WEBVTT - Why Do We Call 911 in an Emergency?

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Part-Time Genius, a production of Kaleidoscope and iHeartRadio.

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<v Speaker 1>Guess what, Will?

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<v Speaker 2>What's up, Mango?

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<v Speaker 1>So I was skimming this old piece in Popular Mechanics

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<v Speaker 1>this week, and this one line caught my eye. Did

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<v Speaker 1>you know that the vehicle from Ghostbusters, the original Ectomobile,

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<v Speaker 1>is actually a hearse?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, one thing I feel like I do know

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<v Speaker 2>is we've talked a lot about Ghostbusters on this show recently.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you noticed that?

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<v Speaker 1>I have.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway, I guess I didn't really think about it, but

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<v Speaker 2>that does make sense. It's got such a weird shape

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<v Speaker 2>to the car.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the director sort of souped it up. And apparently

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<v Speaker 1>the original design for the Ghostbusters car was black with

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<v Speaker 1>purple streaks across the doors. And then they painted it

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<v Speaker 1>white and added some other modifications. But the thing that's

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<v Speaker 1>interesting to me is that the car isn't just a hearse.

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<v Speaker 1>The model is actually called a combination car because hearses

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<v Speaker 1>from the 1950s weren't just hearses. They also worked as ambulances. Hmm.

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<v Speaker 1>According to Popular Mechanics, quote, hearses from funeral homes pulled

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<v Speaker 1>double duty and the funeral home employees didn't have much

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<v Speaker 1>in the way of instruction beyond drive fast because the

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<v Speaker 1>EMT as a concept was still a few years off.

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<v Speaker 2>So why didn't people just call 911? And we're talking

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<v Speaker 2>about the 1950s, right?

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<v Speaker 1>I guess 911 wasn't a national thing yet. And ambulances

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<v Speaker 1>and EMT services hadn't really been formalized either. That really

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<v Speaker 1>starts in the mid to late 60s. So the funeral

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<v Speaker 1>homes already have these cars that can carry people laying down.

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<v Speaker 1>Funeral directors are just up at all hours, and for them,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the way to make extra money. Plus, from a

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<v Speaker 1>more cynical perspective, if a patient doesn't make it, you've

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<v Speaker 1>got an easy referral. According to the Journal, this paper

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<v Speaker 1>from Ontario, Canada, quote, These ambulances not only took the

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<v Speaker 1>injured to the hospital, they transported patients to and from

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<v Speaker 1>nursing homes, and even gave newborn babies and their mothers

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<v Speaker 1>a lift home. The equipment was often sparse, a stretcher,

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<v Speaker 1>a blanket, a first aid kit. And of course, in

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<v Speaker 1>earlier iterations, it points out, they'd have a bottle of

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<v Speaker 1>whiskey to numb the pain.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I can't imagine, and I don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>think about this sort of thing, but imagine your granddad

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<v Speaker 2>falling down some stairs or something like that. The idea

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<v Speaker 2>of calling a funeral home to help with this problem,

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<v Speaker 2>it just feels so morbid.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, which God is wondering, when did emergency hotlines

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<v Speaker 1>and 911 change all of that? So that's what we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about this episode. Let's dive in. We'll see you

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<v Speaker 1>next time.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey there, podcast listeners. Welcome back to Part-Time Genius. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>Will Pearson. And as always, I'm joined with my good friend, Mango.

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<v Speaker 2>And sitting somewhere behind that big booth is our pal, Dylan.

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<v Speaker 2>He's got a bottle of Emergency 911 sauce and seems

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<v Speaker 2>to be pouring it on everything he's eating back there.

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<v Speaker 2>What's he got back there? If I were doing that,

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<v Speaker 2>I would be sweating. I don't see one drop of

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<v Speaker 2>sweat on the guy. But he's got, I mean, it

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<v Speaker 2>looks like he's got a burrito, a hot dog. I

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<v Speaker 2>think that's a Cobb salad.

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<v Speaker 1>Cobb salad? Here's the weirdest part, Mango.

