Speaker 1: My grandma and yo, grandma was hitting bad my grandma,
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Speaker 1: episode full of cultural goss. I think, you guys, this
Speaker 1: is Bow and Yang, one of your culture consultants. And
Speaker 1: this is Matt Rodgers. I'm the other cultural consultant. And
Speaker 1: let me tell you we are joined by someone who
Speaker 1: is I mean, truly a culturalista. Still the term around,
Speaker 1: but I mean, let me tell you, this is someone
Speaker 1: who's in the now. She lives it. She breathes that.
Speaker 1: She cooks it up for dinner. Yes, she cooks it up,
Speaker 1: and you eat it up. You eat it up, You
Speaker 1: eat what you're eating, what she's serving. Honey. Let me
Speaker 1: tell you right now, let me tell you a little
Speaker 1: bit about this lady. All right. She's on the Herald
Speaker 1: Team Sleuth. She's one of the new Stacked Team. I think, yes,
Speaker 1: absolutely great team. One of the hosts of one of
Speaker 1: my favorite shows, The Female Gaze seb and one of
Speaker 1: the hosts of one of my favorite podcasts, The Waiting Game.
Speaker 1: The Waiting Game with Jesse Gali, and her name is
Speaker 1: Janie stillar Hello, we love This is a huge moment
Speaker 1: for me and Janie because Janie and I historically we
Speaker 1: meant on a podcast. It was will ENNI um that
Speaker 1: we all hoped for it. Honestly, your pot by the way,
Speaker 1: I love it than we really are big fans of yours,
Speaker 1: and I want new episodes. Come on, people, Jake the
Speaker 1: myth Smith Shake the Myth. Let's live up to that name. Logical. Okay, yes,
Speaker 1: you gotta check this this podcast out, guys, and you're
Speaker 1: going to demand new episodes too. You've got you've got
Speaker 1: great comics and they're telling their life stories and it's
Speaker 1: really really very interesting and Janie asks very uh stimulating, construsive,
Speaker 1: incisive questions. Yes, I like it and I felt what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. What I say about the show is it
Speaker 1: really you get to hear them really talk, like Mike
Speaker 1: Helton tells this unbelievable story, like a rock bottom story,
Speaker 1: and it's so good. I mean, refer to the podcast.
Speaker 1: It's so good. I love and um yeah, actually I
Speaker 1: would have it no other way that you guys met
Speaker 1: out a podcast and we were talking about Tina Fe
Speaker 1: and RuPaul, both of your like icon icons and you
Speaker 1: know what. Janey has recently put out her Q two
Speaker 1: brand outlook, which okay, let's hear it, which included such
Speaker 1: elements such people figures as RuPaul Beyonce, which we'll get
Speaker 1: to in a minute, won't we jooty hops from utopia
Speaker 1: feminist icon of our time. I haven't seen it yet.
Speaker 1: It's transcendence, yes, in a great in a great way. Um.
Speaker 1: We also dw a classic feminist hero even we knew
Speaker 1: what we were processing as youth. Who else is on that?
Speaker 1: I mean, I always have nine Christina Aguilera, like there's
Speaker 1: always going to be that space. Absolutely, the Christina aguilar
Speaker 1: that left like this ha ha, yes, um. We have
Speaker 1: a lot of producers on this spectard. Honestly, I think
Speaker 1: all of our listeners no exactly what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: That's my essential self. I believe nine Christina aguilar A,
Speaker 1: fresh out of the gate, like being like really shady
Speaker 1: but like not knowing our true powers. That's my That's
Speaker 1: the perfect compliment in my essence, which is seven Britney
Speaker 1: Spears who always met Um. It's really cool, like she says,
Speaker 1: really cool, really cool. It's really cool, really cool. It's
Speaker 1: like a little bit dead inside, just like, yeah, it's
Speaker 1: it's already. You can tell it's it's going that. What's
Speaker 1: going on? So this is actually a great segue because
Speaker 1: we like to ask our guests, Um, what is the
Speaker 1: culture that you feel is shaped So as a as
Speaker 1: a young Jane, maybe even as a young Jane, it
Speaker 1: was Janie. It was Janie always, it was Jane. When
Speaker 1: I worked in advertising, I had my corporate moment because
Speaker 1: you're born naked and the rest is drag. That was
Speaker 1: me and drag serving you working girl. The culture? The
Speaker 1: culture that what? What was the culture that you can
Speaker 1: remember like as a child or as a teen or
Speaker 1: as a young teen that made you say, like, I'm
Speaker 1: interested in culture cultures for me? I mean it's always
Speaker 1: been TV for me, Like if I had to name
Speaker 1: my one love, uh, you know, it would be TV.
Speaker 1: And I think it's always been somewhat unscripted like talk
Speaker 1: shows and reality show. Okay, So I remember watching um
Speaker 1: Oprah when I was way too young to know what
Speaker 1: the downlow was, but getting all my information there too.
Speaker 1: She had a download episode and it was phenomenal. It
Speaker 1: really made me realize to trust nobody, you know, you
Speaker 1: know what's funny. When you just said Oprah had a
Speaker 1: download episode, I was like, that feels more Tyras brand
Speaker 1: Tira had. I think she could make it about her.
Speaker 1: She would be like, I'm going undercover on the town
Speaker 1: low and then I'm going to cry to people who
Speaker 1: are on the download about my experience and why am
Speaker 1: I crying to you, which is what she said when
Speaker 1: she wore a fat suit and then fat people flanking
Speaker 1: her and she cried, this is so incredibly hard, and
Speaker 1: take it off at the end and she's like, and
Speaker 1: now I'm back to me. Tyra is incredible. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: like remember when she won an Emmy for that show
Speaker 1: that she's like a daytime. I will never forget the
Speaker 1: episode where she pretended to have rabies and she she
Speaker 1: walks out on stage while everyone's applauding, and she's like, hey, guys,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm not feeling very good. I was running
Speaker 1: in my neighborhood and a dog bit me and it was,
Speaker 1: oh my god. Absolutely, and then she walks over to
Speaker 1: her guests, who are just for some means an artist,
Speaker 1: without introducing them. She just walks over. Well, she drinks
Speaker 1: the bottle of water first that has like I'm assuming
Speaker 1: phone like something that would phone some toxin some tops,
Speaker 1: because you know she was committing to it, and then
Speaker 1: she just pretended to go into a rabid like fucking
Speaker 1: shock and freaked out. And it was she barked at
Speaker 1: the camera and she started barking at her audience. And
Speaker 1: because you become a dog, yeah, I mean truly like
Speaker 1: she's also, people who aren't that smart think that pranks
Speaker 1: are jokes. They think that, like they love April fool. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're like, I'm going to scare and upsets and confuse
Speaker 1: someone instead of making them laugh. I do love, I
Speaker 1: will say, I do love. Just move and then she
Speaker 1: immediately turns around and loses all the weight. Let's stand
Speaker 1: on that platform for half a millisecond along with Jennifer
Speaker 1: of Hewett, another betrayer to our people, and just go
Speaker 1: right back down to the size zero. Thank you for
Speaker 1: that moment when you spoke up. I also just I mean,
Speaker 1: anyone that says the line, it's interesting because Mallory was
Speaker 1: wearing the scarf, but the scarf or whatever I was
Speaker 1: like this is and the fact that you knew exactly
Speaker 1: what she was saying, and honestly, it really was such
Speaker 1: a precursor to rue. There's no and therefore we must
Speaker 1: be thankful. You have to be thankful. And I also
Speaker 1: brought like I watched all the shows, like remember Project
Speaker 1: Runway came out and I was on board with that.
Speaker 1: In Real World, I was watching from the beginning. All
Speaker 1: the shows are just thank you so much, Reality TV.
Speaker 1: I mean, so you were a big Real World fan?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, huge? So what would you say is the
Speaker 1: best season of Real World? Okay, I gotta go with
Speaker 1: Hawaii because for me, like it really shook me and
Speaker 1: um excited me and showed me that there's more in
Speaker 1: the world. So I loved Hawaii. But I mean, actually,
Speaker 1: the only one that really sticks out for me is
Speaker 1: Las Vegas with Bran with Brand and Stephen, and I
Speaker 1: remember just thinking all the guys were like so hot.
Speaker 1: I remember I was right which one did one? Um,
Speaker 1: maybe I'm mixing up the seasons, but there was when
Speaker 1: they got in a relationship with with one of them,
Speaker 1: and the whole thing, the backstory that they weren't saying
Speaker 1: was he had done porn before a porn I think
Speaker 1: that was Stephen in Trachelle. Honestly, that would make a
Speaker 1: lot of sense to me, he has a perfect gay
Speaker 1: porn look. He's very attractive. I mean he is like
Speaker 1: he had like the frosted tips like six years too late,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like it's like that was
Speaker 1: very and they put that hot tip right in the
Speaker 1: middle of that apartment and they went for it. I
Speaker 1: mean the setups of the apartments, it's like it's like
Speaker 1: you can look over here, you can look over here,
Speaker 1: you can get really drunk here, you can. It's just
Speaker 1: like how drunk they get them. And also, I don't
Speaker 1: you don't still watch it? Right? I tried to watch
Speaker 1: this season. It's so bad. Where are they anywhere? Where
Speaker 1: cities are they? When I saw they dropped them in
Speaker 1: the desert and they had like fight their way to
Speaker 1: the house and they became survivor. Yes, but I will
Speaker 1: say quickly at Explode Real World Skeletons was really good.
Speaker 1: They had a house in Chicago and they would bring
Speaker 1: in people from these people's past who they didn't know
Speaker 1: we're coming, and it was just explosive fights and people's
Speaker 1: like long lost fathers came and it just really was
Speaker 1: And I was like, where did they sleep? They didn't
Speaker 1: have enough beds for that extra person. So it raised
Speaker 1: so many questions in my head. Did you watch the Challenge?
Speaker 1: I watched it and then I fell off because I
Speaker 1: don't know who these people are. Well, I mean like
Speaker 1: in the Heyday, did you watch the Okay? So that
Speaker 1: to me was like that hit exactly the perfect time
Speaker 1: that I think MTV was like hitting their demographic because
Speaker 1: I was literally just like sixteen seventeen years old, just
Speaker 1: like bored on the weekend watching that show and just
Speaker 1: being a young man. Will say that it was so
Speaker 1: that everyone was so hot. They stacked those casts with
Speaker 1: just the hottest people ever, and they were just so
Speaker 1: angry and fighting and yelling and screaming and like this
Speaker 1: is what it means to be an adult, which is crazy.
Speaker 1: And they were just so hot. It was the hottest, greous,
Speaker 1: most fucked up people, and you were like, this is
Speaker 1: the future. Yeah, that's what was the challenge. It's like
Speaker 1: the world rules real world, real world and road world
Speaker 1: rules people. And then they have different delineations liked be
Speaker 1: boys for girls or like new school vers old school,
Speaker 1: and now they have these people that at one point
Speaker 1: where just like voted on and so if you watch now,
Speaker 1: it's a bunch of randos. What is it called the Inferno? Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then it's like they fight in these challenges, but
Speaker 1: there's no backstory that I'm committed to. They've been on
Speaker 1: multiple so these are just people that are now challenged stars.
