Speaker 1: Get up, Get the boys. It's back and reoaded. All
Speaker 1: in your mind. Yeah, not deep throating. This is for
Speaker 1: the streets, the reel, the railroaded, the distant franchise, the
Speaker 1: truth escapegoating, and they ain't knowing we speak the truth,
Speaker 1: so they quoted because we wrote it. The North South
Speaker 1: East coat is the gv my. We're keeping your head bobbing.
Speaker 1: It ain't no stopping and wants to be drips head
Speaker 1: by then. The system is so corrupt they throw the
Speaker 1: rock out their heads and then blame it on us.
Speaker 1: Don't get it twisted on code and me dancing for
Speaker 1: no Buttoment biscuits. It's Willie d y'all scar facing the building. Collectively,
Speaker 1: we are the get old Boys. Reloaded, reloaded with another
Speaker 1: episode of information and instructions to help you navigate through
Speaker 1: this wild, crazy, beautiful world. I guess today, Mark Norman,
Speaker 1: man this right here. You know you talk a lot
Speaker 1: of ship. Yeah, hey, we're all gonna die one day.
Speaker 1: I as well say so. I talk saying, I talk
Speaker 1: cash shit, I talk cash ship. I don't take cash
Speaker 1: Venmo only, but whatever you got, I'm just happy to
Speaker 1: be here. I can't believe the email I'm the first
Speaker 1: honkey in the studio, by the way, which is an honor.
Speaker 1: I'm the Jackie Robinson of you know this group Ghetto Boys. Man.
Speaker 1: You know you do not hesitate to talk about race.
Speaker 1: You talk about race. Black comics talk about race a
Speaker 1: lot of times. White comics they you hesitate to talk
Speaker 1: about race. Yeah, even when the joke is funny. White,
Speaker 1: he's nervous a lot of guilt. I grew up in
Speaker 1: a black neighborhood. I went to public school. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I talked about gay black jewe women. That's all fun why.
Speaker 1: I think the more we tiptoe around it, the weirder
Speaker 1: it gets. I think you just gotta just treat everybody
Speaker 1: equally and be real. I love it. I love it, bro,
Speaker 1: that's that New Orleans spirit New Orleans, but moved to
Speaker 1: New York. Though. How did you get How did you
Speaker 1: get New York out of New Orleans? You said he
Speaker 1: went up there to get um comedy, Yeah, because it
Speaker 1: was there's no comedy scene, no real comedy scene in
Speaker 1: New Orleans. Is funny. They got some funny we're talking about.
Speaker 1: If you want to break out your clubs industry, you
Speaker 1: gotta move if you want to break out. So you
Speaker 1: was in New York talking about Jewish people. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of them there. You gotta gotta keep
Speaker 1: them in line. You know, they control the weather already.
Speaker 1: Come on, might as well have a good time with them.
Speaker 1: They're doing great, and I'm uncircumcised, so terrible. We just
Speaker 1: started Louise. Oh man, this guy, say, man, that's a
Speaker 1: I believe that is a huge push for people to
Speaker 1: make New I mean New Orleans the cuisine capital. Yes
Speaker 1: here here I can't cook, but my mom is a big,
Speaker 1: fat cook and she makes a hell of a gumbo, jumbala,
Speaker 1: you name it, and you can't get it in New York.
Speaker 1: You get Ethiopian food, which I don't even know they
Speaker 1: had food in Ethiopia. But you can get eat the
Speaker 1: open you can get whatever you want. You can't get creole.
Speaker 1: It's crazy. The sorry little little semen there in the throat.
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, I mean, uh, it's weird. It's weird.
Speaker 1: I missed the food so much. I gotta go back
Speaker 1: home to New Orleans just to get a nice, nice,
Speaker 1: good Cajun meal. You mentioned semen in the throat. You
Speaker 1: tell a lot of gay jokes man, do you have
Speaker 1: a gig? Gay guys approach you? And I heard you
Speaker 1: say that you're not gay, but you tell a lot
Speaker 1: of gay jokes. I mean, do gay people Gay guys
Speaker 1: come up to you and then hey, what's up baby?
Speaker 1: My d m s are bananas. Just I'll do this
Speaker 1: to you if you ever cross over to our side,
Speaker 1: I'll drain your balls and whatever you want. And here's
Speaker 1: here's my dick. And I'm like, I feel like like
Speaker 1: a hot lady. M oh yeah, oh my god, I
Speaker 1: know it's pretty hot. That is not hot joking. I'm joking.
Speaker 1: It's horrifying. You get what women go through. You're like, damn,
Speaker 1: these men are aggressive. What the fuck? Yeah, it's pretty
Speaker 1: wild man. When you when when did you first feel
Speaker 1: comfortable in your skin? Telling me, oh, I'm still uncomfortable.
Speaker 1: I have anxiety. I was a bedweather Uh you know,
Speaker 1: I'm always uncomfortable. That's where the jokes come from. Uncomfortable
Speaker 1: inn as fuels comedy. I think growing up my neighborhood,
Speaker 1: you had to you had to be funny or it
Speaker 1: was it was over, you know. So it all comes
Speaker 1: to my parents are weird, and you know, mental ship
Speaker 1: so yeah, bro, you're finding in a motherfucker. Broh, come on,
Speaker 1: and then you don't you you, you don't. You don't
Speaker 1: give a fund. We're all gonna die one day, you know,
Speaker 1: We're on this little speck of dirt for maybe ninety years.
Speaker 1: You might as well live it up. You ever had
Speaker 1: somebody trying to fight you? Oh my god, I've been
Speaker 1: beat up many times. I got beat up on the
Speaker 1: way here at the fucking taco joint. But no, no, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm talking about for your jokes man. Yeah, of course,
Speaker 1: of course Russian Like, what's I mean? What this what
Speaker 1: you see is just not a man? An't like that? Man?
Speaker 1: Oh for sure, for sure. I've taken a few beatings.
Speaker 1: Not there. It was a Mexican guy. It was a
Speaker 1: little seem like you talk your way out of getting
Speaker 1: beat up. Yeah, yeah, you had to do it. I
Speaker 1: mean in publicly remember public school, it was vicious. Now
Speaker 1: you know what kind of school public school did you
Speaker 1: go to in New Orleans? Was that a lot of blacks? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: A lot of my neighborhood was a predominant black. I
Speaker 1: grew up in Tremay, which is right outside of the
Speaker 1: French Quarter. You literally have alligator skin, yes, yeah, exactly
Speaker 1: around a bunch of black people. Yeah, and this is
Speaker 1: this is nineties, you know, this is like hey, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna take your bike, and hey we we were the
Speaker 1: white family in the neighborhoods. Everybody thought we were loaded,
Speaker 1: but we we were broke too. We were just white.
Speaker 1: So people would break in and go, what then is
Speaker 1: this ship? This? There's nothing here? You got nothing here man? Yes,
Speaker 1: I walked in on a few robberies. There was some
Speaker 1: gun points stuff, so would break into your house and
Speaker 1: take your stuff or try to take your steff You
Speaker 1: ever go get it beat No? No, I mean I
Speaker 1: was young. I was like seven, eight, nine, ten years old.
Speaker 1: And eventually two guys broke in with guns and tied
Speaker 1: everybody up, and so we moved after that, but it
Speaker 1: got pretty it got pretty hairy. But we didn't have
Speaker 1: any good ships. So they'd take an old TV or
Speaker 1: a shitty VCR and then they'd like dig through all
Speaker 1: your ship looking for drugs. You know, but you know,
Speaker 1: it was it was fun. It was fun. It wasn't fun,
Speaker 1: but uh, I was a bedweather. I think it was
Speaker 1: because I was dealing with trauma. Damn. So you grew
Speaker 1: up and you went to us predominantly white school, you
Speaker 1: grew up predominantly black school, predominantly black school. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: was a black girl. I've had a few, and they're
Speaker 1: very intimidating. Yeah, I don't think girlfriend. But we just
Speaker 1: you know, a little roll in the hay. And you know,
Speaker 1: of course you're terrified about the I've seen porn. You know,
Speaker 1: I want to measure up. So so so what's it
Speaker 1: like now? Like? What's dating like for you? Now? Now?
Speaker 1: I got a nice lady. We're engaged. We live in
Speaker 1: New York together, trying to grow up. You know, I'm
Speaker 1: in my late thirties here. So she's a crazy Irish whore.
