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Speaker 2: You've been on television for a long time, and you've

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Speaker 2: been a public figure obviously being on television for a

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Speaker 2: long time, How does that play into relationships?

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Speaker 3: Like how what you mean?

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Speaker 2: Like for women a lot of times it's it's a

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Speaker 2: little difficult or it could be different than like a man,

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Speaker 2: like when you're in a relationship, right and it's like

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Speaker 2: you got to travel or you're like uh, known and

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Speaker 2: different things that like you know, this is.

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Speaker 3: A great question. Can you give me some advice. I

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Speaker 3: need some advice. Do you think I can give me

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Speaker 3: some advice?

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Speaker 4: Got you what you need? Okay, what's the question?

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Speaker 3: I know, but first finishing what you're saying, because I

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Speaker 3: think you're I think you're asking me, how do I know?

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Speaker 4: Are you? Are you single? Oh?

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Speaker 3: Oh god, that's a great question.

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Speaker 4: Let her enjoy the holidays, my boy. Let me that's

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Speaker 4: a dirty back before the holiday because not present yet?

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Speaker 2: Right, So, like, well, if you're not all right, well,

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Speaker 2: all right regardless regardless, it's it's, it's it's. But I've

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Speaker 2: heard this from other women to like, you know that

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Speaker 2: it could be difficult sometimes or you gotta sometimes you

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Speaker 2: might have to lower your presence and moments for the

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Speaker 2: man to feel more comfortable. I'm not saying that's your situation.

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying I've heard that from other people before me.

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Speaker 2: But men don't have to deal with that. Men don't

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Speaker 2: have to worry about they're on television or you know,

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Speaker 2: they're getting too much attention, or somebody might recognize them

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Speaker 2: at dinner, right, Like, that's not something that a man

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Speaker 2: ever thinks about, But a woman who is a public

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Speaker 2: figure might have to consider that when the dynamics of

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Speaker 2: the relationship might have some level of, you know, in balance.

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Speaker 3: Okay, this is great, and so I think I'm going

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Speaker 3: to tell you what I think about that. I've never

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm aware of it, and I think the

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Speaker 3: men that I'm attracted to are the men that I've

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Speaker 3: dated and been with in the past. I don't think

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Speaker 3: that's an issue for them, at least they've never made

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Speaker 3: it seem as if it's an issue. They seek confident, comfortable,

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Speaker 3: got their own, So I don't think that being in

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Speaker 3: the public eye made them feel a way. At least

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Speaker 3: that's how they've all made me believe. But it probably

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Speaker 3: manifests in ways that I haven't really acknowledged. I often

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Speaker 3: wonder and I and I, because there's always a story

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Speaker 3: about what kind of minute day I date black man?

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Speaker 3: Is there on the internet they'll tell you only date

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Speaker 3: white man. I don't know why where that came from,

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Speaker 3: Maybe me back in the day being silly when I

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Speaker 3: was at ESPN joking around with Jamail, we say silly

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Speaker 3: things or weld TikTok, and then the Internet run with

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Speaker 3: it and it's like, Okay, shortly, day's white man. That's

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Speaker 3: just not true. But I think it is hard to

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Speaker 3: date as a woman who is in the public eye

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Speaker 3: if you're with somebody who doesn't understand that sometimes networking

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Speaker 3: might look like flirting meeting. I could be at an event.

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Speaker 3: I went to a Beyonce concert and I see a

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Speaker 3: bunch of people that I know, and I'm I'm networking,

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Speaker 3: I'm talking and yeah, we should do this. I think

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Speaker 3: that'd be great. We laugh and we're joking. We're all

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Speaker 3: having drinks. Now, the person I could have been with

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Speaker 3: could have felt a way about that. If you're looking,

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Speaker 3: you're like, I don't know what this is. I do

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Speaker 3: find that that is uncomfortable. And I'm taking notes right

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Speaker 3: because I don't If you want somebody, you don't want

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Speaker 3: But I don't think that taking notes looks like me

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Speaker 3: dimming my life. I would never want to be with

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Speaker 3: anybody who wants me to do I wouldn't want to

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Speaker 3: can't tell me I look good because they think three

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Speaker 3: thousand men on Twitter told me that today, so they

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Speaker 3: don't want to tell me. So I try to date

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Speaker 3: and make men feel safe when I fine.

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Speaker 4: You know I'm not.

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Speaker 3: I don't have a bunch of relationships. When I am

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Speaker 3: in one, I try to make you feel good. I

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Speaker 3: try to make you feel comfortable, secure, all the things

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Speaker 3: as I would want you to do for me as well.

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Speaker 3: Here's the thing that I'm going to.

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Speaker 4: Ask you about.

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Speaker 3: I'm curious, and I don't know if y'all notice it.

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Speaker 3: Whether you're married or single, or whatever your case may be,

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Speaker 3: there's something going on. And y'all know you've had this

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Speaker 3: debate over and over again with black men and black

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Speaker 3: women where I think we are constantly talking about what

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Speaker 3: when one group does versus the other group. And that's

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Speaker 3: why we're in this space where we're constantly knocking heads,

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Speaker 3: like don't I don't understand that now Now I'm so confused.

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Speaker 3: So I was sitting down and my friend walked up.

