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Speaker 1: episode full of cultural goss. I think, you guys, this

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Speaker 1: is Bow and Yang, one of your culture consultants. And

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Speaker 1: this is Matt Rodgers. I'm the other cultural consultant. And

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Speaker 1: and you eat it up. You eat it up, You

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Speaker 1: eat what you're eating, what she's serving. Honey. Let me

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Speaker 1: Team Sleuth. She's one of the new Stacked Team. I think, yes,

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Speaker 1: absolutely great team. One of the hosts of one of

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Speaker 1: the hosts of one of my favorite podcasts, The Waiting Game.

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Speaker 1: The Waiting Game with Jesse Gali, and her name is

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Speaker 1: Janie stillar Hello, we love This is a huge moment

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Speaker 1: in a bar in the Financial district, like fall over herself.

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00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:07,440
Speaker 1: I'm like not know how to get to the bathroom.

427
00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:10,960
Speaker 1: It was really awful. Yeah, but I mean, I hope

428
00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:16,480
Speaker 1: she's okay. The family is such a mess. Who knew

429
00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:19,199
Speaker 1: that would become with that family, Jessica. The family was

430
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,840
Speaker 1: on a red carpet like within the past year, just

431
00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:24,720
Speaker 1: totally hammered, and it was funny, but it was it

432
00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,560
Speaker 1: was a little worried something. It was like, oh, maybe

433
00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,440
Speaker 1: maybe things aren't going well. But there was a time

434
00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:32,919
Speaker 1: when she remember when she was like j Lo level.

435
00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,120
Speaker 1: It was a time when she was a mo gul

436
00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:37,720
Speaker 1: And now I guess she still has like she was

437
00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:39,960
Speaker 1: millions and millions of dollars. You know, my mom is

438
00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,639
Speaker 1: a hairdresser, and she says that the Jessica Simpson hair

439
00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:44,679
Speaker 1: extensions are the best in the biz. Well, there you go,

440
00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:50,920
Speaker 1: Megan Kelly uses him, I said, I said, when all

441
00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:52,840
Speaker 1: the Trump and Megan Kelly ship was going on, I'm like,

442
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,359
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, the star of the show was not either

443
00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:59,080
Speaker 1: than it was the Megan Kelly Jessica assumption hair extensions.

444
00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:02,240
Speaker 1: Am I right, that's right. She looks good. She looked

445
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 1: she looked good, and that's what's important. I get it.

446
00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:11,840
Speaker 1: I was on I was on Megan Kelly's side, which

447
00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:15,520
Speaker 1: like sure, but like I guess, like in that situation,

448
00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:18,080
Speaker 1: like what good side was there to be on? But

449
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 1: like Megan Kelly didn't do anything wrong. Sure, Well now

450
00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:25,000
Speaker 1: they're they're they're good old pals. They are they the

451
00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:28,639
Speaker 1: hat she's interviewing him very very soon, and it's supposed

452
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:36,960
Speaker 1: to be very cordial and loose or whatever. And I

453
00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:40,320
Speaker 1: love it and everything. But you talked about the pop

454
00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:42,359
Speaker 1: culture of the past, and you're like, oh, what a

455
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:47,480
Speaker 1: fun time we had. It was so fun, and now

456
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:50,480
Speaker 1: it's like it's like the culture that's like shaking the world.

457
00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:54,000
Speaker 1: Right now is Beyonce Lemonade, And it's like, is it fun? No,

458
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:58,400
Speaker 1: it's our It's like it's I wouldn't describe it as fun.

459
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,399
Speaker 1: I would describe it as actually just at least scary. Yeah,

460
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,359
Speaker 1: we're not really going back anytime soon. I feel. No,

461
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 1: I don't think at some point, not right now. I

462
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:12,639
Speaker 1: think right now we're in a nightmare pop. I actually

463
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:14,680
Speaker 1: had to cover my eyes a few times during Lemonade

464
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,600
Speaker 1: that something was going We'll talk about that long scene

465
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 1: where they're going down into the basement and I was like,

466
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:23,480
Speaker 1: what is this and like, I don't know, Like she'll

467
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:25,640
Speaker 1: just randomly cut to like a shot of like some

468
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:28,480
Speaker 1: chains hanging from then. I thought it was very scary.

469
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 1: It was reminding me of the Ring. I was like,

470
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 1: this is terrifying. But yeah, we'll get to Lemonade because

471
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:36,919
Speaker 1: this episode is about Lemonade. But I did we have

472
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:42,119
Speaker 1: to we must touch on drag Race. We'll talk about Okay,

473
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,240
Speaker 1: so Jennie is an episode behind, so I guess we're

474
00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 1: I guess we're going to break some news to you

475
00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:49,639
Speaker 1: so you get a live reaction on air. It was

476
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:51,960
Speaker 1: it was a ninety minute long episode. Yeah, it was

477
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:57,240
Speaker 1: the challenge was the yearly balls that they have, so

478
00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:59,800
Speaker 1: last season it wasn't technically a ball, but was the

479
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 1: hell Katie Challenge. They to do two looks to a

480
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 1: voice over that described their character, and this season before

481
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,359
Speaker 1: that it was the Glitter Ball and then it was

482
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 1: the Sugar So anyway, so this season's was the book

483
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:17,480
Speaker 1: Ball in honor of guest judge David Sedaris. The Amydarris

484
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:19,720
Speaker 1: was the other guest judge, and to pay homage to her,

485
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 1: they had to stage like a lip sync number two

486
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:28,679
Speaker 1: a Jerry Blank inspired well Amy Sadaris just sang a

487
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 1: new original song about and they were all addressed as

488
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:34,639
Speaker 1: Jerry Blank and like did a dance number and it

489
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,919
Speaker 1: was it was, it was for us, it was And

490
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 1: I said, you put up at that. I was like, hi,

491
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:42,480
Speaker 1: just so you know anyone that can't get on board

492
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:44,440
Speaker 1: with drag grace that they did a Strangers with a

493
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 1: Candy Jenny Blank dance, So congratulations on missing out on

494
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:50,479
Speaker 1: the best television job. Yeah, I was. We were at

495
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 1: a bar with Josh Sharpe and when they broke when

496
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,400
Speaker 1: when RuPaul on the show broke that to the girl,

497
00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 1: she was like, and you'll have to do a choreographed

498
00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:01,120
Speaker 1: lipstick number two A Strangers at the Candy. They were

499
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:02,959
Speaker 1: like the whole mom step in the air and then

500
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 1: Josh Sharp texted me today he goes, I will never

501
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:09,879
Speaker 1: experience the joy of it was cathartic, will be the

502
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:13,359
Speaker 1: Strangers with Candy challenge, right. But anyway, so how it

503
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 1: went down was they to do the bookball and they

504
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,440
Speaker 1: had to do the first look, which was baby drag reel.

505
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 1: In this, I had to tell a story. So like

506
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:21,439
Speaker 1: the first one, they kind of came at is like

507
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,239
Speaker 1: baby versions of themselves and it was like narrated as

508
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 1: if it was a book. And then the second one was, um,

509
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,920
Speaker 1: that's my mom and they had to pay homage to

510
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 1: their own mother's and then the third one was um

511
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:38,399
Speaker 1: autobiographical extra Yeah, it was like and then like you

512
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:40,200
Speaker 1: come out and he had he had to use all

513
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:49,159
Speaker 1: books to make her outfit. Kim she yea and it

514
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 1: was all like RuPaul's books. Of course, like the whole time,

515
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 1: like when they were interviewing the judges, they were like

516
00:27:54,000 --> 00:28:04,360
Speaker 1: the author of this, David was feature. But anyway, Kim

517
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,920
Speaker 1: she one because she's just like such an artist. And

518
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 1: there was an all her looks yea, and she was

519
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,440
Speaker 1: the only want to do that. All those queens like,

520
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:16,239
Speaker 1: that's the person I trust to make a dress one

521
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:19,399
Speaker 1: of those interesting looks like that. Naomi Smallest looked amazing

522
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 1: on the runway, just turned it out. Her that's my

523
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:28,200
Speaker 1: mama look was amazing. And Bob had been giving the

524
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:31,639
Speaker 1: challenge to go ultra glam and I think during the

525
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 1: construction of his dress it fell apart, and so he

526
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:37,399
Speaker 1: had to go out with a short dress, and so

527
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 1: he was in the bottom two with Derek who tried

528
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 1: to like dot peplum corset. Oh yeah, and then all

529
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 1: the girls tell you as a woman, peplum is never

530
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 1: a good choice. There you go. And then all the

531
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 1: girls were like, you need to block your eyebrows, you

532
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 1: need to change your eyebrows because that's just making you

533
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 1: look like Brittany no matter what. And Derek was like, okay, fine,

534
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 1: but I don't know how to do that right, And

535
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 1: so they were trying to give her all these tips,

536
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 1: but then she ended up looking in saying horrible, and

537
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 1: then her her drag looks for the running weren't even

538
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 1: didn't even make sense for her that for her baby

539
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 1: drag we illness. She came out dressed as Ariel, like

540
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 1: that's not a baby, and then it was so clear,

541
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 1: and then the lip sync was between Bob and Derek

542
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 1: and thank you. I know Derek was coasting, but then

543
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 1: there was like an emotional moment at the end where

544
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 1: Bob turns to Derek and was like, I respect this person.

545
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 1: Bob has been such a star this whole time, Like

546
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 1: really every single challenge proven what kind of star. And

547
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 1: so you said before we got to the air that

548
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 1: you kind of you're very disenchanted with the show because

549
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 1: Thorgy is gone. Yeah, I love Thorgy. I just like

550
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 1: when I saw Derek's Day and Thorgy leave, I was upset.

551
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 1: I know that that was not a great episode for

552
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 1: for Thorgy, and like I get it, I get it.

553
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 1: You know. You know what, if Thorgie had stayed on

554
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 1: for this challenge, it would have been very intense for

555
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 1: her to do her her mother. Her mother passed away,

556
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 1: so that would have been Honestly, I bet the producers

557
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 1: were kind of banking on some of that because they

558
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 1: always do that. They have like one part that's emotional

559
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,959
Speaker 1: in the episode, it's oh yeah, I mean, everyone got

560
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 1: a sob story that there were several there were several

561
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 1: instanes in the stories are always so incredible on that show.

562
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 1: I mean, this one was exceptional. Naomi has a great moment, Bob.