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<v Speaker 2>I spot a banana, but what are you doing, Dylan?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so glad he also has a big jug of

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<v Speaker 1>milk back there to calm it all down, or else

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<v Speaker 1>we'd have to call 911. But speaking of 911, which

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<v Speaker 1>translates as emergency to us these days, why don't you

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<v Speaker 1>give us a rundown on how that number came to be?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, as you said at the top of the show here,

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<v Speaker 2>911 is a relatively modern thing nationally. I think that

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<v Speaker 2>was the thing that surprised me most as we started

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<v Speaker 2>looking into it. But It actually wasn't until 1967 that

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<v Speaker 2>the President's Commission on Law Enforcement and Administration of Justice

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<v Speaker 2>recommended that, quote, a single number should be established. And

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<v Speaker 2>this would be nationwide and would be for reporting any

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<v Speaker 2>emergency situations.

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<v Speaker 1>So what happened before that? I mean, other than calling

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<v Speaker 1>up like, you know, your local funeral director, which everyone

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<v Speaker 1>obviously has on speed dial.

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<v Speaker 2>That's exactly right. Well, there used to be different numbers

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<v Speaker 2>for different kinds of emergencies, and we will get to that.

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<v Speaker 2>But back in 1967, the FCC met with the American

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<v Speaker 2>Telephone and Telegraph Company. We know them today as AT &amp; T. Actually,

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<v Speaker 2>that was another thing I learned. I didn't know that

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<v Speaker 2>that's what that had stood for. But to find a

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<v Speaker 2>means of establishing a universal emergency number that could be

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<v Speaker 2>implemented super quickly. So in 1968, AT &amp; T announced

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<v Speaker 2>that it would establish the digits 911 as the emergency

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<v Speaker 2>code throughout the United States. But weirdly, it wasn't until

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<v Speaker 2>the Public Safety Act of 1999, Mango, 1999, we were

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<v Speaker 2>in college at the time, that 911 was officially established

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<v Speaker 2>as the nation's emergency calling number.

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<v Speaker 1>That is insane that it took that long.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was actually Bill Clinton who signed the law

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<v Speaker 2>ensuring that the FCC controlled 9-1-1 and that it had

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<v Speaker 2>a budget to oversee the number, which is when it

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<v Speaker 2>became officially the law of the land.

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<v Speaker 1>But people were calling 9-1-1 for decades before that, right?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so the first 9-1-1 call actually took place in

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<v Speaker 2>my home state in Haleyville, Alabama. This was in 1968.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's still celebrated today, and do I mean celebrated.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we have all sorts of weird things. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>we've got the big statue to the boll weevil in Enterprise, Alabama.

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<v Speaker 2>We love celebrating our super weird things there. But there's

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<v Speaker 2>a sign there that says, Haleyville, where 9-1-1 began, which

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<v Speaker 2>is such a weird thing. But there are also banners

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<v Speaker 2>hanging from streetlights that have the town seal on it

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<v Speaker 2>that shows this red phone receiver and the words, Home

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<v Speaker 2>of 911. Again, it just feels like a really weird

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<v Speaker 2>message to send. But also, there's literally a 911 festival

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<v Speaker 2>in Haleyville every June. So I don't know if you've

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<v Speaker 2>booked your tickets yet.

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't. I mean, I'm not sure that the Home

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<v Speaker 1>of 911 is really that big a draw for me.

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<v Speaker 1>I know it feels weird to want to go to

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<v Speaker 1>somewhere where they have so many emergencies. But I am

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<v Speaker 1>curious about this festival. How do you celebrate a phone number?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, if you think about it, there are some things

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<v Speaker 2>to celebrate. Like really, it's a festival to celebrate first responders.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's pretty great. They obviously work super hard, save

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of lives. There's a parade, some first responder awards. Also,

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<v Speaker 2>given where it is, there's a tractor show. So that's

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<v Speaker 2>the fun part too. And then obviously, there's got to

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<v Speaker 2>be a cornhole tournament to sort of round things out.

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<v Speaker 1>That sounds perfect.

