1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:06,520 Speaker 1: To teas in a pod which Teddy Mellencamp and camera judge. 2 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:17,240 Speaker 2: Hi, guys, welcome to another episode of The twat Seat. 3 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 2: Today we have on Macy Nealy. She burst into the 4 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 2: center of pop culture when Hulu's The Secret Lives of 5 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 2: Some Mormon Wives took the world wide storm. She has 6 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 2: a memoir out now. It's called Told You So. It's 7 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 2: in bookstores now, so you can get it because what 8 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 2: we're seeing on Hulu is barely scratching the service. By 9 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 2: the way, Secret Lives of Mormon Wives is streaming. 10 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 3: On Hulu and season three is about to come out, right, 11 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 3: don't they come out pretty soon? So I remember when 12 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 3: we interviewed them earlier in the year and it was 13 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 3: season two, they were already filming season three. Like now, 14 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 3: they turn it around really quick. It's a quick turns 15 00:00:57,280 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 3: for sure. Now this port she has gone through so 16 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 3: much in her. 17 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 2: Young life, I know, and we're about to. 18 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:05,320 Speaker 3: Hear all about it, enough to write a book. 19 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 2: Enough to write a book. But Secret Lives of Mormon 20 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 2: Wives starts airing November thirteenth, Yeah. 21 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 3: Right around the corner. 22 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 2: I can't wait. 23 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:16,119 Speaker 3: Are we going to recap it again? 24 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, we've got to so good. 25 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:23,319 Speaker 1: Hello, Hi, how are you guys. 26 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 2: Hi? 27 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 3: See, it's been a while since we talked to you. 28 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: It's been a minute, but it feels like yesterday at 29 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: the same time. 30 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:33,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, the congratulations on your new book, thank you, I'm 31 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 3: so excited. 32 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 2: And congratulations on your baby. 33 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 1: Thank you. I know, I had my husband take her 34 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:41,320 Speaker 1: out today because I'm like, she's a little too crazy. 35 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:44,279 Speaker 2: We gottata when. 36 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 3: We saw you last year. 37 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:45,680 Speaker 2: Pregnant. 38 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 1: Yes, she's two months, so she's little. She's little, but 39 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 1: like I thought, she's such a big girl. 40 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 3: Now, remind me, didn't you tell me when I met 41 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 3: you last that your mom lives in Kodo? 42 00:01:57,400 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 2: Yes, gott to hook us. 43 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 1: I know, I like I lived there my whole my 44 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 1: whole life, Like I grew up there, Like I think 45 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 1: we lived there when I was seven and then my 46 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 1: parents are still there. 47 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 2: Oh my right. 48 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like so crazy. So I was actually just 49 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 1: there for. 50 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 3: Like would she be good for housewives? 51 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 1: It's hard to say, because I feel like my mom, 52 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 1: I think it looks in the beginning she'd probably be 53 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:24,519 Speaker 1: a little stiff on camera, just because I don't know. 54 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 1: I think the perception would maybe scare her, like not 55 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 1: looking at like looking a certain way on TV. But 56 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 1: I think like after a while she'd be good. She'd 57 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:33,399 Speaker 1: probably feel like me where she's kind of like more 58 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:36,919 Speaker 1: chill like probably not like directly in drama, but like 59 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 1: I thought she'd be pretty good though. 60 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 2: I don't know she'd be a good narrator. 61 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, she'd like the narrator for sure. My mom like 62 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 1: loves telling stories that Letty can tell you a story 63 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:47,360 Speaker 1: about any topics. I feel like she would be a 64 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:47,920 Speaker 1: good narrator. 65 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 3: Put her together with my husband, they would just talk 66 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 3: for hours. 67 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:52,080 Speaker 1: No, it's true. 68 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 3: They're casting now, so she's interested in let me know. 69 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I'll tell her because at first I 70 00:02:57,600 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 1: brought her, brought it up to her after we did 71 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 1: the podcast, He's like, yeah, i'd be interested, But I'm like, 72 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:04,119 Speaker 1: we'll see, I'll see. I should have her at least 73 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: try out and think it'd be funny. 74 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 3: Well, I'll send you my phone number and she can 75 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 3: give me a call. 76 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, yeah, send it to me. I'll tell her 77 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 1: to at least adition for it, so it could be fun. 78 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 3: Plus, i'd love to meet her. I wonder if we 79 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 3: have any mutual friends. I have so many friends that 80 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 3: live in Codo. 81 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:18,079 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, probably used to, like in code, like, I 82 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 1: don't know if you go to the country club at all, 83 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 1: but I used to. 84 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 2: I used to live there. 85 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's like perfect. 86 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 3: What's your mom's name, Cindy Sindy Sunday. Yes, okay, before 87 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 3: we get into I know. 88 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 2: And of course we're going to talk about your book, 89 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 2: because I mean it's heartbreaking but also incredible you gone through. 90 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 2: Let's talk a little bit about Dancing with the Stars. 91 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 2: Do sing Whitney and Jin make you want to go 92 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 2: on next season? 93 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 1: You guys, I would embarrass myself, so I feel like, no, 94 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 1: like I feel like watching them even more so made 95 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 1: me not really want to do it, just because I'm like, 96 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 1: they're so good that I think I'd go on and 97 00:03:57,360 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 1: I'd feel like embarrassing. 