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Speaker 1: Ron Anian the majority of scan tools in the marketplace. Today,

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Speaker 1: we'll do a complete vehicle scandal access. Think of an

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Speaker 1: office with fifty computers in it. If you had one

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Speaker 1: other forty nine that would pull all the other computers

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Speaker 1: talk to them, or the online who's missing?

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Speaker 2: Who's not with the.

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Speaker 1: The car Doctor.

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Speaker 2: The check engine like just went on. And when I

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Speaker 2: pulled into a local oral parts store to test it,

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Speaker 2: the code came up nothing detected or zero.

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Speaker 1: Detected right because the local autoparts store is testing OBD

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Speaker 1: two only.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to the radio home of ron Anian, the Car Doctor.

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Speaker 3: Since nineteen ninety one, this is where car owners the

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Speaker 3: world overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair.

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Speaker 3: If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up

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Speaker 3: the phone and call in.

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Speaker 1: The garage doors are opening, but I am here to

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Speaker 1: take your call at eight five five five six ninety

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Speaker 3: Running.

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Speaker 1: Well, another busy week at the shop, and here we

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Speaker 1: are on radio again, and we get to talk to

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Speaker 1: each other and talk about our problems and whatever they

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Speaker 1: might be. And I'm looking forward to it. So let's

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Speaker 1: get together this hour eight five five five six zero

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Speaker 1: nine nine zero zero. Recovering from a little bit of

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Speaker 1: a I don't know if it's a sore throat or

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Speaker 1: first hour. Let's get through the second. Let's go over

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Speaker 1: to Lenny and Jersey to GMC Sierra. Lenny, you're out

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Speaker 1: with the car, doctor, sir, how can I help.

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Speaker 4: Hi? Ron, thanks for taking the call. Chasing an electrical problem.

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Speaker 4: It's a plow truck. But everything was working, you know,

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Speaker 4: pretty normally until the other day. I when I go

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Speaker 4: to hit the brake, the indicators turn and signal indicators

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Speaker 4: light up and I get no break lights. They're very

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Speaker 4: dam There is something there, but it's very dim. So

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Speaker 4: obviously to trace all the grounds and check, you know,

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Speaker 4: I looked through all the grounds I could find. I

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Speaker 4: went even to the battery side and replace the battery,

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Speaker 4: and I'm just kind of I do know someone has

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Speaker 4: this cantol that.

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Speaker 1: Could all right, Well, let's let's get yeah, let's try

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Speaker 1: and do this simple. Lenny, do the directionals work without

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Speaker 1: the break lights?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 1: So you have no directionals either?

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Speaker 5: Uh?

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Speaker 4: Well no, I'm sorry. Yes, they do work if I

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Speaker 4: have the key on.

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Speaker 1: If you're driving, they will work. Yeah, if you're if

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Speaker 1: you're driving down the road, your foot's not on the

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Speaker 1: brake pedal and you go to make a left turn

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Speaker 1: and you turn on the left directional, they blink.

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Speaker 4: They blink normal, the real ones just very faintly light up.

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Speaker 1: All right, does the truck have cruise control?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: All right?

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Speaker 1: Does a cruise control work?

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Speaker 4: I never tried that.

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Speaker 1: All right, I don't think this is your problem, but

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Speaker 1: I just don't want to. I'm trying to do this

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Speaker 1: simple without, you know, too many tools. So the reason

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Speaker 1: I ask about cruise control is because if you're driving

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Speaker 1: down the road on cruise and you tap the brake pedal,

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Speaker 1: does the cruise control disengage? If the cruise control shuts off,

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Speaker 1: that tells me the switch is good because the same switch,

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Speaker 1: the same switch for stop lamp also is input for

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Speaker 1: a cruise control because obviously they figure that when you

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Speaker 1: step on the brake lights, the brakes the brake lights switch,

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Speaker 1: you're asking for break, they're going to turn a cruise

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Speaker 1: control off. So we can that way, we can prove

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Speaker 1: just want to establish how the system works. It sounds

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Speaker 1: like you've got a backfeed somewhere. All right, Now, this

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Speaker 4: Up an advantage?

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Speaker 2: You could?

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Speaker 4: You know, it's it's yeah, it's it's fairly rusty, you know,

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Speaker 4: check all the grounds. I grinded them down and cleaned them.