Speaker 1: I now feel like I see the same people on
Speaker 1: all these shows, Like remember Mike them Is, Yes, he
Speaker 1: the Coral, Johnny Bananas Choral? Yes, um, what's his name? Oh?
Speaker 1: The oh Man. I literally can only describe them as
Speaker 1: physical attributes. I literally thought of c T as a
Speaker 1: guy with the butt was like one of them. Theo
Speaker 1: is a comedian now and his specials on Netflix, and
Speaker 1: it's not appropriate. He's a prank or if you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, not fun. We we've already established how
Speaker 1: Jenny feels about pranks. Don't not like pranks, you guys,
Speaker 1: I didn't grow up with cables, so I never watched
Speaker 1: you didn't grow up with cable. Yes, I have a
Speaker 1: whole blind spot in my culture. Are there things that
Speaker 1: you caught up with? Yes? Absolutely, Like especially when Flavor
Speaker 1: of Love and I love New York and I mean
Speaker 1: score in the eight Day, like I was going to
Speaker 1: going on business trips with my f was tagging along
Speaker 1: with my dad on business trips and just staying in
Speaker 1: the hotel like in the summer, and they would just
Speaker 1: play as marathons on VH one, and I would just
Speaker 1: get caught up on the entire season in one sitting.
Speaker 1: We should say, there's a staging of that episode of
Speaker 1: Sins Mom, Terry, Oh my god, I mean born to
Speaker 1: play you play tell us exactly. So this is Thursday,
Speaker 1: April twenty eight to me, and it's a live staging
Speaker 1: of of UM A flavor of live episode where Pumpkins
Speaker 1: spits in New York Story. It's very silly. There's like
Speaker 1: a comedian and stuff, and I'm really excited for it.
Speaker 1: Who was playing New York UM? I don't even remember. Well,
Speaker 1: they have here's here's how they're doing it. They have
Speaker 1: which I think is very smart. They have two people
Speaker 1: playing this person, one person for your confessionals, one person
Speaker 1: for the actual Okay, that's great. I love a show
Speaker 1: that you both are involved in. Broad games. A live
Speaker 1: version of Sex and City, which I was thinking of
Speaker 1: when you said you didn't grow up with cable because
Speaker 1: you understand sex in the City and that's like you
Speaker 1: inherently understand the funniness and the silliness and the heart
Speaker 1: of it. We got DVDs and so I got caught
Speaker 1: up through just you know, I was I was lacking behind,
Speaker 1: but then I caught up on my culture. Did you
Speaker 1: catch up on sex in the City in high school,
Speaker 1: like like like early high school? Like my friends had
Speaker 1: the DVDs and we would just sleep over. I would
Speaker 1: sleep over at her place and then we would just
Speaker 1: watch all of it. Yeah. Um, but yes, did not
Speaker 1: grow up with culture on cable. But number I think
Speaker 1: culture it's on cable. Culture on cable, and I think
Speaker 1: I think you need it. And actually I think for
Speaker 1: our Merge giveaway, if we're gonna call, you're gonna call
Speaker 1: in and we're gonna give you cable call in and
Speaker 1: give and we'll buy We'll buy your cable plan for No,
Speaker 1: we didn't, but that's fine. Yeah, but so can I
Speaker 1: ask you? Were you a Survivor fan, because I feel
Speaker 1: like Survivor was like the first Yeah, I was totally
Speaker 1: on board. I wasn't in love with Elizabeth then Fuller.
Speaker 1: This must have been huge for you to watch her career. Unbelievable.
Speaker 1: I mean, she was America's sweetheart, right, So funny. Remember
Speaker 1: she was like a Puma shoe as she was a
Speaker 1: Puma shoe designer, that is correct. She went to school
Speaker 1: in Boston. We love college. So she was just so
Speaker 1: sweet and like strong, and we really liked her because
Speaker 1: she wasn't talking about politics exactly. She really was just
Speaker 1: like very earnest, like very did you watch it? Alright?
Speaker 1: She was. She ended up coming in fourth place, and
Speaker 1: she was the last person from her tribe, which I
Speaker 1: actually remember was the coucha tribe to make it to
Speaker 1: the end. And literally it was this thing of even
Speaker 1: the people that we had the alliance against or didn't
Speaker 1: really want to vote her off, they were like, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: you have to go because we have to make sure
Speaker 1: that we win, but God bless, we love you. And
Speaker 1: then she actually stayed in leisticon enough to like become
Speaker 1: what we now know is Elizabeth's has America's Demon. She's
Speaker 1: the worst. I mean, she's the worst I know, But
Speaker 1: I did, okay, I did like her on the view
Speaker 1: because she prerovided a somewhat complex contrarian opinion to the
Speaker 1: liberals on the panel. And then then they just throw
Speaker 1: on these idiots now and it's like what We talked
Speaker 1: about this last year the same which was like they
Speaker 1: just got rid of any sort of intelligent discourse on
Speaker 1: the show. But who is that? Who is that Republican
Speaker 1: that they brought that conservative that they brought on during
Speaker 1: the reb Great, she was great, but now she's on
Speaker 1: MSNBC every now and then, and I just wanted to
Speaker 1: stop talking. Well, I actually find her to be like
Speaker 1: a really really smart, reliable source, and I actually think
Speaker 1: she she's very clearly conservative, but I think she provides
Speaker 1: like helpful input and helpful analysis, and I just wish
Speaker 1: that they would have let that be more what she
Speaker 1: did on the view. But you could tell they kind
Speaker 1: of gave her these I guess you have to be
Speaker 1: able to talk about everything, I guess, But no, I
Speaker 1: think that's what I agree with what Janie saying, which
Speaker 1: is Elizabeth Hasselbeck was someone who was you didn't agree
Speaker 1: with her ever, but you she was so compelling. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she was compelling, very very good presence and a good
Speaker 1: anchor for that panel. She definitely is a star, that's
Speaker 1: for sure. I mean in terms of her personality, like
Speaker 1: she was since Survivor, like you loved her, and then
Speaker 1: when it when it came out that she like believed
Speaker 1: what she believed. I was disappointed, but like I got
Speaker 1: the sense most of the time when she was on
Speaker 1: the View, which by the way, I mean, I'm sure,
Speaker 1: like were you a huge fan of the View? So
Speaker 1: when it was the two election, that was the was
Speaker 1: the show that I got from my ellection coverage watched.
Speaker 1: I watched the View like I would come home from
Speaker 1: my classes because at NYU, I had like a schedule
Speaker 1: it was like eight am to five am, and I
Speaker 1: would run back to campus and flip on the View
Speaker 1: and like a Dunkin Donuts bagel, and I would listen
Speaker 1: to see what was up with the election that need
Speaker 1: And honestly, you had like Elizabeth Hasselbeck like repping John
Speaker 1: McCain and Sherry Shepard undecided. That's insane, insane. And then
Speaker 1: I remember the day after the election, after Oma was elected,
Speaker 1: she was like I got in the booth and I
Speaker 1: had to do it, and I had to turn to
Speaker 1: my son and say no limitations, and I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I Meanry definite. Sherry she claimed to be undecided all
Speaker 1: the way up and both she was undecided. Well, she
Speaker 1: also thought the world she didn't think the world was
Speaker 1: flat and like honestly honest mistake, Sherry, do you I
Speaker 1: don't know I would have to feed my children. Yes, unforgettable.
Speaker 1: I think I had to feed my children. That's unforgettable.
Speaker 1: That's classic television and not on cable. Not don't judge me,
Speaker 1: I'm not judging. Will say that when we were growing up,
Speaker 1: cable wasn't as important because those things that I got
Speaker 1: were not on cable. Oh I agree, I agree. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was actually contrary an opinion. I thought that everything
Speaker 1: was on cable a little bit. Well, like I was
Speaker 1: like like Nickelodeon and all that ship when I was little. See,
Speaker 1: I don't know when anyone brings up sucking like all that.
Speaker 1: All that I barely watched. I remember watching The Manager
Speaker 1: for the first time in a friend's house and me
Speaker 1: being like, who is that girl? She has my life?
Speaker 1: Like I want that life. I know she was great
Speaker 1: A lot I read a lot that reads thinks mat um,
Speaker 1: and then I waste of time. Wasted time truly did
Speaker 1: not enrich anything. But then I what was I gonna say? Oh,
Speaker 1: but I feel like my so what substituted what filled
Speaker 1: that hole for me was simple life. It was obsessed
Speaker 1: with Simple God. I love that wasn't on cable, but
Speaker 1: it was such good reality. I feel like in the
Speaker 1: editing now and it's insane. It's like every scene is
Speaker 1: like fifty sound effects. It's so over. That's funny. But
Speaker 1: at the time we were like yes, and like Newly
Speaker 1: Weeds was the same. There's crazy editing in these shows.
Speaker 1: I really liked Newly Webs And can I tell you
Speaker 1: which one I really liked was the Ashley Simpsons show.
Speaker 1: In fact, I was a full I saw her twice
Speaker 1: in concert. I like, oh, you liked her? Oh I
Speaker 1: liked her. I didn't know that about you. Oh. I
Speaker 1: was a big fan, like huge, Like I wrote a
Speaker 1: paper in high school after after she was on SNL
Speaker 1: about how we need because I had seen her in
Speaker 1: concert and she's sang live in concert like you're her
Speaker 1: Chris Procker. Alright, so this is this is a little bit.
Speaker 1: This is so funny. So recently recently I did and
Speaker 1: this is like eight months ago. I did the Rose
Speaker 1: in fifteen year old self. Have you guys both done
Speaker 1: all you must? It's such a fun shows And I
Speaker 1: wanted to get this picture that I took at the
Speaker 1: Ashley Simpson concert because Jessica Simpson was there and I
Speaker 1: got a picture with Joe Simpson. It's me and Joe Simpson,
Speaker 1: their gay father, their gay dad, and it's too good.
Speaker 1: Now I have a photo with me in a track
Speaker 1: jacket at the end, I spiked hair with highlights at
Speaker 1: the Ashley Simpson concert and Joe Simpson has his arm
Speaker 1: around me. How old are you? I was sixteen, fifteen sixteen.
Speaker 1: Because this is like height of like like rock pop.
Speaker 1: It was like all the biggest pop stars were like
Speaker 1: Kelly Clarkson, Um actually Simpson, Avril Levine. It was like
Speaker 1: when the Lindsay Lohan had a record in Charlotte was
Speaker 1: rock and the whole kind of thing that was when
Speaker 1: it wasn't about dance, it was about guitars. On before
Speaker 1: After You Loved a r This is this is like
Speaker 1: like months before everything happens traumatic concert. Let me tell
Speaker 1: you that it almost did. It almost did happen to concert.
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, who knows, but like, honestly, that
Speaker 1: picture would have been so good to show at the bed.
Speaker 1: My roast and my ex girlfriend from high school is
Speaker 1: the only one I could get the picture through because
Speaker 1: it was on someone's oh photo accounts, which let that
Speaker 1: take you back. I didn't even it was like the
Speaker 1: way you shared pictures because because Facebook wasn't a thing,
Speaker 1: and there was no and there was like nothing, and
Speaker 1: I was like and I literally felt like such an idiot.
