1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 2: Man, welcome back to Coast to Coast, George Nori with you, 3 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 2: Danveln Brinkley back with us. Daniel, of course, is known 4 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:16,440 Speaker 2: for his inspirational lectures on near death experiences, alternative healing practices, 5 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 2: and self awareness. He's an author of several books, an 6 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:22,760 Speaker 2: expert on the dying process as well. He's been struck 7 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 2: by lightning several times, survive heart failure and brain surgery, 8 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 2: and he has been at the bedside of more than 9 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 2: three hundred and forty plus people at the point of death. 10 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:36,159 Speaker 2: And he also works on the Twilight Brigade for our veterans. 11 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 2: Dani and my friend looking forward to seeing you live 12 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:40,560 Speaker 2: in April and Charlotte. 13 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:43,559 Speaker 3: I can't wait, George, It's going to be exciting. 14 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 2: You are great on stage. 15 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 3: By the way, my friend what totally completely inspired by you. 16 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:52,880 Speaker 2: Have you been you ready for Christmas? 17 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean everything is going as well as be expected. 18 00:00:57,960 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 3: You know, I have to deal with all that. It 19 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 3: aches and pains like everybody else, but everything that the 20 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 3: whole legend of Danion is the boxes of knowledge, you know, 21 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 3: the things that came from being struck by lightning in 22 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:16,319 Speaker 3: seventy five, and now it's in that last phase, that 23 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 3: last phase of what the boxes were talking about, and 24 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 3: it's pretty amazing to watching, George. 25 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 2: You know, tell us about that episode of getting hit 26 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 2: by lightning twice, by the way, and what was the 27 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 2: span in between it was? 28 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 3: It was I was struck by lightning, Uh, September seventeenth 29 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 3: and seven o five pm, nineteen seventy five. I was 30 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 3: struck by lightning again May of that same May thirteenth, sitting. 31 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 3: I was doing the exact same thing, George. I was 32 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 3: sitting on the edge of the bed at a different 33 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 3: house and different bedroom, with my hold in the phone 34 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 3: on my with my elbow on my knee, and the 35 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 3: lightning came down the phone line and went down my 36 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 3: spine and welded the nails of the heels of my 37 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 3: shoes to the nails in the floor and throws me 38 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:09,639 Speaker 3: in the air. Oh my God, slams it back down. 39 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 3: In the second one, I was doing the exact same thing, Landlines, 40 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:17,639 Speaker 3: I was doing the exact same thing. And I think 41 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 3: it was because, uh, this is the mystical point about it, George, 42 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 3: I think it was because I really didn't want to 43 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 3: change as much as what I had seen and what 44 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 3: I became aware of about going from being a person 45 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 3: or human being into realizing that you're a spiritual being 46 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 3: and all the things that would be required to take 47 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:42,079 Speaker 3: on in order to achieve those goals. And I don't 48 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:44,919 Speaker 3: think that. I just don't think I was ready because 49 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:47,080 Speaker 3: it took me two years to learn to walk and 50 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 3: feed myself, you know, in the first one it took 51 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:53,359 Speaker 3: two years, and right in the midst of that, right 52 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 3: in the midst of that, three years later it happens again. 53 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:00,799 Speaker 2: That is unbelievable. So you recommend people during the storm 54 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 2: staff of the phone, I guess, huh, Well, if it's. 55 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 3: A landline, you know, once you go through what I 56 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 3: went through, and you watch it and it's so organized, 57 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 3: you know, it has structure to it. George, It's a 58 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 3: plan of action that I'm a participant in. But I 59 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 3: can look at it from an action plan, and I 60 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 3: can look at it from the boxes of knowledge, which 61 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 3: is the whole story of where I became Danian because 62 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 3: of Raymond Moody and the course of when I was 63 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 3: writing say by the Light, it was because I had 64 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 3: watched so many people who were having this experience and 65 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 3: they had nowhere to turn. And I was lucky to 66 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 3: have Raymond George because Raymond was going to the medical 67 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 3: school of the hospital they brought me to and he 68 