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Speaker 2: on the East Coast. It is time to spring ahead,

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Speaker 2: and spring it ahead right now, My guy, Bucky Brooks, Hello, Buck,

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Speaker 2: how are you?

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Speaker 3: I'm good Andy?

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Speaker 2: What's gonna Everything is good? And I want to tell

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Speaker 2: you right here and now I owe you an apology.

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Speaker 3: I do.

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Speaker 2: I owe you an apology because all these weeks and

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Speaker 2: months that we've been together, I've never really thought about

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Speaker 2: asking you some personal things that have been on my mind?

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Speaker 2: So can I do that now? And I apologize because

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Speaker 2: I want to know a little bit more about you?

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Speaker 2: Is that okay?

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Speaker 3: All right?

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Speaker 2: Okay, it's not it's not serious. It's not that deep

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Speaker 2: because I'm not that smart. You know, I just wanted

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Speaker 2: to know. As a professional athlete, and you played in

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Speaker 2: the NFL for what half dozen years or so, and

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Speaker 2: now you're still working in sports, when did you realize, Like,

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Speaker 2: was it junior high school, high school that you were

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Speaker 2: head and shoulders as an athlete above others and you

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Speaker 2: were going to maybe look at a professional career.

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Speaker 4: It wasn't then, It brotherly wasn't until college. I was

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Speaker 4: a late bloomer. I would say, Uh, there are always

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Speaker 4: people around me that were more talented. I would say,

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Speaker 4: things just kind of fell into place.

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Speaker 2: So is it possible that I might too be a

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Speaker 2: late bloomer. There's a chance that I could still play

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Speaker 2: at the professional level because I could be a late

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Speaker 2: bloomer like you were.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you could be, you might be, you might be,

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Speaker 4: you might be late in the game, just kind of

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Speaker 2: Right, That's all I need. I wanted to know, because

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Speaker 2: you know, it's funny because in my high school I

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Speaker 2: didn't see anybody that was kind of looking at a

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Speaker 2: professional career. And I know good athletes, and our high

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Speaker 2: school basketball team really did well, and I was a

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Speaker 2: some of them did play college, but not real major college.

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Speaker 2: So you know, I just wanted to know what it

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Speaker 2: to make it one day, you know, but.

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Speaker 4: That's yeah, no, I mean I look at I had

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Speaker 3: It was a pipe dream. It was fantasyland. And then

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Speaker 2: What was the recruiting process like and how many schools

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Speaker 3: A recruiting process for me was more local. Back then.

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Speaker 3: Everything was in North Carolina, South Carolina.

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Speaker 4: North Carolina was the best option because that's where I

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Speaker 2: There you go. I knew what it did. I just

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Speaker 2: wanted to know that and thank you so very much. Now,

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Speaker 2: you know, in the world of life, in the world

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Speaker 2: The Seahawks have traded the veteran quarterback Gino Smith to

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Speaker 2: he's familiar with him, and Gino Smith is there. I

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Speaker 4: Like the thing about it is, when you jump starting

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Speaker 2: You know, it's funny because you love to see a

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Speaker 2: But the good news is that's for the Las Vegas.

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Speaker 4: And I think what is Seattle Seahawks are trying to

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Speaker 2: You know, I would say this as far as the

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Speaker 2: And I'll tell you why I figured this out, not

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Speaker 2: he's could coach two at most maybe three more years.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. He's not looking for a long term rebuild.

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Speaker 2: It makes sense for him to go out right now,

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I mean, look, he definitely is on a shorter timeline

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Speaker 4: But I need to hurry up quickly to get back

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Speaker 2: Well, let's say, let's answer this question right now. So

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Speaker 2: the possibility Sam Donald free agent. Kirk Cousin is not

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Speaker 3: One would be Sam Donald.

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Speaker 4: Being on the market is the opportunity for all the

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Speaker 4: I told you so. It just had to be the

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Speaker 3: In that area. He's already in that area.

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Speaker 2: So so obvious that we just passed over Sam Howell.

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Speaker 3: Maybe? They like, that's the decision that you have to make.

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Speaker 4: If you're a team that likes to play with under sounds,

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Speaker 4: People like, how do you figure it out? How do you?

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Speaker 4: You know, said the rebuilding process off, like, and what

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Speaker 4: he's around. He's gonna have an opportunity.

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Speaker 3: He just may have to wait a little longer than

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Speaker 2: Well, here's a deal, because you know, you know talent

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Speaker 2: There's two quarterbacks right now, schaeduur Colorado and Cam Ward

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Speaker 2: Seattle has the eighteenth pick in the draft. But you

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Speaker 2: do know football players on the college level, and there's

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Speaker 2: one point in time. The third rank quarterback prospect is

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Speaker 2: Is he a possibility maybe go to Seattle?

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Speaker 4: He has the talent, the intangibles, the pedigree, all those

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Speaker 4: it's consistency and can he consistently do it time and

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Speaker 4: time again from the fact that is to me, No.

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Speaker 3: Of course.

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Speaker 2: Yes. It's funny though, because when Pete Carroll had his

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Speaker 2: That creates culture. I don't see players all the time

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Speaker 2: The coach doesn't do it, the players do it the.

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Speaker 4: Coach kind of that's what the standards and the expectations are.

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Speaker 4: Miles Garrett elected to sign that contract years ago, and

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Speaker 3: Now he wants out, he liked, he wants a new deal.

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Speaker 3: The team is like, Noah, no, no, no, we can't

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Speaker 4: I appreciate them holding firm because what happens when you

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Speaker 3: And they want this and they want that.

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Speaker 4: And I will tell you that the best teams don't

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Speaker 2: You know what, though, I'm going to say that I

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Speaker 4: Well, if Marvis Garrett wants that, he can have them

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Speaker 4: But you can't always seek to be the highest paid

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Speaker 4: Like they're not asking for crazy stuff, but he is

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Speaker 4: He doesn't have the power to force his way out.

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Speaker 4: If he does sit out, it's cool. His contract just

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Speaker 4: But you always keep the team in mind. Is this

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Speaker 2: You know what. I hear what you're saying, and I

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Speaker 2: You want to leave that, you know you can, You

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Speaker 2: not now. I don't get it. I mean, unless he

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Speaker 2: Maybe that's what he's doing. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: live for the Tirak dot com studios. Now, another situation

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Speaker 2: similar to Miles Garren Bucky Brooks is the situation in

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Speaker 2: Seattle with wide out dk Metcalf General John Schneider said

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Speaker 2: just the other day there's no guarantee that Metcalf will

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Speaker 2: get dealt. But Metcalf right now, he wants more than

447
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Speaker 2: eighteen million dollars left on that deal. One season left

448
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Speaker 2: with eighteen million there, it's all about money. And I'll

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Speaker 2: tell you what, have you ever seen such movement like

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Speaker 2: this in the National Football League? I think that people

451
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Speaker 2: want to get to that cap space and they got

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Speaker 2: to get to it by Wednesday, March twelfth, because that's

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Speaker 2: when the new season starts. And to get that cap

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Speaker 2: space settled with the National Football League, they're cutting some

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Speaker 2: of these big time veterans or trading him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: No, I mean, I think they're a few different things.

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Speaker 4: Instead of thinking about these three year plans that general

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Speaker 4: managers used to operate on. Everybody's on a year to

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Speaker 4: year basis, they're trying to put together whatever team they

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Speaker 4: can sim well to be great this year. Then they

462
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Speaker 4: make decisions, hard decisions the following years with DK Metcalf.

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Speaker 4: DK Metcalf has been the league for a long time.

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Speaker 4: He's never had a season under nine hundred yards. He

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Speaker 4: has been a big play threat for a long time

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Speaker 4: for the Seattle Seahawks. The problem that you have is

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Speaker 4: you have someone who is still trying to control their

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Speaker 4: emotions and as the face of the franchise. Do you

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Speaker 4: trust that he is going to be able to do that?

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Speaker 4: I would say based on how he's performed, No, I

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Speaker 4: can't trust it.

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Speaker 3: So that's what it is. You're trying to make these decisions.

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Speaker 4: You're trying to make calculated our risks, all which players

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Speaker 4: you can. It's end big money too, and notice you're

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Speaker 4: going to get the same kind of performance and production.

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Speaker 3: That you received.

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Speaker 2: Well. The Dk Metcalf situation is very similar to what

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Speaker 2: we discussed with the Miles Garratt because basically DK Metcalf

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Speaker 2: has a contract and he wants a contract extension. All right,

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Speaker 2: He's only twenty seven years old, so we'll see what happens.

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Speaker 2: I got to believe that he'll probably be traded with

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Speaker 2: Tyler Lockhart. He's a legend. He's gone in Seattle, So

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Speaker 2: Metcalf at twenty seven, he's going to be on that

484
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Speaker 2: market and I think people want him. But another shock

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Speaker 2: where I thought was Joey Bosa. The charges let Joey

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Speaker 2: Bosa go. Oh here, one of the best I guess

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Speaker 2: careers thus far. I guess he had in nine seasons

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Speaker 2: out with the charges seventy two sacks, five pro balls.

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Speaker 2: But look, they got to save money for that cap space.

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Speaker 2: They saved over twenty five million dollars by releasing Joey Bosa.

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Speaker 2: How surprised were you when he was gone?

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Speaker 4: He's been often injured, off hurt. Production is not the same,

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Speaker 4: not the same player. And what I can appreciate about

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Speaker 4: some of these general managers, they are able to emotionally

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Speaker 4: detach from the player and the player that they might

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Speaker 4: have loved when he was younger to being able to

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Speaker 4: make shrewd decisions as a team builder now that they're older.

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Speaker 4: Joey Bosa was not worth the money that they were

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Speaker 4: going to have to pay him. It made sense for

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Speaker 4: them to depart right now. And look, some team can

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Speaker 4: try and take a chance on him in those things,

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Speaker 4: but I wouldn't worry about that. If I'm able to

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Speaker 4: get the right kind of conversation in return, I'm cool

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Speaker 4: with him wan somewhere else in play.

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Speaker 2: And look, it's all about that salary cap deal because

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Speaker 2: he was due a bonus of like twelve million plus.

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Speaker 2: LA made the move. They saved almost twenty six million

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Speaker 2: dollars to us that salary cap and as you remember,

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Speaker 2: I remember this, he was like the number three pick

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Speaker 2: overall in the draft back on twenty sixteen, had five

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Speaker 2: plus sacks and eight of his nine years with the Chargers. Again,

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Speaker 2: he's only twenty nine. As you say he's injured, someone

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Speaker 2: will get him. He'll be He'll be playing in the

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Speaker 2: National Football League next year. So seventy two career sacks. Second,

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Speaker 2: the franchise history behind you know who it is is it?

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Speaker 2: Tell me, I'll give you his initials l O apostrophe.

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Speaker 4: Leslie O'Neill, but Leslie O'Neill for these Chargers, who also

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Speaker 4: was my teammate with the Kansas City Chiefs.

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Speaker 3: That is interesting.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, no, Look, Bosa had some good years, had a

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Speaker 4: good run with the Chargers. But as we're learning the

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Speaker 4: days of just thinking that one your player's gonna be

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Speaker 4: your favorite player is gonna play with the same franchise

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Speaker 4: forever and ever.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're beyond that.

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Speaker 4: Like people are willing to move off from these guys

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Speaker 4: as they're trying to stay compar in an ever changing landscape.

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Speaker 2: You know, this is going to be a foolish statement,

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Speaker 2: but I've said many statements that are foolish, and there'll

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Speaker 2: be some more down the road. I think that hurts

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Speaker 2: the game when players and it's I think it's certainly

532
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Speaker 2: hurt baseball. I hope it doesn't hurt football. I think

533
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,920
Speaker 2: football may be too strong. But I think when players

534
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Speaker 2: are not remaining with the team that the fans, it

535
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Speaker 2: hurts the fans, that there's somewhat loyalty factor or whatever

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Speaker 2: it may be. I think fans are basically stupid. They

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Speaker 2: really are. They'll come when the team wins. When the

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Speaker 2: team loses, they stay away. They go crazy. They take losses,

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Speaker 2: maybe harder than even some players take losses. They really do.

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Speaker 2: I've seen it. You know, they get depressed. They don't

541
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Speaker 2: got to work the next day if a team loses.

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Speaker 2: But they kind of realize, as you just said, early on,

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Speaker 2: it's a business. You got to do it's best for

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Speaker 2: yourself and your family. And they do that. But if

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Speaker 2: a player picks up and goes from teammate to team B,

546
00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:57,080
Speaker 2: the fans will say, wait, I thought he loved I

547
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Speaker 2: thought he loved the charges. I thought this guy loved

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Speaker 2: the Browns. Oh, it's not that they love the paycheck.

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00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,480
Speaker 2: They love to play the game, but they love the paycheck.

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Speaker 2: That's what it's all about, don't you agree.

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Speaker 4: I mean, look, his business is money. So I do

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00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 4: love the team, but I love money more than I

553
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Speaker 4: love the team. But the NFL has done has been great.

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00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 4: They have sold us on the team. The team is

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Speaker 4: everything in pro sports.

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Speaker 3: They made it where it's bigger than whatever, and so

557
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 3: all the fans of football far more buying to the team.

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Speaker 4: First mentality than the mentality of like, hey, I gotta

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Speaker 4: get mine and not worried about anybody else. Is that

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Speaker 4: it's the fallicy of the fairy tale that we've believed

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Speaker 4: in that changes the way that we want everyone to

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Speaker 4: perceive the process.

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Speaker 2: I will tell you this much. There's one player who

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Speaker 2: I really believe that loved the team. He retired this

565
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:57,600
Speaker 2: week in Cincinnati, the defensive end Sam Hubbard. He grew

566
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Speaker 2: up here in Cincinnati, he played for More high school,

567
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:02,680
Speaker 2: stayed locally. He said he loved the Bengals and he

568
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:04,200
Speaker 2: was hurt last year. I mean, he was a heck

569
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 2: of a player, heck of a guy, good man, and

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Speaker 2: he played seven years for the Bengals. He said he

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Speaker 2: was a Bengal full life. And I think that the

572
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Speaker 2: Bengals could have released him, he could have been picked up.

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Speaker 3: He quit.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he just retired. I believe in his heart

575
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Speaker 2: of hearts, he loved Cincinnati, he loved the Cincinnati Bengals,

576
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,359
Speaker 2: he got his money. Seven years in the league. He

577
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 2: was hurt, doesn't want to be injured anymore, so he

578
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Speaker 2: just said, forget it, I'm retiring. I think he's one

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Speaker 2: of the few. I really believe that. I thought I

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Speaker 2: loved Sam Hubbard. I think he's one of the strange, strange,

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Speaker 2: different type of players. And in sports today you don't

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Speaker 2: see many Sam Hubbards.

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Speaker 3: No a great player.

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Speaker 4: I remember tracking him promise time throughout you know, Kevin

585
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,680
Speaker 4: of the ranks, Ohio State. The other thing that you're

586
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,880
Speaker 4: seeing guys like Sam Hubbard. They're making so much money

587
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,880
Speaker 4: now in today's NFL, guys are getting out as soon

588
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 4: as possible.

589
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:52,440
Speaker 3: Five years, seven.

590
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,920
Speaker 4: Years what used to be deemed a very short career.

591
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,399
Speaker 4: Some guys saying, yeah, I'm good, this is all I need.

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00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:00,480
Speaker 4: I don't need all the other stuff to us down

593
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,399
Speaker 4: the pipe. If I can get to that second contract

594
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,440
Speaker 4: and put pen to paper, I'm good.

595
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:08,399
Speaker 3: I've made it.

596
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 4: I'm okay with everything else. Beyond that, and there's a

597
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 4: lot of people who have peace in these situations.

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Speaker 2: Like that, right and I'll go one step for Let's

599
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,120
Speaker 2: talk about the Cincinnati Bengals for a second, because Duke

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Speaker 2: Toburn has done a great job. You know why he's

601
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 2: done a great job, not so much hiring and firing

602
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:29,119
Speaker 2: and getting personnel. He's the personnel guy. He has taken

603
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 2: over and save Mike Brown and Mike Brown the owner, general, manager, president,

604
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 2: whatever you want to be. He used to be the

605
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 2: fall guy. The fans go nuts on Mike Brown, calling

606
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 2: him cheap doing this, putting that Mike Brown stays out

607
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 2: of the public eye right now. I understand he's eighty

608
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 2: plus years old and that's okay, but I've seen him around,

609
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 2: but he doesn't do any talking to the media anymore.

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00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 2: He shoves Duke Tobin out there, and Duke Tobin's the

611
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 2: guy that gets all the heat. So Duke Tobin right now,

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Speaker 2: I guess it was during the Indianapolis deal and they

613
00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 2: had the workouts. I think he says something to the

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00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 2: fact that we're looking to sign t Higgins for a

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Speaker 2: long term deal, and I said, we see better than

616
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 2: we hear, because right now, it looks like T. Higgins

617
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 2: is going to be tagged with the franchise tag for

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00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 2: the second year in a row. Look, the Bengals have

619
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Speaker 2: it until what July fifteenth to come to terms with

620
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Speaker 2: Higgins on a long term contract or he's going to

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Speaker 2: get that tag of like twenty six mil for the

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty five season. I get it. I understand that.

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Speaker 2: But you say one thing is I say I see

624
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 2: better than I hear. You know you gotta hire, you

625
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 2: gotta sign T. Higgins, And you say you're going to

626
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 2: sign T Higgins. That's the deal. What's happening now with Cincinnati?

627
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 2: Can they in fact sign Higgins? Can they sign Jamar Chase?

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Speaker 2: Can they do that? And also now Trey Hendrickson? I mean,

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Speaker 2: is there enough money there? I think there is. I

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Speaker 2: mean can they get it done?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: It'll be interesting because T Higgins keeping him on the

633
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 4: franchise tag smart move by the beingles.

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00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 3: You want to keep this offense and tag.

635
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 4: What it does, It gives you more time negotiate with him.

636
00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 4: If you can't get those negotiations, then you know what

637
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 4: you least four year and you can plan accordingly with

638
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 4: some of these other situations. Look, It's about understanding where

639
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 4: the player is and his career, what you potentially can

640
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 4: get back, and is it a better deal if you

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Speaker 4: if you made it to me right now, all things equal, Look,

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00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 4: I think you stayed a course. You stayed a course

643
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 4: With your best players. They can bitch and moan, but

644
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 4: they don't have any power to do anything. So all

645
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 4: it is is bitching and moaning into the ether lock

646
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 4: in building team.

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00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 2: Stay with it that way, Okay, you could help me

648
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 2: out because you have the athlete's mentality. You're an athlete.

649
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 2: I mean you played the game twenty six million dollars.

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Speaker 2: I mean he's not going to be hurting for his

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Speaker 2: next meal, there's no doubt about that. Is it an

652
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Speaker 2: ego thing or is it the fact that I want

653
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Speaker 2: more money because I guess he looks around justin Jefferson's

654
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Speaker 2: making more money than him. He I guess you could

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Speaker 2: say T Higgins right now is the best number two

656
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Speaker 2: receiver in the National Football League and some teams have

657
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Speaker 2: inquired to the Bengals already for his services. But is

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Speaker 2: it the money? Is it the ego or is it

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Speaker 2: the fact that this guy is getting this amount? I

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Speaker 2: want his money. I want more than him. It can't

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Speaker 2: be the need for money. It's got to be the

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Speaker 2: ego for money.

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Speaker 4: Well, we don't know what any money situation is. But

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Speaker 4: people show you how much they respect you by how

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Speaker 4: much they're willing to pay you. And if they don't

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Speaker 4: want to come up and pay him top dollar money,

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Speaker 4: then he probably feels like they don't respect him as

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Speaker 4: a player.

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Speaker 3: Why would I want to continue to be here?

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Speaker 4: The players are trying to get I mean, ownership is

671
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Speaker 4: trying to get the players at the best possible cost.

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Speaker 4: And there's a budget because they're looking at the mac review,

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Speaker 4: the entire piece and the postle like, how can we

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Speaker 4: make sure this works and this continues to work while

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Speaker 4: we're doing all these other things that we're doing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a happy.

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Speaker 4: Medium in there, but you got to kind of push

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Speaker 4: the line total envelope, be willing to do that. And

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Speaker 4: Higgins has shown some of that. But when we get

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Speaker 4: to the regular season, we'll these show all of that.

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Speaker 2: You know, I will say this and maybe I'm out

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Speaker 2: of my mind. Here you got Hendrickson, Higgins, and Jamar

683
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Speaker 2: Chase plus Burrow Joe Burrow the quarterback. Three all star players,

684
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Speaker 2: no doubt in my mind, however, it's an embarrassment that

685
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Speaker 2: three All stars and needn't make the playoffs. So to me,

686
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Speaker 2: maybe on way off base, I mean, if T Higgins

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Speaker 2: is flap with the franchise tag, or if the Bengals

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Speaker 2: even trade him, I mean your problem there in Cincinnati

689
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Speaker 2: is defense. If you could get maybe two first round

690
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Speaker 2: picks for T. Higgins, you might be able to or

691
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Speaker 2: maybe two second rounders to bolt up that defense. Don't

692
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Speaker 2: you think that's more important? Because I think as Almo

693
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Speaker 2: as you have, Joe Burrow, the quarterback of my mind,

694
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Speaker 2: can make the receiver, the receivers are a diamond. Doesn't

695
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Speaker 2: get him in there. You're still gonna get Jamar Chase.

696
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Speaker 2: They're gonna sign him. So you get two defensive players

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Speaker 2: in there to help your defense, which was terrible, couldn't

698
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Speaker 2: stop the run, and let T Higgins go, life will

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Speaker 2: go on. I think it may be better served.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, No, I mean I think there's a there's a

701
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Speaker 4: there's a plan that you can you know, map out

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Speaker 4: with T Higgins, Jamar Chase, Joe Burrow commanding all the

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Speaker 4: dollars and your team still continue to play it up.

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Speaker 4: You know, a playoff caliber it's gonna take you nailing

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Speaker 4: the draft with all the cheap labor that's available to

706
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Speaker 4: owners when the first year guys come in. And then

707
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Speaker 4: there's some other things that I would say have been

708
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Speaker 4: attributed to this situation that has made it kind of challenging.

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Speaker 4: Some of the commentary that exists typically in contract swabbles

710
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Speaker 4: can impact the player, and I think what you're seeing

711
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Speaker 4: is a player Jamal Chase who's like, look, you can

712
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Speaker 4: have to pay me more than my guy if he's

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Speaker 4: considered the top, I'm better because I just want to

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Speaker 4: trouble ground. Then you have someone else coming in to

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Speaker 4: his own being a key contributor. You know that although

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Speaker 4: those things tend to add up, and I would believe

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Speaker 4: it that if you're great on one side of the ball.

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Speaker 3: That always gives your chance.

