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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, Jeffrey Epstein.

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Speaker 2: Victims demand prosecute Prince Andrew as King Charles axes Andrew's

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Speaker 2: prince title. He's got bigger problems now, demands from Capitol Hill.

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Speaker 2: Prince Andrew come here and testify on you as soil

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Speaker 2: Imancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. I want to thank

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Speaker 2: you for being with us.

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Speaker 3: Out of the Blue, Virginia Jaffray's book drops coincidentally the

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Speaker 3: night before Andrew gets stripped of all of his titles.

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Speaker 1: Timing timing, Wow, what timing?

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Speaker 2: And now Prince Andrew's relationship with Jeffrey Epstein and Gilaine Maxwell.

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Speaker 2: It was it was very gently bubbling.

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Speaker 1: It has boiled over.

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Speaker 2: And now the king, as in King Charles, is being

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Speaker 2: heckled because of his baby brother. Listen that from our

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Speaker 2: friends as Sky News. If you couldn't understand the heckler

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Speaker 2: he's yelling out. Have you asked the police to cover

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Speaker 2: up for Andrew? How long have you known about Andrew

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Speaker 2: and Epstein? Look, I'm happily an American. I don't want

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Speaker 2: a king, or a prince or a princess, none of that.

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Speaker 2: That's for Disney, okay, But when you have a book

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Speaker 2: published by a sex trafficking victim, Virginia Geoffrey, and coincidentally

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Speaker 2: that very weak Prince Andrew is stripped of his titles.

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Speaker 2: Don't tell me that her book, posthumously publicized, had nothing

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Speaker 2: to do with Andrew's downfall. My question is how can

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Speaker 2: this help the actual sex molization victims. That's what this

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Speaker 2: is all about. How disgusting is it to Barry Levine

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Speaker 2: joining us He is the author of a brand new book.

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Speaker 2: It's incredible, The Spider inside the tangle web of Jeffrey

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Speaker 2: Epstein and Glaine Maxwell. It's amazing when you hear that

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Speaker 2: Epstein had moved a billion b as in brother billion dollars.

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Speaker 1: Where did he get that?

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Speaker 2: I guarantee you we will discover it's from trafficking little girls,

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Speaker 2: including American little girls. Any little girl is bad enough.

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Speaker 2: Why I said American is because we have jurisdiction over that.

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Speaker 2: I can't help what Turkey and the Stans are doing Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan,

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Speaker 2: what they're doing with their children. I can't prosecute that,

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Speaker 2: but I can help prosecute what was done to American

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Speaker 2: children at the hands of Epstein. A billion dollars Levin,

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Speaker 2: probably more enough to make JP Morgan.

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Speaker 1: Have a multimillion dollar settlement.

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Speaker 2: You know, they would not have done that if there

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Speaker 2: had not been fire underneath that smoke. But Barry Levine,

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Speaker 2: how disgusted must the British public be.

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Speaker 1: About right now?

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Speaker 2: To note that Andrew was still chatting and texting and

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Speaker 2: emailing with Epstein after his Palm Beach conviction, really saying

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Speaker 2: the words will play more soon, I want to vomit

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Speaker 2: play un last little.

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Speaker 4: Girls, Nancy. He said he wanted to continue to have

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Speaker 4: fun with Jeffrey Epstein. That's the word he used, was fun. Now.

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Speaker 4: These email disclosures came after Prince Andrews said that he

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Speaker 4: had cut off all communication with Jeffrey Epstein. He traveled

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Speaker 4: to New York. There was a photos of the two

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Speaker 4: of them in Central Park together. He said that was it.

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Speaker 4: He said, he told Jeffrey Epstein goodbye. Now we're learning

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Speaker 4: and we're seeing emails where Prince Andrew was continuing to

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Speaker 4: communicate with Jeffrey Epstein when the photo of Andrew and

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Speaker 4: Virginia Jeffrey came out standing in Gilay Maxwell's townhouse in London,

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Speaker 4: a photo that Jeffrey Epstein took. Andrew told Epstein, we'll

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Speaker 4: get through this together and then we'll have fun again.

