WEBVTT - Always Be My Maybe with Keah Brown 0:00:00.960 --> 0:00:02.080 On the Bechdelcast. 0:00:02.240 --> 0:00:05.720 The questions asked if movies have women and them, are 0:00:05.800 --> 0:00:08.399 all their discussions just boyfriends and husbands or do they 0:00:08.440 --> 0:00:13.680 have individualism? It's the patriarchy, zeph and best start changing 0:00:13.960 --> 0:00:16.000 with the Bechdel Cast. 0:00:16.280 --> 0:00:20.320 Hello Bechdel Cast listeners, Hello Jamie and Caitlin. 0:00:20.400 --> 0:00:22.280 Here a little plug at the top. 0:00:22.400 --> 0:00:25.880 It's all coming together, it's all happening. I am going 0:00:25.920 --> 0:00:30.080 to be going on a book tour for the paperback 0:00:30.120 --> 0:00:33.120 release of my book Raw Dog, The Naked Truth about 0:00:33.159 --> 0:00:37.200 hot Dogs. Ever heard of it? It is coming out 0:00:37.240 --> 0:00:40.320 in soft cover. If you are the kind of person 0:00:40.360 --> 0:00:42.440 that doesn't want to spend twenty eight dollars out of book, 0:00:42.600 --> 0:00:45.919 fair enough, we have a more affordable option. And if 0:00:45.920 --> 0:00:48.720 you haven't purchased the book and you know, maybe you're 0:00:48.760 --> 0:00:51.240 able to now you know, it's also a great gift. 0:00:51.320 --> 0:00:54.240 I sound so desperate. The thing is, it's a soft 0:00:54.280 --> 0:00:56.320 cover book and people love us. 0:00:56.400 --> 0:00:58.400 And I love a flaccid book. 0:00:58.520 --> 0:01:02.600 Yeah, it's a little book. And if you do have 0:01:02.640 --> 0:01:06.319 the hardcover and you're a completionist, there is also a 0:01:06.480 --> 0:01:11.080 brand new ForWord that I wrote, and also the acknowledgments 0:01:11.080 --> 0:01:15.319 have been adjusted to acknowledge that my agents were resionists, 0:01:15.360 --> 0:01:18.280 so I don't really thank them anymore. So there's a 0:01:18.480 --> 0:01:21.319 thrilling edition there as well. But there is new stuff 0:01:21.360 --> 0:01:24.160 in the book and it costs less and we love that. 0:01:25.319 --> 0:01:29.280 I will be going on tour throughout the country to 0:01:29.319 --> 0:01:32.319 promote the new book, and if you're a Bechdel head 0:01:32.360 --> 0:01:34.720 and you're in the area, this is a really great 0:01:34.800 --> 0:01:38.920 chance to come and hang out. It's all I'm at bookstores. 0:01:39.480 --> 0:01:41.479 I did kind of bigger shows the first time around, 0:01:41.480 --> 0:01:44.240 but this time we're just chilling. So for you kitling 0:01:44.319 --> 0:01:47.440 with your permission, I'm just going to rattle off some dates. 0:01:47.640 --> 0:01:52.520 What if I was like, no, no, click z, I'm 0:01:52.520 --> 0:01:55.520 going to go pee. 0:01:54.920 --> 0:01:58.040 No please, by all means tell us Okay. 0:01:58.600 --> 0:02:02.800 May thirteenth, twenty twenty five, almost my birthday, So I 0:02:02.840 --> 0:02:05.600 know I'm missing your birthday. It's an act of violence. 0:02:06.080 --> 0:02:09.519 I will be at North Fig Bookshop in Los Angeles, 0:02:09.800 --> 0:02:13.399 hosted by friend of the cast Julia Clair. May fourteenth. 0:02:13.480 --> 0:02:17.680 I will be at Carmichael's Bookstore in Louisville, Kentucky. On 0:02:17.800 --> 0:02:21.240 May fifteenth, I will be at the Cambridge Public Library 0:02:21.240 --> 0:02:25.680 in Massachusetts with the Harvard Bookstore and I will be 0:02:25.760 --> 0:02:29.280 in conversation with one of my dear friends, PBS's own 0:02:29.400 --> 0:02:34.080 Tory Bedford. On the nineteenth of May, I will be 0:02:34.200 --> 0:02:38.320 in Portland, Maine at Longfellow Books, hosted by friend of 0:02:38.360 --> 0:02:39.920 the cast, Mayo Williams. 0:02:39.919 --> 0:02:41.320 I am very, very excited. 