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Speaker 1: All right, what if you take the what if you

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Speaker 1: take the bulbs out of the back.

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Speaker 4: For the stuff, And yeah, when I take the bulbs

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Speaker 1: It no longer back it no longer back feeds.

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Speaker 4: Right, So, yeah, the indicators don't light up, okay, and

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Speaker 1: And what if we worked our way forward because somewhere

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Speaker 1: harnesses leading up to the tail lamp sockets as those

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Speaker 1: trucks have aged, and somewhere somewhere there's going to be

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Speaker 4: Oh, yes, behind the bumper there's a like has like

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Speaker 1: What if we figure out which one which one is

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Speaker 1: feeding the brake lights and disconnect that does our problem

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Speaker 1: for that matter, right, do you have a test light? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: somehow I knew you would, all right, And why don't

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Speaker 1: we find that, get a wiring diagram and have somebody

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Speaker 1: step on the brake and then somebody used the directional

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Speaker 1: and let's power the test light. If the test light

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Speaker 1: we know from there forward is good, right, right?

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Speaker 1: And then now, because you got to remember as a

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Speaker 1: to fix the vehicle. You got to get to the

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Speaker 1: if I can prove, if I can prove the front

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Speaker 1: back somewhere, all right, right, so you know where. Rather

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Speaker 1: than rather than just clean the grounds, how about we

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Speaker 1: just take a can we set up a long jumper wire,

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Speaker 1: go back to the battery with it and provide alternate

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Speaker 1: ground back to the battery, follow the electrons. Right, if

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Speaker 1: we provide an alternate ground, maybe there's a rotted body

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Speaker 1: and that's why we're getting the back feed that we're getting.

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Speaker 1: But but you know, let's let's let's look at splitting

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Speaker 1: the circuit in half.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And and would it.

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Speaker 1: Change if I take if I take the left tail

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Speaker 1: Is that going to be an eleven fifty seven? That

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Speaker 1: it's a two filament. If I take if I take

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Speaker 1: the left stop light bulb out, does the right side

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Speaker 4: And at least now yes.

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Speaker 1: No, no, not not not switching them leaving one out,

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Speaker 1: with the socket and it's wiring on that side. So

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Speaker 1: this is a three step process. I want you to

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Speaker 1: I want you to find that connector and you know,

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Speaker 1: get a wiring diagram and go through pin out the wires.

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Speaker 1: All right, here's the stop light, here's the directional boom

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Speaker 1: boom boom, boom boom with a test light these all

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Speaker 1: work good. That's done. Then I want you to now

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Speaker 1: we know the problem is somewhere in the harness. Going

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Speaker 1: brake light's only working on the right side. Does the

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Speaker 1: left side bulb ben, take out the right Does the

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Speaker 1: Then there's something in the harness that's common to both

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Speaker 1: that's affecting both both legs. And I would look very

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Speaker 1: They are going to feed. They have to feed, if

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Speaker 1: you think about it, they have to feed. The directionals

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Speaker 1: separate from the stop light right. You can't activate the

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Speaker 1: right go on. It's got to be different. It's got

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Speaker 1: where's the circuit cross feeding? For all?

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Speaker 4: You know?

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Speaker 1: The problems in that connector that you're going to take apart,

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Speaker 1: depending upon where it's located, is it still is it

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Speaker 1: still secure in place? How much road slush and muck

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Speaker 1: over the years have gone up there?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Okay, now, does that have its own ground or is

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Speaker 4: it just grounded into the bed where's it sits in

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Speaker 4: like a slot that's like made where it fits.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's a plas to connect with that. That harness

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Speaker 1: is not grounded, but the circuits that operate within it,

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Speaker 1: each circuit will carry its own individual ground Yeah, does

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Speaker 2: Yes? Yes?

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Speaker 4: When I was having an issue, like the signals and

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Speaker 4: the brake lights weren't.

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Speaker 1: Right, well, that's why I'm that's why I'm saying this way.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna hear do.

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Speaker 4: This, Okay, Yeah, I can check it from there and

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Speaker 4: I'll know if it's from there.