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Speaker 4: They are great offensively with the weapons that they have

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Speaker 4: in place, with especially with tu.

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Speaker 3: You know T Higgins coming back.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean it is somewhat of an embarrassment.

723
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Speaker 2: I think with Higgins, Chase Burrow and then Hendrickson on defense,

724
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Speaker 2: I mean that they didn't make the playoffs. Something's wrong.

725
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Speaker 2: I mean, I gotta there's something.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the division is tougher.

727
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Speaker 4: They gotta find a way to start faster because they're

728
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Speaker 4: always loosing out the gate behind the eight ball. And

729
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Speaker 4: this team shows a team that look they get better

730
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Speaker 4: over the course of the season, but they are slow starters.

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Speaker 3: They gotta get them going right away.

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Speaker 2: All right, we'll get to get going too. He's Bucky

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Speaker 2: Brooks and Andy Firman. We have Fox Sports Sunday of Fox.

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Speaker 2: All right, it's Bucky right around the corner, about eleven minutes,

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Speaker 2: not before the top of the hour. That would be

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Speaker 2: seven a m. On the East Coast. Yes, spring ahead

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Speaker 2: Now here we go talking about the Cincinnati Bengals. Okay,

745
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Speaker 2: is it better trading rusher Trey Hendrickson for maybe two

746
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Speaker 2: possible first rounders if he could command that or sign

747
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Speaker 2: him as he turns thirty one next year, because you

748
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Speaker 2: remember the success of the New England Patriots always trading

749
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Speaker 2: or dumping off guys when they kind of reached their

750
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Speaker 2: peak and didn't want to make them too old. That's

751
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Speaker 2: what they did, and maybe the Bengals should do that

752
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Speaker 2: with Trey Hendrickson.

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Speaker 4: Look at I think with Terry Henderson likes it's too

754
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 4: far gone, like no love lost between the two parties.

755
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Speaker 4: You hit a situation where like he's the leading sack artist,

756
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Speaker 4: but they don't want to go that high and pay

757
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Speaker 4: and you have to make don't want to be good

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Speaker 4: offense good defense. I think they would rather put all

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Speaker 4: that money on the offensive bucket and see if they

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Speaker 4: can draft and replace Trey Henderson some of those guys.

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Speaker 2: I did some research on Trey Hendrickson. Okay, he had

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00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 2: seventeen and a half sacks this year. However, and I'm

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Speaker 2: sure everybody in the National Football League who was a

764
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Speaker 2: scout or a personnel guy or GM knows this. Those

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Speaker 2: sacks came in two games. He had four sacks against

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Speaker 2: Vegas three and a half against Pittsburgh, and both those teams,

767
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Speaker 2: as you know, had terrible offensive linemen and they had backups.

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Speaker 2: Trey Hendrickson did not recorded sack in two games against

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Speaker 2: the Ravens. He didn't show up at all against the Eagles,

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Speaker 2: and Eagles had that backup left tackle Fred Johnson in

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Speaker 2: that game. So basically, seventeen and a half sacks, big number,

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Speaker 2: good number, But when it came to against the big boys,

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Speaker 2: he didn't do much. So maybe that's a factor. And

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Speaker 2: thirty one years of age. I don't think I'll love

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Speaker 2: to have a season like that. Again, what do you think?

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Speaker 3: Look, man, he's already had a w of a career.

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Speaker 4: I think the odds are against him continue to be

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Speaker 4: able to sustain his pace. I understand why he wants

779
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Speaker 4: to get paid, but also understand why the Bengals may be.

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Speaker 3: Willing to move on when you look at the bigger

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Speaker 3: picture as they've building it.

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Speaker 2: There you go, Okay, who gets to sign a contract

783
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Speaker 2: first at quarterback this year? Your choice? Russell Wilson or

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Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 3: Russell Wilson.

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Speaker 4: I would take Russell Wilson over Aaron Rodgers. And the

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Speaker 4: only reason I would say is like down the last

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Speaker 4: alfter the year, Russell Wilson played better than Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers had a moment or two but he didn't

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Speaker 4: play well, and as a forty plus year old quarterback,

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Speaker 4: I think you're more likely to have more flops from

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Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 3: In good days. Yeah, I will go at Russell Wilson.

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Speaker 1: This all right.

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Speaker 2: I got a situation here that kind of bugs me.

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Speaker 2: They got a guy at the University of Cincinnati, West Miller,

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Speaker 2: first year basketball coaches this year number four, now four

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Speaker 2: years they did not get into the NCAA teram I

799
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Speaker 2: gotta believe they're not going to go. They lost to

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Speaker 2: Oklahoma State yesterday one of the reasons, and the athletic

801
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Speaker 2: director said the other day that he's going to be

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00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 2: back next year. Normally that would not happen four years

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Speaker 2: in the school that really has been known for their

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Speaker 2: tough and good basketball teams coached by Bob Huggins and

805
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Speaker 2: Mitt Cronin. You know, normally he'll be gone. So I

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Speaker 2: got to ask you your thoughts on college coaches and

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Speaker 2: their buyout clause, because I gotta believe West Miller is

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Speaker 2: going to be back next year because of the buyout clause.

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Speaker 4: I mean, look, that's part of what agents do. They

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Speaker 4: make it very difficult for teams to move on from you.

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Speaker 3: For me.

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Speaker 4: The west millerary situation is interesting because down in North Carolina,

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Speaker 4: people are not happy with Hubert Davis. West Miller was

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Speaker 4: one of the candidates. There's a faction on the fan

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Speaker 4: base that still.

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Speaker 3: Wants Wes Miller to be the coach.

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Speaker 4: So the hero Wes Miller and his struggles in Cincinnati

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Speaker 4: also shits like on how hard the job is to

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Speaker 4: be successful And I can't even say turning around a program,

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Speaker 4: but sustaining a program. Yeah, the bio is a significant deal.

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Speaker 4: That's why agents fight tooth and nail to get that

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Speaker 4: into that contract.

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Speaker 2: You know. Let me kind of expand on that for

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Speaker 2: a second, because if you're a college basketball coach, I

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Speaker 2: would think right now you're not that much concerned which

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Speaker 2: contract and money, although that's a priority, and what conference

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Speaker 2: you may be in. I think you may want to

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Speaker 2: concern yourself as to what city you may be in.

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Speaker 2: With the Alumbs, for example, in Cincinnati, you have to

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Speaker 2: compete with another D one school at Xavier, another D

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Speaker 2: one school at Northern Kentucky, a pro team with the

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Speaker 2: Bengals Pro team with FS Cincinnati, i f C Cincinnati,

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Speaker 2: and of course the Red Cincinnati Reds. So my question

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Speaker 2: is this. You go to a smaller market which everything

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Speaker 2: is involving the college team. Columbus, Ohio, Ohio State, Still Water, Oklahoma, Norman, Oklahoma.

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Speaker 2: These cities are just crave the college team, and there's

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Speaker 2: more monies for the nil for these kids. Where in Cincinnati,

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Speaker 2: I don't think there's a lot of money. So if

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Speaker 2: a coach comes here, he knows he's going to be

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Speaker 2: behind the eight ball a little bit.

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Speaker 4: He's going to be behind a ball a little bit.

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Speaker 4: But look, they're being able to do it before. They

843
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Speaker 4: just got to figure out the new recipe for being

844
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Speaker 4: able to get it done with the Bearcats.

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Speaker 2: It's tough. I mean, you got to really go to

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Speaker 2: these alumps and say please open the check book, and

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Speaker 2: you got you gotta be a fan. You gotta be

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Speaker 2: a nut job fan to do that. But they do it.

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Speaker 2: Then they do it other cities. I've seen that. So

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Speaker 2: what are you gonna do? All Right, we got two

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Speaker 2: big hours to go. We want to remind you that

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Speaker 2: the clock has been moved to bring ahead. He's Bucky

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Speaker 2: Brooks and Andy Furman and these free agents may fall

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865
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Speaker 4: I mean looks it's crazy on the West coast because

866
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 4: this is two o'clock wake up time.

867
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 3: But it's all good. We're doing it.

868
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 2: You sound the good? You sounding good? No problem? They

869
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 2: all right? Now Wednesday? Wednesday is the big day, Wednesday,

870
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:14,320
Speaker 2: March twelfth, that's when the NFL season starts. How crazy

871
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 2: is that? Because you know, everybody's into the free agent market,

872
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:19,920
Speaker 2: and mean free agency is going to help teams, you know,

873
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:23,440
Speaker 2: with their needs. Maybe it's perhaps even better than the

874
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:26,839
Speaker 2: draft because it's a proven commodity. But how does it work?

875
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 2: I mean, do what general managers and personnel guys say

876
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 2: we need a quarterback. Should we go to the draft,

877
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 2: should we take a chance and develop a guy, or

878
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:39,359
Speaker 2: should we go right now for approven veteran? But it's

879
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 2: gonna be more money. How does it work in free agency?

880
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 4: So with all things like free agency in the draft,

881
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 4: they work hand in hand. When you're at the top

882
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 4: of the food chain, top of the decision making process,

883
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 4: you have your scouts, your college director, your pro directors

884
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 4: be able to talk about what are the strengths of

885
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:02,880
Speaker 4: free agency, what positions are have the depth and the

886
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 4: talent where we deem positions of need. Okay, then we

887
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 4: go to the draft, Yes to collus directed, what positions,

888
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 4: what are the strong points and weak points of the draft?

889
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:16,400
Speaker 4: How deep at it at certain positions? Where do our

890
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:20,360
Speaker 4: needs fall in line with that? Sometimes, whereas weak in

891
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 4: the draft, you say, oh, that's great, we'll just take

892
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 4: care of it in free agency so we don't have

893
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 4: to worry about it when it comes to the draft.

894
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:29,439
Speaker 4: Sometimes in free agency you can't find the right fit

895
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 4: at the right number, and you say, hey, we'll address

896
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:36,360
Speaker 4: it in the draft. These vehicles work together in the

897
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 4: team building process, and the great team builders the great

898
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 4: general managers and executives. They understand the strengths of both

899
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 4: markets free agency and the draft, and they will attack

900
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 4: it accordingly based on what the talent is in each situation.

901
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 2: Okay, so you did a list at NFL dot com,

902
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 2: maybe the most underrated free So what does that mean

903
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:06,239
Speaker 2: under a talent wise or good bargains? And you say, look,

904
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 2: I don't think anybody's on the radar. I think every

905
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 2: scout out there knows who's available. So what does that

906
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:12,919
Speaker 2: actually mean? Underrated?

907
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 4: So underrated are guys that are not household names, but

908
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 4: guys that can come in and maybe modest value contracts

909
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 4: and you know, provide you more bang for the bug.

910
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:26,880
Speaker 4: So think Andrew Van Ginkel, who was a look a

911
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:31,359
Speaker 4: stat stuffer for the Minnesota Vikings, thing Zach Bond, all

912
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:34,360
Speaker 4: pro player for the Philadelphia Eagles. Both were lightly regarded

913
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 4: during the process, but they paid huge dividends. This list

914
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 4: features a a collection of guys who could offer similar

915
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 4: contributions at modest prices.

916
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:49,840
Speaker 2: All right, So now we go with the quarterback situation,

917
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,759
Speaker 2: and you say that Justin Fields kind of tops the

918
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:56,400
Speaker 2: quarterback list as far as guys that may be underrated

919
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:58,840
Speaker 2: or maybe not appreciated. I don't know what may be,

920
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,840
Speaker 2: but it's hard to believe what's happening there in Pittsburgh.

921
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 2: I'm amazed they even made the playoffs. They finished what

922
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:07,840
Speaker 2: ten and seven last year and they made the playoffs.

923
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 2: They got bounced out with Baltimore. However, I mean, you

924
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:14,880
Speaker 2: got quarterbacks Justin Fields and then you got the Russell

925
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:18,239
Speaker 2: Wilson and it looks like the rumors say that neither

926
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:19,920
Speaker 2: one of them is going to be back next year,

927
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:24,440
Speaker 2: although it looks like maybe Russell Wilson has the stronger

928
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:29,319
Speaker 2: possibility of returning. What's happening in Pittsburgh And where would

929
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 2: they go if they lose both?

930
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, No, there's some talk on the buzz is if

931
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 4: they don't retain Justin Fields or Russell Wilson, Like, hey,

932
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 4: look for Sam Darnold to be in play, look for

933
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:48,360
Speaker 4: Daniel Jones to potentially be in play, just because you

934
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 4: got to have a starting quarterback to be able to

935
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:50,799
Speaker 4: play in this league.

936
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:51,880
Speaker 3: We saw with the move that.

937
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 4: The Raid has made to secure Geno Smith. That's what

938
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 4: they tell you that is out there in the marketplace.

939
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 4: Sam Donald could get big bucks, but from Pittsburgh, they

940
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 4: gotta find the right fit. And if they didn't think

941
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:06,360
Speaker 4: that Justin Fields could get it done as a passer,

942
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 4: that's why they moved on from him, despite his running

943
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:11,760
Speaker 4: talents and the way that the Steelers were winning.

944
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:13,320
Speaker 3: That's all you need to know.

945
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 4: They want to get better and they don't believe that

946
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:17,400
Speaker 4: better is in their room, so that's why they're looking elsewhere.

947
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 2: Well. I gotta believe money is a factor too, because

948
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:21,839
Speaker 2: I think they didn't want to pay these guys big

949
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 2: money either one of them, Russell Wilson with his age

950
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 2: and Justin Fields right now with his inexperience and really

951
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 2: he didn't dominate. So you're not going to give these

952
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 2: guys a a lot of money and be a long

953
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:33,319
Speaker 2: term deal because I don't think either one of them

954
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 2: is going to lead you to the super Bowl. So

955
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 2: I think that's the problem that that's why they may

956
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:39,400
Speaker 2: dump both of these guys. But I will say this

957
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 2: first six games of the year, Justin Fields was quarterback

958
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 2: and he led the Steelers to a four and two record.

959
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 2: All Right, he was going to start for the Steelers

960
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:50,880
Speaker 2: in Week one, but he gave he had that CAF injury.

961
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 2: Wilson and Fields got the job. So you look at

962
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:59,359
Speaker 2: the comparison between the two. It's difficult, but look, Justin

963
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 2: Fields last year completed with almost sixty six percent of

964
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:06,400
Speaker 2: his passes, Russell Wilson sixty three percent. But it's difficult

965
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 2: to compare them because they didn't play the same amount

966
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 2: of games. But it was Fields with five touchdowns and

967
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:15,319
Speaker 2: Wilson had sixteen. But he had five iNTS, Fields had one.

968
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 2: I int I think that Justin Fields is a better runner.

969
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 2: He could do that. I think at one time Russell

970
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 2: Wilson was, but I think he's been banged up at

971
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:25,360
Speaker 2: age is a factor. He doesn't run as well or

972
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:27,360
Speaker 2: as much as he did in the past years. He

973
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:30,279
Speaker 2: fumbled five times and Fields fumbled six times. I don't know.

974
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 2: I mean the average twenty two almost twenty three points

975
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:36,799
Speaker 2: a game last year, sixteenth in the league. Not really good.

976
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 2: But I don't know where you go with either one

977
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:39,880
Speaker 2: of these quarterbacks.

978
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:43,360
Speaker 4: Look, man, you got to play with somebody, and you

979
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 4: don't have many options. You don't have many options available

980
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 4: in the draft. I did a list of, you know,

981
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:52,360
Speaker 4: quarterbacks outside of cam Ward and Shade at Sanders for Fox.

982
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 4: That is up and people can check that on on

983
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 4: Fox sports dot Com. And you know, you look at

984
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:59,240
Speaker 4: free agency and I looked at not a lot of options.

985
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 4: The reason justin field his apros commodity is his age.

986
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 3: He's mid twenties.

987
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 4: He's played significant snaps in the league he started, He's

988
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 4: flashed the talent, but he hasn't been able to string

989
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:11,440
Speaker 4: it together. More likely to bank on him being who

990
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:14,439
Speaker 4: he is and working around some of those issues then

991
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:16,400
Speaker 4: completely swinging the miss on a guy that I know

992
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:18,839
Speaker 4: is being overdrafted in the first round.

993
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 2: Okay, if you look at the stats comparing the two,

994
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 2: and I don't know if that's what they do. Would

995
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:25,959
Speaker 2: would they do that with Mike Tom Let's say, let's

996
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 2: compare their stats. I don't think he would do it.

997
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 2: He'll compare with his eyes. Now with the stats on paper,

998
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 2: I would think, right.

999
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 4: I mean, I think it's a combination. Is not only

1000
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 4: the stats that we talked about on paper, it's the film.

1001
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:42,279
Speaker 4: It's the analytical people coming in projecting where somebody is

1002
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 4: at this age, given the injury history, the way they

1003
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 4: take care of themselves. This is how much more time

1004
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 4: they could have as a peak performer. This is when

1005
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 4: it could fall off The Cliff and then you have

1006
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:54,880
Speaker 4: to make a decision on you know, where is he

1007
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 4: at and the team plans. Do we feel like in

1008
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 4: three four years when we're really good, he's gonna be

1009
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:04,400
Speaker 4: contributed at a high level. Or is it best to

1010
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 4: move on and get a young player ready for that spot.

1011
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:10,719
Speaker 4: All those decisions are you know, independent, There's so many

1012
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 4: different things where people weigh in, but it comes down

1013
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 4: to the leader what they feel best for the team.

1014
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 3: It is. Look, it's not.

1015
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 4: Ideal, but it's it's one of those situations where you

1016
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 4: got to make some hard decisions sometimes.

1017
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 2: I'm trying to do the comparison. I'm trying to help

1018
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:28,959
Speaker 2: Mike Tomlin, all right, because I'm gonna put this to paper.

1019
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 2: Maybe he doesn't even have it. I'm sure he does.

1020
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:34,799
Speaker 2: Wilson Russell. Wilson has the upper hand and the key

1021
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 2: categories like points per game, totally yards and passing yards.

1022
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:43,720
Speaker 2: I would have to admit, though it's a small sample size,

1023
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 2: but the Steelers were not running the ball as effectively

1024
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 2: with Justin Fields at quarterback.

1025
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 3: All right.

1026
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 2: Whatever that means, I don't know. And maybe that's why

1027
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 2: Justin Fields is going to be the guy on another

1028
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:56,279
Speaker 2: team next year.

1029
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 4: I mean they look for reason it wasn't clicking with him.

1030
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:03,839
Speaker 4: Everyone can sit here and see the talent. We can

1031
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 4: sit there and say they should run more, but for

1032
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:08,319
Speaker 4: whatever reason, they weren't scoring enough points. They were barely

1033
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 4: getting to twenty. Mike Tomlin could look and see like, man,

1034
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:13,440
Speaker 4: my team is playing well, but I can't count on

1035
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 4: my defense to hold everyone to under twenty two win games.

1036
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:19,479
Speaker 4: So he opted for the veteran, thinking that Wilson would

1037
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 4: bring stability given his experience and expertise and knowledge. Wasn't

1038
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:28,880
Speaker 4: quite what any of them anticipated. But you know, sometimes

1039
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 4: you gotta roll the dice.

1040
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:34,359
Speaker 2: All right. So you mentioned perhaps that Sam Donald may

1041
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 2: be wearing a Pittsburgh Steel or uniform next year, And

1042
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 2: if you were to take a list of like the

1043
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:42,120
Speaker 2: top free agent quarterbacks, I would have to think that

1044
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 2: Sam Donald is the top of the list. And if

1045
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:49,239
Speaker 2: the season ended after week number seventeen, this guy would

1046
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:51,960
Speaker 2: have made bookou bucks, big time money. He would have

1047
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:55,279
Speaker 2: been a tremendous demand. But as you know, he had

1048
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 2: a tough time struggling those last two games at the

1049
00:49:57,680 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 2: playoff loss, and there was some questions he had about

1050
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:03,920
Speaker 2: maybe he's not as good as we thought he was.

1051
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:05,920
Speaker 2: Maybe he was just on a hot streak. Who knows,

1052
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:09,279
Speaker 2: but I still think that lucky for him, he's still

1053
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 2: the number one quarterback in free agency. Age is a

1054
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 2: key factor right there, and I think that he may

1055
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:17,360
Speaker 2: be gone to another team and maybe with the system

1056
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 2: in Pittsburgh he could be successful. I mean he was

1057
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 2: successful until the playoffs, right.

1058
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, No, he was successful. You want to see him

1059
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 4: step his game up. He wasn't able to do it

1060
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 4: the last two games. And people have to determine was

1061
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 4: that a foreshadowing of what his career could be like

1062
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 4: going forward or was it just a man just had

1063
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:41,320
Speaker 4: a bad game on a big stage. That is for

1064
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:44,600
Speaker 4: team builders to try and figure out. But for us,

1065
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:47,120
Speaker 4: I would say, look, great year. He deserves to be

1066
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:50,720
Speaker 4: paid and rewarded for that. If he goes to Seattle,

1067
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:53,239
Speaker 4: he has a tough situation because they had a really

1068
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 4: good quarterback and All Pro quarterback in Gino Smith that.

1069
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 3: They moved on to bring him in.

1070
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:02,319
Speaker 4: How he handles the locker room, all that it looked

1071
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 4: at that to go a long way and determined whether

1072
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 4: his guys play for him or not.

1073
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 2: Well, look, Sam Donald, as you know was signed to

1074
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 2: a one year deal and until they drafted JJ McCarthy.

1075
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:16,960
Speaker 2: Then McCarthy got hurt that the season ending injury. You

1076
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:20,759
Speaker 2: know this is a risk factor with McCarthy coming back.

1077
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 2: Will he be ready? Right? I mean sometimes it takes

1078
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 2: and you said this to me several times. Sometimes after

1079
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 2: an injury, a serious knee injury or an arm injury,

1080
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:33,799
Speaker 2: the quarterback or any player, it has to take a year.

1081
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:36,400
Speaker 2: And maybe he's more successful that second year. And why

1082
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:38,880
Speaker 2: do I say that, because I'm looking at Aaron Rodgers,

1083
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 2: who may very well be the second best free agent

1084
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 2: quarterback available, not considering a free agent yet. But the

1085
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:48,279
Speaker 2: Jets basically said we don't want you. You're not coming back.

1086
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:50,840
Speaker 2: He's going to be forty two. This year was his

1087
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 2: first year after that big injury. He may be coming

1088
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:56,440
Speaker 2: back stronger next year even though he's forty two, because

1089
00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 2: sometimes it takes longer to heel. We've seen that with

1090
00:51:58,680 --> 00:51:59,360
Speaker 2: injuries like that.

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00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:01,840
Speaker 3: We have seen that.

1092
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:04,920
Speaker 4: We have seen people continue to improve defid the odds,

1093
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 4: that's what we call it. But yeah, we've seen it

1094
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:11,320
Speaker 4: happen before. It is unlikely, but it can't happen Unlike.

