1 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: I think like you, I. 2 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 2: Really pushed myself, and I also I think I should stop. 3 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 2: You know, you're not never going to please anybody. 4 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're never going to please anybody. 5 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:16,079 Speaker 4: That's so funny as opposed to you're never going to 6 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:16,959 Speaker 4: please everybody. 7 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:18,480 Speaker 3: You're never going to please anybody. 8 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:20,439 Speaker 4: My dad used to say that because you know, the 9 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 4: phrase is I can't have everything, and my. 10 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:25,120 Speaker 3: Dad used to go, oh, well you can't have anything. 11 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 2: I like that. 12 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 5: Hello, I'm Mini driver. I've always loved Preust's questionnaire. It 13 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 5: was originally in nineteenth century parlor game where players would 14 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 5: ask each other thirty five questions aimed at revealing. 15 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 3: The other player's true nature. 16 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:45,919 Speaker 5: In asking different people the same set of questions, you 17 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 5: can make observations about which truths appear to be universal. 18 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 3: And it made me. 19 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 5: Wonder, what if these questions were just a jumping off point, 20 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 5: what greater depths would be revealed if I asked these 21 00:00:56,640 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 5: questions as conversation starters. So I adapted Pru's questionnaire and 22 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 5: I wrote my own seven questions that I personally think 23 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 5: are pertinent to a person's story. They are when and 24 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 5: where were you happiest? What is the quality you like 25 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 5: least about yourself. What relationship, real or fictionalized, defines love 26 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:18,679 Speaker 5: for you? What question would you most like answered, What person, place, 27 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:21,679 Speaker 5: or experience has shaped you the most? What would be 28 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 5: your last meal? And can you tell me something in 29 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 5: your life that's grown out of a personal disaster? And 30 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 5: I've gathered a group of really remarkable people, ones that 31 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:35,119 Speaker 5: I am honored and humbled to have had the chance 32 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 5: to engage with. You may not hear their answers to 33 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 5: all seven of these questions. We've whittled it down to 34 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 5: which questions felt closest to their experience or the most surprising, 35 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 5: or created the most fertile ground to connect. 36 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 6: My guest today is the chef, author, and broadcaster Romy Gill, 37 00:01:56,760 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 6: a truly wonderful, self made powerhouse whose food is well. 38 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 6: Last time I ate at one of her pop up restaurants, 39 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:10,920 Speaker 6: it was an extremely quiet experience because nearly everyone in 40 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 6: the restaurant was quite literally in a silent reverie over 41 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 6: her food. Her cookbooks are warm and insightful, and the 42 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 6: newest of which is out this September and is entitled 43 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:22,920 Speaker 6: Romy Girls India. 44 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 3: Where and When were you Happiest? 45 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 2: So I'm going to take you back to my childhood, 46 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:41,640 Speaker 2: those long train journeys. If anybody hasn't experienced that, children's 47 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 2: born in nineteen seventies, eighties and early nineties, Indian families 48 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 2: will understand what I'm talking about. 49 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 1: In India is such a big. 50 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 2: Country and those long train journeys were something so beautiful, 51 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 2: so amazing that we would embark on this journey. My 52 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 2: dad worked in a steel plant in West Bengal, but 53 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 2: my parents are both. 54 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 1: From north in Deer and we would take this. 55 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 3: Long journey from Bengal to the Punjab. 56 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 2: Jah, which is a nor then investment goal is to 57 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 2: East India. So I think that journey was more than 58 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 2: twenty four hours on a train on the train, and 59 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 2: you know, and Dad would make this beautiful picnic that 60 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 2: needed to be last the whole more than twenty four hours, 61 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 2: and we would look in the uniqueness of that. I 62 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:32,079 Speaker 2: think it's rare now because everybody flies so quickly from 63 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 2: one destination to another, and that train going from different 64 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 2: regions of different state, and then the trains would stop 65 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 2: and my dad and mom hagging and bartering for mangoes. 