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Speaker 2: Man, that was some really good Arby's.

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Speaker 3: I like Arby's.

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Speaker 2: Arby's is pretty underrated.

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Speaker 1: Actually Arby's is pretty good. I just went to Arby's

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Speaker 2: Good morning, sweet and welcome to the Nodunks podcast on

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Speaker 2: the Athletic Network. It's Tuesday, November twenty sixth, twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 2: I'm jay E Skeiths here in the Classic Factory and

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Speaker 2: alongside me, as always task.

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Speaker 1: Mellice podcast listeners, this is for you.

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Speaker 2: Next to him, it's the Bearded one, my top Sha

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Speaker 3: Here, you and.

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Speaker 2: Over Yonder making the magic happen. He likes Arby's, sure,

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Speaker 2: JD Hello, Hey, JD. Hello, I'm not sure. Is that

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Speaker 1: No, I don't hate it, but it's pretty good. That's

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Speaker 1: not my It's not my top five for sure?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, is it in anybody's top five? Here?

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Speaker 1: I always think it's going to be good and I

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Speaker 1: go inside and it's never what I expect. It's like

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Speaker 3: Top five fast foods, you mean, or just top five restaurants?

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Speaker 1: Certainly not top five fast foods.

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Speaker 2: Is it? No way? I think if you did the

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Speaker 2: old like family qued poll, it's not going on.

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Speaker 1: Curlies are good.

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Speaker 3: Curlies are good. I have a deal back in the

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Speaker 3: day five for five. I don't think it's that anymore.

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Speaker 2: You won't believe this, not an ad, just a cold

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Speaker 2: for years. Yeah, yeah, that's right. They would never send

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Speaker 3: They said. Everybody else that I've ever met in Arby's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, despite always saying we have the meats when somebody

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Speaker 1: It's not worth it. When those inadequate restaurants deuce end

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Speaker 1: I got a fifty dollars gift card from Olive Garden

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Speaker 3: taking one extra dribble, getting wide open shots. All eleven

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Speaker 3: He had that beautiful one to Brandon Clark behind the back,

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Speaker 2: say little Pip sounds more positive than Pipsqueak does, which

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Speaker 2: Yeah he must watch. And they've won three in a

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Speaker 3: The fourth quarter for this one day. He went for seventeen,

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Speaker 2: and there was a bit of a flop going on.

433
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Speaker 2: Julius ran against the Sun.

434
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Speaker 3: They said, no flop, it was actually a travel.

435
00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:48,200
Speaker 2: Yes, that's right.

436
00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:51,000
Speaker 3: We had a bunch of game winners that all shouldn't

437
00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:51,359
Speaker 3: have counted.

438
00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:55,240
Speaker 2: So Miller, Tatum, Randall, and now Ivy are your four

439
00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:58,080
Speaker 2: game winning buzzer beaters. Raps fall to two and eight

440
00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:00,720
Speaker 2: in games decided by six points or less and are

441
00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:03,680
Speaker 2: now four and fourteen. They're zero to ten on the road.

442
00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:07,040
Speaker 2: Task believes are the greatest four and fourteen team in

443
00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:11,000
Speaker 2: NBA history. Yeah, okay, yeah, I mean let's look, I know,

444
00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:15,359
Speaker 2: I know our WhatsApp chats like the Raptors fans in it.

445
00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:18,120
Speaker 2: What a season? This is the perfect season. These games

446
00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:21,679
Speaker 2: are entertaining, we're always in them, we're always losing Capture

447
00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:24,240
Speaker 2: the Flag. So that's where a lot of the Raptors

448
00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:26,560
Speaker 2: fan base is at. I think some of these guys,

449
00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:28,280
Speaker 2: some of the young promising, like the bench players played

450
00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:30,520
Speaker 2: well last night for the Raps. There's promise there, but

451
00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:32,840
Speaker 2: there's not a lot of victories, nor will there be

452
00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:35,800
Speaker 2: and it's not just on quickly missing. There's a lot

453
00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:36,800
Speaker 2: of teams missing guys.

454
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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, they just Scartie Barnes missed a huge chunk

455
00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:42,600
Speaker 1: of this season. They're a top heavy team, and when

456
00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:45,040
Speaker 1: your top heavy guys don't play out, No, yeah, that's

457
00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:48,239
Speaker 1: an excuse for sure. Either way, let's give a little love, Sar.

458
00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:52,080
Speaker 1: Tom's a great sea him back. Yes, And also, I

459
00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:55,320
Speaker 1: mean shrewder setting up guys in that game over and

460
00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:57,600
Speaker 1: over and over to have nine guys hit threes on

461
00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:00,440
Speaker 1: that team. The war is now missing using two in

462
00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:04,439
Speaker 1: a row because the other team just shooting threes to

463
00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:06,000
Speaker 1: be able to shoot forty four percent for three for

464
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Speaker 1: the Nets. I don't know if the Warriors are looking

465
00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:10,320
Speaker 1: forward to an okay See game on Wednesday. That's just

466
00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:12,520
Speaker 1: the nextcuse they lost two in a row. But I

467
00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:14,440
Speaker 1: am looking forward to Warriors versus okay See.

468
00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:16,919
Speaker 2: Ondesays for sure good win from the Nets are up

469
00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:18,879
Speaker 2: to eight and ten. Man, you said, Taylor Jenkins, does

470
00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:21,840
Speaker 2: there some Coach of the Year love? Absolutely? Jordy Fernandis does.

471
00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:24,560
Speaker 2: With what he's getting out of this squad, he's got

472
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Speaker 2: to be on the short list. Just one note about

473
00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:29,040
Speaker 2: the Pistons I saw from Detroit bad Boys. Detroit's eighth

474
00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:31,120
Speaker 2: win of the season means the team could lose its

475
00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:33,560
Speaker 2: next thirty one games and still be ahead of last

476
00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:36,760
Speaker 2: season's pace. So much better than last year.

477
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Speaker 3: Don't tempt him the Pistons and better man. I need

478
00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:44,880
Speaker 3: Dennis Truder to play for the Magic. Yeah, he needs

479
00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:47,560
Speaker 3: to go there. Seventeen points in the fourth quarter, four assists,

480
00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:51,280
Speaker 3: only a couple of turnovers. But he just does everything

481
00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:54,360
Speaker 3: like Shrewder literally does everything off the dribble, threes, He's

482
00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:56,480
Speaker 3: got it, catch and shoot threes. He can knock him down.

483
00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:59,159
Speaker 3: He was scoring off drives, he was scoring off cuts.

484
00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:04,000
Speaker 3: The playmaking nice. He's got the Germanic connection with both Bogners. Like,

485
00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:06,680
Speaker 3: he needs to go there. That's a that's a trade

486
00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:08,560
Speaker 3: that needs to happen, and maybe it will going on.

487
00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:11,240
Speaker 3: But uh, if you're giving Jordi Fernandez coach of the

488
00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:13,560
Speaker 3: Year votes for an eight and ten team, hell yeah,

489
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Speaker 3: you are a sick Yeah, absolute sick. Oh absolute Homer

490
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Speaker 3: right there?

491
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Speaker 2: I think, why am I Homer? Because he coaches Team Canada.

