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Today Bloomberg, Lahs, stud Rosso and Greg Sture 7 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 1: discussed the election of Robert Muller to lead the Justice 8 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 1: Department investigation into Russian interference in the US presidential election. 9 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:32,160 Speaker 1: They speak with former Massachusetts Governor William Weld and William Banks, 10 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:35,880 Speaker 1: director of the Institute for National Security and counter Terrorism 11 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 1: at Syracuse Law School. Director Banks, the office into which 12 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 1: he is stepping is different from the office occupied by 13 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:50,239 Speaker 1: independent councils like Kenneth Starr and Lawrence Walsh, and I 14 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 1: wanted you to explain just what the differences are, how 15 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 1: he is not entirely separate from the Justice Department. It's 16 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 1: a good question because of is Bob Mueller. The differences 17 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 1: that we can identify now aren't going to matter so 18 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 1: much because of his tremendous integrity and the reputation that 19 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 1: he brings to this assignment. That said, the regulations now 20 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:18,639 Speaker 1: are Justice Department regulations. So unlike the independent councils of old, 21 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: the Lawrence Walsh and ken Starr investigations and others, this 22 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 1: one is not authorized by statute. It's authorized by the 23 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 1: department itself. So in theory and in practice, Mueller will 24 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 1: report to the Attorney General Governor. Well, one difference is 25 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:38,680 Speaker 1: that ken Starr could not be fired by the president. 26 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 1: Um As if I understand this correctly, Donald Trump could 27 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 1: actually direct that that Bob Muller be fired. Do you 28 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 1: think that will affect his work, make it more difficult 29 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 1: for him? No, it's not going to slow him down 30 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 1: one iota because he wouldn't care if somebody did the 31 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: wrong thing and and fired him. He's just going to 32 00:01:57,520 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 1: get to the bottom of it. He would be a 33 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 1: complete terrier. Uh. And as I say, it's gonna be, 34 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 1: it's gonna be even handed, I would expect. And by 35 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:08,920 Speaker 1: the way, special counsel don't have to indict anybody just 36 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:12,359 Speaker 1: because they have that power. And and you know, when 37 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 1: I was head of the Criminal Division and Main Justice, 38 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 1: I operated under that uh independent council statute and my 39 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 1: memory is more often than not no charges were filed, 40 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 1: So people shouldn't rush to assume that they're going to 41 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 1: be criminal indictments out of this. Uh my, My guess 42 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 1: is that under all the circumstances, uh, Mr Mueller might 43 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:35,799 Speaker 1: find it appropriate to issue a report of his findings 44 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 1: with the FBI's findings at the end of the investigation, 45 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 1: which he certainly has the power to do. I mean, 46 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 1: even a grand jury can issue a report of its 47 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:47,399 Speaker 1: findings if it if it wants to, and that would 48 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 1: I think make everybody feel better. And that's former Massachusetts 49 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:54,119 Speaker 1: Governor William Wild and William Banks, director of the Institute 50 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 1: for National Security and counter Terrorism at Syracuse Law School, 51 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 1: speaking with Bloomberg Lahost doing Grass and Gregg's Store. You 52 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:03,519 Speaker 1: can listen to Bloomberg Law weekdays at one pm Wall 53 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:06,639 Speaker 1: Street Time here on Bloomberg Radio Now. Among the top 54 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 1: legal stories from Bloomberg Law, Huber has threatened to fire 55 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 1: the engineer at the center of the driverless car technology 56 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:16,119 Speaker 1: legal battle with Weymo. The ride hailing company has told 57 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 1: Anthony Lewandowski to either deny taking files from Weimo, his 58 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: former employer, or turn them over. Lewandowski has told the 59 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:26,519 Speaker 1: court he's being forced to choose between his job or 60 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 1: his constitutional rights against self incrimination. A federal judge says 61 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 1: he's inclined to approve Wells Fargoes one forty two million 62 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: dollars settlement with customers over fraudulent accounts. 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