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Speaker 2: Hey, what's going on? It is rad with another awesome

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Speaker 2: Underwater Demolition Team Navy Seal Frogman. Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 3: Well, thank you very much. It's my pleasure.

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Speaker 4: The book has been a is you know, it's kind

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Speaker 4: of a controversial thing in the seal world to write

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Speaker 4: a book, right, so not all of my friends even

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Speaker 4: know I wrote a book, which is good.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's called Frogman Stories, And I'm sure there has

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Speaker 2: to be something that, you know, inspires the youth of

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Speaker 2: yesterday to be the Frogman of today. You know, whether

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Speaker 2: it's boy you know Jacques Cousteau, right, you know, talking

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Speaker 2: about his underwater adventures and you know or twenty thousan

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Speaker 2: leagues under the sea. You know what's under the sea, right,

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Speaker 2: And and there you go. What how old were you?

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Speaker 2: Let me ask you this, let's get right into that.

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Speaker 2: How old were you when you decided you wanted to

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Speaker 2: join the military.

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Speaker 4: I was born raised in south of Milwaukee, Wisconsin, and

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Speaker 4: I think I always had to fascination with the water

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Speaker 4: in the ocean, and like you were talking about with JOCKU,

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Speaker 4: I mean, I loved watching the undersea world of Jack Bustow,

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Speaker 4: and I thought my best way to get to that

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Speaker 3: So I was sixteen actually when I went into the Naval.

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Speaker 4: Navy recruiter's office and thought that I wanted to join

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Speaker 4: going to submarines and be a sub mariner. And on

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Speaker 4: his desk he had a little pamphlet, this is back

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Speaker 4: in the seventies, late seventies, a little pamphlet on navy seals.

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Speaker 3: And I had never even heard of that before, right, And.

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Speaker 4: It was about five pages, and it had just pictures

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Speaker 4: pamphlet home. I thought about it for a couple of

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Speaker 2: Was there an indoctrination class or did you go straight

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Speaker 3: Back when I did it.

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Speaker 4: It's a lot different now, but when I did it,

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Speaker 4: as I joined the Navy, you go to boot camp.

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Speaker 3: I went to Orlando, Florida, and then.

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Speaker 4: I went to like a school, which is the Navy's

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Speaker 4: basic training to learn a skill. So if I failed

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Speaker 4: So I went to my case, I went to Whole Technician,

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Speaker 3: And then I went from there to Buds. So it

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Speaker 4: Know, six months from the time I joined did boot

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Speaker 2: you know, deciding that this is there. They want to

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Speaker 2: being homesick at boot camp. What did you ever experience

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Speaker 2: You want to sleep. When you sleep, you're like not

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Speaker 2: You know, if you're on the fence about, you know,

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Speaker 2: Where you might see a pamphlet. You might have thought

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Speaker 2: getting welding trade firefighting trade. In need of the Navy

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Speaker 3: So I run the Navy Seal Museum in Fort Pierce, Florida,

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Speaker 3: But Betrad, like Fort Pierce or the other places we

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Speaker 4: Do is like immediately if mom and dad walk in

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Speaker 4: Because I don't want them asking me questions for their kid,

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Speaker 2: Is when they're ready, when they say they're like, hey,

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Speaker 2: let me talk to him. Yeah, I'll be right back. No,

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Speaker 2: know that, young man, No, I feel you. And uh,

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Speaker 2: I remember when I went in through my recruiting to

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Speaker 2: that over on me. He said, this is your choice.

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Speaker 2: You're choosing to do this. I'm not forcing you to

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Speaker 2: you can't. You can't be forced, right, And that's that's

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Speaker 2: what happened with like say, you know, conscriptions and forced

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Speaker 2: with South Korea, but you have forced military Israel, you

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Speaker 2: we have the draft. We register for selective service as

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Speaker 2: Do you think to man anger?

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Speaker 4: I mean, I know this is old school thinking, but

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Speaker 4: I believe that a mandatory service of some sort for

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Speaker 4: be in the military, it can be something else.

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Speaker 4: The places I've gone that I've seen this, I think

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Speaker 2: Like look at Israel right now, Right, they have a

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Speaker 2: so so I mean that really that's that's a real

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Speaker 4: So I think once I figured out that, you know,

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Speaker 2: Of this work. Was there somebody that stood out that

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think, you know, I had some really good

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Speaker 4: Willie Hines. Really awesome steel, way too smart to be

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Speaker 3: So, like anyway, this is the kind.

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Speaker 2: And you know what, I didn't even like read off

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Speaker 2: We've seen it. He served at Seal Team six from

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Speaker 3: Yes, happy way, happy life.

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Speaker 2: You're right exactly exactly, and so so you come to

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Speaker 4: But I'm still serving with as part of the museum

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you can go in there and talk with

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Speaker 4: So normally most of our volunteers are veterans, not necessarily

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they'll bring out master Chief. Do you still

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't you know what if I don't know

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Speaker 2: Oh no, I've seen Flight of the It's got to

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Speaker 3: It is, it is they put worse but worse.

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Speaker 2: Hawk Down. A friend of mine he was there as well.

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Speaker 4: Well, the way it works in a seal team is

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Speaker 3: How we're exactly we're going to do this, right.

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Speaker 4: It's the officer, the seal officer's job to coordinate how

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Speaker 2: They're cool with that. They'll take that name. Yeah, that's cool,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a little bit, a little bit of a time there,

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Speaker 2: That's when it was like, everybody needs to go back

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So, you know what I tell people when I

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Speaker 3: That's basically what it was.

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Speaker 4: We saw footage of you know, truckloads of fighters coming

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Speaker 3: Right.

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00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:07,280
Speaker 4: So, anyway, as the day progressed and we actually went

437
00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:09,120
Speaker 4: in for this, I actually went in for the third

438
00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:11,480
Speaker 4: time to go and rescue some of the guys that

439
00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:14,879
Speaker 4: were stuck in the city. When everybody was recovered and

440
00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:17,760
Speaker 4: the sun started coming up, we started getting a lot

441
00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:20,480
Speaker 4: more small arms fire, obviously because.

442
00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:22,000
Speaker 3: You know, they could see us.

443
00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,120
Speaker 4: We're the only ones that hit the night vision, and

444
00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:27,480
Speaker 4: they basically said, hey, let's go, let's get the hell

445
00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:30,360
Speaker 4: out of here before you know, before it gets you know.

446
00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:31,960
Speaker 3: Like the day before. Right.

447
00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:35,840
Speaker 4: So when that happened, everybody just you know, cranked up

448
00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:39,840
Speaker 4: their humbes and whatever they were on and headed towards

449
00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:40,840
Speaker 4: the soccer stadium.

450
00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:43,640
Speaker 3: And unfortunately, some people.

451
00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:46,359
Speaker 4: Got left behind in that mad dash to get the

452
00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:49,600
Speaker 4: hell out of the town. And so we went picked

453
00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:51,840
Speaker 4: up some people and along the way once we realized

454
00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:52,919
Speaker 4: what was happening.