492
00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:26,480
Speaker 2: Yeah they're eight and ten. Nod.

493
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Speaker 3: Anthony Melton, I thought was a factor for the Warriors

494
00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:33,680
Speaker 3: here because Schreuder is having no problems with Peyton, Pajemski

495
00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:35,960
Speaker 3: or Curry if they got on him. All those guys

496
00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:37,960
Speaker 3: are like basically the same size as Danthony Meltain, but

497
00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:41,080
Speaker 3: Danthony Melton has like a foot longer wingspan than any

498
00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:42,639
Speaker 3: of them, So it was easy for Shooter. He just

499
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Speaker 3: get a bump finish over the top of them. Bad loss,

500
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Speaker 3: I thought for the Warriors.

501
00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:51,000
Speaker 2: Next one, Ojiannaobi scored a career high forty points. Jaalen

502
00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:54,399
Speaker 2: Brunson had seventeen of New York's team record tying forty

503
00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:57,480
Speaker 2: five assists as the Knicks wrote a very hot start

504
00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:00,920
Speaker 2: to the one forty five one eighteen route of the Nuggets.

505
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:05,480
Speaker 2: Michael Malone was real mad. Don't call him Mike in

506
00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:08,480
Speaker 2: Indy Tyrese. Haliburton was back, looking like his old self.

507
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:10,879
Speaker 2: I thought to lead the Pacers pass. The shorthanded Pelicans

508
00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:13,760
Speaker 2: won fourteen, one hundred. CJ McCollum, who did return, He

509
00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,359
Speaker 2: had twenty three points. He looks solid. But Elfred Peyton

510
00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:19,720
Speaker 2: dished out a career high twenty one assists, the most

511
00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:21,800
Speaker 2: in an NBA game this season. So the what you

512
00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:26,520
Speaker 2: got tass is bigger surprise from like cherry picking some

513
00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:30,119
Speaker 2: stats here from these games OG's forty points career high

514
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Speaker 2: or Alfred Payton's twenty one assists.

515
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Speaker 1: What you got the alphad Prayton twenty one assists. If

516
00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:38,680
Speaker 1: you go watch these assists, there's a lot of them

517
00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:42,239
Speaker 1: that are pass it, dribble, dribbled, dribble. You get an

518
00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:45,119
Speaker 1: assist that is too lenient, Yes, start assist.

519
00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:48,560
Speaker 2: True, but I thought ten of them were legit table setters.

520
00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:50,560
Speaker 2: I went and watched all them too, because I always

521
00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:52,359
Speaker 2: want to know, like, of the twenty one, how many

522
00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:53,600
Speaker 2: of these are just like give it to a guy

523
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Speaker 2: he hits a three, or like you said, give it

524
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Speaker 2: to a guy who then dribbled, dribble, dribble and then scores.

525
00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:00,960
Speaker 2: About half of them were yeah, but half of them

526
00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,760
Speaker 2: were like clim back to the guys, a bunch of

527
00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 2: oops to Missy like there are some good ones in here.

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Speaker 1: I'll freaking pass. Yeah, that's absolutely true. I will say

529
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Speaker 1: throughout the NBA there are a lot of assists that

530
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Speaker 1: are given out pretty leniently. Sure, sure you can have,

531
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Speaker 1: but I would say, like John Moran had eleven assists,

532
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Speaker 1: they look like assists. So when I compare assists and

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Speaker 1: when you look at the raw number assists guys assists

534
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Speaker 1: per game, I feel like it's it's always pushed a

535
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Speaker 1: little bit, but you know, if a guy's got more

536
00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,800
Speaker 1: assists than another guy, since it's lenient to every single guy,

537
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Speaker 1: I think it applies. I think it's totally fine. That

538
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Speaker 1: being said, I was surprised to see o Jannoby a

539
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Speaker 1: little bit more so watching him score the way he scored. Now,

540
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Speaker 1: his first bucket, I think, which got him going was

541
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Speaker 1: a little way too easy. Had Michael Porter Junior on

542
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:51,439
Speaker 1: him and he literally got into like it was a

543
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:53,920
Speaker 1: thirteen foot shot. It looked like he was in practice.

544
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Speaker 1: It looked like he had an open gym Michael Poor

545
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,719
Speaker 1: Junior's left gone, so he took his time and hit

546
00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:00,879
Speaker 1: a shot and then that got him going. But to

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00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,119
Speaker 1: see the way he cut and the way he was

548
00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:05,400
Speaker 1: playing off this offense is just what I was saying

549
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,879
Speaker 1: early about this New York Knicks team. They know how

550
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 1: to work each other, and Oja was doing that off

551
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,480
Speaker 1: of cuts. It wasn't just going through him at all.

552
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:16,800
Speaker 1: He was being a secondary, tertiary offensive player. So I

553
00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:21,320
Speaker 1: thought that was extremely impressive to be able to Yes,

554
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:23,560
Speaker 1: then the Nuggets weren't trying to allow the New York

555
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 1: Knicks one hundred and forty five points shoot on sixty percent.

556
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Speaker 1: There's no doubt about that. It was a bad effort.

557
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,480
Speaker 1: But the Knicks offense is the second best offense in

558
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:32,960
Speaker 1: the NBA for a reason. They know how to play

559
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 1: off each other. They can't wait for their best defensive player,

560
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 1: and Mitchell Robinson the best defense is big. I should

561
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:41,600
Speaker 1: say to come back so that side actually bodes well

562
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 1: and looks like a real team. But right now they're

563
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 1: great offensively, So I haven't seen that. Haven't seen that

564
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:48,240
Speaker 1: kind of og.

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Speaker 2: It's crazy to see in the box score ODNNOLB with

566
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Speaker 2: twenty three shot attempts. I will say that and send

567
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:54,960
Speaker 2: like obviously on a high percentage with the forty Karl

568
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:57,560
Speaker 2: Anthony Towns in a monster game too. He barely missed

569
00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:01,639
Speaker 2: outplay Delkich for being honest. One and then all the assists,

570
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:03,040
Speaker 2: like I said in the setup, which one you go

571
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 2: in here? Though, Ogi's forty or Peyton's twenty one dimes.

572
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:09,360
Speaker 3: Also twenty three points and seventeen assists for Jalen brnson Og.

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00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:11,960
Speaker 3: That was pretty impressive. I heard our guy Will Lou

574
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 3: on the Hello and Welcome podcast saying that if you

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00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:17,440
Speaker 3: watch a Yaka peerl thirty point game, you'll see zero highlights.

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00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 3: This was a forty point zero Ognnoby. I was like,

577
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:25,400
Speaker 3: the perfect Ognanoby kind of game. He's not a very

578
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,119
Speaker 3: loquacious guy when it comes to talking, very mono tone,

579
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:31,359
Speaker 3: and that's the way he plays basketball. The dunks were simple,

580
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:34,679
Speaker 3: sometimes a two hander, usually just the one hander the jumper.