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<v Speaker 2>But the history is pretty interesting. So back in the 1960s,

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<v Speaker 2>there were all these regional telephone companies. So when AT &amp;

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<v Speaker 2>T and the FCC decided the three numbers to use

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<v Speaker 2>would be 911, the president of the Alabama telephone company,

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<v Speaker 2>his name was Bob Gallagher, read about the decision and

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<v Speaker 2>was upset that independent carriers were left out of the conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>So he basically rushed to establish a 911 system as

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<v Speaker 2>fast as possible. Basically, he wanted to beat AT &amp;

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<v Speaker 2>T to the punch, and it took less than a

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<v Speaker 2>week to set up. And on February 16th, 1968, the

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<v Speaker 2>red emergency phone in Haleyville rang for the first time.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that there's actually like a red phone there.

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<v Speaker 1>It's amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>It's literally on the town seal and all those banners.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's also, it is weird to me, like before

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<v Speaker 2>looking into all of this, I actually did not know

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<v Speaker 2>that this all started in my home state.

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<v Speaker 1>That's wonderful. Well, what number would you call if you

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<v Speaker 1>had an emergency like one year before that in 1966?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, up until that point, people would just dial zero

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<v Speaker 2>and then they would tell the operator. Sometimes we forget

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<v Speaker 2>about that, right? The existence of operators. And you can

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<v Speaker 2>imagine this was a pretty stressful situation. So the telephone

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<v Speaker 2>company operators weren't necessarily trained on these emergency services, but

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<v Speaker 2>phone lines had been the go-to for reporting emergencies since

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<v Speaker 2>the early 1900s. So way back, the founders of the

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<v Speaker 2>communications giant Ericsson actually developed a portable phone handset and

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<v Speaker 2>this crank that could be hooked to these like bare

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<v Speaker 2>phone wires, and you'd actually place these two metal hooks

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<v Speaker 2>inside it over these telephone wires to form the connection.

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<v Speaker 2>and then crank the hand box to create a signal

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<v Speaker 2>that would hopefully be answered by someone on the line.

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<v Speaker 2>This seems like a lot to figure out in these

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<v Speaker 2>emergency situations.

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<v Speaker 1>It's insane. So like if there was like a hot

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<v Speaker 1>air balloon crash or a guy with a handlebar mustache

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<v Speaker 1>riding too fast on his unicycle, this is the contraption

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<v Speaker 1>you'd have to use. That's exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Those were two of the most common injuries in emergencies.

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<v Speaker 2>But it turns out people use the crank and hook

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<v Speaker 2>thing for some pretty important things. Like way back in 1907,

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<v Speaker 2>Somebody used one to report a train robbery, and it

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<v Speaker 2>actually contributed to the arrest of the outlaws.

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<v Speaker 1>What? That's incredible.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually, it's just so fun to read about some of

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<v Speaker 2>these old ones. Here's one more old-time nugget. Part of

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<v Speaker 2>the reason we actually have some early emergency regulations is

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<v Speaker 2>because of the Titanic. So basically, when people on the

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<v Speaker 2>ship realized they were in trouble, the Titanic radio operator

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<v Speaker 2>signaled for help. And it turns out there was one

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<v Speaker 2>ship close by that was capable of offering aid. but

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<v Speaker 2>the operator was off duty and the signal was never

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<v Speaker 2>actually received, which is obviously a tragic situation. So in response,

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<v Speaker 2>Congress passed the Radio Act of 1912 requiring all seagoing

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<v Speaker 2>vessels to have a licensed radio operator on duty at

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<v Speaker 2>all times. And this was to continuously monitor these distress frequencies.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's what kickstarted the relationship between emergency communications and governance.

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<v Speaker 1>It's interesting that That's one of the legacies of the Titanic.

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<v Speaker 1>I never would have guessed that. But I guess it

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<v Speaker 1>kind of makes sense that it takes a big tragedy

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<v Speaker 1>to spur some big change like that. Like in the UK,

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<v Speaker 1>instead of 911, they have 999. And it's actually the

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<v Speaker 1>world's oldest emergency phone service. It dates back to 1935.