563
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 1: Bob has a great moment, which never see that. I

564
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 1: can't wait to watch it. It's been a great season.

565
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 1: I don't mean to do so. I just when it

566
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 1: was up, and then I've been I have to watch

567
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 1: them online. And then it was up to like, you know,

568
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 1: two am, and I'm like, well, I'll wait out. But

569
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 1: great episode and the top four for people of color wonderful,

570
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 1: all really different, all very different. Yeah, that's so. I

571
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 1: think it's a true toss up. Like I obviously have

572
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 1: my allegiances to Bob, but what I was saying today

573
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 1: was I would be kind of thrilled to see him. Yeah,

574
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 1: I love them all. They're all great. I think Kim

575
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 1: is like so set. I think Kim is like set

576
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 1: for life, and I really think Bob is set for life.

577
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 1: I think cheech winning would like change her whole life,

578
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 1: and I therefore I might be pulling for her just

579
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 1: because I know that Bob and camer are fine. It's

580
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 1: like a true earned underdog narrative where it's like, no, like,

581
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 1: you have grown so much, you deserved this. You you,

582
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 1: you've exceeded everyone's expectations of you, like you deserved this.

583
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 1: Well anyway, speaking of us deserving, Oh my god, let

584
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 1: me tell you, um, where were you when I was

585
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 1: at a show at the Annoyance Theater and then immediately

586
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 1: when it got out, I ran to Vanessa's dumplings, got

587
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 1: a to go order, took an uber home. He did

588
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 1: not stay to eat the dump did not say. I

589
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,240
Speaker 1: pulled out my end. Reception at Vanessa's was not good,

590
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 1: and I kept trying to download my HBO now app,

591
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 1: kept trying to log in mobile using your data on

592
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 1: mobile use? Oh my god, what sacrifices. I made sacrifices.

593
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 1: So then i'm When I got in the car, I

594
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 1: finally loaded it up, and I watched about half of

595
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 1: it in the car, not half of it, like twenty

596
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 1: minutes of it in the car, got out, ran up

597
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 1: to my apartment. My roommate was using the TV. I said, Mike,

598
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 1: I have to watch this. It's really important that I

599
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 1: watched this, and he understood, he obliged, and then I

600
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 1: watched the whole thing. He watched parts of it with

601
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 1: me and he left and then he left to go

602
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 1: to his girlfriend's house. But I was and I filled

603
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 1: him and I was like, well, so far the narrative

604
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 1: is that she's been you know, jay Z has cheated

605
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 1: on her, and he was like wow, And so then

606
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 1: we watched and then right at the point where she's

607
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 1: sort of starting to forgive him was when my roommate

608
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 1: was like, m hmmm, it kind of takes the bite

609
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 1: out of the message of of well, fuck you for

610
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 1: cheating on me if you're going back to him, and

611
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 1: I was like no, I like, Mike, don't don't say

612
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 1: that yet, Like, let's just like, let me just finish this.

613
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 1: And then by the end of it, I had so

614
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 1: many conflicting emotions. That was where I was, what about you? Well,

615
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 1: funnily enough, I was UM at a Tanya Harding Nancy

616
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 1: Carragin museum dedicated to the Olsen twins at this point,

617
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 1: doing candle lighting ceremony channeling UM show them claimed to

618
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 1: bring back her past lives. So everyone was doing culture. Wait,

619
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 1: the guy who runs that, Matt Harkins. Matt Harkins his

620
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 1: like because her sister in law works in my office

621
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 1: and she's very sweet, but she will not stop talking

622
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 1: about the herding. So if you're listening to the spot

623
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 1: in the next week and a half, it's in Brooklyn.

624
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 1: It's phenomenal and it's now just for yes, so that

625
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 1: stuff still exists, but it was in their hallway and

626
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 1: their apartment and so now this they've rented out a

627
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 1: really crappy pediatric medical center. Makes it so funny because

628
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 1: you go in and it's like a museum with gorgeous art.

629
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 1: This woman, I think her name is Laura Collins. She

630
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 1: paints the Olsen Twins Lisa vander Pump like these stars

631
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 1: covering their faces and they're gorgeous paintings and they go

632
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 1: for like nine dred bucks and people are buying them

633
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 1: like they're actually running an art gallery right now, and

634
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 1: there's installations and they're the funniest. So they go through

635
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 1: and they show you and they're such charismatic, wonderful people.

636
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 1: So it's a great experience. Um and they're not doing

637
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 1: it for money, like they're just taking dollar donations if

638
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 1: you have it, but it's all about just wine to

639
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 1: make it. It's really fun. Anyway, So I was there,

640
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 1: they had me do like a candle lighting ceremony to

641
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:16,319
Speaker 1: like rid the place of haters and toxins and so forth.

642
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,279
Speaker 1: And we watched Sholem mcclaimed videos in the dark and

643
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 1: you were I was doing art was just like the

644
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 1: three of that, Like there was like no one there.

645
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:26,320
Speaker 1: So then when I knew Lemonade was coming, I was like,

646
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 1: I have to go home, Like I'm here and I'm

647
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 1: like in the moment, So what I do. I went

648
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:30,719
Speaker 1: home and I found out that my roommate was having

649
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 1: people over. It was very loud, that was drinking, and

650
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 1: so I was trying to watch Lemonade and it was

651
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 1: just like not right. And then when they left, I

652
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:39,359
Speaker 1: sat down and I watched it, and um, I feel

653
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 1: like I was a little bit shaken. And I was

654
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:44,320
Speaker 1: also the text had already come in with like this stuff,

655
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 1: so it was I was already my perceptions were shaped

656
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 1: before You're you're You're You're sad about that a little bit.

657
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 1: I kind of think. I love the way that it

658
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 1: felt like a tune in experience, which we don't have

659
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 1: that much anymore, and like all of our friends were

660
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 1: going to be watching at the same time and talking

661
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 1: about it and we were gonna share it. So I

662
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 1: was like a little sad that I hadn't delay and

663
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 1: a little sad that people experienced before me and like

664
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 1: already kind of like telling me I feel a little bit.

665
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:15,399
Speaker 1: Not not anyone's fault, but it was my fault because

666
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 1: I had planned the I mean, I had to do

667
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:22,720
Speaker 1: the candle. There's no true there's no true appointment television anymore.

668
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 1: It's true. But anyway, well, I literally cleared the night.

669
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 1: I was like, we're going to do this because I

670
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 1: just remembered what Beyonce the album was to me, and

671
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 1: I'm like the fact that this could potentially be happening again,

672
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 1: as like this could be like the music that satiates

673
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:45,320
Speaker 1: me for like like let's do it and let me

674
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:51,360
Speaker 1: tell you. I within within fifteen seconds, I knew this

675
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 1: is this was good. That like amazing, Um first verse

676
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 1: of Pray You Catch Me, which like goes on so

677
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 1: long and like doesn't necessarily have like a repetitive like pattern.

678
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 1: I was like, this is amazing. Henry. I was like

679
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:08,800
Speaker 1: I turned to him, I was like, is this amazing.

680
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, this is amazing, and like every song

681
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 1: was so good and when it became clear that it

682
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 1: was about that. I mean, I thought she surprised us

683
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:29,359
Speaker 1: so many times, but this was culture a little bit

684
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:30,800
Speaker 1: if we want to wait to get into it, but

685
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:34,839
Speaker 1: I want to just like, there are the truthers who

686
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 1: believe that this is all pr that he didn't even

687
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 1: maybe he didn't even cheat, or that this was all

688
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:43,880
Speaker 1: a constructed story, and that he's the proof being one

689
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 1: that he's making money off title, so this whole thing

690
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 1: is about him and how bad he is, and then

691
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 1: you go download the album on his service and he

692
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 1: makes money. And then the other thing being that, like

693
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 1: it just was so perfectly crafted that and then she

694
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 1: forgives him in the like, is that all constructed? I

695
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:08,400
Speaker 1: think that there's a lot of assumptions about the timeline

696
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 1: of of when she went through this. I think it's

697
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 1: possible that she could have gone through this years ago,

698
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. She might not have known

699
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 1: how to talk about something like this until much later.

700
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 1: We don't know if he cheated on her in two

701
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 1: thousand six or two fourteen. We don't know if it's

702
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 1: related to the Solange punching incidentally, right, and like who

703
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 1: knows anything. We don't know, But the thing is like

704
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:37,439
Speaker 1: in regards to whether or not she actually went through

705
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:40,279
Speaker 1: it or whether or not, it's it's her actual experience.

706
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 1: Here's my perspective on it. We're like making that important?

707
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 1: Why is that important? The art that she made or

708
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 1: whoever was a part of making it, it's incredible, And

709
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 1: like they we didn't need to have used to justify,

710
00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 1: Like we didn't need to know what Janice Joplin went

711
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 1: through to to get what I mean, Like, I just

712
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:06,799
Speaker 1: it's this thing now where because someone's a celebrity, which

713
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 1: if you're going to put out music, movies, beyond television, whatever,

714
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 1: you're going to be a celebrity. It's like, because that's true,

715
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 1: we have to like this has to be fact. Yeah,

716
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:19,800
Speaker 1: why does there have to be a purity test? Or

717
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 1: like why does it have to like there's authenticity is

718
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 1: such as stupid irrelevant concept when it comes to something

719
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 1: like this, Like it's I I think, I mean, if

720
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 1: we're talking about it, whether or not it's autobiographical, I

721
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:37,240
Speaker 1: think it's still so good and it's still so true

722
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:40,320
Speaker 1: to I don't know, like that that journey of like

723
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:43,400
Speaker 1: forgiveness or whatever. And some people say that it's equally

724
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 1: about Tina Knowles, about how Beyonce's father and just what

725
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:52,240
Speaker 1: she's seeing big picture, like the whole history of experience

726
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 1: being a black one in America, and it's not just

727
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:56,760
Speaker 1: about her, and in the end, it's much bigger picture.

728
00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 1: So maybe it doesn't matter, like you guys are saying,

729
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 1: if it's strictly true or biographical, it could also just

730
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:05,799
Speaker 1: be a piece of art that we can take as

731
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 1: a story and is extremely compelling, beautiful. And I think

732
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 1: the fact that we're having this discussion means that it

733
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 1: is so personal and so it's so well executed and

734
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:22,400
Speaker 1: it's performed so well that the fact that we're debating

735
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 1: it to this extent means that it's succeeded on every level.