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Speaker 1: Take that Take that connector out of its metal holder. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: all right, and it's gonna work the same. You're gonna

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Speaker 1: have the exact same problem, right right, Okay, And what

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Speaker 1: did I just prove? I just prove that the connector

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Speaker 1: is not grounded. It's just there in that bracket to

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Speaker 1: hold it. That's that's the device by which they secure

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Speaker 1: it to the chassis.

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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, okay, all right.

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Speaker 1: So that's right, that's where you are, kidd call.

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Speaker 4: Me back, you know what to do, all right, Okay, thank.

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Speaker 1: You, very welcome, Monnie. Good luck to you.

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Speaker 6: God.

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Speaker 1: We're getting plow trucks. Ready, does that mean it's gonna snow? Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna pull over, take a Pause'm running any in

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Speaker 1: the card doctor, No using the S word. No using

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Speaker 1: the S word. Well, you know what happens when the

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Speaker 1: S word comes. Tom Oh, I know what happens in

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Speaker 1: my language turns blue. But anyway, well, no, you're your

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Speaker 1: favorite person is going to show up soon. I can

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Speaker 1: hear those. I can hear those. Mariah Carrie, Christmas Carol's

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Speaker 1: coming anytime soon?

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Speaker 5: Please?

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Tom loves Mariah Carey. Everybody should send Tom

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Speaker 1: Mariah Carey singing for Christmas CDs. He loves them. He

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Speaker 1: loves Mariah Carey. He'll listen to her twenty four to seven,

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Speaker 1: or at least for five seconds before he throws him

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Speaker 1: out the window. Eight five five five six zero nine

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Speaker 1: nine zero zero, running into the car. Doctor. We'll be

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Speaker 1: back right after this.

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Speaker 7: Don't go away, Tom.

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Speaker 1: For the best in car advice.

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Speaker 5: Give Ron a call eight five five five six zero

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Speaker 5: nine nine zero zero.

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Speaker 4: Now back to Ron.

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Speaker 1: Hey, let's cruise over and talk to Let's go to

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Speaker 1: Tommy in New York. Tommy, welcome to the car doctor.

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Speaker 5: Oh hey, hell are ya, I got a twenty eighteen

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Speaker 5: and seventy two fifty. Every once in a while I

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Speaker 1: You could a couple of things you can do here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but sometimes we don't. Sometimes cold weather affects it.

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Speaker 2: Then I would look with Charlie nineteen zero two seven Apple.

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Speaker 1: Edward Charlie, nineteen zero two seven, Apple publication dates somewhere

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Speaker 1: it's I always think of Yogi Bera. He's my favorite Yankee. Right,

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Speaker 5: I would absolutely no, that's that's he gave me two

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you need, you need, you needed a jump start,

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Speaker 5: So but I remember rebuilding collaborators in my in my

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Speaker 5: So but or or put in a set of points.

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Speaker 5: Point anybody on the thirty five day, like what's that?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, many a time on the side of the road

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Speaker 1: I just the goofy things we did. So anyway, do that,

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Speaker 1: You're very welcome Tommy. Yeah, I tell you what you

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Speaker 1: God, the things I went through as a kid, I mean,

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Speaker 1: Oh well, I'm Ronning Andy in the car. Doctor. I

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Speaker 1: Ron's in the zone the AutoZone studio and he'll be

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Speaker 1: Here's Ron. Oh yes, and here we are in our

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Speaker 1: in Delaware. Joe, Welcome to the car doctor, sir, Thanks

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Speaker 1: for hanging on so long. What's going on?

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Speaker 2: Oh? No problem, Ron, Yeah, I have V six twenty

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Speaker 1: Why what made you? What made you want to do that? Joe?

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Speaker 2: Well, I know it's got the direct injection, and what

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, the oil catch can idea on direct injection,

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Speaker 1: So let's let's talk about that a little bit. You know,

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Speaker 1: injection means it's the injector is placed. It's not at

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Speaker 1: You know, as a matter of fact, it's very difficult

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Speaker 1: There's actually you sort of have to do it two

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Speaker 1: So using an oil catch can't. Yeah, I get it.

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Speaker 1: I think it's all the rage now. I've seen it

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Speaker 1: They're trying to keep any oil particles. It's catching the

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Speaker 1: You know, if it's if it's working for you, Joe,

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Speaker 1: I don't see a downside to it, all right, you know,

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Speaker 1: I would do a fuel system yeah, a formal fuel

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Speaker 1: ninety thousand mile mark, you know, you know, it's it's funny, right.