98 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 3: So that's how I feel like I wouldn't. 99 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 1: I feel like if I got the opportunity, I wouldn't 100 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 1: be like absolutely not, like I would definitely consider and 101 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 1: try it, but I would be like so anxious and 102 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 1: like so scared because I'm not a dancer, Like I'm 103 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 1: not good at that at all. 104 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 3: Now, you were there at Dance with the Stars for 105 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 3: opening night, I went there to support a friend last season. 106 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 3: Were you shocked when you saw how small? 107 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 2: Yes? 108 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 1: I was like, wait, Like I thought, like when you 109 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:25,720 Speaker 1: see it on TV, it looks so much bigger, and 110 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 1: like you get there and you're like, wait, it's like small, 111 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 1: and like the songs were shorter than I thought, so 112 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 1: I was like, at least there's that, like they don't 113 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 1: have to like a full three minute thing. 114 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 3: It's like one minute, right, one minute. Yeah, And you 115 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:38,599 Speaker 3: probably sat right in the front by those things that 116 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 3: explode confetti out they let their ear drums out, yes, And. 117 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:45,720 Speaker 1: He kept telling the guy I would tell us, He's like, hey, 118 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 1: this is going to go off. Yeah, but I always 119 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:52,279 Speaker 1: forget every time go off, And I was like yeah. 120 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 3: And then they're just the stuff that goes on in 121 00:04:54,680 --> 00:05:00,599 Speaker 3: between people dancing, Like it's like sets come and people 122 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:03,040 Speaker 3: are flying from the ceiling and it's it's. 123 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 1: Just fun to watch. Like when I went in person, 124 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:08,039 Speaker 1: I was like, wait, I love this, Like this is 125 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 1: so fun. So I don't know. I I thought it 126 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 1: was a great time. I feel like it made me 127 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:15,559 Speaker 1: more nervous for them, Like I felt so anxious before 128 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 1: they started. I was like, oh my gosh, like, I 129 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 1: feel like I was living it with them, but I 130 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 1: could you imagine being I voted for both of them. 131 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 1: You guys know, I love the Riders, so I think 132 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 1: I can't like take a side. I mean, I love 133 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 1: both of them like me and when you have had 134 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 1: our differences, but we're like, I feel like we're in 135 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 1: a good place and I love Greens. I like, I 136 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: don't think I could ever choose like one or the 137 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 1: other because they're also both so good. So it's like, okay, 138 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 1: I'm going five to five. We're going split. 139 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 2: And some people are saying it's unfair that Whitney is 140 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:49,719 Speaker 2: doing it because she has such a strong background and dancing. 141 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:51,039 Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on that. 142 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 1: I mean, I wouldn't say it's unfair because I don't 143 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:55,840 Speaker 1: think she was like a professional dancer, but she did. 144 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 1: Like I guess she does have a good advantage because 145 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 1: she did dance for her major. Like, I get that, 146 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:02,720 Speaker 1: and I think it's also a reasony I don't think 147 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 1: I want to go on because I like a lot 148 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 1: of people that go on the show have a dance experience. 149 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 2: Yes, I have here, So. 150 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 1: I feel like they can't like single Witney out because 151 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 1: I know was it Glob's partner? I wrote where her 152 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:16,159 Speaker 1: name is Lah? I heard that she was a professional 153 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:18,480 Speaker 1: ballroom dancer but then got hurt. But I'm like, that's 154 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 1: still That'd be like me going and playing tennis and 155 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:22,719 Speaker 1: people have never played before. I'd kick their butts, you know. 156 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:25,160 Speaker 3: But don't you feel I agree with that, But don't 157 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 3: you feel there's like a level of popularity that goes 158 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:30,559 Speaker 3: into who wins too. 159 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:34,359 Speaker 1: I think it's fifty percent dance or actually it's like 160 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 1: forty percent dance maybe and then sixty percent popular people. Honestly, 161 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 1: it could be more because I know that she was 162 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:42,839 Speaker 1: in the bottom three, right, but she's like really good, 163 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 1: So it's like. 164 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:46,159 Speaker 3: She's good, but she's not very well liked. 165 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the problem. 166 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 3: Yes, that's why I'm like, I'd be kicked off so quick. 167 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 1: Oh my god, you have all your Orange County voters 168 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 1: coming through, all the house by. 169 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 3: Voter, Yeah, especially my cast. 170 00:06:57,640 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. 171 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 3: Would I'd be like if one showed up. 172 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 1: Just how they did, they wouldn't come support. 173 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 2: You never know. I don't think it would be like 174 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 2: a podcast support. I would. Yeah, you guys did. Yeah, 175 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 2: I can't believe that you guys start airing already, like 176 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 2: November thirteenth. 177 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 1: I know, for season three. I feel like it just 178 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 1: it's just like flown by. I don't know, Like I 179 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 1: think I was just with you guys in the studio. 180 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 1: So I'm like, I just and it's like already new 181 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 1: seasons coming out. It's bizarre. 182 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 3: Well, you guys are a huge hit, and I've never 183 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 3: seen a reality show like this just take off. Now 184 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 3: you have some of the girls and dance and the stars, 185 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 3: you have Taylor being the new bachelorette. 