66 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 2: You know, if it's like one hundred of fees, give 67 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 2: it for sixty rupees or something like that to kill it. 68 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 1: And all those food. 69 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 2: From different regions or states, you would only eat when 70 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 2: you're going on that journey, because you have to understand 71 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 2: it's so diverse. We are such a diverse country. We 72 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 2: speak different languages, a food is different, and as a child, 73 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 2: that was for me something I don't know. I was 74 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 2: so eager to wait for those delicacies, to eat those food. 75 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 4: So as you go into each region, you'd get a difference, 76 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:17,599 Speaker 4: so you'd know we're going into mango region. Now that's 77 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 4: what we're going to be looking forward to. And then 78 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 4: that's so lovely. 79 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 2: And strain would stop, and then we would need Like 80 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 2: some places there was a katori or body, which is 81 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 2: like a deep fried bread with potato curry, which is 82 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 2: so delicious, so simple, and you know, just digging that 83 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:39,720 Speaker 2: bread in soaking aludum, we would call it just heavenly. 84 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 2: As a child, those things were so important. You know, 85 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 2: you understand we didn't have that technology. We are brought 86 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:49,159 Speaker 2: up in a very different environment, in a very sheltered environment. 87 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:51,279 Speaker 2: You know, grew up in a steel plant. So I 88 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 2: think for us, especially for me, those strange journeys, I 89 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:57,479 Speaker 2: think is my happiest place. 90 00:04:57,520 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 1: Still. 91 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 2: It still gives me joy when I talk about it. 92 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:03,599 Speaker 2: It's just it reminds me how I would meet people 93 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:06,359 Speaker 2: from different states going on that journey. You make friendships, 94 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:09,280 Speaker 2: and my system met her husband on the train. You 95 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 2: fell in love and got married. 96 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 4: No, Oh, my gosh, that's so incredibly romantic. That's amazing. 97 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 4: Would food become I mean, I'm assuming it would. The 98 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 4: different regions and the different times, and the different things 99 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:27,039 Speaker 4: that you would eat, I'm sure became markers of time 100 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 4: on a very long train journey. What you were going 101 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 4: to eat next would be then sort of next focus. 102 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 3: I mean, eating is an excellent way. 103 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 1: To excitement, isn't it. 104 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:39,160 Speaker 2: And then there would be little street vendors coming with chai, 105 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 2: which is Indian tea, or child moor, which is like 106 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 2: an Indian snack of things like that. They would get 107 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:47,600 Speaker 2: on the train and sell I mean even at mango 108 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 2: or raw mango with little chili flakes and black salt, 109 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 2: and you bite into that sourness and sweetness and chile. 110 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 2: I mean, I just cannot tell you how magical the food. 111 00:05:58,240 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 2: And I'm so. 112 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 1: Happy that I I'm a chef, and I. 113 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 2: Have those wonderful memories that I can create those dishes 114 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:07,040 Speaker 2: as well. I think that will always be my safest 115 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 2: place and a happy place. 116 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 3: Oh how lovely. 117 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:18,719 Speaker 4: What relationship, real or fictionalized, defines love for you? 118 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 2: I don't know if you've seen or heard a film 119 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:26,719 Speaker 2: called Lunchbox. It's a beautiful, beautiful movie. It came out 120 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 2: in twenty thirteen. It tells a story of a mistaken 121 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 2: lunch box delivery in Mumbai, where it leads to an unexpected, 122 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 2: beautiful friendship between a loona and a housewife who's very neglected, 123 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 2: and they started exchanging notes in the lunch box. And 124 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:54,159 Speaker 2: that relationship, I can't tell you, gives me goosebumps because 125 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:58,119 Speaker 2: it's such a beautiful movie the way it's made, Because 126 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:00,719 Speaker 2: if you see Bollivard movies, there are movies dancing around 127 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 2: the trees and many other things. But we have very 128 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 2: very good films as well, and they develop, I would say, 129 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 2: a deep emotional connection despite not ever meeting face to face. 130 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 2: They do decide to meet, and then circumstances happen and 131 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 2: they don't meet, and they leave you in a kind 132 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 2: of a situation. 133 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 1: You can make up your mind and think. 134 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 2: That they might meet it, or they might not meet 135 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 2: I think the brief, profound connection. 136 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 1: That impacted their lives. 137 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 2: I think that for me is a remember of power 138 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 2: of how you don't have to have a connection through 139 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 2: just you know, sexual or anything like the connection they 140 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 2: had through those letters through the food. For me, that 141 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 2: I think defines a relationship or love. I think it's beautiful. 