0:02:41.960 --> 0:02:46.480 On the twentieth, I will be going down to Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, 0:02:46.840 --> 0:02:48.960 my home state. I know they're going to be begging, 0:02:49.200 --> 0:02:52.240 They're like, where are they? I will be at the 0:02:52.320 --> 0:02:57.000 Midtown Scholar Bookstore and Cafe in conversation with Joe Piazza. 0:02:57.320 --> 0:03:00.840 Then on May twenty first, I will be at the 0:03:00.960 --> 0:03:06.040 Fountain Bookstore in Richmond, Virginia. And on May twenty second, 0:03:06.520 --> 0:03:12.600 I will be at Coppersfield Books in Pedaluma, California. And finally, 0:03:13.080 --> 0:03:16.760 on May thirty first, I will be at Marin Country Mart, 0:03:16.960 --> 0:03:21.640 which is also with Coppersfield's book in Larkspur, California. So 0:03:21.639 --> 0:03:24.360 if you live in those areas, please come out. I 0:03:24.360 --> 0:03:26.480 would love to see you. I'd love to chat. Please 0:03:26.520 --> 0:03:30.480 recommend your favorite hot dog, Let's talk, beck tol Cast, 0:03:30.560 --> 0:03:34.920 let's do whatever. And there will be dates announced later 0:03:34.960 --> 0:03:38.480 in the summer. So if you would like a show 0:03:38.680 --> 0:03:42.280 or a signing to happen in your town. Please reach 0:03:42.560 --> 0:03:45.440 out and I will send it to my publisher and 0:03:45.480 --> 0:03:50.640 be like, see, I should go there. Anyways, that's a great. 0:03:51.000 --> 0:03:56.400 It's begging works sometimes, and we'll link this full thing 0:03:56.440 --> 0:04:00.440 in the description. But see you soon. I'm making a 0:04:00.480 --> 0:04:03.640 little outfit and that's the Jamie Loftus promise. 0:04:04.240 --> 0:04:06.200 I can't wait to see. 0:04:06.280 --> 0:04:08.640 So if you click the link in the description, it 0:04:08.680 --> 0:04:11.520 will take you to the full page where you can 0:04:11.880 --> 0:04:15.200 register to go to these events. They are all free events, 0:04:15.800 --> 0:04:18.720 so come and hang out and provided that I get 0:04:18.720 --> 0:04:20.800 my shit together in time, there will also be speakers 0:04:20.839 --> 0:04:23.960 from local unions at all of these signings, So come out, 0:04:24.560 --> 0:04:27.280 make some friends, come hang out and h let's eat 0:04:27.320 --> 0:04:28.000 some hot dogs. 0:04:28.240 --> 0:04:31.520 Beautiful. We'll throw the link to be able to access 0:04:32.320 --> 0:04:35.599 registration for the events on our link tree as well 0:04:35.760 --> 0:04:39.720 link tree slash Bechtel Cast, so there's no excuse not 0:04:39.920 --> 0:04:40.560 to come. 0:04:41.080 --> 0:04:44.000 It's free, it's fun. I'll be wearing a little outfit. 0:04:44.120 --> 0:04:45.000 Come buy the book. 0:04:45.160 --> 0:04:45.360 Woo. 0:04:46.640 --> 0:04:50.120 One last quick note about this episode. We were kind 0:04:50.120 --> 0:04:52.880 of strapped for time during this recording and we ended 0:04:52.960 --> 0:04:55.200 up having to record some pickups a few days later 0:04:55.279 --> 0:04:58.200 with just Jamie and myself. So there's a chunk toward 0:04:58.240 --> 0:05:00.320 the end of the episode where you might know notice 0:05:00.480 --> 0:05:04.800 that our guest is not saying anything because she is 0:05:04.920 --> 0:05:08.760 not there. So just giving everyone a quick heads up 0:05:08.880 --> 0:05:14.839 about that. Enjoy the episode the cast. 0:05:14.120 --> 0:05:20.120 Do Do Do Do Wow? 0:05:20.320 --> 0:05:23.320 Jamie, will you always be my Maybe? 0:05:23.800 --> 0:05:29.080 No, I'll always be your baby. I'll be your baby girl, 0:05:29.160 --> 0:05:32.560 Always be your baby, Always be my baby girl, Nicole 0:05:32.640 --> 0:05:33.719 Kipman twenty four. 0:05:34.440 --> 0:05:35.040 So true. 0:05:35.279 --> 0:05:39.040 I you know, it is funny thinking about after now 0:05:39.080 --> 0:05:42.120 having seen the movie there that even the title is 0:05:42.120 --> 0:05:46.640 indicating are these two right for each other? Welcome to 0:05:46.720 --> 0:05:50.039 the Bechel Cast. My name is Jamie Loftus. 