1 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 1: On this episode of news World. Inspired by true events, 2 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 1: the new film City of Dreams follows Hazers, a young 3 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:16,960 Speaker 1: Mexican boy whose dreams of becoming a soccer star are 4 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:20,799 Speaker 1: shattered when he's trafficked across the border and sold to 5 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:25,760 Speaker 1: a sweatshop making fast fashion in downtown Los Angeles. He 6 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: realizes that the only way to save himself and the 7 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 1: others is to fight back, even if it cost him 8 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 1: his life. City of Dreams is written and directed by 9 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 1: Mahit Ramchandani and produced by Roadside Attractions and is in 10 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:44,919 Speaker 1: theaters nationwide. Now Here to discuss the new film, I 11 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:48,519 Speaker 1: am really pleased to welcome my guest, former candidate for 12 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 1: president and a good friend, Vivek Ramaswami, who is an 13 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 1: executive producer on City of Dreams, and Sean Wolfington, the 14 00:00:56,320 --> 00:01:13,319 Speaker 1: producer today can Shawn welcome and thank you for joining me. 15 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 2: On newts World. 16 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you for having us. 17 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 1: Can you all briefly talk about why City of Dreams 18 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 1: was made, why Mohid wanted to tell this story. 19 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:26,479 Speaker 3: I'd be glad to kick off from my perspective, and 20 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:29,119 Speaker 3: it's been an honor to work with Moat and Sean 21 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 3: and the team here. My parents came to this country 22 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 3: from halfway around the world, from India as legal immigrants 23 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 3: to pursue the American dream. They came from a country 24 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:44,119 Speaker 3: where child slavery and forced child labor and child trafficking 25 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 3: was not unheard of. It was part of sadly a 26 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 3: norm in the nineteen seventies, nineteen eighties, nineteen nineties in 27 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 3: places like India and other parts of the Third World. 28 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 3: And yet the reality is now, in the year twenty 29 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 3: twenty four, that exists right here in the United States 30 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 3: of America. And to me, as somebody who ran for 31 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 3: US President, learned about this issue over the last year, 32 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:08,359 Speaker 3: I have to say I'm personally ashamed that I did 33 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 3: not know more about this at the time I declared 34 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:13,919 Speaker 3: for my candidacy about how big of a problem this 35 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,399 Speaker 3: is not in some other hemisphere, in some other century, 36 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 3: but right here at home, in our own homeland. And 37 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 3: at the same time, this is not a partisan issue. 38 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 3: And so much of your career, your illustrious career over decades, 39 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 3: but even my recent entry into politics is framed in 40 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 3: the context of Republicans versus Democrats, or left versus right. 41 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:37,359 Speaker 3: This is one of those issues where if we can't 42 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:40,959 Speaker 3: agree on the importance of ending child trafficking and ending 43 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 3: forced child labor in the United States of America, then 44 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 3: we're really screwed as a country. But the truth of 45 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 3: the matter is, I think most Americans do agree, and 46 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 3: that's why when you know I got in touch with 47 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 3: this group and was invited to become an executive producer, 48 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 3: it was an easy answer for me after seeing the movie. 49 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:59,640 Speaker 3: It's not a documentary, it's not some sort of lecture 50 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 3: of a movie. It's a thriller. I know I'm biased, 51 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 3: but I think it's by far the most entertaining and 52 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 3: engaging and thrilling movies of the year probably have been 53 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 3: produced in a very long time. And I do think 54 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 3: it's necessary to use the power of story and narrative, 55 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 3: not just education through facts and statistics, to motivate people 56 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 3: to act. And that's exactly what I believe we've done here. 57 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 2: Well. 58 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 1: Vic, the very fact, given everything you've done in business, 59 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 1: everything you've done in politics, the very fact you would 60 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 1: make this a major commitment, I think speaks a lot 61 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 1: about how important City of Dreams is. And Sean, you'd 62 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 1: also produce the Sound of Freedom, which also dealt with 63 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 1: child sex trafficking. What drew you to want to produce 64 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 1: City of Dreams, Well. 65 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 4: You know, both films talk about the fastest growing criminal 66 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 4: enterprise in the world. Right now, it's to one hundred 67 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 4: and fifty million dollar industry. It is quadruple since two 68 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 4: thousand and eight. I wasn't even aware it was happening. 