142 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 2: I think you will love that movie. 143 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 4: I'm definitely going to check that out. I love the 144 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 4: sound of that. I think it's not astonishing to me 145 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 4: that the idea of a conversation through food is something 146 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 4: that really appeals to you, because that's what your food is, 147 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 4: and it's what your books are like. They are like 148 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 4: having a conversation with your My favorite cookbooks are that way. 149 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 3: You feel like. 150 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 4: You're having a conversation with a person who wrote them 151 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 4: because of their conversation with the food. And when you've 152 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 4: cooked for me and all the other people who were 153 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 4: there the night that we ate your food, you couldn't 154 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 4: hear anybody talk because everyone was so busy eating. But 155 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 4: I love that idea of the literal and the figurative 156 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:35,079 Speaker 4: communicating through a lunch box. That's so beautiful. 157 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 2: It's a beautiful movie. 158 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 3: So what question would you most like answered? 159 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 1: Do you know what I'm thinking about this? For ages? 160 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:01,560 Speaker 1: Just I don't know. 161 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 2: I think finding meaning and happiness in my life? Should 162 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 2: my life be about finding meaning and happiness? 163 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:15,079 Speaker 3: If I know the root to one. 164 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 2: Of those things, I think I would have also found the. 165 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 1: Way to the other. 166 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 3: If you find meaning and happiness in my life, Oh, 167 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 3: I see. 168 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:28,959 Speaker 4: So do you not feel like those things are present 169 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 4: in your life anyway? 170 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 1: They are? Yes? 171 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 2: Meaning for me, meaningful with be I'm just chasing this 172 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:40,680 Speaker 2: dream of being the best chef or a good author, 173 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 2: or a good mom or you know, things that are 174 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 2: meaningful for me. And happiness is where my family is, 175 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:52,559 Speaker 2: my friendships are There's two different things for me. They 176 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 2: are in my life, but I'm still chasing them. 177 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:59,199 Speaker 4: So as your question, how you would combine both of those, 178 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:00,960 Speaker 4: how to cont them both. 179 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 2: How to connect them, and how in that way would 180 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:07,680 Speaker 2: I be able to find join together happiness? 181 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:08,079 Speaker 1: I don't know. 182 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's the balance of it comes back 183 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 4: to kind of the work ethic and feeling like there 184 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 4: is huge meaning in our work, huge meaning in our family. Yeah, 185 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 4: but how to connect those in a way that is balanced. 186 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 4: I feel like that's pretty much everybody. I mean, well 187 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 4: good people who are kind and loving and want to 188 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 4: explore how it is to combine those things. 189 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 3: But it's tricky, it is. 190 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 2: I know, I'm very happy with that what I do, 191 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 2: but I'm just pushing and pushing and pushing you know 192 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 2: when it's going to be enough. But I think that 193 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 2: to balance. Like you said, yeah, yeah, I mean good luck. 194 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 2: But you're not alone feeling that way. It's like something 195 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 2: that I said in my book. I was always complaining 196 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 2: to my mother about the hustle and having to always 197 00:10:56,800 --> 00:11:00,080 Speaker 2: work so hard and constantly trying to keep things going. 198 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 2: And you know, I'm self employed, always have been, that's 199 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:06,440 Speaker 2: what you do too, and because getting exhausted with that, 200 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 2: it exhausted with how much constant worry and work that takes. 201 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:15,559 Speaker 2: But she would always say that's why she got out 202 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 2: of bed in the morning, and that if you took 203 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:24,680 Speaker 2: that away, we probably wouldn't be happy. In quotes, you know, 204 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 2: it's really tricky because it's kind of counterintuitive. I think 205 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 2: the stuff that you think, if you got rid of that, 206 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 2: you'd be happy, but I don't think. No, if I 207 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 2: got rid of hustling really hard every day for everything, 208 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:38,839 Speaker 2: every job, everything that I write. 