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Speaker 1: they hadn't seen him in person in six months, and

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Speaker 1: they got complaints that he may have been abusing his wife.

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Speaker 1: Never got around to check in on him in person. Oh,

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Speaker 1: we'll just have a hearing. Don't worry, non serious, non violent,

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Speaker 1: anything could happen. This is the danger we've run into

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Speaker 1: where we have this system where we think if we

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Speaker 1: release people from prison early, Oh, don't worry, the probation

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Speaker 1: department will watch after them and they'll be good citizens

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Speaker 1: a lot of mart. One of my themes today is

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Speaker 1: you have just increased the odds that someone's going to

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Speaker 1: get seriously hurt as you put more and more of

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Speaker 1: these dangerous people out there. And that's what happened to

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Speaker 1: these two Almani police officers. All right, more coming up

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Speaker 1: on the John and Ken Show on kf I am

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Speaker 1: six forty. All right, where's the vegan? Do anybody know

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Speaker 1: where the vegan is? I'm here? Oh hey, how are you?

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00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:53,440
Speaker 1: I'm well? Ken? How are you good? I've ever heard

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Speaker 1: of a company called Daily Harvest, I have not. It's

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Speaker 1: a popular vegan food company that chips directly to customers

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00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 1: and they have a product and I know you like

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Speaker 1: these lentils. I love lentils. How do you feel about leak?

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00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:16,639
Speaker 1: I love leaks. I like it leak. They have a

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Speaker 1: product called French Lentil plus Leak crumbles, and that's what

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Speaker 1: they shipped to people on their vegan food company and

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00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 1: had cost one woman or gallbladder. What yes, I was

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Speaker 1: waiting for that first, their silence, Then there's what yup?

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Speaker 1: At least four hundred and seventy people have reported getting

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Speaker 1: ill after consuming the crumbles. In fact, her attorney we've

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Speaker 1: had on the show. Ray you should probably get him

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Speaker 1: back on at some point. Bill Marler, I remember him.

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Speaker 1: He represents people that are get food poisoning from products.

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Speaker 1: He says he's now representing nearly a hundred people with

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Speaker 1: potential claims against this company. He says they're all relatively

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Speaker 1: healthy young people. All of them are having the same

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Speaker 1: symptoms and the same liver dysfunction and the same pain. Now,

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Speaker 1: a food safety expert says that the symptoms for this

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Speaker 1: are just not typical of what you see with your

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Speaker 1: traditional types of hazards in food. It's different. He claims,

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Speaker 1: this guy's at Penn State that this is something we've

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Speaker 1: never seen before. So the founder of the company, a

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Speaker 1: woman by the name of rachel Or Drury, said in

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Speaker 1: a statement they are aware of this. Clearly, we're working

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Speaker 1: with the FDA to try to figure it out. They

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00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 1: have done all sorts of testing. They cannot find so

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00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 1: far any common food borne pathogens, any toxins or allergens.

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Speaker 1: All the tests have come back negatives. All I know

476
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:50,359
Speaker 1: is if I get this product, if you get this

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00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:52,919
Speaker 1: product from this company, you better just not bother eating it.

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Speaker 1: Oh god, No, I don't even know what lential crumbles are.

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Speaker 1: I don't either. I guess it's just mushed up. I

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00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 1: think it's stride out right, and then they're into like

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Speaker 1: a little form that just kind of melt in your mouth,

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Speaker 1: like a little crumble snack. I take it, it's a snack.