69 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 4: But when I did become aware, how could I turn 70 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 4: my back on that ugly reality? And so the beauty 71 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 4: of movies is that they can move people, you know, 72 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 4: in a better direction. So we wanted to make a 73 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 4: movie that, yes, was entertaining and impactful, and like Vivec said, 74 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 4: it is a heroic thriller. 75 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 2: It will keep you on the edge of your seat. 76 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 4: So if you just want to be entertained, it is 77 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 4: definitely a popcorn movie, but it also has the power 78 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 4: to change and save people's lives. And I just don't 79 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:26,360 Speaker 4: see any thing that's more important use of my time, 80 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 4: you know. 81 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 2: And it was true with Center Freedom. 82 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:32,239 Speaker 4: Thanks to that movie, we've got twenty new laws around 83 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 4: the world protecting children. We've got tens of thousands of 84 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 4: children that we know are liberated because people saw the 85 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 4: movie took action and it's our hope a City of Dreams. 86 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 4: The same thing happens when people see this film and 87 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:47,040 Speaker 4: see how inspiring this young boy's story is, how courageous 88 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 4: he is against all odds to fight back against his captors. 89 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 2: Hopefully that will inspire others. 90 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 4: You and all of us to join that fight for 91 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:57,919 Speaker 4: the freedom of these twelve million children who are victims 92 00:04:57,920 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 4: of modern day slavery today. 93 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 1: It's doubly interesting to maybe because, as you know, because 94 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 1: you lived it, the Sound of Freedom had a long 95 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 1: process of finally breaking through and getting out to the public, 96 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:13,040 Speaker 1: and then it took off and it became really an 97 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 1: extraordinarily important film. Do you think that City of Dreams 98 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 1: may have a similar pattern of really breaking through and 99 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:21,039 Speaker 1: help change opinion? 100 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:23,479 Speaker 2: Well, you know it already has. 101 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 4: I mean, what's really humbling for us is that you've 102 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 4: got world leaders, first of all, like Vivek, like Tony Robbins, 103 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 4: like Sylvester Stillaw, like Mike Tyson, Mira Sorvina, who was 104 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:36,479 Speaker 4: involved in Center Freedom also an executive producer of City 105 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 4: of Dreams. 106 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 2: You've got an army of leaders. 107 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:42,040 Speaker 4: Who are lending their voice to these twelve million children 108 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 4: who don't have it, and that's already had an impact. 109 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 2: It helped raise awareness. 110 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 4: But certainly, for sure the second weekend, the third weekend 111 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:51,839 Speaker 4: of Center Freedom was bigger than the first, and we 112 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:54,480 Speaker 4: hope and expect City of Dreams will be the same. 113 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:58,600 Speaker 1: This film is a movie, but at the same time 114 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 1: it's almost a documentary. Can you just share with us 115 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:05,280 Speaker 1: the scale of modern slavery around the world. I think 116 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 1: it's breathtaking and one of the great tragedies of our time. 117 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's twelve million people living in slavery around the world. 118 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 3: And I know that's a surprise to many people who 119 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 3: might be listening to this conversation. Nude is we thought 120 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 3: slavery was abolished in the United States in the eighteen sixties. Well, 121 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 3: I think one of the things in realities we wake 122 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 3: up to and this is a consequence of failed southern 123 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 3: border policies, no doubt about it. There's no way to 124 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 3: talk around that issue. This is a direct consequence of 125 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 3: the travesty of the US southern border that there are 126 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 3: now children living in slavery in the United States of America. 127 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 3: When I say slavery, you'll see it when you watch 128 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 3: this movie. I mean conditions that shock the conscience somebody 129 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:49,600 Speaker 3: who has beaten, physically tortured, held beyond their will, recaptured 130 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 3: even upon escaping. These are the kinds of stories that 131 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:55,359 Speaker 3: you would imagine existing in some other century, in some 132 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 3: other hemisphere, but not right here in modern twenty first 133 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:03,600 Speaker 3: century America. That being said, twelve million is a statistic, 134 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:06,719 Speaker 3: but I think that statistics don't move people in the 135 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 3: way that a movie does. I think one of the 136 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 3: beauties of this film Newt is it exposes a reality 137 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 3: but without being a documentary. Right. It takes this per 138 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 3: certain kind of person and a certain type of patience 139 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 3: to say I'm going to dedicate part of my evening 140 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 3: to learn about an issue that I didn't know about. 