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Speaker 1: Oil drain intervals are going up, service intervals are increasing,

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Speaker 2: Joe, I'll read five thousand synthetic.

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Speaker 2: into a four cylinder, which I don't like.

436
00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:20,800
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's got active fuel men.

437
00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:23,040
Speaker 2: I know they have problems with those lifters. Yep.

438
00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:27,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's got active fuel management. Uh, you know, changing

439
00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:30,240
Speaker 1: the oil in that using a good quality oil. Uh,

440
00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:32,679
Speaker 1: you know, I would go read you know, I was

441
00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:36,280
Speaker 1: reading the Mobile one website this week. I was looking

442
00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:38,240
Speaker 1: for oil for a Volkswagen and I was doing some

443
00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:41,440
Speaker 1: reading on Mobile one, and it's it's fascinating what they

444
00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:44,480
Speaker 1: talk about. You know, Mobile one has really up their game.

445
00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:46,560
Speaker 1: Not that they were ever a bad oil, They've always

446
00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:48,000
Speaker 1: been a great oil, but I think they've they're a

447
00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:51,359
Speaker 1: great oil that's gotten better in terms of what they're

448
00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:55,479
Speaker 1: reacting to in the market and their capability there. Go

449
00:22:55,600 --> 00:23:00,480
Speaker 1: read about low speed pre ignition that the LSP and

450
00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:05,440
Speaker 1: that'll turn your hair gray, and yeah, they talk about

451
00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:07,760
Speaker 1: different things on the mobile website. I think it's mobile

452
00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:11,400
Speaker 1: dot com and you know, just just fascinating. And then

453
00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:13,840
Speaker 1: the use of mobile. You know a lot of people

454
00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:16,359
Speaker 1: don't realize. And I go through this education at the

455
00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:18,720
Speaker 1: counter at the shop all the time. They're just, you know,

456
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:20,720
Speaker 1: is an oil oil? And I explained to them the

457
00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,840
Speaker 1: next time you're in a supermarket, grab two bottles of

458
00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:28,920
Speaker 1: similar viscosity mobile one, for example, turn the bottles over,

459
00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:33,480
Speaker 1: read the back. This Mobile one five thirty is rated

460
00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:37,560
Speaker 1: for Ford and Chrysler. This Mobile one five thirty is

461
00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:41,719
Speaker 1: rated for GM. And that that's not unusual. You know,

462
00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:45,399
Speaker 1: not all oils are the same simply because of viscosity.

463
00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:47,560
Speaker 1: There's so many other things that go into it. And

464
00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:50,600
Speaker 1: when it comes down to that active fuel management engine

465
00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:52,840
Speaker 1: of yours, I'd want to make sure I'm using the

466
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:57,440
Speaker 1: exact correct oil because those yeah, you're right, those lifters

467
00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:00,119
Speaker 1: do fail, those engines do have their issues. But it

468
00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:03,520
Speaker 1: and I see this time and time again, the vehicle

469
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:07,000
Speaker 1: that's running the better oil, like a mobile one, is

470
00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:11,440
Speaker 1: having less problems, or the problems don't happen till they're

471
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:14,879
Speaker 1: at higher mileage. So it's it's worth the look so,

472
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:17,840
Speaker 1: you know, and if you're in a if you're in

473
00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,240
Speaker 1: it for the long haul, that'll that'll get you there.

474
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:25,560
Speaker 2: Definitely, all right, question for sure? Go ahead twenty thirteen

475
00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:30,240
Speaker 2: wrap four four cylinder training bit of drippage from the

476
00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:34,160
Speaker 2: rear main. I did put in at two or five

477
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:36,760
Speaker 2: I believe it was, and it seemed to slow it

478
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:41,440
Speaker 2: down to almost nothing. But I'm wondering if that could

479
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,920
Speaker 2: be the piece of the valve, which is very hard

480
00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,240
Speaker 2: to get to on that particular engine.

481
00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:48,600
Speaker 1: But I may do that, well if you want to.

482
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:49,960
Speaker 2: You've ever had that situation.