1095
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Speaker 2: I would say, he finished. He was pretty good down

1096
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 2: the stretch. He finished the season pretty strong, don't you think,

1097
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers? I mean, could you see him in Pittsburgh?

1098
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:20,279
Speaker 2: Could you see him in the NFL next year?

1099
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:22,880
Speaker 3: I mean, I can see someone taking a chance on him.

1100
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:27,200
Speaker 4: But I look, it's not just the on field performance,

1101
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 4: it's just all the stuff around the team.

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Speaker 3: For me as a coach, I'm not willing to do

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00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:34,160
Speaker 3: that for one.

1104
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 4: Year, Rental and Aaron Rodgers, I would rather have something

1105
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 4: else where I can keep the attention focused on the

1106
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 4: team and not conspiracy theories and vaccinations and all this

1107
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:43,840
Speaker 4: other stuff.

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Speaker 2: I'm with you there. And the third quarterback I think

1109
00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 2: on the free agent list, and again he's not technically

1110
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:51,719
Speaker 2: a free agent, but I know he went out of

1111
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:53,960
Speaker 2: Atlanta with him aout Kirk cussins. He may be the

1112
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:56,719
Speaker 2: best fit at all if he is a free agent

1113
00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:57,960
Speaker 2: going to Pittsburgh, don't you think.

1114
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Speaker 3: I don't know. He didn't very well.

1115
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:04,040
Speaker 4: Like I know, we like to romanticize all these guys

1116
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:06,480
Speaker 4: as if they're still the player that we saw when

1117
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 4: they were the best. But he did not play well.

1118
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 4: He's not played well the last two years. I understand

1119
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 4: the fascination. I understand people want to see him kind

1120
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:16,200
Speaker 4: of do his thing, and you know, I have a

1121
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:21,280
Speaker 4: chance to go out, but I wouldn't go crazy. Aaron Rodgers,

1122
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:23,759
Speaker 4: Russell Wilson, any of those guys like I have to

1123
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:26,040
Speaker 4: make sure that they understand that it's the team first them.

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00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:26,440
Speaker 3: Second.

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Speaker 2: Let me ask you this because you're a scout. You

1126
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:32,360
Speaker 2: played the game, and I look at stats. But you

1127
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:33,960
Speaker 2: know when you look at stats, and I think the

1128
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 2: average Joe who looks at stats, they really don't know

1129
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 2: what they mean. Really. I got these five quarterbacks who

1130
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:42,479
Speaker 2: are technically free agents, and they're available, and obviously people

1131
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 2: in the National Football League are looking to fill the

1132
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 2: void of a quarterback. And the stat columns I have

1133
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:55,399
Speaker 2: are yards passing yards per game, percentage, touchdowns, and quarterback rating.

1134
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:58,960
Speaker 2: Which number do you think stands out the most? Which

1135
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:02,399
Speaker 2: is the most important number for a personnel guy? All right?

1136
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 2: Yards totally yards passing yards for each game, percentage, completion, percentage,

1137
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 2: touchdowns or quarterback rating.

1138
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:14,640
Speaker 4: I would say quarterback rating because quarterback rating comas is

1139
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:18,160
Speaker 4: all of those things at once. Completion rate can you

1140
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:23,680
Speaker 4: manufactured on bubble screens and those things to push it up? Yeah,

1141
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:26,879
Speaker 4: I just think it's the other stuff that I want

1142
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:30,759
Speaker 4: to comprehensive profile because that allows me to make a

1143
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:31,560
Speaker 4: better decision.

1144
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:34,800
Speaker 2: Okay, So basically, if you had to take the quarterback

1145
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:38,839
Speaker 2: rating of these five potential free agents, Sam Donald's number

1146
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:42,400
Speaker 2: one at one O two five, Aaron Rodgers believe in

1147
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:46,319
Speaker 2: its number two at ninety point five, followed by Kurt

1148
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 2: Cousins eighty eight six. No, I actually, followed by Russell

1149
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:54,479
Speaker 2: Wilson ninety five six, then Justin Fields ninety three to three,

1150
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:57,640
Speaker 2: and Kirk Cousins picks up the rear at eighty eight six,

1151
00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 2: which is not a good quarterback rating. Eight six.

1152
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:04,080
Speaker 3: That's not good. That's not great at all. I mean

1153
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:05,920
Speaker 3: that's very, very very average.

1154
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:08,360
Speaker 2: All right, I hear what you're saying. So now I

1155
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:10,719
Speaker 2: learned something again from you. Okay, But is it better

1156
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:14,120
Speaker 2: to draft and take a chance on a drafted quarterback

1157
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:18,800
Speaker 2: or develop this quarterback or have a quarterback out of

1158
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 2: free agency, because look, they could still draft the quarterback

1159
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 2: the Steelers and still sign Aaron Rodgers and the new

1160
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:28,239
Speaker 2: quarterback could stay on the sidelines and learn for a

1161
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:31,239
Speaker 2: year under Aaron Rodgers. Perhaps I don't know.

1162
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:35,520
Speaker 4: I mean, you could, but Aaron Rodgers gonna play nice

1163
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:38,520
Speaker 4: in the sandbox. He didn't do it with Jordan Low

1164
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:41,480
Speaker 4: but you know, be far, I didn't do it with

1165
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:42,040
Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers.

1166
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:42,360
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1167
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:44,600
Speaker 4: I think at some point you want the entire room

1168
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:48,160
Speaker 4: to succeed, and those are the best environments to me.

1169
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:51,279
Speaker 2: All right, let's move to running backs again. We go

1170
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:56,359
Speaker 2: to the Steelers. Naja Harris free agent, Aaron Jones, free

1171
00:55:56,440 --> 00:56:00,160
Speaker 2: agent Vikings. Let's talk about these running backs? Who do

1172
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:00,919
Speaker 2: you like and why?

1173
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:04,879
Speaker 3: Why?

1174
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:07,600
Speaker 2: I mean Nag, I mean Harris. I mean, I don't

1175
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:10,440
Speaker 2: know why you'd say. This guy basically is kind of

1176
00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:13,400
Speaker 2: like under the radar. He was like, you know, average

1177
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:15,799
Speaker 2: almost four yards a game, and he's a first year

1178
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:16,839
Speaker 2: but I think of twenty one.

1179
00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:19,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, but if you think about it, right, so he averaged,

1180
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:23,400
Speaker 4: you know, he had for one thousand yard seasons, but

1181
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:26,399
Speaker 4: the still has saw so little of him they didn't

1182
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:27,399
Speaker 4: pick up his fifth year option.

1183
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:29,800
Speaker 3: I mean, that's what we're talking about.

1184
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:31,800
Speaker 4: So this is a guy with four straight one thousand

1185
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 4: yard seasons, but he's so lightly regarded that his own

1186
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:37,920
Speaker 4: mom couldn't really do anything to set him up to

1187
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:42,920
Speaker 4: celebrate his situation. I think when I look at Naja Harris,

1188
00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:45,319
Speaker 4: he is someone who if he goes to the right team,

1189
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:48,080
Speaker 4: he can see more production. People talking about the lack

1190
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:51,279
Speaker 4: of juice, explosiveness and all those things. But he's really

1191
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:53,480
Speaker 4: good at a lot of things. He just has to

1192
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:56,480
Speaker 4: be fully committed to the process and the team has

1193
00:56:56,520 --> 00:56:57,600
Speaker 4: to be fully committed to him.

1194
00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:00,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they will be. I mean, I think

1195
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:02,120
Speaker 2: it is a good chance he stays in Pittsburgh, don't you.

1196
00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:06,960
Speaker 4: I don't think so. I think he goes elsewhere. I

1197
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:09,880
Speaker 4: think Pittsburgh has their sights on somebody else. I think

1198
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:12,360
Speaker 4: they were allowed to get maybe more younger and dynamic

1199
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:14,400
Speaker 4: in the draft. They're willing to move on from the

1200
00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:16,920
Speaker 4: running back. And I understand that because I'm one of

1201
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:19,720
Speaker 4: the ones that champion phrase like, hey get him, get

1202
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 4: him for seven than trade him.

1203
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:22,760
Speaker 3: That's that's it.

1204
00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:25,880
Speaker 2: Well, what about Aaron Jones. I mean, I don't think

1205
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:28,800
Speaker 2: you had him listed as under the radar kind of

1206
00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:30,680
Speaker 2: free agents round under.

1207
00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:32,840
Speaker 4: The radar, like I don't know what he can provide

1208
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:35,600
Speaker 4: this year, Like he's fine, but he's a descending player

1209
00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:39,320
Speaker 4: to me, Like descending meaning he's declining. He's no longer

1210
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:41,520
Speaker 4: the guy that was the Jewish player, the hype man

1211
00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:45,160
Speaker 4: all that he's fine, Like he's solid player, solid NFL career,

1212
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:48,880
Speaker 4: he just isn't one of those that revolutionized the game.

1213
00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:51,880
Speaker 2: I think Aaron Jones' best bet would be to stay

1214
00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:53,960
Speaker 2: with the Vikings. I mean, just he was at the

1215
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:56,440
Speaker 2: Vikings last year to stay there, and I think him

1216
00:57:56,760 --> 00:58:00,160
Speaker 2: staying with the Vikings would certainly help JJ McCarthy, who

1217
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:01,920
Speaker 2: comes into a second year but is really gonna be

1218
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:04,560
Speaker 2: like his first year because he didn't play, he was hurt.

1219
00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:07,240
Speaker 2: I think that JJ McCarthy, we need a running back

1220
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:08,040
Speaker 2: like Aaron Jones.

1221
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:13,960
Speaker 3: Repeat what she said, because it kind of heard something

1222
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:14,840
Speaker 3: about Aaron Jones.

1223
00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:19,120
Speaker 4: I just don't think, I think, for me, with Aaron Jones,

1224
00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:23,200
Speaker 4: I don't think he is durable enough, dependable enough in

1225
00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:25,920
Speaker 4: terms of like size, structured to be a workhorse running

1226
00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:27,200
Speaker 4: back at this stage of his career.

1227
00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 3: He offers something as an RB two.

1228
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:31,800
Speaker 4: I just don't want him as a lead back, which

1229
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:33,080
Speaker 4: is why I don't view him as like one of

1230
00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:34,439
Speaker 4: those underrated guys on the list.

1231
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:37,200
Speaker 2: All right, let's talk about some wide receivers of you.

1232
00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:38,520
Speaker 2: Who do you got for wide receivers?

1233
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:43,520
Speaker 4: You know, when you think about the wide receivers, like,

1234
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:46,520
Speaker 4: the market is really interesting because there's a few guys

1235
00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:48,120
Speaker 4: can go. But I got the Yammy Brown from the

1236
00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:51,000
Speaker 4: Washington Commanders on the list, and the Yammy Brown. If

1237
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:53,360
Speaker 4: you look at his numbers then they don't wow you.

1238
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:55,920
Speaker 4: But if you look at how he performed over the postseason,

1239
00:58:56,560 --> 00:58:58,360
Speaker 4: it suggests that if you put him in the right role,

1240
00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:02,120
Speaker 4: he can pop this this postseason, he averaged over sixteen

1241
00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:05,080
Speaker 4: yards per catch. Big playmaker from my alma mater.

1242
00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:06,120
Speaker 3: This is what he does.

1243
00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:10,200
Speaker 4: He's a speedster, vertical threat right offense, bombs away where

1244
00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:11,880
Speaker 4: you can push it down the field. He could be

1245
00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:14,320
Speaker 4: someone who emerges as a much better player than he's

1246
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:16,160
Speaker 4: been for the Washington Commanders.

1247
00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:18,360
Speaker 2: So you got him as a kind of under the

1248
00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:20,959
Speaker 2: radio kind of wide receiver. But looking at wide receiver,

1249
00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:23,920
Speaker 2: Amari Cooper is a free agent, I mean, he'd be

1250
00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:26,120
Speaker 2: better served I think staying with the Bills. I would think.

1251
00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:30,560
Speaker 2: But Stefan Diggs, T Higgins obviously we mentioned him, Keenan

1252
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:33,000
Speaker 2: Allen all Right, and DeAndre Hopkins. The's a lot of

1253
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:36,920
Speaker 2: big names as wide receivers. But again, you know that's

1254
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:38,320
Speaker 2: money out there. I don't know if these teams are

1255
00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:40,080
Speaker 2: going to spend that kind of money. I mean, what

1256
00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:40,560
Speaker 2: do you think?

1257
00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 4: No, Well, they also everybody that you name it is

1258
00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:46,760
Speaker 4: like an over thirty player, Like they were great. If

1259
00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:51,080
Speaker 4: you're nostalgic, you love them, but like at some point, man,

1260
00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:54,920
Speaker 4: you want younger, because it's rare that someone even on

1261
00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:57,440
Speaker 4: the outside a wide receiver, once they get to thirty,

1262
00:59:58,080 --> 01:00:00,640
Speaker 4: that number typically is the number that you try to avoid.

1263
01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:03,640
Speaker 4: Seeing your best players near their thirties. You don't want

1264
01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:06,040
Speaker 4: to pay big money for those guys because I tell

1265
01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:09,040
Speaker 4: you that they're going to begin to fade. They're not

1266
01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:10,680
Speaker 4: gonna be the same kind of players that they were

1267
01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:12,240
Speaker 4: when they were in their prime in their twenties.

1268
01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:14,880
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1269
01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:16,960
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Speaker 2: whole bunch of video highlights from all of our shows.

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Speaker 2: access to our Fox Sports Radio videos on YouTube. And

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Speaker 2: by the way, We're live from the ti raq dot

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Speaker 2: Com studios. Now we've got Jay or Nay coming up

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Speaker 2: in about ten twelve minutes from now. But let's talk

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Speaker 2: quarterbacks and a team that really needs one, needs one

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Speaker 2: badly in a tough division. And he guesses, Bucky Brooks

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Speaker 2: what I'm talking about? Which team needs a quarterback badly

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Speaker 2: in a tough division?

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Speaker 4: I mean there's so many, so many teams. I mean,

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Speaker 4: everybody needs one. You look at the East, you know

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Speaker 4: you need you need a team in the Giants if

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Speaker 4: you're gonna bounce back. The Jets need a quarterback. Look, man,

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Speaker 4: they're a ton of quarterback needy teams out there.

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Speaker 3: But who are you pointing to?

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Speaker 2: I was pointing to the Cleveland Browns. All right, are

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Speaker 2: you ready? I mean this dissector is Cleveland brown situation. Okay,

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Speaker 2: it's somewhat ironic. It was the Browns who pushed the

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Speaker 2: quarterback pay scale through the roof when they signed to

1314
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Speaker 2: Shawn Watson four years undred seventy seventy five million back

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01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:39,440
Speaker 2: in July. Got one hundred and eleven of that million

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Speaker 2: guaranteed through twenty twenty five. All Right, so there's a

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Speaker 2: good chance that the Browns I think won't be real

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01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:48,560
Speaker 2: active in free agency because they got a trim twenty

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Speaker 2: three milli in cap compliance by Wednesday, March twelfth to

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Speaker 2: get in there. All right. As far as Deshaan Watson

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Speaker 2: second Achilles surgery, do you think his career is over?

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Speaker 2: Is he done?

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Speaker 3: I think he's done. Not because of the injury.

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Speaker 4: I would say because of the mental He's never been

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01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:09,120
Speaker 4: the same player that he once was.

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Speaker 3: As a three time pro bowler in Houston.

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Speaker 4: Whatever it is, he's lost his mojo and they've tried

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Speaker 4: multiple play calls, multiple systems to get him on tracked.

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Speaker 4: He just has lost the juice. And I think this

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Speaker 4: is a cautionary tale. He got his money and it's

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01:03:25,120 --> 01:03:28,360
Speaker 4: all good, but it's a cautionary tale in terms of

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Speaker 4: he didn't like his situation, refused to play in this situation,

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Speaker 4: lost a year voluntarily because he didn't play, but that

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01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:40,120
Speaker 4: year turns into two years because football is a funny

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Speaker 4: game where if you don't play it, you can't get

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Speaker 4: better at it. And it's not only that part of it,

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Speaker 4: but now he no longer has the confidence to go

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Speaker 4: with But some would say and arm significant arm talent

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Speaker 4: change and without the confidence you have no shot, and

1340
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Speaker 4: so to me when I look at him, there's no

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Speaker 4: shot he ever returns to being anywhere close to the

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Speaker 4: player that he once.

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Speaker 3: Was in Houston.

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Speaker 2: I don't think he'll return to Cleveland. But you think

1345
01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:09,640
Speaker 2: someone takes a flyer on him, there's a chance or no.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I can't understand why, who what?

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Speaker 4: After seeing him play and after chasing him around him

1348
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Speaker 4: like who wants to pay for that product?

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Speaker 3: Like who wants to deal with all of that?

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Speaker 4: He has not played well, he's not the same guy,

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Speaker 4: and look, man, the attitude is going to be the

1352
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Speaker 4: attitude like he look, he can be surly and not

1353
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Speaker 4: putty and all that other stuff, but it doesn't play

1354
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Speaker 4: well in the locker room when your team is getting wax.

1355
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Speaker 4: And the teams he's been a part of the last

1356
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Speaker 4: four years have been wax.

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Speaker 2: All right, So they don't have a quarterback that may

1358
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Speaker 2: lose their old pro Miles Garrett, who wants out of then.

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Speaker 2: I think eventually he's going to win that argument, I

1360
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Speaker 2: really do. Although Jimmy has him the mass.

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Speaker 3: Why do you think he went He doesn't have any leverage.

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Speaker 3: He doesn't have any leverage.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he'll just I think sometimes general is a

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Speaker 2: frightened to have a guy who's not happy on the roster.

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Speaker 1: That's the problem.

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Speaker 4: Do you think, No, I think of anything like you

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Speaker 4: put a hard line in the sand. The last time

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Speaker 4: we saw players sit out willingly like this was Livy

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Speaker 4: and Bell. How did that work out for him? He

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Speaker 4: got his grit, but it crushed it. You cannot look,

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Speaker 4: this is the prime of your career. He is at

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Speaker 4: thirty already. He cannot afford to sit out and think

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Speaker 4: that he's going to play at high level. He'll get

1374
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Speaker 4: the money regardless, But I'm just saying he doesn't have

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Speaker 4: any leverage. He makes it hard on himself in this

1376
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Speaker 4: situation because all of the things that are written into

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01:05:36,040 --> 01:05:42,520
Speaker 4: the CBA make it impossible for somebody to feed the change,

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Speaker 4: to go with this and to do what he wants

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Speaker 4: them to do. Trade him and all this. No, you're

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Speaker 4: not getting traded. I don't care if you don't like it.

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Speaker 4: You can sit out in power, but this is what

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Speaker 4: it is. That's the kind of power that owners have,

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Speaker 4: and Jim Haslam willing to use it.

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Speaker 2: He's willing to use you, right. But I think the

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Speaker 2: average public fan, the average fan has no clue. Really,

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01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:09,200
Speaker 2: they really don't. They understand they're yelling and screaming, are

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Speaker 2: standing on their head in Cincinnati. The Bengals better signed

1388
01:06:12,280 --> 01:06:15,080
Speaker 2: Jamar Chase, the better signed to Higgins, Well tee Higgins. Basically,

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Speaker 2: he's gonna slap with the franchise tags. They'll play, He's

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Speaker 2: gonna be He may not be happy about it. Nothing

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Speaker 2: he could do. It's a second year in a row again,

1392
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Speaker 2: his twenty six meal. Now Jamar Chase, he's still got

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Speaker 2: a contract signed. I mean, I don't know why they're

1394
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Speaker 2: yelling and screaming. The publics say, well, you know, the

1395
01:06:29,840 --> 01:06:31,600
Speaker 2: Bengals are gonna have to pay a thirty five mil.

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Speaker 2: They could have got him last year for a lot less,

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Speaker 2: but no, he signed. He's got to play. And the

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Speaker 2: Bengals basically by being quiet about it that they're using

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Speaker 2: that leverage as you mentioned, so it's not a big

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Speaker 2: whoop they're going to play. Both of those guys will

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01:06:46,840 --> 01:06:49,320
Speaker 2: play for the Bengals next season. Well you know what,

1402
01:06:49,800 --> 01:06:50,640
Speaker 2: they don't play at all.

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Speaker 4: I mean, that's true, and that's it, and it may

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Speaker 4: not look it may not brand him any the coaches,

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Speaker 4: any fans.

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01:06:59,680 --> 01:07:02,360
Speaker 3: Within the locker room, but they can always say, hey man,

1407
01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:03,040
Speaker 3: it's management.

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01:07:03,320 --> 01:07:07,080
Speaker 4: I would love to open the bank and change your situation,

1409
01:07:07,280 --> 01:07:09,360
Speaker 4: but I don't have the juice to do that right now.

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01:07:09,440 --> 01:07:11,720
Speaker 3: You're on the contract. This is what the situation is.

1411
01:07:12,160 --> 01:07:15,080
Speaker 3: You go deal with. If you shoot it straight with players,

1412
01:07:15,120 --> 01:07:16,000
Speaker 3: everyone can handle it.

1413
01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:18,920
Speaker 4: With Miles Garrett, you can tell Miles Garrett, hey man,

1414
01:07:18,960 --> 01:07:20,720
Speaker 4: it's done the person to talk about you play for us,

1415
01:07:20,760 --> 01:07:24,240
Speaker 4: so you don't play. You make that decision, But we're

1416
01:07:24,240 --> 01:07:26,080
Speaker 4: gonna make decisions based on the guys that we have

1417
01:07:26,240 --> 01:07:26,680
Speaker 4: in the build.

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01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:30,520
Speaker 2: Okay, So I understand how frustrating it is for a

1419
01:07:30,640 --> 01:07:34,560
Speaker 2: player they want more money. I understand that Jamar Chase

1420
01:07:34,640 --> 01:07:37,000
Speaker 2: won the Triple Crown and he wants more money than

1421
01:07:37,680 --> 01:07:40,360
Speaker 2: the best tie of the best wide receiver in football

1422
01:07:40,440 --> 01:07:43,200
Speaker 2: right now, his friend who plays with the Vikings. However,

1423
01:07:43,720 --> 01:07:46,160
Speaker 2: you know how frustrating is it for an agent? What

1424
01:07:46,240 --> 01:07:49,600
Speaker 2: does an agent? What juice does an agent have if

1425
01:07:49,600 --> 01:07:52,160
Speaker 2: he's knocking on the door or of the Cincinnati Bengals

1426
01:07:52,200 --> 01:07:55,080
Speaker 2: saying let's open up some negotiations here for jim Ar Chase,

1427
01:07:55,240 --> 01:07:56,960
Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden, Mike Brown or Duke

1428
01:07:57,040 --> 01:08:01,600
Speaker 2: Topin says, why why should we really, I mean he signed, Well,

1429
01:08:01,640 --> 01:08:04,240
Speaker 2: wait wait another year, then we'll talk, right, I mean

1430
01:08:04,520 --> 01:08:06,480
Speaker 2: we're frustrating is for an agent.