581
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 3: If it was open, I'm knocking it down or walking

582
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Speaker 3: into an easy one off a pump fake like Tass

583
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:42,280
Speaker 3: was saying. Had some tough end ones, but I was like,

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00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 3: this is a pretty buy the book. Forty point game

585
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:47,960
Speaker 3: for Ojananobi had twenty in the first half on eight

586
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 3: made shots, twenty in the second half on eight made shots.

587
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,960
Speaker 3: That was crazy to me, But yeah, I thought it

588
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 3: was cool for Ognnobian man. The Knicks offense is absolutely

589
00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:00,960
Speaker 3: cooking right now. O Jannobi is the wing who's a

590
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 3: good scorer. I thought it was gonna mean Kal Bridges,

591
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 3: but Og seems to have superseded him in the pecking order.

592
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 3: On the other side, though, I love to see an

593
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 3: elf giving out gifts during the holiday season. I think

594
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 3: some of those were legit because Miles Turner was getting

595
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 3: very upset and he kept throwing alley hoops over his.

596
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 2: YEA Turn'll come on, man. It happened like four times.

597
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:24,440
Speaker 3: It happened literally four times, and I think maybe everyone

598
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 3: was obie top and should have been the guy helping.

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00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 2: I think you're right, and he wasn't. Yeah, No, I

600
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,639
Speaker 2: could see why Myles Turner was frustrated because, yeah, he's

601
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 2: getting put in the high pick and roll. Has anybody

602
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,720
Speaker 2: going to help you on the back line here? I

603
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 2: got some trivia off the Alfred Peyton twenty one times.

604
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 2: We've had five guys with twenty or more assists in

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00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,959
Speaker 2: a game since the twenty two to twenty three season,

606
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,919
Speaker 2: so not going back too far. Can you name the

607
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 2: other four now that Elfred Peyton is on the list?

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00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 3: I know Tyre's Halliburton is one because I looked up

609
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:56,479
Speaker 3: he was the last player to have a twenty assist game.

610
00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 3: He had twenty and I think twenty four assists twenty

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00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:00,720
Speaker 3: three twenty three active back games.

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00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 2: That's right, Halliburton has done it twice. So Tyres is

613
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,439
Speaker 2: one of them, is there? That's right? James Harden has

614
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 2: done it twice since what year? Twenty two, twenty three,

615
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:11,679
Speaker 2: and then two more guys.

616
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 1: Is he a local boy? He is a local boy.

617
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:18,639
Speaker 2: Trey Tray Trey Young has one game of twenty or

618
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 2: more assists and then one more guy. This is the

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00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 2: toughest one. Though task might remember the.

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00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:27,400
Speaker 3: Game, Darius Garland, No, no.

621
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:31,160
Speaker 2: Cats might remember it more than TK would. Let's put

622
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:35,679
Speaker 2: it that way. He played the Toronto Reptors and he

623
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 2: did it in two two three April twenty three, Fred

624
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 2: Vanvley Bamley had twenty assists against the Hornet. Peyton also

625
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 2: became a fourth player in Pelican's history to record a

626
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 2: twenty assist game. You want to keep the trivia going.

627
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 3: Pelicans, Pelicans this game?

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00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 2: Rondo correct, he has the record twenty five in a

629
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 2: game in two thousand and seven. Eventeen two other guys

630
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 2: have done it.

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00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 1: True holiday, No, not true holidays.

632
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 2: Chris Paul have New Orleans that Chris Paul has done

633
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 2: it twice. My friend, this one the toughest one. U. C. L. A.

634
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 1: Bruin I believe holiday holiday justin holiday.

635
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 3: No.

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00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 2: Holiday. I have to fact check yeah, yeah.

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00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 1: I had it.

638
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 3: I thought I had it with a no, it's not

639
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 3: a passer. Who else was a Johnny Jusang? You never played?

640
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, Kevin Love didn't play for the Russell as.

641
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 2: This guy played. I'll give you the teams this guy

642
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 2: played for. He played for he did it. Wow, we

643
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 2: must have done it as a rookie. Then he played

644
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Speaker 2: for the Pacers. Yeah, gosh, yeah, yeah.

645
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

646
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 2: So Peyton became the fourth player in Pelican's history to

647
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 2: record a twenty as sister game Chris Paul twice, Darren Colson.

648
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 1: Ronto, you mentioned Haliburn. You started off the top seeing

649
00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 1: Halburn go yeah in the nine of eighteen from three point,

650
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 1: What he's back, baby, I guess I mean he was.

651
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 2: That was Haliburton of old.

652
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 1: That is a lot of threes to take. He must

653
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 1: have been and he has always felt like it's going.

654
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 1: It looks like when you watch him, he feels like

655
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 1: it's coming back. Maybe it has, Maybe it has.

656
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 2: They got the win for sure, final one here in

657
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 2: what you got here in Atlanta, Kyrie Irving's big second

658
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 2: half led the Mavericks past the Hawks one nineteen, Atlanta's

659
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 2: third straight loss, and then over in California SGA had

660
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 2: thirty seven points and the Thunders bench combined for forty

661
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 2: in a one thirty one oh nine win over Sacramento

662
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 2: that extended the King's losing streak to four Trey more

663
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 2: disappointing losing streak right now, Hawks losing three straight or

664
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 2: King's losing four straight? What you got?

665
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 3: I had to go look at the streaks to make

666
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 3: sure the Hawks three straight losses, the Warriors, the Bulls,

667
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 3: the Mavericks, all finals contenders, King's losses, the Thunder, the Nets,

668
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 3: the Clippers, and what the Hawks?

669
00:30:57,800 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 1: The Hawks?

670
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 3: Well, there you go. Gotta be the Kings. They lost

671
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 3: to the Hawks and the Nets. I would say they'd

672
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 3: probably have the two worst losses of these seven in

673
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 3: the mix. And you look, you're not upset that they

674
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 3: lost to the Thunder. The Thunder are gonna beat the Kings.

675
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 3: The Thunder have a great defense, but they made the

676
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 3: Kings offense look really bad. This was a pretty close

677
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 3: game through three quarters. It was seventy nine to seventy

678
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 3: eight OKC with five minutes left in the third quarter.

679
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:23,959
Speaker 3: They finished things on a fifty one to thirty one

680
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 3: run and it just felt like they completely turned off

681
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 3: the offense for the Kings. So I think that's a

682
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 3: concern because right now the Kings are twelfth in offense

683
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 3: and in their last four games they've scored one hundred

684
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 3: and eight eighty eight, one oh three, and one oh nine.

685
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 3: Those are some pretty low numbers for a Kings team

686
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 3: that was cooking to start the year. They're only sixteenth

687
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 3: in defense. They're not good enough on the offensive end

688
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 3: to come back. Then I go by them, I'm like, okay,

689
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 3: so what's happening here? They are they take the third

690
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 3: fewest shots within ten feet. They're ahead of Phoenix in Boston.

691
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 3: Phoenix and Boston, those are good offenses. What's the difference?

