WEBVTT - Tech News: US Senate Takes Stand Against TikTok

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to tech Stuff, a production from my Heart Radio.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey there, and welcome to tech Stuff. I'm your host,

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<v Speaker 1>Jonathan Strickland. I'm an executive producer with I Heart Radio

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<v Speaker 1>and how the tech are you? It is time for

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<v Speaker 1>the Tech News for Thursday, December twenty two. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I do news episodes on Tuesdays and Thursdays, and every

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<v Speaker 1>time a Thursday rolls around, I worry that I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have enough material to really do a decent episode.

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<v Speaker 1>But that is definitely not a problem. Today we have

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<v Speaker 1>a ton to talk about, including some updates on stories

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<v Speaker 1>that we've chatted about in previous news episodes, including Tuesdays.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's begin with f t X. Now, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do a full catch up on f t X

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<v Speaker 1>because I actually did that on Tuesday's episode. So if

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<v Speaker 1>you don't know what f t X is and you

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<v Speaker 1>want to know, I recommend just listening to the first

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<v Speaker 1>five minutes or so of Tuesday's show and then that'll

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<v Speaker 1>get you up to speed. So first up is the

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<v Speaker 1>matter of Sam Bankman Freed or SBF. He's a co

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<v Speaker 1>founder of the cryptocurrency exchange f t X, so he

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<v Speaker 1>was arrested on Monday evening, which I talked about on

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<v Speaker 1>Tuesday's episode. But now we've learned that if he's convicted

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<v Speaker 1>of the crimes he stands accused of, he could face

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<v Speaker 1>a maximum of a hundred fifteen years in prison. He

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<v Speaker 1>could spend the rest of his life in prison. He

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<v Speaker 1>has eight federal counts against him. Those charges range from

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<v Speaker 1>wire fraud to securities fraud to money laundering. Now, all

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<v Speaker 1>that being said, I think it is highly unlikely he'll

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<v Speaker 1>face anything close to a hundred fifteen years. Uh, He's

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<v Speaker 1>still likely to end up with a prison sentence, perhaps

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<v Speaker 1>a considerable one, like ten years or so. But one

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<v Speaker 1>challenge for the prosecution is proving beyond a reasonable doubt

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<v Speaker 1>that SPF was committing fraud. So here in the United States,

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<v Speaker 1>we have a saying that goes ignorance of the law

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<v Speaker 1>is no excuse. Now, generally, what that means is that

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<v Speaker 1>if you unknowingly break a law, it still means you

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<v Speaker 1>broke a law, and you can still be held accountable

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<v Speaker 1>for it. Being ignorant of law does not excuse you

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<v Speaker 1>from accountability. However, there are a few crimes that require

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<v Speaker 1>things like intent and understanding to be considered a crime.

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<v Speaker 1>So fraud is an example fraud, at least in some jurisdictions.

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<v Speaker 1>Fraud is a crime that carries with it the concept

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<v Speaker 1>of intent that you intended to defraud someone. If you

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<v Speaker 1>did not intend to do it and it happened by accident,

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<v Speaker 1>then it's not really fraud at least in those jurisdictions.

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<v Speaker 1>It could still be some other crime, but it would

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<v Speaker 1>not be fraud. There are other examples of crimes where

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<v Speaker 1>intent makes a different. So that's what separates something like

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<v Speaker 1>voluntary manslaughter from involuntary manslaughter. Is intent. Anyway, I think

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<v Speaker 1>the odds are at least some charges will stick to

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<v Speaker 1>SBF and he's going to be looking at a prison

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<v Speaker 1>sentence of at least a few years, just I don't

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<v Speaker 1>expect the hundred fifteen max to to fall on his shoulders. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 1>f t X is in the process of going through bankruptcy,

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<v Speaker 1>and really what they're going through is liquidating assets and

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<v Speaker 1>trying to recapture as much value as they can to

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<v Speaker 1>return to creditors and investors. So Tuesday I mentioned how

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<v Speaker 1>the government of the Bahamas wanted to get involved in

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<v Speaker 1>how certain f t X assets are being handled because

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<v Speaker 1>f t X established headquarters in the Bahamas a while back,

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<v Speaker 1>and SPF and one of his buddies bought thirty five

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<v Speaker 1>properties around New Providence, Bahamas, and in total those properties

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<v Speaker 1>value at around two fifty million dollars. You've got a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of branches of f t X that are involved

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<v Speaker 1>in this as well. There's f t X, the American company.

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<v Speaker 1>There's f t X Digital Markets that's the Bahamanian branch

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<v Speaker 1>of f t X. And what the American branch of

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<v Speaker 1>f t X is essentially saying is we don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to share any information with f t X Digital Markets

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<v Speaker 1>because we don't trust the government of the Bahamas and

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<v Speaker 1>we worry that the government will steal stuff that we're

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<v Speaker 1>trying to liquidate, that they will lean on ft X

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<v Speaker 1>Digital Markets and get that information, and then our investors

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<v Speaker 1>will not get the value that they deserve. Meanwhile, ft

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<v Speaker 1>X Digital is saying this is nonsense. We were appointed

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<v Speaker 1>by a court order and our job is to liquidate

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<v Speaker 1>assets to recover money for investors and creditors too. But

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<v Speaker 1>we do that unless we actually have access to data.