Speaker 1: I was like, does anyone know the photo password? They
Speaker 1: were like no. I was like, all right, well, this
Speaker 1: Joe Simpson picture is gonna is just gonna live in
Speaker 1: the ether somewhere. But it was out there. Know what
Speaker 1: a shame it just existed in that period of years
Speaker 1: where it was like you didn't you didn't. There were
Speaker 1: no hard copy pictures. But also Facebook wasn't keeping tracking everything,
Speaker 1: so that one's just gone. But what a good pure
Speaker 1: picture you did draw it my memory, I'm sure it's
Speaker 1: enough memory, oh man. But knowing how gay he became, Yeah, well, Matt,
Speaker 1: you've joked about going Nashurally Simpson concerto. I didn't know
Speaker 1: this was actually your reality. I've written this like beaten discussions.
Speaker 1: Two tours she had like more than she had, like
Speaker 1: several tours. Wow, let me So this is I went
Speaker 1: to see Ashley Simpson post the SNL thing, which I
Speaker 1: was watching her. I was watching Live On with SNL. Yeah,
Speaker 1: in college on a Saturday, by the way, just so
Speaker 1: we're clear on what I was doing, Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: I was. I was fully at home on a Saturday
Speaker 1: to listening watching to it, and I was like, um,
Speaker 1: what just happened. It wasn't clear what had happened. Um,
Speaker 1: But I remember like the next day the Scandal came
Speaker 1: at and when she came out at the end of
Speaker 1: the show with Jude Law and was like, my band
Speaker 1: started playing the wrong song. I did adown, so we
Speaker 1: did a holddown and I was like, oh, she's so funny.
Speaker 1: And then like the next night everyone was like lip
Speaker 1: sync scandal and like that I can't be And then
Speaker 1: when remember when she did the Orange Bowl and the
Speaker 1: whole stadium boom that she got it rough and I
Speaker 1: did see her in concert not once but twice after that.
Speaker 1: Can someone like that live comfortably off residuals? Like is
Speaker 1: she okay? You think? Well, let me tell you. I
Speaker 1: saw her years later at a bar that I worked at. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is like in two thousand, I guess she doesn't
Speaker 1: thirteen or something like a couple of years ago. I
Speaker 1: worked at this bar in the Financial District and she
Speaker 1: stumbled in like so drunk, and she already been like
Speaker 1: a mom at this point, I had gone through her
Speaker 1: divorce with the guy from fall Out Boy Pete wentz
Speaker 1: and yeah, she didn't look good. And then she went
Speaker 1: in the bathroom for like an hour, which we can
Speaker 1: guess what might have happened. But she was like, I
Speaker 1: was like, I used to pay does that you in concert?
Speaker 1: I used to love you, and now you're watching her.
Speaker 1: And now I'm watching her like like like two o'clock
Speaker 1: in a bar in the Financial district, like fall over herself.
Speaker 1: I'm like not know how to get to the bathroom.
Speaker 1: It was really awful. Yeah, but I mean, I hope
Speaker 1: she's okay. The family is such a mess. Who knew
Speaker 1: that would become with that family, Jessica. The family was
Speaker 1: on a red carpet like within the past year, just
Speaker 1: totally hammered, and it was funny, but it was it
Speaker 1: was a little worried something. It was like, oh, maybe
Speaker 1: maybe things aren't going well. But there was a time
Speaker 1: when she remember when she was like j Lo level.
Speaker 1: It was a time when she was a mo gul
Speaker 1: And now I guess she still has like she was
Speaker 1: millions and millions of dollars. You know, my mom is
Speaker 1: a hairdresser, and she says that the Jessica Simpson hair
Speaker 1: extensions are the best in the biz. Well, there you go,
Speaker 1: Megan Kelly uses him, I said, I said, when all
Speaker 1: the Trump and Megan Kelly ship was going on, I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, the star of the show was not either
Speaker 1: than it was the Megan Kelly Jessica assumption hair extensions.
Speaker 1: Am I right, that's right. She looks good. She looked
Speaker 1: she looked good, and that's what's important. I get it.
Speaker 1: I was on I was on Megan Kelly's side, which
Speaker 1: like sure, but like I guess, like in that situation,
Speaker 1: like what good side was there to be on? But
Speaker 1: like Megan Kelly didn't do anything wrong. Sure, Well now
Speaker 1: they're they're they're good old pals. They are they the
Speaker 1: hat she's interviewing him very very soon, and it's supposed
Speaker 1: to be very cordial and loose or whatever. And I
Speaker 1: love it and everything. But you talked about the pop
Speaker 1: culture of the past, and you're like, oh, what a
Speaker 1: fun time we had. It was so fun, and now
Speaker 1: it's like it's like the culture that's like shaking the world.
Speaker 1: Right now is Beyonce Lemonade, And it's like, is it fun? No,
Speaker 1: it's our It's like it's I wouldn't describe it as fun.
Speaker 1: I would describe it as actually just at least scary. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're not really going back anytime soon. I feel. No,
Speaker 1: I don't think at some point, not right now. I
Speaker 1: think right now we're in a nightmare pop. I actually
Speaker 1: had to cover my eyes a few times during Lemonade
Speaker 1: that something was going We'll talk about that long scene
Speaker 1: where they're going down into the basement and I was like,
Speaker 1: what is this and like, I don't know, Like she'll
Speaker 1: just randomly cut to like a shot of like some
Speaker 1: chains hanging from then. I thought it was very scary.
Speaker 1: It was reminding me of the Ring. I was like,
Speaker 1: this is terrifying. But yeah, we'll get to Lemonade because
Speaker 1: this episode is about Lemonade. But I did we have
Speaker 1: to we must touch on drag Race. We'll talk about Okay,
Speaker 1: so Jennie is an episode behind, so I guess we're
Speaker 1: I guess we're going to break some news to you
Speaker 1: so you get a live reaction on air. It was
Speaker 1: it was a ninety minute long episode. Yeah, it was
Speaker 1: the challenge was the yearly balls that they have, so
Speaker 1: last season it wasn't technically a ball, but was the
Speaker 1: hell Katie Challenge. They to do two looks to a
Speaker 1: voice over that described their character, and this season before
Speaker 1: that it was the Glitter Ball and then it was
Speaker 1: the Sugar So anyway, so this season's was the book
Speaker 1: Ball in honor of guest judge David Sedaris. The Amydarris
Speaker 1: was the other guest judge, and to pay homage to her,
Speaker 1: they had to stage like a lip sync number two
Speaker 1: a Jerry Blank inspired well Amy Sadaris just sang a
Speaker 1: new original song about and they were all addressed as
Speaker 1: Jerry Blank and like did a dance number and it
Speaker 1: was it was, it was for us, it was And
Speaker 1: I said, you put up at that. I was like, hi,
Speaker 1: just so you know anyone that can't get on board
Speaker 1: with drag grace that they did a Strangers with a
Speaker 1: Candy Jenny Blank dance, So congratulations on missing out on
Speaker 1: the best television job. Yeah, I was. We were at
Speaker 1: a bar with Josh Sharpe and when they broke when
Speaker 1: when RuPaul on the show broke that to the girl,
Speaker 1: she was like, and you'll have to do a choreographed
Speaker 1: lipstick number two A Strangers at the Candy. They were
Speaker 1: like the whole mom step in the air and then
Speaker 1: Josh Sharp texted me today he goes, I will never
Speaker 1: experience the joy of it was cathartic, will be the
Speaker 1: Strangers with Candy challenge, right. But anyway, so how it
Speaker 1: went down was they to do the bookball and they
Speaker 1: had to do the first look, which was baby drag reel.
Speaker 1: In this, I had to tell a story. So like
Speaker 1: the first one, they kind of came at is like
Speaker 1: baby versions of themselves and it was like narrated as
Speaker 1: if it was a book. And then the second one was, um,
Speaker 1: that's my mom and they had to pay homage to
Speaker 1: their own mother's and then the third one was um
Speaker 1: autobiographical extra Yeah, it was like and then like you
Speaker 1: come out and he had he had to use all
Speaker 1: books to make her outfit. Kim she yea and it
Speaker 1: was all like RuPaul's books. Of course, like the whole time,
Speaker 1: like when they were interviewing the judges, they were like
Speaker 1: the author of this, David was feature. But anyway, Kim
Speaker 1: she one because she's just like such an artist. And
Speaker 1: there was an all her looks yea, and she was
Speaker 1: the only want to do that. All those queens like,
Speaker 1: that's the person I trust to make a dress one
Speaker 1: of those interesting looks like that. Naomi Smallest looked amazing
Speaker 1: on the runway, just turned it out. Her that's my
Speaker 1: mama look was amazing. And Bob had been giving the
Speaker 1: challenge to go ultra glam and I think during the
Speaker 1: construction of his dress it fell apart, and so he
Speaker 1: had to go out with a short dress, and so
Speaker 1: he was in the bottom two with Derek who tried
Speaker 1: to like dot peplum corset. Oh yeah, and then all
Speaker 1: the girls tell you as a woman, peplum is never
Speaker 1: a good choice. There you go. And then all the
Speaker 1: girls were like, you need to block your eyebrows, you
Speaker 1: need to change your eyebrows because that's just making you
Speaker 1: look like Brittany no matter what. And Derek was like, okay, fine,
Speaker 1: but I don't know how to do that right, And
Speaker 1: so they were trying to give her all these tips,
Speaker 1: but then she ended up looking in saying horrible, and
Speaker 1: then her her drag looks for the running weren't even
Speaker 1: didn't even make sense for her that for her baby
Speaker 1: drag we illness. She came out dressed as Ariel, like
Speaker 1: that's not a baby, and then it was so clear,
Speaker 1: and then the lip sync was between Bob and Derek
Speaker 1: and thank you. I know Derek was coasting, but then
Speaker 1: there was like an emotional moment at the end where
Speaker 1: Bob turns to Derek and was like, I respect this person.
Speaker 1: Bob has been such a star this whole time, Like
Speaker 1: really every single challenge proven what kind of star. And
Speaker 1: so you said before we got to the air that
Speaker 1: you kind of you're very disenchanted with the show because
Speaker 1: Thorgy is gone. Yeah, I love Thorgy. I just like
Speaker 1: when I saw Derek's Day and Thorgy leave, I was upset.
Speaker 1: I know that that was not a great episode for
Speaker 1: for Thorgy, and like I get it, I get it.
Speaker 1: You know. You know what, if Thorgie had stayed on
Speaker 1: for this challenge, it would have been very intense for
Speaker 1: her to do her her mother. Her mother passed away,
Speaker 1: so that would have been Honestly, I bet the producers
Speaker 1: were kind of banking on some of that because they
Speaker 1: always do that. They have like one part that's emotional
Speaker 1: in the episode, it's oh yeah, I mean, everyone got
Speaker 1: a sob story that there were several there were several
Speaker 1: instanes in the stories are always so incredible on that show.
Speaker 1: I mean, this one was exceptional. Naomi has a great moment, Bob.
Speaker 1: Bob has a great moment, which never see that. I
Speaker 1: can't wait to watch it. It's been a great season.
Speaker 1: I don't mean to do so. I just when it
Speaker 1: was up, and then I've been I have to watch
Speaker 1: them online. And then it was up to like, you know,
Speaker 1: two am, and I'm like, well, I'll wait out. But
Speaker 1: great episode and the top four for people of color wonderful,
Speaker 1: all really different, all very different. Yeah, that's so. I
Speaker 1: think it's a true toss up. Like I obviously have
Speaker 1: my allegiances to Bob, but what I was saying today
Speaker 1: was I would be kind of thrilled to see him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I love them all. They're all great. I think Kim
Speaker 1: is like so set. I think Kim is like set
Speaker 1: for life, and I really think Bob is set for life.