Speaker 1: I mean, just a real ball busting brassy lady, huge
Speaker 1: from New York, Boston. That's even worth Oh yeah, you
Speaker 1: know those chicks are tough, real tough. Great gal likes comedy, funny,
Speaker 1: you know, good times. She gets it. She's cool. How
Speaker 1: does she feel when you call these type of names? Oh,
Speaker 1: she knows first of all. In the bedroom, nothing gets
Speaker 1: her going more than me calling her come on, come on.
Speaker 1: She loves it. She loves the insults that the choking
Speaker 1: you name it in love, you know, Bill, that's true.
Speaker 1: That's true. You gotta have a safe word. You have
Speaker 1: a quick sad Yeah, yeah, exactly. Ours is Obama. So
Speaker 1: why did you pick Obama? Well, you know, it's fun.
Speaker 1: Anytime you see Obama, something good is happening. You know,
Speaker 1: I feel like Obama is a nice guy. He started
Speaker 1: a podcast, did yeah, no ship, that's where we're at
Speaker 1: in life. You gotta get him on here. You know,
Speaker 1: we can hear that ring, that that that bag. There's
Speaker 1: no way you can hear it. This Willie Willie. This
Speaker 1: guy is incorrigible. Man. Oh yeah, and I'm hungry. He
Speaker 1: lives life. He does what he wants. You didn't bring pizza.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, go ahead, you show you want this fluorescent
Speaker 1: electric yellow this thing that hurt my eyes. Man, you're
Speaker 1: like a crossing guard over here. Mark. Yes. What is
Speaker 1: the the difference between the biggest, the glaring difference between
Speaker 1: living in New York and New Orleans? Well, I think
Speaker 1: New York it's insanely expensive, it is huge. It's not
Speaker 1: as scary as New Orleans. Because in New York, we
Speaker 1: talked about this, there's people everywhere, so you can I
Speaker 1: always feel safe even if something goes down, somebody'll see it,
Speaker 1: maybe they'll record it, maybe they'll tell a cop. But
Speaker 1: in New Orleans it was lawless. You can drink outside.
Speaker 1: I'd get into a cab when I was a kid.
Speaker 1: The cab drive had a beer between his legs, Like,
Speaker 1: where are you going? Everything's lucy goosey in New Orleans,
Speaker 1: and I grew up with that. Then you get to
Speaker 1: New York and it's a little more rigid. So yeah,
Speaker 1: and you got no space, you're living in the shoe box,
Speaker 1: you're paying out the ass on rent. But it's still
Speaker 1: the best city in the world. I mean every culture
Speaker 1: is there. Uh just the the city's electric. Everybody moves there.
Speaker 1: We got comedy, we got music, we got Broadway Puerto Ricans.
Speaker 1: It's great, but it's kind of dangerous in New York
Speaker 1: these days now, Like I've been covering stories about New
Speaker 1: York and like we're talking like people trying to kidnap
Speaker 1: people and raping people in broad daylight in the middle
Speaker 1: on the sidewalk. Totally, totally this is happening. We got
Speaker 1: a subway slashers back now as a guy just cutting
Speaker 1: people on the subway. Everyone's on edge. COVID fucked everything
Speaker 1: up because all the rich people left because they were scared,
Speaker 1: and all the they went to Connecticut and all that ship.
Speaker 1: But then the crazy people said, hey, there's nobody on
Speaker 1: the street for a year now, we were on the streets,
Speaker 1: and so now we're coming back and they're here. So
Speaker 1: it's a clash of the rich honky and then the
Speaker 1: fucking uh scary homeless and they're like, hey, this is
Speaker 1: our city now, and we're like, well, we gotta go
Speaker 1: to work, psycho. So then just snip snip the old
Speaker 1: foreskin man. Do you worry about cancel culture catching up
Speaker 1: to you all the time, but you know you can't,
Speaker 1: you can't live like they just gotta be you. I
Speaker 1: guess I can't hide it. And I'm a good human.
Speaker 1: I have good intentions. So I hope that rings through,
Speaker 1: you know. I hope people can see that I'm just
Speaker 1: working around. It's all just worse, so we can see
Speaker 1: I'm just sucking around. It's all just words. Thank you.
Speaker 1: When they come out, when they come after you, well,
Speaker 1: at some point, and this is not me, we should bead.
Speaker 1: Hopefully they never we hopefully, but if they did, if
Speaker 1: they do, how do you stand up. I think you
Speaker 1: just ignore or you go, oh me, what are you
Speaker 1: gonna do? Like, I think if you start apologizing and
Speaker 1: giving in, then they're like, we got one, Yeah, let's
Speaker 1: keep keep the claws in him. So I think you
Speaker 1: just look at Charles Barkley and says crazy ship. He's like, hey,
Speaker 1: bring it on, you got a problem with me, let's go.
Speaker 1: So I think that's yeah. But but but but he's
Speaker 1: not like a great example because he he says what
Speaker 1: he says within the confines of what the executives at
Speaker 1: the tells him. That allows him to do you know,
Speaker 1: you know, because he's not tourious for throwing black people
Speaker 1: under the bus, but he never calls out you know,
Speaker 1: police officers and and other stuff like that. So you
Speaker 1: know that that guy at you know, oh, he's not
Speaker 1: You guys aren't a fan. I'm not interested. But I
Speaker 1: like champions, Donald Trump, you like winners. We don't like
Speaker 1: people has been captured. Well, well, well it's not just
Speaker 1: about that, you know. I like I like people with
Speaker 1: winning character. You know, it's more about character. You know,
Speaker 1: if you really want to understand a person, like if
Speaker 1: you really want to understand someone, well with all of
Speaker 1: this stuff that we that we go through in the
Speaker 1: in this country, right, you have to look at like
Speaker 1: when you start talking about people that that mean their
Speaker 1: own people no good. All you gotta do is look
Speaker 1: at it. If your criticism of your community out where
Speaker 1: your contribution there, you go, that's him what No, I
Speaker 1: just no, I see what you're saying, though, I get you.
Speaker 1: I want to read something. A couple of tweets that
Speaker 1: I saw on your Twitter, right, I try to keep
Speaker 1: it joking. I try to keep it funny. On Twitter,
Speaker 1: you said, I'm glad it's the Delta variant because if
Speaker 1: it was the Spirit variant, it'd be an additional fee
Speaker 1: for the vaccine. You wasn't You wasn't concerned about saying that.
Speaker 1: You just said it. I mean, no ill will towards anyone.
Speaker 1: Just a joke, that joke about airlines, you know, Delta
Speaker 1: variant and we've all flown Spirit. They rape you on
Speaker 1: the baggage and on the water and the pretzels. So
Speaker 1: the joke is, hey, if it was a Spirit variant,
Speaker 1: you have to pay for something. That's what makes it
Speaker 1: so funny, because Spirit text they have they nickeling damn
Speaker 1: at you bro, don't do it. It's ever. At some point,
Speaker 1: Spirit is going to start charging for oxygen. Hey, if
Speaker 1: you want to breathee exactly know, they reel you in
Speaker 1: because you're looking online like damn this tickets twenty eight
Speaker 1: dollars to go to fucking Denver. Hey, that's pretty good.
Speaker 1: And then before you know it, Oh, you want a seat,
Speaker 1: you want a bag, you want to water, Yeah, you
Speaker 1: want an overhead. You're you're gonna just pay fifty dollars
Speaker 1: for that. Now you're up to four fifty. It's like
Speaker 1: a girl goes, hey, I'll blow you. And then you're like, ship,
Speaker 1: I got claim idia. You don't know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: He said chlamydia six times this year. It's curable. Ship.
Speaker 1: There's another one. Al, I can't wait for the first
Speaker 1: black billionaire to go to space because the rocket is
Speaker 1: gonna be huge. Although he might get pulled over, come on,
Speaker 1: that's comedy gold funny. I'm saying a big dick joke.
Speaker 1: So I got a big joke in there, and you
Speaker 1: know the police brutality in there. It's now now now
Speaker 1: with you've put the state to put this sting in
Speaker 1: the historical context. Right when you look at the relationship,
Speaker 1: the tumultuous relationship motorous between black people and police, specifically
Speaker 1: white police officers. Yes, how do you, as a white
Speaker 1: man tell that joke? And well, even first of all,
Speaker 1: think of that joke and say, fuck it, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go forward. I didn't even think that was that offensive
Speaker 1: because I'm I'm saying the police are fucked up. So
Speaker 1: I'm on your side there in the joke. No, no,
Speaker 1: I hear it. But like the police brutality is always
Speaker 1: sensitive topics. It's a very sensitive topic for black people
Speaker 1: because I mean, hell, I mean we're on the shot
Speaker 1: the end of the stick with it. So I get it.