186 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 2: How do you think to. 187 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 1: Coze, Oh, Like, he's definitely not happy about it, that's 188 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 1: for sure. I mean, I think he's probably gotten over 189 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 1: it now. But I don't think he knew for sure 190 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 1: when it was announced that she was a bachelorette, Like 191 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 1: I know, like there was rumblings and like the girls knew, 192 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 1: but I don't think he knew for sure until it 193 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 1: came out on call her Daddy. Oh, I was. 194 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 3: Really happy that I can get back together for the 195 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 3: especially for the. 196 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 1: Same No, I don't know. 197 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 3: I don't on here, No, I don't. I don't. Maybe 198 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 3: I don't know everything he's done to her. Maybe that's 199 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 3: what it is. 200 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 1: I mean in regardless of him, Like I've had my differences, 201 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 1: like I obviously like haven't liked him, but in general 202 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 1: too like them two together, regardless of what he's done, 203 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 1: it's just toxic. Even like he did change and he 204 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:27,119 Speaker 1: was the best ever, it's still never gonna work between 205 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 1: the two of them. It's just them together is horrible, 206 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 1: bad news. 207 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:33,320 Speaker 3: Like, yeah, we would see him on the show and 208 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 3: he would cry, and his confessionals and things like that. 209 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 3: So I think I just had a little bit of 210 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:40,840 Speaker 3: a soft spot for him, like oh, changing. 211 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 2: Can do that. 212 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 1: They can. And it's funny because I even feel that 213 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 1: sometimes with him, where like I like will have strongly 214 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 1: like I'll strongly dislike him, but then like in person, 215 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 1: sometimes I'm like, ah, like he is like a likable person, 216 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 1: like he he has a good side to him. He's 217 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 1: not like I would say he's like a bad person, 218 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: Like there's times where I felt that way, But I 219 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 1: don't think he's a bad person to his core. He 220 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 1: just makes bad decisions, good dad, I think. So, I mean, 221 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 1: I don't know. I think in the past they questioned it, 222 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 1: but like I think he tries his best. No, I 223 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 1: don't know, Like I have no idea. I don't I've 224 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 1: never really seen him interact as a dad, like I 225 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 1: think whenever they film like Ever hasn't been around, Like 226 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 1: I haven't seen him with ever, you know, So I 227 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:23,319 Speaker 1: wouldn't know, but I assume he is, like Jordan said, 228 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 1: he's a great dad. 229 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 2: I don't know, I think. So we were left on 230 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 2: a big cliffhanger last season between Jesse and Marciano. Oh yeah, 231 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 2: are we going to get into that a little bit? 232 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 1: You're going to get into that a lot, And this 233 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 1: next season, I feel I feel like we're going to 234 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:41,439 Speaker 1: see a lot like I think people are going to 235 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 1: be surprised with what they see. And then also I 236 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 1: just feel because I actually got to see this season 237 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 1: ahead of time. Usually we never get to see it, 238 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: but we did get to see it this time, and 239 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:54,680 Speaker 1: I will say it's probably my favorite season so far. 240 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 1: And I know we probably say that every year, but 241 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 1: I do feel like this time too. They kept like 242 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 1: the fun little moments in there that are usually cut 243 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 1: out for drama, Like I thought, they kept some of 244 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 1: the bloopers and some of the funny moments that usually 245 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 1: don't make the edit. So I did like that because 246 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 1: it kind of shows a personality and it shows kind 247 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 1: of like how we are. Because I feel like after 248 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 1: last season, we got a lot of comments like there's 249 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 1: like they're mean girls and blah bla blah. I'm like, well, 250 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 1: you guys, miss like the fun moments and the moments 251 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 1: that we're just like laughing and like screwing around and 252 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 1: like that gets cut a lot. So I feel like 253 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 1: they did leave a good amount of those this season. 254 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:27,680 Speaker 1: So I felt like it was like funny, Like I 255 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 1: had moments that I was like dying laughing in it, 256 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 1: and like I feel like normally I don't. 257 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 3: So I don't know how do you deal with you 258 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:37,439 Speaker 3: talking about mean comments and stuff like that, and how 259 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 3: do you deal with that on social media? 260 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:40,680 Speaker 2: Has it been easy for you or hard? 261 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 1: I mean it's easy for me so far. I don't 262 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:44,680 Speaker 1: feel like I get a lot of hate compared to 263 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 1: some many other girls. But I also like I feel 264 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 1: like it's because I am not very controversial, like I'm 265 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:51,199 Speaker 1: just kind of doing my own thing. I feel like 266 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 1: I'm very neutral and it's not because I'm like playing 267 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 1: a role. That's just kind of how I am in life. 268 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 1: Like I just like I'm a neutral person. I can 269 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 1: see both sides of the equation, and I I don't know, 270 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 1: and I'm very like empathetic towards people, and like I 271 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 1: can put myself on anyone's shoes, and I feel like 272 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 1: so for me, I don't get a ton of hate. 273 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 1: But I also say, like we definitely get grouped in 274 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:12,680 