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Speaker 4: It is absolutely disgusting. And I hope now that he

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Speaker 4: just maybe the authorities over there will pull up their

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Speaker 4: pants and actually investigate him. He had a security detail,

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Speaker 4: Special Operations fourteen. They need to be investigated.

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Speaker 2: Well, I can tell you this, Lavaine, if it finally

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Speaker 2: comes to light. They are allegations right now that Prince

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Speaker 2: Andrew ordered Scotland Yard, Scotland Yard be ashamed. And I

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Speaker 1: He asked them.

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Speaker 2: To investigate Virginia Giffrey to smear her when her allegations

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Speaker 2: came out. He misused law enforcement for his own personal

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Speaker 1: Hey, listen to this.

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Speaker 5: Just a few short months after Epstein walks free, Prince

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Speaker 5: Andrew corresponds with a convicted sex offender, promising to make

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Speaker 5: plans for a trip to New York as it would

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Speaker 5: be good to catch up in person. Andrew claims his

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Speaker 5: December trip to Epstein's New York mansion was planned solely

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Speaker 5: to break the news he must cut contact with the financier. However,

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Speaker 5: in a January email to Epstein, Andrew writes, keep in

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Speaker 5: close touch and we'll play some more soon with four exclamation.

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Speaker 2: Points, really straight out to Lynn Shaw. She is in

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Speaker 2: DC right now lobbying fighting for the release of the

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Speaker 2: Epstein files. I never thought i'd see the day when

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Speaker 2: we had to go to Washington and demand a child

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Speaker 2: sex molester's files become public.

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Speaker 1: What is this Russia?

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Speaker 2: China where there are secret dealings behind closed doors. Oh ha,

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Speaker 2: doublel and oh, I ain't shutting up about this. God

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Speaker 2: bless you Lynshaw for being in DC fighting.

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Speaker 1: For the those files.

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Speaker 2: But I want to by the way, Lynshaw founded Director

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Speaker 2: Lyn's Warriors, which is dedicated to eradicating sex trafficking of

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Speaker 2: girls and women and more. But did you notice the

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Speaker 2: way and the timing of Andrew Prince Andrew. It's like

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Speaker 2: I just a hairball trying to say Prince Andrew. The

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Speaker 2: timing is after the Palm Beach debacle, and I'm about

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Speaker 2: to go to Greg Morris, who is joining us from

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Speaker 2: Palm Beach on this after that he knows he knows

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Speaker 2: Epstein is a child molester.

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Speaker 1: He knows that.

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Speaker 2: But that said, play again soon, talk about minimizing pain

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Speaker 2: and suffering.

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Speaker 6: I am disgusted with this whole story. It really means

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Speaker 6: nothing for us in Washington, in the United States, fighting

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Speaker 6: for our victims of not only these criminals but also

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Speaker 6: all victims of sexual exploitation. What it does, Why this

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Speaker 6: does matter, though, is because it keeps it out there,

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Speaker 6: the narrative. It keeps it in the headlines. It keeps

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Speaker 6: people talking about it. But we only care about to

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Speaker 6: be in Washington and to have a client list. The

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Speaker 6: whole thing called a hoax, to have people fighting, to

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Speaker 6: and we're going to release it, and they've done zero.

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Speaker 6: So we demand that they open this up. For America.

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Speaker 6: We want files, we want accountability, we want to bring

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Speaker 7: How about we don't talk about.

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Speaker 6: So many things here in America. There's Zoro Ranch and

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Speaker 6: all of those complicit who participated in that, the buyers

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Speaker 6: of all this. I'm going to call him buyers because

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Speaker 6: I'm sure money was exchanged. Because none of these people

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Speaker 6: do anything unless there's financial incentive monies involved.

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Speaker 7: So you know what this may be great.

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Speaker 6: And Buckingham Palace put out a cute, little nice announcement

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Speaker 6: the other day that they stand with all victims survivors,

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Speaker 6: but you know who didn't sign off on that, Andrew.

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Speaker 6: Andrew is still in denial, so we don't care about him.

