And the one time they had three 318 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 1: tight ends, they had nine guys. They had nine guys 319 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 1: up there. Well, where do you think you're going? Yeah, 320 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 1: why this team is always ability to run out eleven 321 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: personnel And I guarantee the Giants game plan this week. 322 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 1: They need to sit down and look at the Giants 323 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:06,399 Speaker 1: and what Jacksonville tried to do to him. But you know, 324 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 1: you know they Garrett even mentioned it in the post game. 325 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:10,680 Speaker 1: He said, hey, we started to spread them out a 326 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 1: little bit. We had some success. Should have done that soon. 327 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 1: But that's that's that's where that's where, that's where you're 328 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 1: that's where it. Now you fall the coaches, how quick 329 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:21,440 Speaker 1: did you get to the adjustment? Should you have been 330 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 1: running the ball inside? And Connor Williams didn't play terrible. 331 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 1: He Connor Williams and Joe Looney did not play terrible. Kanto. 332 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:30,640 Speaker 1: I thought he was going to wreck this run game, 333 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:34,160 Speaker 1: but they had. It was really Luke Keikley. Luke Keikley. 334 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 1: The inability to stop Luke Keikley hurt them early, but 335 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 1: again once they started blocking him or at least getting 336 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 1: a hat on him. You know, they run a play. 337 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 1: They ran a play where um, they get the ball. 338 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 1: They get the ball the outside to Zeke and he's 339 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 1: but you know, Lyle Collins is able just to get enough, 340 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 1: just to get enough at Keikley. It was the the 341 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 1: option play for the touchdown, you know, on the I 342 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 1: thought it was all designed play option on the goal line. 343 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:04,399 Speaker 1: Dac does a nice job fake the read and you know, 344 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:07,159 Speaker 1: or fake the pitch, gets the defense to commit and 345 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:09,680 Speaker 1: then pitches it. You get a block on the outside 346 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 1: from Hearns. But but Lyle Collins was able to get 347 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:16,440 Speaker 1: just enough of Keikley to affect his ability to get 348 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:18,639 Speaker 1: all the way of the outside, like Mickey's talking about, 349 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 1: so Zeke outruns him. That's what you had to do. 350 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 1: You didn't have enough of those affect Luke Keikley affect 351 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 1: Luke Keikley, affect Luke Keikley. You allowed him early in 352 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:31,400 Speaker 1: that game to affect the way you ran the football 353 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 1: tackles that he was all over the field. He was 354 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:38,119 Speaker 1: man of the match. He trust the man of the match. 355 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:41,439 Speaker 1: And by the way, else struggled some too. Yeah, it 356 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 1: wasn't just those guys in Oh no, the holding call 357 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:46,919 Speaker 1: was a devastating play late in that game. Yeah that 358 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 1: led Oh yeah, well, n of the one that led 359 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 1: to the forty seven, not the one where not the 360 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 1: one where he tackled, not the one where he tackle 361 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 1: the guy where he the holding call on the final 362 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:58,399 Speaker 1: drive of the game was it was a and he 363 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 1: and it was a rodeo move. I mean, he he 364 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 1: was over extended. He had no choice but trying to 365 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:05,680 Speaker 1: pull the defender down. And you know the official is 366 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 1: standing right there. They're gonna call that every time that 367 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 1: is a He's like it was like bulldogging. You know, 368 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 1: you grabbed the stair around the head and you take 369 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 1: him to the ground. Which, by the way, I did 370 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 1: get the opportunity to watch the Giants game, and the 371 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 1: Jaguars did a really nice job. When Fournette was in 372 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 1: the game, he got hurt, sure. I think it was 373 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 1: sometime in the second quarter, and they were doing a 374 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 1: lot of misdirection. They were getting the ball on the outside, 375 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 1: pulling their offensive lineman and not trying to go head 376 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:38,880 Speaker 1: up with snacks and all the rest of them, and 377 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 1: they were having a lot of success running the football, 378 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:45,439 Speaker 1: and then for some reason when Fournette went out, it 379 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:48,879 Speaker 1: just kind of changed what yelled in there. It wasn't bad, 380 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:52,120 Speaker 1: but they had they had gotten the ball on the 381 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 1: edge on those guys the way you would want to 382 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 1: put those big heavyweights if you if you find a 383 00:19:57,359 --> 00:19:59,160 Speaker 1: way to get the ball to the edge, you could 384 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:03,119 Speaker 1: set some stuff up going inside. The adjustment is play wide, 385 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 1: play wide, play wide. Don't you get him. Continue to 386 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:08,119 Speaker 1: do that and then you have some opportunities up inside. 387 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 1: I may note of it that first drive out of 388 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:14,439 Speaker 1: the second half, third quarter, Zee gets two yards on 389 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 1: first down and then they go four wide. The next 390 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 1: two plays, Herns gets a twenty yard game right and 391 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 1: then and then Zeke he captures that edge. A couple 392 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 1: of plays later they spread them out it. Yeah, that 393 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 1: was an adjustment. I thought that started to work a 394 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 1: little bit. Yeah, they did. And the Herns play for 395 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 1: twenty yards was been critical of Prescott here, but nice 396 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:33,440 Speaker 1: read on his part, keeping his eyes down the field. 397 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 1: He's gonna flush to his right, He's gonna go back 398 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 1: to the inside. Hearns does a veteran move of getting 399 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 1: making sure that Luke Keickley goes past him. As Keickley 400 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 1: goes past, he curls up inside. That's what you have 401 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 1: to have. You need more of those types of plays. 402 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:50,880 Speaker 1: They didn't make enough of those big chunk plays that 403 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:53,120 Speaker 1: we that we've seen from them in the past. And 404 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:56,880 Speaker 1: you mentioned earlier, Rob, they've they've had a problem scoring here, 405 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 1: they've had but they've had more of a problem sustain 406 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:03,399 Speaker 1: aiming offense. That that was that was a big, big 407 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 1: problem for them yesterday, no question about it. Let's take 408 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 1: our first break, we come back. We'll keep breaking down 409 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:11,479 Speaker 1: the offensive struggles. We'll get into the defense a little bit. 410 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:14,920 Speaker 1: How they played debut of Brett Maher in the kicking game. 411 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 1: You knew that was going to happen, not what you wanted. 