736
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:30,799
Speaker 1: And I think that it's shrewd of her to use

737
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:33,840
Speaker 1: her actual husband in the video and to show clips

738
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:36,279
Speaker 1: of her father and her as a child, because she

739
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 1: knows that everyone knows who they are. She knows that

740
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:41,839
Speaker 1: this is for people that get the narrative or think

741
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 1: that they could get the narrative, and it's just driving

742
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 1: this thing home. And actually, like I I believe and

743
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 1: enjoy it either way, because I believe as much as

744
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 1: it's about her, it's also about the experience of and

745
00:39:57,880 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 1: I obviously can't speak to us, and none of us

746
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 1: can speak to us, but I feel that Lemonade is

747
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 1: about the experience of being a black woman. And that's

748
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:07,440
Speaker 1: why I think it's so great that it ends with formation.

749
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 1: She's like, I've been through all this stuff. Many of

750
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 1: us have been through all this stuff, and we're still

751
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 1: going to go on and became MB soldiers and we're

752
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 1: gonna be proud, and we're gonna get in formation. And

753
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:21,400
Speaker 1: it's just like it's about the experience of being someone

754
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 1: that's always tossed aside, even by the men in their lives,

755
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:30,759
Speaker 1: and that's something very unique to her perspective. And I

756
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:33,359
Speaker 1: don't it doesn't matter to me whether it's a fact

757
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:35,880
Speaker 1: or not. And I think she, Yeah, she succeeded in

758
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 1: sort of underlining her thesis. I'm just kind of using

759
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,320
Speaker 1: such a not just language, but I feel like she

760
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:44,880
Speaker 1: was just trying to make a statement on how like

761
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 1: misogyny and racism are at their most like powerful even

762
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 1: in the intimacies of a marriage, right, And that's like

763
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 1: all those those those Malcolm X quotes were all just

764
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 1: like super super relevant and pointing it and I think, um, god, yeah,

765
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:01,959
Speaker 1: I think it's it's it's such a good piece of work.

766
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 1: It really is away like this is the girl who

767
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:08,800
Speaker 1: was bootylicious. That's what she's become. This it's such a

768
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:11,880
Speaker 1: short amount of time. And not to diminish the value

769
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 1: of those amazing songs that she did before Beyonce, which

770
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 1: really was a turning point, and that visual album, I mean,

771
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:24,799
Speaker 1: I lost madam mind wow, I'm still not okay, I'm

772
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 1: still recovering. I mean that was I think that was

773
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 1: truly that that album was about something entirely different too,

774
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:34,880
Speaker 1: because it was about really more sexuality and owning what sexuality.

775
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 1: So funny, I was just telling my best you were

776
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:40,439
Speaker 1: talking about Beyonce, were like we were just debating whether

777
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 1: she can have sex with her husband. Like the debate

778
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:45,880
Speaker 1: last album was like is she a feminist if she

779
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 1: has sex? And it feels like that was so long ago,

780
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 1: that was two years ago. It's like crazy how much

781
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 1: we were holding her under that scrutiny and now it's

782
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 1: a whole different thing. It's always going to be something else,

783
00:41:56,560 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 1: but she keeps evolving so quickly. It's so exciting, it's

784
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 1: so funny because people like Piers Morgan. Do you see

785
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 1: what he said? Like he's literally mad at her for

786
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:08,839
Speaker 1: having because she has thoughts and opinions about the fact

787
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:11,839
Speaker 1: that she is black. Specifically, he was mad about how

788
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 1: she exploited all these mothers of the TV. Exploiting the

789
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 1: situation is literally what he does to everything that he's

790
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 1: a commentator, He's a talking hat. He exploits everything for

791
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 1: his own personal game. Who is he to talk? He's

792
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:31,360
Speaker 1: an idiot, total idiot. What is he doing crazy? Honestly,

793
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 1: like to speak to something that like he's not intellectually

794
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 1: are creatively capable of doing it? Anyway? I know he's

795
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:42,800
Speaker 1: the worst, and like just everyone's It just brings me

796
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:44,360
Speaker 1: back to the whole Super Bowl thing. If he was like,

797
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:47,959
Speaker 1: oh she what hypocrite? Oh my god, wait a minute,

798
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:49,400
Speaker 1: Can I tell you guys a story? I don't think

799
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 1: I don't even think I told you this what We

800
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 1: were doing a story pirate show at Series x M,

801
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:56,360
Speaker 1: and we were in this waiting area, like you know,

802
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 1: they put you back into this area with like some

803
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 1: food and like and stuff, and Bowen and I are

804
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 1: in are in the We do shows for kids, and

805
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 1: we do shows on the radio. So we had the

806
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:07,840
Speaker 1: Sirius XM and there's like a little green room, the

807
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 1: green room where people said before they do the shows,

808
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 1: and they go and it's a giant TV. And on

809
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 1: the TV was TMZ and then there's a there's a

810
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:17,319
Speaker 1: gentleman sitting on the on the chair next to us

811
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 1: and he's just like on his phone and he's a

812
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 1: very stylish guy. And then I look at him and

813
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 1: I recognize him, like like I have seen him somewhere.

814
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:26,359
Speaker 1: And then I turned it and then on the TV

815
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:28,479
Speaker 1: on TMZ is this is right after the super Bowl.

816
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 1: They're talking about, oh it is Beyonce anti Police or whatever,

817
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 1: and then this guy is just kind of like shaking

818
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:37,479
Speaker 1: his head. And then and then right at that moment,

819
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:40,839
Speaker 1: it clicks. He's the guy in the exo video who's

820
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:44,319
Speaker 1: on the roller coaster with her and he's Beyonce's stylist.

821
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:47,320
Speaker 1: I recognized him and I go, Hi, are you? And

822
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:49,800
Speaker 1: then I at first I did some very sneaky googling,

823
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:52,880
Speaker 1: like I need to get his name. I can't just

824
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:54,840
Speaker 1: be like, are you Beyonce's stylist? I just wanted to

825
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:58,880
Speaker 1: like pay him the decency to like so it's like

826
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 1: are you and I forget I forget his name. I'm

827
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 1: so sorry you guys. But then I was like are

828
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 1: you this and this and that? And he goes, oh yeah,

829
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:07,279
Speaker 1: and I know so your Beyonce's stylist and he's like

830
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 1: m And then everyone in the room like all the

831
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 1: other story parts like what and like right as this

832
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:15,360
Speaker 1: fucking missive against Beyonce was being heard on TV, and

833
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 1: I was like, what do you think about this? And

834
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 1: he was like he's like, it's nuts, Like it's it's

835
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:24,800
Speaker 1: not like like he styled those women he styled like.

836
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 1: He was like, it's it's a reference that's not a stag.

837
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:30,320
Speaker 1: Like he was like, I forgot what he said exactly,

838
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 1: but he was just like he didn't put too many

839
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:33,840
Speaker 1: words to it either. He was just like he just

840
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:36,400
Speaker 1: didn't Carrey. He was like, no, it's just ridiculous. Everyone's

841
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:38,400
Speaker 1: blowing this out of her port funny and he was

842
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:40,800
Speaker 1: there for a show like Upstairs, and I was I

843
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:42,360
Speaker 1: was really star strick. I was like, you're in the

844
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 1: US video. I mean, also, her style is her stylist.

845
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:51,880
Speaker 1: That's crazy culture stuff. I think what what inspired me

846
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 1: first of all about both Super Bowl performances for her,

847
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 1: it was like, look how hard you could work and

848
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 1: be so talented and you can do anything like you

849
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 1: nail it. Those are such when I need inspiration. I

850
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 1: watched those and I can even though I can't. You're

851
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 1: You're gonna like, literally, your silhouette's gonna light up in

852
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 1: fire one day at the super Bowl. You know that?

853
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 1: That is what I picture when I have to walk

854
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:17,359
Speaker 1: into a room that's high pressure, and I also walk

855
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 1: around like that. I noticed my stance is constantly. I'm

856
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 1: like Jaunty on the Hip with do you do you

857
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 1: stomp the runway on the street in New York? Oh?

858
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 1: I stomp, Yeah, I stomped the runway quite a bit.

859
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:32,279
Speaker 1: I do what? What? What? What was it Chet who

860
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:35,360
Speaker 1: said that I did a figure on the box pods.

861
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 1: But here's Carrie Bradshaw. I strut. I'm a strutter. Shut up, Carrie,

862
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 1: what you're doing now? I mean? You must be that

863
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 1: I know. So she doesn't. She doesn't play down her

864
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 1: intelligence or creativity for other people. She's going to come

865
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:56,720
Speaker 1: out and do what's right for her as an artist,

866
00:45:56,840 --> 00:46:00,840
Speaker 1: and she's not gonna worry. As far as I understand

867
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:04,240
Speaker 1: about the idiots who are going to misinterpret, like Lemonade

868
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 1: is hard to interpret, and if you go through the

869
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:08,279
Speaker 1: lyrics of the song, they're loaded with meaning and the

870
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:12,880
Speaker 1: poetry she's poetry, Like that's way more she It's a

871
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 1: commercial release with Lemonade in Times Square and go to

872
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 1: HBO and it's free for everyone. But she's not going

873
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:20,920
Speaker 1: to dumb it down. She's going to make us come

874
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 1: to her level. And I'm so impressed by that. And

875
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 1: this is something that I've been thinking about for a

876
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 1: few days, and like, I would really encourage everyone to

877
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 1: truly look herself in the face and ask herself this question.

878
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 1: Everyone who says, well, she's not writing those songs, she's

879
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:40,399
Speaker 1: not creatively involved in that, I want everyone to actually think,

880
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 1: how much of the reason you're saying that is because

881
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:48,840
Speaker 1: she's a black woman. So how much of your inherent

882
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 1: bias you don't even realize is coming out because she's

883
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 1: a black woman who talks with maybe a Southern accent,

884
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 1: who like maybe presents herself in a certain way. How

885
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:00,880
Speaker 1: much of your bias is causing you to say, well,

886
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:04,720
Speaker 1: she can't possibly be creative. Someone I saw some idiot

887
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:06,839
Speaker 1: and I don't know how I'm Facebook friends with him

888
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:10,400
Speaker 1: post at right after Lemonade came out. Oh well, Beyonce

889
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 1: came up with a great new album. Will listen to

890
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 1: her open her mouth and speak. And then he like

891
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 1: commented on on his own fucking status like, um, oh yeah,

892
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 1: she has three thoughts in her head total or something

893
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 1: like just it's like, you know what Kanye does this album?