141 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 3: I'm going to watch a documentary. It's another to say that, 142 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 3: you know what, I'm going to watch a thriller and 143 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 3: probably the most thrilling movie I've seen in a year. 144 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 3: And this movie actually is the latter that accomplishes the 145 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 3: goals of an activist campaign that otherwise probably couldn't reach 146 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 3: the number of people were going to reach that we 147 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 3: already are reaching through a film that' says compelling and 148 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 3: entertaining and keeps you at the edge of your seat. 149 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 3: I think very few people are going to make it 150 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 3: to the end of this movie without being in tears 151 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 3: for just this young boy's story alone. And then you 152 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 3: take a step back after the movie and reflect on 153 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 3: the fact that Hezus's story was not just some anomaly. 154 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 3: It's a more normalized story in America. Probably a lot 155 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 3: of people who listen to folks like you and me 156 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 3: may have similar persuasions right of center or independent minded folks. 157 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 3: But I almost encourage you, if you haven't watched a 158 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 3: movie with the left of center friend or family member 159 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 3: in a long time, make this the one that you 160 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 3: actually do, because you'll find common cause at the end 161 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 3: of it and at the same time find a way 162 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 3: to be brought together ahead of what is no doubt 163 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 3: we're in a divisive moment in our country, polarized election. 164 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:33,560 Speaker 3: It's one way to maybe find a sanctuary on an 165 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 3: issue that's important, that relates to the border, that relates 166 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 3: to clear and present issues for us, but at the 167 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 3: same time can bring you together with friends and family 168 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 3: members that you might not otherwise want to talk politics 169 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 3: or watch the presidential debate with. Watch this movie instead. 170 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 3: And I think this is a great week to do it. 171 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:53,079 Speaker 3: As we mentioned before, Sean mentioned this weekend one was 172 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 3: Labor Day weekend. It was in honor of child forced 173 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 3: labor that we picked Labor Day as the launch weekend. 174 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 3: But having a blockbuster Labor Day weekend out at a gate, 175 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 3: we now want to actually make sure that the second 176 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 3: and third week, as you saw with movies like Sound 177 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 3: of Freedom, really bring this into the public consciousness at 178 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 3: an even bigger scale. And I think people who are 179 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 3: head of the curve can help start that conversation. So 180 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:18,200 Speaker 3: this is a great week to do it. And you know, 181 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 3: as much as I actually really did love the Sound 182 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 3: of Freedom, I thought it was an excellent movie, and 183 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:24,199 Speaker 3: kudos to Sean and everyone else who was involved in that, 184 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 3: I just think as a film this exceeds even the 185 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 3: high bar set by Sound of Freedom by quite a 186 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 3: bit in terms of its capacity to draw people in 187 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 3: and the pace by which the movie moves. And so 188 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 3: I think it's a great opportunity this week, in the 189 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:39,559 Speaker 3: second week, to hit this out of the park. 190 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 1: I remember when Speaker McCarthy invited close to me to 191 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: come to the Capitol and you showed the Sound of 192 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 1: Freedom to a lot of Congressmen, and I think it 193 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 1: had a real impact. Have you had an opportunity to 194 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 1: take City of Dreams to Capitol Hill and to make 195 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 1: an opportunity for elected members to see firsthand how big 196 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 1: of an issue that should be and how much attention 197 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 1: they should pay to it. 198 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:26,439 Speaker 4: Great question. We did have a screening schedule for September ninth. Unfortunately, 199 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 4: the organization Hope on the Hill that coordinated it, the 200 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:34,559 Speaker 4: founder unfortunately perish in a plane accident. Nathan Kessler, a 201 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 4: beautiful human being, dedicated his life to bring a Hope 202 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 4: to the Hill. 203 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 2: So we're rescheduling that. 204 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 4: BEVEC is helping us coordinate a date that fits everyone's schedule, 205 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 4: but we would like to. 206 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 2: Get it in front of wallmakers because it's the. 207 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 4: One issue where Democrats and Republicans can agree. It's not left, 208 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 4: it's not right, it's right in the center of what 209 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:56,559 Speaker 4: matters to every decent human, which is protecting the innocence 210 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:59,319 Speaker 4: of our kids. And it's our hope that yes, we 211 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 4: leverage policy, but in this day and age, politics to 212 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 4: vibes and art unites, and that's the power of this 213 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 4: film is that everyone can agree that whether it's a 214 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 4: child of a democratic Republican, all children should be protected 215 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 4: from this unthinkable horror. 