692
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 3: Three point three pointer nineteenth and three point attempt rate

693
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 3: for Sacramento twenty eighth in res made per game. During

694
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 3: the losing streak, they're shooting forty four percent from the

695
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 3: field thirty one percent from three. Basically, they got to

696
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 3: hit midrange jumpers to score efficiently, and that's a tough

697
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 3: way to live. Because they're twenty ninth in fast break points,

698
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 3: seventeenth in points in the paint. They're a midrange jump

699
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 3: shooting team right now, and that can look good when

700
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 3: you're hitting, but when you're not hitting, you lose games

701
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 3: like this one. So disappointing. I think for the Kings,

702
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 3: they're four and seven in clutch games right now, despite

703
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 3: having two of the better clutch players in the league

704
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 3: in Fox and de Rosen. Somehow they have a plus

705
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 3: ten net rating in the clutch. Doesn't make any sense

706
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 3: to me, Like, how are they that good but also

707
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 3: losing these games? I was sordering. I was on NBA

708
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 3: dot com slash stats in the clutch section, sorting by

709
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 3: like every possible breakdown, Like five minutes left, Okay, they're

710
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 3: a plus ten, one minute left, they're a plus thirty

711
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 3: thirty seconds left, they're a plus fifty. But they've lost

712
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 3: more games than they've won in the clutch. I don't

713
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 3: know what happened. They must add one weird blow ye

714
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 3: win in the clutch or something like that. But the Kings,

715
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 3: it just doesn't look great. Their bench has been pretty bad.

716
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 3: It was good to get Malik Munk back, but haven't

717
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 3: been impressed with them. And I think the losing streak

718
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 3: right now has got Kings fans like, oh oh man,

719
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 3: oh yeah, we haven't improved since our good run two

720
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 3: years ago.

721
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 1: Really, Yeah, they don't have an identity like that team

722
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:19,959
Speaker 1: two years ago has where they were rolling offensively, their

723
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 1: best team in the league offensively, and now they're struggling. Now,

724
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 1: Mike Brown said, all right, let's switch this up, pulling

725
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 1: Kevin Herder out of the starting lineup, putting on Els

726
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 1: back yet who was there last year. And because Kevin

727
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 1: Herder just hasn't been able to hit offensively this year.

728
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 1: And he's been a solid player before in his career,

729
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 1: obviously a good shooter and solid enough defensively. So they're

730
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 1: just trying to find something. Because Mike Brown was talking

731
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 1: about their defense, the stats are are bunkers really coming

732
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 1: into this game. They're the twenty fifth best defense in

733
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 1: the first half, but then they turn it on in

734
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 1: the second half of the sixth best defense. But in

735
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 1: this little run here where the offense has been extremely poor,

736
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 1: you're talking about the three point shooting. Yeah, they finished

737
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 1: the second half one of thirteen in that second half

738
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 1: shooting the three ball, so seven percent vers okay, see,

739
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 1: and you go back against the Nets a fifteen point

740
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 1: fourth quarter, you go back against the Clippers a twenty

741
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 1: nine point first half, So they have just lost their

742
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 1: identity period, full stop. They just don't know who they

743
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:23,320
Speaker 1: are and it obviously it hurts they're in the Western

744
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 1: Conference to lose these games. Now they have a bunch

745
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 1: of home games coming up shortly soon enough, which will help.

746
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:34,279
Speaker 1: But yeah, they just don't know who they are. That's

747
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 1: the thing. They should be better than everybody else offensively,

748
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,760
Speaker 1: but when Kevin Hurder wasn't in there to get it going,

749
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 1: then they really don't know who they are.

750
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 2: I love comparing these two teams in this what you

751
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 2: got the Hawks and the Kings. There's so many similarities

752
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 2: where you're like, you should be better and you just

753
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 2: consistently cannot play consistent for forty eight minutes. That to

754
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:54,399
Speaker 2: me is the thing that jumps out to these two

755
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:57,720
Speaker 2: squads like they look good for quarters and then complete garbage.

756
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 2: And if you look at the worst shooting teams from

757
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 2: three point land in the NBA, you know, it's the Raptors,

758
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 2: it's the Wizards, it's the Kings, the Rockets, the Blazers,

759
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 2: the seventy six ers in Magic. And of that list

760
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 2: of teams, I just gave you who's good. The two

761
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 2: teams that actually play defense that keeps them afloat that

762
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 2: keeps them in games. I'm talking about the rockets and

763
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 2: the magic of course, and that's the King's problem. So

764
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 2: it's like if the shots aren't falling, they don't have

765
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 2: a chance because they can't stop anybody, despite I guess

766
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:27,320
Speaker 2: improving their numbers in the second half. But like, okay,

767
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 2: so you're playing from behind most of the time. It's

768
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 2: like they're just frustrating, and yeah, Kings fans are definitely

769
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 2: getting to that point like, oh, what is going on here?

770
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 2: You know, we make this move for DeRozan and we

771
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:40,400
Speaker 2: should be much better in the clutch, Like why can't

772
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:42,359
Speaker 2: we hit a shot? Because I think for the first

773
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 2: couple of weeks it was like, okay, we can't hit

774
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 2: a three to save our lives.

775
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 1: But you know that have.

776
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:49,239
Speaker 2: Come back to the mean, like we can't shoot this

777
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,879
Speaker 2: poorly for the entire season. But it's like now we're

778
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 2: hitting like you know, week four or five here, it's

779
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:57,399
Speaker 2: like nobody can hit a three. Like it's Herder, it's

780
00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 2: Trey Lyles. It's like everybody out there is struggle. So frustrating.

781
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 2: And then the Hawks, you know, just to pour a

782
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 2: little crap on them as well, they had basically their

783
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 2: full compliment of players and two days arrest against this

784
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:13,319
Speaker 2: Mavericks team last night that was coming off of back

785
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 2: to back in Miami in overtime, and they still can't

786
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:18,800
Speaker 2: beat them with a team without Luca too. It's like,

787
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 2: it's it's pretty embarrassing as well for them to like

788
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 2: let go of the rope in that game as well.

789
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:25,399
Speaker 2: So I don't want to let them off the hook.

790
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 3: Twenty first in offense, twenty eeth in defense. Here's the

791
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:31,840
Speaker 3: game plan if you're playing against the Hawks. Get the

792
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 3: ball out of Trey's hands and let anybody else try

793
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:36,880
Speaker 3: and make a play. Jalen Johnson's usage is way up.

794
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 3: He's putting up stats, but it's not having a big effect.

795
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 3: Trey Young is leading the league in assists right now,

796
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,719
Speaker 3: and it's because people have figured out if anybody else

797
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 3: has the ball, we'll live with it. We'll see what

798
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 3: happens then. Obviously they can't play defense on the other end.

799
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 3: We were watching on playback last night and the broadcast

800
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 3: was just asking him to mix in a stop, not

801
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 3: like get a few stops here to go on a

802
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 3: run there.

803
00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 2: Like just get one, yeah, literally one.

804
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 3: It's like you know it's Thanksgiving week. Maybe have a salad? Yeah,

805
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 3: so you're hungry? On third?

806
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:06,840
Speaker 2: And I feel like every time they said that on

807
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 2: the broadcast, it was a Mavericks lay up at the rim.