0:05:49.640 --> 0:05:52.400 My name is Caitlin Deonte. This is our show where 0:05:52.440 --> 0:05:55.839 we examine movies through an intersectional feminist lens, using the 0:05:55.920 --> 0:05:59.359 Bechdel Test as a jumping off point, and that, of course, 0:05:59.480 --> 0:06:03.280 is a medium created by Alison Bechtel. There are many 0:06:03.360 --> 0:06:06.880 versions of the test, and the one that we use 0:06:07.279 --> 0:06:12.400 is this, do two characters of a marginalized gender have names? 0:06:12.800 --> 0:06:15.839 Do they speak to each other? And is there conversation 0:06:15.920 --> 0:06:17.559 about something other than a man? 0:06:18.160 --> 0:06:22.599 And in this economy is it too much to ask? 0:06:24.000 --> 0:06:24.240 Yes? 0:06:24.520 --> 0:06:29.720 Today? We'll find out. Yeah, we're really excited to We're 0:06:29.760 --> 0:06:32.360 just gonna jump in this week. This is a long 0:06:32.520 --> 0:06:36.200 time request. I think we have been getting consistent requests 0:06:36.240 --> 0:06:39.719 for this movie since it came out almost six years ago. So, 0:06:40.160 --> 0:06:44.320 you know, thank you for your patience. The time is now, 0:06:44.800 --> 0:06:49.719 the guest is perfect. We are covering Always Be My Maybe, 0:06:50.120 --> 0:06:54.919 twenty nineteen, directed by Nanachica, con starring and written by 0:06:55.000 --> 0:06:57.679 Ali Wong and Randall Park. 0:06:58.160 --> 0:07:00.520 Ever heard of them? 0:07:00.560 --> 0:07:02.640 Hopefully they're right. 0:07:02.960 --> 0:07:07.160 They're so funny. And speaking of so funny, our guest 0:07:07.520 --> 0:07:14.280 today is an author, screenwriter, journalist, actress, also best friend 0:07:14.360 --> 0:07:18.000 to the Pod period and you know her from past 0:07:18.080 --> 0:07:24.680 episodes such as Ever After, Hairspray, Cadet Kelly nineteen ninety seven, Cinderella, 0:07:25.120 --> 0:07:29.440 It's Kia Brown, Yay, I'm I'm. 0:07:29.280 --> 0:07:31.880 So happy to be here, and they totally organically came 0:07:31.960 --> 0:07:34.880 up with calling me bestie of the Pod. Yeah, it 0:07:34.960 --> 0:07:37.240 was totally organic. I didn't treasure them at all. 0:07:37.480 --> 0:07:39.320 It just felt right. It felt right, it did. 0:07:39.480 --> 0:07:41.800 I just love them, and I was like, I need 0:07:41.840 --> 0:07:44.000 to be here. I miss you, we miss you. 0:07:44.160 --> 0:07:48.080 Thanks for coming back, come back always always always, So, 0:07:48.480 --> 0:07:52.800 what is your history your relationship with always be my maybe. 0:07:53.120 --> 0:07:57.120 Okay, So here's the thing. I love Ali Wong, and 0:07:58.000 --> 0:08:00.000 when it first premiered, I was like, Okay, I'm gonna 0:08:00.040 --> 0:08:03.440 watch it play like period. And then I watched it, 0:08:03.800 --> 0:08:06.680 I fell in love with Randall Park, and I've been, 0:08:07.440 --> 0:08:12.320 you know, rewatching it kind of regularly since because I 0:08:12.320 --> 0:08:14.160 mean I knew who Randall Park was because he was 0:08:14.200 --> 0:08:17.680 on Fresh off the Boat. But really my relationship is 0:08:17.760 --> 0:08:20.640 just like, Wow, a man who I like. 0:08:21.280 --> 0:08:26.200 Wild They really make it hard to like them, Yeah, 0:08:26.240 --> 0:08:26.640 they do. 0:08:27.960 --> 0:08:31.440 But Randall Park is I think, like s Tier, just 0:08:31.600 --> 0:08:36.600 naturally charming, very much like it, just irresistible, very likable. 