1 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:05,160 Speaker 1: Beyond the Beauty is a production of I Heart Radio. 2 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 1: I'm your host, Bobby Brown. Throughout my career, I have 3 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 1: worked with so many models before there was a term supermodels, 4 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 1: and the models of my early days taught me a lot. 5 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 1: I used to watch them fix the makeup I did, 6 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:29,480 Speaker 1: and I learned a lot about what to do and 7 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:35,520 Speaker 1: what not to do. And modeling is such an interesting career. 8 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 1: I'm not going to say it's a career choice, because 9 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:40,879 Speaker 1: you can't just decide to become a model. You are 10 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:43,519 Speaker 1: a model or you're not a model. But what I 11 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:48,159 Speaker 1: think is really interesting about talking to Rosie Huntington's is 12 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 1: that she had the utmost of success being a model, 13 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 1: from her days on the catwalk to Victoria's Secret, to 14 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: so many beauty and fashion campaigns, and now she's a 15 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 1: beauty entrepreneur aligning with many different brands. And not only that, 16 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:09,959 Speaker 1: this sweet, smart, beautiful girl is also married to the 17 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 1: handsome actor Jason Stayed them and they have a three 18 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 1: year old son. Honestly, couldn't get any better. I'm so 19 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 1: excited to talk to Rosie Huntington's to hear her story. 20 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 1: Good morning, Rosie, Bobby Here, Hi, Bobby how are you. 21 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 1: I'm good, How are you? Pretty good? Thank you? So, Rosie, 22 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:32,039 Speaker 1: it's so nice to meet you. Bobby. It's an honor 23 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:35,320 Speaker 1: to meet you. And you know, having worked for so 24 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:38,199 Speaker 1: many years now, seventeen years I've been in this industry 25 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 1: and being aware of Bobby Brown the makeup brand and 26 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 1: you as an artist and everything that you've accomplished through 27 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 1: your career. Well, it's kind of a bummer that I 28 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 1: never got to work with you because I guess seventeen 29 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 1: years ago, I was, you know, in business meeting after 30 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 1: business meeting when you started modeling. So yeah, I mean 31 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 1: I've been I've been aware of you. I've been aware 32 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 1: of you know, you as a model and now you 33 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: as this like emerging businesswoman media you know, Empire. But 34 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: you're You're the first model that I've talked to on 35 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 1: this podcast. So you know, I just tell me what 36 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: it must be like being a model and walking into 37 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 1: a room and every single person, every day of your 38 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:22,919 Speaker 1: life turns around to look at you. What what not? Honestly, 39 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:25,919 Speaker 1: come on what? I generally think anyone's ever really asked 40 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 1: me that question. I mean, there are days when it 41 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 1: feels incredibly powerful. Of course, when you walk into a 42 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 1: room and eyes are on you, and then there are 43 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 1: days when you feel an immense amount of pressure when 44 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 1: you have that as well. And I think that I 45 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 1: wouldn't describe myself as being an extrovert, and I wouldn't 46 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 1: describe myself as being an introvert. But I definitely I 47 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 1: love my job, I love people, and I love being 48 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:54,639 Speaker 1: out and about. But I also really value the time 49 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 1: UM in my personal life and the time at home, 50 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 1: and I really get my I guess I rejuvenate in 51 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 1: that way by spending time alone and being behind closed doors. 52 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 1: It's really important to me to have that balance. And 53 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 1: I also have always felt like I leave my work 54 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 1: at work. I'm not somebody that really takes it home 55 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:15,679 Speaker 1: with me. I have. I see my life as two 56 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 1: very different um well, many different ways. We're all multifaceted, 57 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 1: aren't we, especially women, But particularly when it comes to 58 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: my personal life and my work life, I feel that, 59 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:27,919 Speaker 1: you know, there is a divide. I leave my work 60 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 1: at the studio or in the office, and I come 61 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 1: home and you know, I'm rose in a different way. 62 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 1: And I think that's that's that's important to me, and 63 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 1: that's just how it's always been. It's not something I 64 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 1: try to do. It's just something I suppose I've really 65 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 1: realized and come to terms with over the years. How 66 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 1: did you get started in modeling and then the beauty industry? Yeah, okay, 67 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: so I'll take you way back to the very very beginning. 