808
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 2: Yeah it was. Here's the already so frustrating losing streaks

809
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 2: for both the Hawks and the Kings. Okay, let's get

810
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 2: to some news here. Rockets guard Fred van Vliet find

811
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 2: fifty thousand by the NBA yesterday for confronting and directing

812
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 2: profane language toward the officiating staff in Houston's loss to

813
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:30,880
Speaker 2: the Blazers. Now, Van Vliet nearly touched the face of

814
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,319
Speaker 2: a ref while pointing at him as he walked off

815
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,239
Speaker 2: the floor. We wondered, well, is that gonna be enough

816
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,799
Speaker 2: to get him maybe a game suspension in the end?

817
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,759
Speaker 2: Only fifty k? Dare I say, I think he got

818
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 2: off not bad here for pointing at everybody and again

819
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 2: nearly bopping the referenced nos.

820
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, A real lenient number would be like thirty k.

821
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 1: But fifty k does seem gentle and kind. I wonder

822
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:57,879
Speaker 1: if it will be gentle and kind enough to give

823
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 1: each of the ref a third each point e each

824
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:05,720
Speaker 1: guy that was pointed to it should get sixteen thousand

825
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 1: a third a third. Split it up sixteen six hundred

826
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 1: and sixty six and sixty six cents to each referee.

827
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 1: You get a third, you get a third.

828
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 2: Dangerous slop, My man, you want to like give the

829
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 2: money to the reps. They're gonna start tossing everybody left it. Yeah,

830
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 2: like step until them. Come on.

831
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 1: Man, it is dangerous. But so was that finger when

832
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 1: you look at it. I mean it was close. It

833
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 1: was close to one nose, not all three noses. Yeah,

834
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 1: it fifty. I guess that makes sense in this case.

835
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 2: Do you think Fred got off pretty lilently here?

836
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,400
Speaker 3: Yeah? I did. I'm surprised he wasn't suspended for at

837
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:42,400
Speaker 3: least a game. I think I've been interacting with too

838
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:45,240
Speaker 3: many Rockets tweets because I got a lot of Rockets

839
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:47,359
Speaker 3: fans on my for you page and everyone was Sam, Fred,

840
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 3: You're a legend. Didn't get suspended for that kind of

841
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:52,800
Speaker 3: ran That doesn't happen very often. But I guess I

842
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:54,760
Speaker 3: don't think Uber did get suspended for.

843
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 2: His Yeah you were looking at up.

844
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 3: I don't think he did, because all I could find

845
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:01,359
Speaker 3: out was him getting suspended like twenty seventeen or something

846
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 3: like that, so it must not have happened.

847
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 2: If his finger touches his nose totally, he's definitely getting

848
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:08,240
Speaker 2: it at least a game. Yeah, you can't.

849
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 3: Boop it, but no boop, no suspension, and good news

850
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:13,399
Speaker 3: for our pick him game waiter.

851
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 2: That's true. Yes, family should be playing. Next piece of

852
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 2: news here Pelican Guards. Pelicans guard Dejontey Murray plans to

853
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:25,239
Speaker 2: make his return from a fractured hand Wednesday against the Raptors.

854
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:29,720
Speaker 2: NBA reporter Chris Haynes reported this on Monday. Murray suffered

855
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 2: a fractured left hand in his debut with the Pelicans

856
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 2: in New Orleans opening night win against the Bulls, but

857
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 2: he has not played since. So good news here for

858
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 2: the Pels. I mean, they got McCollum back, who you

859
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,759
Speaker 2: know we glossed over but did look okay in his

860
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 2: first game in a while. And de Jonte should be

861
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 2: back on Wednesday.

862
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:48,840
Speaker 3: Tray, Yeah good, Let's see what he can do. Because

863
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:51,359
Speaker 3: task is telling me that the Raptors are the best

864
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 3: four and fourteen team in the league, because the Pelicans

865
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:55,840
Speaker 3: are four and four. This is not the way you

866
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,280
Speaker 3: would want to be four and fourteen. Losing close games

867
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 3: at the end when you're playing for Ping Pong, that's

868
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 3: the way to do it. Losing all of your players,

869
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 3: starting with the guy you brought in in the summer,

870
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 3: within the first game. That is not the way to

871
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:10,839
Speaker 3: go four and fourteen. So we'll see if you can

872
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 3: elevate them at all. The Pelicans are twenty seventh in

873
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:16,359
Speaker 3: offense this year. We just talked about Alfred Payton having

874
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 3: a huge game, so I imagine we're going to see some

875
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 3: big time Dejonte Murray stats here because I'll have the

876
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 3: ball and a lot of opportunity.

877
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:26,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, And not only are the twenty seventh on offense,

878
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 1: but they're one of the worst teams defensively. They're twenty

879
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,720
Speaker 1: ninth in defense. That's strange when you think with Pelicans

880
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 1: and what they were last year. So who are these guys?

881
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 1: They really don't have an identity on that end. They

882
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 1: were able to play hard for Willie Green, and I'm

883
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 1: not sure that happens at all anymore. The injuries are

884
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 1: part of it, that's for sure, but I'm not sure

885
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:48,720
Speaker 1: Dejonte Murray is the answer on that end of the floor.

886
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 2: So this is interesting though, because you did say the

887
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:54,880
Speaker 2: Raps might be the greatest four and fourteen in NBA history. Sure,

888
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 2: but they're playing another four and fourteen in the Pelicans

889
00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 2: on Wednesday night. Oh so do the Reps need to

890
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:03,799
Speaker 2: win that game for you that to still be true

891
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:06,760
Speaker 2: or actually to lose it in a competitive way?

892
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 1: Great question? Yeah, well that's really good.

893
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:16,479
Speaker 2: Like I know the record will change regardless, it won't

894
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:18,880
Speaker 2: be four and fourteen, but it's like, yeah, do they

895
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 2: win it to really prove your point or do they

896
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 2: lose it?

897
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:25,320
Speaker 1: They got to think. I think they do have to

898
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:28,799
Speaker 1: win because they are a better both an offensive team

899
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 1: and defensive team than the New.

900
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 2: Orleans can come.

901
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 1: Now, you can say, oh, Zion's not there, Sion's obviously

902
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 1: going to miss that game, and you can you can

903
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 1: drop some problems on either side until you're right in

904
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 1: the face, because I do think it is an issue

905
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 1: that they don't have a manual quickly who is one

906
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 1: of their top three. That being said, they play hard

907
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 1: for Ayakovic on the defensive end especially, and Scotty looks

908
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:56,359
Speaker 1: damn good offensively when he doesn't miss shuts. So yes,

909
00:41:56,400 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 1: they have to win whatever that means. Sure, what they

910
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:04,320
Speaker 1: look damn good. Like you said, they lose close games

911
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:07,279
Speaker 1: at the end, that that's a problem where they just

912
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 1: don't have a great ball handler freaking uh just a

913
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 1: great runner up there.

914
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:15,919
Speaker 2: Off Barns is their point guard. Though I'm not saying

915
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 2: quickly wouldn't help, but.

916
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 1: They literally, they literally they're just they're getting run five

917
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:28,759
Speaker 1: on four yesterday or four on three yesterday. Yeah, Yeah,

918
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 1: that was sad. That was literally that's high school basketball.

919
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 1: Guys just aren't in the right spots.