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<v Speaker 1>But again, it comes about because of a tragedy. There

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<v Speaker 1>was a deadly fire in London. on Wimpole Street, and

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<v Speaker 1>five women ended up dying. The neighbors did try to help.

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<v Speaker 1>They all dialed zero for the switchboard, but it was

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<v Speaker 1>jammed with so many calls that they couldn't alert anyone

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<v Speaker 1>of the fire.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I'm curious, though, how did they settle on

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<v Speaker 2>those numbers, 999?

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<v Speaker 1>The general post office, which ran the telephone network, proposed

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<v Speaker 1>a three-digit number that could trigger a special signal and

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<v Speaker 1>a flashing light at the exchange. And then the operators

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<v Speaker 1>could divert their attention and, you know, get these priority calls.

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<v Speaker 1>But they just had to pick three numbers. People thought

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<v Speaker 1>an N number was a good choice. So, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you could find it easily if you're reaching for your

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<v Speaker 1>phone in the dark or in thick smoke. So, like,

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<v Speaker 1>111 was rejected because it could be triggered by faulty

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<v Speaker 1>equipment or rubbing telephone lines together, I guess. 222 was

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<v Speaker 1>already taken, apparently. It connected to the Abbey. And 000

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<v Speaker 1>didn't make any sense because the first zero would already

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<v Speaker 1>take you straight to the operator. So they went with 999.

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<v Speaker 1>And on June 30th, 1937, the Capitol's new emergency telephone

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<v Speaker 1>line was unveiled. And a week later, on July 7th, 1937,

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<v Speaker 1>the press reported the first arrest after a 999 call.

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<v Speaker 1>There was a guy, John Stanley Beard. He was woken

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<v Speaker 1>up in the early hours of the morning by a

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<v Speaker 1>noise underneath his bedroom window. And when he looked outside,

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<v Speaker 1>he saw a single foot, a man's foot out there.

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<v Speaker 1>And so his wife dialed 999. In less than five minutes,

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<v Speaker 1>this burglar was arrested. Five minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>That's actually pretty amazing given everything. But so 999 pretty

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<v Speaker 2>much worked immediately.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it didn't work perfectly. Of the about 1,300 calls

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<v Speaker 1>made that first week, 91 were prank calls. Oh, gosh.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it feels so stupid, but also so human

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<v Speaker 2>that as soon as the country gets this emergency number,

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<v Speaker 2>people would, of course, start making crank calls.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, especially after this very sober notice in the evening

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<v Speaker 1>news advised the public how to use 999. It reads, quote,

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<v Speaker 1>Only dial 999 if the matter is urgent. If, for instance,

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<v Speaker 1>the man in the flat next to yours is murdering

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<v Speaker 1>his wife or you have seen a heavily masked cat

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<v Speaker 1>burglar peering around the stack pipe of the local bank building.

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<v Speaker 1>If you have merely lost a little towser or a

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<v Speaker 1>lorry has come to rest in your front garden... just

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<v Speaker 1>call up the local police, end quote. I love the

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<v Speaker 1>idea that someone putting their truck a little too close

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<v Speaker 1>to your azaleas is something you should call 911 about.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm pretty sure I told you this before, but my grandmother,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, Mamaw, if we'd end up in a traffic

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<v Speaker 2>jam every once in a while, she would want to

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<v Speaker 2>pick up the phone and call 911, and we'd have

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<v Speaker 2>to stop her from doing that just to find out

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<v Speaker 2>why there was a traffic jam. But I mean, I

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<v Speaker 2>guess they were just worried that the emergency number would

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<v Speaker 2>turn into this sort of like a complaint line for

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<v Speaker 2>cranky citizens.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, I guess that's fair. The other thing

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<v Speaker 1>about the line of that time is that the early

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<v Speaker 1>technology wasn't perfect. So when a call came in, operators

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<v Speaker 1>were alerted by this like big flashing red light and

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<v Speaker 1>a klaxon, which is one of those like awooga sirens.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you can imagine multiple calls coming in at once,

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<v Speaker 1>it's kind of nuts. A 1951 article in the Post

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<v Speaker 1>Office Telegram Communications Journal, described 999's early days, quote, when

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<v Speaker 1>the raucous buzzer sounded in the quiet discipline switch rooms,

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<v Speaker 1>a few of the girls found the situation too much

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<v Speaker 1>for them and had to be carried out.