Speaker 1: I get I'm a comedy connoisseur. I love comedy. So
Speaker 1: it's a hell of a joke. You got. I'm saying, like,
Speaker 1: I think that it's risky, right, Some people were here,
Speaker 1: They're like, hey, wait a minute, I goddamn it, you
Speaker 1: went too far. You know, like this ship is serious.
Speaker 1: I think I think it is. I think that when
Speaker 1: you um, it's timing, I don't know will because you
Speaker 1: can't really crack jokes about the LGBTQ community. I got
Speaker 1: those two. Yeah, Well, I mean, look, you want to be.
Speaker 1: We want to be equal or not. If if you're equal,
Speaker 1: then I'm gonna make fun of you. It's actually the
Speaker 1: lesser than that, you don't you know when you have
Speaker 1: the special needs kid in your gym class, everybody, we
Speaker 1: all funk with each other. You go, I don't funk
Speaker 1: with that kid, and that's the ultimate insult. So I
Speaker 1: think making fun of every group is the true even
Speaker 1: level playing field. Have you guys say retarded on stage,
Speaker 1: but I got a whole ten minutes on retarded. Dude,
Speaker 1: this is good, I know, but the groundless. And again,
Speaker 1: I don't hate retarded people. Who what kind of psycho
Speaker 1: would actually hate retarded people? I'm just joking. I mean, no,
Speaker 1: no one's ever gone. Hey, I don't want to retards
Speaker 1: of my neighborhood. You know, I love a retarded kid
Speaker 1: in my neighborhood. I'd be great. They're so happy and
Speaker 1: they can you know, they're very strong, they can lift
Speaker 1: a car. Do you have any special needs people in
Speaker 1: your family? I think there's some autism kind of going
Speaker 1: through the Norman family. I'm impotent, can't get it up.
Speaker 1: But other than that, no, I'm kidding. I'm hard right now.
Speaker 1: But now there's a little cancer and then the grandma
Speaker 1: and all that. But everything everybody's good, so nothing too bad.
Speaker 1: We're very lucky. We're blessed. Oh fuck, I am gonna
Speaker 1: come to the improv please. We'd love to have you, alright,
Speaker 1: I'll put you on the list. Alright, alright, we'll put
Speaker 1: you in the you know, the black section. But you
Speaker 1: know it's weigh in the back up by. I'm joking.
Speaker 1: You gotta make light of horrible things. This guy right here,
Speaker 1: man is the ship. I'm telling you, man, this dude
Speaker 1: is the ship for real. When I first saw you out, like, man,
Speaker 1: we gotta get this guy shown. When I got that email,
Speaker 1: it was touching. I appreciate it, Yeah, absolutely, man, Like
Speaker 1: who inspired Mark Norman to get into comedy? How did
Speaker 1: that happen? I just always loved it. That huge George
Speaker 1: carl and huge Richard Pryor all that right, he's probably
Speaker 1: the funniest guy, one of the funniest comics of all times.
Speaker 1: Willie and I had uh a week or so ago.
Speaker 1: Yeah it was a week ago. Yeah, I mean the
Speaker 1: guy catches on fire from freebasing and makes a joke
Speaker 1: about that, and then his art it's amazing, and he's
Speaker 1: so honest, and he now that so many comics doing him.
Speaker 1: He changed the whole game, you know. So, but that
Speaker 1: was in the seventies. I mean Bill Cosby was like Willias,
Speaker 1: Richard Pryor the best comic ever probably and Willie was like, nah,
Speaker 1: I mean all the pens and we never really came
Speaker 1: to the to the finish of it. But I'm want
Speaker 1: to vote Richard Pryor. Okay, we could break it down
Speaker 1: all day. I think that char he likes Bill Cosby.
Speaker 1: Bro Bill Cosby, you wouldn't have prior without Cosby. See,
Speaker 1: that's the thing I think that I think that Richard
Speaker 1: is definitely on the Mond rushmore. Yes, I look at
Speaker 1: like not just how famous a person was, and not
Speaker 1: just how or not how talented they were, but their impact.
Speaker 1: How how influential were you Richard? How many how many
Speaker 1: people that really like went out and and and give
Speaker 1: me a big word, how many how many people? How
Speaker 1: many people went out and try to uh copy what
Speaker 1: you did? Everybody try to emulate what you did? How
Speaker 1: many people did that? And and so yeah, I'm not
Speaker 1: saying anything. I'm saying Richard is definitely not like Richard Man.
Speaker 1: I used to like take Richard Pride jokes to school
Speaker 1: and act like they were mine. You know, I tell
Speaker 1: those jokes like they were mine. So yeah, man, So
Speaker 1: Richard is definitely up there. I mean, he's always Mark.
Speaker 1: He's definitely at the top. You on that, You're you're
Speaker 1: right there, bro. You change the face. I'm serious, changing
Speaker 1: the face of comedy, bro for real, like you're changing
Speaker 1: it like you you don't give a funk. And that's
Speaker 1: that's a beautiful thing. That's your time right now. And
Speaker 1: you know you said a mouthful when you said you
Speaker 1: can't be afraid of them, because these watch dogs are
Speaker 1: like dogs, you know, if they feel if they sense fear,
Speaker 1: that's when they come chasing and running after your ship.
Speaker 1: And then and even if you apologize, you can't just apologize.
Speaker 1: You gotta apologize like they want you to. You gotta
Speaker 1: have that the motherfucker's mentality. Fuck you, you gotta have
Speaker 1: that type of mentality. Are they gonna keep riding on you?
Speaker 1: And I don't. And I do sense that when they
Speaker 1: sense that they think they got somebody that they can
Speaker 1: ride on, that they can actually uh influence their behavior
Speaker 1: or whatever, they just go in and it trips me
Speaker 1: out when somebody apologizes and they say no, no, no,
Speaker 1: you got to apologize him too, then you gotta. We didn't.
Speaker 1: We didn't feel that apologize you can be more sincere. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's all bananas and where we consider them the good
Speaker 1: guy us like your You claim to be compassionate and
Speaker 1: trying to help people. You're fucking bullies your I want
Speaker 1: another apology. That was that apology? You didn't mean that apology.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I didn't mean the joke either. Motherfucker about that.
Speaker 1: But they just want more more. It's control. How can
Speaker 1: I do more? Do more? Keep kissing the ring, keep
Speaker 1: bowing down both of my apologies and take them off
Speaker 1: the table. You should retract all your apologizes, both apologies.
Speaker 1: Don't do it. I would just say I would say
Speaker 1: I would not attract an apology if I feel that's
Speaker 1: what I want to say. If I'm sincere about my apology,
Speaker 1: I'll apologizing that. What why would you say it in
Speaker 1: the first place? If you want to apologize because we're
Speaker 1: human beings and we make mistakes, that's whatever. Heard you
Speaker 1: say you're sorry for nothing to nobody ever in life? Well,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry you've never heard I'm done, man, all we finished.
Speaker 1: But here's the thing is we we talked about canceling
Speaker 1: and all that, and it's become like a religion. You know,
Speaker 1: people live for this ship. But with religion, this forgiveness.
Speaker 1: There doesn't seem to be any forgiveness in the canceling.
Speaker 1: But have you noticed that the same people who are
Speaker 1: part of the cancel culture are the same people who
Speaker 1: are part of that don't judge? Exactly? Very interesting. You
Speaker 1: go far enuf east, you're going west. If you go
Speaker 1: you're going with yeah, yeah, don't judge. Don't judge. Live
Speaker 1: your life, do your ship, handle your take care of
Speaker 1: your kids, pay your bills. Why then, are you worried
Speaker 1: about me making a fat joke? This is the biggest
Speaker 1: problem in the world. How privileged are you that this
Speaker 1: is your biggest fight, fat joke. You don't give us,
Speaker 1: you don't even care. You just want the cloud, you
Speaker 1: want the clicks, you want to get the wind. Well,
Speaker 1: I really don't have a problem with people judging. I
Speaker 1: think I think I think we all we all judge
Speaker 1: every day, Like when we walk out of the house,
Speaker 1: you know, we put on clothes because we don't want
Speaker 1: somebody staring. You know, we you know, we we we
Speaker 1: we call my hand, I mean, Alicia, don't do uh,
Speaker 1: you know, because you know, we want to look presentable. Right.