483
00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:51,879
Speaker 1: I haven't had that situation, But if you want to

484
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:55,200
Speaker 1: see if the problem goes away, why don't you pop

485
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:58,200
Speaker 1: the dipstick up a half inch and drive around like that,

486
00:24:58,720 --> 00:24:59,920
Speaker 1: relieve some of the crank case.

487
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:02,720
Speaker 2: Press relieve the pressure on Yeah.

488
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,919
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, yeah? Does that does that take us? Does

489
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:06,680
Speaker 1: that take us in the right direction? I'm not saying

490
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,399
Speaker 1: as a permanent solution, but does that take us in

491
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:11,480
Speaker 1: the right direction? How many miles are on that rat

492
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:16,160
Speaker 1: about sixty one? Yeah, I'd be surprised that the valve

493
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 1: wasn't working, you know.

494
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:20,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of a low mileage. It's kind of problem.

495
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:22,920
Speaker 1: It's kind of it's kind of low mileage exactly.

496
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, you got to pull the engine on the transmission

497
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 2: and get to the seal, So that's kind of a

498
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:29,920
Speaker 2: less resort.

499
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:31,440
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, that's that is the last That is the

500
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 1: last step. But and it may not be the rearmain,

501
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,120
Speaker 1: it could be something else. I would try relieving crank

502
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,119
Speaker 1: case pressure. See if that makes a difference. Have you

503
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:42,399
Speaker 1: owned it since new? Do you know the oil change history?

504
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 2: Not since new, but since like twenty thousand miles and

505
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 2: they always had it service to the dealer and then

506
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:54,520
Speaker 2: I serviced at every five thousand after that. Okay, you

507
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:57,080
Speaker 2: know it runs beautiful. I mean it's like bring car

508
00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 2: basically except for that, right you know, So I would

509
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,920
Speaker 2: do the work it needed, right, Well.

510
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:07,359
Speaker 1: Hopefully I don't have to at sixty At sixty thousand miles,

511
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,199
Speaker 1: you're going to do all your fluids and do all

512
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 1: your filters anyway, right.

513
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:13,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do my transmission like every two years. I

514
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 2: com bat and you know, even though it's a pain

515
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,199
Speaker 2: in the neck, there's no dipstick, but I do it anyway.

516
00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:20,680
Speaker 1: Yep, you want to do trans you want to do

517
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:22,320
Speaker 1: When was the last time you did break fluid?

518
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:25,920
Speaker 2: Oh not two months ago?

519
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,640
Speaker 1: Okay, good good good, Yeah, that's good.

520
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 2: I'm I'm an old air Chris mechanics, so I stay

521
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:31,400
Speaker 2: on top.

522
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:33,600
Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh you're one of those guys.

523
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:37,000
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, wing nut.

524
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:39,639
Speaker 1: No, that's all right. Listen. I remember my dad telling me,

525
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 1: because my dad was an aircraft mechanic during the Second

526
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 1: World War, and Dad always said, be sure you're right,

527
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,600
Speaker 1: then go ahead. He said, there's nowhere you can't get

528
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:48,639
Speaker 1: out of ten thousand feet and check the carburetor on

529
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:50,080
Speaker 1: a cloud. I never forgot that.

530
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:53,280
Speaker 2: No, yeah you can't. That's very true.

531
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 1: You can try, but it's not going to work out well.

532
00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,240
Speaker 2: So no, maybe on the old bike plane.

533
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:03,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, Joe a pleasure. One more question, Yeah, tell

534
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:05,439
Speaker 1: you let me pull over take this boys when we

535
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 1: come back. All right, Sit tight, Joe, I'm running any

536
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:09,399
Speaker 1: in the car. Doctor. We'll return right after this.

537
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 7: Don't go away.

538
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 1: Welcome back, Ronnie the card doctor Room, Joe and Delaware.

539
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:27,200
Speaker 2: Joe.

540
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:30,880
Speaker 1: You're still there, sir? Yes, last question?

541
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 2: What do you got for sure? On the Silverado? I

542
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 2: had a spark bug wise arc and I bought the

543
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,359
Speaker 2: set at NAPA. I changed that one everything was fine.

544
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 2: I was going to change all the rest, and says,

545
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 2: let me check the resistance. The original GMS, the the

546
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 2: old ones that are in there were four thousand homes

547
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 2: and it's only about four inch wire. Now, the NAPA

548
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,359
Speaker 2: were eight thousand holmes. Do you ever run across that?