68 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 1: Ever since I can really remember, always loved fashion and 69 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 1: beauty and women's magazines and clothes and makeup. That was. 70 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 1: That was teenage girl that I was. And my mother 71 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 1: and I would, you know, bond over reading magazines. Every birthday, 72 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 1: I would ask for a subscription to Vogue magazine or 73 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:16,679 Speaker 1: l magazine. That was, you know, what I would ask for. 74 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:22,279 Speaker 1: And I just always was intrigued by what went into 75 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 1: creating these images that we saw in the magazine. And 76 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 1: if I went to the theater or I went to 77 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:30,839 Speaker 1: see the ballet, I was fascinated, of course by this production, 78 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:33,159 Speaker 1: but I wanted to sort of scratch the surface and 79 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:35,919 Speaker 1: know what was going on behind the scenes. So it 80 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 1: was I was always sort of fascinated by what the 81 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:42,479 Speaker 1: creative process was, from making clothing to making these images 82 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:46,279 Speaker 1: to theater. And back then, I mean I was, you know, 83 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 1: in my teens. I started modeling in two thousand and three, 84 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 1: so we're going back a little bit before that. You know, 85 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 1: there was no Internet, there was no you know, the 86 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 1: the fashion industry, and that was shrouded. It was very mysterious. 87 00:04:57,279 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: It was you know, what you saw were these polished images. 88 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:03,599 Speaker 1: There wasn't really any more information on it. So I 89 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 1: sort of hoped that I was going to be able 90 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 1: to get a place at the London College of Fashion. 91 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 1: And again I had no contact, no idea what I 92 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: really wanted to do within the fashion industry or even 93 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:17,279 Speaker 1: what jobs were available. I grew up on a farm, 94 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:21,919 Speaker 1: very very rural England. Nobody I knew was going into 95 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 1: anything this kind of always interested in anything creative in 96 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 1: this way. And so when we were sixteen at school, 97 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 1: everybody had to go and do a week of work experience, 98 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 1: get an internship essentially. So most kids went off and 99 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:40,480 Speaker 1: worked at the doctor's offices or within the local hospital, 100 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 1: or at the local mechanics and things like that. And 101 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 1: I wanted to go to London. I just knew that 102 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:48,479 Speaker 1: I wanted to go to London and I wanted to 103 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:51,919 Speaker 1: work in fashion. So I picked up the Yellow Pages, 104 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:54,480 Speaker 1: the big book that we used to get by our phone, 105 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 1: that's how I got my started. And beauty are so 106 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 1: which is very fun, okay, and we're so we're not 107 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 1: the same age. So I picked up the Yellow Pages 108 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 1: and I looked up all of the information of the 109 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:10,039 Speaker 1: brands where I would buy my clothes from, so top Shop, 110 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 1: Marks and Spencer, missed Selfridge, and I wrote to their 111 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 1: headquarters and anything I could find, you know, in the 112 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:18,840 Speaker 1: back of magazines. They have the sort of directory in 113 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 1: the back of the magazines with sort of addresses for 114 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:24,839 Speaker 1: local companies or agencies and things like that. And I 115 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 1: just wrote, handwrote probably thirty forty letters and sent them 116 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 1: in the post. And a few days later I came 117 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 1: back from school and my mother said, oh, we've got 118 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 1: a phone call today from one of the places that 119 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 1: you'd written off to, and it was this little modeling 120 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:43,159 Speaker 1: agency in the West End of London and they said 121 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:44,719 Speaker 1: they'd love to have you up for a week of 122 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:47,720 Speaker 1: work experience. I was elated. I was just so excited 123 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:50,279 Speaker 1: and thrilled I was going to London. This was a 124 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 1: huge deal. That was the most exciting opportunity to travel 125 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:57,559 Speaker 1: out of the countryside, to go up to London and 126 00:06:57,800 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 1: be working in this world and so I got to 127 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:02,840 Speaker 1: London of few weeks later, turned up in this tiny, 128 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:05,719 Speaker 1: weeny room of an agency. What I think I was 129 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:08,279 Speaker 1: hoping was again I had no idea really what a 130 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 1: modeling agency was. I knew it was an agency that 131 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 1: looked after models, but what do they do? And of 132 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 1: course it's a bunch of bookers. It was five bookers 133 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 1: sat rounded round table, smoking cigarettes, picking up the phone, 134 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 1: screaming down the phone, copious amounts of glass of wine 135 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 1: and cups of coffee and teeth throughout the day, faxes 136 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 1: and new name it. And so I spent the week 137 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 1: making you know, photocopies, running errands, refilling coffee cups, emptying ashways. 