412 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:21,159 Speaker 1: Two nine seven is the number. 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By the way, night game. 467 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:00,879 Speaker 1: Get yours now before they sell out at Alice Cowboys 468 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:03,360 Speaker 1: dot com, and they'll be looking for a much better 469 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,360 Speaker 1: performance all the way around, especially offensively. Before we touched 470 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 1: on the defense. Just getting back to Dak Brian nineteen 471 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:13,159 Speaker 1: to twenty nine hundred and seventy yards, no picks, but 472 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:16,680 Speaker 1: no touchdowns. He got sacked six times, although a few 473 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:21,160 Speaker 1: of those were ay, clear catchup mode in the second half. Sure, 474 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 1: how do you feel about just where he's progressing at 475 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 1: this point or is it because that's the narrative, it's like, Okay, 476 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 1: where's he going? Is he regressing? Yeah? Obviously it's a 477 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 1: brand new receiving corps and they use all six of 478 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:36,919 Speaker 1: those guys. They did play all six, shuffling them in 479 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:40,439 Speaker 1: and out different spots. Do you think, number one, what 480 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 1: are your thoughts on Dak going forward? And also do 481 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:45,400 Speaker 1: you think at some point you think they're trying to 482 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:47,439 Speaker 1: pare down this receiving core a little bit? Well, I 483 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:49,399 Speaker 1: think they will pare it down. They'll figure out what 484 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 1: they want to do combination wise and see who works 485 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:54,639 Speaker 1: who doesn't work. Because Dad didn't want to use this 486 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,439 Speaker 1: as an excuse, but this is the first time I 487 00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,119 Speaker 1: think all six of those guys were available in the 488 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 1: same game, and he only two preseason games. Yeah, he's 489 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:03,920 Speaker 1: had a lot of practice time with most of those, 490 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:05,679 Speaker 1: Yet a lot of practice time of those guys, not 491 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:07,359 Speaker 1: a lot of game reps. So I don't know if 492 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:10,360 Speaker 1: that's an excuse, but it's something that Look, it's four 493 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 1: out of six guys or brand new to the team, 494 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,399 Speaker 1: so maybe it's gonna take a little time. No, they're 495 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,199 Speaker 1: gonna need to find They're gonna need to pair the 496 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 1: thing down to find out the best combinations they have 497 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,240 Speaker 1: for their guys, you know. But there were guys open. 498 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 1: There were some times, you know that they didn't get off. 499 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,159 Speaker 1: The guys did not get off some coverage. You know, 500 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,720 Speaker 1: Michael Gallup struggled to get off some coverage. We saw 501 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 1: what happened to him. He got interfered a couple of 502 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 1: different times, but that was a lot because he was 503 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 1: just getting getting taken care of it the line of scrimmage. 504 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 1: I mean, he just could not separate fast enough, you know, 505 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 1: to to do that. I thought Cole Beasley was outstanding 506 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 1: for him yesterday. But really, you know, we talked about 507 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,640 Speaker 1: Alan Hearns the one play that he made the veteran move, 508 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 1: but they didn't have near enough of those. They didn't have. 509 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 1: But also though on the quarterback he didn't do a 510 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:56,119 Speaker 1: very good job of finding those guys, and then you 511 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:59,439 Speaker 1: know whether he was feeling pressure, whether he was having 512 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 1: to move. You know, there was some plays that he 513 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:05,880 Speaker 1: clearly missed. I brought up the Gallop across the field 514 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 1: late in that game. He throws that ball out in 515 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,879 Speaker 1: front of gallop. We're talking about the Cowboys being camped 516 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 1: out inside the red zone right there, with a chance 517 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,639 Speaker 1: to go tie that football game. But he throws the 518 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 1: ball behind and unfortunately, though that's a mistake. Now, there 519 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 1: used to be a time where if Dak Prescott was 520 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:24,440 Speaker 1: nineteen of twenty nine for say two hundred and forty 521 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,200 Speaker 1: two yards and a touchdown, they were winning these football games. 522 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 1: Now those are always kind of the magic numbers for Dak. 523 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,480 Speaker 1: But he's nineteen of twenty nine for one hundred and seventy, 524 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 1: no touchdowns, no interceptions, and they lose. You know, that 525 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 1: just shows you, really what the key part is. They 526 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 1: need the other element of their offense, which is their 527 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 1: running game, was going to bring up. How many yards 528 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 1: did they run for in the first half? Zeke had 529 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 1: eighteen at the league, I think they ran for twenty. 530 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 1: It's just clear dating back to last season, especially that 531 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 1: final eight game stretch where he didn't have Zeke for six. Right, 532 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 1: if they're not running the ball dynamically and they're not 533 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 1: in those short yardage situation, second third round, and this 534 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 1: is a lot of quarterbacks in the league, it's not 535 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 1: good for Dak. He needs he needs to be in 536 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:09,840 Speaker 1: second and six, third and two, all that kind of 537 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 1: right stuff. Right, It's tough for him because then you're 538 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 1: talking about how he has to make plays down the field, 539 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 1: but he also has to read what's happening. And if 540 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 1: you want to say there was regression in that area, 541 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 1: I'll say it. I'll say there was. There was. I 542 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 1: thought that Dak Prescott in year three would see the 543 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 1: field better. It's one game. It is one game, and 544 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 1: you know, Carolina, he's he has to worry about his 545 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 1: left guard, he has to worry about his center, you know. 546 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 1: But there were some times where he just did not 547 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 1: pull the trigger on some throws. And whether that's he's 548 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 1: thinking like I can't make that throw or I just 549 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 1: I need to just fight for the next play, I 550 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:48,720 Speaker 1: don't know. But there were some guys that were open, 551 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 1: and the problem is these guys don't get open all 552 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:53,480 Speaker 1: the time and when they do get open, you better 553 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 1: take advantage of that. And that was the issue they had. 554 00:29:56,600 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 1: So did Thompson not get into the game to late 555 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 1: when I saw him actually catch some passages? No, No, 556 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 1: he was playing. They were they were playing him. Yeah, 557 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 1: they play from the jump. The guy, the guy that 558 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 1: kind of went out of the game was Austin. Austin 559 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 1: was the one they started early. They clearly had a 560 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 1: package or two for Austin, you know about you know, 561 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 1: every I always laugh when they throw four screens in 562 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 1: the game, and I didn't get the what they're run screens? 