894
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 1: No one says everyone else does this album. Even Taylor Swift,

895
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:34,919
Speaker 1: like she she's in control of her product, and wow,

896
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:37,880
Speaker 1: what an amazing young songwriter. Can't believe how young she is.

897
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 1: I can't believe how in control of her brand is

898
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:44,240
Speaker 1: what it's Beyonce. It's like despite you know, people spreading

899
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:47,239
Speaker 1: rumors about you know, her poaching material or whatever, blah

900
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 1: blah blah. Whoever, like everyone's a genius and as the intel,

901
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:53,760
Speaker 1: everyone has the scoop, but like you're saying this about

902
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 1: really only her, and like the only other woman in

903
00:47:57,480 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 1: the industry who I can think of the people talk

904
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 1: about that way who's on that level is Rihanna. She well,

905
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 1: she obviously doesn't write anything, she doesn't do anything, blah

906
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:08,760
Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah. And it's just like you wouldn't

907
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 1: say this about is the hardest working woman in entertainment.

908
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 1: I mean, there's no question about it. And she and

909
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:18,880
Speaker 1: when Beyonce came, when her last album came out, she

910
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 1: put out this series of like just the little confessional

911
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 1: interviews that were really nice, and she just she was

912
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:26,439
Speaker 1: just so good in them, and she's just talking about

913
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 1: making the album and she's just so so articulate and intelligent,

914
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 1: and it's like, no, you guys are choosing, you guys

915
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 1: are seeing what you want to see, and that like,

916
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 1: oh well, she's just dumb, like which doesn't even I

917
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:40,839
Speaker 1: think her her interviews from the past haven't been great,

918
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 1: but the work like really pops and says so much more.

919
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:47,600
Speaker 1: And some people just also like aren't interview people. She

920
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 1: doesn't feel comfortable doing that, and like, I think if

921
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:54,399
Speaker 1: you actually look like I remember years ago when when

922
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 1: I think she was on a promotional tour for maybe

923
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 1: it was like b Day and it was after that

924
00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 1: and like her clothing line was coming out her Tina

925
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:04,279
Speaker 1: Knows Clothing I was coming out. She was on all

926
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 1: the talk shows with her mother. She I just think

927
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:11,440
Speaker 1: she genuinely might not be that comfortable doing that. I

928
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:13,360
Speaker 1: remember years ago, in the start of her career, they

929
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 1: were trying to have her host like the VMA's Red

930
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:18,600
Speaker 1: Carpet and Ship. It didn't seem right, it didn't seem

931
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 1: like she should be doing. But like crazy manager that

932
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 1: was her father that she eventually dumped, which is her decision.

933
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 1: And like, I just don't know how much will do

934
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 1: you think is being pulled over your eyes? Like is

935
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 1: everything a conspiracy? Now? Like, I don't know. I see

936
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 1: a lot of similarities between her as someone who doesn't

937
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 1: like the press, but it's a hard worker with another

938
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 1: female figure. But we won't talk. You're talking, I'm talking

939
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 1: about I don't And what are we talking. We're talking

940
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:52,400
Speaker 1: about Hillary Week for women in a big week for

941
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 1: women haters, let's give it. Hillary was on a podcast

942
00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 1: off message on Politico and it was such a good

943
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:03,440
Speaker 1: She's she's so this is the most relaxed I've ever

944
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:05,880
Speaker 1: heard her. And she was just like being real. She

945
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:08,719
Speaker 1: was like, listen, I'm not a good I'm not good

946
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 1: at campaigning because I don't like to do it. And meanwhile,

947
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:16,360
Speaker 1: my like Bill Clinton, Barack Obama. She goes, they're so

948
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:18,239
Speaker 1: good at it because it's like music to them like

949
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:20,320
Speaker 1: they love to do it. They love to campaign and

950
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 1: get people together, and and and then she goes and

951
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 1: this is so important and I'm sorry we're on this

952
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 1: Hillary tangent. But she doesn't care. But she goes um

953
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 1: for the longest time, she says, for the longest time,

954
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 1: I had trouble saying that, making eye statements. She had

955
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 1: trouble making things like I want your I want you

956
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 1: to vote for me. She would only ever talk, She

957
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 1: was like, for the longest time, I would only ever

958
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:42,400
Speaker 1: talk in terms of we, in terms of us, in

959
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 1: terms of or I could. I have no problem talking

960
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:47,239
Speaker 1: about he, she at us whatever. But she had such

961
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 1: a hard time like making it about her because that's

962
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 1: just what she She internalized that over years and years

963
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 1: and years of being a woman who's constantly scrutinized, like

964
00:50:57,200 --> 00:51:00,239
Speaker 1: she's not good at this because she doesn't care for it,

965
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 1: because it's not that important and it's not natural, right,

966
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:07,360
Speaker 1: The campaigning is not natural. It's not. If it is,

967
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 1: you're very close to an eaglemania. Look at the people

968
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 1: who are great campaigners, not Brack my love, but I

969
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 1: mean kind of like John Edwards and he's like real great.

970
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:17,719
Speaker 1: These are like these people who can go up and

971
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:19,759
Speaker 1: command a room and speak, but they're also kind of

972
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:22,920
Speaker 1: uh thinking about the kind of people that go for that.

973
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 1: I mean, you know what I mean. And you know,

974
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:29,400
Speaker 1: Hillary being at the level that she is is a

975
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:32,480
Speaker 1: big symptom of her being closely related to someone that

976
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 1: was good at that. I think it was late in

977
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:37,879
Speaker 1: her life that she may be thought, maybe I want

978
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:40,760
Speaker 1: to run for officer actually be president of the United States.

979
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:44,359
Speaker 1: I don't know for sure that before being first Lady

980
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:47,120
Speaker 1: she was thinking that way. I mean, this isn't some

981
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 1: bullshit House of cards scenario. I don't think which people

982
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:53,480
Speaker 1: really wanted to make it into that. But it's like,

983
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:56,320
Speaker 1: how much are you going to believe that everything is

984
00:51:56,360 --> 00:52:00,040
Speaker 1: a conspiracy until you drive yourself fucking crazy? But the

985
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 1: Beyonce stuff, it is it's like like you're threatened by

986
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 1: someone who doesn't fit your idea of power obtaining power,

987
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 1: and you have to create another story around how they

988
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 1: got there. It's crazy and it's like it's it's like,

989
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 1: so you're saying, so what people are saying is that

990
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 1: literally nothing that comes out of her mouth is genuine.

991
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 1: Why do you think she wants to be president? Also

992
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:25,239
Speaker 1: she does carry hot sauce and her fucking that is true. Yeah,

993
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:26,960
Speaker 1: there's a lot of content like why are you even

994
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:29,400
Speaker 1: talking about not not us? I mean just like why

995
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:32,400
Speaker 1: are people upset about that? I mean well, I mean

996
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:35,279
Speaker 1: the rest of that interview that she that she did

997
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 1: for that for that quote was like some host was

998
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 1: like calling her out. They were like, well, aren't you

999
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:41,279
Speaker 1: are you trying to pan her to black voters and

1000
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:43,400
Speaker 1: she was like, well is it working? Like she was

1001
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 1: nervous and I don't know. She like like again she's

1002
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 1: not good at campaign. Again, God forbids she make any

1003
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 1: joke too. I mean it's like it's like all of

1004
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:53,839
Speaker 1: a sudden, like Joe Biden is the only politician who

1005
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 1: can have a sense of humor nowadays. Like it's it's

1006
00:52:56,719 --> 00:53:00,440
Speaker 1: just like ridiculous. Shut up again. I just want to

1007
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 1: tell everyone that's like talking sure about her to shut up, Like,

1008
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 1: to shut up. You can support Bernie without dragging you

1009
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 1: really care and you look so stupid. And I'm honestly

1010
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 1: it makes me so mad to this point because now

1011
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:16,759
Speaker 1: everyone posting these Bernie status is you're you're none of

1012
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 1: you are succeeding in doing it without dragging Hillary, and

1013
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 1: you don't really have that good of a reason. You're

1014
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:26,800
Speaker 1: not backed up, and you're and it's it's crazy and

1015
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:30,400
Speaker 1: it's gotten so ugly, like shut Bernie voted in the

1016
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 1: prison bill that the Clintons pushed to through Congress. Anyway,

1017
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 1: I wonder if Hillary and will Beionce come out for Hillary,

1018
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 1: I think, But it was private. I heard they were

1019
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 1: like recording. There was a video that was taped of

1020
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 1: them that exists in the world. Maybe she'll wait till

1021
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:50,080
Speaker 1: it's closer to the election. Yeah, sure, maybe, I mean

1022
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:53,440
Speaker 1: I always, I mean tell her Slift could never come

1023
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:55,319
Speaker 1: out and support a candidate, because I think she's got

1024
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 1: so many would come out and say she didn't support Trump.

1025
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:01,640
Speaker 1: I'm sure, here's my reason why you shouldn't vote for Trump,

1026
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:04,719
Speaker 1: like whatever politics aside. Look at your supporters. You have

1027
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:09,160
Speaker 1: Aaron Carter, like who else? It's just like gross people

1028
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, there was there was another one. Um,

1029
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:16,560
Speaker 1: I forget fucking Azalea Banks, who had a lot of

1030
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 1: Donald Trump. But she's also doing it for like burn

1031
00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:24,279
Speaker 1: the world reasons, but like fun, we're having fun with

1032
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:32,719
Speaker 1: that fun Omarossa. You gotta there's the classic interview of

1033
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:37,280
Speaker 1: Omarossa and Wendy Williams. You ever seen that on Wendy?

1034
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:43,360
Speaker 1: That was the shade called everything that Oh the shade tree. Alright,

1035
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 1: p I'm the Laura calling it out. I'm saying, we

1036
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:49,279
Speaker 1: need the shade tree to live and where is it?