138 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 1: And you were sixteen, correct, You're sixteen at the time. 139 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 1: And I remember being a bit frustrated because I thought, oh, 140 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 1: I thought I was going to get to go on 141 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 1: you know, on a shoot or go into a just 142 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: you know, see something more creative than this. Anyway, So 143 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 1: that was it. I wrapped a really exciting week. It 144 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 1: was exciting, nonetheless, and then I went back to school, 145 00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:00,040 Speaker 1: finished my exams for that year, and then decided to 146 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 1: go back up to London that summer with a friend 147 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 1: and my mom had said, you know, listen, if you 148 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 1: want to, you know, finish school and you want to 149 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 1: go into the fashion industry, it's not what you know, 150 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 1: it's who you know in the fashion industry. And you've 151 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 1: got to contacts. You don't have any, so you better 152 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 1: keep your contacts at this agency. So I went in 153 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 1: and there was a new booker and she said, listen, well, 154 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 1: I think we're gonna need a little bit of a 155 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 1: re hole. You know, with your your skins really bad, 156 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 1: You're gonna have to grow back your eyebrows, We'll have 157 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 1: to fix your hair. But would you be open to 158 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 1: going out on you know, would you be open if 159 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: I took some polaroids and you know, maybe sent you 160 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 1: out on a couple of ghosts and castings and we'll 161 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 1: take it from there. But don't get excited. We don't 162 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 1: know where this could go. And that was it. So 163 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 1: I I leapt at the chance because I thought, here's 164 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:47,719 Speaker 1: my opportunity to see the creative side of the industry. 165 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:50,199 Speaker 1: And within a few days I was on my first 166 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 1: test shoot. And then within a few months I was 167 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 1: on my first shoot, and a few months after that 168 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 1: I was traveling to the States, and you know, I've 169 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 1: been on one plane for that. When I started started 170 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 1: working pretty rapidly and I had no ego, no career 171 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 1: sort of strategy. It was just say yes to the job, 172 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:15,199 Speaker 1: do the work. And that's really how it was for 173 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 1: for for many years. I just was very excited to 174 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:21,679 Speaker 1: be in that sort of world and to be traveling, 175 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 1: you know, super young, and my parents had no kind 176 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 1: of insight or advice to really give accept go for it. 177 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 1: You know, this is the opportunity of a lifetime. I 178 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 1: have one question, though, because I know your first catwalk 179 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 1: was you were seventeen years old and you walked along 180 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 1: Naomi Campbell, which must have been terrifying. I mean, tell 181 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 1: me what it was like arriving and realizing, oh my god. Well, 182 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:49,079 Speaker 1: this is a funny story because actually I think when 183 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 1: I did my first fashion show, I didn't even know 184 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 1: that she was in the show until after the show, 185 00:09:55,080 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 1: or until I then consequently read it sometime later. And 186 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 1: I have no idea why I didn't know that she 187 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 1: was in the show because it's Nami Campbell, but I 188 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 1: assumed she sort of came in last minute, Nami style 189 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 1: and walked the runway. And then let's so that was 190 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 1: unbeknounced to me. But I mean I definitely remember being 191 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 1: young just being in awe of of these glamazons and 192 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 1: just feeling like a bit of a fish out of water, 193 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 1: out of water for and in many ways I still do. 194 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 1: But yeah, I think it was very exciting and I 195 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 1: loved it. But for those of you guys that don't 196 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 1: know this, and many people do know you from the 197 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 1: Victoria's Secret world where you literally, you know, were there 198 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 1: when it became like this big, like bigger than anything 199 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 1: that ever happened in the fashion industry. So how many 200 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:46,680 Speaker 1: years did you do Victoria's Secret and what was that like? 201 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 1: So it wasn't long after I started working. I think 202 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 1: it was two thousand, two thousand and six, so when 203 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 1: I was about