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<v Speaker 1>So our job is the same as your job is

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<v Speaker 1>essentially what they're saying, then you have the government of

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<v Speaker 1>the Bahamas and it's like, hey, it's against the law

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<v Speaker 1>for matters involving Bahamanian land to be arbitrated outside of

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<v Speaker 1>the Bahamas. So it's a big old mess. In other words, Ultimately,

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<v Speaker 1>the only job FTX really has right now is to

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<v Speaker 1>get as much value from whatever assets it has and

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<v Speaker 1>to then hand that over to the creditors and the investors.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's no surprise that we're seeing this kind of

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<v Speaker 1>tug of war between the branches as well as the

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<v Speaker 1>Bahamanian government. So yeah, everybody feels like they're owed a

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<v Speaker 1>piece of this, and so there's gonna be probably some

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<v Speaker 1>pretty nasty arguments about how it needs to be divvied up,

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<v Speaker 1>because there are a lot of people who are holding

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<v Speaker 1>the bag right now and they don't. They don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to They don't want to be holding the bag. If anything,

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<v Speaker 1>they want that bag to be very very small, if

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<v Speaker 1>they have to hold a bag at all. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this isn't over with. Then. Over at Binance, which is

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<v Speaker 1>the largest cryptocurrency exchange, it's also an entity that had

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<v Speaker 1>let's say, a contentious relationship with f t X. The

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<v Speaker 1>CEO of Binance is trying to calm matters. Internally, his

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<v Speaker 1>name's Chong Peng Zoo. He's also known as c Z

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<v Speaker 1>because we just love initialisms in crypto. And he sent

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<v Speaker 1>a memo to employees and acknowledge that folks have recently

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<v Speaker 1>withdrawn a lot of money from Finance, more than a

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<v Speaker 1>billion dollars in one day. Some estimates say that in

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<v Speaker 1>the week leading up to yesterday that customers have removed

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<v Speaker 1>more than three and a half billion dollars from the exchange.

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<v Speaker 1>But he says, you know, this happens like there are

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<v Speaker 1>days where we might have a billion in deposits in

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<v Speaker 1>other days where you might have a billion in withdrawals.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not a cause for alarm. He did also warn

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<v Speaker 1>that crypto in general is in for rough time, but quote,

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<v Speaker 1>this organization was built to last. As long as we

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<v Speaker 1>continue to offer users the best product, user experience, and

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<v Speaker 1>frictionless trading environment, Finance will survive any crypto winter end.

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<v Speaker 1>Quote Now, as I mentioned on Tuesday, Binance is also

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<v Speaker 1>the subject of a US Department of Justice investigation. There

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<v Speaker 1>are concerns that some of the shenanigans that we're going

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<v Speaker 1>on at f t X are also happening over at Binance,

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<v Speaker 1>including like ten billion dollars of illegal payments processing. While

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<v Speaker 1>Binance did commission a report from a third party to

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<v Speaker 1>be more transparent about the company's reserves, that report has

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<v Speaker 1>not satisfied everyone out there, So this too, is a

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<v Speaker 1>developing story. Another developing story revolves around the US government's

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<v Speaker 1>stance on TikTok. So on Tuesday, I talked about how

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<v Speaker 1>there are some proposals developing in Congress that would ban

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<v Speaker 1>TikTok in the United States unless the company becomes a

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<v Speaker 1>true the US based business, essentially cutting all ties to

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<v Speaker 1>China because right now TikTok is a subsidiary of a

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<v Speaker 1>Chinese company called byte Dance. Well, now the U s

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<v Speaker 1>Senate has voted to ban federal employees from installing TikTok

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<v Speaker 1>on government owned devices. Now, this is obviously not like

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<v Speaker 1>a nationwide ban on TikTok for everybody. It's rather another

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<v Speaker 1>display of how government officials are worried that TikTok the

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<v Speaker 1>video platform could be used by the Chinese Communist Party

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<v Speaker 1>as a way to gather information about people in the US,

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<v Speaker 1>something that TikTok reps have denied repeatedly in the past.

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<v Speaker 1>A few state governments have already passed similar laws for

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<v Speaker 1>state government employees, so this federal vote will also have

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<v Speaker 1>to pass the House of Representatives before it can then

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<v Speaker 1>be sent to President Biden's office for his signature, which

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<v Speaker 1>would be interesting to see because Biden and his administration

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<v Speaker 1>have been an active negotiations with to Talk in an

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<v Speaker 1>effort to find a way where TikTok can operate within

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<v Speaker 1>the US without fear of it serving as spyware for China. Now, personally,

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<v Speaker 1>I actually think it's okay to tell federal government employees, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>if the phone belongs to the federal government, don't put

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<v Speaker 1>TikTok on the phone. You can save TikTok for your

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<v Speaker 1>own personal device. Now, maybe that's because I also think

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<v Speaker 1>it would be weird for a lot of companies to say, oh, sure,