216 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 2: When you research how. 217 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 4: Legal slavery ended in America, there are clues for what 218 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 4: we can do to prevent and protect and save children today. 219 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 4: According to a lot of historians, it wasn't Lincoln necessarily 220 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:28,680 Speaker 4: who was the primary driver of. 221 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 2: The Civil War. 222 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 4: Lincoln himself gave credit to Tarad P. Tristowe, who wrote 223 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 4: a book called Uncle Tom's Cabin, which exposed the horrors 224 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:40,080 Speaker 4: of legal slavery in that era. Millions read it, they 225 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 4: rose up, and they demanded change. 226 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 2: For their politicians. 227 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 4: And it's our hope to do the same with City 228 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 4: of Dreams, so that people can get these statistics out 229 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 4: of their head and into their heart. Because when you 230 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 4: don't see it, you don't feel it. When you don't 231 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 4: feel it, people don't act. But when people leave the 232 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:57,199 Speaker 4: theater after seeing this movie, you know they're on fire. 233 00:11:57,559 --> 00:11:59,439 Speaker 4: They want to do whatever they can do. They may 234 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 4: not be a right so they're not going to write 235 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 4: Uncle Tom's Cabin. They may not have a show like 236 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:04,439 Speaker 4: You Knew It or platform. 237 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 2: Like you Viveca. 238 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 4: Everybody can do something, and it's our hope that they 239 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 4: can go to cityodreamsmovie dot com. We've created a battle 240 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 4: plan for anyone who wants to join this fight, ten 241 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 4: practical steps they can take to help raise awareness about 242 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 4: this critical cause. 243 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 2: And also we partnered with A twenty one. 244 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 4: They're one of the largest anti trafficking organizations. 245 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:23,320 Speaker 2: In the world. 246 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:27,319 Speaker 4: They've prepared a resource section to help families protect themselves 247 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:30,199 Speaker 4: but also look out for children that don't have families 248 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 4: to look out for them. 249 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 1: It's staggering how big an industry it is and how 250 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 1: many human beings have their lives dramatically crippled by this experience. 251 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:44,959 Speaker 1: The impact of fiction with Harriet Beecher Snow Who's Uncle 252 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 1: Tom's Cabin, became the second most widely read book in 253 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:51,320 Speaker 1: the Nited States after the Bible. When Lincoln met her, 254 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 1: he said, you're the little lady that started the Civil War. 255 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 1: It became translated into a play. It's sort of made 256 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:03,439 Speaker 1: vivid for the North just how bad slavery was and 257 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 1: it played a major role. And I think in that sense, 258 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 1: City of Dreams is sort of a twenty first century 259 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 1: version of that kind of novel. What do you think 260 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 1: of the three or four major things that should be 261 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:17,960 Speaker 1: done to stop human trafficking. 262 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:20,680 Speaker 3: So look, I think that there's the supply and there's 263 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 3: the demand. So as a business guy, I look at 264 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 3: both of them. On the supply side, Fixing the crisis 265 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 3: at the southern border is the number one and simplest 266 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 3: thing that we can do. One of the things that 267 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 3: we often see in the debate about the border is 268 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 3: that we often frame it and discuss it for good reasons. Right, 269 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 3: looking at this through the lens of the American citizens 270 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 3: who are already here, and how many Americans who live 271 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 3: in the United States or citizens of this country are 272 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 3: harmed by the border crisis for people who illegally cross 273 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:50,200 Speaker 3: the border. But what this movie does, and this issue 274 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 3: of human trafficking, as you study it, what it does 275 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 3: is it shows you that it's not just cruel to 276 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 3: many of the people who already here, it is in 277 00:13:57,760 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 3: many cases cruel to the people who are being tried 278 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 3: affect across the border as well. It's not compassion to 279 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:05,200 Speaker 3: those people. That is cruelty. And it is really the 280 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 3: cartels that are the ultimate beneficiaries of it. So what 281 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 3: