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Speaker 1: Loka Tora Radio is a radiophonic novella.

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Speaker 2: Which is just a very extra way of saying a podcast.

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Speaker 1: I'm diosa m and I am Mala Munjos. Lokatra Radio

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Speaker 1: is yr Brima's favorite podcast, hosted by us Mala and Viosa.

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Speaker 2: We're two ig friends turned podcast partners, breaking down pop culture, feminism,

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Speaker 2: sexual wellness, and offering fresh takes on trending topics through

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Speaker 2: nuanced interviews with up and coming LATINX creatives.

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Speaker 1: Known as Las Lokatas, Las Mammis of Myth and Bullshit

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Speaker 1: and Las Bocas Prosas. We were podcasting independently since twenty sixteen,

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Speaker 1: but joined iHeartMedia's Microtura network in twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 2: This year, we're continuing to share stories from the LATINX community.

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Speaker 2: Barto el Mundo.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to season eight.

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Speaker 2: Are you listening?

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Speaker 1: O la la lokamot Is, Welcome to season eight of

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Speaker 1: Loka Dora Radio. I'm Viosa and I'm Mala. You're tuning

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Speaker 1: in to Capitolo Sientos one sixty nine.

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Speaker 2: Last time on locat Dora Radio, we spoke with Gloria

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Speaker 2: Osborne Sheiler about setting Boundaries. Listen to our five part

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Speaker 2: mental health mini series, leave us a review, and share

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Speaker 2: with a friend.

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Speaker 1: So today we're using this episode to catch up with

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Speaker 1: y'all where mid August summer is ending soon ish follows

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Speaker 1: around the corner, and so we just wanted to talk

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Speaker 1: about what we went up to this summer and what

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Speaker 1: the heck is going on in the world, y'all, because

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Speaker 1: there's hurricanes, there's earthquakes, fires, Like, what is happening?

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Speaker 2: Yes, we just survived heur a quake. We got a

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Speaker 2: hurricane update, and then we got an earthquake warning, and

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Speaker 2: Dodger Stadium and Compton. There's been flooding all over where

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Speaker 2: I'm at. It was kind of light, kind of light rain.

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Speaker 2: You know, how were things in your neck of the woods.

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Speaker 1: So for anyone listening outside of California or the US,

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Speaker 1: of global collapse, of climate change, of everything, and so

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Speaker 1: for me, it was raining pretty hard, but it felt like,

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Speaker 1: intense raining, raining all day and Angelina's just really don't

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Speaker 2: and it was all because of the flooding, which is valid.

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Speaker 1: So aside from this midsummer storm, Mala, I know you

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Speaker 2: Yes, it's been honestly a very eventful summer, a really

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Speaker 2: So shout out Marcella Aruguao who had me perform on

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Speaker 1: think that also this process has also been easier because

428
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Speaker 1: it's somewhat of a narrative hybrid show. This process is

429
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Speaker 1: easier because I've gone to grad school, because I know

430
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Speaker 1: what it means to write a narrative script, shout out

431
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Speaker 1: willa you know, and and just assemble a show in

432
00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:01,480
Speaker 1: a different way. So I'm really grateful that I had

433
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Speaker 1: the experience to get the degree. And that was the

434
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Speaker 1: whole point of going to grad school, Like I not

435
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 1: for the sake of going to grad school, but because

436
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,120
Speaker 1: I wanted us to be able to expand the type

437
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,480
Speaker 1: of shows that we were making. And I started grad

438
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:17,560
Speaker 1: school right before we signed look At with iHeart, and

439
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:20,919
Speaker 1: so it just you know, the path that you're supposed

440
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:23,639
Speaker 1: to be on, Like everything aligns the way it's supposed to.

441
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like there's you've brought in like these tools for

442
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:36,560
Speaker 2: organization and for like developing the pilot and the types

443
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:39,720
Speaker 2: of questions to ask and how to format things. We

444
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:44,480
Speaker 2: also are working with Stephanie Franco. We have a producer

445
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:48,239
Speaker 2: working with us to help bring the ideas together and

446
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:51,200
Speaker 2: the research and the sound and she edits and so

447
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:55,000
Speaker 2: the whole the whole thing is different. And also I

448
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,960
Speaker 2: think our relationships, like the people that we can reach

449
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Speaker 2: out to and talk to to to be involved in

450
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 2: the project and work on the project. Like, yeah, it's

451
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 2: a totally different place than in twenty sixteen.