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<v Speaker 2>That sounds pretty awful, actually. But actually, there are a

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<v Speaker 2>whole bunch of awoogas and flashing lights going on over there.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if our listeners can hear that, which

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<v Speaker 2>I think Dylan is using to tell us it is

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<v Speaker 2>time to throw to commercials. So stay right there. We'll

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<v Speaker 2>be back with more part-time genius after the break. Music

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back to Part-Time Genius, where we're talking 911 and

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<v Speaker 2>the various emergency lines around the world. All right, Mingo,

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<v Speaker 2>let's jump over to Europe and look at their emergency

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<v Speaker 2>number 112. How did that come into existence?

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<v Speaker 1>So the idea for 112 started in the early 1990s.

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<v Speaker 1>In July 1991, the EU decided that all member states

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<v Speaker 1>would introduce a common emergency number. But it wasn't until

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<v Speaker 1>2002 that 112 became mandatory for all EU member states.

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<v Speaker 1>And the number does work in some other places, like

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<v Speaker 1>Australia uses a triple zero for their emergency number, although

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<v Speaker 1>you can also use 112 if you're calling from a

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<v Speaker 1>mobile phone.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually, that was one of the things I thought was

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<v Speaker 2>most interesting in the research of all of this. Like

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<v Speaker 2>if you're abroad and you dial your home country's emergency number,

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<v Speaker 2>often it'll just forward to whatever country you're in. Like

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<v Speaker 2>if you dial 112 here in the States, it forwards

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<v Speaker 2>to 911. Yeah, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually remember when I was on study abroad, this kid

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<v Speaker 1>on my trip was feeling sick from something he'd eaten.

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<v Speaker 1>And he was like, super, super dramatic. And he was like,

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<v Speaker 1>crawling on the floor to the phone and trying to

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<v Speaker 1>dial 911. But, you know, it's a landline and it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't go anywhere. So, you know, it did make me think, like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what you're supposed to do in emergency

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<v Speaker 1>situations in other countries. But I guess cell phones have

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<v Speaker 1>kind of solved for that, which is a great thing.

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<v Speaker 2>It is definitely a good thing. And today we have

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<v Speaker 2>what's called enhanced 911, which is what 93% of counties

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<v Speaker 2>with 911 coverage have. So basically, 911 systems have been

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<v Speaker 2>upgraded to accommodate for wireless calls, and they share the

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<v Speaker 2>caller's location by IDing the closest cell tower to the caller.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure you've heard about this as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I feel like you hear a lot about that

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<v Speaker 1>on like NCIS type shows or like in serial where

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<v Speaker 1>they're trying to triangulate a caller's location from cell phone towers.

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<v Speaker 1>But that feels like technology that's been around for a while.

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<v Speaker 2>That's true, but 911 is always evolving. Like right now,

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<v Speaker 2>dispatch operators are transitioning to what's called Next Generation 911

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<v Speaker 2>or NG 911, which will allow us to send things

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<v Speaker 2>like text and pictures to our 911 providers.

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<v Speaker 1>Which is great, but I imagine with all the prank

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<v Speaker 1>pictures that might come through, it's probably another opportunity for

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<v Speaker 1>emergency dispatchers to remind 911 users to use it appropriately.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, none of our listeners would ever do that, but...

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<v Speaker 2>Here's another interesting thing that I learned in my research.

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<v Speaker 2>And again, it's an evolution because of a tragedy. But

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<v Speaker 2>you know, if you're in an office, you often have

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<v Speaker 2>to dial nine to reach an outside line, right?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And sometimes in hotels too, right?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly. And that's not the case if you're dialing 911.