563 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 1: I didn't get that question, you know, I didn't get 564 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 1: that tweety in a screen to a tight end that 565 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 1: it was actually a wide delay, which was a great call, 566 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 1: and it was a well executed play. They're capable of 567 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 1: executing good offensive plays, they really are. They there, they are, 568 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 1: they are. But but this team, this the margin of 569 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 1: RAA for this team now with the wide receivers is 570 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 1: is pretty pretty slim, pretty slim, because you've got to 571 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,480 Speaker 1: take advantage of when they're open and when they're not, 572 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 1: and when they're not open, and you you have to 573 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 1: do something else. Those tight ends they've got to do 574 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 1: something else. There's nobody there. You know, you could talk 575 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 1: about Dez and you could talk about Witton as those 576 00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,560 Speaker 1: guys used to hang your hat on. So yeah, I 577 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 1: mean those guys were big part of what you did offensively. 578 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 1: But you know, the quarterback has got to be better, 579 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 1: the play caller has got to be better, and the 580 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 1: execution overall the offense has to be better. Now he 581 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 1: flipped this around on the the other side of the football, 582 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 1: felt like there were some good adjustments. You know, when 583 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:17,480 Speaker 1: you looked at the first half what they were doing 584 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 1: with Cam Newton. You know, I don't think they expected 585 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 1: Cam Newton to sit there and pull the ball down 586 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 1: as many times as he did on the on the 587 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 1: readoption stuff. You think that was straight and he had 588 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 1: fifty nine rushing yards in the first quarter. Yeah, and 589 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,719 Speaker 1: then the second half they figured out and a lot 590 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 1: of it was scheme problem. A lot of it was 591 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:35,960 Speaker 1: and Sean Lee stood up there and took the you know, 592 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 1: fell on the sword for hey, I've got to play better. 593 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 1: I've got to do and he's right. He missed a 594 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 1: couple times, he missed a cup miss. It was very 595 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 1: Unshawn Lee, you know, you're thinking about two really good 596 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 1: mike linebacker or two linebackers, I should say two really 597 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 1: good linebackers, you know. And I think I said in 598 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 1: the postgame show, this defense played well without Sean Lee 599 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,960 Speaker 1: and Jalen Smith both playing well, which we kind of 600 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 1: felt like, oh my gosh, this defense has got to 601 00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 1: have both these guys play well. But they really, they 602 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 1: really were able to hold up on the back end, 603 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 1: and they were able to hold up, you know, upfront 604 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 1: when it came to pass. What was the big worry, Well, 605 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 1: it was going to be this young secondary, right, they 606 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:13,200 Speaker 1: played the best. Yeah, secondary, they shut They shut that 607 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:19,480 Speaker 1: team down. Yeah, basically, uh and Cavan Frasier, I wasn't terrible. 608 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,960 Speaker 1: He was fine, right, broke up a pastor McCaffrey. The 609 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 1: problem was that they were not disciplined early in the 610 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 1: game when Cam was running the ball that there was 611 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 1: one play where DeMarcus Lawrence cut way inside and all 612 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:36,800 Speaker 1: Cam had to do is come around the corner. Same 613 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 1: thing with Wilson on the one played Damian Wilson shot 614 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 1: I think it was the touchdown, right, Yes, he shot 615 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:47,120 Speaker 1: in there, and it's like, just play your responsibility, you know, 616 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,800 Speaker 1: don't start freelancing on him. You gotta give credits the 617 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 1: North Turner there in terms of their offensive line is compromised, 618 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 1: so we might have to Cam's got to use his 619 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 1: legs a little bit more in this play he did. 620 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 1: It's like, okay, Rod Marinelli, you want this aggressive offense, 621 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 1: everybody getting up the field. Defense, Yeah, I mean defense. 622 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:10,160 Speaker 1: Everybody's being aggressive. Well, okay, now you better account from 623 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,760 Speaker 1: our quarterback because he's coming at you. That's something that 624 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:16,720 Speaker 1: you never felt like with under the Mike Shula administration 625 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:18,240 Speaker 1: when he was the OC. It was a lot of 626 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,960 Speaker 1: the readoption, read option, camera on camera, on camera on 627 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,080 Speaker 1: you know, you're getting a lot of that, and then 628 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 1: you kind of go back. You're thinking, well, Norve's not 629 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 1: gonna want him to run, Norves want him to throw 630 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 1: the ball beyond time and all that stuff like that. 631 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 1: But no, he really pulled it out. He reverted back 632 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,560 Speaker 1: to play to the strength of Cam Newton. Cowboys, like 633 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:38,640 Speaker 1: Mickey said, took the bait on a couple of those 634 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,960 Speaker 1: some outside runs pulling the ball. But you know, second half, 635 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,479 Speaker 1: I think Chris roh, Shard, Rod Marinelli, those guys did 636 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 1: a much better job of saying, hey, everybody just do 637 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 1: their damn assignments here and we'll be okay. The receivers 638 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 1: didn't really affect the way they played. Greg Olsen got 639 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 1: hurt in that game early, and that I think that 640 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:57,280 Speaker 1: helped the fact that he wasn't out there and they did. 641 00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:00,240 Speaker 1: They took advantage of a beat up offensive line. They've 642 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:03,720 Speaker 1: got some talent when guys like Ross and and and 643 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 1: those guys are making plays. And you know, I mean, 644 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:12,279 Speaker 1: it's not Taco making plays. That's that's only that's Randy. 