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Speaker 1: And I don't think you poured as cereal lentils of

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Speaker 1: leak crumbles. You put it on a salad, I would imagine,

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Speaker 1: Oh you could do that. You're right, You're right. You

486
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Speaker 1: could use it as a little lad on on top

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Speaker 1: of some other dish. Despite consulting with numerous experts, cooperating

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Speaker 1: with the FDA's investigation, working with our supply chain. Conducting

489
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 1: extensive testing, we can't identify a cause. I would imagine

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Speaker 1: they've withdrawn the product. I would hope. So tests have

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Speaker 1: come back negative for Listeria E coli, Salmonella, staphylococcus, something

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Speaker 1: called clostridium species. Oh my god. The woman who first

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Speaker 1: date the crumbles on May seventh, she suffered severe abdominal

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Speaker 1: and gastrol and testinal distress as well as pain in

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Speaker 1: a right shoulder. So she goes to the hospital right

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Speaker 1: and they do tests scans, and they say, well, let

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Speaker 1: you know, we don't know. Well, I hate to tell

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Speaker 1: you this debor mark. But she went home and eat

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Speaker 1: the lentils again. What so she didn't know that's what

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Speaker 1: caused it. Oh god, I wouldn't have eaten anything that

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Speaker 1: I had before. I mean not a thing. I would

502
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Speaker 1: start from scratch. This is why you eat meat. She

503
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 1: experienced more abdominal and shoulder pain, went back to the hospital,

504
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 1: elevated liver enzymes, and they told her you got liver

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Speaker 1: and gallbladder dysfunction. We got to take it out. Oh

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Speaker 1: and they removed her damage gallbladder allow this because of lentils.

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Speaker 1: Vegan influencer Luke Wesley Pearson. Do you follow him? He's

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Speaker 1: a vegan influence. I don't. He shared a similar story,

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Speaker 1: saying he had to get his gallbladder removed after eating

510
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Speaker 1: the lentil product twice twice. What the hell's in there?

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Speaker 1: You tell me you eat lentils like every day. I do,

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Speaker 1: but not not the type that can's describing their their left.

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Speaker 1: This was a company crush. This is very specific. It's

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Speaker 1: made by Daily Harvest, and it's lentil plus leak crumbles

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Speaker 1: to somewhere specific. I don't want to damage the lentil industry. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: aren't they like peas or something. They're like legom legom

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Speaker 1: or I have lentil hermus, which I had today. I

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Speaker 1: buy lentils that are pre cooked and I mix them

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Speaker 1: with rice or I throw them, I don't know, in

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Speaker 1: a salad. Whatever they're they're great, great source of protein.

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Speaker 1: They talk to another health expert who said, actually, lentils

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Speaker 1: are usually good for the liver. We can't imagine why

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Speaker 1: this is happening. The company's testing for a wide range

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Speaker 1: of toxins what they call Michael toxins, including alpha toxins

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00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 1: or aphlatoxins, but everything so far is coming back negative.

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Speaker 1: They're flummoxed, but it's clear that this is what all

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Speaker 1: these people that are having gallbladder problems have in common.

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00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 1: They ain't the lentil crumbles, so there's definitely some connection,

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Speaker 1: whether it's something that happened when they package the product

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Speaker 1: or something before that. Daily Harvest has been around since

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Speaker 1: twenty fifteen, and it's like Blue Apron and Allow Fresh.

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00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 1: You know, they send you the product. And another woman

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00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 1: developed a headache and nausea and noticed her urine was

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Speaker 1: dark colored. Oh, her liver enzymes were really high. She's

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Speaker 1: waiting to learn more, but severely affected by this. And

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Speaker 1: by the way, you don't have to be a vegan

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Speaker 1: to enjoy lentils. I'm sure there are some, maybe not

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Speaker 1: you and eric meat eaters that like lentils. My mother

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Speaker 1: used to make lentil soup lent which is really kind

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Speaker 1: of Oh love lentil soup, thick green thing on the stove.

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Speaker 1: It was like it was like the extra system or

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Speaker 1: she vomits. Oh god, no, don't you remember that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I know, but that's what it looks like. Oh, I

544
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Speaker 1: don't know what kind of lentil soups she made. But

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Speaker 1: not the kind that I eat. No, I'm just so

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Speaker 1: special with my own vegan dissues. Yes you are, No,

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Speaker 1: you are? I am, Yes, I am all right. Coming

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