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<v Speaker 1>go ahead and put TikTok on your corporate device. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's totally fair for a corporation and say, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, just don't You can do it for your

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<v Speaker 1>own personal one, but for your work phone, don't put

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<v Speaker 1>it on there. I think the same thing should be

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<v Speaker 1>true for government employees. But then, as I have said

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<v Speaker 1>many times, I am old and grouchy and I'm only

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<v Speaker 1>getting more so with every passing day. Now. Speaking of TikTok,

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<v Speaker 1>the Center for Countering Digital Hate released a report that

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<v Speaker 1>claims TikTok's algorithm is regularly serving up harmful in the

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<v Speaker 1>sial to young users. So researchers with the organization created

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<v Speaker 1>accounts fake accounts on TikTok. So the accounts claimed to

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<v Speaker 1>be representing a thirteen year old user. That's the minimum

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<v Speaker 1>age that you can be on TikTok. They then chose

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<v Speaker 1>mental health, embody image as areas of interest. With one

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<v Speaker 1>of these accounts they used a female user name, and

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<v Speaker 1>the other one they used the user name that had

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<v Speaker 1>lose weight as part of the name, just to see

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<v Speaker 1>if that would have any effect on the content they received.

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<v Speaker 1>And according to the researchers, it took less than three

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<v Speaker 1>minutes before they started to encounter content related to suicide

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<v Speaker 1>and within eight minutes they started seeing content about eating disorders.

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<v Speaker 1>And when I say content about, I mean content promoting

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<v Speaker 1>these things, not content raising awareness about them. Are trying

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<v Speaker 1>to counsel people or to prevent problems, but rather to

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<v Speaker 1>incite them. So the researchers said it was clear that

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<v Speaker 1>TikTok algorithm was amplifying these harmful messages and that the

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<v Speaker 1>effect on young users could be really dangerous. It could

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<v Speaker 1>contribute to mental health issues. Now, behind the scenes, what

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<v Speaker 1>appears to be going on is that TikTok's algorithm selects

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<v Speaker 1>from content that the algorithm estimates will be of interest

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<v Speaker 1>to the user. When something is a hit, the algorithm

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<v Speaker 1>looks for similar content, and by a hit, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>did did a person watch the video all the way through?

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<v Speaker 1>So as you spend more time paying attention to certain

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<v Speaker 1>types of content, what the algorithm is doing is just

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<v Speaker 1>trying to serve up similar content to you in the

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<v Speaker 1>thought that this will keep you on TikTok longer. So

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<v Speaker 1>at best you could say that the algorithm is ultimately

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<v Speaker 1>content agnostic. It's not necessarily trying to harm anyone, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's not trying to save anyone either. Instead, it's just

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<v Speaker 1>trying to keep people on the app for as long

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<v Speaker 1>as possible. And if terrible traumatic content is what's keeping

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<v Speaker 1>someone on there, well it's just gonna keep on sending

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<v Speaker 1>that content on. So if people are watching videos that

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<v Speaker 1>contain harmful messages, they'll keep getting more of those. And again,

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<v Speaker 1>the issue here is one of amplification. It's not so

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<v Speaker 1>much that you're you know, shouldn't be allowed to say

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<v Speaker 1>bad things, although you should always know that consequences can

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<v Speaker 1>come from saying bad things, but that it's the artificial

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<v Speaker 1>amplification of those messages and the potential harm that can

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<v Speaker 1>cause two users. So it's similar to problems that we've

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<v Speaker 1>seen on other platforms like Facebook, where recommendation algorithms have

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<v Speaker 1>played a big part in, say, the proliferation of misinformation.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure these kinds of studies will fuel more efforts

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<v Speaker 1>on the regulatory and government side as well. A lot

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<v Speaker 1>of that focus has been on the potential use of

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<v Speaker 1>TikTok as spywear essentially, but some of it is also

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<v Speaker 1>on a concern about how it could be affecting the

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<v Speaker 1>mental health of users, particularly young users. There's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of armchair psychology too about whether or not TikTok is

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely ruining attention spans and making it impossible for younger

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<v Speaker 1>people to pay attention to anything that lasts longer than

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<v Speaker 1>a few seconds. Uh. Again, I don't have any actual

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<v Speaker 1>hard data on that. I don't know if that's really

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<v Speaker 1>the case. If it is, I'm doomed because all these

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<v Speaker 1>episodes are long. Alright, with that, we're gonna take a

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<v Speaker 1>quick break. When we come back, we've got some more news. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we're back. So Tesla's stock price hit their lowest point

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<v Speaker 1>in two years yesterday. Reuters sites investors who are concerned

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<v Speaker 1>that CEO Elon Musk is spending too much of his

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<v Speaker 1>time and energy over at Twitter, which you know, at

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<v Speaker 1>least from the surface, appears to be a valid concern.

