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Speaker 1: Good from Iowa State University, the Iowa State University Electric

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Speaker 1: Car Program, is going to be joining us right now

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Speaker 1: and he's here to talk to us about well solar

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Speaker 1: to find out what one is versus the other and

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00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:31,760
Speaker 1: then start to do the math, you know, in terms

431
00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:35,440
Speaker 1: of how it's going to affect it. Now, if if

432
00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:39,760
Speaker 1: the gear ratio was available for that year vehicle, so

433
00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:41,159
Speaker 1: you know, if it's from an O two to an

434
00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:43,920
Speaker 1: O two, and you know one's a three oh eight

435
00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:48,639
Speaker 1: and the other ones and three seventy three's and the

436
00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:51,080
Speaker 1: ones that I'll be putting in on the three seventies threes,

437
00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:55,399
Speaker 1: and that one also has limited SLIPT okay, so you know,

438
00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:57,760
Speaker 1: if that was an option, you should be able to

439
00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:01,159
Speaker 1: go in and programs set it up for that particular

440
00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,439
Speaker 1: gear ratio. I don't see why you can't do that

441
00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:06,280
Speaker 1: using a ford I D s um. There's there's got

442
00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:09,040
Speaker 1: to be a way to change the as built data

443
00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:13,360
Speaker 1: within the vehicle. You know, it shouldn't be an impossibility.

444
00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:16,000
Speaker 1: But you know otherwise, yes, you are going to have

445
00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:17,639
Speaker 1: you know, the speedo will be US, the A B

446
00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:21,040
Speaker 1: S will be off. Um, you'll actually affect engine operations.

447
00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:24,200
Speaker 1: So there there should be the ability to change that. UM.

448
00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:27,160
Speaker 1: I would verify that with your local Ford store and

449
00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:28,720
Speaker 1: just tell them what you're planning to do. And you

450
00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:31,159
Speaker 1: know they'll probably charge in hour's time to hook up

451
00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:32,840
Speaker 1: the I D S and reprogram it. But you know

452
00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:34,280
Speaker 1: for a hundred bucks or whatever they get for a

453
00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:36,919
Speaker 1: labor rate. Uh, you know, it's it's you. You know,

454
00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,879
Speaker 1: it's clearly the way to go because in your case,

455
00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:42,560
Speaker 1: it's not just rebuilding the rear, it's also now you're

456
00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:45,000
Speaker 1: gonna have a limited slip, which is obviously up there

457
00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:48,639
Speaker 1: in Maine in the snow. UM, a better deal. All right, now,

458
00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:52,080
Speaker 1: let me ask D into the dealership. You think say

459
00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:54,199
Speaker 1: that again? Well, can I put the gear and in

460
00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:56,399
Speaker 1: and drive it to the dealership? Yeah, I would think so,

461
00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:58,240
Speaker 1: I would think so. I don't think. I don't think

462
00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:02,080
Speaker 1: that's necessarily an issue. Is is the are the transfer

463
00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:07,600
Speaker 1: cases the same style? Yeah? Um? You know if if

464
00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:09,920
Speaker 1: if one's a shift on the flies, the other a

465
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:15,240
Speaker 1: shift on the fly okay, because that would be you know,

466
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:19,840
Speaker 1: I look at the manufacturers always have a reason why

467
00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,399
Speaker 1: they build something the way they do, not a question

468
00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:24,800
Speaker 1: of right or wrong. They've always got a reason. So

469
00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,720
Speaker 1: if one's got three seventy whatever, three seventy three and

470
00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:29,239
Speaker 1: the other ones are three fifty five and it had

471
00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:31,760
Speaker 1: two different transfer cases, I'd say, well, maybe that's got

472
00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:36,120
Speaker 1: something to do with it. But you know, in this case,

473
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:38,119
Speaker 1: it's just one was probably an open diff and the

474
00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:41,240
Speaker 1: other one was a limited slipper a locker, and you

475
00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:43,080
Speaker 1: know it was just checking off the box on the

476
00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,880
Speaker 1: order sheet. And and I'm sure they can do that.