nineteen, and I worked with them for 204 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 1: five years until I decided to step away from working 205 00:10:57,200 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 1: with them. And again, that was just the most truly 206 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:05,199 Speaker 1: exciting experience. I mean, I think for me, I had 207 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 1: heard of Victoria's Secret, but I hadn't really thought much 208 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 1: of it. And it wasn't until I had a boyfriend 209 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 1: that was American and he said, the true iconic supermodels 210 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 1: all do Victoria's Secret and that's sort of my was 211 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 1: my first introduction. And then I think at the time 212 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:25,560 Speaker 1: when I was starting out, the look that was in 213 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 1: fashion at the time was I don't think my look 214 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 1: sort of fitted in in with It was sort of 215 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 1: the early two thousands, so a lot of the models 216 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 1: were coming out of Eastern Europe and it was very 217 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 1: very slender figures, and I just didn't really fit into that. 218 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:43,680 Speaker 1: I was always a bit shorter and considered to be covacious, 219 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 1: and I hope that we were a bit shorter. How 220 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 1: how tall are you? I'm actually five ft nine, so 221 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 1: you'll know that that's not on the toll side for 222 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 1: a model. It's you know, you're just skimming there. You're 223 00:11:56,120 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 1: basically like at the bottom end of the height requirement. Really, 224 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 1: and whoever called you cravacious, I don't remember her individually 225 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:11,560 Speaker 1: called me cavacious, but it was the resounding feedback that 226 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 1: I would get when I did and book a job 227 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 1: was Rosie's great. She's just very wholesome looking and she's 228 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 1: to her personalities to stand out. So it was a 229 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 1: case of I suppose I had this had a bright personality, 230 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 1: and so for me actually finding my home then within 231 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 1: Victoria's Secret where they celebrated you know, women with personalities 232 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 1: and and and and vivacious nous with women and wholesomeness. 233 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 1: I think at the time I felt that I really 234 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 1: found my home and it was a great experience and 235 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 1: traveled the world with them some amazing trips. It was 236 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 1: you know that that period of time was really when 237 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 1: VS was in its heyday, and you know, all the 238 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 1: supermodels were there, and there was just so much potential 239 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:59,199 Speaker 1: and opportunity to build off working with them. That's how 240 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 1: I always saw was it was a stepping stone to 241 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 1: too many opportunities beyond them. I think you're one of 242 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 1: the first models, certainly the first supermodels that said, you 243 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 1: know what, I love this modeling thing, but I want 244 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 1: to do some other things. You know. So what was 245 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 1: the first thought in your head and how did you 246 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 1: transition to being an entrepreneur. I was always very aware 247 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 1: of the shelf life that modeling could potentially have, and 248 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 1: I think for me, I've always felt that and I 249 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 1: still do that it can all go away tomorrow. And 250 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 1: I you know, I had modeling agent at the time 251 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:56,719 Speaker 1: who said to me, you know, you've you've got to 252 00:13:56,760 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 1: save your money Rosie because most girls career that done 253 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:03,200 Speaker 1: by the time their twenties five twenty six, So save 254 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 1: your money and be smart, um. And I just remember thinking, well, 255 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 1: that totally makes sense, and so I saved my money 256 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 1: and I was sensible in that way. But I just 257 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 1: also remember being slightly panicked because I had left school 258 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 1: so young. I had left really left full time education 259 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 1: at seventeen, and I remember thinking, well, if it finishes 260 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 1: for me in another, you know, a few years, what 261 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 1: am I going to do? And I really need to 262 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 1: pivot this into something else. And I'm actually doing what 263 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 1: I really love. I love that I'm in the industry 264 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 1: I always dreamt off, so I've got to be smart 265 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 1: about this. There was one model to me who always 266 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 1: really stood out, and she's, you know, a little bit 267 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 1: older than I am, but she always stood out to 268 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 1: me as a businesswoman with integrity, and she had really 269 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 1: pivoted her modeling career and her I think her general 270 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 1: sort of aesthetic and her um personality into business in 271 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 1: a