1037
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 1: I need another in the shade Laura act, I speak

1038
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:59,320
Speaker 1: for the shade tree. We need um. What was Wendy

1039
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 1: Williams came about her What a moment for her when

1040
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:04,799
Speaker 1: that video came back of her actually talking about all

1041
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:07,919
Speaker 1: that jay Z Beyonce stuff and being extremely accurate after

1042
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:11,360
Speaker 1: the elevator, she was like, here's exactly what happened, and

1043
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 1: she talked about how at the met gala, uh that

1044
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:19,840
Speaker 1: Solange saw jay Z with Rachel and was very upset

1045
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:21,600
Speaker 1: and the reason why they were in the elevator is

1046
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 1: because and she didn't do it beyond it did in moves,

1047
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:26,880
Speaker 1: because Beyonce knew that there was a camera and that

1048
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:30,400
Speaker 1: Solange was writing my interview and she called the whole thing.

1049
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:33,160
Speaker 1: She said literally like shot for shot. Here's why this

1050
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:39,560
Speaker 1: is Wendy Williams. She was she's our Nancy Drew and

1051
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:44,600
Speaker 1: that Yeah, that's a great video's little face. He's just like, oh,

1052
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:48,759
Speaker 1: Rachel Roy. I had to design. Um uh. I work

1053
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:51,799
Speaker 1: at this company that sells home furnishings and we get

1054
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:57,600
Speaker 1: a lot of these partnerships with like fucking cannon fodder celebrities.

1055
00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:01,040
Speaker 1: Um Rachel Roy was one of them, and we did

1056
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:03,279
Speaker 1: we did an office makeover for her, and I had

1057
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Speaker 1: to design to design, like the hero design spots for

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Speaker 1: them to fuss contact of the affair. I'm dropping this

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Speaker 1: Culture News brief. Team Rachel Roy is Team Rachel Roy,

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00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:25,120
Speaker 1: Rachel Ray. I want, I want like a big bee hive.

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00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:27,480
Speaker 1: Is not as smart as they should be, but I

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00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:31,240
Speaker 1: think it's karmically. It's it's so satisfying because Rachel Rachel

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00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:33,279
Speaker 1: Ray is apparently a monster. I've heard that too. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I believe that Kelly Rip was a monster. I love her,

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Speaker 1: And I tell you something, I've heard some shady s.

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Speaker 1: My sister worked on that show and she says that

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00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:45,960
Speaker 1: she's amazing, and she well, she wasn't like she was amazing,

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Speaker 1: but she was like, yeah, Kelly RiPP is very nice.

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Speaker 1: You know what, Maybe she's very nice. I heard I

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Speaker 1: heard an account from my from my aunt. This is

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00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:58,600
Speaker 1: a fun story. My aunt. My my aunt nuncle have

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Speaker 1: a good a bit of money and they their daughter

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00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:05,400
Speaker 1: raised horses. She was like an equestrian, so she trained

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Speaker 1: um at this I guess equestrian school and they were

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Speaker 1: getting ready for like the competition. So like Kelly Rippa's

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Speaker 1: daughter also rais and so like I guess they were

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Speaker 1: too competing horse schools. So like all the moms are

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00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:25,120
Speaker 1: there watching like the meat or whatever. I guess. It's like,

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Speaker 1: what is it the Derby. It's called the Derby, by

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Speaker 1: the way, we had to say, we're wearing some brim hats.

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00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:36,040
Speaker 1: Speaking of derby, Janey looks stunning in her my head

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00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:38,760
Speaker 1: is so big that it's just like a thimble on

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00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:41,360
Speaker 1: a ball. It would be, it would be, it would

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00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:44,120
Speaker 1: be a wrong thing if like it looked good, because

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Speaker 1: we're particularly we all look stupid. Anyway, at the Derby,

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00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:52,600
Speaker 1: my my cousin went to go and her horse wants

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Speaker 1: to go jump over like a hurdle, which is part

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Speaker 1: of it. And the horse didn't make it over the hurdle,

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Speaker 1: and my cousin got them from the horse, and like

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Speaker 1: for a second was like kind of unconscious. It's just

1091
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:05,920
Speaker 1: like the simple life and the Olsen twins on that

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00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:09,000
Speaker 1: one episode of Full House. It was back around let

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00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:12,680
Speaker 1: so basically like Christine and my cousin was still from

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00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:13,880
Speaker 1: the horse and hit her head and was like, oh,

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00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:16,160
Speaker 1: I guess unconscious for a minute, and of course my

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00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:18,800
Speaker 1: aunt is freaked out, and Kelly Rippa apparently made like

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Speaker 1: a bitchy comment about that's why you don't train it

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00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 1: like wildwood or something. But like but like honestly, my

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Speaker 1: apparently turned around to give her the business about like

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Speaker 1: her body or something. Likely went for like in a

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00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:39,440
Speaker 1: way that like those women would really not want to

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Speaker 1: become attack a woman's Oh my god, that's crazy. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's what I heard about Rippa. But also she did

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Speaker 1: appear to be very cool. Did you see like her

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Speaker 1: address today? She went on, she went on, and like

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Speaker 1: they gave her like a good solid five minutes to

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Speaker 1: address the audience, and she's seemed very cool. Certainly like

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00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:04,720
Speaker 1: couples that I keep in mind, hetero couples that I

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00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:09,240
Speaker 1: love to just like have them back and and rip up.

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Speaker 1: It was that like offensive him and like no, no,

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Speaker 1: you guys did it. It's like I don't know you

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00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:20,840
Speaker 1: did it. Just that's it's I mean, just kidding. I

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Speaker 1: did an improp show for little kids and I did

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Speaker 1: what could potentially be like an offensive Latin accent, but like,

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00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:33,200
Speaker 1: it's fine, they love I've done it. I've done that

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00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:35,040
Speaker 1: accent on the UCB Stage two and it was fine.

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00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:37,280
Speaker 1: I played like a European Bond fill in and I

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00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:39,120
Speaker 1: did like a Latin accident and it was fine. No

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00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:42,320
Speaker 1: one said anything to me. But honestly whatever, I'm just

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Speaker 1: gonna say this come for me. Culture does. But the

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00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:49,120
Speaker 1: only access I'm good at are ones that I'm not

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00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:52,600
Speaker 1: allowed to do. Yeah, that I can't do, like any

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Speaker 1: of the accents that do them all right now that

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00:59:57,480 --> 00:59:59,440
Speaker 1: I mean I do. He's like, okay, So the thing

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00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:03,720
Speaker 1: is like you should never ever do occur. I grew

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01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:05,920
Speaker 1: up on Long Island where everything was offensive and everything

1127
01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:10,360
Speaker 1: was also okay, so it's like, yeah, I live in

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Speaker 1: that gray area. But anyway, guys, what's the favorite track

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Speaker 1: on beyond Lemonade? Here we go? Oh you know what,

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Speaker 1: I just want to I just want to link Hillary

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01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:19,400
Speaker 1: and Beyonce one more time. Okay, stay with her husbands,

1132
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:23,480
Speaker 1: you know after infidelity? Yes they did, and that's tough

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Speaker 1: for me. It's tough. For me too, because can I

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Speaker 1: say something please? During sand Castles in Limonading the film,

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Speaker 1: I was a great song. I was shocked when they

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Speaker 1: cut to jay Z. It was shocking. It was maybe

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Speaker 1: not earned, That's what I'm saying, Like, up until that

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Speaker 1: point in the film, and I get I get that

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01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:46,080
Speaker 1: that song was like the inflection point in the in

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Speaker 1: the story. But I feel like, up until that point

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01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:51,440
Speaker 1: in the film, it was all about a woman's journey

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01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:56,360
Speaker 1: two through like these very Kubler Rossian stages of grief

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01:00:56,400 --> 01:00:59,000
Speaker 1: and acceptance or whatever. I'm looking through the track list

1144
01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:02,360
Speaker 1: right now to see what kind of proceeds that. It's

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01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:05,720
Speaker 1: Love Drought, Love Drought, which is an amazing song. I'll

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Speaker 1: get to that later. But so it's Daddy Lessons. So

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01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:10,720
Speaker 1: I feel like Daddy Lessons, so you have the whole

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Speaker 1: first five songs, which are like pretty angry, yeah, like

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Speaker 1: and it's sets a tone, and then Daddy Lessons is like, well,

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Speaker 1: let me look actually at my life and like how

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01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:23,040
Speaker 1: how things have shaken out? And I see what my

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01:01:23,160 --> 01:01:25,040
Speaker 1: father has done to my mother and maybe I married

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01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:27,280
Speaker 1: into the same thing, and I just I feel like

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01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:30,560
Speaker 1: that's kind of where it's going. Love drought. What does

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01:01:30,600 --> 01:01:33,480
Speaker 1: that song about? It's Um, it's it's like it's like,

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01:01:33,560 --> 01:01:35,880
Speaker 1: I know you're lying, but why because you and I

1157
01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:38,160
Speaker 1: can move we can move them out, and we can

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01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:40,320
Speaker 1: calm calm a war down. We can make it rain

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Speaker 1: on this love drought. Like the lyrics are excellent. Um,

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01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:46,520
Speaker 1: but I mean, yeah, so sand Castle's is like the

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Speaker 1: turning point in the in the movie. And for me, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was unearned what Janey said, like, it was just

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Speaker 1: it was all about and I guess it's placed well,

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Speaker 1: like I don't begrudge of that. I just I don't

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01:01:57,000 --> 01:01:58,240
Speaker 1: think j Z should have been in it at all

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01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:02,680
Speaker 1: because it's about women's journeys in but he's part of

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01:02:02,720 --> 01:02:04,840
Speaker 1: her journey. He's a huge part of her journey. And

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Speaker 1: I actually, this is where I'm going to take a

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Speaker 1: contrarian stance. I'm gonna say, you know, this is about

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Speaker 1: her first and foremost, but he is a part of her.

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Speaker 1: And I think that you know, it's it's up to her.

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Speaker 1: It's she is empowered to make the choice to forgive.

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01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:25,920
Speaker 1: And I think that she that that in and of

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01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:29,360
Speaker 1: itself is really hard, and I think yes, and again,

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01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:32,480
Speaker 1: another brave thing about lemonade. Is it opens her up

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01:02:32,640 --> 01:02:35,720
Speaker 1: to that criticism. I just love that we're talking about

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Speaker 1: this in the first place. Yeah, and that's why it's

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01:02:37,560 --> 01:02:40,720
Speaker 1: so great. It's because you know everyone has an opinion

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01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:43,520
Speaker 1: on what you do and that you either stand by

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01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:46,480
Speaker 1: your man or you fucking book it. And it's like this.