477
00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:49,320
Speaker 1: Uh you know, at are the engines the same or

478
00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:53,840
Speaker 1: as one of the eight one six? Yeah, that's the catch.

479
00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:56,800
Speaker 1: That's that's going to be the catch. And I ventured

480
00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:59,520
Speaker 1: to guess the the V eight has the three seventy

481
00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:03,000
Speaker 1: three yea, yeah, right, that was in like the Eddie

482
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:08,399
Speaker 1: Bauer style truck there. Right. So then the other question

483
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 1: I've got is, you know, are the trans is the same. Yeah,

484
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,520
Speaker 1: they both have the five speed trans right, Okay, well,

485
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:17,800
Speaker 1: you know as long as they're both the same, because

486
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,679
Speaker 1: my experience has been that the V eight has a

487
00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:24,160
Speaker 1: different trans than the V six. And I'm not saying

488
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,760
Speaker 1: that's a bad thing, but you are going to wind

489
00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 1: the little V six out a little tighter then you

490
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:33,000
Speaker 1: will with the Although it makes more sense, you know,

491
00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,200
Speaker 1: I still follow the school of thought that the small

492
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,760
Speaker 1: block can wind higher than the big block. Um, so

493
00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:39,600
Speaker 1: you would think that the V eight could the V

494
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:41,600
Speaker 1: six could wind higher than the V eight. But I

495
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:44,439
Speaker 1: guess you know, technology is changing, and um you know

496
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:47,040
Speaker 1: that way of thinking doesn't apply anymore. But I would

497
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:49,239
Speaker 1: just say that if you can change it through an

498
00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:51,400
Speaker 1: I D S or you can change it through programming,

499
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:53,040
Speaker 1: then yeah, I don't see any reason why you can't

500
00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:56,720
Speaker 1: do it. Absolutely all right, we give the dealership a call.

501
00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,800
Speaker 1: You know. One other thing about the same truck when

502
00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:01,879
Speaker 1: you're first stopped this thing. Ever since I got it,

503
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,159
Speaker 1: we've been driving it for quite a while now, is

504
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:07,200
Speaker 1: a pretty good clatter that comes out from under the hood.

505
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 1: It sounds like it's a on the driver's side of

506
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:12,359
Speaker 1: the top of the engine, you know, so like a lifter,

507
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 1: like a lifter clatter, and not really. I mean, I

508
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:17,920
Speaker 1: would have thought it was a belt tension or something.

509
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 1: With the slap and noise that it kind of makes

510
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,640
Speaker 1: um have you Have you tried taking the belt off

511
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 1: and starting it? Yeah, it still does It still does it.

512
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:30,920
Speaker 1: So it's internal in the engine. Hundred thousand miles it's

513
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 1: been doing it now is this? Is this the four

514
00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:37,080
Speaker 1: lead uh, single overhead cam, dual overhead cam, UH, the

515
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:41,479
Speaker 1: signal overhead cam, single overhead cam. So you know, if

516
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:43,439
Speaker 1: it's been doing it for a hundred thousand miles and

517
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:47,119
Speaker 1: it hasn't changed in sound, you know, it's in frequency

518
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,600
Speaker 1: and duration. You know, you can start to take it

519
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,280
Speaker 1: apart for an exploratory but what do you expect to

520
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,320
Speaker 1: find that you can hope to you know, at this

521
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 1: point I'd let it go. You're just be aware of it.

522
00:25:57,119 --> 00:26:00,199
Speaker 1: You know. Could it be related to oil filter and

523
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:04,399
Speaker 1: drain back valve? Um? Well, I'm asking that. I'm just

524
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:05,879
Speaker 1: thinking off the top of my head, Corey. You know,

525
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,160
Speaker 1: could it be that maybe I don't know what oil

526
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 1: filter you're using. Maybe it's got an improper drain back

527
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:12,680
Speaker 1: valve on it and oil bleeds down and it takes

528
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,119
Speaker 1: a little bit of time for it too to build

529
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:19,000
Speaker 1: up pressure. Yeah, I'll do another, try another filter on it.

530
00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 1: You know what what brand of oil filter? Are you using?