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<v Speaker 1>According to filings with the U S Securities and Exchange

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<v Speaker 1>Commission or the SEC, Elon Musk himself offloaded millions of

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<v Speaker 1>his own personal shares of Tesla. Now, keep in mind,

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<v Speaker 1>Musk is still the majority owner of Tesla. He still

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<v Speaker 1>has the more most shares of anybody, So while he

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<v Speaker 1>sold off millions, he's got millions more. But the value

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<v Speaker 1>of the stocks he sold off, according to those filings,

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<v Speaker 1>was three point five billion dollars yauza. Now, generally speaking,

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<v Speaker 1>when a CEO sells off large chunks of their own

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<v Speaker 1>shares of the company, they're they're headed um. Investors can

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<v Speaker 1>get a little worried because sometimes they'll take it as

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<v Speaker 1>a sign that the CEO foresees troubled waters ahead. And

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<v Speaker 1>that the CEO has lost confidence in their own business. However,

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<v Speaker 1>in this case, Musk's ongoing Twitter issues maybe playing a

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<v Speaker 1>part in his decision to sell off stocks. But because

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<v Speaker 1>Twitter has billions of dollars of debt and massive interest

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<v Speaker 1>payments coming in off that debt, and the banks that

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<v Speaker 1>helped Musk secure financing for his purchase of Twitter have

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<v Speaker 1>reportedly been looking at margin loans on Musk's Tesla stock,

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<v Speaker 1>and the declining price of the stock is likely not

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<v Speaker 1>a welcome site to those banks. But with all that

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<v Speaker 1>being said, I just checked the Tesla stock as I'm

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<v Speaker 1>recording this episode, and it's currently trading at a hundred

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<v Speaker 1>fifty seven dollars, so it's up slightly from its low

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<v Speaker 1>of around a hundred fifty six dollars. So it could

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<v Speaker 1>be that Musk's cashing out of those stocks won't have

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<v Speaker 1>as big a ripple as some might suspect. We'll have

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<v Speaker 1>to wait and see. And across town over at Twitter,

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<v Speaker 1>the New York Times reports that Twitter has kind of

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<v Speaker 1>stopped paying rent on its offices, you know the offices

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<v Speaker 1>that Elon Musk has demanded that everyone who still works

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<v Speaker 1>at Twitter returns to those offices, In fact, there are

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<v Speaker 1>offices that, at least in the San Francisco branch, employees

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<v Speaker 1>had set up beds so they could work increasingly long

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<v Speaker 1>hours without actually leaving because Elon Musk is determined to

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<v Speaker 1>be visited by three spirits in you know, nine days

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<v Speaker 1>or so. Now, apparently employees have been instructed to not

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<v Speaker 1>pay vendors, which you know, is another great sign of

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<v Speaker 1>a company doing a okay. It's also a totally cool

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<v Speaker 1>business practice to not pay the people who provided goods

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<v Speaker 1>and services to you. It's not at all scummy. This

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<v Speaker 1>also includes a nearly two hundred thousand dollar bill for

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<v Speaker 1>private charter flights. At least according to a lawsuit, these

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<v Speaker 1>would be flights that Twitter arranged when Musk was taking

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<v Speaker 1>over the company and flying back and forth to visit

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<v Speaker 1>various offices. There have allegedly been discussions at the executive

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<v Speaker 1>level about what consequences the company might face if it

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<v Speaker 1>were to you know, not pay severance on all those

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<v Speaker 1>in employees who received a severance package upon being laid

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<v Speaker 1>off from the company, The question being would it be

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<v Speaker 1>cheaper to pay severance or just fight the lawsuits that

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<v Speaker 1>would come in. Would we rather just fight lawsuits, which

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<v Speaker 1>gross right, and if anyone in Twitter were to go

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<v Speaker 1>blabbing to the press about stuff happening when the company,

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<v Speaker 1>Musk says he would bring the wrath of the gods

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<v Speaker 1>down on them, though not in so many words. He

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<v Speaker 1>would just say, you sign a non disclosure agreement and

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<v Speaker 1>we will take you to court and sue you to

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<v Speaker 1>the fullest extent of the law. In fact, he might

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<v Speaker 1>need six ghosts. Then there's the matter of Ahmad abu Amo.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a former Twitter employee who is now facing three

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<v Speaker 1>and a half years of prison. Why well, he was

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<v Speaker 1>convicted earlier this year of spying on behalf of the

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<v Speaker 1>Saudi Arabian government while he was working for Twitter, and

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<v Speaker 1>he worked at Twitter from fifteen. During that time, he

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<v Speaker 1>apparently used his access as a media partnerships manager to

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<v Speaker 1>gather data about people who have been critical of the

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<v Speaker 1>Saudi Arabian government. Then he sent that data too, said government.

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<v Speaker 1>And just a reminder, this is the same government that

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<v Speaker 1>allegedly ordered the murder of a journalist named Jamal ka Shogi.