Speaker 1: I think cheech winning would like change her whole life,
Speaker 1: and I therefore I might be pulling for her just
Speaker 1: because I know that Bob and camer are fine. It's
Speaker 1: like a true earned underdog narrative where it's like, no, like,
Speaker 1: you have grown so much, you deserved this. You you,
Speaker 1: you've exceeded everyone's expectations of you, like you deserved this.
Speaker 1: Well anyway, speaking of us deserving, Oh my god, let
Speaker 1: me tell you, um, where were you when I was
Speaker 1: at a show at the Annoyance Theater and then immediately
Speaker 1: when it got out, I ran to Vanessa's dumplings, got
Speaker 1: a to go order, took an uber home. He did
Speaker 1: not stay to eat the dump did not say. I
Speaker 1: pulled out my end. Reception at Vanessa's was not good,
Speaker 1: and I kept trying to download my HBO now app,
Speaker 1: kept trying to log in mobile using your data on
Speaker 1: mobile use? Oh my god, what sacrifices. I made sacrifices.
Speaker 1: So then i'm When I got in the car, I
Speaker 1: finally loaded it up, and I watched about half of
Speaker 1: it in the car, not half of it, like twenty
Speaker 1: minutes of it in the car, got out, ran up
Speaker 1: to my apartment. My roommate was using the TV. I said, Mike,
Speaker 1: I have to watch this. It's really important that I
Speaker 1: watched this, and he understood, he obliged, and then I
Speaker 1: watched the whole thing. He watched parts of it with
Speaker 1: me and he left and then he left to go
Speaker 1: to his girlfriend's house. But I was and I filled
Speaker 1: him and I was like, well, so far the narrative
Speaker 1: is that she's been you know, jay Z has cheated
Speaker 1: on her, and he was like wow, And so then
Speaker 1: we watched and then right at the point where she's
Speaker 1: sort of starting to forgive him was when my roommate
Speaker 1: was like, m hmmm, it kind of takes the bite
Speaker 1: out of the message of of well, fuck you for
Speaker 1: cheating on me if you're going back to him, and
Speaker 1: I was like no, I like, Mike, don't don't say
Speaker 1: that yet, Like, let's just like, let me just finish this.
Speaker 1: And then by the end of it, I had so
Speaker 1: many conflicting emotions. That was where I was, what about you? Well,
Speaker 1: funnily enough, I was UM at a Tanya Harding Nancy
Speaker 1: Carragin museum dedicated to the Olsen twins at this point,
Speaker 1: doing candle lighting ceremony channeling UM show them claimed to
Speaker 1: bring back her past lives. So everyone was doing culture. Wait,
Speaker 1: the guy who runs that, Matt Harkins. Matt Harkins his
Speaker 1: like because her sister in law works in my office
Speaker 1: and she's very sweet, but she will not stop talking
Speaker 1: about the herding. So if you're listening to the spot
Speaker 1: in the next week and a half, it's in Brooklyn.
Speaker 1: It's phenomenal and it's now just for yes, so that
Speaker 1: stuff still exists, but it was in their hallway and
Speaker 1: their apartment and so now this they've rented out a
Speaker 1: really crappy pediatric medical center. Makes it so funny because
Speaker 1: you go in and it's like a museum with gorgeous art.
Speaker 1: This woman, I think her name is Laura Collins. She
Speaker 1: paints the Olsen Twins Lisa vander Pump like these stars
Speaker 1: covering their faces and they're gorgeous paintings and they go
Speaker 1: for like nine dred bucks and people are buying them
Speaker 1: like they're actually running an art gallery right now, and
Speaker 1: there's installations and they're the funniest. So they go through
Speaker 1: and they show you and they're such charismatic, wonderful people.
Speaker 1: So it's a great experience. Um and they're not doing
Speaker 1: it for money, like they're just taking dollar donations if
Speaker 1: you have it, but it's all about just wine to
Speaker 1: make it. It's really fun. Anyway, So I was there,
Speaker 1: they had me do like a candle lighting ceremony to
Speaker 1: like rid the place of haters and toxins and so forth.
Speaker 1: And we watched Sholem mcclaimed videos in the dark and
Speaker 1: you were I was doing art was just like the
Speaker 1: three of that, Like there was like no one there.
Speaker 1: So then when I knew Lemonade was coming, I was like,
Speaker 1: I have to go home, Like I'm here and I'm
Speaker 1: like in the moment, So what I do. I went
Speaker 1: home and I found out that my roommate was having
Speaker 1: people over. It was very loud, that was drinking, and
Speaker 1: so I was trying to watch Lemonade and it was
Speaker 1: just like not right. And then when they left, I
Speaker 1: sat down and I watched it, and um, I feel
Speaker 1: like I was a little bit shaken. And I was
Speaker 1: also the text had already come in with like this stuff,
Speaker 1: so it was I was already my perceptions were shaped
Speaker 1: before You're you're You're You're sad about that a little bit.
Speaker 1: I kind of think. I love the way that it
Speaker 1: felt like a tune in experience, which we don't have
Speaker 1: that much anymore, and like all of our friends were
Speaker 1: going to be watching at the same time and talking
Speaker 1: about it and we were gonna share it. So I
Speaker 1: was like a little sad that I hadn't delay and
Speaker 1: a little sad that people experienced before me and like
Speaker 1: already kind of like telling me I feel a little bit.
Speaker 1: Not not anyone's fault, but it was my fault because
Speaker 1: I had planned the I mean, I had to do
Speaker 1: the candle. There's no true there's no true appointment television anymore.
Speaker 1: It's true. But anyway, well, I literally cleared the night.
Speaker 1: I was like, we're going to do this because I
Speaker 1: just remembered what Beyonce the album was to me, and
Speaker 1: I'm like the fact that this could potentially be happening again,
Speaker 1: as like this could be like the music that satiates
Speaker 1: me for like like let's do it and let me
Speaker 1: tell you. I within within fifteen seconds, I knew this
Speaker 1: is this was good. That like amazing, Um first verse
Speaker 1: of Pray You Catch Me, which like goes on so
Speaker 1: long and like doesn't necessarily have like a repetitive like pattern.
Speaker 1: I was like, this is amazing. Henry. I was like
Speaker 1: I turned to him, I was like, is this amazing.
Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, this is amazing, and like every song
Speaker 1: was so good and when it became clear that it
Speaker 1: was about that. I mean, I thought she surprised us
Speaker 1: so many times, but this was culture a little bit
Speaker 1: if we want to wait to get into it, but
Speaker 1: I want to just like, there are the truthers who
Speaker 1: believe that this is all pr that he didn't even
Speaker 1: maybe he didn't even cheat, or that this was all
Speaker 1: a constructed story, and that he's the proof being one
Speaker 1: that he's making money off title, so this whole thing
Speaker 1: is about him and how bad he is, and then
Speaker 1: you go download the album on his service and he
Speaker 1: makes money. And then the other thing being that, like
Speaker 1: it just was so perfectly crafted that and then she
Speaker 1: forgives him in the like, is that all constructed? I
Speaker 1: think that there's a lot of assumptions about the timeline
Speaker 1: of of when she went through this. I think it's
Speaker 1: possible that she could have gone through this years ago,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. She might not have known
Speaker 1: how to talk about something like this until much later.
Speaker 1: We don't know if he cheated on her in two
Speaker 1: thousand six or two fourteen. We don't know if it's
Speaker 1: related to the Solange punching incidentally, right, and like who
Speaker 1: knows anything. We don't know, But the thing is like
Speaker 1: in regards to whether or not she actually went through
Speaker 1: it or whether or not, it's it's her actual experience.
Speaker 1: Here's my perspective on it. We're like making that important?
Speaker 1: Why is that important? The art that she made or
Speaker 1: whoever was a part of making it, it's incredible, And
Speaker 1: like they we didn't need to have used to justify,
Speaker 1: Like we didn't need to know what Janice Joplin went
Speaker 1: through to to get what I mean, Like, I just
Speaker 1: it's this thing now where because someone's a celebrity, which
Speaker 1: if you're going to put out music, movies, beyond television, whatever,
Speaker 1: you're going to be a celebrity. It's like, because that's true,
Speaker 1: we have to like this has to be fact. Yeah,
Speaker 1: why does there have to be a purity test? Or
Speaker 1: like why does it have to like there's authenticity is
Speaker 1: such as stupid irrelevant concept when it comes to something
Speaker 1: like this, Like it's I I think, I mean, if
Speaker 1: we're talking about it, whether or not it's autobiographical, I
Speaker 1: think it's still so good and it's still so true
Speaker 1: to I don't know, like that that journey of like
Speaker 1: forgiveness or whatever. And some people say that it's equally
Speaker 1: about Tina Knowles, about how Beyonce's father and just what
Speaker 1: she's seeing big picture, like the whole history of experience
Speaker 1: being a black one in America, and it's not just
Speaker 1: about her, and in the end, it's much bigger picture.
Speaker 1: So maybe it doesn't matter, like you guys are saying,
Speaker 1: if it's strictly true or biographical, it could also just
Speaker 1: be a piece of art that we can take as
Speaker 1: a story and is extremely compelling, beautiful. And I think
Speaker 1: the fact that we're having this discussion means that it
Speaker 1: is so personal and so it's so well executed and
Speaker 1: it's performed so well that the fact that we're debating
Speaker 1: it to this extent means that it's succeeded on every level.
Speaker 1: And I think that it's shrewd of her to use
Speaker 1: her actual husband in the video and to show clips
Speaker 1: of her father and her as a child, because she
Speaker 1: knows that everyone knows who they are. She knows that
Speaker 1: this is for people that get the narrative or think
Speaker 1: that they could get the narrative, and it's just driving
Speaker 1: this thing home. And actually, like I I believe and
Speaker 1: enjoy it either way, because I believe as much as
Speaker 1: it's about her, it's also about the experience of and
Speaker 1: I obviously can't speak to us, and none of us
Speaker 1: can speak to us, but I feel that Lemonade is
Speaker 1: about the experience of being a black woman. And that's
Speaker 1: why I think it's so great that it ends with formation.
Speaker 1: She's like, I've been through all this stuff. Many of
Speaker 1: us have been through all this stuff, and we're still
Speaker 1: going to go on and became MB soldiers and we're
Speaker 1: gonna be proud, and we're gonna get in formation. And
Speaker 1: it's just like it's about the experience of being someone
Speaker 1: that's always tossed aside, even by the men in their lives,
Speaker 1: and that's something very unique to her perspective. And I
Speaker 1: don't it doesn't matter to me whether it's a fact
Speaker 1: or not. And I think she, Yeah, she succeeded in
Speaker 1: sort of underlining her thesis. I'm just kind of using
Speaker 1: such a not just language, but I feel like she
Speaker 1: was just trying to make a statement on how like
Speaker 1: misogyny and racism are at their most like powerful even
Speaker 1: in the intimacies of a marriage, right, And that's like
Speaker 1: all those those those Malcolm X quotes were all just
Speaker 1: like super super relevant and pointing it and I think, um, god, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it's it's it's such a good piece of work.