0:08:37.920 --> 0:08:40.199 So yeah, you watch it when it first came out, 0:08:40.240 --> 0:08:42.839 and then have just been watching it steadily since. 0:08:43.200 --> 0:08:45.600 Yes, pretty much. It had been a while since I 0:08:45.600 --> 0:08:49.240 did rewatch before the pod, but I rewatched it this 0:08:49.280 --> 0:08:52.320 morning just to you know, refresh myself. But I tend 0:08:52.360 --> 0:08:54.319 to watch it a lot when I'm like I need 0:08:54.360 --> 0:08:56.840 a rom com day. I need something that feels like, 0:08:57.720 --> 0:08:59.320 you know, life is good. 0:09:00.720 --> 0:09:05.680 Nice. I'm not a big rom com person, never have been, 0:09:06.320 --> 0:09:09.559 but this is one that I like a lot more 0:09:09.640 --> 0:09:11.400 than a lot of other rom cos I saw that 0:09:11.400 --> 0:09:14.160 when it I think right when it first came out. 0:09:14.520 --> 0:09:16.600 Also my concept of time. I mean, I'm not saying 0:09:16.640 --> 0:09:20.080 anything new here, but the pandemic really warped all of 0:09:20.120 --> 0:09:21.120 our understanding. 0:09:21.440 --> 0:09:24.280 This movie came out like yet the year before. I 0:09:24.280 --> 0:09:26.760 feel like I have a real hard time with movies 0:09:26.800 --> 0:09:30.160 from twenty nineteen now where you're like, you have no idea, 0:09:30.360 --> 0:09:35.400 you don't know what it's like here. Well, I was like, yeah, 0:09:35.440 --> 0:09:39.800 not the movie's fault, but I'm just like buckle in assholes. 0:09:40.400 --> 0:09:43.839 Well, I was like, yeah, this movie probably came out 0:09:43.840 --> 0:09:47.400 in like twenty twenty three. No, it came out so 0:09:47.520 --> 0:09:49.120 many years before that, but. 0:09:49.480 --> 0:09:53.720 Which felt like the weirdest time capsule. Watching it back, 0:09:53.800 --> 0:09:55.760 You're like, yeah, why does this feel like an old 0:09:55.800 --> 0:09:56.560 time film? 0:09:58.559 --> 0:09:58.880 It is? 0:09:59.160 --> 0:10:01.040 That was another thing I had in my notes where 0:10:01.040 --> 0:10:04.240 I feel like this movie for me right now exists 0:10:04.280 --> 0:10:07.400 in this kind of like Uncanny Valley where it feels 0:10:07.520 --> 0:10:10.560 kind of dated because it was six years ago and 0:10:10.600 --> 0:10:13.120 it's very like of the moment it came out, but 0:10:13.200 --> 0:10:16.360 it's not old enough to feel nostalgic for it. And 0:10:16.440 --> 0:10:19.439 so I feel like comedy movies that are like between 0:10:19.559 --> 0:10:22.600 like six and you know, ten ish years old. You're like, 0:10:22.880 --> 0:10:25.440 it's just it's I don't know, it's it's it doesn't 0:10:25.440 --> 0:10:28.280 feel like, oh yeah, I miss this time. I'm like, 0:10:28.679 --> 0:10:31.280 I don't miss twenty ninety. I guess in some ways 0:10:31.280 --> 0:10:33.880 I do. But it was already pretty bad. 0:10:34.520 --> 0:10:35.160 It was. 0:10:36.480 --> 0:10:40.960 Yeah, but yeah, I mean I saw it pretty early 0:10:41.040 --> 0:10:44.440 on into it being released on Netflix. I think I 0:10:44.480 --> 0:10:46.600 got like a tiny theatrical release, but it was like 0:10:46.720 --> 0:10:48.760 mostly a Netflix movie. Yeah. 0:10:48.760 --> 0:10:53.320 And you can tell because they mentioned Fix broadly mentioned Netflix. 0:10:53.840 --> 0:10:54.160 Yeah. 0:10:54.280 --> 0:10:54.600 Yeah. 0:10:54.640 --> 0:10:57.120 But the thing is, you know, it's the grossest part. 0:10:57.640 --> 0:10:59.000 I find that so charming. 0:11:00.640 --> 0:11:05.120 I mean, it's like the Christmas Expanded. Yeah, when Lindsay 0:11:05.160 --> 0:11:07.840 Lohan is watching the Christmas Prints, I'm like, yeah, yeah, 0:11:07.960 --> 0:11:11.520 I like that. But is there anything more twenty nineteen 0:11:11.640 --> 0:11:14.680 than Ali Wong being like, is it the Crown? I'm like, 0:11:14.720 --> 0:11:16.720 oh my god, it was a moment. It was a moment. 