Speaker 1: as a whole sometimes like these are all mean girls 275 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:14,959 Speaker 1: or this and that, and like, well, you don't know, 276 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 1: you're seeing like twenty percent of like what we film, 277 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:20,119 Speaker 1: you know, because we film so much. 278 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 3: And they all see how people don't understand that. 279 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:24,200 Speaker 1: No they don't. And I'm like, you're seeing just like 280 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 1: certain moments of our lives, Like you're seeing probably the 281 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 1: lowest moments and sometimes the highest, and you're not seeing 282 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 1: like the in between. So it doesn't really affect me, 283 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 1: though I know it affects other people. But I will 284 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 1: say I don't get as much hate as other girls, 285 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 1: so I can't really You're lucky, you know, speak to it. 286 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 1: I do you take skin though, Like I feel like 287 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 1: I'm used to being judged and things like that, Like 288 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:46,959 Speaker 1: my whole life growing up being Mormon and having other 289 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: Mormons who that I wasn't like Mormon enough you know, 290 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 1: say comments, and so I feel like I'm used to it, 291 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 1: so I don't really care. I'm like, you don't know me, 292 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 1: so you can't really judge me, you know, and you're 293 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:58,200 Speaker 1: not perfect, so you can't judge you know what they do? 294 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 2: No remind me is mean? 295 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:02,679 Speaker 3: Is she on this new season coming up? 296 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 1: She is, but not like the whole time, like some 297 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 1: pieces I can't even remember exactly. 298 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 2: Are you more team Jesse or to me team. 299 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 1: Jesse, But like I wouldn't say like I'm on a team, 300 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 1: but I'm closer with Jesse. And I feel like what 301 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:21,199 Speaker 1: has happened, which you'll see more of this season, like 302 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 1: like I wasn't like I want to take this side, 303 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 1: but just kind of naturally happened based on like what 304 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 1: was happening and stuff, and like also because what we 305 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 1: were hearing wasn't The qualities are characteristics of someone that 306 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 1: I want to be close friends with. I have no 307 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 1: personal issues with me, I have no beef, Like we 308 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 1: have a fine relationship. But like just from observing certain things, 309 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, like still love her as a person 310 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 1: as a friend, but yeah, I'm not going to be 311 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 1: like buddy buddy based on what I've seen, you know, 312 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 1: unless of things drastically change and we decide I don't 313 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 1: know whatever. I never say never because I am someone 314 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:57,840 Speaker 1: who will forgive anything, and again, she hasn't anything to me, 315 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:00,959 Speaker 1: so I have nothing to forgive. But just taking a 316 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 1: mental note, I guess, yeah, it's a complicated situation. I feel 317 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 1: like I don't even know exactly how I feel about 318 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:07,679 Speaker 1: it because I do genuinely like like her and as 319 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 1: a person, and we've had like so many good memories together, 320 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 1: so it's hard to say. 321 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 2: You had an incredible, like moving storyline last season, which 322 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:30,320 Speaker 2: I think is what led to your book. Can you 323 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 2: tell us a little bit more about how you started 324 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:38,359 Speaker 2: writing it? Yeah, the stories behind it, what our viewers 325 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 2: would be tuning into. 326 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:44,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, for sure. So, like I always tell people, 327 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 1: I feel the story's been writing itself for the last 328 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:49,559 Speaker 1: ten years because I had a blog that I kind 329 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 1: of wrote and that's how I started social media and 330 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 1: kind of talking about my life story. And then I 331 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 1: also wrote in a diary for like all my trauma 332 00:13:57,120 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 1: stuff that I went through, Like I wrote it all down, 333 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:00,679 Speaker 1: and then I've written like bits and pieces over the 334 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:03,559 Speaker 1: last ten years, but never like put it in a book, 335 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:05,599 Speaker 1: and then I got like the opportunity I got a 336 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 1: book deal because my manager knew it was like one 337 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 1: of my life goals and stuff, and so she got 338 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 1: me with an agent and I got a book deal 339 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 1: pretty quickly after season one, and so I was like, hey, 340 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 1: this is the time, and so like I kind of 341 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 1: pieced everything together that I had already written. Then she 342 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 1: like added new stories and a lot more details, and 343 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 1: so it was definitely a really hard process. But like luckily, 344 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 1: like I had kind of documented like everything else kind 345 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 1: of going on, so that it wasn't so I'm sure, 346 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 1: oh one hundred percent, because over time too, like you 347 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 1: can forget things like and I had notes that I 348 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 1: wrote for therapy and things like that that I had saved. 349 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 1: So I had like so much information that made it 350 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 1: a lot easier for the writing process, Like I like 351 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 1: still wasn't easy. And then I also added stories and 352 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 1: that were fun and like lighthearted and like silly and 353 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 1: stuff that people wouldn't know about me or that like 354 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 1: they wouldn't see in the show. Like there is so 355 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 1: much more in this book than like the three minutes 356 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 1: that you saw on the show for seasons. 