Speaker 1: It really is away like this is the girl who
Speaker 1: was bootylicious. That's what she's become. This it's such a
Speaker 1: short amount of time. And not to diminish the value
Speaker 1: of those amazing songs that she did before Beyonce, which
Speaker 1: really was a turning point, and that visual album, I mean,
Speaker 1: I lost madam mind wow, I'm still not okay, I'm
Speaker 1: still recovering. I mean that was I think that was
Speaker 1: truly that that album was about something entirely different too,
Speaker 1: because it was about really more sexuality and owning what sexuality.
Speaker 1: So funny, I was just telling my best you were
Speaker 1: talking about Beyonce, were like we were just debating whether
Speaker 1: she can have sex with her husband. Like the debate
Speaker 1: last album was like is she a feminist if she
Speaker 1: has sex? And it feels like that was so long ago,
Speaker 1: that was two years ago. It's like crazy how much
Speaker 1: we were holding her under that scrutiny and now it's
Speaker 1: a whole different thing. It's always going to be something else,
Speaker 1: but she keeps evolving so quickly. It's so exciting, it's
Speaker 1: so funny because people like Piers Morgan. Do you see
Speaker 1: what he said? Like he's literally mad at her for
Speaker 1: having because she has thoughts and opinions about the fact
Speaker 1: that she is black. Specifically, he was mad about how
Speaker 1: she exploited all these mothers of the TV. Exploiting the
Speaker 1: situation is literally what he does to everything that he's
Speaker 1: a commentator, He's a talking hat. He exploits everything for
Speaker 1: his own personal game. Who is he to talk? He's
Speaker 1: an idiot, total idiot. What is he doing crazy? Honestly,
Speaker 1: like to speak to something that like he's not intellectually
Speaker 1: are creatively capable of doing it? Anyway? I know he's
Speaker 1: the worst, and like just everyone's It just brings me
Speaker 1: back to the whole Super Bowl thing. If he was like,
Speaker 1: oh she what hypocrite? Oh my god, wait a minute,
Speaker 1: Can I tell you guys a story? I don't think
Speaker 1: I don't even think I told you this what We
Speaker 1: were doing a story pirate show at Series x M,
Speaker 1: and we were in this waiting area, like you know,
Speaker 1: they put you back into this area with like some
Speaker 1: food and like and stuff, and Bowen and I are
Speaker 1: in are in the We do shows for kids, and
Speaker 1: we do shows on the radio. So we had the
Speaker 1: Sirius XM and there's like a little green room, the
Speaker 1: green room where people said before they do the shows,
Speaker 1: and they go and it's a giant TV. And on
Speaker 1: the TV was TMZ and then there's a there's a
Speaker 1: gentleman sitting on the on the chair next to us
Speaker 1: and he's just like on his phone and he's a
Speaker 1: very stylish guy. And then I look at him and
Speaker 1: I recognize him, like like I have seen him somewhere.
Speaker 1: And then I turned it and then on the TV
Speaker 1: on TMZ is this is right after the super Bowl.
Speaker 1: They're talking about, oh it is Beyonce anti Police or whatever,
Speaker 1: and then this guy is just kind of like shaking
Speaker 1: his head. And then and then right at that moment,
Speaker 1: it clicks. He's the guy in the exo video who's
Speaker 1: on the roller coaster with her and he's Beyonce's stylist.
Speaker 1: I recognized him and I go, Hi, are you? And
Speaker 1: then I at first I did some very sneaky googling,
Speaker 1: like I need to get his name. I can't just
Speaker 1: be like, are you Beyonce's stylist? I just wanted to
Speaker 1: like pay him the decency to like so it's like
Speaker 1: are you and I forget I forget his name. I'm
Speaker 1: so sorry you guys. But then I was like are
Speaker 1: you this and this and that? And he goes, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: and I know so your Beyonce's stylist and he's like
Speaker 1: m And then everyone in the room like all the
Speaker 1: other story parts like what and like right as this
Speaker 1: fucking missive against Beyonce was being heard on TV, and
Speaker 1: I was like, what do you think about this? And
Speaker 1: he was like he's like, it's nuts, Like it's it's
Speaker 1: not like like he styled those women he styled like.
Speaker 1: He was like, it's it's a reference that's not a stag.
Speaker 1: Like he was like, I forgot what he said exactly,
Speaker 1: but he was just like he didn't put too many
Speaker 1: words to it either. He was just like he just
Speaker 1: didn't Carrey. He was like, no, it's just ridiculous. Everyone's
Speaker 1: blowing this out of her port funny and he was
Speaker 1: there for a show like Upstairs, and I was I
Speaker 1: was really star strick. I was like, you're in the
Speaker 1: US video. I mean, also, her style is her stylist.
Speaker 1: That's crazy culture stuff. I think what what inspired me
Speaker 1: first of all about both Super Bowl performances for her,
Speaker 1: it was like, look how hard you could work and
Speaker 1: be so talented and you can do anything like you
Speaker 1: nail it. Those are such when I need inspiration. I
Speaker 1: watched those and I can even though I can't. You're
Speaker 1: You're gonna like, literally, your silhouette's gonna light up in
Speaker 1: fire one day at the super Bowl. You know that?
Speaker 1: That is what I picture when I have to walk
Speaker 1: into a room that's high pressure, and I also walk
Speaker 1: around like that. I noticed my stance is constantly. I'm
Speaker 1: like Jaunty on the Hip with do you do you
Speaker 1: stomp the runway on the street in New York? Oh?
Speaker 1: I stomp, Yeah, I stomped the runway quite a bit.
Speaker 1: I do what? What? What? What was it Chet who
Speaker 1: said that I did a figure on the box pods.
Speaker 1: But here's Carrie Bradshaw. I strut. I'm a strutter. Shut up, Carrie,
Speaker 1: what you're doing now? I mean? You must be that
Speaker 1: I know. So she doesn't. She doesn't play down her
Speaker 1: intelligence or creativity for other people. She's going to come
Speaker 1: out and do what's right for her as an artist,
Speaker 1: and she's not gonna worry. As far as I understand
Speaker 1: about the idiots who are going to misinterpret, like Lemonade
Speaker 1: is hard to interpret, and if you go through the
Speaker 1: lyrics of the song, they're loaded with meaning and the
Speaker 1: poetry she's poetry, Like that's way more she It's a
Speaker 1: commercial release with Lemonade in Times Square and go to
Speaker 1: HBO and it's free for everyone. But she's not going
Speaker 1: to dumb it down. She's going to make us come
Speaker 1: to her level. And I'm so impressed by that. And
Speaker 1: this is something that I've been thinking about for a
Speaker 1: few days, and like, I would really encourage everyone to
Speaker 1: truly look herself in the face and ask herself this question.
Speaker 1: Everyone who says, well, she's not writing those songs, she's
Speaker 1: not creatively involved in that, I want everyone to actually think,
Speaker 1: how much of the reason you're saying that is because
Speaker 1: she's a black woman. So how much of your inherent
Speaker 1: bias you don't even realize is coming out because she's
Speaker 1: a black woman who talks with maybe a Southern accent,
Speaker 1: who like maybe presents herself in a certain way. How
Speaker 1: much of your bias is causing you to say, well,
Speaker 1: she can't possibly be creative. Someone I saw some idiot
Speaker 1: and I don't know how I'm Facebook friends with him
Speaker 1: post at right after Lemonade came out. Oh well, Beyonce
Speaker 1: came up with a great new album. Will listen to
Speaker 1: her open her mouth and speak. And then he like
Speaker 1: commented on on his own fucking status like, um, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: she has three thoughts in her head total or something
Speaker 1: like just it's like, you know what Kanye does this album?
Speaker 1: No one says everyone else does this album. Even Taylor Swift,
Speaker 1: like she she's in control of her product, and wow,
Speaker 1: what an amazing young songwriter. Can't believe how young she is.
Speaker 1: I can't believe how in control of her brand is
Speaker 1: what it's Beyonce. It's like despite you know, people spreading
Speaker 1: rumors about you know, her poaching material or whatever, blah
Speaker 1: blah blah. Whoever, like everyone's a genius and as the intel,
Speaker 1: everyone has the scoop, but like you're saying this about
Speaker 1: really only her, and like the only other woman in
Speaker 1: the industry who I can think of the people talk
Speaker 1: about that way who's on that level is Rihanna. She well,
Speaker 1: she obviously doesn't write anything, she doesn't do anything, blah
Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah. And it's just like you wouldn't
Speaker 1: say this about is the hardest working woman in entertainment.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's no question about it. And she and
Speaker 1: when Beyonce came, when her last album came out, she
Speaker 1: put out this series of like just the little confessional
Speaker 1: interviews that were really nice, and she just she was
Speaker 1: just so good in them, and she's just talking about
Speaker 1: making the album and she's just so so articulate and intelligent,
Speaker 1: and it's like, no, you guys are choosing, you guys
Speaker 1: are seeing what you want to see, and that like,
Speaker 1: oh well, she's just dumb, like which doesn't even I
Speaker 1: think her her interviews from the past haven't been great,
Speaker 1: but the work like really pops and says so much more.
Speaker 1: And some people just also like aren't interview people. She
Speaker 1: doesn't feel comfortable doing that, and like, I think if
Speaker 1: you actually look like I remember years ago when when
Speaker 1: I think she was on a promotional tour for maybe
Speaker 1: it was like b Day and it was after that
Speaker 1: and like her clothing line was coming out her Tina
Speaker 1: Knows Clothing I was coming out. She was on all
Speaker 1: the talk shows with her mother. She I just think
Speaker 1: she genuinely might not be that comfortable doing that. I
Speaker 1: remember years ago, in the start of her career, they
Speaker 1: were trying to have her host like the VMA's Red
Speaker 1: Carpet and Ship. It didn't seem right, it didn't seem
Speaker 1: like she should be doing. But like crazy manager that
Speaker 1: was her father that she eventually dumped, which is her decision.
Speaker 1: And like, I just don't know how much will do
Speaker 1: you think is being pulled over your eyes? Like is
Speaker 1: everything a conspiracy? Now? Like, I don't know. I see
Speaker 1: a lot of similarities between her as someone who doesn't
Speaker 1: like the press, but it's a hard worker with another
Speaker 1: female figure. But we won't talk. You're talking, I'm talking
Speaker 1: about I don't And what are we talking. We're talking
Speaker 1: about Hillary Week for women in a big week for
Speaker 1: women haters, let's give it. Hillary was on a podcast
Speaker 1: off message on Politico and it was such a good
Speaker 1: She's she's so this is the most relaxed I've ever
Speaker 1: heard her. And she was just like being real. She
Speaker 1: was like, listen, I'm not a good I'm not good
Speaker 1: at campaigning because I don't like to do it. And meanwhile,
Speaker 1: my like Bill Clinton, Barack Obama. She goes, they're so
Speaker 1: good at it because it's like music to them like
Speaker 1: they love to do it. They love to campaign and
Speaker 1: get people together, and and and then she goes and
Speaker 1: this is so important and I'm sorry we're on this
Speaker 1: Hillary tangent. But she doesn't care. But she goes um
Speaker 1: for the longest time, she says, for the longest time,
Speaker 1: I had trouble saying that, making eye statements. She had
Speaker 1: trouble making things like I want your I want you
Speaker 1: to vote for me. She would only ever talk, She
Speaker 1: was like, for the longest time, I would only ever
Speaker 1: talk in terms of we, in terms of us, in
Speaker 1: terms of or I could. I have no problem talking
Speaker 1: about he, she at us whatever. But she had such
Speaker 1: a hard time like making it about her because that's
Speaker 1: just what she She internalized that over years and years
Speaker 1: and years of being a woman who's constantly scrutinized, like
Speaker 1: she's not good at this because she doesn't care for it,
Speaker 1: because it's not that important and it's not natural, right,
Speaker 1: The campaigning is not natural. It's not. If it is,
Speaker 1: you're very close to an eaglemania. Look at the people
Speaker 1: who are great campaigners, not Brack my love, but I
Speaker 1: mean kind of like John Edwards and he's like real great.