1431
01:08:07,040 --> 01:08:09,520
Speaker 4: I mean it's frustrating, but those are the rules and

1432
01:08:09,960 --> 01:08:11,760
Speaker 4: more guys have to be able to be shrewd like

1433
01:08:11,840 --> 01:08:13,560
Speaker 4: that if you want to build a team the right way.

1434
01:08:14,640 --> 01:08:16,160
Speaker 3: The team has the power. You got to know when

1435
01:08:16,200 --> 01:08:18,040
Speaker 3: you can wield the hammer when you need to kind.

1436
01:08:17,920 --> 01:08:19,960
Speaker 4: Of like lay off. But if you have to hammer,

1437
01:08:20,000 --> 01:08:22,240
Speaker 4: you hammer them. And then what it sends a message

1438
01:08:22,240 --> 01:08:23,960
Speaker 4: to everyone else in the team. Do not come up

1439
01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:27,560
Speaker 4: here talking about money. I'm not changing, We're not renegotiating

1440
01:08:27,600 --> 01:08:28,360
Speaker 4: in the middle of a deal.

1441
01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:29,760
Speaker 3: This is what it is.

1442
01:08:30,320 --> 01:08:33,400
Speaker 4: Take it or leave it. I mean, look, it sounds

1443
01:08:33,560 --> 01:08:38,160
Speaker 4: very terse and kurt, but man, it's business. It's not personal.

1444
01:08:38,720 --> 01:08:41,040
Speaker 4: Like if we talk about it being business, what this is.

1445
01:08:42,760 --> 01:08:45,160
Speaker 2: Let's do this though, Let's go behind the scenes. Let's

1446
01:08:45,160 --> 01:08:47,360
Speaker 2: go behind the curtain. Because you played the game, You've

1447
01:08:47,439 --> 01:08:50,200
Speaker 2: seen it firsthand. I talk about it, I see it

1448
01:08:50,240 --> 01:08:53,160
Speaker 2: from a distance. You have played on teams where guys

1449
01:08:53,280 --> 01:08:56,040
Speaker 2: are really poed that they wanted more money and they

1450
01:08:56,080 --> 01:08:58,240
Speaker 2: didn't get them want the money that they wanted. How

1451
01:08:58,320 --> 01:09:00,000
Speaker 2: does that affect the locker room. How does that affec

1452
01:09:00,160 --> 01:09:04,200
Speaker 2: the team? Are they really sullen? What is Give me

1453
01:09:04,240 --> 01:09:06,280
Speaker 2: an example. You have to mention a player's name, but

1454
01:09:06,320 --> 01:09:08,560
Speaker 2: I'm sure you've seen a guy who's banging on the

1455
01:09:08,600 --> 01:09:10,880
Speaker 2: door wants more money, didn't get it because of the

1456
01:09:10,920 --> 01:09:13,200
Speaker 2: situation he was signed. You know, how does that affect

1457
01:09:13,200 --> 01:09:15,599
Speaker 2: the team? And it may affect other players? Say, wow,

1458
01:09:15,920 --> 01:09:18,240
Speaker 2: you know this team will not open up and help me.

1459
01:09:18,520 --> 01:09:20,360
Speaker 2: I want out of here. Well, my contract's up, I

1460
01:09:20,439 --> 01:09:21,040
Speaker 2: want out of here.

1461
01:09:21,800 --> 01:09:23,200
Speaker 3: I mean, that's the other side of the coin.

1462
01:09:23,439 --> 01:09:25,559
Speaker 4: You can take the hardline stance of ownership and say

1463
01:09:25,640 --> 01:09:27,680
Speaker 4: just what we're doing is that we operate. But the

1464
01:09:27,760 --> 01:09:31,360
Speaker 4: team is also looking and paying attention. The team knows

1465
01:09:31,439 --> 01:09:36,519
Speaker 4: the observations shape how those people, whether they fully commit

1466
01:09:36,600 --> 01:09:38,920
Speaker 4: and by it to the program or not. So all

1467
01:09:39,040 --> 01:09:41,639
Speaker 4: of this is part of a trickle down effect where

1468
01:09:41,680 --> 01:09:43,400
Speaker 4: you don't pay one much. We're not paying them all

1469
01:09:44,400 --> 01:09:45,639
Speaker 4: and that's not great.

1470
01:09:46,439 --> 01:09:49,160
Speaker 2: Now, let me ask you something I'm going to jump

1471
01:09:49,400 --> 01:09:53,240
Speaker 2: over here. Let's go to the college level. What if

1472
01:09:53,320 --> 01:09:57,920
Speaker 2: we have a player on college a who's a quarterback

1473
01:09:58,200 --> 01:10:00,840
Speaker 2: and finds out that he had better st that's a

1474
01:10:00,960 --> 01:10:03,040
Speaker 2: quarterback on college b and that guy was getting more

1475
01:10:03,080 --> 01:10:05,960
Speaker 2: money because of nil. I mean, it's going to trickle

1476
01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:08,160
Speaker 2: down to the college level now, isn't it. It's all

1477
01:10:08,160 --> 01:10:11,360
Speaker 2: about the money is the root of all level. It's true,

1478
01:10:11,560 --> 01:10:12,160
Speaker 2: it really is.

1479
01:10:13,479 --> 01:10:15,240
Speaker 4: I mean, it's already down there. It's a part of

1480
01:10:15,280 --> 01:10:16,519
Speaker 4: You got to be able to handle it. You've got

1481
01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:18,360
Speaker 4: to have conversations about it. You've got to make sure

1482
01:10:18,400 --> 01:10:20,320
Speaker 4: that That's why they say you got to have a

1483
01:10:20,360 --> 01:10:22,360
Speaker 4: salary cap in college. You got to have a clear

1484
01:10:22,479 --> 01:10:24,760
Speaker 4: system for how you want to pay your players. You

1485
01:10:24,800 --> 01:10:26,759
Speaker 4: have to have a clear system for how you value

1486
01:10:27,200 --> 01:10:30,640
Speaker 4: those players so that everyone knows. The quarterback is the

1487
01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:33,880
Speaker 4: big biggest piece on the on the chessboard, so you

1488
01:10:33,960 --> 01:10:35,880
Speaker 4: got to make sure that he is compensated fairly. But

1489
01:10:35,960 --> 01:10:38,200
Speaker 4: everybody else, yeah, get in line. You got to figure

1490
01:10:38,200 --> 01:10:41,040
Speaker 4: that part out. It is a part of the landscape now.

1491
01:10:41,120 --> 01:10:45,160
Speaker 4: When college sports became pro sports, that's what you're so,

1492
01:10:45,320 --> 01:10:47,519
Speaker 4: this is what you're getting and you still have to

1493
01:10:47,600 --> 01:10:52,600
Speaker 4: promote a team first environment. Amit at all? That's a

1494
01:10:52,720 --> 01:10:56,640
Speaker 4: challenge for coaches, But look, that's that's that's what you

1495
01:10:56,680 --> 01:10:58,439
Speaker 4: get paid for. That's why they make the big bucks.

1496
01:10:58,479 --> 01:11:01,679
Speaker 2: Now, okay about the coaches. I mean, does a coach

1497
01:11:01,760 --> 01:11:03,759
Speaker 2: on the NFL level go go to the front office

1498
01:11:03,800 --> 01:11:06,080
Speaker 2: and say, look, can you just do me a we

1499
01:11:06,120 --> 01:11:07,760
Speaker 2: need this guy. Could you just open it up and

1500
01:11:07,800 --> 01:11:09,519
Speaker 2: give them give him the money? Well, just he stays

1501
01:11:09,560 --> 01:11:11,400
Speaker 2: out of it. And what about the other day I

1502
01:11:11,439 --> 01:11:15,679
Speaker 2: read a thing about Rick Patino that his team Saint John's.

1503
01:11:15,720 --> 01:11:18,320
Speaker 2: He coaches Saint John's like twenty seven and four this year.

1504
01:11:19,240 --> 01:11:22,320
Speaker 2: He says he doesn't get involved at all with the money,

1505
01:11:22,400 --> 01:11:24,559
Speaker 2: with the nil they got a general manage to handles

1506
01:11:24,560 --> 01:11:28,479
Speaker 2: all that stuff. I mean to the other right, it

1507
01:11:28,520 --> 01:11:29,000
Speaker 2: can be ugly.

1508
01:11:29,080 --> 01:11:30,679
Speaker 4: But the reason why you want to keep the coaches

1509
01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:33,640
Speaker 4: out of it, at least surface level the appearance of

1510
01:11:33,920 --> 01:11:36,680
Speaker 4: is you want him to be able to build a

1511
01:11:36,800 --> 01:11:40,640
Speaker 4: relationship separate and independent from what the money is. You

1512
01:11:40,720 --> 01:11:43,719
Speaker 4: want to be able to coach the player hord without

1513
01:11:43,880 --> 01:11:46,920
Speaker 4: knowing the money factor, about the money factor being a

1514
01:11:47,000 --> 01:11:50,840
Speaker 4: part of you go about your interactions. For instance, if

1515
01:11:50,880 --> 01:11:53,800
Speaker 4: you're paying a guy significant summer money, you know, I

1516
01:11:53,840 --> 01:11:55,280
Speaker 4: don't want to coach him too hard because if I

1517
01:11:55,360 --> 01:11:57,599
Speaker 4: go with him hard, he may transfer and go somewhere else.

1518
01:11:58,160 --> 01:12:01,360
Speaker 3: Right, man, that changes everything changes the ingredients of the cake.

1519
01:12:01,920 --> 01:12:03,560
Speaker 4: So you want to have a check and balance this

1520
01:12:03,680 --> 01:12:06,880
Speaker 4: system where the general manager handles the money and the negotiations,

1521
01:12:07,320 --> 01:12:10,040
Speaker 4: I handle the on field product. No matter what you

1522
01:12:10,400 --> 01:12:14,240
Speaker 4: get paid, you have to impress me. I'm the gatekeeper

1523
01:12:14,280 --> 01:12:15,479
Speaker 4: when it comes to playing time.

1524
01:12:15,960 --> 01:12:17,599
Speaker 3: Okay, but the coach is what he's making.

1525
01:12:17,880 --> 01:12:19,519
Speaker 2: Doesn't the coach have a list of the salaries with

1526
01:12:19,600 --> 01:12:21,240
Speaker 2: these kids are making pology?

1527
01:12:21,640 --> 01:12:24,680
Speaker 4: He knows, but he doesn't want to be directly involved

1528
01:12:24,760 --> 01:12:27,760
Speaker 4: in that part of it allows him to really focus

1529
01:12:27,840 --> 01:12:29,120
Speaker 4: on what he does well with his coach.

1530
01:12:30,080 --> 01:12:32,760
Speaker 2: It's amazing. I mean, really and truly. I'm going to

1531
01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:34,519
Speaker 2: get into this when we go to the Ana coming

1532
01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:37,280
Speaker 2: up in a couple of minutes. But this this salary

1533
01:12:37,400 --> 01:12:40,280
Speaker 2: cap that has to work it really it's funny. You know,

1534
01:12:40,400 --> 01:12:42,760
Speaker 2: remember Woj he used to work for ESPN. He was

1535
01:12:42,800 --> 01:12:44,160
Speaker 2: at the college basketball guy.

1536
01:12:44,320 --> 01:12:44,800
Speaker 1: He left.

1537
01:12:44,960 --> 01:12:47,400
Speaker 2: He loves his alma model, he loves Saint Bonaventure. He

1538
01:12:47,560 --> 01:12:49,400
Speaker 2: left to go to Saint Bonadventure. So what is he doing.

1539
01:12:49,640 --> 01:12:52,439
Speaker 2: He's trying to get nil money for Saint Bonaventure. You

1540
01:12:52,479 --> 01:12:54,200
Speaker 2: know what that's like. That's just trying to make it

1541
01:12:54,320 --> 01:12:56,320
Speaker 2: rain outside. If I go outside right now and say

1542
01:12:56,360 --> 01:12:59,160
Speaker 2: a prayer. It's not going to rain. Really, he's trying

1543
01:12:59,160 --> 01:13:02,000
Speaker 2: to do that at say pod Venture universally, and he's

1544
01:13:02,120 --> 01:13:04,360
Speaker 2: raising money. I read a story the other day. He

1545
01:13:04,439 --> 01:13:08,599
Speaker 2: raised sixteen thousand dollars. He's selling trinkets. He's selling like watches,

1546
01:13:08,880 --> 01:13:12,800
Speaker 2: you know, championship watches, press passes from events. Come on, really,

1547
01:13:13,120 --> 01:13:15,960
Speaker 2: I mean these kids are making Bukou money and he's

1548
01:13:16,000 --> 01:13:18,880
Speaker 2: making sixteen thousand. I mean, you couldn't get a jocks

1549
01:13:18,960 --> 01:13:22,799
Speaker 2: drop case for that at Saint Bonaventure. Of sixteen thousand,

1550
01:13:22,960 --> 01:13:24,880
Speaker 2: you're not going to get the players. And it's not fair,

1551
01:13:25,200 --> 01:13:27,360
Speaker 2: you know, it's not fair to call them division one.

1552
01:13:27,560 --> 01:13:29,960
Speaker 2: I have to call Saint John's Division one because there's

1553
01:13:30,000 --> 01:13:31,439
Speaker 2: two separate animals. It really is.

1554
01:13:32,920 --> 01:13:35,680
Speaker 3: I mean, there are two separate animals. But I mean

1555
01:13:36,080 --> 01:13:37,120
Speaker 3: that's just the way it goes.

1556
01:13:37,400 --> 01:13:43,880
Speaker 4: And look, it's a different time and wooh, and a

1557
01:13:43,960 --> 01:13:46,040
Speaker 4: bunch of these guys are stepping in the college arena

1558
01:13:46,200 --> 01:13:48,479
Speaker 4: trying to figure out what's going on, and I show

1559
01:13:48,560 --> 01:13:51,000
Speaker 4: him most of them are doing like what we said,

1560
01:13:51,439 --> 01:13:53,080
Speaker 4: it's like drinking from a fire hose.

1561
01:13:53,520 --> 01:13:55,360
Speaker 3: We first did this a lot. It's a lot of

1562
01:13:55,439 --> 01:13:57,320
Speaker 3: process a lot to do, but they're figuring it out.

1563
01:13:58,120 --> 01:14:00,400
Speaker 2: Amazing, figure it out. That's O trying to do all

1564
01:14:00,439 --> 01:14:03,519
Speaker 2: my life. Figure it out. He's Bucky Brooks. I'm Andy Freman.

1565
01:14:03,600 --> 01:14:07,519
Speaker 2: We are Fox Sports Sunday at Fox Sports Radio. Raise

1566
01:14:07,600 --> 01:14:11,080
Speaker 2: your hand. It's time for yay r nae and it's

1567
01:14:11,160 --> 01:14:15,280
Speaker 2: freaking next yay orna come in right up. It's about

1568
01:14:15,320 --> 01:14:17,880
Speaker 2: twelve minutes before the top of the hour, and of

1569
01:14:17,960 --> 01:14:19,640
Speaker 2: course we're a lying from the Ti rock dot Com

1570
01:14:19,720 --> 01:14:24,679
Speaker 2: studios and it's time for our mine and executive producer

1571
01:14:24,760 --> 01:14:27,280
Speaker 2: Paate Pat You ready for yayo n A.

1572
01:14:28,439 --> 01:14:29,720
Speaker 3: Okay, let's figure.

1573
01:14:29,600 --> 01:14:33,479
Speaker 1: Rock those brains, gentlemen, these stories needed as.

1574
01:14:33,520 --> 01:14:36,479
Speaker 3: I think we need a ruling on this nay.

1575
01:14:37,920 --> 01:14:41,559
Speaker 5: All right, Andy and Bucky, it is time to play.

1576
01:14:41,800 --> 01:14:45,360
Speaker 5: And what can I say? It's the yay or the nay,

1577
01:14:45,800 --> 01:14:49,080
Speaker 5: And let's play, guys, a little wordplay there for sorright.

1578
01:14:49,120 --> 01:14:49,920
Speaker 5: I'm done being doury.

1579
01:14:50,120 --> 01:14:51,240
Speaker 2: I didn't realize you with that.

1580
01:14:51,320 --> 01:14:55,240
Speaker 5: Cre Yeah, I'm done being goofy with that. But let's

1581
01:14:55,280 --> 01:14:57,200
Speaker 5: get started with the ear nase guys. But thank you

1582
01:14:57,280 --> 01:14:58,240
Speaker 5: for the creativity on that.

1583
01:14:58,400 --> 01:14:58,679
Speaker 1: Andy.

1584
01:14:59,439 --> 01:15:00,760
Speaker 2: First, we creativity.

1585
01:15:00,800 --> 01:15:04,439
Speaker 5: Hey, what can I say? All right, I'm done. So

1586
01:15:05,000 --> 01:15:08,400
Speaker 5: here's our first one, guys. The w NBA has announced

1587
01:15:08,520 --> 01:15:13,360
Speaker 5: expansion to Toronto Cleveland in San Francisco. Too much, too soon,

1588
01:15:13,960 --> 01:15:16,519
Speaker 5: Andy Furman, Yeah, your name, I say yay.

1589
01:15:16,600 --> 01:15:18,960
Speaker 2: Now now that I'm kind of torn between this because

1590
01:15:19,000 --> 01:15:22,519
Speaker 2: I think more teams need more jobs, more jobs, so players,

1591
01:15:22,600 --> 01:15:24,800
Speaker 2: front office people, coaches with me, So I like that,

1592
01:15:25,240 --> 01:15:27,720
Speaker 2: But I think it's sna the success wise. I think

1593
01:15:27,840 --> 01:15:30,720
Speaker 2: sometimes less is more and they really jump in the gun,

1594
01:15:31,320 --> 01:15:33,120
Speaker 2: put the brakes on just a little bit. So I'm

1595
01:15:33,120 --> 01:15:34,400
Speaker 2: gonna say nay on that one.

1596
01:15:38,080 --> 01:15:41,360
Speaker 3: To let's say nay on that one as well. I

1597
01:15:41,640 --> 01:15:45,000
Speaker 3: just think it's the situation where you just don't want

1598
01:15:45,000 --> 01:15:46,800
Speaker 3: to go that route. So I'm gonna go down knows my.

1599
01:15:46,840 --> 01:15:49,439
Speaker 5: Answer, all right too, nay's for that one on that

1600
01:15:49,520 --> 01:15:51,720
Speaker 5: all right? Well, next one up here, guys. As for

1601
01:15:51,880 --> 01:15:54,960
Speaker 5: Major League Baseball, it all gets under weighed about three weeks.

1602
01:15:55,040 --> 01:15:57,160
Speaker 5: I can't wait. By the way, they can't get out

1603
01:15:57,200 --> 01:16:00,479
Speaker 5: of their own way. Though the World Series coincide, the

1604
01:16:00,600 --> 01:16:05,599
Speaker 5: NFL opener and the MLB opener coincides with March madness. Agree,

1605
01:16:05,920 --> 01:16:10,560
Speaker 5: Yeah your nay, Bucky, you get first go I disagree.

1606
01:16:10,200 --> 01:16:12,640
Speaker 4: Bad timing, like, you have to know, you gotta read

1607
01:16:12,680 --> 01:16:14,919
Speaker 4: the room, You got to know where you're at. Baseball

1608
01:16:15,240 --> 01:16:21,400
Speaker 4: is behind football and baseball, so I just think you

1609
01:16:21,479 --> 01:16:24,200
Speaker 4: should have your own day. Let basketball and football have

1610
01:16:24,320 --> 01:16:26,479
Speaker 4: their days, but don't get mess it up. The World

1611
01:16:26,520 --> 01:16:28,720
Speaker 4: Series is a great event set that out separate and

1612
01:16:28,760 --> 01:16:31,120
Speaker 4: apart from everything. I think they're doing too much when

1613
01:16:31,120 --> 01:16:32,839
Speaker 4: they try to infringe Upondo's other sports.

1614
01:16:33,920 --> 01:16:36,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna go. Yeah, I agree. I mean, stay

1615
01:16:36,080 --> 01:16:38,960
Speaker 2: in your lane. You know what you got. And obviously

1616
01:16:39,040 --> 01:16:43,000
Speaker 2: you can't compete with the NFL and March madness, that's

1617
01:16:43,000 --> 01:16:44,519
Speaker 2: a big deal. I mean, don't compete with them. So

1618
01:16:45,000 --> 01:16:48,160
Speaker 2: and what baseball is doing? Did this starting earlier and

1619
01:16:48,240 --> 01:16:51,880
Speaker 2: earlier in northern cities? I mean Cincinnati opens up on

1620
01:16:52,000 --> 01:16:54,800
Speaker 2: the twenty seventh, I believe the twenty seventh of March.

1621
01:16:54,840 --> 01:16:56,799
Speaker 2: Are you kidding? Then you just to open up baseball

1622
01:16:56,840 --> 01:17:00,080
Speaker 2: like April ninth, tenth around there? Why so early? I

1623
01:17:00,160 --> 01:17:03,000
Speaker 2: mean the in the cold. You know, I've gone to

1624
01:17:03,080 --> 01:17:05,360
Speaker 2: opening days and since when there was snow. You know

1625
01:17:05,680 --> 01:17:09,639
Speaker 2: it's not fan conducive. I mean, come on, really push

1626
01:17:09,680 --> 01:17:12,080
Speaker 2: it back, and I know that I'm not gonna mention

1627
01:17:12,160 --> 01:17:14,760
Speaker 2: play less games. That's never gonna happen because owners will

1628
01:17:14,800 --> 01:17:16,519
Speaker 2: not stand for They used to have double headers. They

1629
01:17:16,520 --> 01:17:19,479
Speaker 2: didn't want you to pay, you know, once for two games.

1630
01:17:19,640 --> 01:17:21,880
Speaker 2: They want two separate admissions. I get it, all right,

1631
01:17:22,040 --> 01:17:24,240
Speaker 2: it's all about the Mulah, the green cabbage, the gult,

1632
01:17:24,439 --> 01:17:27,240
Speaker 2: that's what they want. But still at all make make

1633
01:17:27,320 --> 01:17:30,519
Speaker 2: it fan friendly, you know, March twenty seventh, come on?

1634
01:17:31,200 --> 01:17:34,680
Speaker 5: So no, all right, well, speaking of fan friendly and

1635
01:17:34,720 --> 01:17:37,839
Speaker 5: all about the Moulah, here guys, we've got Luca Donson's

1636
01:17:37,960 --> 01:17:43,600
Speaker 5: Lebron James have the Lakers looking like title legitimate title contenders.