645 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,239 Speaker 1: Randy Gregory wasn't even really in the game. He got 646 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 1: early early concussion and he was out. So now it 647 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:20,880 Speaker 1: was up to Taco and ross And and those guys 648 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,839 Speaker 1: to have to make some plays up front in order 649 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:25,920 Speaker 1: to kind of hold this group together. Funny part of 650 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:30,480 Speaker 1: the broadcast when he started running Cam Joe Buck turns 651 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:34,440 Speaker 1: to Troy and he goes, So did North carl your 652 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:39,759 Speaker 1: number that many times? But in the nineties. But the 653 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:45,080 Speaker 1: point was is that, like Brian said, he took advantage 654 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:48,239 Speaker 1: of what maybe Cam does best. And I don't think 655 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,800 Speaker 1: anybody was expecting that out of North. They wanted to 656 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 1: structured timing based off absolutely and in the interviews ahead 657 00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:59,799 Speaker 1: of time before the game, they did a uh they 658 00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:02,759 Speaker 1: did an interview with Cam Newton and he said that 659 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:06,760 Speaker 1: when Norv was named the offensive coordinator, he was scared. 660 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:10,760 Speaker 1: He was nervous because he thought Norv has this cookie 661 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,160 Speaker 1: cutter idea of what a quarterback is and he was 662 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,319 Speaker 1: going to do that to me. And then when he 663 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:18,839 Speaker 1: came in, he said, we started talking and Norv told me, well, 664 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:20,719 Speaker 1: if you don't like that, we'll throw it out. Yeah, 665 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:23,279 Speaker 1: We're going to take advantage of what you do best. Yeah, 666 00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:25,080 Speaker 1: and I thought that's what he did. Well, that's and 667 00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:26,960 Speaker 1: that's where that's where the fan out there is going 668 00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:29,399 Speaker 1: to go, well, why doesn't r OC do there? Why 669 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:32,400 Speaker 1: doesn't r you know, And to a point, they're absolutely 670 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:35,200 Speaker 1: right take advantage. When they started running a little bit 671 00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:38,759 Speaker 1: more of the read option, they started blocking Luke Keikley better, 672 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:40,919 Speaker 1: they handled the front a little bit better where they're 673 00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,279 Speaker 1: able to make those four or five yard runs. You know, 674 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:45,839 Speaker 1: things are a little bit better. But you know, there 675 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,600 Speaker 1: wasn't that a jay. It wasn't using it wasn't using 676 00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:52,359 Speaker 1: Dak press guy. They did finally two point conversion. Yeah. 677 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,440 Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, Troy called it. Oh, we 678 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:58,000 Speaker 1: all we were in the studio, we're away. Here comes yeah, quarterback, 679 00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:02,400 Speaker 1: everything walls goes, he goes, he goes, oh man, this 680 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:04,400 Speaker 1: is quarterback draw all the way and we're all like 681 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:06,719 Speaker 1: holding our breath because he's right. We knew, you know, 682 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,440 Speaker 1: it's just a matter of okay, Ken Dak beat somebody 683 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,239 Speaker 1: to get into the end zone, and he beat the 684 00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:16,240 Speaker 1: safety h Jones there to get in. Yeah. Did anybody, 685 00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:19,000 Speaker 1: I mean, did you read the line on DeMarcus Lawrence? 686 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:22,440 Speaker 1: It was pretty good, Mick, I don't know what off 687 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:25,000 Speaker 1: the time, everybody was worried about him being a one 688 00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:29,640 Speaker 1: year wonder. So seven tackles, one sack for seven yards, 689 00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:33,359 Speaker 1: three tackles for losses and a quarterback hit and one 690 00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:36,200 Speaker 1: forced fumble. He had the edge in that matchup, no question, 691 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,240 Speaker 1: and he capitalized on it. And and Brian wrote about 692 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:41,239 Speaker 1: this too. I thought Taco played well on the other side. 693 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:44,120 Speaker 1: I did. Yeah, Now he and I think we talked, 694 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,279 Speaker 1: you talked about earlier in the week. He's gonna play 695 00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,880 Speaker 1: more of those running downs in bass and then when 696 00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,319 Speaker 1: you get in those clear passing situations, Gregory, when he's 697 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,560 Speaker 1: st and on the field, he had doing that he 698 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,640 Speaker 1: had a great spin move to the inside. That's yeah. 699 00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:58,880 Speaker 1: If Cam didn't get rid of the ball right, it 700 00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:01,759 Speaker 1: was a sack. See and they and they Unfortunately the 701 00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:04,000 Speaker 1: thing that we might remember a little bit about Lawrence 702 00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:06,040 Speaker 1: was on third down, they get off the field, but 703 00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:09,040 Speaker 1: he has the goes low into and that's and that's 704 00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,400 Speaker 1: you know, and I get I get Walt h I 705 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:13,960 Speaker 1: get Walt Anderson calling that, you know, you want to 706 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,480 Speaker 1: protect these quarterbacks. You would hope that if they went 707 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:18,960 Speaker 1: low on on Dak that they could have gotten that 708 00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,840 Speaker 1: taken care of. But that was the first drive. Yeah, yeah, 709 00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:23,839 Speaker 1: but that's those are the kinds of things that you 710 00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:25,399 Speaker 1: you know, you have to you know, when you get 711 00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,560 Speaker 1: your when you get your defensive line up the field, 712 00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:30,440 Speaker 1: and you, like Mickey said, that's you know, those are 713 00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:32,960 Speaker 1: things are going to happen. But the thing that I 714 00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:36,560 Speaker 1: took away from this is that this defense played well 715 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,120 Speaker 1: enough to win the football game. And they played well 716 00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:42,040 Speaker 1: enough without Sean Lee having to play well and Jalen 717 00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:43,800 Speaker 1: Smith having to play well because I didn't think that 718 00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:46,920 Speaker 1: neither one of those guys was all that great. Yeah, 719 00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:48,960 Speaker 1: and and and and all along it was like, oh god, 720 00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:50,960 Speaker 1: they have these linebackers, they've got to play great for 721 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:52,360 Speaker 1: the to win. They've got to have they got to 722 00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:54,680 Speaker 1: have linebackers played. But the front did a great job 723 00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:56,799 Speaker 1: and the secondary did a great job too, holding up. 724 00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:58,719 Speaker 1: What do you think of vander Esh because he rotated in, 725 00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,320 Speaker 1: they would they put him in for Yes, occasionally, Yeah, 726 00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:03,600 Speaker 1: for somebody that has not had a lot of reps 727 00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,120 Speaker 1: in the summer in the summertime. And I'm a very 728 00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:08,880 Speaker 1: much a wait and see guy on Layton Vanderesh. But 729 00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,479 Speaker 1: Layton Vanderesh in that game didn't do anything that killed 730 00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:13,320 Speaker 1: you that you were like, oh my gosh, he's blown 731 00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:16,040 Speaker 1: a coverage here, Oh he missed a tackle, that kind 732 00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,440 Speaker 1: of thing. I didn't see that from Layton Vanderesh. I 733 00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:23,000 Speaker 1: thought he had one play where he he tried to 734 