209 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 3: You know, I don't know who doesn't. 210 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:43,199 Speaker 4: I sit around and I sometimes make lists of people 211 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 4: that I think have it really easy, and then I 212 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 4: read it out to my boyfriend and he's like, no, 213 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 4: I don't believe it. 214 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 3: They had this thing. No, they wake up at four. 215 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 4: In the morning and they remember when they did that. No, 216 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:56,599 Speaker 4: they made that film. It was rubbish. You know. 217 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:59,599 Speaker 1: It is one of those things I think. I don't know. 218 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 2: Maybe I'm Indian, and I just think coming to this 219 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 2: country and my daughter's a first generation here and living 220 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 2: in a very white town on where I live in 221 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 2: near a village, opening a restaurant or it's just constantly 222 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 2: trying to prove myself. I think it's never going to 223 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:14,959 Speaker 2: be enough, you know, like you said, never going to 224 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 2: be enough. It's just everybody has to do it, so it's. 225 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 3: Not just me. Where was your restaurant in the Cotswolds. 226 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, South Gloucestershire. 227 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 3: Yes, God, your food is amazing. 228 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 4: But I think about that, like, did you in creating 229 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 4: that place, that incredible restaurant, did you think about where 230 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:34,079 Speaker 4: you'd come from? Like, was that part of the journey 231 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:36,679 Speaker 4: of opening it there? Did it add another level of 232 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:40,319 Speaker 4: I really really understand where I came from because I'm 233 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:44,679 Speaker 4: in a place that is so extraordinarily different from It's 234 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 4: not even London, you know London at least it's super multicultural, 235 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 4: and you know it wouldn't be such a big deal, 236 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 4: but that must have been such a big deal for you. 237 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 2: It was, but my daughter was six months old, meaning 238 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 2: and I really wanted to be where my kids are. 239 00:12:57,240 --> 00:12:59,679 Speaker 2: If something happened, I could just rush quickly. I want 240 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 2: to be around that. It affected my relationship with my kids, 241 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 2: my husband because I wanted to open there. It took 242 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 2: me nearly four years. The banks won't give me a loan. 243 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 2: I sold all my jewelry, all the gold jourally my 244 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 2: parents and my in laws had given me, sold all 245 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 2: the jewey to invest in it, and my husband helped 246 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 2: me along with it. But I think it was hard. 247 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 2: But I didn't want to do it anywhere else. But 248 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 2: people did support me, and people came from far places 249 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 2: to eat. 250 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 3: I know they did. 251 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:29,680 Speaker 4: I mean because it was incredible and it actually it 252 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:32,199 Speaker 4: wouldn't have mattered where it was, I don't think because 253 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 4: it was so incredibly delicious, and that must. 254 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 3: Have been amazingly satisfying for you to. 255 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 4: Have created something that was really hard to create in 256 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 4: a place that was local to you but not lots 257 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 4: of people, and then to see everybody coming from all 258 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 4: over the world. 259 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 2: I think sometimes people say, oh, passion, you do the passion, 260 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 2: because it's no. 261 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 1: You have to have the pushing you. I had to 262 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 1: be there. 263 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 2: I had to be continuously sleek, push myself and be 264 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 2: there like fourteen hours, killing myself. But I think the 265 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 2: restaurant made me what I am today. I would not 266 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 2: change anything about where I opened, and I think if 267 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 2: I didn't open it there, I wouldn't open anywhere else. 268 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 1: I think the restaurant is what Romi is today. 269 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 4: How amazing I mean clearly. I mean everything has grown 270 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 4: out of that. All of the books and all of 271 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 4: the rest of the cooking has grown out of what 272 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 4: began there. 273 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 2: Right in's a little seed and that was my foundation 274 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 2: and now it's all the branches. 275 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, what person, place, or experience most altered your life? 276 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 1: God, it's got to be Gundi. It's got to be 277 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 1: my husband. 278 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 2: I know it's People might think all that, but if 279 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 2: you have to understand Indian men. And I always wanted 280 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 2: a husband like my dad, who's really calm, really placid, 281 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 2: very helpful to my mom. My dad is fantastic and 282 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 2: I Gundhi was one of those people that really encouraged me. 283 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 2: You know how we met and eventually opening the restaurant. 284 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 2: Anything I sa said, he was there for me. He 285 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 2: changed my life for many things. Also, anywhere in the 286 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 2: world I go, he's always there to hold my hand 287 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 2: and say, even if he's here, I'm there. He's always there. 