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<v Speaker 1>I say allegedly because until it's completely proven, I guess

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<v Speaker 1>I need to. But everyone essentially agrees that Jamalka Shogi

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<v Speaker 1>was assassinated on behalf of the Saudi Arabian government. This

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<v Speaker 1>is also the government that has sentenced people to more

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<v Speaker 1>than ten years in jail for criticizing the government on

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<v Speaker 1>social media in the past. And it's also the same

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<v Speaker 1>government that has a significant ownership stake in the current

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<v Speaker 1>version of Twitter. In fact, there I believe the second

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<v Speaker 1>largest stakeholder behind Elon Musk. Anyway, secutors showed how abu

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<v Speaker 1>Omo received large payments from the Saudi government as well

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<v Speaker 1>as the gift of a watch valued at more than

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<v Speaker 1>forty grand which oh, come on. Anyway, he has already

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<v Speaker 1>been convicted, as I said, and now he has been

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<v Speaker 1>sentenced to three and a half years in prison on

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<v Speaker 1>counts of acting as a foreign agent, acting in the

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<v Speaker 1>in the context of a money launderer, uh falsification of records,

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<v Speaker 1>and other charges as well. By the way, the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that he's just looking at three and a half years

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<v Speaker 1>is kind of why I said at the beginning of

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<v Speaker 1>this episode that I don't think SPF is going to

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<v Speaker 1>have that full hundred fifteen year sentence thrown at him

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<v Speaker 1>if he should be convicted. And Kenya Amnesty International is

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<v Speaker 1>backing a lawsuit against Meta that claims that the company

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<v Speaker 1>allowed hate speech and calls for inciting violence to spread

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<v Speaker 1>without moderation on Facebook and it exacerbated the war and

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<v Speaker 1>Uh Tigrai, which is a northern province in Ethiopia. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>the conflict in Ethiopia is a really complicated one. It

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<v Speaker 1>involves a very long history of different ethnic groups and

0:20:16.600 --> 0:20:22.400
<v Speaker 1>foreign uh countries within the country vying for power. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>the country has been in conflict way more frequently than

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<v Speaker 1>it has enjoyed peace in modern history. The recent conflicts

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<v Speaker 1>have largely revolved around Ti Gray, which in recent Ethiopian

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<v Speaker 1>history had been a dominant political power before the balance

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<v Speaker 1>shifted to other groups within Ethiopia. In early November, these

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<v Speaker 1>various parties involved in the war agreed to a ceasefire,

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<v Speaker 1>but this lawsuit is arguing that Meata was complacent by

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<v Speaker 1>allowing messages that encouraged violence and abuse throughout Ethiopia and

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<v Speaker 1>made it harder for these opposing parties to arrive at

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<v Speaker 1>any sort of ceasefire, and that as a result, many

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<v Speaker 1>people suffered and died, some indirectly from the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>this kind of language was spreading like wildfire on Facebook

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<v Speaker 1>in Ethiopia, some directly that there have been arguments that

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<v Speaker 1>some people were targeted as a result of hate speech

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<v Speaker 1>that was spreading across Facebook. The lawsuits aim is to

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<v Speaker 1>force Meta to create a compensation fund valued at around

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<v Speaker 1>one point three billion dollars for the purposes of paying

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<v Speaker 1>restitution to people who are victims of hate and violence

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<v Speaker 1>on Facebook. Now, if you've listened to tech stuff long

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<v Speaker 1>enough or paid attention to world news, you know that

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<v Speaker 1>while Facebook has been in the spotlight for allowing harmful

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<v Speaker 1>misinformation to spread here in the United States, it's way

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<v Speaker 1>more of a problem in non English speaking countries. The

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<v Speaker 1>company has fewer resources dedicated to preventing that kind of

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<v Speaker 1>abuse on the platform. They have frankly not made it

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<v Speaker 1>a priority to really tackle those problems in non English

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<v Speaker 1>speaking countries, particularly in the developing world. So far, Facebook's

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<v Speaker 1>response has been fairly boiler plate. The company has rules

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<v Speaker 1>and policies about the types of stuff that's allowed on

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<v Speaker 1>the platform, and it works hard to remove any material

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<v Speaker 1>that violates those rules. So we'll have to keep an

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<v Speaker 1>eye on this. See where this lawsuit develops from here.

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<v Speaker 1>Wired reports that several Russian cities have experienced disruption in

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<v Speaker 1>GPS signals over the last week. This sort of thing

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<v Speaker 1>can sometimes be the result of attacks on infrastructure. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's possible to actually jam signals or to otherwise inhibit them,

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<v Speaker 1>to spoof them so that you get incorrect information. But

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<v Speaker 1>in this case, the Russian government may be the reason

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<v Speaker 1>for the disruption itself. Ukraine forces have been relying on

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<v Speaker 1>drones to strike important cities within Russia as Ukraine and

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<v Speaker 1>Russia continue their war, and so it's possible that Russian

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<v Speaker 1>authorities have ordered the disruption of GPS in an attempt

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<v Speaker 1>to foil drone navigation systems and thus protect potential targets.