00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,160 Speaker 1: hit the hole and got blocked up black and it 735 00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:28,200 Speaker 1: was the wrong hole and Kaffrey went right up the middle. Yeah, 736 00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,839 Speaker 1: that's that. That's where that's the one time you know 737 00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:34,719 Speaker 1: when you watch him play that sometimes instincts get the 738 00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:36,960 Speaker 1: best to him. He's thinking, Okay, I can I can 739 00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,720 Speaker 1: do this and it ends up being the wrong play. 740 00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,319 Speaker 1: But overall, I yeah, I don't I didn't you know 741 00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:44,839 Speaker 1: he didn't play very much at all in training camp. 742 00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:46,640 Speaker 1: He didn't get you talking about somebody to get any 743 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,160 Speaker 1: games at all. I was surprised he played that. Yeah, 744 00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:51,840 Speaker 1: I was too, to be honest with you, but that 745 00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:56,239 Speaker 1: the defense, The defense, I think is the one thing 746 00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:58,640 Speaker 1: that you could kind of say, Okay, they played well 747 00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,360 Speaker 1: enough to win this football game. Offensively, you just didn't. 748 00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:05,000 Speaker 1: You give up sixteen points that ought to usually be enough. 749 00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:06,799 Speaker 1: And when they gave up ten points in the first 750 00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:10,560 Speaker 1: half and got down ten nothing, Carolina starts one drive 751 00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:12,799 Speaker 1: on the Dallas thirty five because of a thirty yard 752 00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,359 Speaker 1: punt return aloud. That was huge, and then they get 753 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,440 Speaker 1: a field goal at the end of a half starting 754 00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:19,000 Speaker 1: at their own thirty eight after I think it was 755 00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:22,480 Speaker 1: an Anthony Brown penalty, that fifteen yard penalty that got 756 00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:25,840 Speaker 1: him flip fuel position a little bit. So they played 757 00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,920 Speaker 1: well enough to win, not good enough all the way around, though. 758 00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:31,040 Speaker 1: Cowboys fall to oz and one to start the season. 759 00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:33,719 Speaker 1: Sixteen to eight was the final score. Let's go to 760 00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:36,120 Speaker 1: our final break and we come back. Let's keep breaking 761 00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:38,560 Speaker 1: it down. We haven't touched on the special teams really yet. 762 00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:42,319 Speaker 1: Kicking situation, we'll take your phone calls as well five 763 00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:45,360 Speaker 1: five to two nine seven next. Cowboys fans know that 764 00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:47,920 Speaker 1: the second best of anything simply won't cut it, and 765 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,520 Speaker 1: your skincare should be no different. 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All right, you guys, wanna let's hit some 818 00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,920 Speaker 1: phone calls. Why not see what Cowboys Nation feels about 819 00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:42,640 Speaker 1: last night's game, lost sixteen to eight to Carolina. I'll 820 00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:45,320 Speaker 1: say one thing real quick. Absolutely, we're doing well, folks, 821 00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:48,040 Speaker 1: really trust me. We're doing well, just go to it. 822 00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:51,520 Speaker 1: We'll be good. Mark and Tampa, we're doing well. What's 823 00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:56,040 Speaker 1: on your mind? Good morning, gentlemen, Long time playing, long 824 00:42:56,080 --> 00:43:00,279 Speaker 1: time listener day, back to the seventies of the fan. 825 00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:07,200 Speaker 1: What got Nick? Well? I definitely wanted to not pile 826 00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:10,040 Speaker 1: up on the offensive coordinator and the offense itself, but 827 00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:15,040 Speaker 1: I feel that looking at this offense and the conservative 828 00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:20,359 Speaker 1: nature that it continues to show us, I think a 829 00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:24,360 Speaker 1: lot of US fans don't realize how much Tony Romo 830 00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:28,040 Speaker 1: played as far as game planning and being a de 831 00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:33,360 Speaker 1: facto offensive coordinator. I think his offensive mind was genius, 832 00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:37,719 Speaker 1: and I think a lot of the success in the 833 00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:42,520 Speaker 1: past was predicated on things that he could see on 834 00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:45,480 Speaker 1: the field. Even when he wasn't planning, he was backing 835 00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:49,680 Speaker 1: up back. He was a godsend to dam And with 836 00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:55,080 Speaker 1: that said, looking at this particular game, I just expected 837 00:43:55,280 --> 00:44:01,520 Speaker 1: more creativity. When you start Deontay Thompson at wide receiver, Yeah, 838 00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:05,040 Speaker 1: I expected some you know, double moves something of that. 839 00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:08,399 Speaker 1: I wrote about that, yeah, and we just didn't see that. 840 00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:12,640 Speaker 1: So it's very disappointed not to see that. And you know, 841 00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:15,240 Speaker 1: that's that's my ZAM thing. I appreciate the therapy session. 842 00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:17,920 Speaker 1: Let me ask you this real quick. Yeah, so you 843 00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:20,680 Speaker 1: don't you do not like the quarterback at all? Am 844 00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:24,520 Speaker 1: I Right? As far as that, yeah, yeah, yeah, I 845 00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:26,480 Speaker 1: love that. Okay, Well you were talking about you were 846 00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:28,600 Speaker 1: singing the praise of Tony. Is that because you're saying 847 00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:32,279 Speaker 1: because as far as the OC, that's the offensive coord Okay, 848 00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:34,680 Speaker 1: I got you, Yeah, I got you. Tony was very 849 00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:38,200 Speaker 1: u integral to the offensive game plan. I think he 850 00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:42,000 Speaker 1: did more than we'll ever know. Okay, Okay, thanks Matt, No, 851 00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:44,640 Speaker 1: thank you. And he did and we do have to 852 00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:47,279 Speaker 1: emphasize how many years he had in this system or 853 00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:49,200 Speaker 1: a lot, yeah, a lot of years in this system. 854 00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:54,560 Speaker 1: Um Dack's in his third year at some point, at 855 00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:56,800 Speaker 1: some point he's gonna have to get it though, Yeah, 856 00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:58,880 Speaker 1: and take control of it, to take control of it 857 00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:00,400 Speaker 1: and move forward and be able to a little bit, 858 00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:03,520 Speaker 1: you know, consistingly as you said, consistently make some throws 859 00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:05,520 Speaker 1: down the field to kind of break things up. It 860 00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:07,560 Speaker 1: helps when you can run the football though, that helps 861 00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:11,720 Speaker 1: any What is being more creative? Mean? Because the second 862 00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:14,000 Speaker 1: play of the game, they threw a great little screen 863 00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:17,960 Speaker 1: right yeah to Austin. Yeah, I mean they tried the 864 00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:23,920 Speaker 1: jet sweep, and they tried throwing screens a lot of times. 