920
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 3: How about this task. Jazz are four and twelve if

921
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:39,400
Speaker 3: they lose their next two games, where did they slot

922
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 3: into the all time rankings? Four and fourteen teams? I

923
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 3: did see that teams after playing the Jazz and losing

924
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 3: to the Jazz, they've only won four games. Teams are

925
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 3: three and one in their next game after losing to

926
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 3: the Jazz, all three blowout wins. The only loss the

927
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 3: Chicago Bulls got blown out by the mass Yeah. So

928
00:42:57,719 --> 00:42:59,719
Speaker 3: if you if you lose to the Jazz, you're gonna

929
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:00,080
Speaker 3: win your.

930
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 2: Well, all right, final piece of news here, Bucks Superstari

931
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 2: Honest and Spurs forward Harrison Barnes were named the NBA

932
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 2: Players of the Week for Week five. I'm sorry that

933
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 2: shocked me. Harrison Barnes, but maybe deservedly getting it in

934
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:18,360
Speaker 2: the Western Conference in three starts, Barnes helped lead the

935
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:20,760
Speaker 2: Spurs to a three to zero record against the thunder

936
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 2: Jazz and Warriors. He averaged twenty two point three points,

937
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 2: eight point seven boards, shot the snot out of the

938
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:29,359
Speaker 2: ball sixty two percent from the field, he was nine

939
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 2: to fifteen from deep on the week, and in one

940
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:34,239
Speaker 2: hundred minutes of play across the three games, Barnes had

941
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 2: zero turnovers. So Harry bo getting it like this is

942
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 2: giannis is I want to say, this is like the

943
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 2: twenty fourth or twenty fifth time he's one Player of

944
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 2: the Week. But Barnes, in his thirteenth season as a pro,

945
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:50,400
Speaker 2: he just set an NBA record for the latest into

946
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 2: a career a player has won a Player of the

947
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 2: Week award for the first time. Do you know who

948
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 2: he beat? You know the two guys that had done

949
00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 2: it in their twelfth NBA season, two guards. You guys

950
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 2: already named one of them when we were doing trivia.

951
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:06,240
Speaker 2: It was incorrect. Drew Holliday did it in his twelfth

952
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:10,319
Speaker 2: NBA season, and this guy who for a time for

953
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 2: a time was considered the greatest player to never make

954
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 2: an All Star team.

955
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:17,240
Speaker 3: Right, Wait, no, Mike Conley.

956
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:21,719
Speaker 2: Mike Conley, they both accompany accomplished excuse me that feet

957
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 2: in their twelfth NBA seasons. But now Barnes has got

958
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 2: it thirteen season. I couldn't believe you in one one.

959
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:28,760
Speaker 2: I just thought maybe somewhere in there he would have grabbed.

960
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:31,839
Speaker 2: I don't know, but good for him.

961
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:33,800
Speaker 3: You told me there's not a player in the Western

962
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 3: Conference that played better than Harrison Barnes last week. I

963
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 3: think they did this for the headlines. Maybe they were

964
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:43,360
Speaker 3: really all those people saying, whoa, this guy's the oldest

965
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:45,399
Speaker 3: player to ever win his first Player of the Week.

966
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 3: You know that's a big clicker skates.

967
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:48,479
Speaker 2: He scored twenty a game.

968
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 3: I know there was better players, no offense.

969
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:54,840
Speaker 2: They definitely enjoyed the three to zero record. Yeah, the Spurs,

970
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 2: you know, and one of them, well two of them.

971
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:59,919
Speaker 2: He beat the thunder and Warriors. I mean that's pretty impressive. Yeah,

972
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 2: he just shot really really well. But you're right, I

973
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:04,799
Speaker 2: don't think he was the greatest player for the week

974
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,919
Speaker 2: five in the last spot, hey deserving in my books,

975
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:08,800
Speaker 2: that's what they better.

976
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 3: Put an astress on it. Oh wow, when they show

977
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 3: this in the Hall of Fame. You know they show

978
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 3: every player of the week in the Hall. Yes, you

979
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:19,319
Speaker 3: could just sit and watch their highlights over time. They

980
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 3: gotta haven't asked.

981
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 2: You know who would love Harrison Barnes right now? The

982
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:25,400
Speaker 2: Kings man. He can hit a shot, he can hit

983
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 2: a three.

984
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 1: They have their own hairsonr. They have to bias hair.

985
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 1: What Oh, I thought you were going Pistons. My bad,

986
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:35,800
Speaker 1: My bad, because I am surprised actually that Harrison Barnes

987
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 1: played for my fantasy team last week. I thought I

988
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 1: was sitting him at times. I just went through my

989
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 1: fantasy team.

990
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:40,799
Speaker 2: Man, did you win?

991
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 1: No? I always win. The name of my team is

992
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 1: I never lost fantasy, which is untrue. But I win.

993
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 1: That's what I do.

994
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:53,279
Speaker 2: Oh, if you have Harry Bowen there last week? All right? Surprisingly,

995
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:57,279
Speaker 2: all right, NBA Cup action underway tonight. I want to

996
00:45:57,280 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 2: give you a quick sort of rundown of where we

997
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:02,359
Speaker 2: stand and basically halfway through a lot of the Cup play.

998
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 2: So let's go through the groups really quickly. Here East

999
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:09,360
Speaker 2: Group A, the Magic and Knicks lead this group perfect

1000
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 2: two to zero record, and thus We're at the point

1001
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 2: where this is going to be decided by that Orlando,

1002
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 2: New York game on December third, Charlotte Brooklyn, Philly. You

1003
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 2: will not be advancing, so it's down to the Magic

1004
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 2: and the Knicks again. That December third game will probably

1005
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 2: decide this one, so that's sort of fun. Both those

1006
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:32,720
Speaker 2: teams obviously playing well in East. Group B. Another battle

1007
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 2: of the unbeatens Milwaukee Detroit that'll be on December third

1008
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:40,880
Speaker 2: as well, and it's likely to decide the group, but

1009
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 2: not one hundred percent. The Heat losing either of its

1010
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:49,839
Speaker 2: two Cup games this week would remove the ifs from

1011
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 2: that scenario between that Bucks Pistons game. Shout out to

1012
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 2: Hollingder for helping me with deciphering this. But the Bucks

1013
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 2: and Heat play tonight, so very important game on TNT

1014
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:02,239
Speaker 2: when you're talking Group B, he need to win that

1015
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 2: to keep their hopes alive. If the Bucks win it,

1016
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:07,760
Speaker 2: then again we're probably setting up for the Bucks probably

1017
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 2: going to win this group. But maybe he can play spoiler.

1018
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 2: They've done it before against the Bucks. Oh they had,

1019
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 2: haven't they.

1020
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 3: Jimmy Butler's actually playing pretty well, yeah recently, But did

1021
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:17,879
Speaker 3: I see that Detroit's two to oher with a point

1022
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 3: differential with plus four. Yes, you did all right, good stuff,

1023
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:21,879
Speaker 3: that's right.