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<v Speaker 2>So today, if you just dial 911, it'll connect you.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's because of this case in 2013. There was

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<v Speaker 2>a woman named Carrie Hunt. She was attacked and killed

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<v Speaker 2>by her estranged husband in Marshall, Texas. And this happened

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<v Speaker 2>in a hotel room. And so Carrie's nine-year-old daughter was

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<v Speaker 2>in the room and trying to call 911 on the

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<v Speaker 2>hotel phone. I mean, just such a tragic situation, but

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<v Speaker 2>she dialed 911 four times during the attack, but tragically,

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<v Speaker 2>none of those calls went through. That is so awful.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So ever since then, Carrie's father, a man named Hank Hunt,

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<v Speaker 2>has worked tirelessly with the FCC and Congress to change

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<v Speaker 2>the law so that nine is no longer needed for

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<v Speaker 2>911 calls from these multi-line systems like hotel phones, business phones,

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<v Speaker 2>things like that. And all these efforts paid off in

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<v Speaker 2>2018 when Kerry's law actually became this officially adopted law

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<v Speaker 2>across the states.

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<v Speaker 1>That's really sad, but it also seems so obvious, right?

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<v Speaker 1>I guess we just don't think of these things until

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<v Speaker 1>we have to.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and because arguably the multi-line phone system is a

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<v Speaker 2>great technological advancement, but it didn't integrate naturally with the

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<v Speaker 2>911 system. And It's kind of the same things with

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<v Speaker 2>smartphones and watches, but really more in the opposite direction.

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<v Speaker 2>They've almost made calling 911 too easy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think it's funny that every time I shut

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<v Speaker 1>my phone off, it offers me the option to call

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<v Speaker 1>emergency services, which is obviously a good thing, but sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>it does feel like my phone wants me to call 911.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, like you said, built-in 911 features in

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<v Speaker 2>smartphones are a net positive, but they've definitely led to

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<v Speaker 2>an increase in the accidental 911 calls. For instance, in India,

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<v Speaker 2>for some reason... If you or your kid or your

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<v Speaker 2>pocket presses the side button three times, your phone will

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<v Speaker 2>dial 112.

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<v Speaker 1>That's crazy. I go to India like every other year

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<v Speaker 1>and I had no idea about this.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm glad that you haven't accidentally called 9 or 112,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess, in that case. You know, and some smart

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<v Speaker 2>watches now include fall detection. So if your watch thinks

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<v Speaker 2>you've fallen and can't get up, it will call 911,

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<v Speaker 2>which is a great safety feature.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's so smart. It's like such a boon for

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<v Speaker 1>people like us who might be worried about, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>your parents or your in-laws.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but you can also imagine how it might cause

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<v Speaker 2>some problems too. Like at one Idaho ski resort this

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<v Speaker 2>past winter, this place called Schweitzer Mountain, the sheriff's office

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<v Speaker 2>saw this dramatic increase in unwanted 911 calls and people

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<v Speaker 2>that were skiing and snowboarding and they were just wiping out,

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<v Speaker 2>which was triggering all this fall detection on smartwatches and

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<v Speaker 2>it just kept calling 911.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. That's incredible. They just have to stay on the

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<v Speaker 1>bunny hill if you're wearing a smartwatch.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right. But sometimes it doesn't even take a fall

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<v Speaker 2>to trigger this automatic emergency call. So there's this Reddit

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<v Speaker 2>post from a person in Europe whose Samsung Galaxy dialed

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<v Speaker 2>112 when they took it off. And this is what

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<v Speaker 2>it said, quote, I took my watch off and threw

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<v Speaker 2>it on my bed because I went to take a shower. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>my watch interpreted that as falling. 112 called me like

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<v Speaker 2>four times. And when I heard the fourth call, I

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<v Speaker 2>ran out to answer the phone.

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<v Speaker 1>That's crazy. And I feel like running out all soapy

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<v Speaker 1>with shampoo in your eyes might actually cause a spill

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<v Speaker 1>that makes you need to call 911. But to your point, obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>unintentional calls aren't a great thing, especially since there's a

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<v Speaker 1>nationwide shortage of 911 dispatch. right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, that's interesting. Why do you think there's a shortage?