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 3: was going to medical school, and he was just writing 69 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 3: his original book, Life After Life, and so he went 70 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 3: to a meeting. I was learning the walk passing out 71 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 3: and my god, it is horrible and lose where I 72 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 3: was and fall and blackout. And I had Raymond. But 73 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 3: there were so many people who were having this experience 74 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 3: because of cardiopullm and their resuscitation that somebody had to 75 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 3: do something. And so I decided to write Saved by 76 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 3: the Light. Why because somebody had to give people a 77 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 3: way to look at this. And I think that I 78 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 3: describe it fairly well. To look at it, to see 79 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 3: what its values are, and how do you use it 80 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 3: and look at it in your life, because it's life, 81 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 3: it's life transforming. And so what I wrote down in 82 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 3: nineteen seventy seven was one of the events, is the 83 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 3: panoramic life of view had lifted out of my body 84 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 3: and all those standard mechanisms. But the thing that was 85 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:52,280 Speaker 3: important about all of that was I went before these 86 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:54,919 Speaker 3: twelve beings, and it was a thirteenth being to the 87 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 3: upper right side, and it would dictate which one of 88 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:02,799 Speaker 3: those beings would light up and become to resonate in multicolors, 89 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:05,919 Speaker 3: you know, And then I would only see that one, 90 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 3: and then I would see what Paul and I call 91 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 3: the boxes of knowledge, which were future events. Well, when 92 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:16,280 Speaker 3: I could write, which is probably two years, then I 93 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 3: wrote them down. And so when I went to publish say, 94 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 3: by the Lights, the whole reason for why I put 95 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 3: it in there when they didn't want to was I said, look, 96 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 3: I believe that there's a life after death, and I 97 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 3: think that this stuff that's happened to me and happened 98 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 3: to so many people, and it gives proof that there's 99 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 3: a different way than no matter what you've been taught 100 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 3: of how you're supposed to die, and all the context 101 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 3: that's placed upon that mentally, physically and mostly and spiritual, 102 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:48,600 Speaker 3: it never happens like that, okay, And so once once that, 103 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:50,840 Speaker 3: once that comes into play, I said this, So if 104 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 3: this stuff comes true, it means to me there's a 105 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 3: life after death. It was prophecy then, George, but I 106 00:05:56,320 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 3: didn't really know that. I didn't know it. But when 107 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:02,840 Speaker 3: I put it in the book and I said, look, 108 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 3: I said, if it comes to the means, there's another point, 109 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 3: that there's a life after death. When it's all come true. 110 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:10,599 Speaker 3: Anybody can buy that thirty year old book and read 111 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 3: it and see exactly where we were. And I said, 112 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:17,280 Speaker 3: if it doesn't come true, then I was hallucinating. And 113 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 3: I will owe everybody in the apology okay, because that's 114 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 3: where I was in being torn between writing the book 115 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:28,600 Speaker 3: and going public to take on that mantle or not. 116 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 2: Why did you wait almost thirty years plus to write 117 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:33,839 Speaker 2: the book? 118 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:39,160 Speaker 3: Because when I saw, when I saw the well, what 119 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 3: I absolutely saw was the devastation of the people who 120 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 3: were the beginners, the people who had held on to 121 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 3: this and just like Raymond, what they had gone through 122 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 3: when they were descending something and never had the experience themselves. 123 00:06:57,560 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 3: And I saw this, and when I kept I saw 124 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 3: it happened, then I had to do something. I had 125 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 3: to do something about it. The same way with that 126 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 3: piece and with Secrets, each of those books, where it's okay, 127 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 3: here's me looking at what happened, and here's what I think, 128 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 3: and I see about it, and here's the plan of 129 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 3: action that I'm going to lay out, and then became 130 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 3: Secrets of the Light, which was the caregiver book. When 131 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 3: you watch as much as like you said, I've been 132 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 3: with more than two thousand people going from this world 133 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 3: to the next, and three hundred and fifty eight taking 134 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 3: their last breath, and so I realized that the power 135 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 3: of the caregiver has to come into play because we're 136 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 3: seeing such loss and grief because of our age group 137 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 3: and then the veterans. It's the last of the World 138 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 3: War two or right after World War Two. There's Korea, 139 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 3: then there's Vietnam, and then there's maybe six thousand others. 