455
00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:54,560
Speaker 2: Just a lot of bounding and overwatches that what you

456
00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:56,359
Speaker 2: were doing, I mean, was your thought process, like we

457
00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:56,800
Speaker 2: got no.

458
00:21:56,800 --> 00:22:01,080
Speaker 4: It's kind of a it was a joint with units

459
00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:03,440
Speaker 4: that had never trained together. Right, So you had Tenth

460
00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:07,240
Speaker 4: Mount Division, you had you know, the Rangers, you had

461
00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:11,040
Speaker 4: the seals, you had RMYSF. So you had all that

462
00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:14,080
Speaker 4: and none of us that actually worked together.

463
00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:15,320
Speaker 3: The communications was.

464
00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:18,199
Speaker 4: Pretty poor between the different units as far as you

465
00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:21,280
Speaker 4: know who's in charge, who's doing what? You know, ask

466
00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:25,680
Speaker 4: the recipe for disaster, you know, and that's basically what happened,

467
00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:29,200
Speaker 4: but luckily didn't prove to be a disaster. Because most

468
00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:32,960
Speaker 4: people are good runners. When you're getting you become a

469
00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:33,440
Speaker 4: good runner.

470
00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:35,760
Speaker 2: You guys have horse ties. You guys are trained to

471
00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:38,280
Speaker 2: taper your legs by my friend, I tell you what.

472
00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:41,600
Speaker 2: You guys are runners, runners and runners. So that makes

473
00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:43,879
Speaker 2: sense when you watch the movie Black Hawk Down and

474
00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:47,119
Speaker 2: you see every ounce of energy given to combat, but

475
00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:50,480
Speaker 2: yet they still have to just go one more mile

476
00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,800
Speaker 2: running with you know, their friends and their gear and

477
00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:56,280
Speaker 2: they're slodging along and they're just making it happen. It

478
00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:59,720
Speaker 2: kind of shows you the resolve, you know, that training

479
00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,119
Speaker 2: and kick in and push you through. Like you said,

480
00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:04,360
Speaker 2: I think maybe you said everybody can do it, it's

481
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,480
Speaker 2: just seventy percent of them wash out of it kind

482
00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:08,720
Speaker 2: of attitude if they just know that it's about the

483
00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:12,680
Speaker 2: next minute and just moving forward, right yepro.

484
00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:14,120
Speaker 3: So it was when we did get to the stadium.

485
00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:16,720
Speaker 4: It was kind of like a surreal environment if you

486
00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:20,320
Speaker 4: can imagine, all the helicopters were in the center, you know,

487
00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:23,560
Speaker 4: take metavacking people out because of the original you know,

488
00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,280
Speaker 4: one hundred people that went in there. We lost you know,

489
00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:31,040
Speaker 4: eighteen of them that were kise and you know a

490
00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:35,680
Speaker 4: good seventy of them were wounded, so luckily unscathed. They

491
00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:39,480
Speaker 4: just sat in the in the bleachers right with two

492
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Speaker 4: of my other seal friends if one of them had

493
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:45,400
Speaker 4: been shot, and one of the Pakistani soldiers came by

494
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:47,639
Speaker 4: and gave us some soup, and it was just like

495
00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,320
Speaker 4: a surreal This guy's like here you go, and we're like,

496
00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:52,760
Speaker 4: thank you very much, as we're watching all this carnage

497
00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:55,520
Speaker 4: in front of us, wondering for when it was our

498
00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:56,480
Speaker 4: time to get out of there.

499
00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 3: And finally we got.

500
00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:59,320
Speaker 4: A helicopter and flew back to the base and they

501
00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:01,680
Speaker 4: basically said, and you know, reload, we're getting ready to.

502
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:02,440
Speaker 3: Go back out again.

503
00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:05,520
Speaker 4: And that's you know exactly how it is when you're

504
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:08,240
Speaker 4: going through BUDGS training. You think it's over and then

505
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,360
Speaker 4: they say, oh, we were going to do one more

506
00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:12,160
Speaker 4: mile or we're gonna do you know.

507
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:14,919
Speaker 2: We're gonna take the pillow out from your head exactly.

508
00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:16,960
Speaker 3: And that's how they break people.

509
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 4: But if you're ready for it, in which we you

510
00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:22,080
Speaker 4: know we were, it's just another another day.

511
00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:25,040
Speaker 2: You're like, oh, we're spinning up, let's go. That's just

512
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 2: what we do. And so you're already psychologically built. Yeah,

513
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:32,240
Speaker 2: your instructors legoed your brain together.

514
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,360
Speaker 3: Yeah.

515
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:38,000
Speaker 2: See, I've been boxing for you know, about eight months now,

516
00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:40,160
Speaker 2: but probably about two hundred days in that eight months

517
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:43,000
Speaker 2: I've gone, and so I feel that all of a sudden,

518
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:44,840
Speaker 2: I get this brain fog at the bag. My coach

519
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:46,719
Speaker 2: will be like two three two three five four five

520
00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:49,080
Speaker 2: slip slip pop, you know what. I'm like, Okay, I

521
00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:51,840
Speaker 2: get the first three sets down and I'll forget and

522
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,439
Speaker 2: they'll say it to me and I'm like, oh ba bam,

523
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:56,320
Speaker 2: right back to it. And I was like, oh, you

524
00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,600
Speaker 2: got my dog whistle coach. Oh you you know. He's like,

525
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,320
Speaker 2: that's why I would be in your corner. He's like,

526
00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:04,080
Speaker 2: because if I saw you freeze up, I would just

527
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:06,240
Speaker 2: tell you what you need and boom you get it done.

528
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:09,240
Speaker 2: And I was like, oh yeah, dude, program me unlock

529
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:14,159
Speaker 2: that character inside of me sir, that is right, and

530
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:17,320
Speaker 2: that's what happened with you. Your instructors knew the character

531
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,359
Speaker 2: that you were, and they unlocked you and all of

532
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:22,679
Speaker 2: your special powers like some crazy video game character. You

533
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,280
Speaker 2: get the sniper platform, you get the cool skins, you

534
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:28,320
Speaker 2: get all the cool beer, you get the accessories. You know,

535
00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:31,159
Speaker 2: you have all the download ble content. Immediately, it's like,

536
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:32,960
Speaker 2: oh and a satellite phone.

537
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:34,840
Speaker 3: All that stuff comes at a price.

538
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,119
Speaker 2: I know it comes at a price. And you know,

539
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:40,240
Speaker 2: and if my listener wants to know what price that is,

540
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,880
Speaker 2: go talk to a Navy recruiter or your local career

541
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,359
Speaker 2: counselor and find out what that price is, because I

542
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,639
Speaker 2: promise you it's a blank check of you.

543
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:49,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.

544
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:51,960
Speaker 2: Okay, So that's so thank you for.

545
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:54,720
Speaker 4: What I would say to any young person is they

546
00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,840
Speaker 4: can't go wrong. Though cannot go wrong by joining the military.

547
00:25:57,880 --> 00:25:59,639
Speaker 4: You don't have to be a seal, you don't have

548
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:01,720
Speaker 4: to join the Navy. You can do anything. There's so

549
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:05,880
Speaker 4: many opportunities out there. It's heartbreaking to see that they're

550
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 4: having trouble recruiting young young people.