357 00:14:58,240 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, can you give us a little bit more of 358 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 2: a and just like the backstory of what you showed 359 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 2: on the show, and then. 360 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so I will say for the show too. 361 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 1: For like that storyline, I filmed a lot of that, 362 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 1: some of it season one, but then it was all 363 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 1: cut out of season one, right, So then we kind 364 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 1: of picked it back up for season two because I 365 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 1: still was going through this process of like I've never 366 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 1: been to the crash site or my baby daddy died, 367 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 1: and so like that was something that like we wanted 368 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 1: to revisit because like I had my book deal, so like, okay, 369 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 1: this is probably great to kind of open that chapter 370 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 1: starting to write, and like I need to kind of 371 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 1: heal to write for this book. So that was kind 372 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 1: of like the idea behind it. It was very difficult 373 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 1: to do it because it's kind of like something that 374 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 1: you always know you needed to do. We just didn't 375 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 1: want to do it because he knew it was going 376 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 1: to be hard. Like that's how it was to the 377 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 1: crash site, Like I knew I need to do it, 378 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 1: I just kept like pushing it off. So I feel 379 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 1: like even doing it, I didn't do it for the show. 380 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 1: I did it for myself, but I feel like they 381 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 1: gave me an extra push to do that, and I 382 00:15:57,120 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 1: was very grateful that I did, because it healed part 383 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 1: of me inside to an extent. But there is so 384 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 1: much more to that story of like what I dealt with, 385 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 1: like with grief, and you know, like a backside of 386 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 1: like meeting Hudson's dad and like him passing away, and 387 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 1: how I was like kind of suicidal during my pregnancy, 388 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 1: and like how my mom helped pick up those pieces, 389 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 1: and how I went back to byu, you know, even 390 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 1: though I had a kid, and like what it was 391 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 1: like doing that, especially in like a religious culture. So 392 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 1: I talk a lot about that. And then a big 393 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 1: piece that you don't see on the show too, is 394 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 1: I talk about my relationship before I met my son's 395 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 1: father and like the abuse that I went through, and 396 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 1: we did film a little bit of that for the 397 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 1: show that also got cut, so you get to see 398 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 1: like what I went through before I met Hudson's dad, 399 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 1: And I feel like it all kind of like my 400 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 1: story kind of all makes sense once the pieces are 401 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 1: put together, and I feel like it even makes more 402 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 1: sense as to why I'm so neutral in the show 403 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 1: or thanks writers, because you see how much I've been 404 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 1: through and how I hate, like I hate having beef 405 00:16:57,360 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 1: with people. I always like to leave things on a 406 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 1: good note because I know how how fragile life is 407 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 1: and how quickly, like someone that I love was taken 408 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 1: from me, and I would never want to experience that again, 409 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:07,920 Speaker 1: and if I did, I wouldn't want to have regrets. 410 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 1: And I did have regrets, like when my son's father 411 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:12,440 Speaker 1: passed away, because of like certain things that I said. 412 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 3: You know, why do you think they cut it from 413 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:17,359 Speaker 3: the first season? Do you think it was just too deep. 414 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:19,719 Speaker 3: They wanted to get the viewers to get to know 415 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:22,640 Speaker 3: you a little bit better before they learned all this stuff. 416 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 1: Yes, I do. I feel like a lot of storylines 417 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:28,440 Speaker 1: were cut unless they were Taylor, And I said that because, 418 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 1: like she is obviously like kind of the star, the 419 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 1: focal point of the show, and so I feel like 420 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:35,680 Speaker 1: they wanted to follow like the current life drama instead 421 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 1: of like things that maybe we've got into paths that 422 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:40,719 Speaker 1: still affect us now. And I do feel like they 423 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 1: dived into that a little bit more season two. But 424 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:46,160 Speaker 1: even then, I did film like five scenes for my storyline, 425 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 1: and they were all pretty much cut down to those 426 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 1: two that you see of me talking to the mom, 427 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 1: you know, Eric's mom, which is my son's father, his mom, 428 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 1: and then they shows me like going to the crash site. 429 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:01,160 Speaker 1: But I did film like multiple other scenes that were 430 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 1: all cut. I don't know why. I have no idea. 431 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 1: Part of me is fine that they were, because you're 432 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:07,440 Speaker 1: gonna get all that in the book, right, You're gonna 433 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 1: get so much more detail and things that you didn't 434 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:12,479 Speaker 1: even what you would have seen is nowhere near what 435 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:15,400 Speaker 1: isn't the book, you know, So I'm glad to get 436 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:16,200 Speaker 1: the whole thing cut. 437 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. 