531
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 1: Do you know? I usually okay, you know, maybe ask

532
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:27,639
Speaker 1: them maybe they've got a you know, maybe they got

533
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 1: an issue with drain back. I would tell you to

534
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 1: take a look at the Wicks filter. You've got an

535
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 1: O'Reilly oota parts up there by. You get over to

536
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:37,200
Speaker 1: an o'reillyota parts. Tell me want a Wicks filter? Um,

537
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:39,760
Speaker 1: and you know, get the right oil for it, and

538
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,560
Speaker 1: let's see what that does. Um, you know, maybe this

539
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 1: is a drain back issue. And um, you know it's uh.

540
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:48,600
Speaker 1: In all the classes I've been going too lately, and

541
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 1: lately I've been hitting the books really hard. And you

542
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:53,120
Speaker 1: know it's funny. I thought i'd be winding it down

543
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:54,960
Speaker 1: now now I'm starting to get back into well, I

544
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,720
Speaker 1: guess I gotta go to class twice as much. One

545
00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 1: of the things I'm really amazed at is how tight

546
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 1: all the tolerances are getting and all the areas for abuse,

547
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 1: for lack of a better way to put it, are shrinking.

548
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 1: And in terms of parts, in terms of fluids, in

549
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 1: terms of application, in terms of how we're going to

550
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 1: repair and work on these vehicles, it's all changing, and

551
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 1: it's changing right in front of my eyes. So you

552
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:26,159
Speaker 1: know it's it's no more junk parts. Uh, you know,

553
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 1: no more garbage. Got to use the good stuff. And um,

554
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:30,879
Speaker 1: the people that want to use the junk, we just

555
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:32,879
Speaker 1: show them the door. It's just not worth the aggravation

556
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 1: anymore so. But anyway, good luck to you, Corey. Let

557
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 1: me know how it works out. If you need more help,

558
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 1: you you give us a call. All right, you're welcome, sir. Oh,

559
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:47,359
Speaker 1: we will absolutely positively eight five five five zero zero zero.

560
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 1: Ron and any in the car Doctor, I'm coming right back.

561
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 1: Don't go away. Welcome back the car Doctor. Five zero

562
00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 1: nine zero zero. Give us a call, or give us

563
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:01,680
Speaker 1: a call where we're not on the air and leave

564
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:03,639
Speaker 1: a message and Tom Ray or producer, we'll call you

565
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:05,359
Speaker 1: back and get you in the loop. Let's get over

566
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 1: and talk to Joe Augusta Main eight eight Cadillac and

567
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 1: some issues with noise from the lift area. Joe. Welcome

568
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:13,880
Speaker 1: to the Car Doctor, sir. How can I help? Oh?

569
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:15,920
Speaker 1: Thank you very much. I enjoy the show. You're welcome.

570
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 1: Thank you. The lift noise appeared maybe ever ten thousand

571
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 1: miles ago, and I couldn't seem to find a mechanic

572
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 1: that I wanted to deal with it. I did find

573
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 1: somebody locally that had worked at a GM dealership with Cadillacs,

574
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 1: and when they closed, he has his own garagh Um.

575
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 1: He changed some rocker pivots I think they're called recently

576
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 1: on the when you're looking at the motor in the car,

577
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 1: it would be towards the firewall, and that seemed to help. Uh.

578
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 1: I took it in a week or so later for

579
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 1: an oil change because it was due and we just

580
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 1: didn't have time when he did that the first time,

581
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 1: so the noise seemed to come back, and we've discussed

582
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,920
Speaker 1: it and he just kind of just about what to do.

583
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 1: We thought one of them was a lifter that wasn't

584
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 1: you know, was was making some noise. But anyway, we're

585
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 1: I'm just kind of stuck with the car. I like

586
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 1: it a lot, It goes great, but let me to

587
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 1: find a used car up here that doesn't have a

588
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 1: lot of rosts and stuff. And this one's been great

589
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:21,480
Speaker 1: for me. But I'm wondering what options, you know, whether

590
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 1: it would be worth it to do some more internal

591
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 1: work or look at a replacement motor, or just give

592
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 1: up on it. I'm not sure. Well, you know, Here's

593
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 1: here's the deal. This is a front wheel drive to Ville. Correct, Yes,

594
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 1: all right, so this is this is the four nine.