1024
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:25,279
Speaker 2: I have an advanced billy in the NBA Cup East group, Cee,

1025
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 2: we are guaranteed to have a one lost champion in

1026
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:31,719
Speaker 2: this group, and it seems like it's going to be

1027
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 2: decided on point differential. As Hollingers said, with this group,

1028
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 2: we could have maximum chaos. When it comes to the scenarios,

1029
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 2: any of the four teams could still win it. Hawks, Celtics,

1030
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 2: Calves and Bulls. Chicago obviously has to win tonight against

1031
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 2: the Wizards, who have not won in a long time.

1032
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 2: But yeah, this one's a bit of a mess and

1033
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:57,719
Speaker 2: probably will be point differential. So important here in these

1034
00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 2: games for these teams to run up the score if

1035
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:01,720
Speaker 2: you want to maybe advance.

1036
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:05,320
Speaker 3: It'll be very funny if neither the Celtics or Cavaliers advance.

1037
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 2: If it's like the Hawks with the bull somehow advance,

1038
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:11,239
Speaker 2: the Wizards, the Celtics.

1039
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 3: And the Calves have like run ram shot over. Is

1040
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:13,479
Speaker 3: that a word?

1041
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:15,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, they actually said.

1042
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:15,799
Speaker 3: It rough shot.

1043
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, you said.

1044
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 3: Rough shot over the Eastern Conference. But the Cuffs different baby,

1045
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 3: I mean, just look at the Pacers. They went to

1046
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 3: the championship last year. They're already bounced.

1047
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, New Year, knew me. Crazy. West Group A. The

1048
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:34,759
Speaker 2: Rockets lead this group. They can clinch tonight with a

1049
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 2: win at Minnesota, so that's an important game. Obviously, many

1050
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:42,240
Speaker 2: wants to win that to stay alive. I think everybody

1051
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:44,799
Speaker 2: is technically still alive. Besides, the Kings write them off.

1052
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 2: They're done, get out of here Sacramento. So you know,

1053
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:51,719
Speaker 2: Rockets in the driver's seat. But I think Minnesota wins tonight,

1054
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 2: then it's gonna be real spicy. This could be a

1055
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:59,439
Speaker 2: fun group. West Group B. Guys, the Lakers have never

1056
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 2: lost an NBA company and they are still unbeaten in

1057
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 2: this group. But this is a weird one. They cannot

1058
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 2: clinch unless they win both group games this week. Tonight

1059
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 2: they got Phoenix and Kevin Durant and Bradley Beal could

1060
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 2: be back, should be back, I think, And then Friday

1061
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 2: the Lakers got to play the Thunder. So this group

1062
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 2: is far from done because if the Lakers drop one

1063
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 2: of those, things get very complicated, depends on who they

1064
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 2: drop it to. But this is a fun group, and

1065
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:28,759
Speaker 2: this is one we were pretty excited about I remember

1066
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 2: when these were announced.

1067
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:33,719
Speaker 1: Tasks. Yeah, but not a guarantee at all for the

1068
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:37,800
Speaker 1: Houston Rockets. Ain't easy playing against Timberwolves who need to

1069
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 1: win a game as well.

1070
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 2: And then West groups. See, the Warriors have won this group.

1071
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 2: Oh there's the little X beside their name. And I

1072
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:51,799
Speaker 2: love that the Pelicans are already eliminated, like actually eliminated.

1073
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 2: So Warriors are through to the knockout round. Dallas is

1074
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:57,959
Speaker 2: in great shape here for the West wild card because

1075
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 2: they have two wins and they have a huge plus

1076
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 2: forty one point differential right now. That's really gonna help

1077
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:06,919
Speaker 2: their chances. So if the Mavericks beat the Grizzlies at

1078
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:11,319
Speaker 2: home on December third, they should be advancing as the

1079
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 2: wild card team here in this group. December third is

1080
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 2: the point of the story here. Big night, there'll be

1081
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:20,799
Speaker 2: a lot decided. I think that night. Of these groups.

1082
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 3: Big games tonight are Milwaukee at Miami, Houston at Minnesota.

1083
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:27,279
Speaker 2: Those are the biggest. Yeah, and your bull's got to

1084
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 2: win to stay alive.

1085
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 3: I'd love to see a great effort from these guys.

1086
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:34,399
Speaker 1: I do like one thing about the NBA Cup here.

1087
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 1: You said, Trey that the Pistons are a plus four

1088
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 1: and point differential and they're two to zero and they

1089
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:42,759
Speaker 1: beat the Raptors by four points, So how are they

1090
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 1: a plus?

1091
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yes, yes, go on.

1092
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:47,239
Speaker 1: Because the winning over the Miami Heat went to overtime,

1093
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:49,560
Speaker 1: so they don't call that a plus miles anyway.

1094
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:49,920
Speaker 2: It's a zero.

1095
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:53,279
Speaker 1: It's a zero, which I like, I respect. Weird, That

1096
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:53,800
Speaker 1: is weird.

1097
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:54,799
Speaker 3: I forgot about that.

1098
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:58,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was weird. Yeah, I guess. The idea meaning

1099
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:02,719
Speaker 2: that the point differential is fairly then distributed between all

1100
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:04,920
Speaker 2: the teams and the group if you remove the overtime.

1101
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:05,800
Speaker 2: But it is strange.

1102
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:07,719
Speaker 1: It is strange, but it does come down to the

1103
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 1: end of the fourth quarter, and it should. It's if

1104
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:12,279
Speaker 1: you beat a team by twelve points in overtime, doesn't

1105
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:15,440
Speaker 1: mean you'll beat them by twelve points. And for gamblers

1106
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 1: out there, I mean you do win by twelve points,

1107
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:19,279
Speaker 1: but for gamblers out there as well, like you could

1108
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 1: have a six and a half point line. Let's say

1109
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 1: the Pistons are dogs to the Biby Heat by six

1110
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 1: and a half points, and the Miami Heat tie them

1111
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 1: through four quarters, so you go into overtime and lose

1112
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 1: by seven points and the heat went by seven points.

1113
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 1: Should you lose the line?

1114
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:36,319
Speaker 2: No, you don't think you should, but they do, But

1115
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 2: you do, you shouldn't yeh Vegas. I don't take your money.

1116
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 1: I don't think your tie.

1117
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:44,000
Speaker 2: It's a tie fair relas it should be an option

1118
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:47,359
Speaker 2: that you say. No, I'm only betting on forty eight

1119
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 2: minutes of action. I do not want overtime and maybe

1120
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 2: you get paid less or something like that with you

1121
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:53,799
Speaker 2: to some.

1122
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:56,959
Speaker 1: Extent, I do like the tab for the NBA Cup

1123
00:51:57,080 --> 00:51:59,239
Speaker 1: is on NBA dot Com. It's like one of those

1124
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:01,240
Speaker 1: things that you never find. You can never find something

1125
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:03,000
Speaker 1: to put this in season tournament.

1126
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:05,760
Speaker 2: You don't get this guy started on the NBA app.

1127
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:07,040
Speaker 2: Can you find it over there?