Speaker 1: So people judge every day, every single day. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: And I think it keeps us. It keeps us uh
Speaker 1: in check, right, It keeps us in check. So I
Speaker 1: think it's a good thing to judge. But I think
Speaker 1: it's when people become judgm mental mental. What I'm saying,
Speaker 1: that's when it becomes judg mental defined the word. Well,
Speaker 1: when that's the mental part is just you know, being
Speaker 1: obsessed with it and just having and having uh, this
Speaker 1: this attitude of superiority, you know, like it has to
Speaker 1: be my way of no way, you know, like like
Speaker 1: like what makes your way the right way? And that
Speaker 1: way be defended. Your way be defended, but but not
Speaker 1: way be defended. You know. That's that's a problem. That's
Speaker 1: why I have a problem with it. And who says
Speaker 1: that I made the black joke about you guys being
Speaker 1: in the black section clearly a joke. But somebody could
Speaker 1: take that clip and go and he's a racist. Look
Speaker 1: at this guy, like, you don't even know me. I
Speaker 1: made a joke. What are you talking about? But they
Speaker 1: don't care. They don't go, oh, maybe it was a joke.
Speaker 1: They go, no, we're gonna we're gonna burn this guy
Speaker 1: at the steak, Like, what are we doing? This is
Speaker 1: it was a joke, Like, you're a waste of everybody's
Speaker 1: time here. It's real racist. I wouldn't offended. Willie wasn't offended.
Speaker 1: And I'm offended by a lot of ship really yeah
Speaker 1: I am. But but but I wasn't offended by that
Speaker 1: because I get it. I get comedy. Yeah, I understand
Speaker 1: comedy right and the opening And if I was a comic,
Speaker 1: I take that chance. You know, if if if I
Speaker 1: had that joke, I would have used it. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. If I was a comic and I
Speaker 1: came up with that ship right, like, yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: probably they would have burned at the stake to Willie,
Speaker 1: if you're black, Willie, Willie can't say that about white people.
Speaker 1: I would laugh. I think you wouldn't be funny. If
Speaker 1: Willie said it, I think I would. I would. I
Speaker 1: would say any fucking joke as a comic. The best
Speaker 1: comics are the ones who are uncensored. Well, you're not funny. Well,
Speaker 1: I guess I can be funny sometimes. Well that's not
Speaker 1: what my woman said. That ain't got nothing to do
Speaker 1: with bread. Well, well that's what I'm saying. So why
Speaker 1: are you coming on my ship because it's just not
Speaker 1: funny here, But go ahead, I could be more funnier
Speaker 1: than you. Bet you can't. H Come on, let's wait
Speaker 1: just after the show now, now, let's go right now,
Speaker 1: let's go with the jokes right now, all right, okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: he dirty white horse selling the mud. Okay, next joke, okay,
Speaker 1: so so so, so that's this this farmer I'm gonna
Speaker 1: fuck you. Okay, So that's this farmer, right, And these
Speaker 1: two farmers farmer A farmer B. Farmer A tells farm
Speaker 1: A B, Hey, I really like your your farm, and I,
Speaker 1: you know, i'd like to own it someday, and you know,
Speaker 1: I like to home something like this someday. And then
Speaker 1: the other farmer says, well, I tell you what, if
Speaker 1: you can tell it, tell me what it is you're
Speaker 1: sticking up my ass. Uh, you know you can tell
Speaker 1: me what it is. If you can tell me what
Speaker 1: it is I'm sticking up your ass, I'll let you
Speaker 1: have it. So He's like, oh man, I don't know
Speaker 1: about that. So he says, um, you know what. Okay,
Speaker 1: So he goes he goes and gets a carrot and
Speaker 1: sticks to carried up his ass and the guy goes, uh,
Speaker 1: I think that's a carriage, and he said, funk, you're right.
Speaker 1: So then he goes and get a cucumber and he
Speaker 1: sticks the cucumber up his ass and the dudes like,
Speaker 1: fuck fucking cucumber. And then he goes into uh to
Speaker 1: the bathroom and get one of those things that used
Speaker 1: for it is a bathroom. He goes into the bathroom.
Speaker 1: I said, he goes into the bathroom and gets one
Speaker 1: of those things that used UH to stop the toilet
Speaker 1: what's called Brad what's it called Bright's But honestly, Marks
Speaker 1: played that game before you got me there nice pack
Speaker 1: my assholes thing and no, but on the on the
Speaker 1: real though, you know, Brad can't funk with me in comedy.
Speaker 1: But I like Brad up anytime any day anyway. You know,
Speaker 1: in fact, you know what improv. You I led to
Speaker 1: a comedy night at the Improv. You know we can
Speaker 1: go up there any day and have a battle royale.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying William funnier than you. Okay,
Speaker 1: well we'll see about it. She was sucking she and Willie.
Speaker 1: You see that? What does that mean? It's a great
Speaker 1: hair man. I'm funny. M hmm, you're funny because you
Speaker 1: have great fucking right. That's wisdom. You should see his
Speaker 1: pubes you. Wisdom is different from wisdom, is different from humor. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's different. Like you know, it doesn't make you make
Speaker 1: you funny. What makes a comedian funny? Delivery delivery timing
Speaker 1: point of view. You gotta have a good angle that
Speaker 1: nobody thought about. You can take some bullshit like that
Speaker 1: joke that Willie just told, but go ahead. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you can take some like pizza and find a new
Speaker 1: angle in it that no one thought about. But it
Speaker 1: was right there. And that's comedy. It's all about. It's
Speaker 1: almost like seeing ship through the eyes of a kid
Speaker 1: and saying it as an adult. That makes sense. Yeah, yeah, funny.
Speaker 1: It's a fascinating thing. Funny, it's a fascinating thing. I
Speaker 1: go all over the country talking to different crowds and
Speaker 1: they all laugh for the same ship. You know, Like,
Speaker 1: here's a joke for you. I met a girl a
Speaker 1: Jewish girl on that Jewish app what's that Jewish appist
Speaker 1: Jewish one? I don't know. I don't PayPal, I don't
Speaker 1: don't put us in this man, it's surprised you didn't
Speaker 1: see it coming. And then you hit him with the
Speaker 1: horrible Jewish stereotype and we laugh. That's how humans are.
Speaker 1: It's great, especially and then when people get mad at
Speaker 1: you for doing dark Ship, you're like, no, no, that's
Speaker 1: what we should be talking about, because we're making light
Speaker 1: of horrible ship. That's a good thing. Are you hilarious
Speaker 1: somewhere that you are an atheist? Oh? Yeah, yeah, big
Speaker 1: as that. Well. I'd love to believe. I wish I believed.
Speaker 1: I just you know, it's like being gay. If you're gay,
Speaker 1: you're gay. If you're not, you're not. I want to believe.
Speaker 1: All my friends are religious, like I went to Catholic
Speaker 1: school when high school, and I don't know. I just
Speaker 1: don't buy it. I'd love to buy it. It'd be
Speaker 1: a happier life. You guys seem happy, but I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't. It's too convenient. Oh you go
Speaker 1: to heaven at the end, It's it's perfect. It's if
Speaker 1: it's perfect. Why is my aunt here? You know? Like
Speaker 1: we could do this all day with dissecting everything. And
Speaker 1: then how if you're Catholic, if you grow up with
Speaker 1: this part, but over here you're Muslim and over here
Speaker 1: you're Jewish, Like, how come those are those real? And
Speaker 1: mine is fake? Or is mine real and those are fake?
Speaker 1: So I don't know, it's all it all feels. I
Speaker 1: think it's a nice What what about religion? It makes
Speaker 1: you feel like it's fake. I don't think there's a
Speaker 1: higher being upstairs. I think when we die, we're just
Speaker 1: in the dirt and that's okay, that's a beautiful thing.
Speaker 1: Heaven is a dangerous concept because it's an after party.