865 00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:27,040 Speaker 1: Though if the quarterbacks on the run, it's not easy 866 00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:30,600 Speaker 1: and you can't throw a nine route. Yeah. I was 867 00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:32,520 Speaker 1: waiting for it, and I was waiting for it just 868 00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:35,080 Speaker 1: to throw it, to throw it right, to show it, 869 00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:37,239 Speaker 1: show it. Yeah, And I don't know that he ever 870 00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:39,880 Speaker 1: had time to throw it. He missed some throws. He 871 00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:42,160 Speaker 1: missed throws, I give I give you he missed some 872 00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:44,799 Speaker 1: throws and he didn't take some throws. That that was 873 00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:47,080 Speaker 1: the thing. It was funny. He threw a ball that 874 00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:50,080 Speaker 1: was really kind of strange. Beasley ran like a little 875 00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:51,960 Speaker 1: curl and side the ball went way to the right. 876 00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:54,359 Speaker 1: I mean, I think Troy made a comment. I'm like like, oh, 877 00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:56,760 Speaker 1: that's just awful, And you know, it looked awful the time, 878 00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:59,360 Speaker 1: but then at the end you watch it's like Beasley 879 00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:03,200 Speaker 1: kind of said, was I supposed to stay outside or 880 00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:05,520 Speaker 1: was I supposed to go? You know? And Dak's like 881 00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:09,320 Speaker 1: kind of pointing in Beasley's pointing, and you're wondering, do 882 00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:11,480 Speaker 1: you throw the ball there thinking that Beasley was going 883 00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:15,200 Speaker 1: to be there, or did Dak just flatness the read 884 00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:19,080 Speaker 1: so there's I trust me, I am. I am all 885 00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:21,600 Speaker 1: about what's going on with the offensive coordinator. I get 886 00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:24,040 Speaker 1: it out there, folks, I really really do. But there 887 00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:27,399 Speaker 1: there are times where he does call plays where they're 888 00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:31,600 Speaker 1: not executed well enough. And that's and that's on that's 889 00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:34,319 Speaker 1: on the front office, that's on the coaches, that's on 890 00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:38,200 Speaker 1: everybody to say, Okay, these guys. The responsibility for Dak 891 00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:40,680 Speaker 1: Prescott is to do this, and the responsibility for the 892 00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:43,400 Speaker 1: receiver is to do this, and the responsibility of the 893 00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:46,680 Speaker 1: blocker is to do this. There's a lot of responsibility 894 00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:49,120 Speaker 1: going on here, but that tends to be one or 895 00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:51,040 Speaker 1: two guys to get the finger pointed at him at 896 00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:52,840 Speaker 1: the end of the day. As our mail bad questions 897 00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:55,640 Speaker 1: show this morning, Yeah, we may do that later in 898 00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:57,840 Speaker 1: the day. What are you gonna say, Mick, No, I 899 00:46:57,920 --> 00:46:59,560 Speaker 1: was wondering what the mail pack questions? Oh, a lot 900 00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:01,879 Speaker 1: of Scotland, A hand on Jason Garrett stuff. Yeah, that's 901 00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:05,240 Speaker 1: that's dominating the mail bag. It's it's low hanging fruit, 902 00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:07,600 Speaker 1: it really is. And it's not need to figure out 903 00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:11,680 Speaker 1: need to figure out why Prescott does what he does. 904 00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:15,719 Speaker 1: Need to figure out why the blocking scheme is what 905 00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:18,680 Speaker 1: it is. You need to figure out why the routes 906 00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:21,759 Speaker 1: are what they are. You know, is there poor execution, 907 00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:25,439 Speaker 1: is their lack of understanding from the coaching staff on 908 00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:28,319 Speaker 1: to get it to is the message missing somewhere here? 909 00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:31,840 Speaker 1: But people will people. It's really easy because we don't 910 00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:34,799 Speaker 1: know the XS and nose. It's just never one thing, 911 00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:38,480 Speaker 1: you know, there's always a mixed bag when things go wrong, 912 00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:40,799 Speaker 1: and when they go as wrong as they did yesterday, 913 00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:43,360 Speaker 1: it's it's never one thing. And maybe a young quarterback 914 00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:48,400 Speaker 1: needs more than forty snaps in preseason. See this is, 915 00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:51,239 Speaker 1: this is and I love this argument. It's not an 916 00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:55,719 Speaker 1: argument to me, but he's not wrong. But just from 917 00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:59,920 Speaker 1: my standpoint of being the former personnel guy, I cannot 918 00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:02,960 Speaker 1: find a player if he gets hurt in the preseason. 919 00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:05,200 Speaker 1: I know. I'm sorry. I know. And I love you, Mickey, 920 00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:07,680 Speaker 1: I really do. And I love everybody that wants to 921 00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:11,640 Speaker 1: argue the point of and I shouldn't say argue, discuss 922 00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:14,880 Speaker 1: the point of why you play guys in preseason. I 923 00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:18,480 Speaker 1: get it. It's the most nerve wracking thing for Will 924 00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:21,359 Speaker 1: McClay or any of those personnel guys to sit there 925 00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:23,719 Speaker 1: and watch a game and No, all of a sudden, 926 00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:27,200 Speaker 1: you got a guy, you got Jordy Nelson laying on 927 00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:29,160 Speaker 1: the field, or you've got one of these guys. You've 928 00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:31,279 Speaker 1: got somebody that you have laying on the field that 929 00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:35,200 Speaker 1: you're not gonna have for the regular season. Quick to 930 00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:39,200 Speaker 1: your point, Travis Frederick's out in that last part of preseason, 931 00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:43,960 Speaker 1: he's still out. Zach's hurt, right, they're saving Tyran. I 932 00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:49,520 Speaker 1: understand I'm saying they should have played him. I'm just saying. 933 00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:54,160 Speaker 1: Even Tony Romo, late in his career, said in preseason, 934 00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:57,120 Speaker 1: I want to play an away game. I want to 935 00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:59,719 Speaker 1: make sure I remember all the different checks. Oh there's 936 00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:03,520 Speaker 1: got into no questions on the road where there's no yes. 937 00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:07,120 Speaker 1: And and we're talking a quarterback that's played two seasons. 938 00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:09,879 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and we're just expecting him to go out 939 00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:13,879 Speaker 1: and perform as if he's a salty veteran. But see, 940 00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:17,240 Speaker 1: that's where I think that we should It's hard, I know, Mickey, 941 00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:19,560 Speaker 1: but that shouldn't we expect that from him. I'm talking 942 00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:22,719 Speaker 1: about salty ven I'm not talking about the guy Fitzpatrick 943 00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:26,360 Speaker 1: that lit the Saints up yesterday. I'm talking about a 944 00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:29,680 Speaker 1: guide's play thirty three starts, thirty three starts. I mean, 945 00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:33,040 Speaker 1: if this was something and where it's Mahomes out there 946 00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:35,759 Speaker 1: and he's making mistakes and instead of throwing four touchdowns, 947 00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:39,799 Speaker 1: he throws four interceptions. I get it. But this is 948 00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:42,400 Speaker 1: a this is a guy that's played thirty thirty some 949 00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:46,279 Speaker 1: odd games. Just seemed to be those first several possessions 950 00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:48,279 Speaker 1: seem to be a lot of confusion. They took a 951 00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:51,239 Speaker 1: delay a game, right, Oh sure they did. Yeah, And 952 00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:53,600 Speaker 1: that's when that's your point about personnel, and that's the 953 00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:57,200 Speaker 1: that's you put on the coaches. Sideline management, game management. 