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Speaker 3: Too many goes. You're on your phone and you're sitting

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Speaker 3: at a bar. You don't even look like you want

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Speaker 3: to talk to a dude. If I saw a dude.

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Speaker 3: If I was a dude and I want to walk

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Speaker 3: up to you, I wouldn't talk to you because you

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Speaker 3: don't seem open enough. You seem like you mean, you

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Speaker 3: seem like you don't have time. But I'm just responding

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Speaker 3: to a text like ten other people are, right, what's

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Speaker 3: going on with that? Like that's the question I have,

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Speaker 3: do y'all since that at all? Like there's just this beef,

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Speaker 3: this unwritten it just gets toxic and it gets uncomfortable.

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Speaker 3: And I'm not blaming Kevin Samuels because everybody loves him.

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Speaker 3: I'm blaming him, But I also know that maybe perhaps

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Speaker 3: there is some blame to be to be there, you

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Speaker 3: know what I mean. I don't know, so I'm asking you.

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Speaker 2: I think I think it's it's it's a it's a

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Speaker 2: good question, and I think it's deep rooted. I hate

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Speaker 2: to be the conspiracy theory god, but I do think

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Speaker 2: that there is some level of outside influence that has

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Speaker 2: that has helped push that agenda to divide and conquer strategy.

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Speaker 2: But I also think that it speaks to a breakdown

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Speaker 2: and just the culture of American culture overall. Like I

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Speaker 2: and you know, I'm overseas a lot these days, and

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Speaker 2: the cultural norms and cultural standards that other countries have

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Speaker 2: Americans don't have, and that's something that's not talked about enough,

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Speaker 2: and I think that that definitely plays a major part

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Speaker 2: becomes a battle. Right, So now a woman easily can

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Speaker 2: And then you throw some gasoline on the fire, you

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Speaker 2: see a viral clip go, and then before you know it,

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Speaker 2: it's just a constant No, I'm not paying for this, Why.

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Speaker 4: Would you do this thing?

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Speaker 2: You should be like, you know, it's just like a constant,

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Speaker 2: just toxic thing. So I feel like that's a real, real,

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Speaker 2: like just deep rooted. But I also feel like it

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Speaker 2: is rooted in pain because a lot of times, you know,

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Speaker 2: there is truths to like they say there's truth in

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Speaker 2: every joke, Like there's truth in every troll. So it's like,

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Speaker 2: you know, there's a lot of pain because, yeah, I

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Speaker 2: used to be a financial advisor, so I have first

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Speaker 2: hand information on this, Like most of my clients were

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Speaker 2: black women, and that's when I realized that black women

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Speaker 2: was making a lot more money than a lot of

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Speaker 2: black men. That's a real thing, but that definitely causes

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Speaker 2: issues in a relationship when you're frustrated because you're not

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Speaker 2: able to earn enough money to take care of your family.

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Speaker 2: Somebody's making more money, they gonna feel more empowered. Let's

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Speaker 2: just be honest. If a woman is making more money

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Speaker 2: than a man, she's going to fill on a certain

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Speaker 2: level more in powered. Nine times out of ten, it's

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Speaker 2: going to be a different conversation. It's gonna be different

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Speaker 2: things that happen in that relationship. So there's underlying things

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Speaker 2: that I think caused all of these issues. But I

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Speaker 2: also feel like it's just not deep rooted in culture

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Speaker 2: as far as like cultural standards, cultural norms. You know,

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Speaker 2: certain boundaries that other countries, other cultures have established that

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Speaker 2: we don't have established, and it's just like running them up.

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Speaker 4: But to your point, rest in peace to the Godfather.

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Speaker 4: He brought a lot of us to the table.

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Speaker 5: And then it became an inflection point because most people

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Speaker 5: aren't having these coming like when I'm outside of dinner.

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Speaker 4: This is not a talking point.

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Speaker 5: And the other part that has to be said about man,

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Speaker 5: y'all have to quit being so fucking scared whether she

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Speaker 5: mean or not, whether you got motion or not to

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Speaker 2: But no, but this goes back to the thing what

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Speaker 2: we're saying before that most people can't afford to get married.

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Speaker 2: So there's a lot of this is an economic issue

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Speaker 2: with this whole red pill community was birthed out of

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Speaker 2: people that's frustrated with this people.

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Speaker 4: It's just like racism.

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Speaker 2: When people are angry about this situation, they projected on

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Speaker 2: other people. So this whole anti woman movement that we've

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Speaker 2: seen with a lot of like people online, like you said,

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Speaker 2: a lot of stuff you don't even see in the

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Speaker 2: real world, like real I think what I call it,

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Speaker 2: this is the vocal minority. Things on social media get

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Speaker 2: But I've never seen somebody have a fifty fifty debate

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Speaker 2: in person. I've never in life. I never in my life.

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Speaker 2: They might have had it behind closed doors, but I've

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Speaker 2: never in my life been at a restaurant and seen people.

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Speaker 2: I've never in my life seen a man tell a

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Speaker 2: woman pay the bill at a restaurant. I've never been in life,

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Speaker 2: and I've probably been to at least three thousand dinners

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Speaker 2: in my life. I've never seen these hypothetical questions that

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Speaker 2: like I said, hurt people. Hurt people when when you

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Speaker 2: really don't have enough confidence and you really don't have

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Speaker 2: enough money and you like then you're not gonna want

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