140 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 3: But that's the point of it. So we look at 141 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 3: the transition, what's going to happen, and caregivers are going 142 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 3: to be important. So when I wrote Secrets of the Light, 143 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 3: it was, okay, here's things based of looking at this 144 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 3: for thirty five years and been at it for fifty years. 145 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 3: Then here's things that you can based on and draw 146 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 3: from as a reality because I've been through all of it. 147 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 2: Truly remarkable. Did they send you back or did you 148 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 2: have free will? 149 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 3: Well, I'd have to say, George that the first time 150 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 3: I didn't have sense enough to understand how the mechanisms operate. 151 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 3: R you know, but I've been through it. What I've 152 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 3: been through three well, the first one instruct by lightning, 153 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 3: was dead for twenty eight minutes. Open heart surgery was 154 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:49,079 Speaker 3: on a ventilator on life support. Brain surgery was on 155 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 3: life of support, open art surgery was on life support. 156 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 3: Then I had to be clinically resuscitated after the second 157 00:08:56,120 --> 00:09:00,120 Speaker 3: open heart surgery, and then five days after that I 158 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 3: went into cardiac arrest and had to be clinically resuscitated twice. 159 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 3: But I think that that was me making the final decision. 160 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 3: I mean, I knew that I knew I was really sick, 161 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 3: and I knew I was in trouble no matter what, 162 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 3: because of what the doctor said about what it was 163 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 3: like inside of me, the kind of scar tissue and 164 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:22,079 Speaker 3: damage done on the inside of me that no one 165 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 3: could ever be able to go back in there or 166 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 3: to fix anything, and the damage that it had done. 167 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:32,959 Speaker 3: So when I was facing that, I believe that if 168 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 3: it happened twice and I had to be resuscitated, it's 169 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 3: me really having to face the choices that you have 170 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 3: to make and the things that you have to deal 171 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 3: with in order to finish what I call the final 172 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:46,359 Speaker 3: vision if all that other stuff has come true, George, 173 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:48,680 Speaker 3: And you know, I wrote it in seventy seven. I 174 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 3: put it in the book in ninety three, is published 175 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 3: in ninety four, and it talks about now what's happening now, 176 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 3: and what's happening as we move into twenty twenty five, 177 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 3: and this is the end of the cycle. This is 178 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 3: the final parts of it. There's like one hundred and 179 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 3: seventeen things, roughly, but there's only five or six things 180 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 3: that's left, maybe seven mats. 181 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:15,200 Speaker 2: When Artel visited you in the hospital, what was the 182 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 2: episode that you were in the hospital. 183 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 3: For that was brain surgery? 184 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:22,960 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. 185 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 3: Well, when you take that much electricity, George, when you 186 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 3: take that much electricity and by then you've done it twice, 187 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 3: by then you've it's happened the same way twice. Then 188 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 3: I blew five subdual heemotomas, and they found out aneurysm, 189 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 3: or at least they said they told they did, and 190 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 3: so I was bleeding out and they didn't think I 191 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 3: was gonna make it because my brain was starting to swell. 192 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 3: And I've always I've been in cardiac I've been in uh, 193 00:10:55,920 --> 00:11:01,200 Speaker 3: what do you call it, I've been in cardiac riff 194 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:05,439 Speaker 3: for like forty years. A heart attack, well, I mean 195 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 3: I've been right there, right on the borderline of that 196 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 3: for like forty years. 197 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 2: Well, with Danian Brinkley, we're talking about as near death 198 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:18,080 Speaker 2: experiences as websites are linked up at Coast to coastam 199 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 2: dot com. But it's truly remarkable the fact that you've 200 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 2: been doing this for several years. 