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Speaker 6: We care about all the girls and women that have

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Speaker 2: Joining me, Doctor Bethany Marshall, renowned psycho analyst out of

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Speaker 2: LA She's the author of deal Breaker, still waiting on

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Speaker 2: that second book, Bethany Get Kracking. You can see her

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Speaker 2: on Peacock and find her at doctor Bethany Marshall dot com.

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Speaker 2: Doctor Bethany Marshall, I just had a physical reaction as

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Speaker 2: Lynn from Lynn's Warriors was talking. We were showing photos

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Speaker 2: of Epstein, and it was the reaction I often had

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Speaker 2: in court, particularly in child abuse cases.

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Speaker 1: I look over as a defendant.

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Speaker 2: Who was typically on my right side, and the jury

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Speaker 2: would look so smug, like there's no way in HGBL

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Speaker 2: they're going to get caught, and I would actually an

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Speaker 2: he looks so snug in every photo and why not

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Speaker 2: because he's gotten away with this. Would you please tell

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Speaker 2: the listeners what child rape victims go through. They are

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Speaker 2: never the same, and he got away with it for years.

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Speaker 7: Okay, So I agree with Lynn.

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Speaker 8: Forget about Andrew and start thinking about the victims. Too

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Speaker 8: much of the spotlight is on Andrew. I'm going to

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Speaker 8: talk for a second about child victims. Let's not call

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Speaker 8: them the Royal family. This call them the mount Mountains.

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Speaker 8: They are no different than any other family. And if

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Speaker 8: you work for child protective services, you know is you

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Speaker 8: the child protective services worker, oh, you know what, they're no.

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Speaker 7: Longer a part of our family.

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Speaker 8: We've shuffled them off to the side, not going to

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Speaker 7: Back into the mix. So when we think about victims,

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Speaker 8: Their entire family, you know, family systems, and the fact

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Speaker 2: You know, it's like that moment Out to Greg Morse

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Speaker 2: joining us, high profile lawyer, criminel defense attorney, founder of

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Speaker 2: Morse Legal. He is the author of Untested on Amazon.

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Speaker 2: Greg Morse is joining us from the Palmbates jurisdiction. Greg,

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Speaker 2: question to you, now, I'd like a short answer.

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Speaker 1: This is over. You have nothing to fight with me about.

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Speaker 2: The sweetheart deal that Epstain got when in Palm Bay

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Speaker 2: he was prosecuted four molesting little girls, not just one, several.

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Speaker 2: He got a sweetheart dealer tap on the wrist and

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Speaker 2: That was his sentence. And it wasn't a secret Andrew

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Speaker 2: that Andrew wrote all of those emails about playing together.

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Speaker 1: Soon you join. Right, his title should be stripped, he

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Speaker 1: should be prosecuted. What's the hold up Morse?

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Speaker 9: Well, you know, with regard to Prince Andrew or former

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Speaker 9: Prince Andrew. At this time, a lot of time has

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Speaker 9: gone by, so you're trying to arrest or indict some

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Speaker 9: one for acts that were a long time ago. The

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Speaker 9: fact that he kept talking to Jeffrey Epstein after he

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Speaker 9: make him any more guilty of allegations that were made

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Speaker 10: You know.

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Speaker 9: The one thing though, for Prince Andrew or for former

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Speaker 9: Prince Andrew that could be an issue is that he

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Speaker 9: was stripped of his royal title. He may then be

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Speaker 9: stripped of any diplomatic protection. We have an extradition treaty

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Speaker 9: with England. I don't know if those matters will come up.

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Speaker 9: If there is an indictment in America seeking former Prince Andrew,

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Speaker 9: that could be an issue for him. And it also

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Speaker 9: seems like he was removed from the one estate to

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Speaker 9: go to a thirty one square mile estate because of

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Speaker 9: getting prostitutes during a business trip to Thailand.

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Speaker 2: So you actually staging that, leaving a what fifty room

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Speaker 2: the Sandringham estate.

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Speaker 1: That's punishment. No I should just say that.

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Speaker 9: No, we agree on that's a joke. That's the Royal

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Speaker 9: try to do a little bandiate on it with regard

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Speaker 4: But for Andrew's time.