1637
01:17:43,720 --> 01:17:46,040
Speaker 5: I'm a Laker fan, so I'm happy to hear this one.

1638
01:17:46,160 --> 01:17:48,880
Speaker 5: Uh Andy Verman, yay or nay on this?

1639
01:17:49,400 --> 01:17:51,599
Speaker 2: You know what, I would have said, yay, but Lebron

1640
01:17:51,720 --> 01:17:54,120
Speaker 2: got hurt. Have you heard that ankle? And they say

1641
01:17:54,200 --> 01:17:56,040
Speaker 2: maybe out for several weeks. I would have said yeay,

1642
01:17:56,080 --> 01:17:58,360
Speaker 2: but I may have to move today because the Lakers,

1643
01:17:58,439 --> 01:17:59,720
Speaker 2: I mean, one of the best games of the year

1644
01:17:59,800 --> 01:18:01,719
Speaker 2: was a Thursday night. They beat the Niche and overtime

1645
01:18:01,760 --> 01:18:04,000
Speaker 2: one thirteen one o nine. I think it was something

1646
01:18:04,120 --> 01:18:06,880
Speaker 2: like Luca and lebronca buying for like sixty three points

1647
01:18:07,120 --> 01:18:10,960
Speaker 2: and like nineteen rebounds. It was tremendous. And since Luca

1648
01:18:11,080 --> 01:18:13,519
Speaker 2: has joined the Lakers, they were ten and three, so

1649
01:18:13,840 --> 01:18:16,080
Speaker 2: they're on their way. They were rolling, but now with

1650
01:18:16,240 --> 01:18:18,519
Speaker 2: Lebron on the shelf, I don't know, I don't know.

1651
01:18:18,720 --> 01:18:19,640
Speaker 2: I just have to say nay.

1652
01:18:19,760 --> 01:18:24,160
Speaker 4: Maybe, But when I look at it, look, look, I

1653
01:18:24,240 --> 01:18:27,719
Speaker 4: still think yay. I think they still are a threat,

1654
01:18:27,880 --> 01:18:29,680
Speaker 4: just because those two guys can get it done a

1655
01:18:29,680 --> 01:18:32,799
Speaker 4: two main game. The injury to Lebron Jame changes everything.

1656
01:18:32,880 --> 01:18:35,799
Speaker 4: But we've seen this team play without them and have success.

1657
01:18:36,520 --> 01:18:40,240
Speaker 4: They're just deep and people not as big, but they're deep.

1658
01:18:40,360 --> 01:18:42,200
Speaker 4: They have a talented bunch. I think they can mess

1659
01:18:42,240 --> 01:18:43,679
Speaker 4: it up and get to the finals and beyond.

1660
01:18:44,960 --> 01:18:46,960
Speaker 5: All Right, well, I love hearing that one buck he

1661
01:18:47,000 --> 01:18:49,519
Speaker 5: has a Laker fans, So let's go. But next we're

1662
01:18:49,520 --> 01:18:53,120
Speaker 5: gonna move to Auburn here because Auburn's ranked number one

1663
01:18:53,240 --> 01:18:57,760
Speaker 5: college basketball? Are they now a basketball slash not a

1664
01:18:57,920 --> 01:18:59,559
Speaker 5: football school? Yay or nay?

1665
01:18:59,640 --> 01:19:06,479
Speaker 4: Bucky Rooks, they haven't been great in football the last years.

1666
01:19:06,479 --> 01:19:08,280
Speaker 4: I think they're basketball school. Bruce Pearl has done a

1667
01:19:08,320 --> 01:19:11,640
Speaker 4: really good job with Arburn getting to it, and I

1668
01:19:11,720 --> 01:19:14,280
Speaker 4: think about the rivalry between them and Alabama and all

1669
01:19:14,360 --> 01:19:15,320
Speaker 4: of the stuff.

1670
01:19:15,080 --> 01:19:16,280
Speaker 3: That the SEC has committed.

1671
01:19:16,760 --> 01:19:19,599
Speaker 4: They want to be good in three sports, football, basketball, baseball.

1672
01:19:19,640 --> 01:19:20,719
Speaker 3: So yeah, Arba's in the midst.

1673
01:19:21,640 --> 01:19:23,880
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say nay. I love Bruce Pearl. He's done

1674
01:19:23,880 --> 01:19:26,000
Speaker 2: a great job wherever he's been. I mean, sometimes he

1675
01:19:26,040 --> 01:19:28,479
Speaker 2: has some problems with the NCAA. But more than that,

1676
01:19:28,600 --> 01:19:30,519
Speaker 2: I say nay. I'll tell you why. It's not so

1677
01:19:30,640 --> 01:19:34,160
Speaker 2: much the schools where you're at is the geographic situation

1678
01:19:34,560 --> 01:19:37,400
Speaker 2: and that area right now, they're football crazy. They're nuts

1679
01:19:37,400 --> 01:19:40,479
Speaker 2: about football down there. And I know Auburn lost yesterday,

1680
01:19:40,640 --> 01:19:43,479
Speaker 2: they lost Alabama. They'll still be number one. Well maybe not.

1681
01:19:43,560 --> 01:19:45,280
Speaker 2: Maybe Duke will be number one this week. We'll see.

1682
01:19:45,280 --> 01:19:47,639
Speaker 2: I don't know, but they lost yesterday. But I still

1683
01:19:47,720 --> 01:19:50,320
Speaker 2: believe in the scheme of things. That area right now

1684
01:19:50,479 --> 01:19:53,639
Speaker 2: is football nuts. I think they'll be football all right.

1685
01:19:53,800 --> 01:19:56,280
Speaker 5: All right, Well, final, say, guys, a salary cap for

1686
01:19:56,400 --> 01:19:58,960
Speaker 5: nil and college across the board, all the visions.

1687
01:19:59,200 --> 01:20:02,960
Speaker 2: Yeah your nay and say yay yay because Bucky Brooks

1688
01:20:02,960 --> 01:20:04,879
Speaker 2: said so, and I agree, yay yay.

1689
01:20:05,720 --> 01:20:08,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeay, yay. I'm all about it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yes,

1690
01:20:08,520 --> 01:20:09,320
Speaker 3: let's continue to do it.

1691
01:20:09,960 --> 01:20:13,240
Speaker 2: Unbelievable. By the way, he's a cheat and he tells

1692
01:20:13,280 --> 01:20:15,400
Speaker 2: you how he did it. Yes, he's a cheat. Data

1693
01:20:15,479 --> 01:20:18,800
Speaker 2: Moore when on Fox Sports Sunday, coming up right here next,

1694
01:20:20,880 --> 01:20:23,160
Speaker 2: All right, this was dumb, really dumb, and you know what,

1695
01:20:23,360 --> 01:20:25,720
Speaker 2: he doubled down on it. We'll get to that in

1696
01:20:25,880 --> 01:20:29,320
Speaker 2: just about a minute. Good morning, everybody. This is Fox

1697
01:20:29,439 --> 01:20:32,880
Speaker 2: Sports Sunday and Fox Sports. Ready. He's Bucky Brooks. I'm

1698
01:20:32,920 --> 01:20:35,720
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Speaker 2: buying should be. And I say, I say, let the

1704
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Speaker 2: sun shine spring ahead with your clock on the East coast.

1705
01:20:57,720 --> 01:21:01,360
Speaker 2: It's now eight oh one o one on the East coast.

1706
01:21:01,400 --> 01:21:03,880
Speaker 2: All right, Bucky, are you ready? I know, I know

1707
01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:07,000
Speaker 2: you're a little bit sleepy because you had that moving

1708
01:21:07,080 --> 01:21:10,759
Speaker 2: the clock deal. It's rough, I know, but we're almost

1709
01:21:10,800 --> 01:21:11,599
Speaker 2: at the finish line.

1710
01:21:13,840 --> 01:21:16,160
Speaker 4: It's a little different. It's a little different. It's a

1711
01:21:16,200 --> 01:21:19,560
Speaker 4: little different. Yeah, like it's one of the things. And

1712
01:21:19,880 --> 01:21:22,200
Speaker 4: because of the way that it changed, Like, man, the

1713
01:21:22,280 --> 01:21:25,759
Speaker 4: two to three thing is just a little different, little different.

1714
01:21:25,840 --> 01:21:28,519
Speaker 2: Maybe they should change the clock like at noontime, you know,

1715
01:21:29,000 --> 01:21:29,800
Speaker 2: instead of two of them.

1716
01:21:29,920 --> 01:21:31,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, give me a little more time.

1717
01:21:31,240 --> 01:21:33,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, they should do that. And this way people

1718
01:21:33,960 --> 01:21:35,680
Speaker 2: could get out of work faster. If you get out

1719
01:21:35,680 --> 01:21:38,679
Speaker 2: of work at five pm, you know it's twelve o'clock, right, boom,

1720
01:21:38,800 --> 01:21:40,439
Speaker 2: but you lose your lunch hour. They should do it

1721
01:21:40,479 --> 01:21:43,080
Speaker 2: at four. Maybe do it at four o'clock. I don't

1722
01:21:43,520 --> 01:21:44,000
Speaker 2: know what it is.

1723
01:21:44,360 --> 01:21:46,160
Speaker 3: It's a different deal. Why even do it at all?

1724
01:21:47,160 --> 01:21:49,160
Speaker 2: Well, they should leave it this way. They should leave

1725
01:21:49,200 --> 01:21:52,280
Speaker 2: daylight savings all the time, right, that's what they should do.

1726
01:21:52,800 --> 01:21:54,080
Speaker 3: Leave it. Just leave it one way.

1727
01:21:54,600 --> 01:21:56,200
Speaker 2: There you go. I love it because it is a

1728
01:21:56,280 --> 01:21:58,240
Speaker 2: pain in the rear rent to change all the clocks

1729
01:21:58,280 --> 01:21:59,880
Speaker 2: in your house. The good news is most of the

1730
01:22:00,120 --> 01:22:03,360
Speaker 2: things go automatically now, like in your car and on radios,

1731
01:22:03,360 --> 01:22:05,240
Speaker 2: on your phone goes to it, So that's not a

1732
01:22:05,280 --> 01:22:08,400
Speaker 2: bad deal, all right. I gotta kind of pri I

1733
01:22:08,479 --> 01:22:10,719
Speaker 2: love to pride with you because you played the game,

1734
01:22:11,040 --> 01:22:13,799
Speaker 2: you were a pro, you were there, you wore the uniform.

1735
01:22:14,200 --> 01:22:16,680
Speaker 2: Do you ever save your checks? I mean you just

1736
01:22:16,880 --> 01:22:19,599
Speaker 2: just as a as a momento, I mean the check

1737
01:22:19,680 --> 01:22:22,120
Speaker 2: to say Green Bay Packers or wherever it may be,

1738
01:22:22,520 --> 01:22:22,920
Speaker 2: the team.

1739
01:22:23,000 --> 01:22:26,720
Speaker 3: No, it would be nice, no deposit deposit and't gone long.

1740
01:22:26,840 --> 01:22:29,840
Speaker 2: Make a copy of it to say that, you know, momento,

1741
01:22:30,400 --> 01:22:31,920
Speaker 2: you gotta scrap. Do you have a scrap book?

1742
01:22:32,400 --> 01:22:32,439
Speaker 3: No?

1743
01:22:32,680 --> 01:22:36,120
Speaker 4: Yes, I mean I guess some things, but I can't

1744
01:22:36,120 --> 01:22:40,080
Speaker 4: even say this organized enough to really take advantage of.

1745
01:22:41,080 --> 01:22:44,360
Speaker 2: All Right, quick question, because again, you've been around athletes.

1746
01:22:44,400 --> 01:22:46,559
Speaker 2: You've seen it. I'm sure sometimes you shake your head

1747
01:22:46,600 --> 01:22:48,320
Speaker 2: so you can't believe it you see, but you know,

1748
01:22:48,520 --> 01:22:50,920
Speaker 2: say say it. It gets money. You know he's a

1749
01:22:50,960 --> 01:22:54,439
Speaker 2: great player and against that next contract, it's big time money.

1750
01:22:54,840 --> 01:22:57,120
Speaker 2: Do you sometimes not only see a change in attitude,

1751
01:22:57,120 --> 01:22:59,720
Speaker 2: which I'm sure that may happen, but do you think

1752
01:22:59,800 --> 01:23:02,320
Speaker 2: that he sometimes gets lazy a little bit? He's got

1753
01:23:02,360 --> 01:23:04,960
Speaker 2: the money, he's there, he does have to put out

1754
01:23:05,000 --> 01:23:07,280
Speaker 2: that much on the field. He's not practicing as hard

1755
01:23:07,479 --> 01:23:09,280
Speaker 2: as he used to before he got that big money.

1756
01:23:09,439 --> 01:23:10,080
Speaker 2: Have you seen that?

1757
01:23:11,840 --> 01:23:13,200
Speaker 4: I mean you see it all the time, but like

1758
01:23:13,360 --> 01:23:16,439
Speaker 4: I mean, it's no different than people who are losing weight.

1759
01:23:16,479 --> 01:23:19,760
Speaker 4: They lose weight, then they get complacent and the way

1760
01:23:19,760 --> 01:23:23,479
Speaker 4: it comes right back on. It's more of like trying

1761
01:23:23,520 --> 01:23:26,599
Speaker 4: to examine how people are motivated and driven, like are

1762
01:23:26,640 --> 01:23:29,680
Speaker 4: they competitors that just love competing or do they just.

1763
01:23:29,800 --> 01:23:33,800
Speaker 3: Kind of like the game as what ends to a means,

1764
01:23:34,080 --> 01:23:35,680
Speaker 3: you know, means to an end.

1765
01:23:35,840 --> 01:23:39,719
Speaker 4: And I think you have seen guys who have gotten

1766
01:23:39,760 --> 01:23:42,000
Speaker 4: the money and become fat cats and are no longer

1767
01:23:42,080 --> 01:23:42,959
Speaker 4: the same type.

1768
01:23:42,800 --> 01:23:45,360
Speaker 3: Players because they're not driven. They don't do the work

1769
01:23:45,400 --> 01:23:46,679
Speaker 3: that they did to get to this point.

1770
01:23:47,400 --> 01:23:49,519
Speaker 4: You hope before you invest in a player like that,

1771
01:23:50,560 --> 01:23:53,639
Speaker 4: that you know how they're wired, what makes them tick,

1772
01:23:53,920 --> 01:23:56,479
Speaker 4: and you know and you feel very confident that the

1773
01:23:56,560 --> 01:23:57,960
Speaker 4: money's not gonna change how they perform.

1774
01:23:58,680 --> 01:24:02,000
Speaker 2: Interesting, all right. I saw a thing the other like

1775
01:24:02,200 --> 01:24:04,280
Speaker 2: one of those thirty for thirty things, I think, maybe

1776
01:24:04,320 --> 01:24:06,680
Speaker 2: with a coach and he said there's two kinds of

1777
01:24:06,760 --> 01:24:09,000
Speaker 2: players want they just want to play and some that

1778
01:24:09,120 --> 01:24:11,400
Speaker 2: play to win. And I forgot who it was. It

1779
01:24:11,439 --> 01:24:13,240
Speaker 2: was kind of interesting. I forgot who that was. An

1780
01:24:13,280 --> 01:24:16,240
Speaker 2: old time coach. Maybe he was maybe was coach K.

1781
01:24:16,600 --> 01:24:18,320
Speaker 2: I don't remember. It'll come back to him. I just

1782
01:24:18,880 --> 01:24:21,599
Speaker 2: things come and go sometimes, But he hears a player

1783
01:24:21,880 --> 01:24:23,640
Speaker 2: and he played here. Since then I got to know him,

1784
01:24:23,680 --> 01:24:26,120
Speaker 2: and he wasn't a bad guy. But every time I

1785
01:24:26,200 --> 01:24:27,920
Speaker 2: read about him, I shake my head. I can't believe

1786
01:24:27,920 --> 01:24:30,360
Speaker 2: the guy's like nuts. He really I'm talking about Adam

1787
01:24:30,439 --> 01:24:33,800
Speaker 2: pac Man Jones. He's always had incidents, but no matter

1788
01:24:33,960 --> 01:24:36,960
Speaker 2: what it was, I mean, and he comes back out again,

1789
01:24:37,040 --> 01:24:39,479
Speaker 2: and I'll tell you in a second what he said.

1790
01:24:39,600 --> 01:24:42,720
Speaker 2: But he seemed to me like a good guy. He

1791
01:24:42,840 --> 01:24:45,160
Speaker 2: really was. I mean, I've had him several times on

1792
01:24:45,240 --> 01:24:48,719
Speaker 2: the radio and no problem whatsoever. Always somewhat of a gentleman.

1793
01:24:49,040 --> 01:24:50,800
Speaker 2: And next thing you know, he goes ballist, he goes

1794
01:24:50,840 --> 01:24:54,120
Speaker 2: crazy because Adam pac Man Jones said just the other

1795
01:24:54,200 --> 01:24:57,800
Speaker 2: day he used to smoke marijuana all the time while

1796
01:24:57,840 --> 01:25:01,200
Speaker 2: he was playing. But he I have faced any punishment

1797
01:25:01,240 --> 01:25:05,000
Speaker 2: because he was able to outsmart the NFL. Why would

1798
01:25:05,040 --> 01:25:07,240
Speaker 2: you do that? Why would you say that? Now? And

1799
01:25:07,360 --> 01:25:11,280
Speaker 2: I get it, the NFL has changed and got very lenient.

1800
01:25:11,400 --> 01:25:15,439
Speaker 2: Now there's no suspensions for failing a test smoking marijuana

1801
01:25:15,520 --> 01:25:18,120
Speaker 2: back in twenty twenty five. Now they change. I get it.

1802
01:25:18,280 --> 01:25:20,960
Speaker 2: It's society. But if you're wondering how we did it,

1803
01:25:21,320 --> 01:25:25,360
Speaker 2: he revealed the secret this week with Dion Sanders on

1804
01:25:25,520 --> 01:25:28,599
Speaker 2: the two B show We Got Time Today, and Jones

1805
01:25:28,640 --> 01:25:32,200
Speaker 2: said he cheated the NFL's drug program by get this,

1806
01:25:32,800 --> 01:25:37,439
Speaker 2: using someone else's urine. I mean, again, I don't like

1807
01:25:37,520 --> 01:25:41,200
Speaker 2: the fact that he cheated number one, But why now? Why?

1808
01:25:41,400 --> 01:25:41,519
Speaker 1: Who?

1809
01:25:41,720 --> 01:25:44,400
Speaker 2: First of all, who why? I'm not gonna say who cares?

1810
01:25:44,479 --> 01:25:46,639
Speaker 2: I care because I'm talking about it. But why why

1811
01:25:46,680 --> 01:25:48,880
Speaker 2: would you bring what good does that do? Why? I

1812
01:25:48,960 --> 01:25:50,840
Speaker 2: had a general manager always used to say this to

1813
01:25:50,920 --> 01:25:53,759
Speaker 2: me when I went crazy on the radio. What's the upside?

1814
01:25:54,200 --> 01:25:57,160
Speaker 2: What is the upside for Adam Pacman Jones to go

1815
01:25:57,400 --> 01:26:00,680
Speaker 2: public with this announcement that he cheated the NFL and

1816
01:26:00,760 --> 01:26:03,559
Speaker 2: he smoked marijuana before every game and during the game.

1817
01:26:05,120 --> 01:26:09,080
Speaker 3: It's an attention grabber. It grabs headlines when you see that,

1818
01:26:09,320 --> 01:26:10,519
Speaker 3: it becomes fodder.

1819
01:26:10,920 --> 01:26:14,360
Speaker 4: Is on every talk show outside of your own personal show.

1820
01:26:14,400 --> 01:26:16,519
Speaker 4: If you're in the industry. Yeah, Like, I mean, that's

1821
01:26:16,560 --> 01:26:18,160
Speaker 4: why you do it. You go on because there's some

1822
01:26:18,680 --> 01:26:21,439
Speaker 4: truth to it. You can put it behind the picturesque backdrop.

1823
01:26:21,520 --> 01:26:23,880
Speaker 4: And now it becomes a major story, which it has become.

1824
01:26:24,640 --> 01:26:26,479
Speaker 2: I guess he wants his name out there. He has

1825
01:26:26,520 --> 01:26:28,760
Speaker 2: an ego. He wants people to talk upo aut him.

1826
01:26:28,760 --> 01:26:30,479
Speaker 2: I guess like we're doing right now, at least I'm

1827
01:26:30,520 --> 01:26:33,200
Speaker 2: doing it. Have you seen guys smoke marijuana when they played?

1828
01:26:33,240 --> 01:26:38,559
Speaker 4: When you played, I mean, I mean not during the game,

1829
01:26:38,600 --> 01:26:40,559
Speaker 4: but it's a big part of the culture back then,

1830
01:26:40,680 --> 01:26:43,560
Speaker 4: no doubt. I mean there are guys that did what

1831
01:26:43,640 --> 01:26:47,160
Speaker 4: they needed to do to get ready to play and

1832
01:26:47,240 --> 01:26:49,000
Speaker 4: perform and deal with all the stress or whatever.

1833
01:26:49,120 --> 01:26:51,519
Speaker 3: So yes, I've seen all kinds of things, and I

1834
01:26:51,560 --> 01:26:51,960
Speaker 3: think I.

1835
01:26:51,960 --> 01:26:52,559
Speaker 2: Don't have a problem.

1836
01:26:54,880 --> 01:26:55,439
Speaker 3: But I've seen it.

1837
01:26:55,880 --> 01:26:59,000
Speaker 2: If they wanted to punish athletes with marijuana today, they

1838
01:26:59,160 --> 01:27:01,920
Speaker 2: have to shut down the end. Really they would, And

1839
01:27:02,200 --> 01:27:03,840
Speaker 2: I don't have a problem with that. I've been around

1840
01:27:03,880 --> 01:27:05,960
Speaker 2: the NBA, I've seen, I did some work with some teams,

1841
01:27:06,000 --> 01:27:09,200
Speaker 2: and I don't have a problem with it. And I'm

1842
01:27:09,240 --> 01:27:11,600
Speaker 2: certainly glad they made it a little more lenient, you know,

1843
01:27:11,680 --> 01:27:13,280
Speaker 2: with the rules. It's not that big of a deal.

1844
01:27:13,320 --> 01:27:16,240
Speaker 2: I don't think, I really don't. But Jones says he

1845
01:27:16,920 --> 01:27:20,080
Speaker 2: never got caught, but one player did back in two

1846
01:27:20,120 --> 01:27:22,760
Speaker 2: thousand and five. Former running back I don't know if

1847
01:27:22,760 --> 01:27:29,479
Speaker 2: you knew from the Vikings, Ontario Smith yes, yeah. Now

1848
01:27:30,000 --> 01:27:33,160
Speaker 2: do you know what a wizarenator is? I never heard

1849
01:27:33,200 --> 01:27:36,519
Speaker 2: of this before. I guess it's a contraption that helps

1850
01:27:36,560 --> 01:27:39,000
Speaker 2: you be drug tests. Right, how does that work? I

1851
01:27:39,040 --> 01:27:41,040
Speaker 2: don't think you have one? Do you know wizator?