438 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:19,119 Speaker 3: Did the mom talk girls support your journey in writing 439 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 3: this book. 440 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:22,400 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, for sure. I think like I'm someone who 441 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:24,399 Speaker 1: kind of goes through things on my own and behind 442 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 1: the scenes, I don't like to I don't say like 443 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 1: burden people. That's like what I'm going through is like 444 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 1: they obviously were very supportive, but I feel like when 445 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:33,680 Speaker 1: I was struggling here and there, I didn't tell anyone, 446 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:35,640 Speaker 1: like writing it and stuff like. I mean, I think 447 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:37,440 Speaker 1: michaela certain days I'm like, oh yeah, I'm like a 448 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:39,439 Speaker 1: little depressed, you know, writing this book. And like then 449 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:41,359 Speaker 1: also cookies would show overt my door because she's like 450 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 1: the most like supportive person, Like she's like truly like 451 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:46,879 Speaker 1: the best I love her so much, Like she's just 452 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:49,960 Speaker 1: so supportive of like everything, and that's kind of how 453 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 1: we are together. So like she's alwaysly been very helpful 454 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:54,920 Speaker 1: on my journey because she's probably the only person I 455 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 1: would be like, oh, yeah, I'm like kind of sad 456 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 1: today because like sometimes it's hard to be like vulnerable 457 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:02,440 Speaker 1: and that's sense and tell a friend, you know, like hey, yeah, 458 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 1: I'm like kind of hurting her right now. And I 459 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 1: think me and her, as we've gotten even closer over 460 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 1: the years, have gotten better at that together. Like she'll 461 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:10,920 Speaker 1: be like yeah, this and that, or like postpartum I 462 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:12,119 Speaker 1: try to check in a lot with her too. 463 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:14,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, you guys were pregnant at the same time, right, 464 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 3: and you gave birth around at the same time. 465 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 1: How many weeks or stays apart? Yeah. Yeah, her baby 466 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 1: is six days older than mine, so they're like destined 467 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:27,919 Speaker 1: to be better best friends. Yeah, her baby's name is 468 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:30,440 Speaker 1: Lottie and my baby's name is Charlie, So I guess 469 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 1: they're both nicknames for Charlotte. And we didn't even know that, 470 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:36,119 Speaker 1: like the internet started going crazy. I think both need 471 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:38,199 Speaker 1: their baby Charlotte, and I was like what we did? Like, 472 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:40,639 Speaker 1: I was like so confused. So I didn't even know 473 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:43,159 Speaker 1: that until we you know, heard it online. So now 474 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 1: we kind of play into it. And we both named 475 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:46,639 Speaker 1: our baby Charlotte, and we thought of the name like 476 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:48,880 Speaker 1: we'll like joke around. But yeah, we both did even 477 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 1: know that it was a nickname for Charlotte until yeah, 478 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 1: I guess. 479 00:19:53,640 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 3: So, So, how is the show changed your life? 480 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, It's it's funny because I feel like 481 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 1: it's still the same as far as like I still 482 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:16,719 Speaker 1: feel like me, like nothing feels different to me, but 483 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:23,199 Speaker 1: like obviously financial financially, it's been more beneficial, Like you know, 484 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 1: like this book deal I think would have happened no 485 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:26,639 Speaker 1: matter what, but I think it got it like in 486 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:28,920 Speaker 1: the door of like the best people because the show 487 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 1: and like my story, I had more awareness, right, So 488 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 1: that for sure. And then I think, just like, yeah, 489 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 1: I know it's crazy that like people like know who 490 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 1: we are. I guess that's like the one that's really 491 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 1: different is like going out places and people wanting pictures, 492 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 1: and I mean that would happen a little bit beforehand 493 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:48,679 Speaker 1: because we were doing like the influencer thing and we 494 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 1: all had like followers and stuff like that. But like 495 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 1: obviously it's like way more heightened now. Yeah, so like 496 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:57,399 Speaker 1: that's cool, but like sometimes it's hard because I like 497 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:00,440 Speaker 1: I love to just like you know, well to get 498 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 1: in my sweats and looking like a little homeless, you know, 499 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 1: and sometimes now like. 500 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 3: You're speaking mind Teddy's language. Yeah, like and I love that, 501 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:10,439 Speaker 3: and I feel homeless right now, no exactly, Like I 502 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:12,120 Speaker 3: have to look at I do to do a photo 503 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 3: shoot off this. 504 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 1: That's why I'm like so glammed up. But yeah, so 505 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:16,199 Speaker 1: that's the only thing. It's a little bit different that 506 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:19,399 Speaker 1: it's not like you don't like it, but like I do. 507 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 1: Sometimes I feel like you get watched a little bit, 508 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:25,200 Speaker 1: and so like sometimes that's hard. Like you know, going 509 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:26,680 Speaker 1: to a dinner and you can see people like watching 510 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:29,360 Speaker 1: me and you're like okay, like you're taking your picture 511 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:32,119 Speaker 1: and your pictures that like they're recording you without like 512 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 1: saying hi, and I'm like, wait, like I don't like that, 513 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:36,199 Speaker 1: Like that's the only thing I don't love or like 514 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:38,920 Speaker 1: when I'm with my family and stuff, and then I'm 515 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 1: like if my kids are going faral and they're like 516 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:42,400 Speaker 1: taking videos and like, well, what are you doing with them? 517 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:46,399 Speaker 1: Like that's like kind of right it? Yeah, Well I 518 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:49,159 Speaker 1: was like I just more sorry about the intention behind it, 519 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:51,119 Speaker 1: or like are you doing that to talk shit on me? 520 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 1: Are you like or you just like are you excited 521 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:55,879 Speaker 1: get to a blogger? Yeah, that's the only thing I 522 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:58,440 Speaker 1: worry about. I'm like, if you have good intentions, no problem, 523 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:00,399 Speaker 1: no issue, Come ask me for a picture. Sure. But 524 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:02,199 Speaker 1: like I think when people are secretive about it, like 525 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 1: we know, like when you're filming and stuff like, sometimes 526 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:07,679 Speaker 1: you question their attentions like are you trained to be 527 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 1: like malicious or are you like genuinely like excited. I 528 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 1: don't know, it's like, yeah, that's not like the everst. 