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<v Speaker 1>According to analysts, the zones affected by GPS disruption measure

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<v Speaker 1>hundreds or sometimes even thousands of kilometers in diameter around

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<v Speaker 1>important cities. Now I imagine that it must be pretty

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<v Speaker 1>challenging to navigate in those cities for a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>folks right now. Just as a side note, this also

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<v Speaker 1>demonstrates that there's real value in learning how to read

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<v Speaker 1>a paper roadmap, and having a physical roadmap in your

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<v Speaker 1>vehicle is a good idea, and over dependence on technology

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<v Speaker 1>can become a problem if that technology should fail for

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<v Speaker 1>whatever reasons. So just maybe one of your stocking stuffers

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<v Speaker 1>this holiday season, or your Hanukkah gifts, or you know,

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<v Speaker 1>just something you want to buy for yourself should be

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<v Speaker 1>a roadmap and just familiarize yourself with it so that

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<v Speaker 1>in case you should ever need it, you know how

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<v Speaker 1>to read it. Okay, that's enough of that. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>come back after this break and finish up with a

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<v Speaker 1>few more news items. But first let's listen to these messages.

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<v Speaker 1>We're back. Okay, I've got a positive story here. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a short one. A couple of motorists are really thankful

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<v Speaker 1>for the iPhone fourteen's satellite connectivity, which is available on

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<v Speaker 1>the iPhone fourteen and the iPhone fourteen Pro. These two

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<v Speaker 1>motorists were in a car accident. They were driving down

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<v Speaker 1>a road in California through some canyons and cell services

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<v Speaker 1>pretty hard to come by in this particular region of

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<v Speaker 1>Los Angeles County, not the city of the county, and

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<v Speaker 1>their vehicles slid off the road and it went down

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<v Speaker 1>the side of a mountain. Fortunately, the two were able

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<v Speaker 1>to get out of the car. They were able to

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<v Speaker 1>connect the their iPhone fourteen to a satellite and they

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<v Speaker 1>were able to contact emergency services. Emergency services, then we're

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<v Speaker 1>able to use the location data to direct a rescue

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<v Speaker 1>helicopter to their location where they were rescued and then

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<v Speaker 1>taken to a hospital for observation. And I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>include the story because it has a happy ending and

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<v Speaker 1>it shows how tech really can make a huge and

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<v Speaker 1>positive difference. Like I know, in my news items, I

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<v Speaker 1>frequently am focusing on some pretty dark stuff that involves tech.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, tech is a tool. It's just like

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<v Speaker 1>Hamlet said, there's nothing good or bad, but thinking makes

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<v Speaker 1>it so. While tools neither good nor bad, it's just

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<v Speaker 1>and how you use it, and you can use them

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<v Speaker 1>in really good, positive ways. This is one of them.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh, honestly, I'm very thankful that Apple included the

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<v Speaker 1>satellite connectivity in the most recent iPhones because it means

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<v Speaker 1>that people like this have another lifeline in situations where

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<v Speaker 1>otherwise they might be completely helpless. In other Apple use

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<v Speaker 1>the company is reportedly getting ready to allow third party

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<v Speaker 1>app stores on iOS for the first time ever, so

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<v Speaker 1>this would include stuff like Amazon's App Store, for example,

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<v Speaker 1>which typically you would not be able to install on

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<v Speaker 1>an iOS device or the Epic Game Store. Again, you

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't be able to do that. You would have to

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<v Speaker 1>do everything through Apple itself. Now, the reason for this

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<v Speaker 1>change is because not because Apple suddenly became really hospitable.

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<v Speaker 1>It's because the EU passed the Digital Markets Act and

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<v Speaker 1>it cracks down on policies that would otherwise give a

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<v Speaker 1>platform and unfair advantage over would be competitors. So the

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<v Speaker 1>Act makes it illegal for a company to become kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a gatekeeper to its own ecosystem if that ecosystem

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<v Speaker 1>is like a significantly large and important one like iOS. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>whether this is ultimately going to lead to a catastrophic

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<v Speaker 1>downturn for users safety, which Apple has repeatedly warned about,

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<v Speaker 1>They've said that's the reason they have an allow it

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<v Speaker 1>in the past. That remains to be seen. Now, I

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<v Speaker 1>will say, while I'm skeptical that it's going to lead

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<v Speaker 1>to the downfall of civilization, it is always a good

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<v Speaker 1>idea to do research before you sideload anything onto a device.

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<v Speaker 1>When you sidestep the official you know, app store, make

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<v Speaker 1>sure that whatever it is you're about to download and

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<v Speaker 1>install is on the up and up, because otherwise you

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<v Speaker 1>can run into problems. A hacker claims to have used

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<v Speaker 1>a bit of social engineering to get access to an

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<v Speaker 1>important FBI database. The database is called infra Guard and

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<v Speaker 1>it is essentially a collection of like eighty thousand people

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<v Speaker 1>in various organizations, including government agencies as well as corporations,

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<v Speaker 1>and these are people who are considered to be important

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes to protecting US infrastructure. The hacker claims

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<v Speaker 1>they got access to this by posing as the CEO

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<v Speaker 1>of a company and said that they were actually surprised

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<v Speaker 1>at how poor the vetting process was when they uh

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<v Speaker 1>when they essentially applied to get access, and then we're

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<v Speaker 1>granted access to this database. So this is kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like a directory of really important people that are related

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<v Speaker 1>to US infrastructure. The hacker has been on cybercriminal forums

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<v Speaker 1>asking for fifty thousand bucks in return for this database. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>the info in this database appears to be somewhat limited.