201 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 3: Coming back, Well, if you get a chance to talk 202 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 3: to you and the people on Coast to coast, it's 203 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 3: worth the journey back, George. I mean people have to 204 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:36,839 Speaker 3: have as we move into this final cycle in twenty 205 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:39,680 Speaker 3: twenty five is going to be the beginning of either 206 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 3: a change or a shift or a battle for to 207 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 3: hold on to certain situations. And if the boxes a 208 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:48,199 Speaker 3: knowledge of right, we have to worry about healthcare just 209 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 3: and I hope we'll cover and then we have to 210 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 3: also look at what's happening with what they're calling as 211 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 3: solar flares, and these are the final things that are 212 00:11:57,400 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 3: if all the rest of it happened, then we need 213 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 3: to pay attention to those things. 214 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:05,559 Speaker 2: I remember once years ago, you were telling me. This 215 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:09,560 Speaker 2: is after the fact that the Daniel Brinkley from before 216 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 2: I wouldn't have liked remember that. 217 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I can easily understand it. When you when 218 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:20,839 Speaker 3: you start out as a physical being, you find out 219 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:24,199 Speaker 3: you're a physical being, and then you realize that intimidation 220 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 3: and learning how to how to bully people was a 221 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 3: perfect way. And then you found sports, and then you 222 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:37,560 Speaker 3: found the Marine Corps, and then you found a whole 223 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 3: world that was going on in that particular part of 224 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:47,440 Speaker 3: American history after the war, after the Vietnam experience, and 225 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:50,680 Speaker 3: so I you know, that's how I looked at life. 226 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 3: It's like any other typical jarhead of Hurrah Rah you. 227 00:12:56,080 --> 00:13:01,599 Speaker 2: Know God, But you still love that Core. 228 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:03,319 Speaker 3: No, I mean the whole part. Look, I've been a 229 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 3: hospice volunteering the VA for forty years. Forty years. I've 230 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:12,439 Speaker 3: been doing this Why because I believe that one of 231 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 3: the most important places in life is when you come 232 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 3: into this world and when you leave it. Okay, because 233 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 3: the haunting thing in everybody's life, George, what it is 234 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 3: haunting in their life is helplessness and loneliness. Helpless is 235 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:30,679 Speaker 3: when you're coming and help us us, when you're leaving. 236 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 3: And then loneliness is a sense that comes when you 237 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 3: form an opinion about what you think someone else thinks 238 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 3: about you, and it sets up loneliness. In the spiritual world, 239 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 3: in that world that I have visited so many times, 240 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 3: there is no such thing as helplessness and loneliness. There 241 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:57,199 Speaker 3: is no such thing. So the great lie that exists 242 00:13:57,240 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 3: in this dimensional reality that we're in is that we 243 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 3: have to believe that we're helpless and lowly, and we 244 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 3: have to consciously do that. We have to consciously convince 245 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 3: ourselves that we can be helpless and lowly, because it's 246 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:12,320 Speaker 3: part of the rules of being here. 247 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 2: I've never had a guest that was generate so much 248 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 2: excitement and concern than you. With Tom dan Heiser, when 249 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 2: it gets to be close to Veterans Day in November 250 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 2: and he knows you haven't been scheduled yet to talk 251 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:33,239 Speaker 2: about the Twilight Brigade, what you do for our military 252 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 2: men and women, he goes crazy. He goes crazy, and 253 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 2: I know just by looking at his actions, he's thinking 254 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 2: about Daniel Brinkley in fact. 255 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 3: But you know what, George, we look at that was 256 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 3: we did it. We've made it twenty eight years. I 257 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 3: mean when you do that as a history of coast 258 00:14:57,520 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 3: to coast and who the night of people of the 259 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 3: night are and what we care about and what has 260 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 3: value to us to hold on to certain spiritual values. 