Speaker 1: These are like these people who can go up and
Speaker 1: command a room and speak, but they're also kind of
Speaker 1: uh thinking about the kind of people that go for that.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know what I mean. And you know,
Speaker 1: Hillary being at the level that she is is a
Speaker 1: big symptom of her being closely related to someone that
Speaker 1: was good at that. I think it was late in
Speaker 1: her life that she may be thought, maybe I want
Speaker 1: to run for officer actually be president of the United States.
Speaker 1: I don't know for sure that before being first Lady
Speaker 1: she was thinking that way. I mean, this isn't some
Speaker 1: bullshit House of cards scenario. I don't think which people
Speaker 1: really wanted to make it into that. But it's like,
Speaker 1: how much are you going to believe that everything is
Speaker 1: a conspiracy until you drive yourself fucking crazy? But the
Speaker 1: Beyonce stuff, it is it's like like you're threatened by
Speaker 1: someone who doesn't fit your idea of power obtaining power,
Speaker 1: and you have to create another story around how they
Speaker 1: got there. It's crazy and it's like it's it's like,
Speaker 1: so you're saying, so what people are saying is that
Speaker 1: literally nothing that comes out of her mouth is genuine.
Speaker 1: Why do you think she wants to be president? Also
Speaker 1: she does carry hot sauce and her fucking that is true. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of content like why are you even
Speaker 1: talking about not not us? I mean just like why
Speaker 1: are people upset about that? I mean well, I mean
Speaker 1: the rest of that interview that she that she did
Speaker 1: for that for that quote was like some host was
Speaker 1: like calling her out. They were like, well, aren't you
Speaker 1: are you trying to pan her to black voters and
Speaker 1: she was like, well is it working? Like she was
Speaker 1: nervous and I don't know. She like like again she's
Speaker 1: not good at campaign. Again, God forbids she make any
Speaker 1: joke too. I mean it's like it's like all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, like Joe Biden is the only politician who
Speaker 1: can have a sense of humor nowadays. Like it's it's
Speaker 1: just like ridiculous. Shut up again. I just want to
Speaker 1: tell everyone that's like talking sure about her to shut up, Like,
Speaker 1: to shut up. You can support Bernie without dragging you
Speaker 1: really care and you look so stupid. And I'm honestly
Speaker 1: it makes me so mad to this point because now
Speaker 1: everyone posting these Bernie status is you're you're none of
Speaker 1: you are succeeding in doing it without dragging Hillary, and
Speaker 1: you don't really have that good of a reason. You're
Speaker 1: not backed up, and you're and it's it's crazy and
Speaker 1: it's gotten so ugly, like shut Bernie voted in the
Speaker 1: prison bill that the Clintons pushed to through Congress. Anyway,
Speaker 1: I wonder if Hillary and will Beionce come out for Hillary,
Speaker 1: I think, But it was private. I heard they were
Speaker 1: like recording. There was a video that was taped of
Speaker 1: them that exists in the world. Maybe she'll wait till
Speaker 1: it's closer to the election. Yeah, sure, maybe, I mean
Speaker 1: I always, I mean tell her Slift could never come
Speaker 1: out and support a candidate, because I think she's got
Speaker 1: so many would come out and say she didn't support Trump.
Speaker 1: I'm sure, here's my reason why you shouldn't vote for Trump,
Speaker 1: like whatever politics aside. Look at your supporters. You have
Speaker 1: Aaron Carter, like who else? It's just like gross people
Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, there was there was another one. Um,
Speaker 1: I forget fucking Azalea Banks, who had a lot of
Speaker 1: Donald Trump. But she's also doing it for like burn
Speaker 1: the world reasons, but like fun, we're having fun with
Speaker 1: that fun Omarossa. You gotta there's the classic interview of
Speaker 1: Omarossa and Wendy Williams. You ever seen that on Wendy?
Speaker 1: That was the shade called everything that Oh the shade tree. Alright,
Speaker 1: p I'm the Laura calling it out. I'm saying, we
Speaker 1: need the shade tree to live and where is it?
Speaker 1: I need another in the shade Laura act, I speak
Speaker 1: for the shade tree. We need um. What was Wendy
Speaker 1: Williams came about her What a moment for her when
Speaker 1: that video came back of her actually talking about all
Speaker 1: that jay Z Beyonce stuff and being extremely accurate after
Speaker 1: the elevator, she was like, here's exactly what happened, and
Speaker 1: she talked about how at the met gala, uh that
Speaker 1: Solange saw jay Z with Rachel and was very upset
Speaker 1: and the reason why they were in the elevator is
Speaker 1: because and she didn't do it beyond it did in moves,
Speaker 1: because Beyonce knew that there was a camera and that
Speaker 1: Solange was writing my interview and she called the whole thing.
Speaker 1: She said literally like shot for shot. Here's why this
Speaker 1: is Wendy Williams. She was she's our Nancy Drew and
Speaker 1: that Yeah, that's a great video's little face. He's just like, oh,
Speaker 1: Rachel Roy. I had to design. Um uh. I work
Speaker 1: at this company that sells home furnishings and we get
Speaker 1: a lot of these partnerships with like fucking cannon fodder celebrities.
Speaker 1: Um Rachel Roy was one of them, and we did
Speaker 1: we did an office makeover for her, and I had
Speaker 1: to design to design, like the hero design spots for
Speaker 1: them to fuss contact of the affair. I'm dropping this
Speaker 1: Culture News brief. Team Rachel Roy is Team Rachel Roy,
Speaker 1: Rachel Ray. I want, I want like a big bee hive.
Speaker 1: Is not as smart as they should be, but I
Speaker 1: think it's karmically. It's it's so satisfying because Rachel Rachel
Speaker 1: Ray is apparently a monster. I've heard that too. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I believe that Kelly Rip was a monster. I love her,
Speaker 1: And I tell you something, I've heard some shady s.
Speaker 1: My sister worked on that show and she says that
Speaker 1: she's amazing, and she well, she wasn't like she was amazing,
Speaker 1: but she was like, yeah, Kelly RiPP is very nice.
Speaker 1: You know what, Maybe she's very nice. I heard I
Speaker 1: heard an account from my from my aunt. This is
Speaker 1: a fun story. My aunt. My my aunt nuncle have
Speaker 1: a good a bit of money and they their daughter
Speaker 1: raised horses. She was like an equestrian, so she trained
Speaker 1: um at this I guess equestrian school and they were
Speaker 1: getting ready for like the competition. So like Kelly Rippa's
Speaker 1: daughter also rais and so like I guess they were
Speaker 1: too competing horse schools. So like all the moms are
Speaker 1: there watching like the meat or whatever. I guess. It's like,
Speaker 1: what is it the Derby. It's called the Derby, by
Speaker 1: the way, we had to say, we're wearing some brim hats.
Speaker 1: Speaking of derby, Janey looks stunning in her my head
Speaker 1: is so big that it's just like a thimble on
Speaker 1: a ball. It would be, it would be, it would
Speaker 1: be a wrong thing if like it looked good, because
Speaker 1: we're particularly we all look stupid. Anyway, at the Derby,
Speaker 1: my my cousin went to go and her horse wants
Speaker 1: to go jump over like a hurdle, which is part
Speaker 1: of it. And the horse didn't make it over the hurdle,
Speaker 1: and my cousin got them from the horse, and like
Speaker 1: for a second was like kind of unconscious. It's just
Speaker 1: like the simple life and the Olsen twins on that
Speaker 1: one episode of Full House. It was back around let
Speaker 1: so basically like Christine and my cousin was still from
Speaker 1: the horse and hit her head and was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I guess unconscious for a minute, and of course my
Speaker 1: aunt is freaked out, and Kelly Rippa apparently made like
Speaker 1: a bitchy comment about that's why you don't train it
Speaker 1: like wildwood or something. But like but like honestly, my
Speaker 1: apparently turned around to give her the business about like
Speaker 1: her body or something. Likely went for like in a
Speaker 1: way that like those women would really not want to
Speaker 1: become attack a woman's Oh my god, that's crazy. But yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what I heard about Rippa. But also she did
Speaker 1: appear to be very cool. Did you see like her
Speaker 1: address today? She went on, she went on, and like
Speaker 1: they gave her like a good solid five minutes to
Speaker 1: address the audience, and she's seemed very cool. Certainly like
Speaker 1: couples that I keep in mind, hetero couples that I
Speaker 1: love to just like have them back and and rip up.
Speaker 1: It was that like offensive him and like no, no,
Speaker 1: you guys did it. It's like I don't know you
Speaker 1: did it. Just that's it's I mean, just kidding. I
Speaker 1: did an improp show for little kids and I did
Speaker 1: what could potentially be like an offensive Latin accent, but like,
Speaker 1: it's fine, they love I've done it. I've done that
Speaker 1: accent on the UCB Stage two and it was fine.