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<v Speaker 1>Most entries consist of like a name and an email

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<v Speaker 1>address and that's about it. But this could still serve

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<v Speaker 1>as a valuable list for someone who wants to engage

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<v Speaker 1>in spear fishing. This is a targeted version of fishing

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<v Speaker 1>to get you know, sensitive information. It's an attempt to

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<v Speaker 1>compromise someone and trick them into handing over access to

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<v Speaker 1>more important systems bad form FBI, that's the oldest trick

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<v Speaker 1>in the book. YouTube announced that soon bots will be

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<v Speaker 1>able to remove comments deemed to be abusive, and will

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<v Speaker 1>also be able to issue temporary bands for at least

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<v Speaker 1>short while two users who are being jerks in the

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<v Speaker 1>comments sections of the platform. So if you get multiple

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<v Speaker 1>warnings from a bot that you know your comments are

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<v Speaker 1>being removed because you're being um a jerk face, then

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<v Speaker 1>the bot can ultimately give you a twenty four hour

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<v Speaker 1>time out where you can't comment on anything in that

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four hours. It does not sound like channel owners

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<v Speaker 1>are going to have the option to opt out of

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<v Speaker 1>this particular policy, that it's just kind of there by default,

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<v Speaker 1>And as Ron Amadeo of artist Hetnica points out, this

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<v Speaker 1>approach is probably the only one that YouTube can feasibly take.

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<v Speaker 1>You have hundreds of hours of content that has uploaded

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<v Speaker 1>to YouTube every single minute of the day, plus you

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<v Speaker 1>have countless live streams active at any given time, so

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<v Speaker 1>there's just no way that the company could dedicate a

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<v Speaker 1>large enough staff of human content moderators to oversee everything,

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<v Speaker 1>it would be impossible. So really the question is going

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<v Speaker 1>to end up being is automated content moderation better than

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<v Speaker 1>no content moderation? We'll have to find out. Executives at

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<v Speaker 1>Google apparently discussed the phenomenon of chat GPT recently. That's

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<v Speaker 1>an AI chat bot, and it's proven to be really compelling.

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<v Speaker 1>I've talked about it previously on tech Stuff. The chat

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<v Speaker 1>bought is capable of putting together responses to various queries

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<v Speaker 1>in a way that seems authoritative and trustworthy. Now I

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<v Speaker 1>say seems authoritative and trustworthy because folks have pointed out

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<v Speaker 1>that at least in some cases, the responses generated can

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes include questionable or outright wrong information, but the style

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<v Speaker 1>of presentation seems reliable and structured, and that can give

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<v Speaker 1>the reader the incorrect feeling that they can count on

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<v Speaker 1>the information being given to them that it's a good answer,

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<v Speaker 1>when in reality it may not be. As such, the

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<v Speaker 1>Google executives said that while Google has similar capabilities with

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<v Speaker 1>their AI chat bots, they are not putting them out

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<v Speaker 1>there out of a concern that they pose a quote

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<v Speaker 1>unquote reputational risk due to issues with factuality and bias,

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<v Speaker 1>and as such, a model similar to chat GPT is

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<v Speaker 1>not likely to replace our current method of search anytime soon. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>over time, maybe we will see search gravitate toward a

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<v Speaker 1>more semantic web kind of presentation in the future. That's

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<v Speaker 1>where you would log into the web, you would ask

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<v Speaker 1>whatever it was you wanted, and the web would quote

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<v Speaker 1>unquote understand what you were asking based upon who you were,

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<v Speaker 1>your your situation in life, you know, all these sort

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<v Speaker 1>of factors that your browser can't do right now. But

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<v Speaker 1>that's the concept of the semantic web, and a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people have been kind of comparing chat GPT with

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<v Speaker 1>that idea. But chat GPT is is far more limited

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<v Speaker 1>than the concept of semantic web would require. So uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's tough right now. Like it's really tough when you

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<v Speaker 1>essentially have a black box that generates answers when you

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<v Speaker 1>ask questions, but it doesn't tell you how it came

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<v Speaker 1>to those answers. That means you probably shouldn't put all

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<v Speaker 1>your eggs in that mysterious basket. Finally, a British man

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<v Speaker 1>named Amar Reshi used AI to create a children's book,

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<v Speaker 1>and now he says people have been sending him abusive

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<v Speaker 1>and threatening messages, so Reshi used chat gpt to generate

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<v Speaker 1>a story about a character named Alice and her friendly

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<v Speaker 1>robots Sparkle as Alice tries to learn about technology. He

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<v Speaker 1>had to refine the story. He had to come up

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<v Speaker 1>this in different ways and ask different questions of chat gpt,

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<v Speaker 1>but ultimately chat gpt generated the basic story. Now, to

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<v Speaker 1>illustrate the story, he used an app called mid journey,

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<v Speaker 1>and it makes images based off simple textual prompts. He said. Likewise,

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<v Speaker 1>he had to refine his search results many, many, many

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<v Speaker 1>times because mid Journey would often generate stuff that was,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, not really fitting for a children's book, he said.