452
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Speaker 1: Yeah, And speaking of you know, just moving us along,

453
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Speaker 1: We recently had a live show with Michael Dura and

454
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:20,440
Speaker 1: we celebrated their second year anniversary, their second birthday, and

455
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Speaker 1: it was also coincidentally had been about five years since

456
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Speaker 1: we had our first Loka Do a Live, So shout

457
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 1: out to you if you're listening and you were at

458
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:31,920
Speaker 1: the very first one. And what was so special about

459
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 1: Loka doa Live in twenty eighteen is that we had

460
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Speaker 1: Curly and Maya as our guest for the live show

461
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:43,399
Speaker 1: and they also now have their own podcast with Michael

462
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:47,240
Speaker 1: Tura and Sono called The Super Secret Besties Club, and

463
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:51,080
Speaker 1: they were also had their own live recording at the

464
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Speaker 1: show at the Michael Durda Anniversary show.

465
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Speaker 2: Yes, and one of the big differences between our logato

466
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Speaker 2: I Live in twenty eighteen and the two year show

467
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 2: that we just performed at it was a clean It

468
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:07,880
Speaker 2: was a clean show. So like in twenty eighteen, we're

469
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:11,959
Speaker 2: talking about sex and drugs and all kinds of things.

470
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Speaker 1: Face masks, Yes, I remember there was someone you said

471
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Speaker 1: that someone recommended to you.

472
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Speaker 2: Yeah, one of my former I'll tell the story right now.

473
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 2: I had a former coworker who said that her skincare

474
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Speaker 2: secret was like letting her partner ejaculate on her face. Great, fabulous,

475
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:36,880
Speaker 2: she says, But the secret is you got to leave

476
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:39,439
Speaker 2: it on overnight and you will wake up with the

477
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Speaker 2: smoothest skin you've ever had. It's like injecting stem cells

478
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Speaker 2: into your poor So we were having those types of

479
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Speaker 2: conversations at look. I thought I Live in twenty eighteen.

480
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Speaker 2: But the Michael Doua to Your Anniversary live event it

481
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Speaker 2: was at the iHeart Theater in Burbank, which we were

482
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Speaker 2: told while we were there. Backstage is actually the former

483
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:06,920
Speaker 2: studio that Jay Leno would shoot the Tonight Show, which

484
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:11,159
Speaker 2: is very cool, very exciting over in Burbank. But this

485
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 2: event was way more wholesome and family friendly than our

486
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 2: twenty eighteen show because it was sponsored by Kellogg's, you know, cereal,

487
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 2: just wholesome, all American, and so we like, we're kind

488
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,719
Speaker 2: of prepped, you know, to keep it family friendly. So

489
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:29,400
Speaker 2: we talked about wholesome things about basically our journey as

490
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,479
Speaker 2: lok at O and podcasting through different eras in our lives.

491
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Speaker 2: And that live recording is actually going to be available

492
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 2: as a look at thot Our radio podcast episode that

493
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:40,960
Speaker 2: you can stream and listen to.

494
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Speaker 1: Yes, that'll be coming out in September. And I think

495
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 1: also just the biggest difference for us is that we

496
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 1: showed up that day as talent. We were prepped, we

497
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 1: had our material, we had our little cue cards, we

498
00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 1: knew what we were talking about, but we just got

499
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 1: to show up and be present, do our thing, and

500
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:06,479
Speaker 1: then enjoy the rest of the show. Whereas look at

501
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 1: that alive in the past if you've ever been, we

502
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 1: were building sets. We were working around the clock the

503
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 1: week of the show to deliver a variety show. It

504
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 1: wasn't just Mal and I talking. We were in, we

505
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 1: were interview guests, we would play their material. This is

506
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 1: also when we started introducing the skits and so it

507
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 1: was a whole production for lok at A Live just

508
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 1: as it was for Michael Dura. The difference was that

509
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 1: we were the ones doing everything. We would produce and

510
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 1: host the live show from top to bottom and then

511
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 1: party until two am afterwards, which you know could only

512
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 1: happen in our early twenties because good god, I cannot

513
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 1: do that now.

514
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Speaker 2: Yeah. We also at our first look at that Alive

515
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 2: a Podcast party, DJ Sizzle played uh and DJ Sizzle

516
00:29:55,760 --> 00:30:00,040
Speaker 2: also played at iHeart Theater for the Michael Dura To

517
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Speaker 2: to Your Anniversary event. So it was kind of wild

518
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 2: because it's like, wow, do we know how to curate

519
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 2: some talent or what like this little group we were

520
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:11,719
Speaker 2: at Civic Center Studio, self producing, self funding, selling our

521
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 2: little tickets for five dollars.