way that I just really it really related with me. 272 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 1: And that was al McPherson, Els in her fifties. But 273 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 1: I just always looked up to her and saw what 274 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 1: she did with her career, and took a lot of 275 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 1: inspiration from that. In general, other than Victory's Secret, I 276 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 1: had done a lot of lingerie modeling, and so I 277 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 1: knew that there was this perception of me, or this 278 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 1: idea that I was this lingerie girl, and so I 279 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 1: felt that it would make sense for me to sort 280 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 1: of go into looking at what having a lingerie line 281 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 1: was like, and so I launched a lingerie line with 282 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 1: a retailer in the UK called Marks and Spencer about 283 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 1: nine years ago. I think really one of the things 284 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 1: that I have always felt really uncomfortable with, particularly in 285 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 1: the early days of my career, was this idea of 286 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 1: and I don't know whether you experienced this as an artist, 287 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 1: but you're so often waiting for the phone to ring. 288 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 1: You're waiting for your agent to tell you that somebody 289 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 1: else's wants you to work with them. And having had 290 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 1: many years and many periods where the phone didn't ring, 291 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 1: and I felt the stress of is this over or 292 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 1: what's going to happen? And when I'm you know, also 293 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 1: just the stress of being bored. I love to work. 294 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 1: I never felt comfortable with that idea of waiting for 295 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 1: somebody else to decide whether I work or not. And 296 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 1: so alongside that part of my career, I've always wanted 297 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 1: to be quite proactive in other areas because I you know, 298 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 1: I like to work and I'm fulfilled by what I do. 299 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 1: It's amazing when I read your bio on how many 300 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 1: projects and how many things you've done. It's it's quite impressive, 301 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 1: you know, and you and you are just the beginning 302 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 1: of this journey which you don't even realize. But your 303 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 1: your editorial side, rose Ink. First of all, why is 304 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 1: it that rosy? Ink? I'd love to get your perspective 305 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 1: on this as well. But I just never really wanted 306 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 1: to call it after my name. I felt that for me, 307 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 1: it was about building a community and it was about 308 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 1: highlighting other individuals in the industry. Um and I felt 309 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 1: that if I called it after my own name, it 310 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 1: became about about me. And I think that it was 311 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 1: for me. It was an important decision to say, hey, 312 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 1: this is my business and I want to do this 313 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 1: and I can't wait to share more with you. But 314 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 1: this isn't just about me, and so I wanted the 315 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 1: name to have a nod to me and a nod 316 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:16,119 Speaker 1: to who I am. Everybody calls me Rose. And then 317 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:18,359 Speaker 1: I liked the idea of the ink. I thought it 318 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 1: brought the sort of incorporated nature of business into something 319 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 1: that was inherently feminine. And I think that that's, you know, 320 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 1: partly who I am in many ways, is you know, 321 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 1: on one hand, I'm deeply feminine and a true sort 322 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 1: of girl's girl and a woman's woman. But there is 323 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 1: this sort of side me that's, you know, no nonsense 324 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:40,440 Speaker 1: and loves to get shipped done well. I think it's 325 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 1: amazing and I love all of your interviews. So, Rosie, 326 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 1: what other things have you been involved with? So I 327 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:51,880 Speaker 1: talked to you a little bit about UM launching a 328 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 1: lingerie line here within the in the UK with Marks 329 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 1: and Spencer, and then I think it was two thousand 330 00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 1: sixteen we launched Fragrance and Beauty, which I developed with 331 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 1: them and their product developers in house at M and S. 332 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 1: And that was an amazing opportunity. Absolutely loved it. I 333 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 1: feel like I really cut my teeth on that experience. 