does that mean. It means completing the southern border wall, 282 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:13,679 Speaker 3: It means putting aquatic barriers in the Rio Grande, it 283 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:16,680 Speaker 3: means actually even using our own national guard and military 284 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 3: resources to have a secure border to a country that 285 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 3: is compassionate not just to the citizens here, but to 286 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 3: the people who are exploited across that border. And I 287 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 3: think that's on the supply side, an easy way to 288 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 3: deal with this and score a big win. The hard reality, though, 289 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 3: is there's a demand side to this issue as well. 290 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 3: Whether you're thinking about the issue of sex slavery like 291 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 3: you saw explored in movies like The Sound of Freedom, 292 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 3: or you see the broader issue of forced labor at 293 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 3: issue here in City of Dreams, this is something that 294 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 3: needs to be addressed right here at home as well. 295 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 3: It is illegal to hire or forcibly higher underage workers 296 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 3: into your workplace, and they house them under conditions that 297 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 3: say what you will about free adults being free to decide. 298 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 3: Children are not able to be forced and we should 299 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 3: not allow them to be forced to be working under 300 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 3: these conditions. And so in many cases there it's just 301 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 3: enforcing the laws that are already on the books that 302 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 3: are failed to being enforced today, I think in part 303 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 3: owing to corruption, and the movie does a great job 304 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 3: of this of delicately, but boldly and fearlessly putting a 305 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 3: spotlight on some of those nodes of corruption that account 306 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 3: for how those laws aren't exactly being enforced well today. 307 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 3: So I'd say addressed the supply side, we could do 308 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 3: that relatively immediately. All it does is take the will 309 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 3: of the politicians we're in charge. And then on the 310 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 3: demand side, I think that's actually going to be driven 311 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 3: by bottom up awareness. I don't think people at the 312 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 3: state level or at the federal level are going to 313 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 3: be able to get away with this anymore if we 314 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 3: have a Hereet Beecher Stowe moment to fight this new 315 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 3: form of slavery in America. And we often use the expression, 316 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 3: I think it's true politics is downstream of culture. But 317 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 3: even when you talk about showing this movie in Washington, DC, 318 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 3: that's going to happen at some point this fall. But 319 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:00,040 Speaker 3: in some ways it's better for that to happen and 320 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 3: after there's a bottom up cultural uprising and a cultural 321 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 3: call to action from people who are just as everyday 322 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 3: citizens moved in their hearts by seeing this movie in 323 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 3: the movie theater and beginning to talk about in a 324 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 3: bottom up way. That's actually what drives the kind of 325 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 3: political and policy change we need in the country. Rarely 326 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 3: is it top down. The way we're going to drive 327 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 3: change on this issue included is bottom up, and that's 328 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 3: why I think it'll be helpful for everyone to see 329 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 3: this movie. 330 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 1: What sort of pushback have you gotten so far from 331 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 1: people who say, Oh, it's not really true, or it's exaggerated, 332 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 1: or it's not that big an issue. I mean, do 333 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 1: you get much pushback? 334 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 2: I'll jump here quick. 335 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 4: You know, a Sound of Freedom, an investigative reporter did 336 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:08,159 Speaker 4: research about the first article that claim that Sound of 337 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:11,199 Speaker 4: Freedom was a conspiracy and that was exaggerating the facts, 338 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 4: and trafficking wasn't that. 339 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:15,199 Speaker 2: Big of a deal, and claims of QAnon and all 340 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:16,160 Speaker 2: sorts of craziness. 341 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:20,440 Speaker 4: It turns out that that writer is a pedophile activist 342 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:23,639 Speaker 4: who's been trying to promote pedophilia, normalized pedophilia, and a 343 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:26,360 Speaker 4: concept called maps, which is minor attractive persons. 344 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 2: Unbelievable. 345 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 4: But what happened with Center Freedom is same thing happening 346 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:32,880 Speaker 4: in State of Dreams. The mainstream media just didn't cover 347 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 4: the movie, you know, outside of some conservative media and 348 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 4: Hispanic media did because Latino children are the biggest victims 349 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 4: of child trafficking in America, and one of the biggest 350 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 4: challenges we've had is not the support from leaders. Because 351 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 4: we've got celebrities and influencers that in aggregate reach over 352 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:52,719 Speaker 4: three hundred million consumers. The reports that we're getting this 353 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 4: week from different celebrities is that what they're posting online 354 00:17:57,280 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 4: to help raise awareness about this plague in America are 355 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 4: not reaching their followers. 