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Speaker 1: It is interesting to think about in the lens of

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01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:53,440
Speaker 1: Hillary because there's those people like Carly Fiorina and other

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01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:56,040
Speaker 1: idiots that are like, listen, if Bill Clinton did what

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01:02:56,160 --> 01:02:57,440
Speaker 1: did that to me? I would have left him a

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01:02:57,480 --> 01:02:59,640
Speaker 1: long time ago. That's why you can't trust her what

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01:02:59,800 --> 01:03:02,000
Speaker 1: she She's funked up and can't make decisions for herself.

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01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:05,600
Speaker 1: And then those people it was mid to late nineties,

1188
01:03:05,640 --> 01:03:08,920
Speaker 1: mind you, where it was very stand by your man

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01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:11,760
Speaker 1: and honestly, she's damned if she does, and she's damned

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Speaker 1: if she does, and with everything in her life, but

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01:03:15,160 --> 01:03:18,919
Speaker 1: especially that and now to think about this with Beyonce, Yeah,

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01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:21,320
Speaker 1: we can be upset, we can be mad, and I'm

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01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:23,840
Speaker 1: happy that we're angry at jay Z and not Rachel Roy,

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01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:28,240
Speaker 1: because let's be mad at him. Team Rachel Roy go

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01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:31,040
Speaker 1: out by an expensive skirt. But the thing is like

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01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:34,800
Speaker 1: she's opened her up to herself up to this criticism

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Speaker 1: and it that's that's that's brave. I'm not using that one.

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Speaker 1: It always sends her casting now because you've just ruined it. Also,

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Speaker 1: I just want to say one more thing about the

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Speaker 1: Hillary thing, because I think another way to look at

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01:03:48,360 --> 01:03:52,160
Speaker 1: her is to actually look at her supporters, her really

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01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:56,480
Speaker 1: ardent supporters in government. Um, there's an interview with Kirsten

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Speaker 1: Gillibrand that James Falter posted and then I reposted, and

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01:04:01,040 --> 01:04:05,840
Speaker 1: this is really a good interview, Like it's like maybe

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01:04:05,880 --> 01:04:09,479
Speaker 1: it's an hour, and she gets really emotional several times

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01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:13,720
Speaker 1: about the interview and she's really in Hillary's corner, and

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01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:17,080
Speaker 1: it feels so genuine and this is someone that knows

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Speaker 1: her And I would just encourage people to kind of

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01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:24,080
Speaker 1: like check that out, like because like I really think

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01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:26,760
Speaker 1: we're at a point now where we're refusing to educate ourselves.

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Speaker 1: Says to me, I'd vote for Elizabeth Warren. I'm going

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Speaker 1: to slap somebody. Here's the thing. Elizabeth Warren does not

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01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:40,320
Speaker 1: want to be president run for president, and she this

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Speaker 1: delusion people have that she's going to be chosen as

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Speaker 1: the VP. Let it go. She if she wanted to

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Speaker 1: be in the White House, she would have made the

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01:04:49,440 --> 01:04:51,600
Speaker 1: decision She's not going to put herself into place where

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Speaker 1: she's a heart beat away from the White House if

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Speaker 1: she doesn't want to be president. And it's a it's

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Speaker 1: a very telling choice of her not to endorse either Canada. Yeah,

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01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:02,000
Speaker 1: think so too. She would have she would have endorsed

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Speaker 1: Bernie eight years ago, like it was if she was

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Speaker 1: totally on board with him, because she has her reasons

1224
01:05:06,240 --> 01:05:09,080
Speaker 1: not to be. I think she genuinely is on the

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01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:11,320
Speaker 1: she I think she's on the right side of everything.

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Speaker 1: And I think, like I think you could, you can

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Speaker 1: make the argument that both of them as candidates have flaws.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they're both insane something something really. Elizabeth Warren's

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Speaker 1: is solange because she is right. She's Um Williams and

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Speaker 1: she punched. But imagine no, yeah, imagine actually rule number

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Speaker 1: ninety of culture Elizabeth Warren Z. Yeah, we actually are

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Speaker 1: going to be um creating here. How much close to

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Speaker 1: use that's a gift of Elizabeth Warren punching j Z.

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01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:53,080
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, it's gonna be um. But yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: the one thing that's really important to me in the

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Speaker 1: election and Kirsten Gillibrand gets really emotional about this is

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Speaker 1: guns and I'm sorry, Bernie, Bernie is not as good

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01:06:03,360 --> 01:06:05,760
Speaker 1: as Hillary on guns, and you can't convince me otherwise.

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01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:07,440
Speaker 1: I don't care about what you say about hiss NR.

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01:06:07,480 --> 01:06:11,880
Speaker 1: I rating it's it's I don't know, no, trying to

1241
01:06:11,880 --> 01:06:13,320
Speaker 1: figure out who he'd be as a pop star. But

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01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:15,760
Speaker 1: it's not really translating. Okay, we actually did this for

1243
01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:18,960
Speaker 1: a second for drag race for pop stars for pop stars,

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01:06:19,080 --> 01:06:21,800
Speaker 1: I think, can we do? I remember this Katie Perry

1245
01:06:22,200 --> 01:06:27,080
Speaker 1: is Hillary. I don't know. It was too fun. No,

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01:06:27,200 --> 01:06:30,320
Speaker 1: Joel can Booster has done this. Um Hillary is Taylor

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01:06:30,360 --> 01:06:34,000
Speaker 1: Swift and Bernie is Carly ray Jepson. That's insane. I

1248
01:06:34,080 --> 01:06:37,080
Speaker 1: know that. I know Joel. I know Joel has given

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01:06:37,120 --> 01:06:42,040
Speaker 1: the edge to car I'm not on board interesting Carly

1250
01:06:42,800 --> 01:06:45,600
Speaker 1: well because I mean, like this is this was back

1251
01:06:45,640 --> 01:06:48,360
Speaker 1: when Joel was more what was Trump rita? Aura Trump

1252
01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:53,160
Speaker 1: is rita or it doesn't make any sense. This was

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01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:55,840
Speaker 1: back when Joel was more Bernie leaning and Joel and

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01:06:55,920 --> 01:06:58,160
Speaker 1: Joel was like standing for Carly ray Jepson and hating

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01:06:58,200 --> 01:07:01,400
Speaker 1: on Taylor. So for him it was very need a hint, people,

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01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:09,400
Speaker 1: what did you say, I'm here without you? Maybe just

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01:07:09,520 --> 01:07:11,360
Speaker 1: like no go away? Do you know what song came

1258
01:07:11,360 --> 01:07:13,080
Speaker 1: out at Worth the other day which is actually a jam?

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01:07:14,200 --> 01:07:25,800
Speaker 1: Crypt No? I mean maybe. Um. Guys, look, we are

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01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:27,400
Speaker 1: nearing the end and we have to get hit a

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01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:31,040
Speaker 1: couple of segments. So I don't janey you're a fan

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01:07:31,120 --> 01:07:32,680
Speaker 1: of the show. People that are fans of the show,

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Speaker 1: we know we have are one of our favorite segments.

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Speaker 1: This is called I don't Think so high. This is

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01:07:37,680 --> 01:07:40,640
Speaker 1: when we have put sixty seconds on the clock and

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Speaker 1: you have sixty seconds to rail against something in culture

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01:07:44,840 --> 01:07:47,880
Speaker 1: or something that's affecting you culturally in any way. Using

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01:07:47,920 --> 01:07:50,000
Speaker 1: the term I don't think so many as much as

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Speaker 1: you can. And it should be impassionate to be a

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Speaker 1: full thought missive. It should be a missive. Now, Bonen,

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Speaker 1: do you have something that you want to talk about?

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Speaker 1: I don't, do you. I think I think one of

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01:07:59,120 --> 01:08:00,919
Speaker 1: us should start to the g can you can see

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01:08:01,240 --> 01:08:04,680
Speaker 1: I think that one of us should begin and I

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Speaker 1: can go Firstna go first? Okay, alright, women in o'clock,

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Speaker 1: whenever you start, ok and I'm I am ready great.

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Speaker 1: I don't think so honey. The f train on a

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01:08:17,760 --> 01:08:20,960
Speaker 1: Sunday night. Let me tell you something. F I have

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01:08:21,120 --> 01:08:23,920
Speaker 1: to get home and all of a sudden, it's like

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01:08:24,320 --> 01:08:26,599
Speaker 1: it's after seven pm on a Sunday and you're taking

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01:08:26,600 --> 01:08:28,840
Speaker 1: a break. Well, guess what you work for me? Honey,

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Speaker 1: I don't think so. You don't get to take break

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01:08:31,080 --> 01:08:33,160
Speaker 1: unless I say I would rather you take a break,

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01:08:33,240 --> 01:08:34,640
Speaker 1: Quite honestly, in the middle of the day, in the

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01:08:34,680 --> 01:08:37,360
Speaker 1: middle of the work day. We need you at these times,

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01:08:37,720 --> 01:08:40,120
Speaker 1: all right. You need to be there for me when

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01:08:40,120 --> 01:08:43,160
Speaker 1: I need to get home to Seventh Avenue off the

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01:08:43,280 --> 01:08:46,439
Speaker 1: f G and guess what. How can I have to

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01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:49,400
Speaker 1: transfer so many times to get home? Honey, I don't

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01:08:49,439 --> 01:08:51,479
Speaker 1: think so. I'm tired of hopping to the A to

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01:08:51,560 --> 01:08:52,960
Speaker 1: the C, to the B, to the F, to the

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Speaker 1: to the T T T T. I don't want to honey.

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01:08:55,960 --> 01:08:58,040
Speaker 1: I don't want to transfer, no, mom, I don't want

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Speaker 1: to be a player no more. Honey, You're too much

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01:09:02,960 --> 01:09:06,960
Speaker 1: And how come I'm getting stuck? I want when I'm

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01:09:07,000 --> 01:09:09,360
Speaker 1: on the subway next they're gonna say who's gonna stop this,

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01:09:09,400 --> 01:09:10,920
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna say me, And then I want fight

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01:09:11,000 --> 01:09:13,400
Speaker 1: Song by Rachel Platton to play. I'm gonna say no

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Speaker 1: more empty TV because I don't think so. That's one minute.

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Speaker 1: I think. I think that really is going to change things.

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01:09:21,360 --> 01:09:23,320
Speaker 1: Lost a little bit of steam towards the end. No,

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01:09:23,479 --> 01:09:25,960
Speaker 1: I think I got more firm. You got more firm.