549
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,440
Speaker 2: And so I left, you know, the original GM except

550
00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 2: for the one NAPPA that yeah.

551
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 1: That the you know, I wouldn't be happy with that.

552
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 1: My question is are they the right wires? And the

553
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:08,159
Speaker 1: reason I say that is there's something about that generation

554
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 1: with the short I thought it depended upon what coil

555
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 1: it had. Either the coil or the wires were was

556
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 1: a choice?

557
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:17,680
Speaker 7: All right?

558
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I mean wires wire right, It shouldn't It

559
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 1: shouldn't vary that much. And I would grab a set

560
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 1: of I would go grab a set of original GMS

561
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:31,159
Speaker 1: if you can find find a local Delco store or

562
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 1: get get down to a local auto zone if you can,

563
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,920
Speaker 1: and see what they have, and I would measure those wires. Listen,

564
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 1: I've done that. I've taken an O meter out in

565
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 1: front of the guy and you, yeah, why not? It's

566
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 1: you know, this is what I'm looking for. Uh, you know,

567
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 1: I I'm not bashful. You know they're gonna look at

568
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 1: you funny because they don't understand it. Uh. You know,

569
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 1: parts parts houses today, the old school parts houses don't

570
00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 1: exist like they once did. But I would run down

571
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 1: to a local autos on maybe NAP has got an issue,

572
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 1: and if they've got some Delkos in stock and measure

573
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 1: those and see what that does for you, because I

574
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 1: would have more faith than that because to me, why

575
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 1: is it double? Something doesn't make sense there, you know,

576
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 1: and they might be home for the vehicle. So and here,

577
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 1: let me just leave you with this. You're an old

578
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 1: school mechanic. You know the name Bart all right, b R.

579
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 1: Dahl Right, old school. You know that fourteen Silverado of

580
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 1: yours with the a f M, with the active fuel management.

581
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 1: You know, it may be time, depending on how many

582
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 1: miles you've got on it. They make a very good

583
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 1: product part number four oh one to nine engine Flush,

584
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 1: which helps clean out varnish and sludge, especially on direct

585
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 1: injection engines. And you can you can use that, you know,

586
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 1: right before the oil change and just follow the directions

587
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 1: on the bottle. We've been using that with some really

588
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 1: good success in cleaning up sloppy, dirty engines of late.

589
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:00,120
Speaker 1: You'll find more on their website.

590
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 2: I'll check it out, but it should be clean. I

591
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 2: got about sixty thousand on that right, and I'll check

592
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 2: it out.

593
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 1: Bar and then and then, yeah, I always forget about Bartol.

594
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 1: They've been around forever. They're a great company. And then

595
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:13,720
Speaker 1: they also make something a six oh one to five

596
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 1: stop leak, which will help revitalize seals. So if any

597
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 1: of the seals on that Toyota are getting tired, it

598
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 1: will put some life back into them and that may

599
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 1: solve your oil leak problem on the Toyota as well.

600
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 1: So there you go.

601
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 2: I was told Blue Streak or at two o five,

602
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 2: but I didn't. I didn't hear too much about the Bartole,

603
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 2: but I'll check it out.

604
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, Bartol's been around, God, they've they've they've been around

605
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 1: since the days of when I started in the gas

606
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 1: station when I was sixteen, So they're uh and they've

607
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 1: been around I think since the thirties if I remember right,

608
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 1: if I remember the logo, so they've been around forever.

609
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 1: They're uh yeah, something worth looking.

610
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 2: At, all, right, kiddo, All right, thanks An.

611
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 1: You're very welcome. Joe be well, uh, You're welcome. You know,

612
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 1: auto repair changes, it's always evolving, it's always moving forward,

613
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 1: it's always there's always something different about it. And gee,

614
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 1: listening to Joe talk about airplanes kind of reminded me

615
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 1: of Dad. There's a there's a couple of stories kicking

616
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 1: around in my head. Maybe we'll talk about him one day,

617
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 1: but not today. Eight five five five six zero nine

618
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 1: nine zero zero. I'm ronnin Inian. I'll be back right

619
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 1: after this.

620
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 6: Don't go away.