288 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 2: He's never said you can't do this and you can't 289 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 2: do that. He's always been very supportive behind me. And 290 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 2: a lot of people say, very se your husband. We 291 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 2: never see him. He's very shy. He doesn't look like 292 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 2: to go out anywhere. But he's always there for me. 293 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 2: I think if he didn't support the way when I 294 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 2: open the restaurant and looking after our daughters, I wouldn't 295 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 2: be where I am today. I think, you know, and 296 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 2: when some you know potwasher didn't turn up, he would 297 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 2: go to the restaurant and wash the dishes for me 298 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 2: in front of the house. Thing he has done, I 299 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 2: can't tell you how lucky I have. I've known him 300 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 2: for twenty seven years, and I think he's one of 301 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 2: those people that has really really changed my wheels on 302 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 2: many things. I think he keeps me grounded because I 303 00:15:57,520 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 2: am a very hyper person. He's a very calm. 304 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 4: Were you a chef when you met him? Were you 305 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 4: already a professional chef? 306 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 1: No? 307 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 2: I was not at that time here when we met, 308 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 2: because my mom had cancer when I was growing up 309 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 2: and doing my A levels. When I got to know 310 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 2: and I said to my dad, I want to be 311 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 2: a chef and he said no, because they're very handful 312 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 2: of women chefs in India and you just won't survive. 313 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 1: And in a way he was right. 314 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 2: I think when you have in you whatever you want 315 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 2: to do, you eventually when I met gun Deep and 316 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 2: I said, this is what I want to do and 317 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 2: I want to be in the hospitality. 318 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 3: Were you in India? Was this happening? 319 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 4: So? When your dad said no, there are too few chefs, 320 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 4: it's not a stable life. What did you then go 321 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 4: on to do? 322 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 1: I went on to do arts. 323 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 2: I did literature, history and philosophy and completely different from 324 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 2: what I did. And when I moved here and met 325 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 2: gun Deep and I said, I want to open my 326 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 2: own restaurant one day. We were like two in twenties, 327 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 2: and he looked at me and he thought, this woman 328 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 2: is going to do it. 329 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 5: So wait, how did you get from philosophy and the 330 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 5: arts in did you go to college in India? 331 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 3: Yeah? 332 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 4: So what brought you to England? And how did you 333 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 4: get from philosophy in the arts to I'm going to 334 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:07,440 Speaker 4: open a restaurant. 335 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 2: I came here when I got married, you know, mad 336 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 2: Gundi back in India, and then I just followed him. 337 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 1: And then you're married. 338 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 2: Here, so I think that kind of we met in 339 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 2: a wedding and then we've just followed each other and 340 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:20,719 Speaker 2: I knew he's a keeper. 341 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:22,919 Speaker 1: He's a keeper. I'm not going to let him go. 342 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 4: And how did you just never let go of that 343 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:29,639 Speaker 4: dream of having a restaurant, even when you were studying 344 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 4: other things which were interesting and great. Were you still 345 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:37,360 Speaker 4: harboring those feelings of I'm going to open a restaurant 346 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 4: one day? 347 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 2: Always, always, always, aways, always I wrote to different chefs. 348 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:45,199 Speaker 2: Micheline started chef's cookery schools men when I came here 349 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 2: in and I was like, don't give me money, don't 350 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:49,160 Speaker 2: pay me, I want to learn. 351 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:50,640 Speaker 1: I want to learn. 352 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 2: All the techniques. Everything up front of the house is 353 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 2: very important. Everything little detail about restaurant is not just 354 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 2: about cooking. And a lot of the chefs did reply, 355 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 2: and a lot of the cookery school did and didn't 356 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 2: pay me. 357 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 1: But it was okay. 358 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 2: I was prepared to do things that I could learn, 359 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 2: the techniques, the method, how it's done. I think you 360 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 2: have to have that and you have to learn from people. 361 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:14,719 Speaker 4: Who was the first chef who really taught you beyond 362 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 4: your mother and back home. 363 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 2: Chef Manjid Gil who is in India. He was executive 364 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 2: chefs of ITC in India and I always followed his vision. 