1128
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:08,480
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1129
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:12,400
Speaker 2: All right, tonight's pick them game. It's important because we

1130
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 2: have a three way tie for last after those stupid

1131
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:18,719
Speaker 2: Hawks followed the MAVs last night. That's a loss for

1132
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 2: me and Ash. So I'm seven and eight Ashes seven

1133
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:24,560
Speaker 2: and eight and Trey who got the win last night

1134
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:26,680
Speaker 2: with the MAVs. You improved the seven and eight task

1135
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:28,279
Speaker 2: is nine to six. I guess you technically can still

1136
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:29,920
Speaker 2: tie us here with two nights left in November. But

1137
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:31,800
Speaker 2: tonight's game very important.

1138
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 1: It is very important. So I am going to Costco

1139
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:40,319
Speaker 1: after this show to grab a large pumpkin pie. It's

1140
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:43,320
Speaker 1: like three point six three pounds, I found out because

1141
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:46,000
Speaker 1: it's large, and I'm gonna put in the refrigerator because

1142
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:49,440
Speaker 1: I'm worried that they'll all be gone by tomorrow.

1143
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:53,920
Speaker 2: Thank god. You're at a two fridge house, yeah, because man, Yeah, Like,

1144
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:56,280
Speaker 2: I'm sure you've got a packed fridge in your kitchen.

1145
00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:58,879
Speaker 2: Luckily you got the one in the garage. Man. Same

1146
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:00,879
Speaker 2: for jd Ill estate. I'm a one. I'm a one

1147
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 2: fridge house. It'd be tough, man, That's all I'm saying, Man.

1148
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:06,840
Speaker 1: Tough life. Fitting a pumpkin pie and a fridge four.

1149
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 2: Pounds, Yeah, that's gonna take up a whole a whole

1150
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 2: rack in your fridge. You can't put it sideways like

1151
00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:15,319
Speaker 2: you're Jeff Tigue with a pizza, like you could put it.

1152
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 1: You can fit it on top of something, because it's.

1153
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:21,399
Speaker 2: More annoying than that though, hate that?

1154
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, what about the other way?

1155
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:23,400
Speaker 3: Would you?

1156
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:23,839
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1157
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:25,759
Speaker 3: Does it make it into a shelf you can put stuff?

1158
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 2: Does it have a hard plastic cover? I guess it's

1159
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:30,719
Speaker 2: a great integrity of that cover.

1160
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:31,919
Speaker 1: Can conferment?

1161
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:34,319
Speaker 2: Does it does? So I can put a jar of

1162
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:35,480
Speaker 2: pickles on it?

1163
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:38,919
Speaker 1: Okay, I wouldn't put another pie on top.

1164
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:44,320
Speaker 2: You know, gonna need a third fridge for that bacon.

1165
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:47,359
Speaker 1: But you're gonna got a lot of good pies, so

1166
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:50,880
Speaker 1: maybe I will. Now pumpkin cheesecake going on right now.

1167
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:53,239
Speaker 2: You said you're gonna go get this pie after the

1168
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:55,640
Speaker 2: show because are you worried that the pies will be

1169
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 2: gone by Thanksgiving? Because there was some talk in the

1170
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:01,879
Speaker 2: playback streets last night like, man, I know you want

1171
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:03,920
Speaker 2: that fifty percent off come Friday on that pie, but

1172
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 2: they might all be gone. Yeah.

1173
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 1: I was choking that I was going to wait till

1174
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:11,719
Speaker 1: Friday because I would assume they'd be gone. It is Thanksgiving,

1175
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:14,440
Speaker 1: people would buy their pies. I had. We had somebody

1176
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:17,640
Speaker 1: comments on our stream team that he previously worked at

1177
00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 1: a costco and that they were all gone, yeah by Wednesday,

1178
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:24,760
Speaker 1: and that we might be out a leg here. Literally,

1179
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:28,200
Speaker 1: do I gotta make it to make make it a

1180
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:31,279
Speaker 1: bad idea? It's not a bad idea. Our man Ash,

1181
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 1: I think made two one this past weekend. He'll do

1182
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:39,440
Speaker 1: it you think he made those Anyway, the game that

1183
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:43,320
Speaker 1: will probably decided, I shouldn't say probably, it's going to

1184
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:45,480
Speaker 1: come down to the wire. But tonight Rockets at the

1185
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:48,879
Speaker 1: Timberwolves we talked about earlier, an important game in terms

1186
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:52,359
Speaker 1: of NBA Cup World. The Timberwolves are fade by three

1187
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:55,160
Speaker 1: and a half at home to the Houston Rockets, so

1188
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 1: they got won by four plus. But skeets trained myself,

1189
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:01,759
Speaker 1: we're confident that they' do that. Ash the only one

1190
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:03,000
Speaker 1: taking the Rockets.

1191
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:06,400
Speaker 2: Which has usually gone well for people being the lone

1192
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:12,279
Speaker 2: the lone wolf against the Wolves. Interesting. Uh yeah, any

1193
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:14,960
Speaker 2: reasoning why you're going mini desperate?

1194
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:18,280
Speaker 3: Yes, little, But I also think it makes it more

1195
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:21,880
Speaker 3: exciting for us to be tied going into the last wow.

1196
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 3: I was like, guaranteed we're gonna have the same records. Yeah,

1197
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 3: tomorrows not to stuff for a big time showdown, and

1198
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 3: if loses, then he screwed.

1199
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:34,800
Speaker 2: He'd be in a tough spot. But he still have

1200
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:36,840
Speaker 2: one night tie it up. Look, look, we had a

1201
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:40,719
Speaker 2: we had to do a bonus night in October, right,

1202
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:42,840
Speaker 2: and it's definitely in play here that we might have

1203
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 2: to do overtime. It won't count in the NBA Cup

1204
00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:49,280
Speaker 2: point differential, but we might have to do it so anyway, Rockets, Wolves.

1205
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:51,920
Speaker 2: If you're cheering for Esh, you're hoping the Rockets can

1206
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:54,359
Speaker 2: cover that line or just outright win, which they could. Man,

1207
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:58,880
Speaker 2: they're damn good team. Uh So we have Bulls, Wizards, Bucks, Heat, Rockets, Wolves, Spurs,

1208
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:02,720
Speaker 2: Jazz and Lakers. Tonight. We're back tomorrow for our final

1209
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:05,440
Speaker 2: show of the week, this being Thanksgiving week here in

1210
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 2: the States, So join us at ten am Eastern live

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00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:10,759
Speaker 2: here from the Classic Factory. Make sure you hit the

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Speaker 2: like button subscribe podcast listen to leave as a five

1213
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Speaker 2: star rating review. But we'll have some fun tomorrow morning

1214
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:17,880
Speaker 2: and then that'll be it for us for no dunks

1215
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:21,319
Speaker 2: at least for the week until then. Clipper Brose you

1216
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:23,759
Speaker 2: heard it here first. Have a great time, turn up.

1217
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Speaker 3: Love you guys awesome.

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00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:28,959
Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us. And remember grocery stores way better

1219
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:33,000
Speaker 1: to go to on weekdays than the weekends. I just

1220
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:36,520
Speaker 1: got reminded went to Trader Joe's on the weekend. Bo

1221
00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:41,399
Speaker 1: to boad, nose to nose, So we're like Joe.

1222
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:43,440
Speaker 2: Those aisles are small to begin with.

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Speaker 1: The parking lot.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, bra

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Speaker 2: Brace today people,