529 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:14,639 Speaker 1: Sometimes you have to question yourself or you have to 530 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:17,159 Speaker 1: worry about like being watched when you're like maybe in 531 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 1: a vulnerable position, you know, like or even going to 532 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:21,639 Speaker 1: take the obgyn. When I was first pregnant, I'm like 533 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 1: are people going to see me? And I'm like put 534 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:26,639 Speaker 1: it online because I want to announce my pregnancy like 535 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:28,880 Speaker 1: on my own time, in my own way. So I think, yeah, 536 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 1: that's what you just have to get used to is 537 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 1: like certain moments being exposed maybe maybe before you're ready 538 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:35,120 Speaker 1: or before you want to talk about them. And that's 539 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 1: something that I guess I'm kind of getting used to 540 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 1: as well. 541 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then how has that LDS community responded to 542 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,200 Speaker 2: your book and now going into another? 543 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean I haven't heard anything about the 544 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:52,160 Speaker 1: book at least, I guess what about the show. The show, 545 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 1: I haven't heard anything new like in the past last year, 546 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 1: before it came out and the trailer came out that 547 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 1: you know, everyone was freaking out, like these aren't real 548 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 1: Mormons and this is not what Warren's are, and like 549 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:02,879 Speaker 1: people were freaking out right, and like that was a 550 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 1: little hard because I'm like, this is my own community 551 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:06,879 Speaker 1: like kind of attacking me, and I'm like I am 552 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 1: a member and like I teach children about Jesus and 553 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 1: our church. This is kind of weird for me. And 554 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 1: it made me question myself too. I'm like, am I 555 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 1: doing something wrong? Like is this bad? Like I feel 556 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:18,440 Speaker 1: like I did question myself and that was kind of hard. 557 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 1: And then it came out and like people realize it's 558 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 1: not all about like swinging and drinking. Until like people 559 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:25,679 Speaker 1: were like chill, but I feel like I've heard a 560 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 1: ton and if I do, I just don't care, like whatever, 561 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:31,399 Speaker 1: Like you can think what you want, but like I. 562 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:34,159 Speaker 3: Don't know, you immune to it after a while. 563 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:35,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I think I'm just used to it. I 564 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 1: did worry in the beginning because I just I mean, 565 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:39,400 Speaker 1: I hadn't seen the show when it came out either. 566 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 1: It's like I don't know how it's edited. I'm like, 567 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 1: what if it does make it look like we're like 568 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 1: just bashing the church, because like that's not what I 569 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,440 Speaker 1: want to do. Like it could be any religion and 570 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 1: I'm not going to bash it because I just think 571 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 1: it's like disrespectful. So I was a little worried, and 572 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 1: then it came out and I was like, oh, that's. 573 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 2: Fine, Yeah, yeah that makes sense. Yeah, what else can 574 00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 2: you tease in regards to the books so that we 575 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:01,399 Speaker 2: can get everybody buying it? 576 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 1: I mean I do tell like a little bit behind 577 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 1: the scenes of mom Talk, which like I think we 578 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:08,239 Speaker 1: don't really talk about the show and kind of like 579 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:11,200 Speaker 1: how I got into mom Talk because I think a 580 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,120 Speaker 1: lot of people this is like one thing that's funny 581 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 1: that kind of like will kind of bug. A lot 582 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:16,920 Speaker 1: of us is that people online will be like, you 583 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 1: guys don't even have a career without Taylor, and like 584 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:21,159 Speaker 1: you'd be nothing without her. And I'm like, I was 585 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 1: making money doing social media full time before I met Taylor, 586 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 1: like we were friends on social media media, and Mikayla's same. 587 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 1: And I can't speak for everyone, but there's a lot 588 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:30,639 Speaker 1: of girls who already had their own careers on social 589 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 1: media before they reported mom Talk. So like I had 590 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 1: one point two million followers before I even went into 591 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:37,920 Speaker 1: mom Talk. But a lot of people don't know that 592 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:39,680 Speaker 1: because I see us all together and they're like, oh 593 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:41,879 Speaker 1: my gosh, you won't even have followers without her. I'm like, no, 594 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 1: I very much like grew this on my own. So 595 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 1: I think it's kind of like fun toeal to tell, 596 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 1: like how my career was before mom Talk as well, 597 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:52,359 Speaker 1: because I worked corporate. I was in advertising and then 598 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:54,359 Speaker 1: when I worked at Goldman Sachs and I worked as 599 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:57,120 Speaker 1: a marketing manager before I took social media full time. 600 00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,439 Speaker 1: So I did stuff and the people like just don't know, 601 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 1: Like people I don't know a lot about my tennis background, 602 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 1: and that was like my whole life growing up was like, 603 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 1: my identity is like rooted in sports, but people would 604 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 1: have no idea watching the show because it's not talked about. 605 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 1: So I am excited for them to get to know 606 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 1: me better because I do feel like a lot of 607 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 1: the things that I film on the show unfortunately get 608 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 1: cut a lot, and I think it's because I'm not 609 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:22,440 Speaker 1: very dramatic, like I I don't have a dramatic past, 610 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 1: and you'll read about that in the book. I think 611 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 1: some people who have interviewed me, they're like, wow, I 612 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 1: didn't know, like your life was so messy back then. 613 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, like there was a reality show back 614 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 1: then then it would have been crazy, but like, luckily. 