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01:09:26,360 --> 01:09:30,160
Speaker 1: I think I got stronger, and that was really good.

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01:09:31,840 --> 01:09:36,000
Speaker 1: Why do I get stuck like Whitney? I don't stuck.

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01:09:37,640 --> 01:09:41,760
Speaker 1: Oh man, Whitney's great, come on, Bowen. I had to think.

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01:09:41,760 --> 01:09:43,360
Speaker 1: It went on the spot. I had to speak from

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01:09:43,360 --> 01:09:46,800
Speaker 1: the heart. I'm a little disappointed with my I have

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01:09:46,880 --> 01:09:49,280
Speaker 1: a similar one. Well, no, no, no, I don't wait

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01:09:49,360 --> 01:09:53,800
Speaker 1: stop stop stop, I really don't. I can do all right,

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Speaker 1: all right, now you go, you go. It is time

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Speaker 1: and it begins. I don't see the time. I'm like nervous. Sorry,

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Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. To the current state of

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01:10:09,760 --> 01:10:13,760
Speaker 1: brand integration on the Housewives franchise, because it started out

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Speaker 1: with Bethany, and she knew what she was doing. Even

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01:10:16,120 --> 01:10:18,680
Speaker 1: before she knew she knew what she was doing, she

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01:10:18,880 --> 01:10:22,960
Speaker 1: built Skinny Girl into a million dollars sail to Jenny.

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01:10:23,120 --> 01:10:26,240
Speaker 1: On her own, she was hawking muffins and a grocery

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01:10:26,240 --> 01:10:28,160
Speaker 1: source sas in one of real Housewives in New York.

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01:10:28,640 --> 01:10:31,160
Speaker 1: Now we get these women thinking they're so savvy, we

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01:10:31,320 --> 01:10:33,519
Speaker 1: see through all of it. I'm not buying your rock

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01:10:33,680 --> 01:10:36,320
Speaker 1: that you say is a jewel. I'm not buying your

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01:10:36,400 --> 01:10:39,000
Speaker 1: toaster of and that's going to set my house on fire, Sonja.

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01:10:39,240 --> 01:10:41,840
Speaker 1: I'm not buying the third iteration of a drink now

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01:10:41,960 --> 01:10:46,320
Speaker 1: called like tipsy girl. I see through you, and I'm sorry.

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01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:49,439
Speaker 1: I'm also not buying the Bravos sponsorship with Soul Cycle

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01:10:49,479 --> 01:10:52,040
Speaker 1: where you go to Habitat for Humanity afterwards. I'm on

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01:10:52,200 --> 01:10:54,719
Speaker 1: board with Habitat, and I think it cheapens their brand

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Speaker 1: and their integrity. Soul Cycle should be ashamed of themselves.

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01:10:58,200 --> 01:11:00,479
Speaker 1: I think that they should be ashamed themselves for many reasons,

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Speaker 1: but one of them is that they are horrible. And

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Speaker 1: I don't think so. Honey, Wow, you did it. I

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01:11:09,040 --> 01:11:11,439
Speaker 1: think that that and you know what, truly attacked culture.

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01:11:12,439 --> 01:11:14,640
Speaker 1: And I said, I think now people are going to

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Speaker 1: be more aware because I don't know that everyone has

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01:11:18,120 --> 01:11:22,599
Speaker 1: really thought about the spears baptize your pain and you're suffering.

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01:11:22,960 --> 01:11:25,360
Speaker 1: I'll let Beyonce. Sometimes it's just having a minute on

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01:11:25,439 --> 01:11:31,800
Speaker 1: the class and just saying whatever you want. But you

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01:11:31,960 --> 01:11:34,840
Speaker 1: and me love drought. I think, right, are you doing one?

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01:11:34,960 --> 01:11:37,960
Speaker 1: I'm doing one? And still I'm still stumped. Well bow,

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01:11:38,080 --> 01:11:39,599
Speaker 1: and I don't know what to say. I don't think

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01:11:39,640 --> 01:11:42,559
Speaker 1: all right, okay, I don't think honey, I've got something.

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01:11:42,680 --> 01:11:44,719
Speaker 1: All right, here we go. I don't think so, honey.

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01:11:44,760 --> 01:11:48,439
Speaker 1: People who keep squatting in meaning rooms and conference rooms

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01:11:48,600 --> 01:11:51,479
Speaker 1: right after they've been booked, well past they've been they're

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01:11:51,520 --> 01:11:54,200
Speaker 1: booking time, I don't. I cannot hover outside and be

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01:11:54,240 --> 01:11:57,200
Speaker 1: a vulture for you and just wait and shoot you,

1347
01:11:57,720 --> 01:11:59,960
Speaker 1: you know, mean eyes, and say, well, you know it's

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01:12:00,360 --> 01:12:02,639
Speaker 1: it's time, And then I have to be the onus

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01:12:02,720 --> 01:12:05,040
Speaker 1: is on me to open up the door, crack it open,

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01:12:05,120 --> 01:12:06,519
Speaker 1: and peek in and be like, hey, guys, we have

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01:12:06,720 --> 01:12:09,360
Speaker 1: the room. I don't think so, honey, because you know what,

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01:12:09,600 --> 01:12:13,599
Speaker 1: it's not on me, it's on you. Reheartual rooms, conference

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01:12:13,840 --> 01:12:17,400
Speaker 1: conference rooms at work and at your office or anywhere

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01:12:17,439 --> 01:12:21,280
Speaker 1: you know, any kind of scheduled space. You cannot hold

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01:12:21,320 --> 01:12:23,000
Speaker 1: the space for longer than you're a lot of times,

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01:12:23,479 --> 01:12:25,760
Speaker 1: this is done. This is done. Excuse me, this is mine.

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Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. I don't think so honey.

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01:12:27,520 --> 01:12:29,360
Speaker 1: Matt Rodgers I don't think so, honey. People who cut

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01:12:29,400 --> 01:12:31,960
Speaker 1: into my who cut into my space, who take up

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Speaker 1: space for designated space for me. This is exactly what

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Speaker 1: is wrong with Janey. Do you do not take up

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01:12:39,479 --> 01:12:41,400
Speaker 1: space for me? I don't think so, honey, Janey. And

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Speaker 1: that is one minute, Honey, you were the culture of

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01:12:45,880 --> 01:12:48,800
Speaker 1: being under attacked air I truly was. I think that

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01:12:49,000 --> 01:12:51,800
Speaker 1: Bowen Yang is a huge part of culture. And I

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01:12:51,920 --> 01:12:54,840
Speaker 1: think that I attacked him. I think that Jeney attacked him.

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Speaker 1: I think that's how you know it's worth improved my point.

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01:12:59,520 --> 01:13:02,080
Speaker 1: And you still you peeked your head out, you said,

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01:13:02,120 --> 01:13:05,040
Speaker 1: not right now, but listen, I know because this is

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Speaker 1: the opposite. I had the conference room, but you two

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01:13:07,080 --> 01:13:08,720
Speaker 1: were the ones who picked your head in when you

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Speaker 1: did not have the room. Books. Honey, honey, I don't

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01:13:12,040 --> 01:13:14,200
Speaker 1: think so. I don't think all of our clocks are

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01:13:14,200 --> 01:13:17,639
Speaker 1: said at different times. I think you're right. Someone's time

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01:13:17,720 --> 01:13:20,080
Speaker 1: up is not your time up unless you have the

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01:13:20,160 --> 01:13:23,439
Speaker 1: universal clock. Honting. This is a victim clock blaming scenario.

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01:13:23,880 --> 01:13:27,800
Speaker 1: You're ridiculous, You're all You're all filth, just disgusting. I

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01:13:27,880 --> 01:13:31,400
Speaker 1: hate where is the shape? I hate you? I can

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01:13:31,479 --> 01:13:34,720
Speaker 1: I just say I hate that. I hate I hate you,

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01:13:35,000 --> 01:13:38,679
Speaker 1: I hate Jenie, I hate our producer Joe, I hate

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01:13:38,760 --> 01:13:42,000
Speaker 1: I hate everything. So we love it. Um. Actually that's

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01:13:42,000 --> 01:13:46,479
Speaker 1: the time is really truly affected what I thought this

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01:13:46,680 --> 01:13:49,000
Speaker 1: was a safe It is it is? Can I tell

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01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:51,439
Speaker 1: you that was all a bit? And also now, thank

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01:13:51,439 --> 01:13:56,160
Speaker 1: god bits I have relieve also, um, and I just

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01:13:56,240 --> 01:13:58,040
Speaker 1: want to say, it's time to do a Culture of

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01:13:58,080 --> 01:14:00,799
Speaker 1: the week. So this is when we was our favorite

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01:14:00,880 --> 01:14:05,160
Speaker 1: culture show, our favorite culture of the week. Um, the

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01:14:05,240 --> 01:14:07,120
Speaker 1: best thing that's happening in culture this week for you

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01:14:08,680 --> 01:14:11,280
Speaker 1: besides Lemonade, which this is gonna be a tough, tough task.

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01:14:12,760 --> 01:14:14,559
Speaker 1: I think you can listen to me and bones culture

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01:14:14,560 --> 01:14:16,320
Speaker 1: of the week and then you can make it terms out.

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01:14:16,320 --> 01:14:19,280
Speaker 1: I actually know right away when I'm gonna go ahead. Um.

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01:14:19,760 --> 01:14:24,759
Speaker 1: You know my culture of the week are on ride

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01:14:25,600 --> 01:14:30,280
Speaker 1: photos Disney World, Disney photos, and I think you know

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01:14:30,400 --> 01:14:32,080
Speaker 1: it's so amazing what you can do when you're on

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01:14:32,120 --> 01:14:34,519
Speaker 1: a ride at Disney in terms of enjoyment, in terms

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01:14:34,560 --> 01:14:37,120
Speaker 1: of experience, but what's really incredible is what you can

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01:14:37,160 --> 01:14:39,760
Speaker 1: take home with you aka the merch um. And so

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01:14:39,920 --> 01:14:41,800
Speaker 1: this is not only just merched for the sake of

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01:14:41,880 --> 01:14:44,080
Speaker 1: having merch, which of course that's why it exists rule

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01:14:44,160 --> 01:14:48,880
Speaker 1: number three of culture merches merger question. So like, yeah,

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01:14:48,960 --> 01:14:51,080
Speaker 1: and I think, um, now you have a visual memory.