Speaker 1: So you think, well, hey, I don't have to worry
Speaker 1: about this time. I got heaven coming up. But this
Speaker 1: time is heaven. This is when you be living because
Speaker 1: there's nothing after it, right, So you subscribe to the
Speaker 1: theory that you know you make your heaven in your
Speaker 1: hell right here? Exactly, how do you explain liquid that
Speaker 1: can turn into a lump that can turn into a
Speaker 1: human being. Well, I'm a big evolution douche. So you
Speaker 1: think we came from ape? I think we came from
Speaker 1: fish to man. Why the motherfucker's can't drive cars? Then, well,
Speaker 1: we got more, we got more advanced, evolved. Why didn't
Speaker 1: they evolved in it? We evolved? I'm just asking questions.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm a strong believer that there's something bigger
Speaker 1: than me. Probably I can't justify sitting on a big
Speaker 1: gass ball spinning in the middle of nowhere with barter's
Speaker 1: stuck to that bitch and we're surviving and there's nothing
Speaker 1: else and and and we're responsible for that. I'm not
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna buy that. I'm down with you, though
Speaker 1: science can for me. I want to see signs. Do it,
Speaker 1: make signs? Do it? Get Neil de grass Tyson in here.
Speaker 1: He could do it better than me. But I'm in
Speaker 1: science to make that ball spending the mill and no
Speaker 1: fucking wear with water stuck to it and life growing.
Speaker 1: I want to see science do that. Let me ask
Speaker 1: you that we got cancer. Somebody dies of cancer, my my,
Speaker 1: my dad dies of cancer. Let's say why did God
Speaker 1: do that? The cancer, the medical um community, they gave it.
Speaker 1: I feel like you no listen and this is real ship.
Speaker 1: I feel like the U. S. D A. Did that.
Speaker 1: I feel like the United States government injected cancer in
Speaker 1: the food that we eat. Why why would then, why
Speaker 1: do some people getting some people don't because some people
Speaker 1: have stronger immune systems, But why would God give some
Speaker 1: people weaker immune systems? Well, God didn't do that. See
Speaker 1: it's all very convenient when it's bad. He didn't do
Speaker 1: it when it's great. He did it. Well, let me
Speaker 1: let me say this. If God gave everybody a strong
Speaker 1: or weak immune system, then you know we're not giving
Speaker 1: God the credit that he deserves. Because God, my concept,
Speaker 1: God is life, and it made life. I made life.
Speaker 1: You know, he makes He makes the grass grow, He
Speaker 1: makes the fish in the sea grow. You know, you
Speaker 1: make a tree grow from from a seed. You know
Speaker 1: that's God. If you didn't take care of your body
Speaker 1: growing up, that's not God's fault nature. And and I'm
Speaker 1: never gonna try to push my my my religious beliefs
Speaker 1: on you all, Willie. But I do know it's something
Speaker 1: bigger than me. I watched, I watched, Yeah, I watched
Speaker 1: the little girl breached, breached, cut out like a C section,
Speaker 1: cut out and alive and grew to be some ship
Speaker 1: that I can't even explain what the funk it is.
Speaker 1: But I saw it. I got up watch my kids
Speaker 1: grow up, man, so I know it's something way fucking
Speaker 1: bigger than me. Get up to the doctor on that one.
Speaker 1: Now that wasn't the doctor. I was in there, so
Speaker 1: I was in there and I ground. I was like,
Speaker 1: oh ship, yeah, yeah. I think ten tho years ago
Speaker 1: she might not or not five thousand, or she might
Speaker 1: not have lived because we didn't have the technology years ago,
Speaker 1: fifty years ago. So I don't know. I just think, hey,
Speaker 1: give us some credit. Plus, where the hell is this guy?
Speaker 1: He could say he's gonna show up, he had to
Speaker 1: show up. I'm not gonna laugh it then, Mom, I'm
Speaker 1: just saying he's rather dead be dead. Jesus is on
Speaker 1: the cross, like, hey, Dad, you're all powering. You can't
Speaker 1: throw me a bone here. These guys are slaughtering me.
Speaker 1: I just don't I don't get it. I don't know
Speaker 1: it's all. It's all when the when the guy makes
Speaker 1: a touchdown, thank you God, I couldn't be here. When
Speaker 1: he misses, he doesn't go, what the funk, asshole? What
Speaker 1: about the guy who also believes in God that he
Speaker 1: made the touchdown? On exactly great point. It's very convenient,
Speaker 1: and I don't want to shoot on anybody's religion. And look,
Speaker 1: religious people are happier, they live longer. There are a
Speaker 1: lot of people, especially people in Congress, who all who
Speaker 1: all claim to be religious, and their devils and in
Speaker 1: Congress on police forces all around this country, straight devils,
Speaker 1: straight people, straight demonic people. So I don't, I don't
Speaker 1: subscribe to that. You know, it's very religious, isis, They're
Speaker 1: very religious. The clan is very they believe in they
Speaker 1: believe in Jesus Christ, and Jesus Christ was hockey fucking
Speaker 1: done with this guy. Hey, I can say it, that's
Speaker 1: my n word. But you know, look the client. I
Speaker 1: was just at one of the meetings, so I can speak.
Speaker 1: How do people? How do white people treat you? When
Speaker 1: you say that white people are the most annoying, the
Speaker 1: most heavy handed, preachy, well you need to. They're so condescending,
Speaker 1: especially when it comes to different races and marginalized groups
Speaker 1: like white people are the ones who get mad at
Speaker 1: my comedy black guy I do black the black guys laughing,
Speaker 1: and you can't say, it's like, shut the funk up,
Speaker 1: he's laughing. Who are you to tell me what he
Speaker 1: can handle. You're the you're the real racist, because you're going, hey,
Speaker 1: they're they're slow and weak. They can't handle that. Like
Speaker 1: that's where your brain went. I'm fucking bullshitting with this guy.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just hate white women have really
Speaker 1: gone off the rails with like, we need to stop
Speaker 1: these horrible jokes. I'm like, these jokes are making people happy.
Speaker 1: This guy's laughing. Relax, You're not a hero. Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: don't stop comedy. Man. You can stop a lot of stuff,
Speaker 1: but please do not stop my comedy. Man. I think
Speaker 1: it's important, man. And and if if that ain't your brand,
Speaker 1: you know, hey, man, don't It's easy to not go
Speaker 1: to the show. It's very easy to not listen to
Speaker 1: this guy on social media, on YouTube or whatever. It's
Speaker 1: so easy. And what is it inside you that has
Speaker 1: to take that down? We need to get rid of this.
Speaker 1: This is bad, Like move it on. I think it's
Speaker 1: a difference if it would be different if somebody had
Speaker 1: a particular type of I guess, uh crew type comedy
Speaker 1: or whatever, and they actually live their life outside of
Speaker 1: the stage like that, you know, they was out there
Speaker 1: like making these makes making certain racial jokes or whatever,
Speaker 1: and then they went out there and practice that type
Speaker 1: of stuff. That would be different in my opinion. But uh, man,
Speaker 1: you know, but that there are there are comics who
Speaker 1: say talk about all kinds of you know, you've got
Speaker 1: comics who you talk about, you know, being faithful to
Speaker 1: that woman or whatever, and you know, get doing all
Speaker 1: kind of stuff, and you got and you got those
Speaker 1: who say, man, I'll be sleeping with these holes and
Speaker 1: the man who you want to go with me tonight
Speaker 1: and all that stuff, and the and their wife is
Speaker 1: in the green room, you know, like you know, so
Speaker 1: it's for me, man, I think the idea with comedy
Speaker 1: is to make people laugh first and for almost even
Speaker 1: if you're gonna be political, that's fine, but make people laugh.
Speaker 1: Don't don't come on that damn stage and make me mad.
Speaker 1: I don't want to go to comedy show. And I
Speaker 1: don't get those guys like I want to walk half
Speaker 1: the room, I say with my truth and all like
Speaker 1: shut up. It's a it's still entertainment. It's still a
Speaker 1: comedy show. These people pay the ticket, give him, give
Speaker 1: him a laugh. But yeah, I think it's uh, it's
Speaker 1: not the end of the world. It's not that big
Speaker 1: of a deal. You don't have to show up. And
Speaker 1: then they go, here's here's one. This proves people are
Speaker 1: full of ship. Some comic wals say a fucked up joke,
Speaker 1: somebody will film it, they'll put it on Twitter, and
Speaker 1: people go, this is appalling, this is so offensive, let
Speaker 1: me retweet it. It's like, wait, if it's so horrible,
Speaker 1: why the hell are you retweeting it, why are you
Speaker 1: showing other people? Because you actually don't think it's that bad.