954 00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:00,080 Speaker 1: You know, we haven't even gotten into it, and I 955 00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:02,280 Speaker 1: hope we do a little bit. Why did he punt? 956 00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:04,040 Speaker 1: Why did he punt the ball and fourth down with 957 00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:06,359 Speaker 1: three timeouts in a in a two minute warnings? Do 958 00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:08,200 Speaker 1: that right now? Let's holding the call. We got Cameron 959 00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:10,560 Speaker 1: holding real quick. Just we were debating that on the 960 00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:15,040 Speaker 1: sideline Bank of America Stadium. I thought my gut reaction was, 961 00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:18,240 Speaker 1: you got three timeouts, you got the two minute warning, 962 00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:22,480 Speaker 1: your defense is playing well, yeah, and if you give 963 00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:25,279 Speaker 1: them the ball back at midfield, essentially they just need 964 00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:27,879 Speaker 1: to hit one play, yeah, and they're in field goal range, 965 00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:30,920 Speaker 1: or they can run out the clock essentially, yeah, and 966 00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:33,840 Speaker 1: get or get me two scores on you at that point. 967 00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:36,200 Speaker 1: I think you and I were an agreement on that one. Mick, 968 00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:39,800 Speaker 1: what do you think I applauded it when it happened, 969 00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:43,120 Speaker 1: going Forth said, good, be aggressive. Yeah, you're halfway there. 970 00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:46,239 Speaker 1: This team is having trouble drive in the field. So 971 00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:49,160 Speaker 1: you're assuming if you stopped them and you got the 972 00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:52,480 Speaker 1: ball back, say the fifteen twenty yard line, that you 973 00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:54,960 Speaker 1: were going to drive all the way down field. When 974 00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:59,000 Speaker 1: they struggled offensively the entire game except for one drive. 975 00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:00,960 Speaker 1: It's a tough call to risk either way. See that's 976 00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:04,120 Speaker 1: where that's where I look at the defense and I say, 977 00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:06,600 Speaker 1: you know what, my guys are playing pretty damn good 978 00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:09,520 Speaker 1: right now. If I could get a stop here, I'm 979 00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:12,040 Speaker 1: gonna get the ball. I'm trying to prevent myself from 980 00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:15,000 Speaker 1: having to drive eighty yards. That's what I'm trying to prevent. 981 00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:17,960 Speaker 1: I'm trying to drive fifty yards. I'm not trying to 982 00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:21,120 Speaker 1: drive eighty. But I I'm thinking, well, it got Tavon 983 00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:23,319 Speaker 1: Austin as a returner. Maybe he could get me some 984 00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:26,399 Speaker 1: fuel position here. Maybe they have a shank. Heck, they 985 00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:28,840 Speaker 1: had a bad snap on a fuel goald or you know, 986 00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:31,680 Speaker 1: an extra point. You never know in that situation. But 987 00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:34,719 Speaker 1: I if my offense is struggling, I'm trying to give 988 00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:38,120 Speaker 1: them the shortest path to getting a score. Well, they 989 00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:42,000 Speaker 1: were halfway there, but am I right? Yeah, but you go, 990 00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:45,200 Speaker 1: but you gave the ball. You gave the ball to 991 00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:49,200 Speaker 1: to Carolina and then they were able to kind of 992 00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:52,760 Speaker 1: punch you into now their their punner made a stupid 993 00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:55,439 Speaker 1: That was stupid on their part for him to punt 994 00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:58,360 Speaker 1: the ball into the end zone. That was stupid. I 995 00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:00,959 Speaker 1: mean that almost that almost back gave him a shot 996 00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:06,440 Speaker 1: the ball back. Yeah, but but the field position, when 997 00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:09,319 Speaker 1: you're not driving the ball well enough, and the fact 998 00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:12,440 Speaker 1: that you're defense. If they're handing the ball to McCaffrey 999 00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:15,239 Speaker 1: he fumbled earlier in the game, who's to say you 1000 00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:17,440 Speaker 1: don't all of a sudden strip the ball there. I 1001 00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:20,440 Speaker 1: I just I know there's a lot of ifs, But 1002 00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:24,279 Speaker 1: if you're struggling on offense, give me the ball at 1003 00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:27,319 Speaker 1: potentially the fifty yard line and let me go that 1004 00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:31,160 Speaker 1: route instead of going eighty yards with minimal time. I 1005 00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:34,040 Speaker 1: just I don't I don't. I didn't like it. I don't, 1006 00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:37,120 Speaker 1: And you know, I think that I'm critical of him 1007 00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:39,960 Speaker 1: not knowing the condition of his team and he he 1008 00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:43,560 Speaker 1: should have realized that his defense was playing well enough. 1009 00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:46,120 Speaker 1: I think he did, but I think he also realized 1010 00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:49,720 Speaker 1: the offense wasn't driving the field. Yeah, but one time, 1011 00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:51,760 Speaker 1: how many possessions? No, that's what I'm saying. But Mickey, 1012 00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:55,080 Speaker 1: if they were halfway there, but if they punt the ball, 1013 00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:58,839 Speaker 1: you're if you're you're if you're halfway there, you know, 1014 00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:01,759 Speaker 1: I mean you're you. I don't know. I just you 1015 00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:04,600 Speaker 1: could flip a coin on that, which I didn't. I didn't. 1016 00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:09,200 Speaker 1: I just didn't like it because they usually burned timeouts 1017 00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:11,320 Speaker 1: and I'm kind of was proud of him for having 1018 00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:14,880 Speaker 1: all three timeouts in that situation plus a two minute warning. 1019 00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:17,680 Speaker 1: I was like thinking, Okay, he's got this thing set up. 1020 00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:20,800 Speaker 1: Now find a way to get the ball back. We 1021 00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:24,640 Speaker 1: would be remiss if we didn't mention the punter was 1022 00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:28,279 Speaker 1: awfully good. Yeah, Chris Jones, Yeah he was. And did 1023 00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:30,799 Speaker 1: he average like almost fifty yards a punt? Yeah? He 1024 00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:32,799 Speaker 1: was forty eight, And I would have trusted him to 1025 00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:35,879 Speaker 1: put the ball right onside the four yard line one 1026 00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:41,120 Speaker 1: more time. He penned him twice. Carolina's putter did it 1027 00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:42,759 Speaker 1: three times. He's one of the best putters in the 1028 00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:44,880 Speaker 1: league when it comes to you know, but most of 1029 00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:48,440 Speaker 1: his flip flaps were inn at the fifteen. Well, but 1030 00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:52,280 Speaker 1: if he's putting from the from his own fifty, maybe 1031 00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:54,960 Speaker 1: he can get it down inside the I'm just that's 1032 00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:57,560 Speaker 1: just me. And it wasn't a hindsight move because I 1033 00:53:57,600 --> 00:53:59,840 Speaker 1: was we were in there and I was screaming at 1034 00:53:59,880 --> 00:54:02,719 Speaker 1: the TV, don't don't go for this, don't go for this. 1035 00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:05,239 Speaker 1: See and I was doing the opposite. Okay, I was 1036 00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:08,439 Speaker 1: yelling to go for it. It's fair. You guys disagree often. 