365 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 1: He used to be on television as well. 366 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:30,920 Speaker 2: And I wrote to him from here that I want 367 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 2: to learn from you, and he did reply. Those times, 368 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 2: calling India was so expensive, so I used to beautifully 369 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:41,440 Speaker 2: write letters and I got and replied back and he said, yes, 370 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 2: I would love to teach you. I love to meet you. 371 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 2: He's my mentor and he still guides. 372 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 3: Wow. 373 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's like you know, he's one of the I 374 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 2: never met him, and I wrote to him and then 375 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 2: I also should really give credit to Utule culture as 376 00:18:57,160 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 2: amazing restaurants he was the first Mission Chef. 377 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 3: Is it the first mission to start Indian restaurant? 378 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 1: And he really helped me to be on TV. 379 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:08,360 Speaker 2: And he was doing this Master Chef in his restaurant 380 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 2: and he said, I really like Romi to be on 381 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:14,440 Speaker 2: it as a guest judge. And my restaurant has just opened. 382 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 2: He was really really encouraging. He said, Romey has opened 383 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 2: this restaurant. She's really feisty, and she's really good at 384 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 2: what she does. 385 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 1: She knows the food. 386 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 2: And you know, I always always mentioned the couple of 387 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 2: people that really pushed me in my life. I think 388 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 2: you should never forget those people. They're really important. People 389 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 2: come in your life that really encourage you. He was 390 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 2: the one who put intelligence and restless history. It's because 391 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 2: of our all. And you know, Ali like meeting you 392 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 2: talking about your book on Radio four, I know was incredible. 393 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:48,159 Speaker 4: It's an amazing thing that all of these things that 394 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 4: connect us, like the appreciation of each other's art. I 395 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:55,200 Speaker 4: wish it happened more. I love it you reaching out 396 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:57,160 Speaker 4: to tell me that you love my book, or then 397 00:19:57,280 --> 00:20:00,119 Speaker 4: all my friends hearing you on Radio food h that 398 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:03,119 Speaker 4: they've listened to forever, or me coming to eat in 399 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 4: your pop up and bringing my friend and now her 400 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:09,399 Speaker 4: having your cookery books, and now us making your food together. 401 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 4: Like there's such a beautiful exchange that I think it's 402 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:15,640 Speaker 4: lost or we forget it. In all of the hardship 403 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:17,439 Speaker 4: and the awfulness that is happening in the world, we 404 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 4: forget there are these extraordinary moments. 405 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 3: Where we lift each other up. 406 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 4: Whether it's a mentor helping you to begin what's a 407 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 4: pretty fantastic journey on television that you're so good on 408 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:30,679 Speaker 4: TV and on the radio, or I don't know, like 409 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:32,640 Speaker 4: people hearing about my book from you. 410 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 3: I love that exchange. 411 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 4: I think it's so important. You're the person I've wanted 412 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 4: to ask this question to more than anybody else. 413 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:54,399 Speaker 3: Ever, what would be your last meal? 414 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:58,639 Speaker 1: My last meal? I wish one day I'd take you 415 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:00,679 Speaker 1: to India. You have to travel with me. 416 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:04,400 Speaker 3: I have never been. I will come with you, I think, because. 417 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 2: I write for New York Times and many other publications 418 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:11,400 Speaker 2: and things, I put food and travel together. So I 419 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:15,160 Speaker 2: lost my mom in twenty nineteen and I was going 420 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:19,399 Speaker 2: to write an article for in Himachal Pradesh. I was 421 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:22,159 Speaker 2: going to take my mom on that journey. Just before 422 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 2: they commissioned me this article and suddenly my mom passed 423 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:27,679 Speaker 2: away in February and I had to go back to 424 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:30,400 Speaker 2: India to write the article in March, and I said 425 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:32,919 Speaker 2: to my editor, is there anyway I can take my 426 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:35,879 Speaker 2: dad on a journey. I've lost my mom. I'm still 427 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 2: grieving and my dad is We are grieving in two 428 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:41,879 Speaker 2: different ways. Dad, who's been with my mom for fifty 429 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 2: two years and I have just lost her. And she said, O, yes, 430 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 2: just take your dad going this journey together and. 431 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:49,639 Speaker 1: See what you find. 432 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:53,199 Speaker 2: And last day off my trip, I was going to 433 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 2: do this paragliding and just before paragliding, my dad was 434 00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 2: really nervous of. 435 00:21:58,040 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 1: Me doing it. You know, I'm crazy and do all 436 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 1: this things. And so Dad, are you hungry? He said yes? 437 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 2: And we found this tabo which is a roadside food 438 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:09,919 Speaker 2: eatering and I saw so many people queuing there and 439 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 2: I said, it's only vegetarian and we stopped there. Maybe 440 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 2: I had the most amazing vegetarian feast. 