0:11:17.440 --> 0:11:17.680 Yeah. 0:11:17.720 --> 0:11:21.319 Anyway, So I generally like this movie. I have some thoughts, 0:11:21.360 --> 0:11:25.720 I have some notes, but this is more my speed 0:11:25.760 --> 0:11:28.719 when it comes to rom coms, and I'd seen it 0:11:28.840 --> 0:11:32.240 I think twice before prepping for this episode. But yeah, 0:11:32.240 --> 0:11:35.240 I'm excited to talk about it. Jamie what about You. 0:11:36.559 --> 0:11:41.840 Okay, I this is my first time seeing this movie. 0:11:42.000 --> 0:11:46.280 I was going in like kind of not even thinking 0:11:46.360 --> 0:11:49.880 that I would not enjoy it because I love Ali 0:11:49.920 --> 0:11:53.679 Wong Randall Park, one of the most charismatic comic actors 0:11:53.679 --> 0:11:56.800 that exists. I read a little bit about the movie before. 0:11:56.880 --> 0:12:00.559 I love that they co wrote it together. I love 0:12:00.640 --> 0:12:04.320 that there was so much energy, like their fans to 0:12:04.400 --> 0:12:07.120 get this movie made. I love that they have like 0:12:07.520 --> 0:12:10.360 randomly known each other for a long time and wanted 0:12:10.360 --> 0:12:12.760 to do this for I found the background story so charming. 0:12:12.760 --> 0:12:15.360 I'm like, let's go. I can't wait. And I did 0:12:15.400 --> 0:12:16.320 not like the movie. 0:12:17.400 --> 0:12:18.240 I didn't like it. 0:12:18.280 --> 0:12:21.200 I found it and part of this is like me 0:12:21.520 --> 0:12:23.480 projecting a little bit. But but but hear me out. 0:12:24.120 --> 0:12:26.960 I think this couple is not gonna make it. 0:12:27.000 --> 0:12:27.319 I think this. 0:12:27.640 --> 0:12:31.360 I found it very stressful. I found this couple to 0:12:31.400 --> 0:12:35.360 be very, very, very stressful. I think she should not 0:12:35.600 --> 0:12:38.400 have this man's child. He learned how to do laundry 0:12:38.440 --> 0:12:41.120 three days ago. And she's like, I think I'm gonna 0:12:41.200 --> 0:12:42.280 I want to be with you for the rest of 0:12:42.280 --> 0:12:45.320 my life. I like, I don't know, I don't And 0:12:45.360 --> 0:12:47.520 I also find it like this is very rom comy, 0:12:47.600 --> 0:12:49.920 but I feel like a lot of rom coms, the 0:12:50.000 --> 0:12:52.720 reason that they don't quite click is because they don't 0:12:52.760 --> 0:12:56.360 bother to write one of the characters. But both of 0:12:56.400 --> 0:12:58.880 these characters are We know a lot about them. They're 0:12:58.920 --> 0:13:01.320 fully realized. We know about their backgrounds, and that is 0:13:01.320 --> 0:13:04.160 why I feel confident when I say these people are 0:13:04.280 --> 0:13:08.520 fundamentally incompatible for each other. They're not going to make it. 0:13:08.600 --> 0:13:11.480 I think they should marry other people and then like 0:13:11.600 --> 0:13:14.319 hook up over the holidays like grown ups. To you, 0:13:15.200 --> 0:13:18.959 they should not get married. I think truly. Like I 0:13:19.000 --> 0:13:22.240 the the watching the last fifteen minutes, I was like, 0:13:22.559 --> 0:13:25.880 I'm so worried for her because this guy and I 0:13:25.920 --> 0:13:29.240 am projecting here, but like these things happen. A guy 0:13:29.320 --> 0:13:30.640 comes up, you know, he's like. 0:13:30.600 --> 0:13:31.600 Guess what, guess what. 0:13:31.760 --> 0:13:34.440 Two weeks ago, everything about me changed. I am a 0:13:34.480 --> 0:13:38.160 fundamentally new person, and it's for you. I no longer 0:13:38.200 --> 0:13:41.679 resent your success. I am willing to uproot my entire 0:13:41.800 --> 0:13:44.520 life to be with you. I've fully processed the death 0:13:44.559 --> 0:13:46.719 of my mother, and actually I think it would be 0:13:46.760 --> 0:13:49.920 amazing if you made a ton of money making her recipes. 