334 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:16,200 Speaker 1: It was a wonderful, very exciting time in my life 335 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 1: to launch these products and have them sold at a 336 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 1: national retailer within the UK, and for them to touch 337 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 1: so many women's lives and then um I signed with 338 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:30,639 Speaker 1: our Glass last year out of us having been one 339 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 1: of my favorite makeup brands for you know, seven or 340 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 1: eight years. Just always loved the brand as a as 341 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:41,160 Speaker 1: a consumer first really and had bought the products myself 342 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:43,359 Speaker 1: had been introduced to them, like most of the products 343 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:47,160 Speaker 1: I get introduced to viral makeup artists, literally went out 344 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:49,160 Speaker 1: the next day and brought myself some products, and then 345 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 1: as you know, over the years, I just naturally talk 346 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 1: about them and launched Rosinc. I talked about products I 347 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 1: was using in my tutorials, so I got connected with 348 00:18:57,280 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 1: the brand and it just was a very natural thing. 349 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 1: We did a few projects together on Rose Inc. And 350 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 1: then it evolved into them asking me to become their 351 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 1: first face of the brand. So that was very exciting. 352 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:12,159 Speaker 1: And I've had been very very lucky to have so 353 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:16,400 Speaker 1: many partnerships over the years. And and I think since 354 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 1: becoming a mother, I will say now when I looked 355 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 1: partner with a brand or aligne with a brand, that 356 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 1: authenticity needs to be there for me. I think before 357 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:28,200 Speaker 1: you know, it's a different time, you could get away 358 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 1: with things more. And I think it was different being 359 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:33,399 Speaker 1: in your twenties, but you know, as you sort of 360 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 1: get older and you become more discerning in your choices. 361 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 1: And then, of course my partnership with Poppette, I'd love 362 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 1: to hear about that, especially being a working mother. Um, 363 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 1: your your your baby is three? Correct? My son is three. Jack. 364 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 1: He's good fun right now. Okay, So this is you know, 365 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:53,920 Speaker 1: this is a really interesting story because you know, I'm 366 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 1: a new mom and I think like most new parents 367 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:59,399 Speaker 1: when you know, particularly mothers when they're pregnant, they start 368 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:01,639 Speaker 1: to do all the research and looking at products and 369 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 1: what they should buy. It it's so overwhelming, at least 370 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 1: it was for me. I didn't know. I've never been 371 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 1: around a baby before, so it was just a really 372 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:13,160 Speaker 1: overwhelming nerve racking time. And I gave birth to Jack, 373 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 1: and you know, you find your way. And it was 374 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: about once Jack was about eighteen months old, Perpette or 375 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 1: the team at Amorous, which is the team behind Perpette, 376 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 1: got in touch with me and they sent me through 377 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 1: this deck called the Longest Shortest, which was essentially all 378 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 1: of their research, market research, and information on this product 379 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 1: line which had not hit the market yet. And I 380 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 1: was just really blown away by the level of integrity 381 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 1: that had gone into creating this brand. You know, they 382 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 1: wanted to open up conversation about bringing me on board 383 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 1: as a spokeswoman, as and as a partner. And I felt, 384 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 1: you know, pretty sure that this was going to be 385 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:58,120 Speaker 1: something special. But I also felt that this was one 386 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:01,160 Speaker 1: that I really needed to make or I felt very 387 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 1: comfortable in promoting or talking about because this now is 388 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 1: not just a beauty product or a shirt or a 389 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 1: pair of jeans. This is about a product that you're 390 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 1: recommending to a mother to use on her baby. So 391 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 1: I decided that, you know, I wanted to go up 392 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:19,440 Speaker 1: to their to their headquarters in San Francisco and learn more. 393 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 1: And they walked me through the laboratory and they shared 394 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 1: more information with me about how they create these products, 395 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:29,880 Speaker 1: and they're clean mission that you know, I hopefully we're 396 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 1: going to really disrupt the market for new parents, particularly 397 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 1: millennial parents, who I think have just become so much 398 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:42,120 Speaker 1: more conscious in their purchasing. I was just really really 399 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:45,639 Speaker 1: impressed by the by the products, and so that's really 400 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:49,360 Speaker 1: how it all started. And and the brand's just over 401 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 1: a year old now and it's gone from strength to strength, 402 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 1: and I know it's touching a lot of people's lives 403 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:56,680 Speaker 1: and really making a difference. And I think for me 404 00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 1: as a mom and as a consumer, first, I finally 405 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 1: felt like I found a brand that I really felt 406 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:07,919 Speaker 1: comfortable using on my son, felt really comfortable using on myself. 