1852
01:27:41,880 --> 01:27:41,920
Speaker 5: No?

1853
01:27:42,240 --> 01:27:45,439
Speaker 4: I don't have one, but I just remember it was

1854
01:27:45,439 --> 01:27:50,320
Speaker 4: the apparatus that Smith used to try and defeat one

1855
01:27:50,360 --> 01:27:53,280
Speaker 4: of the tests and he got caught, and they do

1856
01:27:53,320 --> 01:27:57,439
Speaker 4: it again. So it's a thing that everyone is always

1857
01:27:57,479 --> 01:27:59,200
Speaker 4: trying to push a lot, particularly those guys who have

1858
01:27:59,240 --> 01:28:02,200
Speaker 4: an issue with weed. And you know it only comes

1859
01:28:02,240 --> 01:28:04,479
Speaker 4: once a year. If you gear up for that year,

1860
01:28:04,560 --> 01:28:05,840
Speaker 4: you don't have to worry about take that.

1861
01:28:07,120 --> 01:28:09,160
Speaker 3: I mean, those two things. So that's why you have

1862
01:28:09,920 --> 01:28:10,720
Speaker 3: that stuff built in.

1863
01:28:10,920 --> 01:28:14,840
Speaker 4: But never did they think Kyle warn would make a

1864
01:28:14,960 --> 01:28:17,240
Speaker 4: run and do some things like that and then come

1865
01:28:17,320 --> 01:28:19,599
Speaker 4: back and admit it years after the fact.

1866
01:28:19,920 --> 01:28:20,839
Speaker 3: That's crazy.

1867
01:28:21,920 --> 01:28:25,280
Speaker 2: That would be like if you were to admit on

1868
01:28:25,479 --> 01:28:29,160
Speaker 2: this show that you cheated on your income tax. I mean,

1869
01:28:29,920 --> 01:28:31,439
Speaker 2: I don't care if you did, good for you, but

1870
01:28:31,520 --> 01:28:32,920
Speaker 2: why would why would you do that?

1871
01:28:33,400 --> 01:28:33,560
Speaker 5: You know?

1872
01:28:33,640 --> 01:28:36,400
Speaker 2: Why is that a pavan? I don't know why people

1873
01:28:36,479 --> 01:28:39,000
Speaker 2: do certainly, I mean, is he proud? I guess he's

1874
01:28:39,040 --> 01:28:41,000
Speaker 2: proud of the fact that he was able to smoke

1875
01:28:41,040 --> 01:28:43,880
Speaker 2: marijuana through his career. And he entered the NFL back

1876
01:28:43,920 --> 01:28:46,280
Speaker 2: in two thousand and six. The Titans made him the

1877
01:28:46,400 --> 01:28:49,360
Speaker 2: six pick overall and the draft in oh six. And look,

1878
01:28:49,400 --> 01:28:52,000
Speaker 2: I'm sure he's taken many drug tests and he passed

1879
01:28:52,040 --> 01:28:55,280
Speaker 2: every one of them, you know, so he said he's

1880
01:28:55,400 --> 01:28:58,680
Speaker 2: someone else's urine. So I guess he didn't have a Wisitator.

1881
01:28:58,800 --> 01:29:00,640
Speaker 2: He didn't buy a Worsinator. What do you where do

1882
01:29:00,680 --> 01:29:02,599
Speaker 2: you get one? Could you? Could I get a Wiginator

1883
01:29:02,640 --> 01:29:03,160
Speaker 2: on Amazon?

1884
01:29:03,320 --> 01:29:03,439
Speaker 1: Now?

1885
01:29:03,600 --> 01:29:07,160
Speaker 2: Patty our executive Patrick, are you there are?

1886
01:29:07,520 --> 01:29:07,640
Speaker 4: Oh?

1887
01:29:07,760 --> 01:29:08,360
Speaker 5: I am here?

1888
01:29:08,720 --> 01:29:11,200
Speaker 2: Could you do me a favorite one? Well, I'm talking

1889
01:29:11,240 --> 01:29:14,160
Speaker 2: to Bucket. Could you go on Amazon see if you

1890
01:29:14,200 --> 01:29:19,840
Speaker 2: could purchase a Wizinator A H Z Z I N

1891
01:29:20,000 --> 01:29:20,800
Speaker 2: A T O R.

1892
01:29:21,000 --> 01:29:23,439
Speaker 5: I'm already going on right now, okay, And.

1893
01:29:23,479 --> 01:29:24,880
Speaker 2: I do want to know how much they go. I

1894
01:29:24,920 --> 01:29:27,320
Speaker 2: wont how much is a wisdoms Oh my god, no way,

1895
01:29:28,280 --> 01:29:30,519
Speaker 2: I may buy. I may buy you one for Christmas

1896
01:29:31,880 --> 01:29:33,920
Speaker 2: for me. Yeah, well, I don't know if you.

1897
01:29:34,120 --> 01:29:37,560
Speaker 5: I mean, if you do, I mean, I'll tell you

1898
01:29:37,640 --> 01:29:40,880
Speaker 5: what I think. My athletic days are behind me now.

1899
01:29:41,320 --> 01:29:43,880
Speaker 2: But don't forget about athletic. I mean, I think it's

1900
01:29:43,880 --> 01:29:45,800
Speaker 2: a great conversation piece. You go to a bar with

1901
01:29:45,920 --> 01:29:48,160
Speaker 2: some with some buds and then you go to the toilet,

1902
01:29:48,280 --> 01:29:49,720
Speaker 2: and then when you go to the toilet, you take

1903
01:29:49,880 --> 01:29:52,000
Speaker 2: your oator. You say, what's that for? Just you know,

1904
01:29:52,080 --> 01:29:54,920
Speaker 2: it's a good conversation. It breaks the ice, that's what

1905
01:29:55,040 --> 01:29:55,280
Speaker 2: it does.

1906
01:29:55,400 --> 01:29:57,719
Speaker 5: Well, I'll tell you what as I'm literally like talking

1907
01:29:57,800 --> 01:30:00,680
Speaker 5: and looking up on Amazon right now in my computer. Uh,

1908
01:30:00,800 --> 01:30:04,400
Speaker 5: there's not nothing that is titled the Wizardator, but there

1909
01:30:04,479 --> 01:30:08,320
Speaker 5: are some test kits and even one that has like

1910
01:30:08,439 --> 01:30:11,000
Speaker 5: you know, like the bag and all that stuff on

1911
01:30:11,080 --> 01:30:15,559
Speaker 5: there doesn't say Wizinator, but pretty much the brand name.

1912
01:30:15,880 --> 01:30:18,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, that may be a brand name, Wiator.

1913
01:30:18,800 --> 01:30:20,280
Speaker 3: I would think it is a brand name.

1914
01:30:20,479 --> 01:30:22,720
Speaker 2: But they well wait a minute, how do you know,

1915
01:30:23,280 --> 01:30:25,439
Speaker 2: Wait a minute, Wait a minute, Bucket Brooks, how do

1916
01:30:25,520 --> 01:30:25,760
Speaker 2: you know?

1917
01:30:27,479 --> 01:30:31,040
Speaker 3: I mean I've heard, Hey, that's I've heard it talked

1918
01:30:31,040 --> 01:30:32,000
Speaker 3: about Bennie.

1919
01:30:32,360 --> 01:30:36,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, just checking, all right, that's so, so he's looking

1920
01:30:36,800 --> 01:30:39,640
Speaker 2: at that right now. But Jones played twelve years in

1921
01:30:39,680 --> 01:30:43,040
Speaker 2: the NFL, so he probably took a lot of drug tests. Okay, Uh,

1922
01:30:43,160 --> 01:30:46,120
Speaker 2: he never well, He did get suspended one year back

1923
01:30:46,160 --> 01:30:50,080
Speaker 2: in two thousand and seven for violating the NFL's personal

1924
01:30:50,479 --> 01:30:53,880
Speaker 2: conduct policy. All right, but he was never suspended for

1925
01:30:53,960 --> 01:30:57,559
Speaker 2: failing a drug test, even though he says he smoked

1926
01:30:57,640 --> 01:31:01,080
Speaker 2: pot throughout his career. Who cares. Come on, well, I

1927
01:31:01,120 --> 01:31:03,519
Speaker 2: guess again I do. I'm talking about it. I think

1928
01:31:03,560 --> 01:31:05,800
Speaker 2: it's interesting. I think I'm more interested not the fact

1929
01:31:05,840 --> 01:31:07,640
Speaker 2: that he smoked pot, the fact that he'd want to

1930
01:31:07,680 --> 01:31:11,920
Speaker 2: come out publicly. Put it away. Put the Wizardator away. Now.

1931
01:31:12,240 --> 01:31:14,080
Speaker 2: I know you're using it. I hear it. I know

1932
01:31:14,160 --> 01:31:17,000
Speaker 2: you're using an as disgusting. There are people eating breakfast

1933
01:31:17,040 --> 01:31:19,680
Speaker 2: as we speak, and you're doing the Wizardator deal. No,

1934
01:31:20,000 --> 01:31:21,439
Speaker 2: go to the men's room if you want to use it.

1935
01:31:22,000 --> 01:31:24,000
Speaker 2: That was you Patrick, right, Well, it.

1936
01:31:24,080 --> 01:31:24,519
Speaker 1: May have been.

1937
01:31:24,920 --> 01:31:27,000
Speaker 5: Or you can get one on Amazon, or at least

1938
01:31:27,000 --> 01:31:30,000
Speaker 5: the Wizarenator equivalent on Amazon. You can buy those. By

1939
01:31:30,000 --> 01:31:32,680
Speaker 5: the way, it's just not a Wizardator. I'm looking at

1940
01:31:32,760 --> 01:31:36,320
Speaker 5: prices of the best seller. Amazon's best seller has thirty

1941
01:31:36,360 --> 01:31:39,160
Speaker 5: five ninety nine. I'm also seeing one bit, so I'm

1942
01:31:39,200 --> 01:31:43,599
Speaker 5: seeing around the price of like the sixteen dollars twenty

1943
01:31:44,160 --> 01:31:48,000
Speaker 5: thirty five's year best value. Oh, no way, there's actually

1944
01:31:48,120 --> 01:31:51,800
Speaker 5: one that's one hundred and ninety dollars. Geez, I'm not

1945
01:31:51,880 --> 01:31:53,760
Speaker 5: spending I'm not spending one hundred ninety.

1946
01:31:54,280 --> 01:31:56,840
Speaker 2: I mean maybe Mark or Bucky knows what would the

1947
01:31:56,880 --> 01:31:59,639
Speaker 2: difference between the thirty five dollars Wisionator and one hundred

1948
01:31:59,640 --> 01:32:03,080
Speaker 2: plus dollar Wisator is more of a filter. I mean,

1949
01:32:03,160 --> 01:32:05,320
Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, I just I have no

1950
01:32:05,800 --> 01:32:10,519
Speaker 2: reason to use a Wizarinator. I don't think answer. I think,

1951
01:32:10,560 --> 01:32:12,880
Speaker 2: and I think maybe it's I know you don't want

1952
01:32:12,920 --> 01:32:14,200
Speaker 2: to talk about I guess I don't know.

1953
01:32:14,400 --> 01:32:20,160
Speaker 4: I just looks it's a funny thing, like yeah, yeah,

1954
01:32:20,200 --> 01:32:22,160
Speaker 4: I don't I don't know anything. I haven't seen anything,

1955
01:32:22,240 --> 01:32:22,559
Speaker 4: so I don't.

1956
01:32:22,560 --> 01:32:25,400
Speaker 2: Nobody wants to incriminate themselves. Now, wait a minute. You've

1957
01:32:25,439 --> 01:32:27,320
Speaker 2: been in a lot of NFL lockerrows. You tell me

1958
01:32:27,360 --> 01:32:28,760
Speaker 2: you never saw a wizarator once.

1959
01:32:31,600 --> 01:32:33,280
Speaker 3: I've never seen a person No, I've never seen a

1960
01:32:33,320 --> 01:32:34,160
Speaker 3: personally close.

1961
01:32:34,000 --> 01:32:36,320
Speaker 2: And personal note, never seen I wouldn't know what it

1962
01:32:36,360 --> 01:32:38,679
Speaker 2: looks like if you showed it to me, so really

1963
01:32:39,680 --> 01:32:42,080
Speaker 2: you could. So you're on Amazon now, do to have

1964
01:32:42,200 --> 01:32:42,720
Speaker 2: pictures of it?

1965
01:32:44,400 --> 01:32:48,200
Speaker 5: I'm on Amazon right now, it doesn't say wizinator. You

1966
01:32:48,240 --> 01:32:49,759
Speaker 5: want me to take a screenshot in Texas?

1967
01:32:50,000 --> 01:32:51,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, well you do that. Yeah, I just want to

1968
01:32:51,680 --> 01:32:52,960
Speaker 2: see what it looks like. You know why, I'm going

1969
01:32:53,000 --> 01:32:55,040
Speaker 2: to carry it around with me because if I go

1970
01:32:55,120 --> 01:32:56,920
Speaker 2: to a restaurant or a bar and I go to

1971
01:32:57,000 --> 01:32:59,760
Speaker 2: the men's room and someone may take it this. Oh you,

1972
01:33:00,000 --> 01:33:01,880
Speaker 2: I have a resonator. How do you like that? I

1973
01:33:02,840 --> 01:33:07,280
Speaker 2: would think, I Meananda Frahman is trying to beat the system. Yes, no,

1974
01:33:07,479 --> 01:33:10,639
Speaker 2: I'm not. I've beaten the system years ago, years ago.

1975
01:33:11,040 --> 01:33:15,080
Speaker 2: Really Okay, So during Adam Jones when he played the

1976
01:33:15,240 --> 01:33:17,479
Speaker 2: NFL and Bucket Noses, they had a very strict drug

1977
01:33:17,560 --> 01:33:21,760
Speaker 2: policy towards marijuana and THCHC. The player could be suspended

1978
01:33:21,880 --> 01:33:25,480
Speaker 2: four games if he failed four tests, and the suspensions

1979
01:33:25,600 --> 01:33:29,479
Speaker 2: number will go to ten games if he failed five tests.

1980
01:33:29,920 --> 01:33:33,120
Speaker 2: A player who failed six tests could face a season

1981
01:33:33,200 --> 01:33:35,720
Speaker 2: long suspension. But you don't have to worry about that now,

1982
01:33:36,840 --> 01:33:39,759
Speaker 2: good or bad. Bucket brooks that they changed it because

1983
01:33:39,800 --> 01:33:43,120
Speaker 2: now the NFL sawtened the marijuana policy in twenty twenty,

1984
01:33:44,120 --> 01:33:46,160
Speaker 2: when it was bumped up from thirty five two hundred

1985
01:33:46,200 --> 01:33:49,840
Speaker 2: and fifty nanograms per miller leader. That's what they did.

1986
01:33:50,360 --> 01:33:52,879
Speaker 2: The change was part of that new collective bargaining agreement,

1987
01:33:53,400 --> 01:33:59,560
Speaker 2: which also eliminated suspensions as a punishment for a positive THC,

1988
01:34:01,000 --> 01:34:03,759
Speaker 2: and the NFL once again updated the leagu's drug policy

1989
01:34:03,800 --> 01:34:07,200
Speaker 2: in December of twenty twenty four, and a move that

1990
01:34:07,360 --> 01:34:10,759
Speaker 2: lowered the fine amounts for first and second time offenders.

1991
01:34:11,560 --> 01:34:15,360
Speaker 2: The threshold for a failed THHD test was also bumped

1992
01:34:15,400 --> 01:34:18,559
Speaker 2: up again, going from one hundred and fifty nanograms whatever

1993
01:34:18,640 --> 01:34:20,960
Speaker 2: that is, to three fifty What's a nanogram? Do you

1994
01:34:21,040 --> 01:34:24,240
Speaker 2: know what that is? Patrick? A nanogram? I don't know

1995
01:34:24,360 --> 01:34:26,800
Speaker 2: that one day he could help me out with that

1996
01:34:26,920 --> 01:34:29,800
Speaker 2: too good or bad? Bucket Brooks that they changed their

1997
01:34:29,840 --> 01:34:32,120
Speaker 2: drug policy. You know what I think it is. I

1998
01:34:32,160 --> 01:34:34,200
Speaker 2: think there were so many players doing it that had

1999
01:34:34,240 --> 01:34:37,320
Speaker 2: to change it. Really, no one will be playing. Everybody

2000
01:34:37,400 --> 01:34:38,000
Speaker 2: be suspended.

2001
01:34:40,960 --> 01:34:43,600
Speaker 4: Well, they needed to change the policy because that is

2002
01:34:44,200 --> 01:34:46,519
Speaker 4: crazy that your wizinators and all this other stuff.

2003
01:34:46,640 --> 01:34:48,240
Speaker 3: Like I don't like what I heard from pac Man,

2004
01:34:48,520 --> 01:34:49,479
Speaker 3: even though I understood.

2005
01:34:49,560 --> 01:34:53,560
Speaker 2: I don't like it though, Yeah, well, I don't like

2006
01:34:53,640 --> 01:34:55,439
Speaker 2: the fact that he came out and talked about it.

2007
01:34:55,560 --> 01:34:55,720
Speaker 3: Now.

2008
01:34:56,840 --> 01:34:58,839
Speaker 2: I don't care that he used it, that he smoked.

2009
01:34:58,880 --> 01:35:02,360
Speaker 2: I mean, who cares because everybody was doing it? What about?

2010
01:35:03,000 --> 01:35:05,400
Speaker 2: I mean, what is the deal on the college I mean,

2011
01:35:05,439 --> 01:35:08,320
Speaker 2: I know Travis Kelcey was caught with it at the

2012
01:35:08,400 --> 01:35:10,200
Speaker 2: University of Cincinnati and they threw him off the team,

2013
01:35:10,720 --> 01:35:13,120
Speaker 2: you know, So I don't know is it a coaches deal,

2014
01:35:13,240 --> 01:35:16,519
Speaker 2: is it an NCAA situation in the college level, or

2015
01:35:16,560 --> 01:35:18,760
Speaker 2: that they loosened it up there in college too.

2016
01:35:20,920 --> 01:35:22,720
Speaker 3: I mean there's always something that she was ready to

2017
01:35:22,720 --> 01:35:24,840
Speaker 3: get around it, that's for sure.

2018
01:35:25,640 --> 01:35:28,400
Speaker 2: Really, I thought cheating on Final Champs was a big deal.

2019
01:35:28,439 --> 01:35:30,840
Speaker 2: I didn't think using a wizardator was a big deal,

2020
01:35:30,920 --> 01:35:33,360
Speaker 2: to be honest. You know, you learn something every day,

2021
01:35:33,400 --> 01:35:35,479
Speaker 2: all right, So now I know what a wizarinator is,

2022
01:35:35,760 --> 01:35:38,080
Speaker 2: and so do you, Patrick, Right, you now know what

2023
01:35:38,160 --> 01:35:38,920
Speaker 2: a wizitator is.

2024
01:35:39,200 --> 01:35:40,080
Speaker 3: I do now know.

2025
01:35:41,000 --> 01:35:44,360
Speaker 2: And here's the good news. If you should receive a

2026
01:35:44,560 --> 01:35:48,720
Speaker 2: box in the mail, maybe for a present, you know,

2027
01:35:49,240 --> 01:35:50,720
Speaker 2: and you open it up, you don't have to say,

2028
01:35:50,760 --> 01:35:52,639
Speaker 2: what the hell is this? You'll know what's a wizinator.

2029
01:35:52,800 --> 01:35:54,439
Speaker 5: I mean, my birthday is coming up, and.

2030
01:35:56,680 --> 01:35:58,320
Speaker 2: You never know, it could be an this is a

2031
01:35:58,360 --> 01:35:59,719
Speaker 2: great April Fools present.

2032
01:36:01,880 --> 01:36:03,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's true.

2033
01:36:03,920 --> 01:36:07,040
Speaker 2: Bucky. What if I I shipped an Amazon originated to

2034
01:36:07,160 --> 01:36:10,519
Speaker 2: your home? Would would that cause a ruckus? I mean,

2035
01:36:11,360 --> 01:36:12,960
Speaker 2: you know, your wife is there, you open up the

2036
01:36:13,040 --> 01:36:15,320
Speaker 2: box and she's going to scream or something. I just

2037
01:36:15,520 --> 01:36:17,840
Speaker 2: just just stir up a little bit. Would that be

2038
01:36:17,920 --> 01:36:20,519
Speaker 2: a bad thing? No?

2039
01:36:22,800 --> 01:36:25,800
Speaker 3: No, no, no, I mean I just I just look.

2040
01:36:26,439 --> 01:36:29,760
Speaker 3: I think we're dancing on a line where you're trying

2041
01:36:29,800 --> 01:36:31,559
Speaker 3: to protect some old players.

2042
01:36:31,640 --> 01:36:34,160
Speaker 4: But yeah, like, look, here's the thing. Sometimes you have

2043
01:36:34,240 --> 01:36:36,040
Speaker 4: to do what you have to do to move beyond it.

2044
01:36:36,240 --> 01:36:38,200
Speaker 4: I still go all the way back to the original

2045
01:36:38,280 --> 01:36:41,240
Speaker 4: thing with Pack. I don't know why he decided to

2046
01:36:41,320 --> 01:36:43,920
Speaker 4: share a decade later, but he did, and they cast

2047
01:36:43,960 --> 01:36:45,599
Speaker 4: a light on all these new players.

2048
01:36:45,680 --> 01:36:48,639
Speaker 3: What are they doing to beat the system? In those things?

2049
01:36:49,200 --> 01:36:51,320
Speaker 2: Did you know him at all? Did you get to

2050
01:36:51,400 --> 01:36:52,439
Speaker 2: know pac Man Jones?

2051
01:36:53,479 --> 01:36:55,679
Speaker 3: I did I get a chance to interview with stuff

2052
01:36:55,680 --> 01:36:56,280
Speaker 3: when it's coming out.

2053
01:36:56,320 --> 01:37:00,519
Speaker 4: I will say, for all the thembastic that takes whatever, like,

2054
01:37:00,640 --> 01:37:03,800
Speaker 4: I'm really proud of him in terms of how he

2055
01:37:03,920 --> 01:37:06,040
Speaker 4: turned everything around. You think about how he was just

2056
01:37:07,000 --> 01:37:11,120
Speaker 4: consistently and routinely in the paper for headline after headline

2057
01:37:11,120 --> 01:37:14,120
Speaker 4: after headline, none of which was positive. Then he goes

2058
01:37:14,280 --> 01:37:17,120
Speaker 4: and he's been a model citizen and just continues to

2059
01:37:18,920 --> 01:37:22,800
Speaker 4: kind of rewrite his own story. So it's a great read,

2060
01:37:22,920 --> 01:37:27,240
Speaker 4: it's a great thing to look at. But yeah, it's crazy,

2061
01:37:27,360 --> 01:37:28,960
Speaker 4: one of the more crazy stories I've been around.