551
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 3: But why does that surprise you?

552
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:15,400
Speaker 4: After things like you know, the pullout in Afghanistan, or

553
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:17,680
Speaker 4: you know some of the stuff crazy stuff that's going.

554
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:21,720
Speaker 2: Like holding promotions hostage over officers who have earned the

555
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:23,960
Speaker 2: right to move up in their life, no matter what

556
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 2: side of the aisle. Like And I know during George

557
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,440
Speaker 2: Washington days, Congress was always like, you know, holding things

558
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:31,840
Speaker 2: over his head, and there's always a battle between you know,

559
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:35,439
Speaker 2: executive branch, legislative branch, all these different branches. But you know,

560
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:36,960
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, when I was talking

561
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,639
Speaker 2: to a major general, I asked him, how did you

562
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:43,400
Speaker 2: transition all the paperwork from George W. Bush to President

563
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:46,600
Speaker 2: Obama without having like any type of political bias. And

564
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,160
Speaker 2: he's like, well, Rad, it doesn't matter who I vote

565
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:52,720
Speaker 2: for because it says US Navy, US Army, US Marines,

566
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 2: US Air Force on our name tapes, and so first

567
00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 2: and foremost at US. And so he's like, you know,

568
00:26:58,280 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 2: you know, it may not be my guy in the race,

569
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:01,920
Speaker 2: but he's my guy now. And so here's the book

570
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 2: of stuff that he was supposed to focus on, et cetera.

571
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:04,480
Speaker 2: You know, these are the.

572
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 3: Most important things. That's the way it has to work.

573
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 2: And I love that sentiment of like it's the US,

574
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 2: We're the us, right, Like we're supposed to have a

575
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 2: difference of opinions. We're just normal human beings and we

576
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,120
Speaker 2: have thoughts. But at the end of the day, we're

577
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 2: all under the same umbrella of the red, white, and

578
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 2: blue or those stars and stripes. And I'm a big

579
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 2: believer in just like we just need one flag in America.

580
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:28,160
Speaker 3: No, I agree with it.

581
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,399
Speaker 4: And mean, you think those people that are being the

582
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,679
Speaker 4: Americans being held and guys right now care who the

583
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:34,359
Speaker 4: president is.

584
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 3: No, you just want to get rescued.

585
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 2: They don't correct, No, and they do need to be rescued.

586
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 2: And again with Gaza, right and and so I would

587
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 2: like free Palestinian people not under oppression, and I would

588
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:49,879
Speaker 2: like free people in the world not under oppression. Let

589
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 2: me just put that out there, right. I'm not saying

590
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 2: one way or the other. I just think that, you know,

591
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 2: Israel has a right to defend itself from hostile acts.

592
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:58,959
Speaker 2: And I also think that some of the people in

593
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Speaker 2: you know, Palestine don't want to be a part of

594
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 2: the hostile acts, but they're like caught in the middle

595
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 2: of it all. And you know, the media likes to

596
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 2: like let us know who those people are. It's usually

597
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:12,360
Speaker 2: women and children right that are just constantly being attacked

598
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,680
Speaker 2: and there's no one that can verify it. And there's

599
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 2: no one that can't verify it. It's just like this

600
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:20,160
Speaker 2: omnious The media tells us what's up. So yes, free

601
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 2: the hostages. If there's a ceasefire happening right now in

602
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,400
Speaker 2: Gaza and we're coming to a ceasefire, the hostages need

603
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 2: to be a part of that ceasefire. Like, if there's

604
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:31,720
Speaker 2: an agreement, please just release them so that it can stop.

605
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 4: I agree, get them out, That's what I'm saying. Can

606
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:37,919
Speaker 4: you imagine those poor people what they're going through. I mean,

607
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 4: they're scarred for life.

608
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 2: You know. I've seen some that have gone to the

609
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 2: media after they got out and they're just like, you know,

610
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 2: let us just go, like, just let them go home,

611
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 2: Like this isn't worth it. You know, it's not worth it.

612
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 2: And if Hamas leadership really thinks it's worth it, wow,

613
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 2: you're losing, like twenty e lost twenty five thousand civilian

614
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 2: people and your whole entire city is gone, right is

615
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 2: it really worth it? Right? And I guess that's for

616
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 2: those to decide. But again, when I mentioned earlier that

617
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 2: the veterans over there were the ones protesting net and Yahoo.

618
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 2: That's true. There was a huge uprising until this kicked

619
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 2: off and he was they were asking him to be removed,

620
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 2: and they're still asking for him to be removed. So

621
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 2: on both sides of the fence, what do you think

622
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 2: about that?

623
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Speaker 3: You know, I don't really have an opinion on their politics.

624
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 4: I was surprised that more of the Israeli citizens, you know,

625
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 4: don't have guns. I guess that was the surprising thing

626
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 4: to me, because most of them are veterans to train, right,

627
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 4: but there is just not in their culture.

628
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 3: To have a gun in now.

629
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 4: And that's really what allowed Amas to come in there

630
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 4: and kill so many and take so many hostage because

631
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 4: they didn't have any way to defend themselves.

632
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 3: So just a thought for everybody in this country, you know.

633
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, and for people to kind of blame their politicians like, oh,

634
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 2: well it took four hours or however many hours from

635
00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,160
Speaker 2: them to respond, or you know, et cetera. Why they

636
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 2: allow it to come into the Iron Dome in the

637
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 2: first place. I mean, you know, I'm just a pundit.

638
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 2: I'm just the back armchair quarterbacking just like everybody else.

639
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 2: Right now. I'm not on the ground, I'm just saying

640
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 2: what I'm hearing, right. I see people who are non

641
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 2: Jewish wholly advocating for the whole culture of like this

642
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 2: needs to stop, right, and they've just it's just taken

643
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 2: over for them, right, they just have such a faith

644
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 2: a faith and wanted to see Israel free and Gaza

645
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 2: and Israeli's the hostage is freed. I just want to

646
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 2: see that too, you know, Is that what you want

647
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 2: to see also?

648
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,960
Speaker 3: Of course, yeah, yeah, of course I don't see that.

649
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 3: I don't see it happening anytime soon.

650
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 2: But what if they're not, though, what if the hostages

651
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 2: for the you know, have met their fate. What if

652
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 2: that's the situation. What's the thoughts of a maybe seal?

653
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 4: I mean, it would be a terrible thing if it

654
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 4: was one of my family members in there. But I

655
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 4: also understand exactly what the thought process is. If they

656
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 4: don't stand up and do something now, it's not gonna

657
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 4: it's going to end eventually, right And if they don't

658
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 4: get their goals accomplished, then it's going to happen again.

659
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 3: So I understand both sides of this. There's aye you.

660
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 4: Never win winters of war, right, I mean like Somalia

661
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 4: for example, there's we're still fighting in Somalia.

662
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 3: We still had US troops in Somalia.

663
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 4: So what did we accomplish you know, thirty years ago.