595
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 1: It was a four nine, wasn't it. Or is it

596
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 1: a four or five? It's a four or five? Right, okay,

597
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 1: But this is the h this is the all aluminum

598
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,720
Speaker 1: engine that's gonna be It's gonna lead Cadillac to the

599
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 1: next generation. Uh huh um. You know, I'll be candid

600
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 1: with you, Joe, because you know I'm not and I'm

601
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 1: not gonna I'm not gonna beach up. I'm just gonna

602
00:29:57,760 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 1: tell it to you like I remember it. When the

603
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 1: came out I was working for I was at the

604
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 1: shop was located within the Limousine and Hers company, so

605
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 1: I had I worked on a lot of these. Um.

606
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 1: You know, we actually had a corner of a building

607
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 1: that this is what was just thirty something years ago,

608
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 1: right forty years ago. Um. You know, the life cycle

609
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 1: of a fort and THET Catty engines at the time

610
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 1: was about thirty tho miles. If one made it past

611
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,959
Speaker 1: fifty it was like a miracle, it really was. It

612
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 1: was bad. Yeah, So you know, I'm stunned to hear

613
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 1: one almost forty years later with you know, a hundred

614
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 1: and fifty thousand miles on it. That is unheard of

615
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 1: because this is an engine that has a little durability

616
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 1: and long lasting of a potato chip rolling around in

617
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 1: the Atlantic Ocean. It just it just has none um

618
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 1: you know. So to start throwing a little bit of

619
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 1: money at this and trying to repair one noise, I

620
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 1: think is a folly because what's next? Uh, you know,

621
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 1: unless you happen to get the one that General Motors

622
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 1: released that doesn't have long term problems, I'd be stunned

623
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 1: if something else doesn't start to happen somewhere else down

624
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 1: the line. You know. Some of the problems with these

625
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 1: were the intake manifold bolts always loosened up, and the

626
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 1: car would come in for the first thirty I can

627
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 1: remember this like it was yesterday. The car would come

628
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 1: in for its first thirty thousand mile service, and as

629
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 1: part of that thirty thirty service, the mechanic would always

630
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 1: retork the intake manifold bolts, and if they weren't, if

631
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 1: they weren't torked in proper sequence, by the time the

632
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 1: car made it out the door, they had pulled the

633
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 1: block back square so to speak, that the two by

634
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 1: four took a sag to it and and retorking the

635
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 1: intake manifold, because all the parts of that engine depend

636
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 1: upon each other to maintain integral strength and square, so

637
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 1: to speak. By the time the car made it out

638
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 1: the door after the intake manifold torque, the center rot

639
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 1: the center crank bearing would spin. That was the thrust

640
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 1: bearing on that, and it would the knock would go away,

641
00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,479
Speaker 1: or the knock would get louder. And they're putting an

642
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 1: engine in the car. That being said, if you really

643
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Speaker 1: love the car, see if you can find an engine.

644
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 1: And I say it like that, see because to my knowledge,

645
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 1: about fifteen years ago, they stopped reproducing that engine. I

646
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 1: don't I don't know of too many people that are

647
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 1: rebuilding it. Uh, you know the the the only one

648
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 1: that I think of that could come to mind is

649
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 1: maybe Jasper their online Jaspper Engines dot com or whatever

650
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 1: their website is. You know, they're a national rebuilder. I

651
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 1: have no direct experience with them, um, other than I

652
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 1: see guys using them from time to time. We don't

653
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 1: see a lot of engines coming in and out of

654
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 1: cars anymore, you know. But you're gonna be shocked at

655
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 1: what you'll spend. You know, you know it's gonna be

656
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 1: somewhere in the three or four thousand dollar range, without

657
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 1: even thinking just for the engine, uh, you know, and

658
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 1: then then with labor it will be six grand. You're

659
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 1: ready to put six grand in an eight eight Cadillac? No,

660
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 1: you know, it's right, It just becomes ludicrous. So the

661
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 1: question becomes how deep is the problem? Listen, I gotta

662
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 1: tell you, Um, I'm impressed that your mechanic would actually

663
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 1: make the effort to do the rockers and try. You know,