2062
01:37:29,240 --> 01:37:33,320
Speaker 2: I understand. I mean, these guys have so much testosterone

2063
01:37:33,360 --> 01:37:36,240
Speaker 2: built up. They really do. I mean, you play football.

2064
01:37:36,479 --> 01:37:39,360
Speaker 2: It's a mean sport, it really is. It's a war,

2065
01:37:39,520 --> 01:37:42,040
Speaker 2: it's a battle. I mean, you want to beat up

2066
01:37:42,120 --> 01:37:43,879
Speaker 2: on the guy on the other side of the scrimmage,

2067
01:37:43,960 --> 01:37:46,559
Speaker 2: like you really do. And I guess during the off

2068
01:37:46,640 --> 01:37:50,800
Speaker 2: season you still have that testosterone in your system and

2069
01:37:50,960 --> 01:37:53,720
Speaker 2: some people don't have a way to release it. I

2070
01:37:53,840 --> 01:37:57,040
Speaker 2: know when pac Man he went to a casino in

2071
01:37:57,160 --> 01:37:59,360
Speaker 2: the Cincinnati region right a year or so ago, when

2072
01:37:59,400 --> 01:38:01,479
Speaker 2: he got into a fight with the security guard there.

2073
01:38:01,840 --> 01:38:04,920
Speaker 2: You gotta do a lot of stupid things, really nothing

2074
01:38:05,040 --> 01:38:07,240
Speaker 2: really bad, like you never held up a bank, but

2075
01:38:07,320 --> 01:38:10,560
Speaker 2: there was always stupid things. That's the problem. And I

2076
01:38:10,640 --> 01:38:15,840
Speaker 2: think that is it runs consistently with some players in

2077
01:38:15,880 --> 01:38:18,639
Speaker 2: the National Football League because of the type of game

2078
01:38:18,720 --> 01:38:21,840
Speaker 2: they play. Don't you agree, I mean, you do see

2079
01:38:22,520 --> 01:38:24,599
Speaker 2: the time with basketball and baseball, but not as much

2080
01:38:25,000 --> 01:38:27,960
Speaker 2: because I think that the built up hate and the

2081
01:38:28,200 --> 01:38:30,880
Speaker 2: hitting and just you want to get somebody, you want

2082
01:38:30,960 --> 01:38:33,920
Speaker 2: to just take their head off. And when the season's over,

2083
01:38:34,439 --> 01:38:36,560
Speaker 2: you still have that built up inside you.

2084
01:38:38,439 --> 01:38:40,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, it still it never goes away, and you

2085
01:38:40,360 --> 01:38:43,200
Speaker 4: look at some sip place that and more important that

2086
01:38:43,240 --> 01:38:45,200
Speaker 4: you look for something to give you that same high.

2087
01:38:45,800 --> 01:38:47,960
Speaker 4: You know, there's nothing used to hire that game. They

2088
01:38:48,160 --> 01:38:53,120
Speaker 4: feel that you love that you embrace on way to say,

2089
01:38:53,160 --> 01:38:58,559
Speaker 4: and there's nothing that does it. It's one of those

2090
01:38:58,600 --> 01:39:02,160
Speaker 4: things where as much as people say they love the game,

2091
01:39:02,240 --> 01:39:04,800
Speaker 4: you truly love the game. The game becomes almost like

2092
01:39:04,920 --> 01:39:07,600
Speaker 4: one of your kids, but maybe your favorite kid, you know,

2093
01:39:07,760 --> 01:39:10,000
Speaker 4: in terms of like what you do for how much

2094
01:39:10,040 --> 01:39:13,559
Speaker 4: you devote to it, the commitment, earning, gets trust and respect,

2095
01:39:13,720 --> 01:39:14,479
Speaker 4: all of that stuff.

2096
01:39:15,000 --> 01:39:18,040
Speaker 3: It's to your life, you know.

2097
01:39:18,400 --> 01:39:22,000
Speaker 2: And I would think that guys who play the line,

2098
01:39:22,040 --> 01:39:24,080
Speaker 2: the lineman, I think more than anybody else. I mean,

2099
01:39:24,560 --> 01:39:27,800
Speaker 2: you play sixteen. I mean it's hard for the average guy.

2100
01:39:27,920 --> 01:39:30,320
Speaker 2: It's hard for a person like me to realize. And

2101
01:39:30,640 --> 01:39:34,160
Speaker 2: I've seen football games, NFL games on the sideline. You

2102
01:39:34,400 --> 01:39:37,400
Speaker 2: hear that crunch. It's like two trucks hitting each other

2103
01:39:37,720 --> 01:39:39,920
Speaker 2: it really is. I mean you have to hear this sound.

2104
01:39:39,920 --> 01:39:42,200
Speaker 2: If you watch HBO Hard Knocks, you kind of get

2105
01:39:42,240 --> 01:39:44,719
Speaker 2: a good picture of it because they have great sound

2106
01:39:44,840 --> 01:39:47,720
Speaker 2: on those shows. They really do. But you get two

2107
01:39:47,800 --> 01:39:50,200
Speaker 2: guys hitting each other like that, you know, and then

2108
01:39:50,200 --> 01:39:53,200
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, when the season's over, that goes away.

2109
01:39:53,680 --> 01:39:58,160
Speaker 2: I still believe you want to hit somebody. I sound stupid,

2110
01:39:58,200 --> 01:39:59,280
Speaker 2: but I still believe you do.

2111
01:40:00,439 --> 01:40:02,559
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean at the heart of it is blood sport,

2112
01:40:02,720 --> 01:40:05,360
Speaker 3: Like you live for that part of it. You live for.

2113
01:40:07,200 --> 01:40:09,720
Speaker 4: Doing all kinds of stuff when it comes to that,

2114
01:40:10,000 --> 01:40:12,559
Speaker 4: and it's hard to find an outline. It's an outlet

2115
01:40:12,960 --> 01:40:17,000
Speaker 4: to channel all that extra testosterone in those things. Well,

2116
01:40:17,040 --> 01:40:19,439
Speaker 4: imagine being a former player now you don't even have

2117
01:40:19,479 --> 01:40:21,320
Speaker 4: the facility to go to like you got to figure

2118
01:40:21,360 --> 01:40:23,479
Speaker 4: that all that stuff out on your own. That's why

2119
01:40:23,560 --> 01:40:25,640
Speaker 4: so many guys struggle when they're first out, because you

2120
01:40:26,360 --> 01:40:27,439
Speaker 4: don't have any guidance.

2121
01:40:27,479 --> 01:40:29,519
Speaker 3: You just are just wallowing in this.

2122
01:40:32,720 --> 01:40:35,000
Speaker 2: I would think a team should have like a director

2123
01:40:35,120 --> 01:40:40,160
Speaker 2: of like off season activities to take these players. I

2124
01:40:40,200 --> 01:40:42,200
Speaker 2: know it's difficult with the guys that spread out and

2125
01:40:42,240 --> 01:40:44,559
Speaker 2: they go to their homes in all parts of the country,

2126
01:40:44,640 --> 01:40:48,040
Speaker 2: but a director of preseason activities where they could give

2127
01:40:48,080 --> 01:40:51,560
Speaker 2: you a list of what they should be doing in

2128
01:40:51,640 --> 01:40:55,000
Speaker 2: the off season to either a stay out of trouble

2129
01:40:55,120 --> 01:40:59,479
Speaker 2: or kind of take that hate not hate, but that

2130
01:40:59,680 --> 01:41:03,320
Speaker 2: built up testosterone and put it in a positive manner

2131
01:41:03,360 --> 01:41:05,439
Speaker 2: if you can. I don't know if teams. Do teams

2132
01:41:05,520 --> 01:41:09,320
Speaker 2: have that, like a director of like social activities, of

2133
01:41:10,240 --> 01:41:14,280
Speaker 2: postseason stress, whatever it may be. I don't know. They

2134
01:41:14,320 --> 01:41:15,400
Speaker 2: should have someone like that.

2135
01:41:17,080 --> 01:41:19,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, it should. Absolutely. It's one of those things that

2136
01:41:19,840 --> 01:41:21,439
Speaker 3: you want to make sure that you have it.

2137
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Speaker 4: We talked about the testosterone, We talked about trying to

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Speaker 4: when you just think about just the challenges and I

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Speaker 4: can't say this enough, the challenges that you phase transitioning

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Speaker 4: from one phase of your life to another phase, it's hard.

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Speaker 3: Everyone goes through it.

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Speaker 4: Whether you're a regular college student that goes from high

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Speaker 4: all this other stuff like it is a challenge trying

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Speaker 2: You're exactly right. That's why we take it easy on

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Speaker 2: this show. We don't want it to over consume us.

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Speaker 2: the wonderful iHeartRadio app. And we're going to tell you

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Speaker 2: what these teams really need.

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Speaker 3: That's next.

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Speaker 2: Okay, there's at least three teams that need the same thing.

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Speaker 2: We'll explain that in just a few minutes. Okay, and

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Speaker 2: we'll do that with Bucky Brooks. I'm Andy Furman and

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Speaker 2: we're live from the ti Raq dot com studios. We've

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Speaker 2: got the blame game in about twelve minutes from now,

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Speaker 2: Bucky Brooks, are you ready? We've got free agency? Are

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Speaker 2: you excited about free agency?

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Speaker 3: Is that a big yeah? No, I'm excited about it.

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Speaker 4: So on NFL Network starting tomorrow, like we have free

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Speaker 4: Agency Frenzy, which is we're gonna look at all the

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01:43:31,560 --> 01:43:34,560
Speaker 4: pre negotiated transactions, talk about all the players and so

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01:43:34,680 --> 01:43:35,960
Speaker 4: you can get excited.

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Speaker 2: Just think you're gonna be on tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: What could be?

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Speaker 2: Yes, I'll be watching. Could you give me like a

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01:43:42,080 --> 01:43:45,120
Speaker 2: hand sitting like a wave like Carol Burnett used to do,

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Speaker 2: like with a mom, you know, could you give me

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Speaker 2: a little like a wink or something so I'll know

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Speaker 2: it's me, you'll know you're.

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Speaker 3: Doing You're right, Thank you.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate that. That'll be wonderful. Okay, we've got three team.

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Speaker 2: I think there's at least three teams that really need something,

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01:44:00,960 --> 01:44:03,040
Speaker 2: and it's basically the same thing. And I want to

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Speaker 2: start with the number one draft selected, the Tennessee Titans.

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Speaker 2: All right, they got the number one pick. They were

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Speaker 2: three and fourteen last year. So when you got to

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Speaker 2: think about it, they kind of need a lot. We

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Speaker 2: have three and fourteen. You don't just need one thing.

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Speaker 2: I think you need an overhaul. Really, three and fourteen

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Speaker 2: they need a lot. But I think they kind of

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01:44:20,960 --> 01:44:24,880
Speaker 2: set at running back and cornerback. I would think, all right,

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Speaker 2: so what are you looking at quarterback? When you talk

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01:44:27,560 --> 01:44:30,160
Speaker 2: about quarterback, you gotta also look at the offensive line.

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Speaker 2: You got to protect the quarterback. What do they do

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01:44:32,479 --> 01:44:34,880
Speaker 2: cam Ward should do? Or Sanders? What do you think?

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Speaker 2: Or maybe a veteran free agent for quarterback? I don't know. Well,

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Speaker 2: maybe they get the draft the quarterback and also got

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Speaker 2: a quarterback out of free agency to do both. So

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Speaker 2: what do you think is gonna happen with Tennessee?

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Speaker 3: So for Tennessee, there are a lot of different things

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Speaker 3: in play.

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Speaker 4: I would like the think that they find a pass

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Speaker 4: rusher early in the draft, find a veteran to man

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Speaker 4: the position until they improve all the pieces of around

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Speaker 4: the quarterback right now, if they don't feel great about

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Speaker 4: any of the quarterbacks at the top, see if you

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Speaker 4: can trade down a little bit, gets more picks, and

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Speaker 4: then kind of build it by building the defense up first.

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Speaker 2: Okay, if you're a Tennessee and you ever say so

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Speaker 2: on the draft, and I guess there's a committee or

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Speaker 2: a group all the coaches, the coaches are involved. There's

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Speaker 2: just personnel and scouts and GM are coaches involved in that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, coaching, everybody's involved because the coaches have to coach

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01:45:25,920 --> 01:45:27,320
Speaker 4: them so that you want to get their input.

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Speaker 2: So if I'm a line coach, if I'm a defensive

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Speaker 2: back coach, I guess I do I attend the meeting

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Speaker 2: or I just tell them, look, I want this guy

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Speaker 2: I want I mean obviously want something for your own area,

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Speaker 2: for your your deal that you coach. But if you're

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Speaker 2: a Tennessee right now making that final pick, whoever makes

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Speaker 2: the pick, is it a vote or to or one

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Speaker 2: guy makes the pick? Say so?

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Speaker 3: It depends. Everyone can voice their opinion to the one

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01:45:54,800 --> 01:45:56,080
Speaker 3: guy will kind of make notes.

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Speaker 2: So so if I'm Tennessee, is it cam Ward or

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Speaker 2: should do Sanders? If they're going for a quarterback, and

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Speaker 2: tell me why you pick one over the other. I

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Speaker 2: would go with Schauduur for for several reasons, including the

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Speaker 2: fact that it's a good ticket box office guy. Because

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01:46:16,760 --> 01:46:20,120
Speaker 2: he's got he's got the hype. He's got the hype Colorado.

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01:46:20,240 --> 01:46:22,360
Speaker 2: His dad Deon Deon Pace show up to a game

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Speaker 2: or two. So I think I think he he he

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01:46:26,000 --> 01:46:28,800
Speaker 2: offers you more. He could run the football. He may

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Speaker 2: not be the passer that cam Ward is. But I

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Speaker 2: go with Shadoor. What do you go with? H Nothing.

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Speaker 2: I don't hear you.

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Speaker 3: Now, you don't hear me. No, they repeat it because

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Speaker 3: I was just talking.

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Speaker 5: Repeat it.

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Speaker 2: No, you're a Tennessee You're in the war room.

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Speaker 4: So if I if I'm in there, So, if if

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Speaker 4: I'm in Tennessee Titans, we're at the top of the board.

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Speaker 4: I'm looking and assessing what we have. The draft is

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Speaker 4: strong at pass rushing. We just let Harold Landry go.

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Speaker 4: We want more pass rush because we got to win

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01:47:02,160 --> 01:47:03,599
Speaker 4: out of vision, so that means we got to knock

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Speaker 4: off CJ.

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Speaker 3: Stroud.

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Speaker 4: So I could take Abdul Carter if the injury checks out,

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Speaker 4: take him at number one, sign another one in free agency,

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Speaker 4: and then try and find my veteran free agent quarterback

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Speaker 4: to help me go along the way.

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Speaker 3: It could be Aaron Rodgers, it could be Russell Wilson.

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Speaker 3: I just need a grown up in the room. I

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01:47:19,760 --> 01:47:20,479
Speaker 3: feel good.

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Speaker 4: Enough about the weapons and the firepower that we have.

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Speaker 4: We can run it, we can do those things. I

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Speaker 4: need someone that can manage it. So that's why to

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Speaker 4: be a veteran, not one of the rookies coming in

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Speaker 4: abdual Carter number one overall from Penn State, to help

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Speaker 4: us get this team up and going.

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Speaker 2: So you're telling me, if you have the first pick,

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Speaker 2: you're not gonna go for either cam Ward or Shad

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Speaker 2: or Sanders.

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Speaker 3: You're not going to court to one of them.

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Speaker 4: No, I'm not gonna take you to one of them.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna take the pass rusher and see if I

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Speaker 4: can get my veteran. Because remember I'm Brian Callahan. They

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Speaker 4: fired my general manager who hired me. They fired him

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Speaker 4: last year. I don't have time to wait on a

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01:47:53,840 --> 01:47:56,560
Speaker 4: young player to play through those mistakes. We need to

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Speaker 4: get to winning and get to winning in a hurry.

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Speaker 4: And I just know given that, yeah, they don't. They

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01:48:03,479 --> 01:48:04,840
Speaker 4: have to go and they got to be aggressive and

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01:48:04,920 --> 01:48:06,479
Speaker 4: have to be aggressive in how they build a team.

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Speaker 2: Okay, nope, I hear. I'm running this down. I'm keeping

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Speaker 2: this him, putting it in my safe. Okay, Now, they

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01:48:12,560 --> 01:48:14,320
Speaker 2: were three and fourteen, But there's another team that was

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Speaker 2: three and fourteen that's the number three pick, and that's

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Speaker 2: the New York Football Giants. And the sad thing about

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01:48:19,360 --> 01:48:22,599
Speaker 2: the Giants they do have one quarterback on the roster

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Speaker 2: right now. They just signed Tommy DeVito. I mean really,

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Speaker 2: I mean the only thing that he may be good

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01:48:29,560 --> 01:48:31,680
Speaker 2: for is being a tackling dummy. You're not going to

2297
01:48:31,720 --> 01:48:34,040
Speaker 2: win anything with Tommy DeVito. Do you agree with me?

2298
01:48:34,160 --> 01:48:35,360
Speaker 2: I hate to talk about that.

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01:48:35,840 --> 01:48:38,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I mean I'm with you. I'm with you

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Speaker 3: on that.

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Speaker 4: Like, Tommy DeVito has a limited shelf life. Like he's

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Speaker 4: a backup quarterback. He's a QB two at best. You

2303
01:48:44,000 --> 01:48:48,000
Speaker 4: can use him in a pinch to complete a game,

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01:48:48,280 --> 01:48:50,200
Speaker 4: maybe start a game or two, but you don't want

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Speaker 4: this to be your guy that has to play for

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01:48:51,800 --> 01:48:56,839
Speaker 4: a long term. Tommy DeVito has shown spunk and moxie

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Speaker 4: and all those things. That's why he's a fan favorite.

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01:48:58,640 --> 01:48:59,880
Speaker 4: But we need to keep him where he is.

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Speaker 2: He signed a one year deal for one point zero

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01:49:05,240 --> 01:49:08,840
Speaker 2: three million dollars, which is the minimum salary for a

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01:49:08,960 --> 01:49:12,719
Speaker 2: player with his experience, no guaranteed money, which he shouldn't

2312
01:49:12,720 --> 01:49:15,640
Speaker 2: get the guaranteed money. You would think the Giants are

2313
01:49:15,720 --> 01:49:18,360
Speaker 2: expected to maybe get a veteran and free agency and

2314
01:49:18,439 --> 01:49:20,400
Speaker 2: they could get a rookie quarterback on the draft. But

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01:49:20,479 --> 01:49:23,280
Speaker 2: the rumors have it and they're floating pretty strongly now

2316
01:49:23,640 --> 01:49:26,160
Speaker 2: that it could be Aaron Rodgers going up to the

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Speaker 2: New York Football Giants. That to me would be almost

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01:49:30,560 --> 01:49:34,040
Speaker 2: as as a mistake as letting Saquon Barkley go.

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Speaker 3: H Yeah, it's a huge misay. They should never let

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Speaker 3: him go.

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Speaker 4: It was obvious and when it went on the show

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01:49:41,920 --> 01:49:44,160
Speaker 4: Hard Knocks and everyone saw it, it was a death

2323
01:49:44,240 --> 01:49:46,320
Speaker 4: knill and it's one of those things that, man, it's

2324
01:49:46,400 --> 01:49:49,240
Speaker 4: hard to see how Brian dave Ball and Joe Shane

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Speaker 4: bounce back from that.

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Speaker 3: They got to crush it this year.

2327
01:49:51,400 --> 01:49:53,320
Speaker 4: And when I mean crush it, they not only got

2328
01:49:53,360 --> 01:49:54,960
Speaker 4: to build a winning product, but they got to field

2329
01:49:54,960 --> 01:49:57,120
Speaker 4: the championship caliber team, a team they can go deep.

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Speaker 3: Every Giants fan was.

2331
01:50:00,120 --> 01:50:03,920
Speaker 4: Naxis watching the Super Bowl, watching Saquon Barkley go crazy

2332
01:50:04,040 --> 01:50:07,800
Speaker 4: throughout the postseason, and this is exactly what Willington Marrick

2333
01:50:07,960 --> 01:50:09,080
Speaker 4: warned them about.

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01:50:09,120 --> 01:50:10,639
Speaker 3: Man, he's the best player for sure.

2335
01:50:11,160 --> 01:50:15,880
Speaker 4: So now that we've seen Saquon go and and and

2336
01:50:15,960 --> 01:50:18,040
Speaker 4: showcase his talents, you got to find another one.

2337
01:50:18,120 --> 01:50:20,320
Speaker 3: So the person's on them to be in the player.

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01:50:20,720 --> 01:50:23,519
Speaker 2: And Marra and hard knocks. Marra wanted it. That was

2339
01:50:23,560 --> 01:50:25,880
Speaker 2: his guy. Sak Al was his guy, and he kind

2340
01:50:25,920 --> 01:50:28,240
Speaker 2: of leaned towards his GM saying, well, and I think

2341
01:50:28,280 --> 01:50:30,960
Speaker 2: we should keep him. And still he let him go.

2342
01:50:31,800 --> 01:50:35,000
Speaker 2: I'm surprised that the GM kept his job. I'm surprised

2343
01:50:35,080 --> 01:50:37,640
Speaker 2: he wasn't canned. I really, I really am you know that.

2344
01:50:38,080 --> 01:50:40,160
Speaker 2: I think this is his year. You don't get in

2345
01:50:40,200 --> 01:50:42,479
Speaker 2: the playoffs, He's gone, don't you think.

2346
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Speaker 3: I mean, they're a very patient team.

2347
01:50:44,479 --> 01:50:47,160
Speaker 4: But if you go back, like, look, man, I just

2348
01:50:47,240 --> 01:50:50,080
Speaker 4: think about David Shuley got all the years of his deal.

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01:50:51,000 --> 01:50:53,559
Speaker 3: Mike Brown does not like to pay coaches for not working.

2350
01:50:53,840 --> 01:50:54,960
Speaker 3: That is part of the deal.

2351
01:50:55,080 --> 01:50:56,800
Speaker 4: When you're when you're being you're gonna be a being

2352
01:50:56,920 --> 01:50:59,360
Speaker 4: for life until the end of the contract. So, uh,

2353
01:50:59,640 --> 01:51:02,080
Speaker 4: you can ever complain about not having enough time to

2354
01:51:02,240 --> 01:51:03,120
Speaker 4: build your plan.