615 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 3: That probably wouldn't have been good for you. 616 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:37,400 Speaker 1: No, it wouldn't have so like we're in a good 617 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:39,360 Speaker 1: place now and stuff, so I can talk about those 618 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 1: experiences and use them. And I also think that's why 619 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 1: I am very protective of my friends, and you see 620 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:45,399 Speaker 1: i'll see that on the show, is because of what 621 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 1: I've been through, especially with Taylor, because you were like, 622 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:49,919 Speaker 1: why is she so invested in a relationship Because I 623 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 1: feel like I've lived it before and I hate watching 624 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:54,879 Speaker 1: you make the same mistakes over and over again. I 625 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 1: want to like stop it from happening because I know 626 00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 1: how painful it can be. So I think people when 627 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:02,399 Speaker 1: they read the book, they'll realize why I am the 628 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:04,119 Speaker 1: way that I am, and I'm excited for them to 629 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:04,920 Speaker 1: see that. 630 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:07,679 Speaker 3: Do you talk about the girls in your book and 631 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 3: is there anything in there that could potentially upset them? 632 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:14,200 Speaker 1: I do talk with them a little bit. Nothing that 633 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 1: would upset them, I don't think, not that I can 634 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 1: think of, because it was like, it's not like it's like, 635 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,439 Speaker 1: you know a ton about mom talk. It's kind of 636 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 1: like how I got into it, and like a little 637 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 1: bit about the scandal and stuff like that. But I 638 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 1: don't think there's anything that would upset them. If there was, 639 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 1: I'd be shocked and I probably wouldn't care because I'm like, 640 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 1: I hate write anything rude. 641 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:38,400 Speaker 3: A lot of people that write books will like out 642 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 3: certain people that and piss off family members. So you 643 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:44,160 Speaker 3: don't do any of that. 644 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 1: It's not like a tell all where I'm like, and 645 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:47,920 Speaker 1: then this person did this, and this person did this. 646 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,880 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm someone who loves to give grace 647 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,119 Speaker 1: to people because I know I'm not perfect. In the past, 648 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 1: I was definitely not always the best, and so I 649 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 1: feel like I have to give space for people to 650 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:01,919 Speaker 1: maybe done me wrong or done me dirty in the past, 651 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,239 Speaker 1: because like we're all trying our best, is how I 652 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:07,640 Speaker 1: feel like and in the past, and when you're young, 653 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 1: I always say, before your brain's developed, you do make 654 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 1: a lot of mistakes. Like I don't think I realized 655 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 1: that to like got older and I was like, wait, 656 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 1: what were you doing? Or like why'd you do this? 657 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 1: Like I feel like you realize as you get older, 658 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,160 Speaker 1: you know certain things you could have done better. 659 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 2: I guess, yeah, And have you heard from anyone that 660 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 2: you hadn't talked to for a long time once the 661 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 2: book came out? 662 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:30,399 Speaker 1: No, no, yet, I still feel like I worry, Like 663 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 1: when you're talking about family and like relationships, it is 664 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 1: a little nerve wracking, Like I'd be lying if I 665 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 1: said I wasn't nervous about it. I did let my dad. 666 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 1: My dad is the first person to read it. I mean, 667 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 1: my husband has read like most of it, but like periodically, 668 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,399 Speaker 1: he hasn't read like the final version because we did 669 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 1: edit things out. But my dad was like sending me 670 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 1: paragraphs and he was like, if I would have known 671 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,159 Speaker 1: this was happening, I would have killed this guy. And 672 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:57,919 Speaker 1: I was like, I know, since I didn't tell you 673 00:27:57,960 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 1: because I didn't want you going to jail. So like 674 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,879 Speaker 1: wind the dad and not a dad in prison. So 675 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:05,440 Speaker 1: like certain things like that, Like my dad read it 676 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 1: and who was he was shocked by some of the 677 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 1: things that I wrote that he had no idea about, 678 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 1: you know, So I do get a little worry about 679 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. But like my dad's wrote it, 680 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 1: and he, you know, is very supportive. So yeah, that's good. 681 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 3: Well, congratulations and thank you so much for you going 682 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:22,360 Speaker 3: on and talking to us. 683 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:24,160 Speaker 1: Of course it's always fun. 684 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 2: And where do people get the book? 685 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, so it's like all over. It'll be on Amazon. 686 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,679 Speaker 1: It's on Amazon, Barnes and Noble. I think it'll be 687 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,879 Speaker 1: in stores and Target, like all the main areas you 688 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 1: can get it. People want to sign copy. It's available 689 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 1: on Premiere Collectibles and then obviously the book tour. 690 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 3: Do you have a copy of it in front of you. 691 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 1: It's in my my little book area here she. 692 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 2: Is, Oh told you so good, have a lot more. 693 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 1: Glamor on than she does. But we want to go 694 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 1: a little more in like the that's beautiful. 695 00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I love it. We can't wait to read it. 696 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 2: And thank you so much for coming on to talk 697 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 2: about it and sharing your story. It's going to change 698 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 2: a lot of people's lives. 699 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:09,960 Speaker 1: Thank you. Fun Bye Guy, Bye bye Yah.