356 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:04,920 Speaker 2: You know, to give you an idea, one of. 357 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 4: The celebrities posts only reached one percent of the followers 358 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 4: that one of our average posts in the last twenty 359 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 4: posts reached one percent, So that means, you know, one 360 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 4: hundred times more exposure for any content that is it 361 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:24,880 Speaker 4: part of the biggest anti trafficking campaign in the world 362 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 4: right now. Two other celebrities had only twelve percent and 363 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 4: thirteen percent of the exposure compared to the previous twenty posts. 364 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 4: So I think that the challenge here is that Instagram 365 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 4: and Facebook were thrown by mena They've got algorithms. 366 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:40,920 Speaker 2: That are designed to protect children from child trafficking. 367 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 4: Ever since the article from the Wall Street Journal came 368 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:46,120 Speaker 4: out that highlighted the fact that they were connecting more 369 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:50,359 Speaker 4: children with pedophiles than anyone now being from technology. I 370 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:52,160 Speaker 4: chalk that up to the fact that they're the most 371 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 4: scaled platform, right, so obviously they're going to have the 372 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 4: most of anything. So I think they're now trying to 373 00:18:57,320 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 4: combat that, but inadvertently they're now censoring, indirectly the voice 374 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:04,400 Speaker 4: of a lot of celebrities who are trying to fight 375 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 4: for these innocent kids. 376 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 2: So it's my hope if there's anyone watching the show 377 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:08,640 Speaker 2: that works with. 378 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:12,199 Speaker 4: Meta, that they will quickly speak with their teams and 379 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 4: do the opposite and amplify the voices of these leaders 380 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:18,159 Speaker 4: who are lending their voice to the twelve million children 381 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 4: who don't have one today. 382 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 1: I've never quite thought about your point that if you 383 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 1: build algorithms to protect children from certain things, the key 384 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 1: code words could easily un block the positive message because 385 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 1: the algorithm's just playing off the words, it's not playing 386 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:37,399 Speaker 1: off the intent. 387 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 2: And there's a lot of people. 388 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 4: On the Internet claiming that, you know, Instagram and Mark 389 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 4: Zuckerberg are. 390 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 2: Doing this intentionally. There's no way in the world. 391 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 4: These are people that are trying to combat traffic in 392 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:49,959 Speaker 4: the way we are. But they've got to update their 393 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 4: algorithm to make sure that the voices that are fighting 394 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:54,880 Speaker 4: for these kids' freedom are amplified and not limited. 395 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:57,440 Speaker 3: And one thing I would say is the way these 396 00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:00,200 Speaker 3: algorithms work is, in some ways they're a product. They're 397 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 3: very decentralized at times, their product of what they're fed, right, 398 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:05,719 Speaker 3: they what they're fed. The people that train them are 399 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 3: not one person, but an entire culture of these institutions 400 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:11,159 Speaker 3: that have been built for a very long time. And 401 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:14,639 Speaker 3: I think that reveals an unfortunate fact about this. I 402 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 3: think Sean is very intent on this. I'm very intent 403 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:19,440 Speaker 3: on this to make sure this movie is not partisan politicized. 404 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:22,200 Speaker 3: But I think that should also not stop us from 405 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:25,680 Speaker 3: speaking some hard truths here, which is that, for whatever 406 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:30,160 Speaker 3: reason it has become I think in some corners of 407 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:33,399 Speaker 3: the modern American left, a way of not denying the 408 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 3: importance of this issue, but dismissing how big of a 409 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:39,679 Speaker 3: problem it actually is. One of the things that we 410 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:42,160 Speaker 3: would love, and would have loved and still would love 411 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 3: is to have somebody, let's say, have run for Republican 412 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:47,880 Speaker 3: nomination for US president right came out among the top 413 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 3: contenders last year. Was their counterpart, who has done something 414 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 3: similar on the Democratic side to also come aboard and 415 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 3: at least become an ambassador or an equivalent involved member 416 00:20:57,880 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 3: in this film. And I can tell you it's not 417 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 3: for life of trying. On my partner, Shan's part, I 418 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 3: open up a little bit, lift the curtain, right. A 419 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 3: lot of good people would say, well, absolutely, I'm all 420 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:08,680 Speaker 3: in on this issue, but when push came to show, 421 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 3: there was a reluctance to actually get involved with it. 422 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 3: And the reason why, I think is there is a 423 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 3: hesitance to say anything that might have a negative read 424 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 3: on the current border policies or the current policies that 425 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:26,920 Speaker 3: have led to this. And that's just a hard truth, right. 