2355
01:51:03,800 --> 01:51:04,320
Speaker 3: That's not it.

2356
01:51:05,240 --> 01:51:07,439
Speaker 2: Oh, you're right about that. So we go cross town

2357
01:51:07,960 --> 01:51:10,920
Speaker 2: to the New York Jets. New York Jets. Right now,

2358
01:51:11,280 --> 01:51:13,880
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers, they say, we don't want you. He's out.

2359
01:51:14,240 --> 01:51:16,960
Speaker 2: So is Tyra Taylor at the quarterback. He's got to

2360
01:51:17,000 --> 01:51:19,920
Speaker 2: be a stopgap quarterback. He may start twenty twenty five.

2361
01:51:20,000 --> 01:51:23,920
Speaker 2: I doubt it, but he's not your future. So they

2362
01:51:24,000 --> 01:51:25,920
Speaker 2: need a lot, they need a wide receiver, they need

2363
01:51:26,000 --> 01:51:29,760
Speaker 2: a quarterback, maybe a defensive tackle, so I could see

2364
01:51:29,840 --> 01:51:33,160
Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins or maybe even Derek Carr. Maybe Derek Carr.

2365
01:51:33,200 --> 01:51:35,560
Speaker 2: We haven't talked about Derek Carr. He's a possibility, I

2366
01:51:35,600 --> 01:51:38,360
Speaker 2: think one of the Jets. And obviously also Justin Fields.

2367
01:51:40,840 --> 01:51:41,040
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2368
01:51:41,120 --> 01:51:42,479
Speaker 4: When I look at the Jets and I look at

2369
01:51:42,479 --> 01:51:44,639
Speaker 4: all the things that they need, they want to play

2370
01:51:44,680 --> 01:51:47,120
Speaker 4: great defense, they want to control it on offense. That's

2371
01:51:47,160 --> 01:51:48,880
Speaker 4: something that Aaron Glan wants to do. Coming from his

2372
01:51:48,960 --> 01:51:52,120
Speaker 4: defensive background. Justin Fields is the perfect fit. You get

2373
01:51:52,160 --> 01:51:55,120
Speaker 4: the plus one in the run game because the quarterback

2374
01:51:55,200 --> 01:51:58,800
Speaker 4: is a runner as one and it evens out the game.

2375
01:51:59,240 --> 01:52:00,280
Speaker 3: Defensive coach have.

2376
01:52:00,320 --> 01:52:03,160
Speaker 4: A great appreciation for the look at the mobile playmakers

2377
01:52:03,200 --> 01:52:06,320
Speaker 4: around the league, at quarterback, anywhere. Their coaches all for

2378
01:52:06,400 --> 01:52:09,400
Speaker 4: the defensive side of the ball. It makes sense to

2379
01:52:09,560 --> 01:52:12,320
Speaker 4: me for them to go for that. The Jets have

2380
01:52:12,400 --> 01:52:14,200
Speaker 4: a lot of things going, but they feel like they

2381
01:52:14,280 --> 01:52:17,160
Speaker 4: have a seemingly good culture around them. I think this

2382
01:52:17,280 --> 01:52:19,320
Speaker 4: team that rolls up to sleeves to go to work

2383
01:52:19,360 --> 01:52:21,320
Speaker 4: and they find a way to get it done. And

2384
01:52:21,360 --> 01:52:23,559
Speaker 4: the only way the Jets can get it done flipping

2385
01:52:23,600 --> 01:52:25,760
Speaker 4: their identity to a defensive amount of team with a

2386
01:52:25,920 --> 01:52:30,040
Speaker 4: young athletic running quarterback lead the way in justin fields.

2387
01:52:30,479 --> 01:52:32,160
Speaker 2: All right, I want to do one more I want

2388
01:52:32,200 --> 01:52:33,840
Speaker 2: to squeeze it one more team, and that's going to

2389
01:52:33,880 --> 01:52:36,160
Speaker 2: be your team right there, because I want to help

2390
01:52:36,200 --> 01:52:38,160
Speaker 2: you a little bit. You know, I'm on the outside

2391
01:52:38,200 --> 01:52:40,080
Speaker 2: looking in and you're you're a guy that works for

2392
01:52:40,120 --> 01:52:43,400
Speaker 2: the Jacksonville Jaguars. But still in all, I'm a fan

2393
01:52:43,760 --> 01:52:45,280
Speaker 2: and I'm looking at them, and I think the one

2394
01:52:45,320 --> 01:52:47,360
Speaker 2: thing they need to do in the draft, they got

2395
01:52:47,439 --> 01:52:51,360
Speaker 2: to strengthen that offensive line, and they need on that line,

2396
01:52:51,400 --> 01:52:54,760
Speaker 2: they need a left tackle badly agreed. I mean, maybe

2397
01:52:55,280 --> 01:52:57,360
Speaker 2: I'm you're there, you work for them, you know what's

2398
01:52:57,360 --> 01:52:59,920
Speaker 2: going on, trying to help you a little bit, you know, really.

2399
01:53:00,120 --> 01:53:02,240
Speaker 4: I mean, I mean, I appreciate the help, but yeah,

2400
01:53:02,280 --> 01:53:03,720
Speaker 4: they need they need all of that. But this is

2401
01:53:03,760 --> 01:53:07,160
Speaker 4: a complete culture reset. And when you're resetting the culture,

2402
01:53:07,280 --> 01:53:10,320
Speaker 4: there are some things that you do that are unpopular.

2403
01:53:10,520 --> 01:53:14,040
Speaker 4: Like one, you release two really good players Chris Evan Ingram.

2404
01:53:14,600 --> 01:53:16,360
Speaker 4: Now you got to figure out a way to kind

2405
01:53:16,400 --> 01:53:18,680
Speaker 4: of get this thing going and you got to get

2406
01:53:18,680 --> 01:53:19,120
Speaker 4: it popping.

2407
01:53:19,200 --> 01:53:20,640
Speaker 3: But everyone is.

2408
01:53:20,680 --> 01:53:22,839
Speaker 4: Going to look to the Philadre for Eagles for the blueprint,

2409
01:53:22,960 --> 01:53:25,519
Speaker 4: and a blueprint at a successful time or time is

2410
01:53:25,920 --> 01:53:29,960
Speaker 4: building up the trenches offensive and defensive lineman early in

2411
01:53:30,080 --> 01:53:32,400
Speaker 4: the draft, because if you hit big ones, big ones

2412
01:53:32,479 --> 01:53:34,680
Speaker 4: each and every year, big ones, it gives you a

2413
01:53:34,800 --> 01:53:36,880
Speaker 4: chance to build depth, It gives you a chance to

2414
01:53:36,880 --> 01:53:39,360
Speaker 4: play big boy ball whenever you want to, and it

2415
01:53:39,479 --> 01:53:41,599
Speaker 4: minimizes maybe some of the need to have these.

2416
01:53:41,560 --> 01:53:46,800
Speaker 3: Explosive options on the perimeter. So I re commit to

2417
01:53:47,080 --> 01:53:51,320
Speaker 3: We're gonna draft high and heavy, big guys, them high

2418
01:53:51,360 --> 01:53:52,200
Speaker 3: because they're talented.

2419
01:53:52,520 --> 01:53:54,120
Speaker 2: You got the fifth pick of the draft, so you

2420
01:53:54,200 --> 01:53:56,320
Speaker 2: have a pretty good chance to get the first offensive

2421
01:53:56,360 --> 01:53:58,759
Speaker 2: lineman off the board, right, I would think.

2422
01:53:59,439 --> 01:54:02,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, you get first one and we'll see how they

2423
01:54:02,960 --> 01:54:04,360
Speaker 3: We definitely an't getting.

2424
01:54:04,120 --> 01:54:04,519
Speaker 5: On to the war.

2425
01:54:05,040 --> 01:54:08,040
Speaker 2: There we go, all right, I want to roll into, uh,

2426
01:54:08,600 --> 01:54:10,600
Speaker 2: the blame game. So after the playing game, you can

2427
01:54:10,680 --> 01:54:13,559
Speaker 2: go back to bed. How's that take a little nap

2428
01:54:14,200 --> 01:54:16,760
Speaker 2: because you gotta get ready for TV. I don't know,

2429
01:54:16,800 --> 01:54:18,720
Speaker 2: it's going to be wide away for TV for the

2430
01:54:19,040 --> 01:54:19,839
Speaker 2: NFL network.

2431
01:54:20,680 --> 01:54:25,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, not today, but tomorrow still, yeah, yeah, tomorrow happened.

2432
01:54:25,920 --> 01:54:28,200
Speaker 2: I'll be watching you know better than that. He's Bucking

2433
01:54:28,240 --> 01:54:30,719
Speaker 2: Brookes on Indy Firm and we have Fox Sports Sunday

2434
01:54:31,160 --> 01:54:33,800
Speaker 2: A Fox Sport's ready on us. Time to point those fingers.

2435
01:54:34,080 --> 01:54:37,440
Speaker 2: Why the playing game is freaking next? All right, the

2436
01:54:37,560 --> 01:54:41,160
Speaker 2: Blame Game in about thirty seconds from now, about twelve

2437
01:54:41,160 --> 01:54:42,640
Speaker 2: minutes nap before the top of the hour. That will

2438
01:54:42,640 --> 01:54:45,480
Speaker 2: be nine am Eastern. And of course we got the

2439
01:54:46,200 --> 01:54:50,000
Speaker 2: great show of the Trio coming down to the countdown

2440
01:54:50,080 --> 01:54:52,440
Speaker 2: show coming up at nine am Eastern. But right now

2441
01:54:52,920 --> 01:54:56,960
Speaker 2: it's time for the playing game. It's all your fault.

2442
01:54:57,680 --> 01:55:04,960
Speaker 2: It's your fault, all your maybe it's everyone's fault.

2443
01:55:06,120 --> 01:55:08,680
Speaker 1: See the liar. That's why there's the blame game.

2444
01:55:08,760 --> 01:55:09,400
Speaker 2: The blame game.

2445
01:55:09,520 --> 01:55:10,400
Speaker 1: Let's figure out.

2446
01:55:10,360 --> 01:55:12,840
Speaker 2: Who to blame. Oh, the blame game. Yeah, all right,

2447
01:55:12,880 --> 01:55:14,600
Speaker 2: my life at the tire rack dot Com studio. And

2448
01:55:14,640 --> 01:55:16,160
Speaker 2: the man we want to blame all the time is

2449
01:55:16,240 --> 01:55:19,640
Speaker 2: our guy, Patty, our executive producer. Take it away, Patty.

2450
01:55:19,800 --> 01:55:22,280
Speaker 5: All right, Andy, why blame you for this? It's the

2451
01:55:22,320 --> 01:55:26,040
Speaker 5: blame game, everybody. Well, let's get started here. So MLB

2452
01:55:26,200 --> 01:55:29,960
Speaker 5: has seen their pitchers hit the DL or recently.

2453
01:55:30,320 --> 01:55:31,120
Speaker 2: Who do you blame?

2454
01:55:31,280 --> 01:55:31,640
Speaker 5: Andy?

2455
01:55:32,640 --> 01:55:35,640
Speaker 2: You know what I used to blame. I used to

2456
01:55:35,760 --> 01:55:38,440
Speaker 2: blame the contracts because they didn't want pitchers to pitch

2457
01:55:38,480 --> 01:55:40,840
Speaker 2: more than four or five innings. Really, and there are

2458
01:55:40,880 --> 01:55:42,320
Speaker 2: friend goes the amount of the money they make, and

2459
01:55:42,320 --> 01:55:44,640
Speaker 2: they're gonna get injured. I'm blaming the trainers and the

2460
01:55:44,720 --> 01:55:47,640
Speaker 2: team physicians because there are certain teams that have more

2461
01:55:47,720 --> 01:55:50,400
Speaker 2: pitching injuries than others. So I gotta believe there's something

2462
01:55:50,440 --> 01:55:53,000
Speaker 2: wrong with the training techniques the trainers and or the

2463
01:55:53,080 --> 01:55:55,080
Speaker 2: team physicians. That's who I'm blaming.

2464
01:55:56,960 --> 01:55:58,520
Speaker 3: Uh No, I mean I.

2465
01:55:58,520 --> 01:56:01,840
Speaker 4: Will blame the analytics, the analytical crowd, because what they

2466
01:56:01,880 --> 01:56:05,320
Speaker 4: did is they shortened everybody down. Everyone are used to

2467
01:56:05,560 --> 01:56:07,600
Speaker 4: not going long where in the back of the day

2468
01:56:07,720 --> 01:56:10,920
Speaker 4: everyone would go super innings, thing about Sandy Kofax and

2469
01:56:10,960 --> 01:56:12,760
Speaker 4: all those guys and how they pitch complete games all

2470
01:56:12,800 --> 01:56:15,320
Speaker 4: the time. They changed the training, which is why they're

2471
01:56:15,360 --> 01:56:18,160
Speaker 4: always heard. So I blame the analytics crowd. They messed

2472
01:56:18,240 --> 01:56:18,680
Speaker 4: up the game.

2473
01:56:19,240 --> 01:56:21,360
Speaker 5: All right, all right, well we got one more for

2474
01:56:21,440 --> 01:56:24,120
Speaker 5: you guys here. So Friday nights were always reserved for

2475
01:56:24,240 --> 01:56:27,440
Speaker 5: high school football. Now college and even the NFL has

2476
01:56:27,640 --> 01:56:30,400
Speaker 5: moved in. Who do you blame, Bucky Brooks?

2477
01:56:31,920 --> 01:56:35,120
Speaker 4: I blame the TV networks because they got greedy. They

2478
01:56:35,280 --> 01:56:37,440
Speaker 4: moved college football to Friday night and made it a

2479
01:56:37,480 --> 01:56:39,960
Speaker 4: big deal that was supposed to be observed for Friday

2480
01:56:40,040 --> 01:56:42,480
Speaker 4: night lights. Now we got Colorado playing every Friday, it

2481
01:56:42,520 --> 01:56:44,440
Speaker 4: seems like, and it's going to continue.

2482
01:56:44,520 --> 01:56:46,640
Speaker 3: So yeah, I blame the TV networks.

2483
01:56:47,480 --> 01:56:49,800
Speaker 2: Taddy, This is an easy one. It's TV. You know,

2484
01:56:49,880 --> 01:56:52,840
Speaker 2: people a little for content on TV. They thought Friday

2485
01:56:52,920 --> 01:56:55,240
Speaker 2: was a great opportunity and basically a lot of high

2486
01:56:55,240 --> 01:56:57,240
Speaker 2: school games are not on TV, so they got the

2487
01:56:57,280 --> 01:56:59,560
Speaker 2: opportunity to put them in there, and they did, and

2488
01:56:59,640 --> 01:57:02,160
Speaker 2: they with the kids. They hurt their little kids out

2489
01:57:02,200 --> 01:57:03,800
Speaker 2: there that play high school football.

2490
01:57:04,280 --> 01:57:08,760
Speaker 5: All right, Well, speaking of TV guys, Lebron James says,

2491
01:57:08,800 --> 01:57:11,400
Speaker 5: the NBA media is too negative.

2492
01:57:11,480 --> 01:57:12,320
Speaker 2: Who do you blame?

2493
01:57:12,440 --> 01:57:12,800
Speaker 5: Andy?

2494
01:57:13,360 --> 01:57:15,920
Speaker 2: I blame guys talk show hosts like Bucket Brooks. I

2495
01:57:15,960 --> 01:57:18,520
Speaker 2: think Bucket Brooks attacks people all the time, and just

2496
01:57:18,600 --> 01:57:20,920
Speaker 2: to what he is, it's his nature. I'm a nice guy,

2497
01:57:21,240 --> 01:57:24,080
Speaker 2: I'm up bee, I'm positive, and I try to control

2498
01:57:24,160 --> 01:57:26,600
Speaker 2: Bucket from time to time. I hope the goodness of

2499
01:57:26,680 --> 01:57:29,560
Speaker 2: my part rubs off on him. But when Bucket Brooks

2500
01:57:29,560 --> 01:57:32,760
Speaker 2: gets behind that microphone, oh my goodness, it's like fire

2501
01:57:32,880 --> 01:57:34,680
Speaker 2: coming out of his mouth. That's what it is.

2502
01:57:36,400 --> 01:57:37,080
Speaker 3: I am with it.

2503
01:57:37,560 --> 01:57:41,240
Speaker 4: I agree it's my fault because I've read all the negativity.

2504
01:57:41,600 --> 01:57:43,280
Speaker 3: All of the hate goes.

2505
01:57:43,120 --> 01:57:45,640
Speaker 4: In my direction because we as a media base has

2506
01:57:45,800 --> 01:57:48,360
Speaker 4: turned all of the players against us because we're so

2507
01:57:48,480 --> 01:57:49,200
Speaker 4: negative against it.

2508
01:57:49,800 --> 01:57:52,760
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, you agree? Yes, all right.

2509
01:57:53,160 --> 01:57:56,240
Speaker 5: Well here's another one for you guys. So college football

2510
01:57:56,360 --> 01:57:59,960
Speaker 5: and basketball coaches are leaving really at kind of an

2511
01:58:00,160 --> 01:58:02,720
Speaker 5: alarming rate. Who do you blame, Bucky?

2512
01:58:06,160 --> 01:58:07,880
Speaker 4: I say, the fan base is we don't have any

2513
01:58:07,920 --> 01:58:11,640
Speaker 4: patients anymore for program building. We want everyone to be

2514
01:58:11,800 --> 01:58:14,440
Speaker 4: ready to be at a championship contender right away.

2515
01:58:14,280 --> 01:58:16,560
Speaker 3: And it's unrealistic. We don't have the patients.

2516
01:58:17,760 --> 01:58:20,520
Speaker 2: Well, it's easy to blame nil because they didn't want

2517
01:58:20,560 --> 01:58:22,400
Speaker 2: to go out dre and stuck getting money to pay

2518
01:58:22,440 --> 01:58:25,280
Speaker 2: these players, which they can't change. Change is difficult for

2519
01:58:25,320 --> 01:58:27,160
Speaker 2: a lot of people. But you know what, I think,

2520
01:58:27,200 --> 01:58:29,560
Speaker 2: I'm gonna blame the big salaries because you make that

2521
01:58:29,720 --> 01:58:33,480
Speaker 2: much money, you can retire a kickback earlier than before before.

2522
01:58:33,560 --> 01:58:36,560
Speaker 2: Coaches we've been coaching thirty years, twenty five, thirty years.

2523
01:58:36,680 --> 01:58:38,760
Speaker 2: You don't see that anymore. They make too much money

2524
01:58:38,800 --> 01:58:40,760
Speaker 2: too soon, so they pack it up and say, I

2525
01:58:40,760 --> 01:58:42,120
Speaker 2: don't need it anymore. I leave.

2526
01:58:42,920 --> 01:58:45,200
Speaker 5: All right, Well, this one goes out to my Cincinnati

2527
01:58:45,320 --> 01:58:48,040
Speaker 5: guys out there in the Midwest. So Wes Miller will

2528
01:58:48,080 --> 01:58:52,000
Speaker 5: finish this fourth season at the U of Cincinnati's basketball coach,

2529
01:58:52,440 --> 01:58:55,480
Speaker 5: now making the nc and also not making the NCAA tournament.

2530
01:58:55,760 --> 01:58:59,600
Speaker 5: Yet he's gonna be retained for next season. Final blame

2531
01:58:59,800 --> 01:59:01,520
Speaker 5: and Furman, who do you blame?

2532
01:59:01,760 --> 01:59:03,440
Speaker 2: Well, we kind of chatted on this a little bit

2533
01:59:03,480 --> 01:59:06,040
Speaker 2: early on. Is the buyout clause? I mean, they don't

2534
01:59:06,080 --> 01:59:07,840
Speaker 2: have the money to buy him out, so they're stuck

2535
01:59:07,920 --> 01:59:10,640
Speaker 2: with him. Any other coaches who make the NCAA tournament

2536
01:59:10,680 --> 01:59:12,760
Speaker 2: in two years, he's usually out on the street looking

2537
01:59:12,800 --> 01:59:14,920
Speaker 2: for a job. This is four years he hasn't made

2538
01:59:14,920 --> 01:59:18,560
Speaker 2: postseason tournament. So he's lucky they got the buyout. Baby.

2539
01:59:20,280 --> 01:59:21,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, look, I blame the ages.

2540
01:59:21,680 --> 01:59:24,240
Speaker 4: The agents did a great job negotiating that poison peel

2541
01:59:24,400 --> 01:59:26,920
Speaker 4: in the deal. You can't get rid of him because

2542
01:59:26,960 --> 01:59:30,240
Speaker 4: it costs an exorbitan amount of money. That's why, Cincinnati

2543
01:59:30,360 --> 01:59:32,040
Speaker 4: you're stuck with Wes Miller.

2544
01:59:32,520 --> 01:59:34,320
Speaker 2: I wish I had a buyout clause, and they can't

2545
01:59:34,320 --> 01:59:36,680
Speaker 2: get rid of me. I want to buy out clause.

2546
01:59:37,400 --> 01:59:40,000
Speaker 2: That's what I want. What else? Anything else?

2547
01:59:41,000 --> 01:59:44,440
Speaker 5: That's freaking it? Let's go blame game everybody.

2548
01:59:45,520 --> 01:59:47,920
Speaker 2: You must have something you want to ask us? Really,

2549
01:59:48,200 --> 01:59:52,160
Speaker 2: all right, I'll throw in audible. Why do pac Man

2550
01:59:52,280 --> 01:59:53,360
Speaker 2: Jones get a Wisitinator?

2551
01:59:53,480 --> 01:59:55,720
Speaker 5: Why DoD back Man Jones get a Wizonator? Who do

2552
01:59:55,760 --> 01:59:56,200
Speaker 5: you blame?

2553
01:59:57,640 --> 02:00:00,360
Speaker 2: I don't know. I like smoking pot. What can I

2554
02:00:00,440 --> 02:00:01,120
Speaker 2: tell you? I don't know.

2555
02:00:02,920 --> 02:00:04,360
Speaker 5: I blame I blame the Wisdoms.

2556
02:00:04,520 --> 02:00:07,920
Speaker 2: Anybody get a Wisionator? Really think about it? Why would they?

2557
02:00:09,200 --> 02:00:10,000
Speaker 2: I don't know who knows?

2558
02:00:10,680 --> 02:00:12,000
Speaker 5: Apparently I'm expecting one.

2559
02:00:12,080 --> 02:00:14,760
Speaker 2: In the mail let the let Jeff Schwartz talk about

2560
02:00:14,760 --> 02:00:17,320
Speaker 2: the Wizardnator coming up. He probably knows about that coming

2561
02:00:17,400 --> 02:00:19,360
Speaker 2: up right here next on Fox Sports