621
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 1: I'm back running the Car Doctor. This one's for Kyle

622
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 1: and Michigan. Kyle, are you listening? God, I sound like

623
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 1: Fraser Crane. I'm listening. Remember that radio show or that

624
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 1: TV show when he was doing his radio show. I'm listening.

625
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 1: Can you tell I'm watching it again on Amazon? Kyle

626
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 1: writes any Kyle from Michigan. Hey, Ron, I got a

627
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 1: two thousand and six Chevy HHR that keeps throwing at

628
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 1: P zero four to twenty. Could you give me a

629
00:31:57,560 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 1: good place to start with on how to figure this

630
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 1: issue out? Thanks for the time. I enjoy, Oh, enjoy

631
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,959
Speaker 1: the rest of your day, Kyle. Yeah, Kyle, listen. P.

632
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 1: Zero four to twenty happens because it's seeing the catalytic

633
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:12,479
Speaker 1: converter as being inefficient. How does it know? There's an

634
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 1: oxygen sensor in front of the cat, there's an oxygen

635
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 1: sensor after the cat. A catalytic converter stores oxygen, and

636
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 1: a catalytic converter loves the store oxygen. It's kind of

637
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 1: like a fat guy at a hero shop. It just

638
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 1: keeps eating and eating and eating and storing and eating

639
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 1: and eating and eating. And it's just storing oxygen. And

640
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 1: then every once in a while it burps, and the

641
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 1: length of time between the burp and the store tells it.

642
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 1: How tells the computer how efficient it's being. It sees

643
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 1: the difference. It knows when it burns because it sees

644
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 1: a variation in two sensor signal on the down leg side.

645
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 1: So things to be concerned about. You don't say mileage.

646
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 1: Mileage doesn't really matter to me when I'm diagnosing something

647
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 1: in this case, because I'm still going to look for

648
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 1: the same things. Does this car have an oil consumption issue?

649
00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 1: Does this car have a coolant consumption issue? Either one

650
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 1: of those can cause a premature death of a catalytic

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Speaker 1: converter or an erroneous reading. All right, does this car

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Speaker 1: have any sort of an exhaust leak, and i'm talking small,

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Speaker 1: I'm talking does it make an exhaust tic tic tic

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Speaker 1: tic tick when it's cold and then it goes away

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Speaker 1: when it's warm, when it warms up. All of that

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Speaker 1: can cause an imbalance because that's unmetered on accounted for

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Speaker 1: oxygen also being brought in. People don't realize an exhaust leak.

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Speaker 1: There's a reversion. There's a reverse process where oxygen will

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Speaker 1: be drawn into a system with an exhaust leak, it's

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Speaker 1: not just exhaust coming out. So are there any kinds

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Speaker 1: of an exhaust leak on this vehicle? If there's no

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Speaker 1: exhaust leaks, if coolant is good, if it's not consuming oil,

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Speaker 1: then we want to go and do an oxygen storage

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Speaker 1: capacity test. Set it up on a scan tool. You

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Speaker 1: can actually look at upstream O two. You'll see it

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Speaker 1: switching high low. Look at downstream O two you'll see

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Speaker 1: it constantly. What's the length of time? And you can

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Speaker 1: just google osc oxygen sensor capacity or storage test and

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Speaker 1: you can actually see how it's done. It's a measurement

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Speaker 1: of time on a scan tool and that will tell

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Speaker 1: you about cat efficiency. You're looking to see it hit

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Speaker 1: this seventy percent tile. Anything less than seventy percent that

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Speaker 1: cat is inefficient, and I mean sixty nine percent. You're out.

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Speaker 1: So you'll see it. You'll understand that if you start

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Speaker 1: looking up the test procedure. Last, all right, there's a

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Speaker 1: bulletin that talks about a reprogramming for we'ren't. That word

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Speaker 1: errant keeps coming in my mind today. I'm errant intermittent

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Speaker 1: P zero four twenties. It's related to It also came

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Speaker 1: out on a primary piece of information from GM thirty

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Speaker 1: five sixty two C where they talk about a computer reflash.

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Speaker 1: Although this is an older car, I doubt it's applicable,

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Speaker 1: but it's worth looking at since you're going to go

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Speaker 1: through and do the rest of the research. I'm on

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Speaker 1: an ay in the car, doctor reminding you all the

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Speaker 1: mechanics are inexpensive, they're priceless. Let's see you