1037 00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:11,040 Speaker 1: I love us well so great. I just want him 1038 00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:14,840 Speaker 1: to be aggressive. Worried about the kicker already that was 1039 00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:17,720 Speaker 1: going to happen. You knew that that was one hundred 1040 00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:19,919 Speaker 1: dollars bet in Vegas. They was gonna miss it. Yeah, 1041 00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:22,879 Speaker 1: forty seven years absolutely, you knew just the whole thing 1042 00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:25,200 Speaker 1: that happened around when that whole thing went down, What 1043 00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:32,040 Speaker 1: do you think about that? My initial thought was they 1044 00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:35,239 Speaker 1: were trying to trade Mayor and they kept him on 1045 00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:37,080 Speaker 1: the roster and couldn't get it done, and they said, 1046 00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:39,920 Speaker 1: let's give a couple more days, Bailey, just go home sitting, 1047 00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:42,239 Speaker 1: and then we'll resign you. And then when I saw 1048 00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:44,160 Speaker 1: him work out for the Jets, I said, oh, so 1049 00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:50,640 Speaker 1: much for my theory. But Jason used a word in 1050 00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:55,600 Speaker 1: the press conference the first time. Confidence. Yes, yeah, he 1051 00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:59,400 Speaker 1: answered the questions. It was about confidence. And it wasn't 1052 00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:02,120 Speaker 1: their conf fidence in him. I think it was his 1053 00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:06,040 Speaker 1: confidence in himself, right, And I think they saw something 1054 00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:10,480 Speaker 1: that scared him and they said, let's give Mirror every 1055 00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:13,719 Speaker 1: chance he can to prove he can do this right, 1056 00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:17,279 Speaker 1: because he punted basically in three of the four I 1057 00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:20,839 Speaker 1: mean kicked three of the four preseason games right, right, 1058 00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:23,680 Speaker 1: And then in practice he was kind of taken over 1059 00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:26,680 Speaker 1: and it's like, whoa what. We tried to watch, but 1060 00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:29,480 Speaker 1: we didn't watch as well enough. I didn't. We didn't. 1061 00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:32,680 Speaker 1: I didn't chart it like I chart Bailey. And that's 1062 00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:35,799 Speaker 1: that's that's a lesson I've learned going forward. You know, 1063 00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:40,240 Speaker 1: don't don't assume anything. I don't think I don't think 1064 00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:44,920 Speaker 1: he out kicked Bailey in training camp. It might have 1065 00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:48,719 Speaker 1: been close to a tie. I just think there was 1066 00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:52,239 Speaker 1: something they saw in Dan Bailey that scared him, and 1067 00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:54,480 Speaker 1: it didn't have anything to do with money. I think 1068 00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:57,200 Speaker 1: that that whole thing about money, because I saw somebody 1069 00:55:57,280 --> 00:56:00,200 Speaker 1: nationally all go pay the guy that's your kick or 1070 00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:02,680 Speaker 1: he's doot a die, and it's like, Okay, that's fine 1071 00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:06,040 Speaker 1: for you to say that, but you weren't around watching 1072 00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:10,439 Speaker 1: the whole deal, all right. One last caller, Cameron in California, 1073 00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:13,440 Speaker 1: got to be kind of quick, what's on your mind? Hey, 1074 00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:16,360 Speaker 1: how you doing guys? Hey, welcome back Mick. But you know, 1075 00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:18,600 Speaker 1: you guys didn't even let us know when you're like 1076 00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:20,759 Speaker 1: on your way back again. But like when when were 1077 00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:23,040 Speaker 1: you on the chords, you know, or anything like that. 1078 00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:25,560 Speaker 1: You know, you didn't do it all done back? Well, 1079 00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:28,919 Speaker 1: welcome back, Thank You's got a couple of comments, uh Dak. 1080 00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:31,439 Speaker 1: You know, he seemed like he had the yips, like 1081 00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:35,000 Speaker 1: like he just wasn't quite you didn't see the field 1082 00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:36,840 Speaker 1: like he was a yeah, I mean it was obviously 1083 00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:39,520 Speaker 1: just hadn't played, so I wasn't. I'm not too worried 1084 00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:41,560 Speaker 1: about it. I mean, the cup's kind of half bull there. 1085 00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:46,560 Speaker 1: But the other thing is is Connor held up pretty well. Yeah, 1086 00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:50,400 Speaker 1: but on his technique, he got techniques by by short 1087 00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:54,080 Speaker 1: time he got to pull through there. Yeah, on the sack, 1088 00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:56,879 Speaker 1: but he held up pretty well. I wasn't too worried 1089 00:56:56,880 --> 00:57:00,040 Speaker 1: about that. But Lee, I had never missed league. I 1090 00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:02,880 Speaker 1: never seen Lee missed a tackle like Keith. I mean 1091 00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:05,319 Speaker 1: he got truck one time by a little guy, and 1092 00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:07,919 Speaker 1: then he just took the wrong angles a couple of times, 1093 00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:10,279 Speaker 1: which I never see Lee do. I mean, that's just 1094 00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:13,560 Speaker 1: I just feel like this was just well as anominally 1095 00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:15,560 Speaker 1: games and they were in the game the whole way, 1096 00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:17,680 Speaker 1: So I'm not worried about it. And I see the 1097 00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:20,360 Speaker 1: same thing gets the Giants next week. Ye, then I'll 1098 00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:23,200 Speaker 1: be a little concerned. So I felt good. You were 1099 00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:26,560 Speaker 1: right on the money there, Brian with uh with will 1100 00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:29,600 Speaker 1: be able to be run run up that defense and 1101 00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:33,880 Speaker 1: and and we could miss the time. So um, you 1102 00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:36,480 Speaker 1: guys are dead on right, great show. Thank you. I'll 1103 00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:38,840 Speaker 1: let you guys go. Thanks for the call. Lee Lee 1104 00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:46,440 Speaker 1: not playing enough football again there, I can't And Mackey 1105 00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:49,040 Speaker 1: he gets hurt walking ah, I know, I know, And 1106 00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:51,680 Speaker 1: you don't want him in there? No, I don't, and 1107 00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:56,600 Speaker 1: I don't understand. I totally get everybody's preseason argument, because 1108 00:57:57,040 --> 00:57:59,919 Speaker 1: I'm sure we watched a lot of teams yesterday play 1109 00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:03,080 Speaker 1: people that looked awful, just awful. And you know, this 1110 00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:07,600 Speaker 1: is one of one other thing about theF but remember 1111 00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:11,439 Speaker 1: we saw a lot of them pulling. We didn't see 1112 00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:13,640 Speaker 1: that as much and set the second half though, that's 1113 00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:16,200 Speaker 1: when we saw it. That's what I would have done, right. 1114 00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:20,160 Speaker 1: That was to protect Connor. It was protect Looney tight 1115 00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:25,160 Speaker 1: ends too. Yeah down, yeah, because they're good at it. Yeah, sudden, 1116 00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:28,200 Speaker 1: straight ahead. We'll see that this week. Get ready, Okay, 1117 00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:30,960 Speaker 1: we'll find out. And we got four more days to 1118 00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:33,520 Speaker 1: talk about it. Yeah, talking Cowboys. Got the Scott Snowpook 1119 00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:35,640 Speaker 1: coming up later today to check it out in Dallas. 1120 00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:38,600 Speaker 1: Mickey's column coming up, and Jason Garrett will speak later. 1121 00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:41,440 Speaker 1: The break is next. Thanks to Kent and William for producing. 1122 00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:43,560 Speaker 1: We'll talk to you guys small. 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