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<v Speaker 1>In some cases, if he was writing a horror novel,

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<v Speaker 1>it would have been the right way to go. But

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<v Speaker 1>over time he was able to get those refined and

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<v Speaker 1>then once he was happy with the results, he collected

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<v Speaker 1>them and then published a children's book using Amazon's Kindled

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<v Speaker 1>direct publishing tool. And his close friends all thought this

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<v Speaker 1>was a super cute idea. Like he was doing it

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, he wanted to give a gift to

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<v Speaker 1>friends who had little kids. And then he shared it

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<v Speaker 1>with a slightly larger group, and then he went on

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<v Speaker 1>Twitter and talked about it, and that's when he started

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<v Speaker 1>getting pushback. You had authors and illustrators who would criticize

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<v Speaker 1>Reshi for outsourcing human creativity two machines, and they argued

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<v Speaker 1>that his actions cheapen the artistry that goes into these pursuits.

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<v Speaker 1>They're also worried that these systems which use machine learning

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<v Speaker 1>are using their own works as source material in order

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<v Speaker 1>to learn that these machines are going to, over time

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<v Speaker 1>get better and better at copying specific styles. So you

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<v Speaker 1>could say, like, I want a poem in the style

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<v Speaker 1>of Dr SEUs about such and such, and ultimately you

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<v Speaker 1>could get to a point where you would get a

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<v Speaker 1>poem that seemed to have been written by Dr SEUs,

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<v Speaker 1>but wasn't. That's something that people are really concerned about.

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<v Speaker 1>Creatives are really concerned about that, and I don't blame them.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's a legitimate concern. They're also, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>really worried that that you'll have entities out there that

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<v Speaker 1>would usually do you know, work for higher kind of jobs,

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<v Speaker 1>turned to AI and just be satisfied that it's quote

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<v Speaker 1>unquote good enough that the work produced will not be

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<v Speaker 1>great work not nearly as great as what a human

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<v Speaker 1>would produce. But that the the people doing the hiring

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<v Speaker 1>might not care because they're able to get that work

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<v Speaker 1>for free as opposed to having to pay someone for it. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Reschi says he was surprised at receiving abuse and threats,

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<v Speaker 1>but he does understand how artists and authors feel threatened

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<v Speaker 1>and concerned, and he even went on to say that

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<v Speaker 1>those concerns could be quite valid, that you know those

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<v Speaker 1>are There's some questions that need to be answered, like

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<v Speaker 1>how are these artists AI programs being trained? Are they

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<v Speaker 1>being trained on copy written works, on things that are

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<v Speaker 1>being developed by illustrators and artists today, and is it

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<v Speaker 1>not fair? Like is it unfair for those artists to

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<v Speaker 1>go uncompensated while meanwhile these AI programs are potentially copying

0:35:50.840 --> 0:35:54.359
<v Speaker 1>their styles. These are tough questions, and honestly, I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's great to start asking questions like this and to

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<v Speaker 1>really dive down in to the ethics of how we

0:36:02.280 --> 0:36:05.400
<v Speaker 1>use a I and UH. I think that these are

0:36:05.440 --> 0:36:08.359
<v Speaker 1>conversations we have to really start jumping into. We thought

0:36:08.400 --> 0:36:11.440
<v Speaker 1>we probably wouldn't need to worry about them for years. No,

0:36:11.600 --> 0:36:14.279
<v Speaker 1>that time is now. We have to have these conversations

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<v Speaker 1>about the ethics of AI now in order to kind

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<v Speaker 1>of figure out best practices and ways that we're not

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<v Speaker 1>harming people or exploiting them or stealing from them, like

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<v Speaker 1>all these things are very important. So I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>a fascinating story. I think it was a fascinating experiment.

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<v Speaker 1>And if if Freshie had not, you know, published it

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<v Speaker 1>more widely, if you had not publicized it more widely,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess I should say probably nothing would have come

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<v Speaker 1>of it. But because of that, it just created this

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<v Speaker 1>storm of controversy and unfortunately, of threats. I think that

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<v Speaker 1>anyone threatening somebody for doing something like this is definitively

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<v Speaker 1>in the wrong. They should not do that. That is

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<v Speaker 1>not the way to go ever, so shame on those folks,

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<v Speaker 1>like they need to get some perspective here. But it

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<v Speaker 1>does mean that we need to start having these conversations, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>in order to come to a common understanding. Okay, that's it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it for the news for this week. I will

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<v Speaker 1>be coming to you next week, hopefully with some episodes

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<v Speaker 1>that will kind of wrap up some of the or

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<v Speaker 1>maybe not wrap up, but at least touch on some

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<v Speaker 1>of the big stories that unfolded in tech this year.

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<v Speaker 1>So next week will probably be a lot of episodes

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<v Speaker 1>about that instead of the normal tech news episodes. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it'll probably just be a continuation of the big

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<v Speaker 1>stories of two, just based upon the list of headlines

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<v Speaker 1>I have written down. I haven't actually started writing it yet,

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<v Speaker 1>so I suspect it's going to be a very long

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