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Speaker 2: Hold on, I got to throw this to Harriet Alexander.

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Speaker 2: Harry Alexander, I want to follow up on what Morse

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Speaker 2: They also threw Fergie Sarah Ferguson out on her ear.

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Speaker 2: Just so Marie Antoinette that said she will want money

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Speaker 2: Dailymail that exposed Prince Andrew's party where they actually had sex, toys,

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Speaker 1: Those were the party favors.

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Speaker 11: Right right, Yeah, that is part of the outrage in

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Speaker 2: me understand what you just said, Harriet Alexander Daily Mail.

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Speaker 11: What happened, right, right, absolutely, So it was a masked

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Speaker 11: This was in two thousand and six, so you know,

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Speaker 11: But still, to invite Weinstein and Epstein to your daughter's

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Speaker 5: The Met Police are investigating claims that Prince Andrew tried

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Speaker 12: I do hope that the authorities will actually pursue some

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Speaker 1: Everyone friends talk TV okay, Harriet.

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Speaker 2: Using the Met which is the Metropolitan Police in Great

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Speaker 2: Virginia's afraid because she has passed away and cannot be

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Speaker 2: the British public want to know.

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Speaker 1: Andrew Lownie, who.

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Speaker 11: Was speaking just then, he is a respected historian, a

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Speaker 11: That might be you might be able to prosecute for that,

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Speaker 13: Crime stories with me Atty Grace, Prince Andrew may face

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Speaker 13: more than just disownment any viction. Republic A pressure group

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Speaker 13: to substantiate the late virgin you need you phrase rape allegations,

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Speaker 13: Andrew could face jail time. I found guilty in the

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Speaker 12: Virginia for his book is very powerful. It really brings

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Speaker 2: From our friends had talked TV to Harriet Alexander, senior

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Speaker 2: little legal jargon at us. Legal jargon, I don't know

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Speaker 2: Harriet Alexander, did you notice when Andrew walked up and

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Speaker 1: Totally legal phrase the turd in the punch.

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Speaker 2: Bowl, right, It was like, oh, they all look away,

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Speaker 2: nobody wants to talk to him. It's very obvious they

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Speaker 1: Book came out.

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Speaker 2: That's all well and good, and he deserves so much

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Speaker 1: To what this group republic is.

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Speaker 2: It's a pressure, a group who wants to, of course

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Speaker 1: What is that?

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Speaker 11: So that is being carried out, as you say, by

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Speaker 2: Private investigator or a founder of Crispin Special Investigations, former

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Speaker 2: Florida mansion. You know, I especially wanted to go to you, Crispin,

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Speaker 1: I'm about had it up to right here.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, in Nancy, I'll tell you there's a lot that

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Speaker 14: You're still right away. He put in plans to Palm

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Speaker 1: Modern home in an area that doesn't have.

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Speaker 14: Any and it's got such character of everything else brought

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Speaker 2: So going forward, a Sanspy and Crispin Paul, I love

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Speaker 2: your monologue on the architecture requests. I'm really really stinking

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Speaker 1: Can we get to.

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Speaker 14: This address used to be three six eight al Brill

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Speaker 14: Everything from grass, the trees, the dirt, the dot has

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Speaker 14: any of these hameless crimes against children that are left

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Speaker 2: You know, it's interesting, so many things, doctor Bethany Marshall.

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Speaker 1: Doctor Bethany Marshall, you just heard Crispin. He's standing out.

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Speaker 2: Did you see that multimillion dollar view that Epstein had,

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Speaker 2: But you know what that view stinks when you think

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Speaker 1: Think about it.

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Speaker 2: You saw You've watched my little girl grow up from

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Speaker 1: You've known her.

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Speaker 2: Can you imagine some pos abusing her in that massa

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Speaker 2: looking out over that beach. They can all go straight

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Speaker 2: But that said, at some point, regular people like me,

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Speaker 2: this continue. They're standing for it over in Great Britain,

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Speaker 1: The White House up on Capitol Hill to try to

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Speaker 1: get some action. I don't get it. They it's Marie

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Speaker 8: You know what's interesting and actually disturbing to me, Nancy,

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Speaker 7: Okay, they're observing something.