441 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:22,439 Speaker 1: I could have Italian. It's so cheap. That will be 442 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 1: my last meal. 443 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 2: It was curry chowol curdi is like a yogurt dish 444 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 2: made with crumb flower, which is black chickpa flower, not 445 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:33,119 Speaker 2: the chickpi flower people. I think it's crumb flower, and 446 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 2: we have these pecoras in it. Then kidney beans is 447 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:39,880 Speaker 2: a char which is a pickle tandoi rotti and dhal 448 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 2: mcknee which is dull, and all these vegetarian feasts. 449 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 1: My moutha is still watering. 450 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 2: I know I cook and eat everything, but for me, 451 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 2: vegetarian food is soulful because I grew up as a 452 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 2: Punjabi eating a lot of vegetarian food, and we are 453 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 2: naturally plant based. We are naturally vegetarian. We aren't even thinking, 454 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:01,120 Speaker 2: so I think that would be my mind. 455 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:06,359 Speaker 4: You wow, oh my god, I'm so hungry right now 456 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:07,639 Speaker 4: and I want your food. 457 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 1: I have to come and cook for you. 458 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 3: Oh my god, We're going to have to figure that out. 459 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 4: I'm just imagining black chicky flour and I'm imagining percoras. 460 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:17,160 Speaker 3: So do you think that. 461 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 4: It was the fact that you're there with your dad, 462 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:24,640 Speaker 4: your mama's gone, You're on this journey together, and I'm 463 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 4: sure that it was exquisitely deliciously cooked. But do you 464 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 4: think it was also the connection that this is food 465 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:33,160 Speaker 4: from your childhood and that they're in this moment, that 466 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 4: that food, that the idea of the connection to your 467 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 4: past is what makes this explode, because you must have 468 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 4: eaten a thousand pcoras a thousand beautiful delicious vegetarian dishes, 469 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 4: but like at that moment in your life, in your 470 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 4: dad's life, to eat that delicious food quite unexpectedly, I. 471 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:54,920 Speaker 2: Imagine it was, and we were just stared at each 472 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 2: other dipping in those blood breads pot. It was just 473 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 2: I think my father found and happiness in a sense 474 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 2: that he was with me and it was comforting the 475 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 2: food that my mom would cook. 476 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:08,680 Speaker 1: As well, similar food. 477 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 2: I think it was where the comfort of us being 478 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 2: together was just literally six weeks ago lost Mom and 479 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 2: we're together eating the food that mom would cook. I 480 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 2: think that's why probably, like you said, very very true. 481 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 3: Wow, gosh, can we go one day? 482 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 4: Can we take trains and go from the Punjab all 483 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:31,160 Speaker 4: the way down to Carol. 484 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 1: I hold you to that. We will do that. 485 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 4: I've dreamed of that to start in the Punjab where 486 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 4: my mother traveled all through India all her life, just 487 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,119 Speaker 4: dreamed of making that journey. So maybe we should do that, 488 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 4: and maybe we should make a TV show out of it. 489 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 1: Two women on long train journey in India. 490 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,639 Speaker 4: Two women on a long train journey in India. By 491 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 4: the way, that is a really good time long, but 492 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 4: that's what the journey would be. 493 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 3: I don't think it would be a hard sell, to 494 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 3: tell you the truth. I think it would be amazing. 495 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 4: You're an angel I so look forward to two women 496 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 4: on a long train journey in India, and to seeing 497 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 4: you again in person, and to eating your extraordinary food. 498 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,880 Speaker 4: You know your cookbooks keep me company, so you're a germ. 499 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 2: Thank you so much, thank you for having mea. 500 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:19,919 Speaker 5: Okay, dear audience, this is the last episode for a 501 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 5: little mini break, if you will. We'll be back in 502 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 5: a few months with the second half of season three 503 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:30,879 Speaker 5: of Mini Questions, So until then, keep looking for the 504 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 5: answers and asking the good questions. 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