0:13:49.960 --> 0:13:51.079 I also think that's creepy. 0:13:51.600 --> 0:13:55.840 But anyways, his mom like plagiarizing his mom's recipes. 0:13:55.920 --> 0:13:56.840 I think she should. 0:13:57.000 --> 0:13:58.760 I mean, I feel like she should have like checked 0:13:58.800 --> 0:14:00.520 in with him more before being like, just's what my 0:14:00.600 --> 0:14:02.480 business is your dead mom's recipes? 0:14:02.760 --> 0:14:04.440 What? I like? 0:14:04.760 --> 0:14:07.520 I am not rooting for them. I think that ten 0:14:07.600 --> 0:14:10.480 days after the events of the last scene in this movie, 0:14:10.520 --> 0:14:13.040 he wakes up and is like, oh my god, I 0:14:13.080 --> 0:14:16.600 have left everything I ever know. I don't have a job. 0:14:16.760 --> 0:14:19.960 I have stated in public that it is my dream 0:14:20.040 --> 0:14:23.240 to like, I feel like the feminism of this movie 0:14:23.320 --> 0:14:27.280 is very weird, where it's like feminism is a man 0:14:27.720 --> 0:14:31.400 definitely changing and giving up on any of his ambition. 0:14:31.640 --> 0:14:33.880 You're like, no, it's not, but his band isn't gonna 0:14:33.880 --> 0:14:36.160 be successful, like we all saw it that. 0:14:36.760 --> 0:14:38.800 It's just I found. 0:14:38.600 --> 0:14:42.400 It so stressful, like she has taken on and I 0:14:42.400 --> 0:14:45.640 think she's asking too much of him by having him 0:14:45.760 --> 0:14:48.320 move across the country, like she is not compromised with 0:14:48.440 --> 0:14:51.120 him at all. I just am like, I don't know. 0:14:51.160 --> 0:14:53.880 I've been in couples counseling before, and these two are 0:14:54.120 --> 0:14:57.760 they are not gonna go the distance I feel I 0:14:57.800 --> 0:15:00.760 feel for them. They deserve happiness, but not with each other. 0:15:01.640 --> 0:15:06.320 I don't disagree. I also don't think they're compatible nor 0:15:06.360 --> 0:15:09.080 will they make it. But I've never seen a rom call. 0:15:09.200 --> 0:15:13.000 Blood pressure was off the charts. I was so scared 0:15:13.040 --> 0:15:13.440 for them. 0:15:13.640 --> 0:15:15.720 For me, I'm just like, I watch any rom com 0:15:15.720 --> 0:15:18.280 and I'm like, yeah, none of these people are gonna 0:15:18.280 --> 0:15:20.760 make it. I don't even like consider that. 0:15:21.640 --> 0:15:26.120 See I get I think, I mean, I see what 0:15:26.160 --> 0:15:29.640 you're saying, but I think that I just found it busy. 0:15:29.720 --> 0:15:31.680 I mean, and there's we'll talk about. There's so much 0:15:31.720 --> 0:15:33.800 to love about this movie. There's a lot to love 0:15:33.840 --> 0:15:36.720 about this movie, but I just was so I found 0:15:36.840 --> 0:15:40.160 the central relationship to be so distracting, where every beat 0:15:40.240 --> 0:15:43.400 of the movie of them growing closer, I'm like, this 0:15:43.480 --> 0:15:44.120 is toxic. 0:15:44.280 --> 0:15:45.080 This is toxic. 0:15:45.720 --> 0:15:48.400 And you don't need to marry the person you lost 0:15:48.400 --> 0:15:52.040 your virginity too, Like you can just be close with 0:15:52.080 --> 0:15:53.520 them and be like I always find that to be 0:15:53.520 --> 0:15:56.880 like a weirdly conservative thing to be like, oh, you know, 0:15:56.960 --> 0:16:00.640 it's your first love. Also this, oh my god, sorry, 0:16:00.800 --> 0:16:03.560 I was like, my face is hot the scene where 0:16:05.560 --> 0:16:08.600 and this is definitely be projecting because I recently lost 0:16:08.600 --> 0:16:11.440 a parent. But like the way that that is the 0:16:11.520 --> 0:16:15.520 