Speaker 1: You just want people to know that you think it's
Speaker 1: that bad, and you really thought it was inciting violence
Speaker 1: or whatever, you wouldn't repost it, your psycho. Now you're
Speaker 1: letting more people see it. Yeah, and that is that
Speaker 1: is something that I wrestle with. I wrestle with myself
Speaker 1: as a person who who post social in political political content,
Speaker 1: right because you know, you, I like exposing corruption. Those
Speaker 1: people who you talk about being condescending, or those people
Speaker 1: who try to take advantage of others and stuff like that,
Speaker 1: abuse their positions of authority. I love exposing them. And sometimes, uh,
Speaker 1: they do certain things and I'm like, I don't really
Speaker 1: want to post that because it's like it's no solution
Speaker 1: behind it. Like I don't want to just post it
Speaker 1: just to be post and say look what they did again,
Speaker 1: Look what they did again. It's like, if I'm posting it,
Speaker 1: it's like maybe to bring awareness to this particular video
Speaker 1: because it's not hadn't been out there, it's not out
Speaker 1: there yet, and so we gotta put this person on
Speaker 1: blast to to basically smoke them out so that that
Speaker 1: person could be held accountable. That's a good, good rebuttal. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So in your opinion, where is comedy? Do comedy have
Speaker 1: a good trajectory right now? As in terms of comics
Speaker 1: being able to, uh, at least saying it themselves. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say what I want to say. I mean, I
Speaker 1: know we've been talking about a lot and we got
Speaker 1: to cancel culture thing going on, But what are your
Speaker 1: peers saying about how they're gonna how they're gonna force
Speaker 1: it this staying forward. It's a good question. I think
Speaker 1: we're all it's kind of like music and fashion everything.
Speaker 1: You know, we had disco and then people like fuck disco,
Speaker 1: let's go to hair metal and hip hop, and then
Speaker 1: it goes to grunge music like sucking Nirvana and all that,
Speaker 1: so it keeps changing. It's almost like when you vote
Speaker 1: a Democrat president, the next one is a Republican. So
Speaker 1: it keeps flipping and flopping. So we went through this
Speaker 1: whole kind of wokey activism e thing like preachy kind
Speaker 1: of comedy, and now I think we're coming out with
Speaker 1: dark comedy. It's it's flopping again. You know everything, Uh
Speaker 1: there's a yin and a yang. So I think now
Speaker 1: we're kind of coming out with some dark comedy and
Speaker 1: people are going, yeah, yeah, I canceled me, but then
Speaker 1: you got to cancel all these twenty eight other motherfucker's too,
Speaker 1: So if you out number I think you're gonna be okay.
Speaker 1: So comedy right now, it's it's like in the eighties
Speaker 1: it was like Karate Kid, the goonies. The nineties you
Speaker 1: get pulp fiction and all this crazy ship so everything
Speaker 1: ebbs and flows, and right now I think we're in
Speaker 1: the dark comedy again, which is the Priors, the Carl
Speaker 1: and z Eddie Murphy's the Sam Kennison. So I think
Speaker 1: we went through the light and now we're in the
Speaker 1: dark and it's fun. It's funny. How do you feel
Speaker 1: about white comics s the N word. I think it's tough.
Speaker 1: I used to have an N word joke and it
Speaker 1: made I think the joke was good, but it made
Speaker 1: people so uncomfortable that I was like, again, my purpose
Speaker 1: here is to kill to get laughs, and if they're
Speaker 1: not laughing, I just dropped the joke. It's not for
Speaker 1: some moral high ground. It was just the no laughter.
Speaker 1: That's the real canceling. If you're not getting laughs, that
Speaker 1: joke is no good. So I just drop it. So
Speaker 1: I get the in word thing. But if it ain't laughing,
Speaker 1: if they're not laughing, I don't think it's worth it. Right,
Speaker 1: The steak isn't worth the sizzle? Yes, yes, steak isn't
Speaker 1: worth the sizzle. Pretty good. That's a good line. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And some people just want to say it just to
Speaker 1: say it, like look how tough I am. And you're like, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: but this is still a comedy show. We're supposed to
Speaker 1: be laughing. Who no one gives you are We're not laughing, right,
Speaker 1: And and that's the bottom line. Because I'm telling you
Speaker 1: I've been on comedy hard like foot at least three decades,
Speaker 1: and I know I know most of the top comedians
Speaker 1: in the game personally, and I've watched comics like from
Speaker 1: the time that they first thought like hitting the scene
Speaker 1: and I'll catching him like he got it. If I
Speaker 1: if I tell you got it, you got Yeah. If
Speaker 1: I tell you you know you ain't got it, you
Speaker 1: probably should start doing something different, right exactly? If you
Speaker 1: have no worst, you got it. I'll take it. Bro
Speaker 1: good question. So you guys did your homework? Well he didn't.
Speaker 1: But that's why I came in here. I just knew
Speaker 1: you was from New Orleans. Hell yeah, born and raised. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's all I needed to know you guys. Did you
Speaker 1: guys ever go there you're growing up because it's like
Speaker 1: a five hour drive. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I didn't go
Speaker 1: to New Orleans growing up, but I did go to
Speaker 1: Lake Charles. My my father's side of the family is
Speaker 1: from Lake Charles, so I used to visit that every
Speaker 1: summer and holidays, and I had the greatest time because
Speaker 1: my grandmother was just the sweetest woman in the world.
Speaker 1: So I would always have a good time anytime I
Speaker 1: went to late I just have nothing but fun memories
Speaker 1: of Lake Charles, Louisiana. But I started going to New
Speaker 1: Orleans when we started making records, and that was always cool. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Who a whole adoptive family in New Orleans. Damn with me,
Speaker 1: gumbo and good Yeah, I love it. Unbelievable fucking uh Yeah.
Speaker 1: Stopped going to Orleans for a few years because I
Speaker 1: was trying to lose weight. Well, Houston, nothing helpy that
Speaker 1: the Mexican food, the barbecue that we got, any type
Speaker 1: of food that you want, just right here in this city.
Speaker 1: Do you think that all people that lives in Louisiana
Speaker 1: can cook? Because I don't. He can't cook, I can't cook. Cook.
Speaker 1: My mom is not really that great either, if I'm
Speaker 1: being honest. But no, bro, and everybody everybody knows the basics,
Speaker 1: I think, but not everybody's good at it. New Orleans
Speaker 1: reminds me of New York in the sense that it
Speaker 1: was not a lot of traffic. Now well, I'm talking
Speaker 1: about like when it when it comes to like bragging
Speaker 1: on the city, like this is what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 1: a lot of people that's from not not just New Orleans,
Speaker 1: but people in Louisiana, they like to ride the coattail
Speaker 1: of great cooks, and that are great cooks. Great cooks
Speaker 1: have come out of Louisiana great, but everybody tried to
Speaker 1: ride it with. You know, somebody would invite me to
Speaker 1: something that's something and they'll say, well, yeah, man, you know,
Speaker 1: she from New She from Louisiana. And I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: what the hell that means? They don't mean nothing. So
Speaker 1: it's the same thing with like New Yorkers. Uh, there
Speaker 1: are great people that have that are New Yorkers that
Speaker 1: are born and raised in New York, great people who
Speaker 1: have done great things. But then there are also people
Speaker 1: who ain't did ship and ain't got no talent, and
Speaker 1: they think they'll come to the city and they go
Speaker 1: somewhere else and they think just because they're from New York,
Speaker 1: they're supposed to get a pass right and there, and
Speaker 1: they're they're they're not a symbol of the great people
Speaker 1: who built New York. That opposite, Well, that's just how
Speaker 1: life is. We all put people in a little box.
Speaker 1: I kind of Texas. I'm like, want to see a
Speaker 1: guy in a cowboy hat shooting a pistol in the air,
Speaker 1: do you know, wait till September one ship. But then yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: that's when you get to wear your gun on your
Speaker 1: your hip. Those guys even from Houston, though most of
Speaker 1: those people that come here for the rodeo, they're not
Speaker 1: even from Houston. They come from surrounding areas like Alabama
Speaker 1: states and other states and stuff. Yeah, I think they
Speaker 1: come down here and put those fucking cowboy hats something
Speaker 1: to make us look foolish like that, like we really like,
Speaker 1: we're not like that. I don't even know a person
Speaker 1: that wears a cowboy hat in Houston, do you cowboy?
Speaker 1: But my son, Blake, we damn cowboy hats man Blake
Speaker 1: be all on checking the damn cowboy hat on international
Speaker 1: flights and ship What checking the cowboy checking it in?
Speaker 1: What do you mean like putting it under the plane
Speaker 1: special box? All the steps? Are you serious? Sometimes? But
Speaker 1: he's not like that, you know? But he rides horses
Speaker 1: and all this stuff. Likes he likes the cowboy thing.