664
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 1: you know I probably would have done the same thing,

665
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 1: but I would have given you the caveat. And I'm

666
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 1: hoping he did the same thing too, so that there's

667
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 1: no hard feelings between the two of you. That he

668
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 1: was very upfront and that he had some experience with

669
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 1: you know, this was a very common thing and occasionally

670
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 1: they could you know, when he gave me a price

671
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 1: and it was just you know, it was like it's

672
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 1: worth a try. Absolutely, It's just it really comes back to,

673
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 1: you know, how deep do you want to go and

674
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 1: is it really worth it? But um, if it's not

675
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 1: a super terrible noise and it's just gonna be a

676
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 1: clatter for a while. Drive it till it stopped, just

677
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 1: to make sure you're no place bad when it does.

678
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 1: But um uh, you know, to put more money in it,

679
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 1: it's going to get very, very, very very expensive. I

680
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 1: think I would take the five grand and when an

681
00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 1: engine would probably become and try and find a Southern

682
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 1: California in your car that's got twenty thousand miles on it,

683
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 1: and at least you'll probably get ten thousand more out

684
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 1: of it, if you know what I'm saying. Something else

685
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 1: that won't have rust on it. Joe, Good luck to you,

686
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 1: and thanks for listening up there in Augusta, Maine, zero

687
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 1: nine zero roniny and the car doctor coming back right

688
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 1: after this. Welcome back. Let's get over and talk to

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Speaker 1: Frank like Placid, Florida Toyota at the Colma. Yes, Frank,

690
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:29,360
Speaker 1: how can I help? Yes, sir, I got this Toyota

691
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 1: runs perfect. I don't have any problems with it. Have

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00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 1: always changed the oil. I got a flicking here, old Nie.

693
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 1: So that's looking at it and making hints and maybe

694
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 1: that's gonna be her first car. Good thinking of as possible?

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00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 1: Why not? What I'm uh, Who's gonna do is maybe

696
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 1: get a painted to get the interior done and clean

697
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:53,360
Speaker 1: it up and can look good. But when I'm wondering

698
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 1: its what's the next shoe to fall? She? Is there

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00:34:56,600 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 1: any preemptive repairs I need to do? Inside the engine? Which?

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00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 1: Which engine? Which engine? Is this frank four cylinder? Uh? Um?

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00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 1: I can't get it in my head. Timing belt, timing chain?

702
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:14,880
Speaker 1: You know there's a if there's a if there's a

703
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 1: timing belt motor. By all means, i'd make sure the

704
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 1: belt was done in proper sequence. I think this is good.

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00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 1: I think this is a chain motor. Though this strikes

706
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:24,360
Speaker 1: me as a chain car. Um off the top of

707
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 1: my head. I would just tell you to go through

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00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 1: normal maintenance. Check all the fluids, the usual suspect filters,

709
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:31,799
Speaker 1: spark plugs, that kind of stuff, Give her a clean car,

710
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 1: and um, you know, let her, let her have it.

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00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 1: I you know they're strong. There's no reason why the

712
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 1: car won't go another two hundred thousand miles with proper care. Uh.

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00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 1: You know, I wouldn't be afraid of the mileage. I

714
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:45,800
Speaker 1: would keep her on a short leash and explain it

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00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:47,319
Speaker 1: to her. You know, it's an older car. It's got

716
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,279
Speaker 1: some miles on it, um, you know. But I'll fix

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00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:51,759
Speaker 1: it up, just like you said. I'll fix it up.

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00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 1: I'll paint it, I'll clean up the interior. What I

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00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 1: always do to get kids interested in the car that

720
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give them or sell them, or you know,

721
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,880
Speaker 1: get them involved with tell her you put a stereo

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00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 1: in it for she can pick it out and she's

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Speaker 1: got X number of dollars to spend on it, provided

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Speaker 1: she helps you clean the car up. That way, she

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00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 1: kind of gets a field for it and appreciates the

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00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,799
Speaker 1: piece of machinery. So that would be my thought, good idea.

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Speaker 1: It's Frank, I'm not an ani in the car doctor.

728
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Speaker 1: The mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. Let's see you