dead mom trope I thought was so cheap and like 0:16:16.200 --> 0:16:18.720 he also, I mean, it is funny that Randall Park 0:16:18.800 --> 0:16:22.400 is visibly like forty five and he's like, I'm just 0:16:22.440 --> 0:16:24.320 a seventeen year I'm just a little guy. 0:16:25.160 --> 0:16:25.640 I loved that. 0:16:26.440 --> 0:16:28.480 I loved it because I felt the same way about 0:16:28.480 --> 0:16:32.000 Elie Wong. I was like, yeah, they try it. 0:16:33.080 --> 0:16:35.800 It was literally watching Penn fifteen for ten minutes of 0:16:35.840 --> 0:16:36.240 the movie. 0:16:36.520 --> 0:16:41.320 Literally, you're like, I loved them fifteen, So yeah, celebratory. 0:16:41.560 --> 0:16:44.440 I wish I almost wish they'd played into that a 0:16:44.480 --> 0:16:46.640 little more. But I mean I didn't have an issue 0:16:46.640 --> 0:16:49.320 with that, but just that that, like the way that 0:16:49.320 --> 0:16:51.960 that played out where his mom had just died. Ali 0:16:52.040 --> 0:16:54.560 Wong is like, well, she's my mom too, and and 0:16:54.800 --> 0:16:58.360 Randall Park correctly is like, well, no she's not. And 0:16:58.400 --> 0:17:00.400 then she's like, I'm never gonna speak to you again. 0:17:00.440 --> 0:17:03.680 I was like, that's awful. You're being a bad friend. 0:17:04.080 --> 0:17:07.880 And she never apologizes, She never apologizes for doing that. 0:17:08.160 --> 0:17:13.720 I oh, ooh, these characters. I just think they need 0:17:13.720 --> 0:17:18.680 to go to therapy and don't move in together, don't 0:17:18.680 --> 0:17:21.800 have a kid, focus on yourselves. 0:17:22.200 --> 0:17:25.840 What I'm about to say it's so controversial, I can't wait. 0:17:26.760 --> 0:17:29.960 First of all, I disagree entirely. Okay, So here's the thing. Okay, 0:17:30.760 --> 0:17:34.720 I think it wasn't that he I'm speaking solely of 0:17:34.800 --> 0:17:36.879 the end of the movie. I don't think he flew 0:17:36.920 --> 0:17:39.720 there and was like I changed all of these things 0:17:39.720 --> 0:17:42.760 about myself just for you. I think it was just like, 0:17:43.680 --> 0:17:47.960 I would rather fuck up on all lives things win 0:17:48.040 --> 0:17:52.520 you than I would without you. And so for me. 0:17:52.880 --> 0:17:56.520 And here's the kicker. We deeply agree that she never apologized, 0:17:56.760 --> 0:17:58.640 and I hate it. That's so weird. I don't understand 0:17:58.720 --> 0:18:03.119 why movie he's well meaning or not cut out necessary 0:18:03.160 --> 0:18:07.040 apologies because I think that she desperately needed to give 0:18:07.080 --> 0:18:09.280 him one when she's like, you're an asshole and didn't 0:18:09.320 --> 0:18:12.520 talk to him for like fifteen years because she said, hey, 0:18:12.600 --> 0:18:15.520 my mom just died. Like my mom just died, and 0:18:15.560 --> 0:18:18.399 I know you loved her. Cool, we love that, but 0:18:19.240 --> 0:18:23.399 she was my mom, Like he's grieving hello, But I 0:18:23.440 --> 0:18:26.159 don't know. There was just something about it that I 0:18:26.280 --> 0:18:29.000 was just like, And this is really in part because 0:18:29.000 --> 0:18:32.760 I'm so used to couples not having chemistry anymore. 0:18:33.280 --> 0:18:35.840 Yeah, Like that's a very their chemistry is amazing. 0:18:35.920 --> 0:18:37.800 Their chemistry is amazing, So I think that that's what's 0:18:37.840 --> 0:18:40.879 doing the heavy lifting for me. But I literally was like, oh, 0:18:40.920 --> 0:18:41.880 I hope they make it. 0:18:43.680 --> 0:18:45.280 I hope they're make it, even though. 