Speaker 1: I mean women dig it. Yeah yeah, I'll throw on
Speaker 1: a cowboy hat to role play with my girl. I'll
Speaker 1: throw anything on a cop had, a fireman hat, whatever
Speaker 1: you want, just to make it interesting. What's the wild
Speaker 1: rap on? I don't even want to notice? Man, Can
Speaker 1: I stuff my ears? What's the wildest thing? What's the
Speaker 1: wildest role you've ever played in? I probably want a
Speaker 1: full Nazi. That was fun. And she was the Jewish
Speaker 1: girl and I found her in the basement that pulled
Speaker 1: her out. You're not going anywhere, and she said, put
Speaker 1: it in my oven, So yeah, good time. Absolutely put
Speaker 1: it in my oven. Oh yeah, you know that. That
Speaker 1: ain't just risk a man. Uh, that's dark. That is
Speaker 1: they're laughing. I hear some chuckles. My buddy here, he's
Speaker 1: he's Jewish. He's with me, So you gotta mix it up.
Speaker 1: I think you're the first comic that I've ever heard
Speaker 1: tell that type of joke that go that far. You
Speaker 1: you you gotta get out more's is it just jokes?
Speaker 1: Like I've hung out with rappers and they're like, oh,
Speaker 1: I killed a guy once. I'm like, you killed a guy?
Speaker 1: To me, that's real ship. These are just zingers. So
Speaker 1: it's weird how we do that. And in my act,
Speaker 1: all make jokes about murder and everybody laughs, or make
Speaker 1: jokes about killing somebody and everybody laughs. But then you
Speaker 1: make a joke about Jews like whoa, whoa whoa, Like
Speaker 1: that was Murder's what was the part of the meeting
Speaker 1: I said, I said that because we know that rappers
Speaker 1: ain't got to kind of power that Jewish people have.
Speaker 1: And these platforms, even these platforms are you know there control. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Yeah, so was so so
Speaker 1: so to say that. Then you know a lot of
Speaker 1: people just stay away from it. We just don't. They
Speaker 1: just don't talk about. It's just like, um, it's like
Speaker 1: certain other it's almost like a protected class, right. Black
Speaker 1: people ain't never been a protected class, That's true. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna start, um, I'm gonna get an Anti African American
Speaker 1: Defamation League together. I think you should call it something else.
Speaker 1: We have. I'm gonna try to defamation league, but that's
Speaker 1: for the Jewish people though, I know, let's call it
Speaker 1: something else. Can I ask a black question about a
Speaker 1: million questions? You know when you ask your gay friend, like,
Speaker 1: what's it like doing? That's what's do though? But everything
Speaker 1: is so ripped from we bite everything from black people,
Speaker 1: the culture of the fashion, the music, whatever. And it's
Speaker 1: not just white people, it's Indian. Indian guys are acting
Speaker 1: black now, Asians are acting black now. You guys kind
Speaker 1: of set the trend for everything that's in is that
Speaker 1: flattering or is that annoying? It's flattering to me some
Speaker 1: people we were that different. He loves it. I hate it.
Speaker 1: Well I didn't. I didn't say I loved that. I
Speaker 1: said it's because you something can be flattering, you don't
Speaker 1: have to love it. But but he flattered. I think.
Speaker 1: I think. I think imitation is the best phone of flattering,
Speaker 1: you know, And I think it's It's like if somebody
Speaker 1: was to say that if you saw somebody trying to
Speaker 1: rap like you, you know what you what you? I
Speaker 1: know that you would say a man, get your own
Speaker 1: style or whatever. I would say that. But yeah, you
Speaker 1: would say that ship, yeah you said back then, you
Speaker 1: say that ship right now? No, I don't even give
Speaker 1: a funk. So you don't give a funk. So if
Speaker 1: somebody came out right now and you you saw a
Speaker 1: person with your swag, how would you response? So you're
Speaker 1: talking about like like like somebody, like a black dude, anybody,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't give an Okay, all right, Well that's new
Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen, breaking news. Brad Now don't doesn't give
Speaker 1: a funk if somebody bites his style. Oh god, damn, Willie.
Speaker 1: So the thing is this, Uh, but you know what
Speaker 1: makes your point for the finished finish making you up? Well,
Speaker 1: that was it. I just wondered because it's so it happens,
Speaker 1: and it takes whitey a long time to pick up,
Speaker 1: like you know, you hear my grandma will be like
Speaker 1: I have a lot of bling on today. I'm like, jeez,
Speaker 1: that's from twenty years ago. But it just got to her.
Speaker 1: I think. I think the problem happens when black people
Speaker 1: see other people try to jack. That's why when they
Speaker 1: jack it and don't give credit. For instance, like if
Speaker 1: you hit so Kardashian tried to you know, do with dreadlocks,
Speaker 1: do with dreadlocks or something like that, and then not
Speaker 1: not not Kim Kardashian or one of the Kardashians, but
Speaker 1: if one of the one of these report there's some
Speaker 1: journalists says, oh, look at Kim gandash you know she's
Speaker 1: she's a trendsetter and blah blah blah, and black that
Speaker 1: that that's when we take offence to it, like when
Speaker 1: somebody somebody lifted and and not give credit. That makes sense, Yeah,
Speaker 1: because sometimes I think, hey, if this little girl wants
Speaker 1: to dress up as I don't know, Beyonce for Halloween,
Speaker 1: this white girl. Everybody's like, that's appropriation, and like, don't
Speaker 1: get mad at her. She doesn't even see that she's black.
Speaker 1: She's just a huge fan of Beyonce. So why are
Speaker 1: you yelling at this girl for appropriating when she's just
Speaker 1: wearing a costume because she's obsessed with this woman. To me,
Speaker 1: I think that's where we come down too hard, Like
Speaker 1: the appropriating. Well, you're like, no, she's a fan. That's
Speaker 1: a good thing. That little girl doesn't even see that
Speaker 1: she's black. I think that's but sometimes we go too
Speaker 1: far with the But again, if people aren't giving you
Speaker 1: credit that I get. Yeah, And sometimes we can't tell
Speaker 1: if we're trying to come together or if we're trying
Speaker 1: to separate all the time, you know, and that is
Speaker 1: a dicey gray area. And I think we gotta stop
Speaker 1: yelling at people all the time about stuff like that
Speaker 1: because it does more harm than good. There are some
Speaker 1: people that you're right, there are some people that don't
Speaker 1: want to come together. They just don't want to come together.
Speaker 1: And I say to that, if you really really serious
Speaker 1: about not wanting to come together, then you should get
Speaker 1: the funk out of America, because because in America you
Speaker 1: have no choice but but to coexist. And if if
Speaker 1: you're gonna coexist, why would you want to walk around
Speaker 1: in a society where you're always bumping heads with somebody
Speaker 1: just based strictly off what they look like, just that
Speaker 1: skin color. It's just based just off that alone. Every
Speaker 1: time you you see somebody, they hear about some somebody
Speaker 1: saying something that doesn't look like you. Uh, they get
Speaker 1: accused of doing something, then it just triggers you. It's
Speaker 1: just messaging. I don't want to live like that with you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: things don't have to be that difficult. You're making it difficult.
Speaker 1: We we don't, we really, I think sometimes you know myself,
Speaker 1: including Brad, we get a bad rap for bringing these
Speaker 1: like bringing serious topics two the table, speaking on uh
Speaker 1: corruption and people who stretched their authority. We get there
Speaker 1: that not like no, if the shoot fits, you wear
Speaker 1: the motherfucker, lace it up. But if if we if
Speaker 1: if if you're not this evil, dirty, low down motherfucker,
Speaker 1: then we're not talking about you. It's about it. It's
Speaker 1: about if the shoe fitch you wear it. So I'm
Speaker 1: never going to be silent. So my white friends are
Speaker 1: my white fans can be comfortable. I'm never gonna be
Speaker 1: silent about injustice. So my wife friends or my wife
Speaker 1: fans can be comfortable. Like the people who with it,
Speaker 1: the real friends, the real fans, they get it. The
Speaker 1: rest of them fuck them straight up with an illness like, oh,
Speaker 1: I got leukemia, but I don't want to make anybody
Speaker 1: on couple, so I won't say it. No, we gotta
Speaker 1: fix the leukemia, so let's hear it. Sure it'll be awkward,
Speaker 1: but we canna deal with it. Yeah, absolutely, And I
Speaker 1: think that that's the way that that we that we
Speaker 1: get the ship worked out, because we ain't nobody going
Speaker 1: on where everybody talk a lot of ship, but ain't
Speaker 1: nobody going Yeah, so if we got to, if we
Speaker 1: got to coexist, wouldn't if you, let's say, when you're
Speaker 1: in your comfort zone, you know everything's cool and you're
Speaker 1: not you don't have to be around certain people. That's cool.