664
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 3: Nothing?

665
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 2: So it's still going on. Yeah, the car market still

666
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 2: thrives with sixty dollars plato aks. Absolutely, sixty thousand in

667
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 2: the US, though I don't understand. Okay, sixty thousand dollars

668
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 2: for the same ak in the US is sixty bucks

669
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 2: into the car market.

670
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, crazy, absolutely, it is.

671
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 2: It is. It's just it's just it's crazy. And then

672
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 2: we have all these other actors that are trying to

673
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 2: get into like the shipping lanes. And we just lost

674
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 2: two seals recently that had tried to board or whatever

675
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 2: the case was with the vessel in the Red Sea,

676
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 2: and you know they've met their fate according to.

677
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll step into that one.

678
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 4: You know, when we do shipboarding, it's probably one of

679
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 4: the most dangerous things you can do. It's at night

680
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 4: usually you know, it depends on the sea state and

681
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 4: how safe it is, but normally there's some sort of

682
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 4: sea state. So when you come up along a bigger

683
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 4: ship with a small boat. I mean, the small boat

684
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 4: is next to that and it's moving like this, and

685
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 4: the big ship doesn't move, and you have to There's

686
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 4: so many things that can go wrong. It's just incredible.

687
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 4: And I've seen many of my friends get popped off

688
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 4: a ladder. It doesn't matter how strong you are or

689
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 4: your technique. If the boat decides to go down, well,

690
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 4: you're on the ladder and it catches on that ladder,

691
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 4: you're off that ladder, and you better hope you don't

692
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 4: hit something on the way down, like your other teammate

693
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 4: or the boat. And then once you hit the water,

694
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 4: if you're still conscious, you have to you know, get

695
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 4: your stuff off, get to the surface.

696
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 3: And unfortunately those two guys didn't make it.

697
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 2: No, and uh, those guys would have been outfitted probably

698
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 2: in like some type of device that they could have

699
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 2: pulled the cord and ripped their putting off of style

700
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 2: equipment train with that.

701
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:16,480
Speaker 3: We train that all the time.

702
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 4: You know, they do buoyancy testing, so you jump into

703
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 4: the pool and make sure that you know, if you

704
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 4: go to the bottom you're too heavy, you need to

705
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 4: change something up. And they have floatation devices obviously on

706
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:32,480
Speaker 4: them also, so I guess We'll just never know what happened.

707
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 2: You Like, even the plates are cut in a swimmer fashion.

708
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 2: They're called swimmer cut plates for the plates, so you

709
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 2: guys can have the movement of the freedom. There's just

710
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 2: a lot of technical stuff that goes into a Navy

711
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 2: Seals kit to help them be the best and be successful.

712
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 2: And these guys probably wouldn't have taken the task of

713
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 2: boarding if it was not if it wasn't worth it. Right,

714
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 2: they can stay.

715
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 4: Right, right, No, I mean the team, even though we

716
00:33:57,640 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 4: lost two guys, completed the mission right, and they took

717
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 4: them and sure enough, there was a bunch of arms

718
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 4: on it that were being transported to I can't remember

719
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 4: right the story where it.

720
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 2: Was being warheads, I think is what it was. I

721
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 2: think there was some warheads.

722
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 4: They completed the mission, but it was a big it

723
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 4: was a great cost unfortunately.

724
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, and uh and uh, you know, rest easy for

725
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 2: those guys and their family. Sorry for the loss and

726
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 2: the community. You know, it hit hard. And I know

727
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:25,799
Speaker 2: software has a lot of family like.

728
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 4: Yep, so we'll be adding their names on the We

729
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,799
Speaker 4: have a Navy Seat of memorial at our museum and

730
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 4: four peers Memorial Day and it's a great ceremony. Guest speakers,

731
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 4: all the family members will show up and we will

732
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 4: unveil the names at the memorial.

733
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 2: That's very kind and very thoughtful and just a legacy

734
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 2: to keep their names always out there, hundred percent top

735
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 2: of mind. You know, been to plenty of funerals and

736
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 2: the only thing we want to see is the photos

737
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 2: and just like the memories and so keeping the name alive,

738
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 2: you know, that's very cool. I do want my own pyramid.

739
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:06,239
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to piggyback off on that, but you

740
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:07,760
Speaker 2: know we do. Yeah.

741
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 4: So the book was I mean one of the reasons

742
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 4: I wrote the book was so I could promote the museum, right,

743
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 4: that's my job, that's my mission. So and so far

744
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:18,799
Speaker 4: as it's helped a lot, you know. So I've had

745
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,880
Speaker 4: a lot of new people that are learning about the

746
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:26,240
Speaker 4: museum and what we do, and it's been it's been.

747
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 2: Wild, right, stories that you can tell in the museum, bro,

748
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 2: I mean the stories that can come out of the

749
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 2: just whatever canvas strap is attached to somebody's chest rigging there.

750
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 2: If I go in there, I would just stare at

751
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,360
Speaker 2: the buckles. I'd be like, what here? Were those buckles?

752
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 2: Are those two thousand and three? So what was he

753
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 2: doing in Khaki two thousand and three with black buckles?

754
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 2: You know. There's just like the small little things in

755
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 2: my mind, you know. And so where can we Is

756
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:52,759
Speaker 2: there a website that I could have put in?

757
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:57,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, at www dot Navy Seal Museums dot org and

758
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:02,840
Speaker 4: the Florida to say the California site is coming online.

759
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,279
Speaker 3: It'll be opened by the next end of this year.

760
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 4: Fort Pierces the museum has been open since nineteen eighty five, right,

761
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 4: So we've been around in Florida because Fort Pierce is

762
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 4: the birthplace of the Navy Seal just so you know,

763
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 4: so a lot of the first thing people ask me

764
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 4: is why in the world is the Navy.

765
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 3: Seal Museum in Fort Pierce, Florida.

766
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:27,399
Speaker 4: Well, eighty years ago the original frogmen trained to take

767
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,479
Speaker 4: the beaches in Normandy, Great and four Piers and that's

768
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 4: why we're there. So the museum is actually on the

769
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 4: Navy base that existed back those eighty years ago in

770
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 4: World War Two.

771
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:40,880
Speaker 3: So that that's all.

772
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:42,719
Speaker 2: Tied to guess well, you know, I have to just

773
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 2: give my dad a shout out again. The one thing

774
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 2: that always eluded him. On his uniform was a combat

775
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:51,879
Speaker 2: diver badge. That was the one thing that he I'm

776
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:56,439
Speaker 2: just not green bray enough because he was a young

777
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:57,720
Speaker 2: man diving. Yeah.

778
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 4: Do you really deserve a combat diving badge for diving

779
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:02,280
Speaker 4: in Key West?

780
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 3: Oh?

781
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 2: Yeah? Really really, he just wanted to have that scuba ahead.

782
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 2: I think with the the I.

783
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:09,840
Speaker 4: Mean even in the dead of night, the water is

784
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 4: so clear you can see exactly what you're doing from

785
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 4: the moon or whatever.