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<v Speaker 1>So a lot of reasons, you know, burnout from the pandemic,

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<v Speaker 1>long shifts, overnight shifts, low pay, high stress, all of

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<v Speaker 1>that is contributing. But the volume of calls is also insane.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, this number is all over the place online,

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<v Speaker 1>but supposedly... America's 911 system receives an average of 240

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<v Speaker 1>million calls annually, or an average of over 1,200 calls

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<v Speaker 1>per minute. Oh, wow.

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<v Speaker 2>That is insane.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And I hadn't even processed how hard the job is. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I actually read this memoir. It's called Answering 911 by

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<v Speaker 1>Caroline Burau, I think her name's pronounced. But she's talking

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<v Speaker 1>about how people always want to hear the types of

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<v Speaker 1>calls she answers at parties. And it just makes her

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<v Speaker 1>pause every time because, like, Actually, the most interesting calls,

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<v Speaker 1>she says, are the saddest ones. So this is what

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<v Speaker 1>she writes. They are the stories where mothers and fathers

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<v Speaker 1>fail their children. They are the stories where friends and

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<v Speaker 1>lovers do awful things to each other because of drugs

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<v Speaker 1>or alcohol or worse for no real reason at all.

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<v Speaker 1>Or they are the fascinating ways that some people lose

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<v Speaker 1>their grip on reality. Interesting? Yeah, but not amusing. And

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<v Speaker 1>she talks about trying to hold it together on a

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<v Speaker 1>call where this girl has called because her mom has

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<v Speaker 1>tried to commit suicide. and how she has to ask

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<v Speaker 1>where the gun is and what type of gun she

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<v Speaker 1>used and if the mom is still alive. Those calls

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<v Speaker 1>just have to be devastating. As an operator, you have

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<v Speaker 1>to hold it together until after the shift when she

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<v Speaker 1>says she would release and cry.

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<v Speaker 2>It's one of those things I can't imagine. It's heartbreaking.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. The lower staffing levels across the country also increase

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<v Speaker 1>the burden on the remaining dispatchers, which makes them more

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<v Speaker 1>susceptible to the burnout. It's really this vicious cycle. And

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<v Speaker 1>also since 2020, in the wake of George Floyd, there's

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<v Speaker 1>been a perception of 911 as an enabler of the police.

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<v Speaker 1>So these days, there's a growing interest in alternative dispatch

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<v Speaker 1>or alternative response programs that send public health and crisis

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<v Speaker 1>intervention workers instead of cops to intervene with certain calls.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's interesting when you look at the numbers, because

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<v Speaker 1>of the approximately 240 million calls made to 911 every year,

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<v Speaker 1>only a small fraction are for serious or violent crimes.

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<v Speaker 1>The majority are calls like disorderly conduct and noise complaints,

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<v Speaker 1>suspicious people or cars and mental health issues, and also

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<v Speaker 1>things like substance use and homelessness. And so you really

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<v Speaker 1>don't always need police as first responders.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, there is this tendency to think of

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<v Speaker 2>police as kind of like this all-purpose, you know, force there,

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<v Speaker 2>but they actually are only trained in very specific ways.

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<v Speaker 2>And like, you wouldn't call the cops to put out

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<v Speaker 2>a fire, so it feels weird that we would call

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<v Speaker 2>them to deal with a drug overdose or something else

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<v Speaker 2>that they're really not equipped for, not trained for.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and alternative dispatch programs deploy public health professionals and

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<v Speaker 1>crisis workers to situations involving mental health, substance abuse, and homelessness.

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<v Speaker 1>So In other words, people who are specifically trained to

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<v Speaker 1>resolve those emergencies. The Harvard Kennedy School Government Performance Lab,

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<v Speaker 1>the GPL, is working with 15 jurisdictions across the country

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<v Speaker 1>to develop and pilot some of these alternative response systems

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<v Speaker 1>right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all this, it does sort of highlight how knee-jerk

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<v Speaker 2>calling 911 can be, like whatever the emergency might be. Actually,

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<v Speaker 2>there's this funny instance from September of 2023 where when

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<v Speaker 2>the U.S. Marines actually called 911 to report having lost,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what they lost? They lost an F-35 fighter jet.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not like you lost a cat or something.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's crazy. And it's just wild to read about

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<v Speaker 2>this story. But eventually they found the pilot, but somehow

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<v Speaker 2>not the jet. So if you see an F-35 just

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<v Speaker 2>roaming around your neighborhood, maybe slip a note to the Pentagon.