0:18:45.200 --> 0:18:47.280 They've got a ton of stuff to work through. Like, 0:18:47.280 --> 0:18:50.560 like you said, she doesn't really compromise at all throughout 0:18:50.600 --> 0:18:53.800 the movie, Like I forgot until you said it that 0:18:53.920 --> 0:18:58.000 they literally flew across the world and the dad it's like, 0:18:58.040 --> 0:19:00.000 thanks for letting us visit to see the new rest 0:19:00.200 --> 0:19:01.040 And then I was like, oh. 0:19:01.000 --> 0:19:04.040 Right, yeah, she's like I made this right. She doesn't 0:19:04.080 --> 0:19:07.320 mean even though she has a restaurant in San Francisco. 0:19:07.240 --> 0:19:09.359 That she can easily run, she could have changed the 0:19:09.400 --> 0:19:12.879 restaurant in San Francisco to be closer to what she 0:19:12.960 --> 0:19:15.359 always wanted it to be, not open a new one. 0:19:15.720 --> 0:19:19.240 And the end of the plot moved so quickly that 0:19:19.359 --> 0:19:23.840 it was very whiplashy, where yeah, no, she doesn't compromise 0:19:23.920 --> 0:19:27.159 at all, which is I guess, okay to the extent 0:19:27.200 --> 0:19:29.960 that they broke up, Like she didn't, she didn't owe 0:19:30.040 --> 0:19:33.439 him anything. But like there is this montage of like 0:19:34.000 --> 0:19:37.320 Randall Park randomly gets his shit together and he's like, 0:19:37.400 --> 0:19:40.239 I'm just he just moved into his own apartment and 0:19:40.280 --> 0:19:42.880 now he's leaving, Like what do you mean? 0:19:43.040 --> 0:19:45.120 And you know how expensive it is to break a lease. 0:19:45.720 --> 0:19:49.320 He's like, San Francisco, I'll like get real. He's like, 0:19:49.359 --> 0:19:53.159 I'm out of here all right before we sorry, sorry, 0:19:53.320 --> 0:19:55.000 Let's take a quick break and then we'll come back 0:19:55.000 --> 0:19:57.560 to the recap and then we will dive back in. 0:20:08.720 --> 0:20:09.920 And we're bad. 0:20:10.640 --> 0:20:14.399 This is thrilling, this, this is hot. 0:20:14.480 --> 0:20:17.720 This is this is heat from a stove that. 0:20:18.119 --> 0:20:21.440 Sasha Randall Park's dead Mom's recipe. 0:20:21.720 --> 0:20:24.840 Like also, like, no, it got to be rude, but like, 0:20:24.960 --> 0:20:27.600 why couldn't they kill off the dam Like. 0:20:28.480 --> 0:20:30.840 I like, I thought his I thought the dad character 0:20:31.040 --> 0:20:32.040 was so charming. 0:20:32.400 --> 0:20:35.000 I love the dad. But if you're gonna kill off 0:20:35.000 --> 0:20:37.520 a character, why is it always the mom? 0:20:37.960 --> 0:20:42.760 It's always so often always And I was literally, okay again, 0:20:42.800 --> 0:20:44.760 I just like, don't think this movie is very well written, 0:20:44.840 --> 0:20:47.480 because I was literally in the middle of writing down 0:20:47.840 --> 0:20:50.399 I love the mom character, and then it cut to 0:20:51.000 --> 0:20:53.280 they're just chilling on a bridge and the dad walks. 0:20:53.320 --> 0:20:55.080 It reminded me of the first scene in a series 0:20:55.119 --> 0:20:58.119 of unfortunate events, just like he comes out of the 0:20:58.160 --> 0:21:01.320 shadows and he's like, bad news, your mom's dead, and 0:21:01.400 --> 0:21:06.280 then cut to their fucking You're like, what the pasic. 0:21:05.960 --> 0:21:07.119 Is so bizarre? 0:21:07.640 --> 0:21:08.080 You know what? 0:21:08.160 --> 0:21:12.600 I hated. I hated her parents because I hate when 0:21:12.640 --> 0:21:16.960 it's like parents are absentee and then they're like, well 0:21:17.600 --> 0:21:20.880 I showed up now, and like again this has been projecting, 0:21:21.280 --> 0:21:24.800 But I hate an absentee parent that's like, oh, well, 0:21:24.880 --> 0:21:26.840 you know, I went in and bought the food at 0:21:26.920 --> 0:21:29.440 the restaurant, and I didn't tell them that we were related, 0:21:29.520 --> 0:21:32.280 so like I paid full price, but that's gonna be 0:21:32.280 --> 0:21:35.760