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Speaker 8: In their neighborhood that really was criminal and children were

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Speaker 8: abused as young as twelve years of age, And the

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Speaker 8: fact that they would change the address means that they're

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Speaker 8: trying to wash their hands of the whole thing. Why

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Speaker 8: why don't these neighbors come forward, go to court right right?

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Speaker 8: Their local representative and talk a little bit about the

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Speaker 8: cars that they saw coming and going. Who were the car,

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Speaker 8: what was the license plates. I'm sure they have, you know,

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Speaker 8: security cameras on their homes. What did they what do

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Speaker 8: those security cameras.

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Speaker 7: What did they record?

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Speaker 8: So these neighbors who are trying to sanitize their community,

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Speaker 8: it's no different than what I said earlier about any

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Speaker 8: other family that has the lecherous aunt or uncle or somebody,

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Speaker 8: where they try to protect that person rather than coming

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Speaker 8: forward and bringing the ill deeds to light to protect

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Speaker 8: the younger members of the family.

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Speaker 6: So I just really disturbed that these neighbors are taking this.

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Speaker 7: Course of action.

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Speaker 15: The photograph is taken upstairs, and I don't think I

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Speaker 15: have a winch upstairs.

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Speaker 4: It's devastation. He's already lost these titles.

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Speaker 16: He's still a prince, he's no longer the Duke of York,

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Speaker 16: and he's no longer he's royal.

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Speaker 1: Heb excuse me, you know he's lost all his titles.

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Speaker 1: He's living rent free in the royal lodge. I want

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Speaker 1: to hear about any of his suffering.

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Speaker 2: Is a prosecution across the ocean possible for Andrew Stunning

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Speaker 2: revelations over the last seventy two hours. In my mind

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Speaker 2: it means even the royal family smells the stench from

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Speaker 2: Andrew's lies. Now, how does that correlate to action in

472
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Speaker 2: the US? What about a prosecution for manipulating manipulating the

473
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Speaker 2: law enforcement the met Scotland Yard to smear Virginia Jeffrey.

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Speaker 2: That said, now we've got a powerhouse involved in the

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Speaker 2: US that is in the form of major banking institutions

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Speaker 2: are now dragged into this. But to Harriet Alexander, senior

477
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Speaker 2: features writer, deal email dot com, what's the possibility now

478
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Speaker 2: that the British public smells blood there will be a

479
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Speaker 2: prosecution or will it be covered up for at least

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Speaker 2: Andrew allegedly using the met Metropolitan Police in Scotland yard

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Speaker 2: to smear Giffrey.

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Speaker 11: So it's certainly something that a lot of people want

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Speaker 11: looking into about whether Andrew, as alleged, did pressure his

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Speaker 11: private security officer to look into Virginia Roberts Giufrey to

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Speaker 11: see if he could dig up dirt and discredit her.

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Speaker 11: I think that's something that authorities in the UK will

487
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Speaker 11: be under a lot of pressure to investigate. I think

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Speaker 11: there's also growing questions about about why is not why

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Speaker 11: more is not being done in the United States, because

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Speaker 11: I think, you know, to Lind's point, that this keeps

491
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Speaker 11: everything in the news, It's got every body talking about it,

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Speaker 11: and it heaps pressure on the US authorities to release

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Speaker 11: more of their files. Because it's worth noting that so

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Speaker 11: far the only people who have really faced significant penalties

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Speaker 11: in a way are Andrew Gilaane Maxwell who's in prison,

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Speaker 11: Peter mc Andlson, who was the fabassador to Washington, d C.

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Speaker 1: He lost his job over this because he.

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Speaker 11: Was friends with Epstein, and an American banker, Jess Staley,

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Speaker 11: who was working at JP Morgan. He was in London

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Speaker 11: with Barclay's Bank and he lost his job as a

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Speaker 11: result of the work that he did with Epstein at

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Speaker 11: JP Morgan back then.

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Speaker 1: So there are things happening in the UK.

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Speaker 11: But I think people owned even in the UK, are

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Speaker 11: beginning to ask why more is not being done in

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Speaker 11: the US to pursue people who were supporting.