261 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 3: You know, think about this for a moment, George. If 262 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 3: people who've had near death experience, it's roughly ninety five 263 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 3: to ninety seven percent, say, they lift it out of 264 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 3: their body and they watch themselves lying in the bed, 265 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 3: in the wreck car on the street, they watch themselves 266 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 3: lying there. That means that you're not that body if 267 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 3: that happens. And the near death experience, which is now 268 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 3: almost impossible to write off, the near death experience and 269 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 3: the basic mechanisms that Raymond wrote about that happened in 270 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 3: the course of it should change people's lives. Okay, it 271 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 3: should be the moment where you take a good solid 272 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 3: look at it and it would either change your life 273 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 3: or you want for those that it's happened to, like 274 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 3: what we were talking about, it changes your life. When 275 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 3: I realize that I am a spiritual being, no matter 276 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 3: what I think, that would make me an electhereal electrical being. Okay, 277 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 3: that's what it would make me. So how would you 278 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 3: reinforce that. Well, the Earth has what's called the Schumann 279 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 3: residence seven point eighty two herds. The atmosphere has an atmosphere, 280 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 3: a satosphere, and an ionosphere and two subspheres, so it's 281 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 3: electrical too. So we're walking in air and surrounded in 282 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 3: an atmosphere that's electrical, on an earth that has a 283 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 3: frequency that it operates off. How can we think we're 284 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 3: not electrical beings? You know? How can you think that 285 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 3: you're not electric wind? And then you take this argument, 286 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 3: you say, well, wait a minute, if you're a physical, 287 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 3: chemical being, well, the moment that energetic pattern, all that 288 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 3: spirit or that that divinity leaves the body and they 289 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 3: let that breath out, all the physical things are still there. 290 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 3: The body's there, the blood's there, the plasma is there, 291 00:16:57,720 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 3: some of the reactions are still going now, and it's 292 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 3: still going on. But the person that's not alive anymore, Well, 293 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:06,119 Speaker 3: that's the main focus of what you've had. This experience. 294 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 3: That part of you becomes a dominant part in everything 295 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 3: that you look at and how you plan it and 296 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:15,200 Speaker 3: think it. And it's not always as much fun as 297 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:18,439 Speaker 3: it should be, but it's worth it's worth the effort. 298 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:21,879 Speaker 3: To put forth and when Tommy, We've been at this 299 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 3: for so long, George, you know, we've been at so 300 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 3: long because I think we hold a certain spiritual ideal 301 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:31,160 Speaker 3: about what's the greatness about America and all the magical 302 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:33,679 Speaker 3: stuff that goes on in this country. And the people 303 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 3: who call in and do these shows, come on me, 304 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 3: it's exciting. 305 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 2: When you were on the other side, did you see 306 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 2: anything or feel anything that would lead you to believe 307 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 2: that there's a heaven and the hell? 308 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 3: Okay, well, I have asked a little question that the 309 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 3: concept of heaven has to be. I mean, I have 310 00:17:56,080 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 3: seen in these journeys, I've seen four realms. They were different, 311 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 3: and they were constructed different. I mean they had a 312 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:06,159 Speaker 3: lot of similarities in how I got to them, but 313 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 3: you know they were different. Okay, So, but I always 314 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 3: looked at it like this, If anybody was going to 315 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 3: go to Hell in nineteen September seventeenth at seven o 316 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 3: five pm, it would have been me. They wouldn't have 317 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 3: been anybody that deserve to go to Hell more than me. 318 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 3: I mean I would have it coming based on all 319 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 3: the stuff that you hear. It just didn't happen, and 320 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 3: none of the times that I have gone through this, 321 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 3: the most horrible thing was the panoramic life review, because 322 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 3: I had to see myself. I had to be myself 323 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 3: and faith myself. I had to see my whole life 324 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:46,399 Speaker 3: pass before me. I had to watch it from a 325 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 3: second person point of view. I had to become every 326 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:52,160 Speaker 3: person that I'd ever encountered and feel the direct results 327 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 3: of my interaction. 328 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:56,880 Speaker 1: Listen to more Coast to Coast AM every weeknight at 329 00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 1: one am Eastern, and go to Coast to Coast am 330 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 1: dot com for more