Speaker 1: I played like a European Bond fill in and I
Speaker 1: did like a Latin accident and it was fine. No
Speaker 1: one said anything to me. But honestly whatever, I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna say this come for me. Culture does. But the
Speaker 1: only access I'm good at are ones that I'm not
Speaker 1: allowed to do. Yeah, that I can't do, like any
Speaker 1: of the accents that do them all right now that
Speaker 1: I mean I do. He's like, okay, So the thing
Speaker 1: is like you should never ever do occur. I grew
Speaker 1: up on Long Island where everything was offensive and everything
Speaker 1: was also okay, so it's like, yeah, I live in
Speaker 1: that gray area. But anyway, guys, what's the favorite track
Speaker 1: on beyond Lemonade? Here we go? Oh you know what,
Speaker 1: I just want to I just want to link Hillary
Speaker 1: and Beyonce one more time. Okay, stay with her husbands,
Speaker 1: you know after infidelity? Yes they did, and that's tough
Speaker 1: for me. It's tough. For me too, because can I
Speaker 1: say something please? During sand Castles in Limonading the film,
Speaker 1: I was a great song. I was shocked when they
Speaker 1: cut to jay Z. It was shocking. It was maybe
Speaker 1: not earned, That's what I'm saying, Like, up until that
Speaker 1: point in the film, and I get I get that
Speaker 1: that song was like the inflection point in the in
Speaker 1: the story. But I feel like, up until that point
Speaker 1: in the film, it was all about a woman's journey
Speaker 1: two through like these very Kubler Rossian stages of grief
Speaker 1: and acceptance or whatever. I'm looking through the track list
Speaker 1: right now to see what kind of proceeds that. It's
Speaker 1: Love Drought, Love Drought, which is an amazing song. I'll
Speaker 1: get to that later. But so it's Daddy Lessons. So
Speaker 1: I feel like Daddy Lessons, so you have the whole
Speaker 1: first five songs, which are like pretty angry, yeah, like
Speaker 1: and it's sets a tone, and then Daddy Lessons is like, well,
Speaker 1: let me look actually at my life and like how
Speaker 1: how things have shaken out? And I see what my
Speaker 1: father has done to my mother and maybe I married
Speaker 1: into the same thing, and I just I feel like
Speaker 1: that's kind of where it's going. Love drought. What does
Speaker 1: that song about? It's Um, it's it's like it's like,
Speaker 1: I know you're lying, but why because you and I
Speaker 1: can move we can move them out, and we can
Speaker 1: calm calm a war down. We can make it rain
Speaker 1: on this love drought. Like the lyrics are excellent. Um,
Speaker 1: but I mean, yeah, so sand Castle's is like the
Speaker 1: turning point in the in the movie. And for me, yeah,
Speaker 1: it was unearned what Janey said, like, it was just
Speaker 1: it was all about and I guess it's placed well,
Speaker 1: like I don't begrudge of that. I just I don't
Speaker 1: think j Z should have been in it at all
Speaker 1: because it's about women's journeys in but he's part of
Speaker 1: her journey. He's a huge part of her journey. And
Speaker 1: I actually, this is where I'm going to take a
Speaker 1: contrarian stance. I'm gonna say, you know, this is about
Speaker 1: her first and foremost, but he is a part of her.
Speaker 1: And I think that you know, it's it's up to her.
Speaker 1: It's she is empowered to make the choice to forgive.
Speaker 1: And I think that she that that in and of
Speaker 1: itself is really hard, and I think yes, and again,
Speaker 1: another brave thing about lemonade. Is it opens her up
Speaker 1: to that criticism. I just love that we're talking about
Speaker 1: this in the first place. Yeah, and that's why it's
Speaker 1: so great. It's because you know everyone has an opinion
Speaker 1: on what you do and that you either stand by
Speaker 1: your man or you fucking book it. And it's like this.
Speaker 1: It is interesting to think about in the lens of
Speaker 1: Hillary because there's those people like Carly Fiorina and other
Speaker 1: idiots that are like, listen, if Bill Clinton did what
Speaker 1: did that to me? I would have left him a
Speaker 1: long time ago. That's why you can't trust her what
Speaker 1: she She's funked up and can't make decisions for herself.
Speaker 1: And then those people it was mid to late nineties,
Speaker 1: mind you, where it was very stand by your man
Speaker 1: and honestly, she's damned if she does, and she's damned
Speaker 1: if she does, and with everything in her life, but
Speaker 1: especially that and now to think about this with Beyonce, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we can be upset, we can be mad, and I'm
Speaker 1: happy that we're angry at jay Z and not Rachel Roy,
Speaker 1: because let's be mad at him. Team Rachel Roy go
Speaker 1: out by an expensive skirt. But the thing is like
Speaker 1: she's opened her up to herself up to this criticism
Speaker 1: and it that's that's that's brave. I'm not using that one.
Speaker 1: It always sends her casting now because you've just ruined it. Also,
Speaker 1: I just want to say one more thing about the
Speaker 1: Hillary thing, because I think another way to look at
Speaker 1: her is to actually look at her supporters, her really
Speaker 1: ardent supporters in government. Um, there's an interview with Kirsten
Speaker 1: Gillibrand that James Falter posted and then I reposted, and
Speaker 1: this is really a good interview, Like it's like maybe
Speaker 1: it's an hour, and she gets really emotional several times
Speaker 1: about the interview and she's really in Hillary's corner, and
Speaker 1: it feels so genuine and this is someone that knows
Speaker 1: her And I would just encourage people to kind of
Speaker 1: like check that out, like because like I really think
Speaker 1: we're at a point now where we're refusing to educate ourselves.
Speaker 1: Says to me, I'd vote for Elizabeth Warren. I'm going
Speaker 1: to slap somebody. Here's the thing. Elizabeth Warren does not
Speaker 1: want to be president run for president, and she this
Speaker 1: delusion people have that she's going to be chosen as
Speaker 1: the VP. Let it go. She if she wanted to
Speaker 1: be in the White House, she would have made the
Speaker 1: decision She's not going to put herself into place where
Speaker 1: she's a heart beat away from the White House if
Speaker 1: she doesn't want to be president. And it's a it's
Speaker 1: a very telling choice of her not to endorse either Canada. Yeah,
Speaker 1: think so too. She would have she would have endorsed
Speaker 1: Bernie eight years ago, like it was if she was
Speaker 1: totally on board with him, because she has her reasons
Speaker 1: not to be. I think she genuinely is on the
Speaker 1: she I think she's on the right side of everything.
Speaker 1: And I think, like I think you could, you can
Speaker 1: make the argument that both of them as candidates have flaws.
Speaker 1: I mean, they're both insane something something really. Elizabeth Warren's
Speaker 1: is solange because she is right. She's Um Williams and
Speaker 1: she punched. But imagine no, yeah, imagine actually rule number
Speaker 1: ninety of culture Elizabeth Warren Z. Yeah, we actually are
Speaker 1: going to be um creating here. How much close to
Speaker 1: use that's a gift of Elizabeth Warren punching j Z.
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, it's gonna be um. But yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: the one thing that's really important to me in the
Speaker 1: election and Kirsten Gillibrand gets really emotional about this is
Speaker 1: guns and I'm sorry, Bernie, Bernie is not as good
Speaker 1: as Hillary on guns, and you can't convince me otherwise.
Speaker 1: I don't care about what you say about hiss NR.
Speaker 1: I rating it's it's I don't know, no, trying to
Speaker 1: figure out who he'd be as a pop star. But
Speaker 1: it's not really translating. Okay, we actually did this for
Speaker 1: a second for drag race for pop stars for pop stars,
Speaker 1: I think, can we do? I remember this Katie Perry
Speaker 1: is Hillary. I don't know. It was too fun. No,
Speaker 1: Joel can Booster has done this. Um Hillary is Taylor
Speaker 1: Swift and Bernie is Carly ray Jepson. That's insane. I
Speaker 1: know that. I know Joel. I know Joel has given
Speaker 1: the edge to car I'm not on board interesting Carly
Speaker 1: well because I mean, like this is this was back
Speaker 1: when Joel was more what was Trump rita? Aura Trump
Speaker 1: is rita or it doesn't make any sense. This was
Speaker 1: back when Joel was more Bernie leaning and Joel and
Speaker 1: Joel was like standing for Carly ray Jepson and hating
Speaker 1: on Taylor. So for him it was very need a hint, people,
Speaker 1: what did you say, I'm here without you? Maybe just
Speaker 1: like no go away? Do you know what song came
Speaker 1: out at Worth the other day which is actually a jam?
Speaker 1: Crypt No? I mean maybe. Um. Guys, look, we are
Speaker 1: nearing the end and we have to get hit a
Speaker 1: couple of segments. So I don't janey you're a fan
Speaker 1: of the show. People that are fans of the show,
Speaker 1: we know we have are one of our favorite segments.
Speaker 1: This is called I don't Think so high. This is
Speaker 1: when we have put sixty seconds on the clock and
Speaker 1: you have sixty seconds to rail against something in culture
Speaker 1: or something that's affecting you culturally in any way. Using
Speaker 1: the term I don't think so many as much as
Speaker 1: you can. And it should be impassionate to be a
Speaker 1: full thought missive. It should be a missive. Now, Bonen,
Speaker 1: do you have something that you want to talk about?
Speaker 1: I don't, do you. I think I think one of
Speaker 1: us should start to the g can you can see
Speaker 1: I think that one of us should begin and I
Speaker 1: can go Firstna go first? Okay, alright, women in o'clock,
Speaker 1: whenever you start, ok and I'm I am ready great.
Speaker 1: I don't think so honey. The f train on a
Speaker 1: Sunday night. Let me tell you something. F I have
Speaker 1: to get home and all of a sudden, it's like
Speaker 1: it's after seven pm on a Sunday and you're taking
Speaker 1: a break. Well, guess what you work for me? Honey,
Speaker 1: I don't think so. You don't get to take break
Speaker 1: unless I say I would rather you take a break,
Speaker 1: Quite honestly, in the middle of the day, in the
Speaker 1: middle of the work day. We need you at these times,
Speaker 1: all right. You need to be there for me when
Speaker 1: I need to get home to Seventh Avenue off the
Speaker 1: f G and guess what. How can I have to
Speaker 1: transfer so many times to get home? Honey, I don't
Speaker 1: think so. I'm tired of hopping to the A to
Speaker 1: the C, to the B, to the F, to the
Speaker 1: to the T T T T. I don't want to honey.
Speaker 1: I don't want to transfer, no, mom, I don't want
Speaker 1: to be a player no more. Honey, You're too much
Speaker 1: And how come I'm getting stuck? I want when I'm
Speaker 1: on the subway next they're gonna say who's gonna stop this,
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna say me, And then I want fight
Speaker 1: Song by Rachel Platton to play. I'm gonna say no
Speaker 1: more empty TV because I don't think so. That's one minute.
Speaker 1: I think. I think that really is going to change things.
Speaker 1: Lost a little bit of steam towards the end. No,
Speaker 1: I think I got more firm. You got more firm.
Speaker 1: I think I got stronger, and that was really good.
Speaker 1: Why do I get stuck like Whitney? I don't stuck.
Speaker 1: Oh man, Whitney's great, come on, Bowen. I had to think.
Speaker 1: It went on the spot. I had to speak from
Speaker 1: the heart. I'm a little disappointed with my I have
Speaker 1: a similar one. Well, no, no, no, I don't wait
Speaker 1: stop stop stop, I really don't. I can do all right,
Speaker 1: all right, now you go, you go. It is time
Speaker 1: and it begins. I don't see the time. I'm like nervous. Sorry,
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. To the current state of
Speaker 1: brand integration on the Housewives franchise, because it started out
Speaker 1: with Bethany, and she knew what she was doing. Even
Speaker 1: before she knew she knew what she was doing, she
Speaker 1: built Skinny Girl into a million dollars sail to Jenny.
Speaker 1: On her own, she was hawking muffins and a grocery
Speaker 1: source sas in one of real Housewives in New York.
Speaker 1: Now we get these women thinking they're so savvy, we
Speaker 1: see through all of it. I'm not buying your rock
Speaker 1: that you say is a jewel. I'm not buying your
Speaker 1: toaster of and that's going to set my house on fire, Sonja.
Speaker 1: I'm not buying the third iteration of a drink now
Speaker 1: called like tipsy girl. I see through you, and I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: I'm also not buying the Bravos sponsorship with Soul Cycle
Speaker 1: where you go to Habitat for Humanity afterwards. I'm on
Speaker 1: board with Habitat, and I think it cheapens their brand
Speaker 1: and their integrity. Soul Cycle should be ashamed of themselves.
Speaker 1: I think that they should be ashamed themselves for many reasons,
Speaker 1: but one of them is that they are horrible. And
Speaker 1: I don't think so. Honey, Wow, you did it. I
Speaker 1: think that that and you know what, truly attacked culture.