786
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 2: But he was a young boy that dived Lake Michigan

787
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 2: off of a tugboat down to tugboats when he was

788
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,320
Speaker 2: like sixteen, and then he joined in seventeen the Navy,

789
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 2: and then he went from the he does. He's from

790
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 2: Two Rivers if you know Wisconsin. He's from Two Rivers, Wisconsin. Yeah,

791
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 2: which means that I'm kind of from Two Rivers Wisconsin.

792
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 3: Yeah.

793
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 4: Well I'm from I think I'm from Florida now because

794
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:40,479
Speaker 4: I'm not going any further north because I'm not going

795
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:42,799
Speaker 4: in the snow, never shoveling a driveway again.

796
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 3: Never. So that's why I'm a Floridian now.

797
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 2: So I guess I am a Utahn. Let me be,

798
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 2: let me let me. Just listen to what you say,

799
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:52,760
Speaker 2: like snowboard three to four times. In fact, it's snowing

800
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 2: and it's a powder day today, and you're that important

801
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 2: to me.

802
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 3: Okay, I just want you to As you hang up,

803
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 3: you can go go do.

804
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:07,319
Speaker 2: Your wife's right here, like what she's like here, put

805
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:12,839
Speaker 2: your goggles on, let's go. Yeah. See and that's a

806
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:16,359
Speaker 2: healthy relationship. See. What do you do to to wind down?

807
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:18,400
Speaker 2: Do you do you surf? Being in Florida? What is

808
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:20,719
Speaker 2: it that's helping you other than the museum? I know

809
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 2: you're curating.

810
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,360
Speaker 4: I wish I was coordinated enough to surf. My my

811
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 4: son is an excellent surfer. But uh, what I do

812
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 4: to Uh? I still have my same routine that I

813
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 4: did when in the sealed teams. I usually work out

814
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 4: every morning, something swimming or running. And I mean, being

815
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 4: in Florida, it's easy to do that because it's very

816
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 4: seldom that is bad.

817
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 3: Enough that you can't do that, right, So that's that's

818
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 3: what I usually do.

819
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 4: And then uh, and then working at the museum, voting

820
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 4: the mud m and uh and everything else that we

821
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 4: do keeps me, keeps me busy. And then opening the

822
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 4: new one in San Diego. That keeps me really busy,

823
00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 4: So it is on my toes.

824
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 2: Do you go to the VA? Are you using the

825
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 2: VA after service?

826
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 4: I haven't had a great experience with the VA, so

827
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 4: I try not. I try to avoid it when I

828
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 4: when I do.

829
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 2: Is it because they tell you what you don't want

830
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:15,400
Speaker 2: to hear, or is it because they don't get you

831
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 2: in for six months?

832
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, the ladder, you know, if they get you in,

833
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 4: they don't. There's communications, At least in my experience, the

834
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 4: communications is very poor. They'll set you up and with

835
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 4: an appointment and then you'll get a postcard in the

836
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:32,280
Speaker 4: mail saying your appointment that tomorrow, and you're like, well.

837
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 3: Hey, I got you know, I have my life, I

838
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:35,400
Speaker 3: have to work.

839
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 4: And you know, and then you try to call and

840
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,360
Speaker 4: there's no answer, and it's just, you know, it's just

841
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:42,919
Speaker 4: easier for me to not do it, to not see.

842
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,360
Speaker 3: I'm very fortunate that I don't have to depend on.

843
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,359
Speaker 2: It right right, And I keep trying to advocate for

844
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:51,760
Speaker 2: my younger guys to take care of themselves now because

845
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 2: when they're older, it's going to be harder for their

846
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 2: significant other to push them around the VA, you know,

847
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,880
Speaker 2: Like now, my mom pushed my dad into their sixties,

848
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 2: you know, and like he was just getting wheeled and

849
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 2: she was doing all of it and carrying the bags

850
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:07,880
Speaker 2: and taking him to his appointments. While I was growing

851
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:10,320
Speaker 2: my life as the son with a new wife and kids.

852
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 2: Mom was just taking dad. We didn't think twice. It's like, oh,

853
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:14,839
Speaker 2: mom's a dad at the VA, at the VA, at

854
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 2: the va, the VA. So I just wanted to find out,

855
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 2: you know, your thoughts on your experience go to the VA,

856
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 2: just so my listener can.

857
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:24,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I know, like I said, some people have

858
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 3: nothing but glowing reports.

859
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:27,720
Speaker 4: I just I didn't. I wasn't one of those guys.

860
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 4: And I, like I said, I'm fortunately I don't have to.

861
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 3: Exactly and I don't do it.

862
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 2: That's that's it. That's it. That's wanted to find out. Now,

863
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 2: what story do you want to tell me?

864
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 3: What story?

865
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 2: Yeah? I have frog Man stories, Okay.

866
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:48,240
Speaker 3: I'll tell you.

867
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:52,440
Speaker 4: You know, the while you're going through training, everybody has

868
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:55,799
Speaker 4: got a story, right, everybody's got a story. And if

869
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:58,439
Speaker 4: you didn't think about quitting while you're going through hell week,

870
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 4: you're not telling you truth, right. So I guess my

871
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 4: story on that was you know, it was a Wednesday night,

872
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:09,839
Speaker 4: you know, halfway through hell week. I feed you four

873
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 4: times a day. You know, you got to keep that

874
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 4: energy going because you're going all the time with very

875
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 4: little or no sleep for the week. And so that

876
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:19,400
Speaker 4: you go to the chow hall and they turn the

877
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 4: temperature up right, so it was probably you know, high

878
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:26,400
Speaker 4: eighties inside the chow hall, and you just gorge yourself

879
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 4: with as much food as you can and then they

880
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 4: tell you to have to go to sleep, right, So

881
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 4: within like minutes, everybody's every everyone's asleep, right. And then

882
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:39,239
Speaker 4: they come busted and of course you all and ask

883
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 4: you we told you not to go to sleep and now.

884
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:44,400
Speaker 3: You will pay the price for this, and blah blah blah.

885
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:47,360
Speaker 4: And at that moment, I thought to myself, what in

886
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 4: the world am I doing here?

887
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 3: You know, it's like what is going on?

888
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 4: And I kind of just followed with the group and

889
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 4: we got in line and they put us all in

890
00:41:56,719 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 4: the ocean, and it was cold out, and I think

891
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 4: that the jolt and the shock and the cold water woke.

892
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 3: Me up and really saved me.

893
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 4: So they saved me unintentionally that night by waking me

894
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:11,920
Speaker 4: up in the cold water.

895
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:14,279
Speaker 2: You're gonna take you?

896
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 3: Yeah? Warm, you know I woke up after that and

897
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:19,840
Speaker 3: never thought about it again.

898
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:23,319
Speaker 2: Wow that yeah, because like you said, everybody it goes

899
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 2: to their head, right, it's like, so what am I doing?

900
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:29,720
Speaker 3: Half exactly why this is not fun?

901
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:32,799
Speaker 2: But then it turned into fun? Can you tell us that?

902
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 3: You know? What? A lot of it?