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Speaker 1: Epstein and in some cases clients.

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Speaker 2: I agree, those supporting Epstein and he has child said

509
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Speaker 2: trafficking that would be reportedly the Bank of America and

510
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Speaker 2: the Bank of New York.

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Speaker 1: Mellon and J. P.

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Speaker 2: Morgan enter Barry Levine, who has documented endlessly the spider

513
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Speaker 2: inside the tangle web of Jeffrey Epstein, Angelane Maxwell, listen

514
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Speaker 2: to this, Mary.

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Speaker 17: New lawsuits shed light on Epstein's trafficking ring. Anonymous plaintives

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Speaker 17: file against Bank of America and Bank of New York Mellon,

517
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Speaker 17: claiming the institutions illicitly enabled Epstein's trafficking. Both banks accused

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Speaker 17: of ignoring the illegal activity. Bank of America turning a

519
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Speaker 17: blind eye to Epstein's use of a victim's account to

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Speaker 17: pay her and other victims off, and Mellon failing to

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Speaker 17: flag nearly three hundred and seventy eight million dollars in

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Speaker 17: victim payments as suspicious.

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Speaker 2: Three hundred and seventy eight million dollars for victim payments

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Speaker 2: and nobody said a word. In a nutshell, Barry Levine,

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Speaker 2: I'm just a trial lawyer. Break it down for me

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Speaker 2: what the banks allegedly did wrong.

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Speaker 4: What the banks did wrong, Nancy, was that they looked

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Speaker 4: the other way. Going back to two thousand and two,

529
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Speaker 4: over over one billion dollars of moneys that Jeffrey Epstein

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Speaker 4: withdrew to pay off enablers around the world and also

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Speaker 4: to pay off victims. These suspicious activity reports were completely

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Speaker 4: you know, red lights for multiple banks, but because Jeffrey

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Speaker 4: Epstein brought in so many of his wealthy clients, these

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Speaker 4: banks managed to look the other way, and this sex

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Speaker 4: trafficking was able to continue for two decades. It's only

536
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Speaker 4: now that we're finally looking back at all of the

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Speaker 4: financial reports and Representative Tom Massey is hoping to prosecute

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Speaker 4: nineteen men that he has identified who were sex trafficked to.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Barry, You're super smart. Book is amazing. I said,

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Speaker 2: dummy down, You didn't really, dummy down. What I think

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Speaker 2: you just said is these banks knew Epstein was conducting

542
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Speaker 2: nefarious activity, specifically child trafficking, child six trafficking, and on

543
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Speaker 2: the money flow following the money, you can determine who

544
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Speaker 2: was sending him girls as young as twelve and.

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Speaker 1: Who he was paying.

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Speaker 2: That is the significance of those financial transactions. What dummy

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Speaker 2: down can I learn? I would have to work with

548
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Speaker 2: you a really long time to put you on the stand. Okay,

549
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Speaker 2: no offense, but you're just too smart for the rest

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Speaker 2: of us. Again, dummy down, What can I learn? One, two,

551
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Speaker 2: three from these financial transactions. And you know they did

552
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Speaker 2: it because they entered multimillion dollar.

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Speaker 1: Settlements to make it go away.

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Speaker 2: Right, So what am I going to get for the

555
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Speaker 2: financial transactions?

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Speaker 4: What we're getting, Nancy, from the financial transactions is actual

557
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Speaker 4: details and dates of the men and payments that Jeffrey Epstein.

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Speaker 2: Made crime Stories with Nancy Grace, And unlike the Jeffreight molestation,

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Speaker 2: Sidney Summer joining Me Crime Stories Investigative Reporter, a lot

560
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Speaker 2: of these child molesters victims are still alive. Some of

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Speaker 2: them are the ones marching on Capitol Hill to get

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Speaker 2: the Epstein files released. They're alive, they can testify unless

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Speaker 2: they commit suicide.

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Speaker 1: Sidney absolutely, Nancy.

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Speaker 10: Remember the victims hosted a press conference on Capitol Hill

566
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Speaker 10: just a few weeks ago, and the stories were horrendous.