Speaker 1: And I said, I think now people are going to
Speaker 1: be more aware because I don't know that everyone has
Speaker 1: really thought about the spears baptize your pain and you're suffering.
Speaker 1: I'll let Beyonce. Sometimes it's just having a minute on
Speaker 1: the class and just saying whatever you want. But you
Speaker 1: and me love drought. I think, right, are you doing one?
Speaker 1: I'm doing one? And still I'm still stumped. Well bow,
Speaker 1: and I don't know what to say. I don't think
Speaker 1: all right, okay, I don't think honey, I've got something.
Speaker 1: All right, here we go. I don't think so, honey.
Speaker 1: People who keep squatting in meaning rooms and conference rooms
Speaker 1: right after they've been booked, well past they've been they're
Speaker 1: booking time, I don't. I cannot hover outside and be
Speaker 1: a vulture for you and just wait and shoot you,
Speaker 1: you know, mean eyes, and say, well, you know it's
Speaker 1: it's time, And then I have to be the onus
Speaker 1: is on me to open up the door, crack it open,
Speaker 1: and peek in and be like, hey, guys, we have
Speaker 1: the room. I don't think so, honey, because you know what,
Speaker 1: it's not on me, it's on you. Reheartual rooms, conference
Speaker 1: conference rooms at work and at your office or anywhere
Speaker 1: you know, any kind of scheduled space. You cannot hold
Speaker 1: the space for longer than you're a lot of times,
Speaker 1: this is done. This is done. Excuse me, this is mine.
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. I don't think so honey.
Speaker 1: Matt Rodgers I don't think so, honey. People who cut
Speaker 1: into my who cut into my space, who take up
Speaker 1: space for designated space for me. This is exactly what
Speaker 1: is wrong with Janey. Do you do not take up
Speaker 1: space for me? I don't think so, honey, Janey. And
Speaker 1: that is one minute, Honey, you were the culture of
Speaker 1: being under attacked air I truly was. I think that
Speaker 1: Bowen Yang is a huge part of culture. And I
Speaker 1: think that I attacked him. I think that Jeney attacked him.
Speaker 1: I think that's how you know it's worth improved my point.
Speaker 1: And you still you peeked your head out, you said,
Speaker 1: not right now, but listen, I know because this is
Speaker 1: the opposite. I had the conference room, but you two
Speaker 1: were the ones who picked your head in when you
Speaker 1: did not have the room. Books. Honey, honey, I don't
Speaker 1: think so. I don't think all of our clocks are
Speaker 1: said at different times. I think you're right. Someone's time
Speaker 1: up is not your time up unless you have the
Speaker 1: universal clock. Honting. This is a victim clock blaming scenario.
Speaker 1: You're ridiculous, You're all You're all filth, just disgusting. I
Speaker 1: hate where is the shape? I hate you? I can
Speaker 1: I just say I hate that. I hate I hate you,
Speaker 1: I hate Jenie, I hate our producer Joe, I hate
Speaker 1: I hate everything. So we love it. Um. Actually that's
Speaker 1: the time is really truly affected what I thought this
Speaker 1: was a safe It is it is? Can I tell
Speaker 1: you that was all a bit? And also now, thank
Speaker 1: god bits I have relieve also, um, and I just
Speaker 1: want to say, it's time to do a Culture of
Speaker 1: the week. So this is when we was our favorite
Speaker 1: culture show, our favorite culture of the week. Um, the
Speaker 1: best thing that's happening in culture this week for you
Speaker 1: besides Lemonade, which this is gonna be a tough, tough task.
Speaker 1: I think you can listen to me and bones culture
Speaker 1: of the week and then you can make it terms out.
Speaker 1: I actually know right away when I'm gonna go ahead. Um.
Speaker 1: You know my culture of the week are on ride
Speaker 1: photos Disney World, Disney photos, and I think you know
Speaker 1: it's so amazing what you can do when you're on
Speaker 1: a ride at Disney in terms of enjoyment, in terms
Speaker 1: of experience, but what's really incredible is what you can
Speaker 1: take home with you aka the merch um. And so
Speaker 1: this is not only just merched for the sake of
Speaker 1: having merch, which of course that's why it exists rule
Speaker 1: number three of culture merches merger question. So like, yeah,
Speaker 1: and I think, um, now you have a visual memory.
Speaker 1: I'd like to harken back to a time when we
Speaker 1: were on Rock and roller Coaster and we've got a
Speaker 1: truly a great picture taking David Gust last week. It
Speaker 1: was a wonderful photo and we were able to buy it.
Speaker 1: And I think that was so smart of Disney to
Speaker 1: sell something because as you know, and I just would
Speaker 1: like to really caution everyone, don't spend your money anywhere
Speaker 1: else but Disney. They need your money. Disney pranks aren't
Speaker 1: funny photos and roller coasters. That's so funny. And also
Speaker 1: the different kinds of faces that you can do in
Speaker 1: the pictures. You can do a serious face, you can
Speaker 1: do a really big, over the top face. There aren't
Speaker 1: where it's like, I just want to see funny face. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I want to see more funny faces in these photos.
Speaker 1: I want to see more faces of all kinds. I
Speaker 1: want to see you buying these on. Right, you know
Speaker 1: what's funny with your money? Knowing when in the roller
Speaker 1: coaster or in the ride, the camera it's so fun
Speaker 1: to know, so fun. So that's my culture for the week.
Speaker 1: Photographs that you can buy at Disney World on ride
Speaker 1: photographs amazing. Um, well, my culture of the week has
Speaker 1: to be Uh, the ice cream part are in the
Speaker 1: Magic Kingdom of Disney World. Explain, explain listen when they're
Speaker 1: trying to you know, shoe away all of the patrons
Speaker 1: and guests at the Magic Kingdom. Um. You know, the
Speaker 1: ice cream parlor bravely stays open until about one thirty am.
Speaker 1: And I believe when Matt and I went with her
Speaker 1: friend David Um as we were making our exit from
Speaker 1: the park, the ice cream parlor was open and they
Speaker 1: serve you a variety. There are so many flavors of
Speaker 1: many favors in the world, in the world and at
Speaker 1: the ice cream parlor. And there are a variety of cones,
Speaker 1: whether it's waffle or sugar. I can't get your eyes
Speaker 1: come on a waffle cone, on a sugar cone, on
Speaker 1: a wafer cone, or in a dipped cone, or or
Speaker 1: or in a plane cup. That's right now, we're talking
Speaker 1: to eat ice cream with a spoon. You can eat
Speaker 1: just with your mouth. You can eat it well, absolutely,
Speaker 1: And it's at Disney World. It's a Disney World, which
Speaker 1: is the best part. I love that. So, Jannie, what's
Speaker 1: what is your culture of the week. My cluture of
Speaker 1: the week is at a New World. When you are
Speaker 1: looking for something to do in your room and you
Speaker 1: had a nice day, you can look at this Twitter
Speaker 1: account that's just called everything goats goats, just pictures of
Speaker 1: baby goats, And I think goats are the new cat
Speaker 1: slashdog like they really think started with and that's what
Speaker 1: that's what it is. That's what it is. You know
Speaker 1: what it was? It was dogs and cats and then
Speaker 1: for a second, for just it was such a small window,
Speaker 1: but little tiny miniature pigs. Yes, they had a moment.
Speaker 1: They scared me a little, a little scary. They seemed unhealthy,
Speaker 1: they seemed like forced the metaboli, their metabolisms are probably
Speaker 1: very abnormal, abnormal. They cannot teller gluten, etcetera. But the
Speaker 1: goat is something else. The goat is ador It runs sideways,
Speaker 1: It screams at inappropriate times, it eats things. Some people
Speaker 1: have them in their homes, which raises so many questions
Speaker 1: loving goats, And there's a great Twitter where it's just
Speaker 1: like it's like, um, haters go to hate and it's
Speaker 1: a goat wearing sunglasses. Sony goat. Now I'm thinking that
Speaker 1: doesn't make sense. Janey, would you where would you place?
Speaker 1: Everything good? Everybody goes, everything goes. I wanted to be
Speaker 1: everybody goes, everybody everything. I'm not quite sure anything goes. Well.
Speaker 1: That's got him goats today and goats bad anyway. So
Speaker 1: is this I just want to do a shout out,
Speaker 1: a Disney shout out to Brady Okallaham Radio. He's living
Speaker 1: his goddamn wife on this vacation and thank you for
Speaker 1: doing it without an insovirony. He's posting such great photos
Speaker 1: from his trip. Here, so other people in in the
Speaker 1: community who just fully, earnestly embraced Disney. Um Michael Hart
Speaker 1: and Michael Harney, Jason Gore, Kristen Bartlett, Chapman, Oh have
Speaker 1: you never been? When I was? You must. I feel
Speaker 1: as if maybe there's like a huge Disney trip to
Speaker 1: be taken. I mean, like maybe we must and then
Speaker 1: we'll do a series called Fortnits in Orlando, my favorite
Speaker 1: Instagram series of many man. Well, gosh, I mean, this
Speaker 1: has been such a fun episode. We talked, really talked,
Speaker 1: fun you know what, that's we have to go to.
Speaker 1: Culture is all about shaking it up, getting a little
Speaker 1: bit real, having a little bit of fun, and making
Speaker 1: sure we all take it the same amount of seriousness, right,
Speaker 1: so eloquently, so elegant, and listen, when you have a
Speaker 1: real when you have it fun, you have to take
Speaker 1: it with the same seriousness. Alright, guys, my thanks and
Speaker 1: bones thanks to Janie Stillar and I really want to
Speaker 1: I want to because are you at Janie Stillar reference, Yes,
Speaker 1: of course, which is why you earned your spot this
Speaker 1: particular episode Lemonade episode I really want to um plug um.
Speaker 1: Two things Lemonade, the new album by Beyond you haven't
Speaker 1: heard of it. It's real cool and a spanking up.
Speaker 1: This Friday, Murder My Spirits. The Spirits, which I co
Speaker 1: wrote with my good friend Carly Anne Philbin and Bowen
Speaker 1: Yang features in it, featured and it will be up
Speaker 1: at six pm at UCB. Um. What did you want
Speaker 1: to plug? I want to plug? Oh gosh, I don't
Speaker 1: have that much to plug. Oh well, if you're in
Speaker 1: l A. On May ten, oh um, I will be
Speaker 1: hosting an old variety show of mine called Ethnic Realness
Speaker 1: with mycar we're on the same coast. It's it's it's
Speaker 1: a gay blood moon, so I love that. Any plugs
Speaker 1: besides um, I guess just female gays. May four. Three
Speaker 1: expressions with reality people who have met reality stars. Timothy
Speaker 1: Timothy Dunn has met Miss New York and or who
Speaker 1: auditioned for a real world No, yes, that is a story.
Speaker 1: Then a story like that has never been met. He
Speaker 1: met her boyfriend named d J Bucky Blend's, So I
Speaker 1: have so many questions d J Bucky Blen guys, so
Speaker 1: many shows to see on both coast, and I can't
Speaker 1: a way to see you at all. Oh my god
Speaker 1: less culture races. We had fun, we had fun, and
Speaker 1: we took it with all this. We thank you, Jamie
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