903
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:38,800
Speaker 4: You know? And obviously when we tell stories the book,

904
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 4: it's mostly funny, happy stories, right, It's not bad stories

905
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 4: or shoot them up stories.

906
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:47,880
Speaker 3: It's just about funny things that happened to me throughout

907
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:49,799
Speaker 3: my career in the seal team.

908
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 4: So for the most part, you know, with with you

909
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:55,320
Speaker 4: and your buddies, it's fun, right.

910
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:59,320
Speaker 2: All you get to shoot, right, that's yeah?

911
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, all that's is really great.

912
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 4: Like I said, it comes out of price, and then

913
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 4: you pay the price, but then you keep having the fun.

914
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 2: You should have a shirt that says it comes at

915
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 2: a price. Rick says, it comes at a price. Everything,

916
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 2: everything comes at a price. I'm gonna I'm gonna keep

917
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 2: that I become better people when I interview better people,

918
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 2: it comes at a price, right.

919
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 4: Like married, for example, that's your wife, Oh yeah.

920
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:33,280
Speaker 2: Hundred percent. Oh jeez, we've been together twenty five years,

921
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 2: married twenty three so and now forty six. So that

922
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:38,799
Speaker 2: gives you an age. In Utah, we get young, dude.

923
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 2: We're like, if you're not a grandma by twenty five

924
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 2: year old, you know, it's like, yeah, we get married

925
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:48,319
Speaker 2: young here. Kids are young here, kids have kids young here. Yeah.

926
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 2: Like my mom was a grandma at thirty six. Yeah, right,

927
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:55,439
Speaker 2: and my brother was already nineteen, so it's clear, right,

928
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:58,279
Speaker 2: So just young families here. That's how it is.

929
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 3: You joined the Air Force, what well.

930
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 2: I grew up outside of Hill Air Force Base, and

931
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 2: so I would see, you know, my dad was stationed

932
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 2: here from California with the nineteenth Group. We left Cali,

933
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 2: came here in eighty three. He got stationed at Camp

934
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 2: Williams with the Green Berets in eighty one, and then

935
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 2: we finally showed up in eighty three during the Great

936
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:17,759
Speaker 2: Flood of Utah when it was all flooded. And then

937
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 2: I've just grown up with F sixteen's flying over. I

938
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:22,880
Speaker 2: literally lived under the flight path and we'd see like

939
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 2: the B one bomber with its swoop wings always taken

940
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 2: off and my dad would be like, I wonder where

941
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:30,719
Speaker 2: that gasoline dissipates too, you know. And I was like,

942
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 2: what do you mean? I didn't understand. But they were

943
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 2: trying to figure out why all the ladies in the

944
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 2: church ward were coming down with like multiple sclerosis, including

945
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:40,960
Speaker 2: my mom, And so they were trying to think if

946
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 2: it was something to do with like the fuel from

947
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 2: underneath the flight path for all our lives living underneath

948
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 2: there for so many years had just come down into

949
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 2: the breathing air. They're just trying to figure out why

950
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 2: a lot of ladies were getting MS in the ward,

951
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 2: different doctors. So, but yeah, blue beret man, it was

952
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:00,439
Speaker 2: the blue beret that taunted me. My dad worked one.

953
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 2: I was a young kid, young, dumb and full of

954
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 2: all the things they say, And uh yeah, I said,

955
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:06,920
Speaker 2: I wanted a blue one.

956
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 4: I have a good uh Air Force military police story.

957
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:14,799
Speaker 4: So we were in Herbert in Florida in the Panandle

958
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:19,840
Speaker 4: and we were doing some training out on out on

959
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 4: the base there, and nobody had ever told us about

960
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 4: you know, you have I don't know what they call it,

961
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:25,759
Speaker 4: but it's like we call it like the red line

962
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 4: of death that's throughout the line around these aircraft, like

963
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 4: if you cross over it all of a sudden, there's

964
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 4: like alert yeh, yes exactly.

965
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 3: So we were like all geared up, right.

966
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:38,799
Speaker 4: It was aulpus six of us and we were just

967
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 4: walking to the aircraft and we weren't paying attention.

968
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 3: We just was doing a.

969
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 4: Bee line to the aircraft that we were going to

970
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:48,360
Speaker 4: get on, and uh we crossed another line for another

971
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 4: aircraft and all of a sudden, everybody starts coming in

972
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:53,400
Speaker 4: and we had all our ship on us too, so

973
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:55,359
Speaker 4: we're like going, well, you know what's going on?

974
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 3: Right? All these guys are coming at us with guns.

975
00:45:57,760 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 3: We have guns, and it's like.

976
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 4: This stand up and then they start yelling as to

977
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 4: get outside the line.

978
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 3: Right, We're like, what about it was? We didn't you know,

979
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 3: we didn't see any damn line and we.

980
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:13,400
Speaker 4: Were finally, you know, everything settled down and then we

981
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:16,760
Speaker 4: got a lesson and air Force etiquette as far as

982
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:20,799
Speaker 4: don't cross this line. We're like, okay, we didn't even

983
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 4: know it was what it was, right, So anyway, that's

984
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 4: that's my Air Force security story, you.

985
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:29,400
Speaker 2: Know, that's it. That's it. Yeah, no, and uh, I

986
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 2: mean growing up military brat right outside of base, we

987
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:35,279
Speaker 2: skateboarded the base. It was always skating. It's like, this

988
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:37,319
Speaker 2: is my base, bro, you can't stop me. I have

989
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 2: an ID card, you know. And so they we'd be

990
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 2: skating in like some fuel dump where they have like

991
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 2: the pylons that go on the jets, you know that

992
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 2: they would feel fuel. But to us, it had like

993
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 2: this embankment area that we could just like come up

994
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 2: and do like a kick, flip or whatever on it.

995
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:55,880
Speaker 2: And it was just the best. Security forces rolls up like,

996
00:46:56,120 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 2: you guys can't be in here. We're like military IDs. Yeah, exactly.

997
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 2: You know, how do you stop Iron Eagle bro? You

998
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 2: know the kid lives on base man, you know.

999
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:11,320
Speaker 3: Exactly.

1000
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 2: Plus, my dad was Army, so there was one up

1001
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:16,440
Speaker 2: on that as an army kids. I was like, air Force,

1002
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 2: this is an army, I d you know.

1003
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 3: It's like exactly, I don't know any better.

1004
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 2: I don't know any better. And then the moment I

1005
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 2: joined and flew out on my first airplane was the

1006
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:28,400
Speaker 2: time I joined was the first time I flew on

1007
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 2: and United and they put a skate park at the base.

1008
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 2: I was like, what now that I'm leaving, now there's

1009
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 2: a skate park. I'm like, you guys, that's supposed to

1010
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 2: be done when we were skating it. So they put

1011
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:41,359
Speaker 2: a skate park at hill because of all of us

1012
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 2: skating everywhere. The parents were like, where's our kids supposed

1013
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 2: to skate?

1014
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:49,360
Speaker 4: Huh huh their kids.

1015
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 2: The power of killed power parents, Right.

1016
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:53,319
Speaker 3: That's right.

