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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha and welcome to Stephane

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Speaker 1: Never Told You production of iHeart Radio, And.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to another edition of Happy Hour. And today we're

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Speaker 2: taking a small break because we're pretending like we have

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Speaker 2: seasons like as a thing along with Sex and the City,

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Speaker 2: because we ended season two with our lovely friend Lou

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Speaker 2: came on and did an amazing job.

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Speaker 3: Yes, noted it out of the park.

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Speaker 2: Yes, So we were taking a small break before we

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Speaker 2: jump back into the viewing party. And typically on my segments,

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Speaker 2: because this is my segment, I would have a drink

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Speaker 2: or something featuring women in the industry. Yeah, I'm me,

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Speaker 2: and I don't have that ready, even though I've got

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Speaker 2: some ideas. I was like, oh, because it's one of

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Speaker 2: those things where I have to go buy it and

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Speaker 2: then I have to divvy it out and then deliver

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Speaker 2: it to Annie because Annie does not believe in cars.

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Speaker 3: A terrible person.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, not at all. You care more about

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Speaker 2: the environment, I think than me. But all those things

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Speaker 2: that which makes perfect sense. I'm like, yeah, yeah, I

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Speaker 2: get it, I get it. But in this segment, I

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Speaker 2: decided I would do a check in. But before we

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Speaker 2: do all of that because Annie has no idea what

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Speaker 2: we're doing today, which she loves this. She loves so fun.

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Speaker 2: She's not like this at all. Uh, what are you

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Speaker 2: sipping on? Annie?

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Speaker 1: I am sipping on some leftover red wine, which is

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Speaker 1: great that perhaps I answers some questions you're going to

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Speaker 1: ask me. But I had some wine for both you

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Speaker 1: and I went to go see Barbie, yes this weekend separately,

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Speaker 1: and I had some wine for that and I did

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Speaker 1: not get anywhere close to finishing it.

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Speaker 3: So how old is that? That's a couple of days old? Now, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's fine.

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Speaker 2: Box is one of those small mini to go boxes time, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's fine of those. Yeah, there it is. I used

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Speaker 2: to pick those up for you to go together.

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Speaker 2: Yes. And just as a reminder right now, we're not

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Speaker 2: talking about anything that is sponsored for this episode. Something

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Speaker 2: comes up that'll be amazing. I don't know. It's all stuff.

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Speaker 2: We're going to talk about products, maybe we are whatever.

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Speaker 2: And if you are drinking or whatever you're doing in

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Speaker 2: this Happy Hour segment, do it responsibly, safely and to

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Speaker 2: your limits. You know your limits, you do, yeah, but

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Speaker 2: safely once again? And I am deciding yeah, because my

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Speaker 2: maybe I'm in denial. I am drinking a Seltzer Heart

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Speaker 2: Seltzer once again, pineapple my favorite, and decided, I think

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Speaker 3: I have some frozen pineapple. Maybe I could. Maybe it's

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Speaker 2: Oh, I would love that, you know, I would love that. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: let me know. But today say but I decided, we

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Speaker 2: which is how I kind of got into all this,

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Speaker 3: Oh? I'm I'm good.

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Speaker 1: I think I feel little overwhelmed by a lot of things,

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Speaker 1: like our book. I was kind of complaining to you

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Speaker 1: So when I get these questions I've gotten better at

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Speaker 3: Bad about it. So I'm dealing with that right now.

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Speaker 1: And I'm also dealing with this long known problem I've

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Speaker 3: Was like, that is my job, what I do.

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Speaker 2: So right, that's huge. That's been your job for like

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Speaker 2: ten years essentially, like you've been in this world. Yeah

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Speaker 2: over ten years. Yeah, which, well the way we didn't

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Speaker 1: So, oh my gosh, like real deep silly complaint. We

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Speaker 2: I have done really well from hiding from.

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Speaker 2: I have to say no members that I'm there until

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Speaker 2: Like I said, when I first started, it was right

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Speaker 2: I remember our original when I came in. The original

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Speaker 2: And talking about finances, talking about all these big things

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Speaker 2: about it with coming into talking conversations about recession. We

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