567
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Speaker 10: Woman after woman stepped up to that microphone and shared

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Speaker 10: what they experienced under Epstein's sexual abuse. So there are

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Speaker 10: many women who are still alive, available, wanting to give

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Speaker 10: their testimony, and working on compiling their own list of

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Speaker 10: Epstein's clients.

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Speaker 15: I don't believe it's a picture of me in London

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Speaker 15: because when I go out to when I go out

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Speaker 15: in London, I wear a suit.

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Speaker 16: And a tie. That's what I would describe as those

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Speaker 16: are my traveling clothes.

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Speaker 1: That's me.

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Speaker 15: But whether that's my hand or whether that's the position,

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Speaker 15: but I don't. I have simply no recollection of a

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Speaker 15: photograph ever being taken right.

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Speaker 1: From our friends at ABC.

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Speaker 2: In the last seventy two hours, Prince Andrew has been

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Speaker 2: kicked out of the Royal Lodge and been stripped of

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Speaker 2: all of his titles.

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Speaker 1: But is that enough?

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Speaker 2: The British public says no, and sex simlization victims say

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Speaker 2: we want him prosecuted on us soil, move a foot

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Speaker 2: on Capitol Hill asking answer to come voluntarily to testify

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Speaker 2: and proceedings. No one is going to forget this, largely

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Speaker 2: because of this.

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Speaker 1: Woman that you said, take off your clothes.

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Speaker 18: I had these little girl undies on, like little hearts

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Speaker 18: on them, I remember, and they were laughing at that

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Speaker 18: because they liked that the younger you look, the better

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Speaker 18: it is.

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Speaker 7: It turns it turns very sexual.

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Speaker 18: And it was abuse straight away from both of them.

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Speaker 18: And sometimes he would just in front of them and

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Speaker 18: rub his nipples. Sometimes he would have intercourse with them.

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Speaker 18: Sometimes he'd make them you know, give him.

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Speaker 2: Laughing at a little girl because she has flowers on her underwear.

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Speaker 1: That's for our friends at Lifetime and Miami, Harold. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know, all of this legal.

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Speaker 2: Back and forth, extradition, the Prince Royal Lodge, blah blah.

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Speaker 2: Robert Crispin joining us outside what was once Epstein's Florida mansion.

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Speaker 2: You've done a lot of advice, including child prostitution.

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Speaker 1: That's what it boils down to. That's what this is about.

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Speaker 2: Up staining all of his rich clients that made this possible.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, they certainly facilitated all this. And I would subject

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Speaker 14: or I would suggest that there's some more charges coming

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Speaker 14: down the road. And I think he was stripped of

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Speaker 14: everything overseas and these titles overseas because the way family knows,

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Speaker 14: and they've been meeting or speaking with the government, that

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Speaker 14: charges are about to come down and it's going to

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Speaker 14: look a lot better for their family when they say, hey,

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Speaker 14: he's no longer part of our friendly we've stripped him

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Speaker 14: of everything.

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Speaker 2: I mean to Mary Levine joining us authors despite or

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Speaker 2: inside the tangled web of Jeffrey Epstein and the Lane

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Speaker 2: Maxwell two hundred and ninety million dollars was a settlement

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Speaker 2: from JP Morgan Chase two hundred and ninety million dollars,

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Speaker 2: and they agreed to implement anti sex trafficking measures. A bank,

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Speaker 2: a bank, a respectable bank, in the middle of a

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Speaker 2: child sex trafficking scheme that should speak volumes to everybody.

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Speaker 2: If that bank JP Morgan Chase paid nearly three hundred

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Speaker 2: million dollars to make this go away, there's fire because

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Speaker 2: I see smoke Levine.