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<v Speaker 2>Just let them know.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, should we do a quick roundup of funny 911

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<v Speaker 1>calls from dispatchers on Reddit? Because that would be a

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<v Speaker 1>better way to do our fact off.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we all know this is what this episode

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<v Speaker 2>has been building to, so let's do it. All right,

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<v Speaker 2>why don't I start with a classic straight from Reddit? Quote,

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<v Speaker 2>Lady called in because she thought Willie Nelson was having

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<v Speaker 2>a cardiac arrest in her trailer. and she needed an ambulance.

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<v Speaker 2>I started giving her CPR instructions and come to find

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<v Speaker 2>out when paramedics got there, she was doing compressions on

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<v Speaker 2>the couch cushions. Apparently, she was just really high.

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<v Speaker 1>Tale as old as time. So I like this one. Quote,

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<v Speaker 1>a concerned citizen called in an animal stuck in a tree,

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<v Speaker 1>and that animal was a bird.

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<v Speaker 2>Just stuck. All right, another fun animal call. Quote, middle

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<v Speaker 2>of the night shift. Get a report of a guy

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<v Speaker 2>trying to ride on a moose. Officer attends. There is

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<v Speaker 2>indeed a male trying to ride said moose. Male is

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<v Speaker 2>wearing high visibility vest and helmet, which his girlfriend made

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<v Speaker 2>him put on for safety reasons.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course. I like that there's actually a moose there

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<v Speaker 1>in that scenario. So this is another animal one. Quote,

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<v Speaker 1>I talked to a pizza delivery guy who couldn't reach

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<v Speaker 1>his destination because a defiant chicken was standing in the

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<v Speaker 1>middle of the road. I stayed with him on the

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<v Speaker 1>phone as he pleaded with it to finally move along.

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<v Speaker 1>Truly a chicken crossing the road moment. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I see why they would call 911. That does sound,

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<v Speaker 2>sound terrifying.

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<v Speaker 1>So. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>All right. So I'm going to end on this one

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<v Speaker 2>because I really love it. It is so brazen. Here

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<v Speaker 2>we go. Quote, got a call from one of the

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<v Speaker 2>managers at a bowling alley complaining that their ice machine

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<v Speaker 2>was broken and it's a really busy night. And if

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<v Speaker 2>someone doesn't come to fix it, there will be no

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<v Speaker 2>cold drinks. I mean, To be fair, no cold drinks

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<v Speaker 2>at a bowling alley is an emergency. So, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>this one seems maybe legit thinking more about it. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>what are you going to end on, Mango?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if you think about there will be blood,

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<v Speaker 1>that bowling alley scene, you know, turns dangerous when there's

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<v Speaker 1>nothing to drink.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>It's legit now. I love the 911 calls from kids

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<v Speaker 1>who are calling to complain that their sibling's being mean

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<v Speaker 1>to them or won't share their Legos. But I think

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<v Speaker 1>my favorite one is about a kid and a mom.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is how it goes. Quote, a frazzled mother

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<v Speaker 1>called because her six-year-old had gotten onto the roof and

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<v Speaker 1>she couldn't get him down. She kept screaming about how

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<v Speaker 1>we need to hurry, not because she was worried he

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<v Speaker 1>would get hurt, but because he had done this before

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<v Speaker 1>and the last time he peed in the air vents.

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<v Speaker 1>All right.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, nothing like a little pee in the air vent

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<v Speaker 2>to seal a fact off. It's a cheap way to

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<v Speaker 2>win it, Mango, but I'm going to have to give

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<v Speaker 2>you this week's trophy. So that's it for this week's

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