407 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 1: They're non toxic, they're clean, They're going to make a 408 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 1: difference in our lives without really having to think about 409 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 1: it too much. Well, I can't worry to check it out, 410 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 1: but I also have to ask you. Talk to me 411 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:22,200 Speaker 1: a little bit about your husband, like what what a 412 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:24,680 Speaker 1: what a couple, what a family? What a team? Tell 413 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:28,479 Speaker 1: me about meeting him. Jason and I have been together 414 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:32,359 Speaker 1: now for we've known each other for about eleven years. 415 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:34,359 Speaker 1: It is it's a team. It's a real team, and 416 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 1: you've become real family unit when you have a kid. 417 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 1: So we obviously spent many years together just the two 418 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 1: of us, and I feel just really lucky to be 419 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 1: able to experience this journey with him. And he's such 420 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 1: a strong, stoic character in my life who's just always 421 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 1: got my back, and it's you know, even on those 422 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:00,399 Speaker 1: days where you want to ring each other's X, he 423 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:02,919 Speaker 1: really is my you know, my number one fan and 424 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 1: my number one champion, champion, and it goes both ways. 425 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:09,439 Speaker 1: And you know, he's a fantastic dad, and we're just 426 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 1: both absolutely adore being Jack's parents and very very invested 427 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,119 Speaker 1: in in that, and so it's a lot of fun. 428 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 1: It's a lot of fun. I mean at jocal is time, 429 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 1: because you know, Jack's a three year old and Jason's 430 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 1: this light energy eyes, a bunny who from the moment 431 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 1: he wakes up is they both exhaust me. I'm just 432 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:31,359 Speaker 1: exhausted all the time by the pair of them. But 433 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 1: they just wear each other out. Now, so I'm like, you, 434 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:38,119 Speaker 1: guys just wear each other out. But it's fantastic to 435 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 1: watch them both together. It's so interesting and funny because 436 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 1: I would never in a million years think that we 437 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:47,120 Speaker 1: would have any similarities, any comparisons, and listening to your 438 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 1: story is so parallel. Besides, I'm five foot tall and 439 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 1: not a supermodel, but the mother of three boys and 440 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 1: being an entrepreneur and just learning from other people that 441 00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:59,680 Speaker 1: I've worked with and then bringing it in and doing 442 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:03,200 Speaker 1: it my self, and I just you know, my last 443 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 1: question is what do you think you've learned from all 444 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:09,919 Speaker 1: the different things that you've been involved with that. You know, 445 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 1: people that are listening could take in what they're doing. 446 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 1: There's so many things I think I've learned. I would 447 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 1: have a hard time to sort of define one specific thing. 448 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:23,920 Speaker 1: But I think the thing I've learned the most over 449 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 1: my career is you've got to be prepared to work 450 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 1: from the bottom to the top before you get there, 451 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 1: and you've got to work hard. And I've always had 452 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,159 Speaker 1: a hard time saying as a model that I've worked 453 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:38,679 Speaker 1: hard because of the I guess, the pluses and the 454 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:41,439 Speaker 1: pros that come along with being a model, and the 455 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:45,160 Speaker 1: paychecks and the travel, and it's so glamorous. So I've 456 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 1: had a hard time saying that I work hard because 457 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 1: I look at somebody like a nurse who is really 458 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 1: really working hard, in my opinion. But I've always been focused, 459 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:59,160 Speaker 1: and I've always been strategic and realistic about my capabilities, 460 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 1: and I think that that it's really important to an 461 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:06,400 Speaker 1: entrepreneur or for somebody who wants a career. I think 462 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:10,120 Speaker 1: you have to throw entitlement out the window. And I 463 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:13,400 Speaker 1: feel that that's something I see more and more of now, 464 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:15,680 Speaker 1: is there's a lot of entitlement with people when they 465 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 1: come into the step into the workforce. So you have 466 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 1: those moments where you know, I was sent home from jobs, 467 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:26,359 Speaker 1: I was you know, canceled from shows in the middle 468 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 1: of line up. I was told I was this, I 469 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:32,480 Speaker 1: was told I was there. You know, I've had projects 470 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:35,479 Speaker 1: pulled from me last minute. But I've never sort of 471 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:39,679 Speaker 1: allowed those things to to define me. But I've allowed 472 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:41,879 Speaker 1: them to shape me and learn from them and move forward, 473 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 1: I think. And I think the other thing I've learned 474 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:48,359 Speaker 1: is that your reputation really serves you. And I think 475 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 1: it takes really a lifetime to build a reputation. And 476 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 1: I'm sure you would agree with that, having a good 477 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 1: work ethic, being somebody that people enjoy working with and 478 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 1: being around. And that doesn't mean that you aren't still 479 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 1: be firm. It doesn't mean you can't get your point across. 