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Speaker 4: Yea, and listen, Nancy. It's sad to think that that

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Speaker 4: bank that three hundred million bucks to them. It's a

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Speaker 4: drop in the bucket to them for the amount of

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Speaker 4: money that Jeffrey Epstein helped them make over the decades

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Speaker 4: by bringing in is billionaire buddies to at their money

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Speaker 4: in their bank. But the fact is, if there's any

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Speaker 4: one thing that's a positive out of this, is that

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Speaker 4: those bank records are now finally getting in the possession

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Speaker 4: of the authorities who can go through each and every

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Speaker 4: line and look at these suspicious payments that Jeffrey Epstein

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Speaker 4: made and go after these men. Representative Thomas Massey knows

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Speaker 4: of nineteen men. Senator Ryan Widen has identified one billion

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00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 4: dollars in suspicious wire transfers that Jeffrey Epstein made. And

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Speaker 4: this was money didn't only go through the US banks.

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Speaker 4: Jeffrey Epstein was also moving money through Russian banks, and

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Speaker 4: his executors of his estate complicated things for years. They

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Speaker 4: created one hundred and fifty different bank account for Jeffrey

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Speaker 4: Epstein to move his money through. So this was a

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Speaker 4: wild maze and a wild web. And now it's only

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Speaker 4: now that investigators are going through this. Let's hope that

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Speaker 4: there's financial crimes that they can pinpoint and go after

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00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 4: these men not only in the US, but the men

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Speaker 4: who put the little girls on the planes to the

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Speaker 4: virgin Islands, who are overseas, who took money from Jeffrey Epstein.

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Speaker 2: Making millions of dollars from child sex trafficking. Epstein and

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Speaker 2: Andrew is in the MiGs.

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Speaker 1: But we are also learning this what is wrong with

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Speaker 1: this woman? Listen.

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Speaker 5: Virginia Verse likens Glene Maxwell to Mary Poppins, but later

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Speaker 5: learns Maxwell as a prideful, jealous woman. Virginia describes Maxwell's

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Speaker 5: cruelty during three sumes, with Epstein slapping and hurting Virginia

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Speaker 5: to assert her dominance. Maxwell also loves to brag about

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Speaker 5: previous romps, wants positively giddy to share. She performed a

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Speaker 5: sex act on George Clooney in a bathroom at a party.

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Speaker 2: Okay again, I need a shrink and a drink, and

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Speaker 2: says I don't have a drink.

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Speaker 1: I'll go with a shrink, Bethany, What is wrong with her?

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Speaker 2: Of course Clooney denies this, but what is that ragging

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Speaker 2: shape performance sex act on Clooney?

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Speaker 8: Why you know, Nancy, there's so much that's wrong with this.

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Speaker 8: I mean, obviously their lives are completely sexualized.

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Speaker 7: That's how they relate to everybody.

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Speaker 8: This this laughing at Virgina Geoffrey because she had little

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Speaker 8: hearts on her underwear. That's actually is sadism. That's taking

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Speaker 8: pain and causing pleasure. I mean, I'm sorry, taking pleasure

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Speaker 8: and causing pain to another human being. I think Gilan

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Speaker 8: Maxwell loved to have dominance over other women.

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Speaker 7: I think she was envious and jealous of them. I

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Speaker 7: think she thought that they had it coming to them, and.

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Speaker 8: I think it was sexually arousing to her that they

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Speaker 8: were humiliated. I mean, and this is what we see

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Speaker 8: in all of these sex cults, that you have this

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Speaker 8: fearless leader that recruits other women who then dominates the

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Speaker 8: women under them. And the actual domination is what is

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Speaker 8: sexually exciting to We use the word middleman.

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Speaker 7: This is the middle woman.

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Speaker 8: The middle woman finds it sexually exciting to dominate more

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Speaker 8: submissive females.

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Speaker 1: I can't have racked my brain.

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Speaker 16: I'm thinking, Oh, and I've said consistently and frequently that

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Speaker 16: we never had any sort of sexual contact.

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Speaker 2: Whatever, Queen Elizabeth Rowling and her Gray from our friends

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Speaker 2: at BBC, we remember an American hero, Deputy Sheriff John

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Speaker 2: Moon Waller County Sheriff's Texas, killed in the line of

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Speaker 2: duty after twenty three years serving and protecting, leaving behind

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Speaker 2: a grief stricken son.

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Speaker 1: American hero Deputy Sheriff John Loone. Nancy Gray signing off

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Speaker 1: goodbye friend,