Speaker 1: But what happens if you hop in your car and
Speaker 1: you drive down the street and you gotta stop and
Speaker 1: maybe take a leak at the gas they that someone
Speaker 1: get some gas or whatever, and then you run into
Speaker 1: somebody that don't look like you and you're on the
Speaker 1: same aisle and you know you're reaching at the same
Speaker 1: time or whatever. You know, you know when you rether,
Speaker 1: this person be somebody that has some damn empathy for you.
Speaker 1: Sure you know what I'm saying that you at least
Speaker 1: this person is civilized, you know, yea, So now I'm
Speaker 1: with you. People. People get It's like when people go
Speaker 1: your culturally appropriating black culture, you've gotta be more woke.
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know who came up with the word woke?
Speaker 1: Now you're just doing it. You see what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like they'll yell at you for something they're doing at
Speaker 1: the exact moment. So I just think everybody's making a
Speaker 1: lot of ship out of nothing. We just gotta come together,
Speaker 1: we gotta coexist, and we can't. We're focusing on race
Speaker 1: almost too much now. I think that it's like putting
Speaker 1: a magnifying glass on it instead of just living Like, oh,
Speaker 1: this TV show it has twelve black people, should have thirteen.
Speaker 1: It's like, well, why the fund you sit here counting
Speaker 1: black people? Isn't that weird? I don't know, it just
Speaker 1: feels like I feel like we're we're not perfect as
Speaker 1: a country. But we're getting better. We've had you know,
Speaker 1: black president, Black Kamala Harris or whatever. Black. We're getting
Speaker 1: there and it's not per it's gonna take a while.
Speaker 1: But instead of always just going we're horrible, were horrible, horrible,
Speaker 1: you know, it shouldn't take a while. It should because
Speaker 1: because no, it shouldn't, because we see it. We see
Speaker 1: everything that's fucked up with what's going on in society today.
Speaker 1: So make the fucking adjustment between two shoes, just like you.
Speaker 1: And if our skin called is the only thing that
Speaker 1: separate system, we shouldn't be separated at all. That's it.
Speaker 1: I don't get it. That's all. That's It's that simple.
Speaker 1: But it's easy enough for motherfucker to say, hey, if you,
Speaker 1: if you, if you commit a crime against Asian people,
Speaker 1: Black people, Jewish people, it's just people, any people period
Speaker 1: out there for everybody like that. Don't just do it
Speaker 1: for just one one group of people with two groups
Speaker 1: of people, you know, don't don't don't. Don't put a
Speaker 1: band of protection on the LGBTQ community and don't put
Speaker 1: it on the black but don't put it on in
Speaker 1: a straight community. There's any community for sure. Yeah, like don't. Don't.
Speaker 1: Don't do that. We see what the fucking problem is.
Speaker 1: And they constantly want to spoon feed us. You know, oh, ship,
Speaker 1: you want to you want some water? Right, there's some water? No, mother,
Speaker 1: give me the goddamn bottle. Fucking playing with me, bro,
Speaker 1: you want some water? Why do you need water? Some time?
Speaker 1: You won't even get that. You know, all people need water,
Speaker 1: not just black people, all big water. Yeah, for sure,
Speaker 1: that's a joke. But yeah, yeah, it's it's crazy out there.
Speaker 1: You've done, yeah, a couple of times. You've done the
Speaker 1: lace shown, you know, with Cobra and all that kind
Speaker 1: of stuff, and I know you gotta did you say
Speaker 1: you have a Nick Nick Nick special coming out coming out? Yeah?
Speaker 1: What's the name of it. It's just gonna it's a
Speaker 1: it's a little half hour thing. It's called yeah, a
Speaker 1: couple of bucks, no ship. Yeah, Yeah, it's just called
Speaker 1: the stand Up Season three. They do one a year.
Speaker 1: Can I get some money from from comedy? I'll send
Speaker 1: you a check. That YouTube special that you did, Yes,
Speaker 1: why did you take it to YouTube? Did you take
Speaker 1: it over that first and didn't want to? Yeah? They
Speaker 1: didn't care. They're just like we've never heard of you.
Speaker 1: I have no juice in this business. You know this,
Speaker 1: this podcast might help, but I got no juice. So
Speaker 1: they're like, who are you? Why would why would we
Speaker 1: take this and give you a bunch of money? You're nobody.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I know, but I think it's good. I
Speaker 1: think there's quality in here. Man. That that just goes
Speaker 1: to show you there are a lot of people out
Speaker 1: there who don't know what that are, and powerful posessions
Speaker 1: who don't know what the hill they're doing. And to
Speaker 1: all you people out there that are that are trying,
Speaker 1: that's got something and you're knocking on doors and knocking on,
Speaker 1: keep knocking, keep keep doing what you're doing, because a
Speaker 1: lot of these people don't know what the hell they're
Speaker 1: talking about. Man, you cannot just I've heard stories where
Speaker 1: people who are all the way at the top were
Speaker 1: approached by people who are all the way at the bottom,
Speaker 1: who were very, very good at what they were doing,
Speaker 1: and that person told me, you don't stand the chance
Speaker 1: to get the hell out of here right in the
Speaker 1: next few years or so, that person blew all the
Speaker 1: way up and past surpassingly. So there's these gatekeepers now
Speaker 1: or they always have been but if you can go
Speaker 1: around them. I mean, hell, like I think n w
Speaker 1: A had a ton of problems with getting agencies and
Speaker 1: reps to get people like who's gonna buy this ship?
Speaker 1: And then it just hit. They did it on their own.
Speaker 1: You build it in their word of mouth and if
Speaker 1: it's good, people will find it. So it was a
Speaker 1: huge failure for me to not get picked up by HBO, Netflix, nothing.
Speaker 1: So I put it on YouTube and it hit and
Speaker 1: is on YouTube. They because it's got seven million views
Speaker 1: and it's all mine. Yeah, ship, So that feels good.
Speaker 1: That's good man. It's always good to see good people
Speaker 1: and you know, and and when you're talking about comedy, uh, specifically,
Speaker 1: it's good to see good comics get get some shines,
Speaker 1: appreciate you know, because you got. I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: even understand how somebody, well I understand, I don't know
Speaker 1: if the hell they're doing. I was about to say,
Speaker 1: I don't understand that somebody could hear your comedy and
Speaker 1: say this dude ain't funny. Well, we'll show me a
Speaker 1: motherfucker who's funny and put them on the side of
Speaker 1: him and let me hear, let me hear what you're
Speaker 1: talking about it now. Granted that you know that's different
Speaker 1: styles of comedy whatever, but for your brand, your style,
Speaker 1: show me somebody that's better. We got down. I'm glad.
Speaker 1: I'm glad. I'm glad you're not. But that means the
Speaker 1: world to me, and I appreciate if you just keep
Speaker 1: going and let the people find your ship. Put it
Speaker 1: out there somewhere they if it's good, they'll find it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if it sucks, who knows. But no, you're funny. It's
Speaker 1: come on. I can't take a compliment, but thank you.
Speaker 1: I wish you were my parents. You guys, you guys
Speaker 1: care more and like me more than my own folks.
Speaker 1: But hey, maybe that's why I'm funny, No doubt. My
Speaker 1: man Mark Norman fan say, man, so can you tell
Speaker 1: people how to reach out? And sure, I'm on Black
Speaker 1: People Meet dot com. No, I'm at I'm at a
Speaker 1: Mark Norman comedy dot com. I got podcasts, I got Twitter,
Speaker 1: I got Instagram, I'm on the road. I'm coming to
Speaker 1: your town. Say hello, let's get a nice mixed audience
Speaker 1: in there. So when I do black jokes, the black
Speaker 1: people laugh and the scared white people can watch them.
Speaker 1: Laughing and realize it's gonna be okay and they can
Speaker 1: laugh and they can laugh then. And you only got
Speaker 1: like eight T shirts. I'm out of shirts. We sold out,
Speaker 1: but we're pritting more, goddamn it. So say hello, come out,
Speaker 1: give me a hug, and uh and uh, praise all
Speaker 1: uh And that's a rat. This episode was produced by
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