426 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:29,920 Speaker 3: You know Moe Ramchinani, who is the director of the movie, 427 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 3: he and I have become great friends through this. He 428 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:33,679 Speaker 3: often jokes he's a Democrat, I'm a Republican, but we 429 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:36,439 Speaker 3: both agree on this issue. But for whatever reason, the 430 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:41,400 Speaker 3: political landscape has made this one of these relatively untouchable issues, 431 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 3: one of these issues outside of the Overton Window, one 432 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 3: of these issues you're not supposed to talk about in 433 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 3: Polite Company. And I think that's one of the things 434 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:51,440 Speaker 3: this movie will do, it's already doing, is it's going 435 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 3: to mainstream the issue to say that now you can't 436 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:56,159 Speaker 3: hide from this issue anymore of child trafficking in the 437 00:21:56,240 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 3: United States. Once you see it, you can't unsee it. 438 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:02,479 Speaker 3: But that's the first step, is you have to see it. 439 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:05,200 Speaker 3: And putting it in a visual format like a movie, 440 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:09,159 Speaker 3: as opposed to a textual statistic in a newspaper page, 441 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 3: forces you to see it. 442 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 2: Right. 443 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 3: Once you see this movie, you really you're not going 444 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:16,359 Speaker 3: to forget some of the scenes in this movie. I 445 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:17,880 Speaker 3: think it's one of the movies that's going to stay 446 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:20,159 Speaker 3: with you for a long time to come. That's why 447 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:22,440 Speaker 3: I said, you know, invite your left leaning friends over 448 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:26,359 Speaker 3: because I think that helps take this outside of the 449 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 3: bounds of the Overton window and say no, no, no, we're 450 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 3: open to talking about this issue. We're not sleeping it 451 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:35,359 Speaker 3: under the rug anymore. And as you well know, I 452 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 3: know you believe this too. That's how we save our country, 453 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 3: all of us starting to speak openly again in a 454 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 3: way that's unconstrained and without fear. And I hope that's 455 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:45,160 Speaker 3: what this does on the issue of child trafficking. 456 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 4: We sent a direct invitation to every living president, President Carter, 457 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 4: President Clinton, Obama, Biden and Trump. We did that set 458 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 4: of Freedom, and we also did it with City of Dreams. 459 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 4: Trump took us up on the invitation. We screened it 460 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:01,640 Speaker 4: for him at his country club. Leaders and this invitation 461 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 4: still is out there for every leader in the. 462 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:06,400 Speaker 2: Senate, every governor. 463 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 4: We would like to contribute and donate as screening so 464 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:11,359 Speaker 4: that you can screen this film for the leaders that 465 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:14,919 Speaker 4: you serve in your community and rally the supports we 466 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,640 Speaker 4: can actually enact some change to protect and save these 467 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:18,359 Speaker 4: innocent kids. 468 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 1: Ken churches and other institutions find a way to screen 469 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 1: this and if so, who would they contact. 470 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:30,119 Speaker 4: If you go to cityodreamsmovie dot com, people can sign 471 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 4: up to host a private screening and very easy, within 472 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 4: one minute, they can fill out a form and most 473 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 4: of the work will be done for them. All they 474 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:40,399 Speaker 4: have to do is pay for the seats. It's as 475 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:42,639 Speaker 4: little as five hundred dollars depending on how big the 476 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,440 Speaker 4: theater is, and the theater chains will do the rest. 477 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 4: In addition, they can, if they want, they can buy 478 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 4: tickets on City of Dreams movie. 479 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 2: And there's also a battle plan as I had mentioned. 480 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:55,359 Speaker 4: If they want, they can take up to ten different 481 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 4: actions to raise awareness about the movie and it's mission 482 00:23:58,000 --> 00:23:59,120 Speaker 4: to combat chand trafficking. 483 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 1: Are there any specific anti traffic organizations that you encountered 484 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 1: while making the film that you would recommend for people 485 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,199 Speaker 1: to contact if they want to become active. 