480 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:06,879 Speaker 1: And I think often times it's really hard for women 481 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 1: to be firm or to be assertive because we're regarded 482 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,200 Speaker 1: in a way of them being flying off the handle, 483 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 1: you know, just difficult. So I always try and really 484 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 1: think about the way that I'm asserting my power with firmness, 485 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 1: but with fairness. Now, those are those are all very good, Uh, 486 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 1: you know, takeaways that people you know don't realize how 487 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 1: hard it is to be successful, how hard it is, 488 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 1: how much you have to work, you know, over time 489 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 1: and hard, and you know when you learn each time. 490 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,680 Speaker 1: I mean, I am very much looking forward to seeing 491 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,400 Speaker 1: what your next steps are because I don't I think 492 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 1: you've just scratched the surface. And honestly, Rosa, you are 493 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 1: an even more beautiful person on the inside than outside, 494 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 1: which is saying a lot, because you are quite beautiful. 495 00:26:52,080 --> 00:27:10,120 Speaker 1: Thank you. Probably that's really kind. Thank you. So here 496 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,920 Speaker 1: is the speed ground I ask everyone. And the first 497 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,960 Speaker 1: question is what does beauty mean to you? Beauty is 498 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 1: a feeling. I believe it's a feeling that you have 499 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 1: on the inside about yourself, and it is a feeling 500 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:26,440 Speaker 1: that you leave the people who you surround yourself with 501 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 1: or the people that you interact with, and I think 502 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 1: inherently it's a good feeling. What is your daily makeup routine? 503 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 1: Your quick makeup routine. Quick makeup routine would be, you know, 504 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:49,399 Speaker 1: skincare routine obviously, and then um, conceila brow bronze, blush 505 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 1: colored eyelashes if it's really quick, and then I would 506 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,640 Speaker 1: say like a little bit of lip bomb or lip 507 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 1: liner and lip bomb that's like super super quick day 508 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:03,400 Speaker 1: to day. And how about your favorite cocktail? Favorite cocktail. 509 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:08,159 Speaker 1: I love a Moscow Mule, I love Margarita, I love 510 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,879 Speaker 1: just a straight to killer on the rocks. I love 511 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 1: all cocktails. Basically, I've never met one I didn't like. 512 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 1: And are you a cupcake or Crisp Lover Crisp Chris favor? Yeah, 513 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 1: all day long? Alright, one last question, what is the 514 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 1: craziest thing you've ever done? Just for fun? I danced 515 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,639 Speaker 1: down stage with floor Rider. I'm trying to think of 516 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:37,120 Speaker 1: something lots. I mean, I'm trying to think of things 517 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:40,400 Speaker 1: that I probably could repeat on this podcast. First of all, 518 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 1: but it sounds like you need to have a little 519 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 1: more fun roads. No, I A thousand percent need to 520 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 1: have more fun, but thousand have more one And I'm like, 521 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 1: this year it's done. I'm done. I need to go 522 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:55,959 Speaker 1: and have some fun. Yeah, this gives you permission. So 523 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 1: could you tell everyone where we could hear more and 524 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 1: find and and find you? Well, anybody who wants to 525 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 1: find me, here's my home address and my my bone number. Yeah. Now, 526 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 1: I'm I'm Rosie h W on Instagram. Rose Inc. Dot com. 527 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 1: If you'd like to find out more about Popette, it's 528 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 1: you know, popete dot com. Definitely recommend any new mothers 529 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:20,720 Speaker 1: or parents to check out those products, and really that's 530 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 1: how you can find me, I think, other than probably 531 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 1: bombarding my PR company. It was such a joy talking 532 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 1: to you, and I'm really grateful that you came on 533 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 1: the podcast and I look forward to meeting you in 534 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 1: person one day. Yeah, me too, Bobby. Thank you such 535 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 1: an icon to me, bigcause. For more podcasts from I 536 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 1: Heart Radio, visit the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcast, 537 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 1: or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.