1017
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 4: I would have killed for a skate park for my son.

1018
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 4: You know, I ended up building a number of half bights, right, so.

1019
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:03,320
Speaker 3: You know, yes I do. Yes, a little skater, little

1020
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 3: skater freaks.

1021
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's us. You can't stop us. I'm gonna skate

1022
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:10,800
Speaker 2: your flight line. And the cool thing is they knew,

1023
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:13,239
Speaker 2: they probably knew. It's who we were. You know, we

1024
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 2: were always around just causing trouble on the on the base.

1025
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 2: That's us, either at the pool or skateboarding, or at

1026
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:21,200
Speaker 2: the movie theater, whatever it was, you know, just going

1027
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 2: up there. But those are good times. Love your dad always,

1028
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:27,440
Speaker 2: Thanks for the good times, you know, Yeah, exactly. And uh,

1029
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:29,799
Speaker 2: you know, did you have family that served as well?

1030
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 2: Did you mention that my father served.

1031
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:37,400
Speaker 4: He was in the Army Reserve and my uncle was

1032
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 4: an Army Air Corps fact World War Two later or not.

1033
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 3: He actually served at the Nuremberg.

1034
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:45,759
Speaker 4: Trials of all things, and then my other uncle was

1035
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 4: an Air Force guy, so yeah, there's an air Force

1036
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:50,920
Speaker 4: in the family. And that was it, and then you know,

1037
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:54,800
Speaker 4: the next couple of generations. I think I was probably

1038
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:57,880
Speaker 4: the only one that joined. To be honest with you,

1039
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 4: I don't I have to. That's a good question. I'd

1040
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:01,799
Speaker 4: have to think about it. But I think I am the.

1041
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 2: Only one any of your lineage take off to the service.

1042
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 4: No, no, I think they saw enough of the military.

1043
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:13,799
Speaker 4: My son said, Dad, No, not for me. I'm not

1044
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:14,359
Speaker 4: doing that.

1045
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:15,440
Speaker 3: I can't blame it.

1046
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:18,480
Speaker 4: We grew up his whole life, you know, around it,

1047
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 4: and it wasn't pleasant.

1048
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 3: And my daughter, she's just not made. That's it's not

1049
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:23,880
Speaker 3: her choice.

1050
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1051
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 3: Anyway, God bless them.

1052
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:29,359
Speaker 4: They're both successful, you know, citizens earning their own way.

1053
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 3: They're off the you know, dad's paycheck.

1054
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:35,480
Speaker 2: And they cut the cord. The biblical cord has been severed.

1055
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:40,800
Speaker 4: Yeah that was said a long time. But yeah, the money.

1056
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 4: You know, I always felt guilty and say.

1057
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 3: I'll pay for this. I'll say for that.

1058
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 4: And then finally they're like, you don't have to keep

1059
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 4: doing this, Dad, And I'm like, thank you.

1060
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 3: Is that success? Absolutely?

1061
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:54,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is, you know I'm the same way. I'm like, oh,

1062
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 2: I got this kid, Kid, I'm like, why can't you

1063
00:49:56,719 --> 00:49:58,719
Speaker 2: put five ten dollars in the gas tank? You use

1064
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 2: the car and they bring it back with a light on,

1065
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 2: and I'm like, kill it up. We got to break

1066
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:07,319
Speaker 2: that now. Okay, I got a ten bucks, Sydney. I

1067
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 2: know you're working hard as a hostess, dear, okay, at

1068
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:11,919
Speaker 2: a barbecue place, but just ten bucks in the tank

1069
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:13,839
Speaker 2: goes a long way with that. Okay, come on, now,

1070
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 2: at least two gallons at least, yeah, really, really, at

1071
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:22,439
Speaker 2: least two gallons, not yellow. I mean, you know, it's like, oh, hey,

1072
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:23,880
Speaker 2: you know, hook me up with twenty bucks and I'll

1073
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:28,400
Speaker 2: PayPal you back. I'm like, you have a job, but

1074
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 2: I'm a sucker for the for the girls, for the

1075
00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:32,320
Speaker 2: boy too. I got three.

1076
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:34,760
Speaker 3: Kids, oh of course, you know, of course.

1077
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:35,920
Speaker 2: And the wife.

1078
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 4: Kid's actually married a coastguard guy.

1079
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:43,239
Speaker 3: Oh and he's their station in Miami.

1080
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:46,239
Speaker 4: And then my son works up at Jacksonville, So there

1081
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:47,960
Speaker 4: are both ends of the state of Florida.

1082
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:50,879
Speaker 3: So it's like hours of driving each you know, right,

1083
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:52,399
Speaker 3: But at least we're.

1084
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:54,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's cool, that's cool. You guys, are all say,

1085
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:57,360
Speaker 2: I just interviewed your congressman rees maybe like within the

1086
00:50:57,440 --> 00:50:59,959
Speaker 2: last six months. He's also Green Beret.

1087
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:03,440
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, Brian Matt, Yeah.

1088
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:04,680
Speaker 2: I just interviewed him. I had him on and we

1089
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:05,359
Speaker 2: talked a little bit.

1090
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:10,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's actually our congressman for our museum district.

1091
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:12,719
Speaker 2: Oh is that right? Yeah? Really nice dude, I know

1092
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 2: very well. Yeah, really nice guy. Talked about Green Berets,

1093
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 2: you know, of course I did. Yes, can't help that conversation, bro,

1094
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 2: But you know, I have a friend who's a Green Beret,

1095
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:24,799
Speaker 2: and that's cool and all. But what's cooler is he

1096
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 2: played for West Point and so like the Green Beret.

1097
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:29,279
Speaker 2: I'm like, I've met him so many times. But you

1098
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:32,439
Speaker 2: played for West Point football, bro, you know, like there's

1099
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:35,799
Speaker 2: a thing. Yeah. So what's what's your plans? You have

1100
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 2: Frogman Stories Part two, three four? Thinking about what are

1101
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 2: you going to do?

1102
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 3: Oh? I haven't even thought about that.

1103
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:45,319
Speaker 4: My mind mission right now is to complete the San

1104
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:48,280
Speaker 4: Diego Museum, which is taking all my time and effort

1105
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:50,600
Speaker 4: because we got a lot of money to raise, We

1106
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:52,600
Speaker 4: got a lot of planning to do as far as

1107
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 4: what we're going to offer there, and then I have

1108
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:58,440
Speaker 4: to keep Fort Pierce, you know, at a.

1109
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 3: High standard for bilding there too.

1110
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:04,320
Speaker 4: We're developing a new building the host artifacts because the

1111
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 4: history of the Seals is not over right. So it's

1112
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 4: like we have to keep expanding and changing. Is that

1113
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 4: everything's still going right. It's not like a typical museum,

1114
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:18,879
Speaker 4: you know, like World War two, like from this time,

1115
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 4: this time the seals are from you know, nineteen forty

1116
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:24,320
Speaker 4: two till who knows.

1117
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:28,799
Speaker 3: So that's my job. That keeps me busy enough.

1118
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:30,720
Speaker 2: What can I do to help you and your mission?