486 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 4: Well, you know A twenty one and we've worked with 487 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 4: a lot of anti trafficking organizations. We offered to donate 488 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 4: free private screenings for all of them for their own employees, 489 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 4: the survivors they serve. 490 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:25,639 Speaker 2: And their donors as a fundraiser. 491 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 4: But A twenty one is an international anti trafficking organization 492 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:33,680 Speaker 4: has done an incredible job serving the community, helping survivors, 493 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 4: but also raising awareness and working with other organizations. And 494 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 4: they've actually built out a whole resource section on cityofjamesmovie 495 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 4: dot com and there's a link to their website where 496 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:45,159 Speaker 4: there's additional resources as well. 497 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:48,640 Speaker 1: Sean, I have to ask you, given these two films 498 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 1: and the impact you're personally having, do you have a 499 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:52,360 Speaker 1: big project coming up? 500 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:54,400 Speaker 2: We've got a lot of projects. 501 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:56,879 Speaker 4: You and your daughter were part of our first movie 502 00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 4: called Pella, so inadvertently you've been helping with movies for 503 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:02,880 Speaker 4: a long time. To thank you for that, and our 504 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,880 Speaker 4: next big project is called The Prince. It's a film 505 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 4: written by David Mammott. It's starring Scott Hayes, who is 506 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 4: in the Horizon Films with Kevin Costner, as well as 507 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:18,639 Speaker 4: Nicholas Cage, JK. Simmons, Gian Carlo Esposito. Another thriller, more 508 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 4: of a fun, spirited kind of black comedy that is 509 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,399 Speaker 4: a parody about American politics and the media. 510 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,920 Speaker 2: More to come on that. We're keeping it under the 511 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:29,680 Speaker 2: radar for now. 512 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 4: It's exciting and I'll reach out to you when it's 513 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 4: finished so that we can do a screening for you 514 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 4: and your family. 515 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 1: We want to have you back when you launch it. 516 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:40,199 Speaker 1: And of course, and de Vic, I don't want to 517 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,160 Speaker 1: in any way take you away from the campaign. Trill. 518 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:46,200 Speaker 1: I watch you on TV regularly and I realize how 519 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 1: much you're doing and this is such an extraordinarily important election. 520 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 1: But at the same time, I know you're so creative. 521 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 1: Do you have any particular projects you'd like to share 522 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 1: with us? 523 00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 3: Well, I do have a book coming out the latter 524 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:03,399 Speaker 3: part of Thember. It's called Truths the Future of America First, 525 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:05,879 Speaker 3: and one of the issues I do address in the 526 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,359 Speaker 3: book actually overlaps with the theme of the movie, which 527 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:11,640 Speaker 3: is the truth that an open border is not a border. 528 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,359 Speaker 3: It's one of ten hard truths that I explore in 529 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 3: this book. And you know, I think one of the things, 530 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,199 Speaker 3: you know, just wearing my different hat right now is 531 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:21,880 Speaker 3: as conservatives, I think the way we're going to win 532 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:23,920 Speaker 3: for the country, not just win an election, but win 533 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 3: for the country isn't just by identifying what we're against. 534 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 3: But the question is what do we actually stand for? 535 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 3: And the premise of this book is we stand for truth. 536 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 3: And so that book comes out on the week of 537 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:41,120 Speaker 3: September twenty third, and people hopefully are able to open 538 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,679 Speaker 3: their eyes to some hard truths that are uncomfortable at 539 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:47,680 Speaker 3: times to confront. But that's my next major project after 540 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 3: this movie, is the release of that book later this month. 541 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 1: I'm going to take advantage of those opportunities to go 542 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 1: ahead and tell you we will contact your public system 543 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 1: once the book comes out. I'd love to have you 544 00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 1: as our guests for a podcast about your new book. 545 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,200 Speaker 3: I'll get you an advanced copy too, newt and people 546 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 3: can need a pre order it now as well. But 547 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:07,679 Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to sharing those ideas. So let's do 548 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:09,359 Speaker 3: it great well. 549 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 1: Vivek and Sean. I want to thank you for joining me. 550 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 1: This has been a great conversation. Your film City of 551 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 1: Dreams is stunning. It's in theaters everywhere right now. Our 552 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 1: listeners can go to cityofdreamsmovie dot com to find out 553 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:26,639 Speaker 1: more details. 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