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01:14:51,640 --> 01:14:55,000
Speaker 1: I'd like to harken back to a time when we

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01:14:55,120 --> 01:14:57,040
Speaker 1: were on Rock and roller Coaster and we've got a

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01:14:57,080 --> 01:15:01,040
Speaker 1: truly a great picture taking David Gust last week. It

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01:15:01,120 --> 01:15:03,600
Speaker 1: was a wonderful photo and we were able to buy it.

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01:15:04,120 --> 01:15:05,960
Speaker 1: And I think that was so smart of Disney to

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Speaker 1: sell something because as you know, and I just would

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01:15:08,760 --> 01:15:12,120
Speaker 1: like to really caution everyone, don't spend your money anywhere

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01:15:12,120 --> 01:15:15,280
Speaker 1: else but Disney. They need your money. Disney pranks aren't

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01:15:15,280 --> 01:15:19,840
Speaker 1: funny photos and roller coasters. That's so funny. And also

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01:15:20,040 --> 01:15:21,720
Speaker 1: the different kinds of faces that you can do in

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01:15:21,800 --> 01:15:25,920
Speaker 1: the pictures. You can do a serious face, you can

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01:15:25,960 --> 01:15:30,759
Speaker 1: do a really big, over the top face. There aren't

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01:15:30,880 --> 01:15:33,320
Speaker 1: where it's like, I just want to see funny face. Yeah,

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01:15:33,400 --> 01:15:35,280
Speaker 1: I want to see more funny faces in these photos.

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01:15:35,320 --> 01:15:36,680
Speaker 1: I want to see more faces of all kinds. I

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01:15:36,720 --> 01:15:38,280
Speaker 1: want to see you buying these on. Right, you know

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01:15:38,320 --> 01:15:41,479
Speaker 1: what's funny with your money? Knowing when in the roller

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01:15:41,560 --> 01:15:44,400
Speaker 1: coaster or in the ride, the camera it's so fun

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Speaker 1: to know, so fun. So that's my culture for the week.

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Speaker 1: Photographs that you can buy at Disney World on ride

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01:15:52,520 --> 01:15:57,519
Speaker 1: photographs amazing. Um, well, my culture of the week has

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01:15:57,640 --> 01:16:00,680
Speaker 1: to be Uh, the ice cream part are in the

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01:16:00,760 --> 01:16:06,240
Speaker 1: Magic Kingdom of Disney World. Explain, explain listen when they're

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01:16:06,360 --> 01:16:10,200
Speaker 1: trying to you know, shoe away all of the patrons

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01:16:10,240 --> 01:16:13,920
Speaker 1: and guests at the Magic Kingdom. Um. You know, the

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01:16:14,000 --> 01:16:18,160
Speaker 1: ice cream parlor bravely stays open until about one thirty am.

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01:16:18,280 --> 01:16:20,120
Speaker 1: And I believe when Matt and I went with her

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01:16:20,120 --> 01:16:23,680
Speaker 1: friend David Um as we were making our exit from

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01:16:23,720 --> 01:16:25,680
Speaker 1: the park, the ice cream parlor was open and they

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01:16:25,760 --> 01:16:29,400
Speaker 1: serve you a variety. There are so many flavors of

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01:16:29,479 --> 01:16:32,559
Speaker 1: many favors in the world, in the world and at

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01:16:32,560 --> 01:16:35,519
Speaker 1: the ice cream parlor. And there are a variety of cones,

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01:16:35,840 --> 01:16:38,240
Speaker 1: whether it's waffle or sugar. I can't get your eyes

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01:16:38,280 --> 01:16:39,960
Speaker 1: come on a waffle cone, on a sugar cone, on

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01:16:40,000 --> 01:16:44,360
Speaker 1: a wafer cone, or in a dipped cone, or or

1439
01:16:44,800 --> 01:16:47,040
Speaker 1: or in a plane cup. That's right now, we're talking

1440
01:16:47,080 --> 01:16:49,040
Speaker 1: to eat ice cream with a spoon. You can eat

1441
01:16:49,120 --> 01:16:52,400
Speaker 1: just with your mouth. You can eat it well, absolutely,

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01:16:52,680 --> 01:16:54,639
Speaker 1: And it's at Disney World. It's a Disney World, which

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01:16:54,680 --> 01:16:57,120
Speaker 1: is the best part. I love that. So, Jannie, what's

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01:16:57,160 --> 01:16:59,120
Speaker 1: what is your culture of the week. My cluture of

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01:16:59,120 --> 01:17:02,080
Speaker 1: the week is at a New World. When you are

1446
01:17:02,200 --> 01:17:05,200
Speaker 1: looking for something to do in your room and you

1447
01:17:05,280 --> 01:17:06,800
Speaker 1: had a nice day, you can look at this Twitter

1448
01:17:06,840 --> 01:17:10,960
Speaker 1: account that's just called everything goats goats, just pictures of

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01:17:11,040 --> 01:17:14,720
Speaker 1: baby goats, And I think goats are the new cat

1450
01:17:14,800 --> 01:17:18,960
Speaker 1: slashdog like they really think started with and that's what

1451
01:17:19,240 --> 01:17:20,960
Speaker 1: that's what it is. That's what it is. You know

1452
01:17:21,000 --> 01:17:22,479
Speaker 1: what it was? It was dogs and cats and then

1453
01:17:22,560 --> 01:17:24,920
Speaker 1: for a second, for just it was such a small window,

1454
01:17:25,000 --> 01:17:28,439
Speaker 1: but little tiny miniature pigs. Yes, they had a moment.

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01:17:28,520 --> 01:17:31,320
Speaker 1: They scared me a little, a little scary. They seemed unhealthy,

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01:17:31,640 --> 01:17:35,000
Speaker 1: they seemed like forced the metaboli, their metabolisms are probably

1457
01:17:35,200 --> 01:17:39,640
Speaker 1: very abnormal, abnormal. They cannot teller gluten, etcetera. But the

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01:17:39,840 --> 01:17:44,200
Speaker 1: goat is something else. The goat is ador It runs sideways,

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01:17:44,240 --> 01:17:47,240
Speaker 1: It screams at inappropriate times, it eats things. Some people

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01:17:47,280 --> 01:17:49,479
Speaker 1: have them in their homes, which raises so many questions

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01:17:50,479 --> 01:17:52,720
Speaker 1: loving goats, And there's a great Twitter where it's just

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01:17:52,800 --> 01:17:56,439
Speaker 1: like it's like, um, haters go to hate and it's

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01:17:56,479 --> 01:18:01,439
Speaker 1: a goat wearing sunglasses. Sony goat. Now I'm thinking that

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01:18:01,479 --> 01:18:04,360
Speaker 1: doesn't make sense. Janey, would you where would you place?

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01:18:04,600 --> 01:18:07,840
Speaker 1: Everything good? Everybody goes, everything goes. I wanted to be

1466
01:18:07,920 --> 01:18:13,800
Speaker 1: everybody goes, everybody everything. I'm not quite sure anything goes. Well.

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01:18:13,840 --> 01:18:16,439
Speaker 1: That's got him goats today and goats bad anyway. So

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Speaker 1: is this I just want to do a shout out,

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Speaker 1: a Disney shout out to Brady Okallaham Radio. He's living

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Speaker 1: his goddamn wife on this vacation and thank you for

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Speaker 1: doing it without an insovirony. He's posting such great photos

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Speaker 1: from his trip. Here, so other people in in the

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Speaker 1: community who just fully, earnestly embraced Disney. Um Michael Hart

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Speaker 1: and Michael Harney, Jason Gore, Kristen Bartlett, Chapman, Oh have

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Speaker 1: you never been? When I was? You must. I feel

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Speaker 1: as if maybe there's like a huge Disney trip to

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Speaker 1: be taken. I mean, like maybe we must and then

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Speaker 1: we'll do a series called Fortnits in Orlando, my favorite

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Speaker 1: Instagram series of many man. Well, gosh, I mean, this

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Speaker 1: has been such a fun episode. We talked, really talked,

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Speaker 1: fun you know what, that's we have to go to.

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Speaker 1: Culture is all about shaking it up, getting a little

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Speaker 1: bit real, having a little bit of fun, and making

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Speaker 1: sure we all take it the same amount of seriousness, right,

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Speaker 1: so eloquently, so elegant, and listen, when you have a

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Speaker 1: real when you have it fun, you have to take

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Speaker 1: it with the same seriousness. Alright, guys, my thanks and

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Speaker 1: bones thanks to Janie Stillar and I really want to

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Speaker 1: I want to because are you at Janie Stillar reference, Yes,

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Speaker 1: of course, which is why you earned your spot this

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Speaker 1: particular episode Lemonade episode I really want to um plug um.

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Speaker 1: Two things Lemonade, the new album by Beyond you haven't

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01:19:55,960 --> 01:19:58,800
Speaker 1: heard of it. It's real cool and a spanking up.

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Speaker 1: This Friday, Murder My Spirits. The Spirits, which I co

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Speaker 1: wrote with my good friend Carly Anne Philbin and Bowen

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Speaker 1: Yang features in it, featured and it will be up

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Speaker 1: at six pm at UCB. Um. What did you want

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Speaker 1: to plug? I want to plug? Oh gosh, I don't

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Speaker 1: have that much to plug. Oh well, if you're in

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Speaker 1: l A. On May ten, oh um, I will be

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Speaker 1: hosting an old variety show of mine called Ethnic Realness

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Speaker 1: with mycar we're on the same coast. It's it's it's

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Speaker 1: a gay blood moon, so I love that. Any plugs

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Speaker 1: besides um, I guess just female gays. May four. Three

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Speaker 1: expressions with reality people who have met reality stars. Timothy

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Speaker 1: Timothy Dunn has met Miss New York and or who

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Speaker 1: auditioned for a real world No, yes, that is a story.

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Speaker 1: Then a story like that has never been met. He

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Speaker 1: met her boyfriend named d J Bucky Blend's, So I

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Speaker 1: have so many questions d J Bucky Blen guys, so

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Speaker 1: many shows to see on both coast, and I can't

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Speaker 1: a way to see you at all. Oh my god

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Speaker 1: less culture races. We had fun, we had fun, and

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Speaker 1: we took it with all this. We thank you, Jamie

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Speaker 1: love Hi glacklandy lotany. This has been a Forever Dog

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Speaker 1: production executive produced by Joe Cilio, Alex Ramsay, and Brett

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