1119
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 3: I think you've been promoting.

1120
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 4: Then Avco Museum tell people that are here in Florida

1121
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:38,319
Speaker 4: please come visit or just go visit the website. I

1122
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:40,120
Speaker 4: think we have a lot of great things on their

1123
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:44,839
Speaker 4: historical picture of archive from like I said, world War

1124
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:47,799
Speaker 4: two all in the way to the present days. We

1125
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 4: have a lot of things going around all over the country,

1126
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:52,920
Speaker 4: so we can't make it to Florida. We have things

1127
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:56,839
Speaker 4: in Colorado coming up, we have things in Texas, and.

1128
00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:59,799
Speaker 3: It's all on the web over yeah, all.

1129
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:01,400
Speaker 2: In and we will have that so that it's a

1130
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 2: hyperlink on the softwap dot com website and wherever we

1131
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:07,960
Speaker 2: post this up, my guy Anton producer, He'll make sure

1132
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 2: that that's all put in there so that you can

1133
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:11,399
Speaker 2: just click on it if you guys want to learn more,

1134
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:13,800
Speaker 2: or if you're listening and you just want to scroll

1135
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 2: over and just go check out the UDT Museum. It's

1136
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:19,880
Speaker 2: the Navy Seal Museum dot org. And uh, you know,

1137
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 2: retired Master Chief reminds me of Henry Rawlins. Rick bro

1138
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 2: so cool?

1139
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 3: Get my hair colored?

1140
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:31,239
Speaker 2: I guess a little bit, a little bit, a little bit.

1141
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 2: Now you're way cool man. I feel like some dogtown

1142
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:35,840
Speaker 2: z boy action coming from you. I know you're in Florida,

1143
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:38,719
Speaker 2: but I just get this like so cow vibe from you.

1144
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:41,840
Speaker 2: And and maybe it's the Wisconsin in you.

1145
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 3: Bro.

1146
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 2: I really appreciate you being on the show. Did you

1147
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 2: ever go to Manaswan? Did you ever go there?

1148
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:46,760
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1149
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:49,440
Speaker 2: Did you ever eat at a place called phil Rhors Burgers?

1150
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:51,920
Speaker 3: Oh? Oh that was.

1151
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:53,640
Speaker 2: My dad's cousins. He made like these little twenty five

1152
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:56,319
Speaker 2: cent hamburgers with smash and you buy like a bag

1153
00:53:56,360 --> 00:54:00,919
Speaker 2: of them. I just wondered, just giving him a shout out. No, well,

1154
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:04,960
Speaker 2: listen on behalf of Brandon Webb, my boss former sniper

1155
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:07,440
Speaker 2: instructor for the Sales Steal Team too. I think as

1156
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:08,920
Speaker 2: a matter of fact, he was a part of that.

1157
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:11,600
Speaker 2: I just want to say thanks for allowing me to

1158
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:14,560
Speaker 2: interview with you. You've been a wonderful guest, and I

1159
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 2: know there's so many stories that we can just open

1160
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:19,000
Speaker 2: cans of worms with, but I really am grateful for

1161
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:21,239
Speaker 2: your time today. I know you're super inundated with the

1162
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:24,480
Speaker 2: museum and getting that up and going, and your resolve

1163
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:28,200
Speaker 2: is just steadfast, and I'm happy you're in charge. So

1164
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:30,000
Speaker 2: thank you for taking the time to speak to me

1165
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:32,759
Speaker 2: and my guests and my listener and the viewers. And

1166
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:34,399
Speaker 2: you have a great face for TV.

1167
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:36,280
Speaker 3: Oh thank you.

1168
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:39,719
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, man, you give a good face. Paint on

1169
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:41,560
Speaker 2: right there and just like right back at it, dude,

1170
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 2: I love it. So do you have any thing to say?

1171
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:48,320
Speaker 3: No, I'm very appreciative. Thank you for your time.

1172
00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:51,200
Speaker 4: You know, get out there, come visit us at the museum,

1173
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 4: check us out on your website. And you know, one

1174
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:56,240
Speaker 4: thing I did fail to mention is we're building a

1175
00:54:56,280 --> 00:55:00,279
Speaker 4: monument in Normandy, France that'll be dedicated to end of

1176
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:04,440
Speaker 4: May in honor of the original frogmen that took out

1177
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:07,279
Speaker 4: the obstacles on the beaches in Normandy, and it's a

1178
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:10,839
Speaker 4: wonderful thing. A partnership with our friends in France and

1179
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:14,520
Speaker 4: obviously the family members of the that are still living

1180
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:17,359
Speaker 4: of the frogmen that did that, and d days. Because

1181
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:20,760
Speaker 4: it's the eightieth anniversary coming up, it's going to be wonderful.

1182
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:23,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, those beach had didn't clear themselves. Did they know

1183
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:28,080
Speaker 2: those Bengalores had to move up? Huh? Alpha one is

1184
00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:32,719
Speaker 2: not clear. Say again, alpha one is not clear. Hey

1185
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:35,520
Speaker 2: real quick before I wrap you up. Are their donations

1186
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:37,640
Speaker 2: being accepted to the museum to help it get in?

1187
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:41,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's all on the website. Everything's on the website.

1188
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:44,879
Speaker 4: We have everything from uh, we have think called tried

1189
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:48,640
Speaker 4: now that it's a respite house for for our vets

1190
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:51,239
Speaker 4: that want to come here and visit the Florida Museum

1191
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:54,080
Speaker 4: free of charge. We have a canine program where we

1192
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:57,360
Speaker 4: get dogs to you know, people that are struggling.

1193
00:55:57,880 --> 00:55:59,960
Speaker 3: We have big scholarship program.

1194
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:01,759
Speaker 4: Last year we gave out over a half a million

1195
00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:02,919
Speaker 4: dollars in scholarships.

1196
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:05,640
Speaker 3: So yes, and we have the mind me. We have

1197
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:09,200
Speaker 3: everything going on. It's it's it's great. It's keeping me busy.

1198
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:11,279
Speaker 2: Then we will we will blast it out on all

1199
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:13,719
Speaker 2: of our social media and this will go up. And

1200
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:16,120
Speaker 2: I'm really grateful to have you on the show and

1201
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:18,319
Speaker 2: again on behalf of brand new web. Everyone here a

1202
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:20,640
Speaker 2: soft rep and our merch store. Don't forget to go

1203
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:22,399
Speaker 2: shop the merch store because we need you to buy

1204
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 2: that stuff so I can keep the fireplace going. I

1205
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:28,280
Speaker 2: want to say thank you to Master Chief Rick Kaiser

1206
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:33,480
Speaker 2: and his awesomeness. Simple put it that way. Thank you, hey,

1207
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:35,920
Speaker 2: thanks for choosing to raise your hand and serve our

1208
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:38,120
Speaker 2: nation and do your job well. Miskar you are.

1209
00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:40,399
Speaker 3: Today and thank you very much.

1210
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:42,320
Speaker 2: And with that said, this is rad say and peace

1211
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:50,319
Speaker 1: Us been listening to self Reporadia