522
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Speaker 1: Can't believe it, but.

523
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Speaker 2: That same lineup is here at the Michael Dura to

524
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Speaker 2: Your Anniversary event. In addition to Cheeky's of the Cheeky's

525
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 2: and Chill podcasts, who was the headliner of the evening

526
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 2: and did her thing and answered audience questions. But it's

527
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Speaker 2: just like so cool to think that this little cluster,

528
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Speaker 2: how we've just sort of ended up in the same

529
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 2: network just because we've been doing it. We've been around

530
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Speaker 2: and showing up. Also, Robert Roberto, who's our hair and

531
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Speaker 2: makeup artist who has been doing our hair and makeup

532
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 2: for our shoots and our shows since the beginning, was

533
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Speaker 2: also there with us at the Michael Dura to Your Anniversary,

534
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Speaker 2: So it was just really special.

535
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 1: It was, and where Robert joined our team in twenty nineteen.

536
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 1: I think maybe one of their first events that they

537
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 1: did for us was the Tecla Awards, where we didn't

538
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 1: a breakout Creator of the Year, but we were nominated,

539
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 1: which was an honor. And I want to say that

540
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 1: was one of the first times in twenty nineteen is

541
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 1: when we started working, but that was I remember being

542
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 1: one of the first events along. Like he did the

543
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 1: when we were on the cover of Mint magazine it's

544
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 1: like a digital magazine. He did our our makeup then,

545
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Speaker 1: and so he's just been along the ride with us

546
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Speaker 1: since twenty nineteen. So and Robert and I went to

547
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Speaker 1: middle school together. I've known Robert my entire life at

548
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Speaker 1: this point, and he was living in Seattle and so

549
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 1: when he moved back to LA that's when he really

550
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Speaker 1: joined the team in twenty nineteen.

551
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and he we don't work. We don't really work

552
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 2: with anybody else. For look, I thought I related hair

553
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 2: and makeup and Robert does it all. So yeah, it's

554
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 2: just really fun. And make sure you guys tune in

555
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 2: when that episode is published. Yeah.

556
00:31:56,920 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 1: Now moving on, because we were doing our miniseries, we

557
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 1: couldn't really talk about anything pop culture, and so we

558
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 1: feel like there are some things that are overdue that

559
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 1: we want to talk about today. For one, let me

560
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Speaker 1: just say I went to the gottle G concert this

561
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Speaker 1: past weekend. I went to the Rose Bowl Friday night.

562
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Speaker 1: And I've been doing a lot of concerts this summer,

563
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 1: which has been so fun. I love live music and

564
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 1: I love outdoor venues. I saw Romeo Santos in June.

565
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 1: I saw Caakuba at the Hollywood Bowl and Gorla Morrison

566
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Speaker 1: and Latigre actually so throwback there, like on a reunion tour.

567
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Speaker 1: And then I went to the gottle G show and

568
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 1: so that was obviously mainstream show. I became a fan

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Speaker 1: of gottle G when she released her past album manyana S.

570
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Speaker 1: It's such a really fun like healing but also like

571
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Speaker 1: some party, fun music, and so I went. Never thought

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Speaker 1: that I'd go to a gottle G concert, but my

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Speaker 1: friend Sulky invited me. She had an extra ticket, and

574
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Speaker 1: so I went. And let me just say that the

575
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Speaker 1: vibes were not there. Now, let me just say it,

576
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Speaker 1: because I don't know if it's just that I got there.

577
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Speaker 1: We got there kind of late, probably later than we should.

578
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Speaker 1: This is the first time I've experienced like like merch

579
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 1: like being such a big part of the show and

580
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 1: the production. I'm hearing like Beyonce's kind of similar. So

581
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Speaker 1: this concert was kind of a practice run for the

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Speaker 1: Renaissance tour that we're Mal and I are both going to,

583
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Speaker 1: and so I've never got into a concert three hours early,

584
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Speaker 1: so I'm like seven thirty were good. No, it was

585
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Speaker 1: so chaotic, so chaotic to get in. People were pushing

586
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Speaker 1: like you can deligate at the rules bowls. It was

587
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 1: very dirty, like already at the beginning of the show,

588
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Speaker 1: people were really drunk already by eight o'clock, people were

589
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Speaker 1: shoving people were pushing, like people were fighting over seats,

590
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 1: like seats were getting like taken, people were in the

591
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 1: wrong seats, like it was wild. I've never gone through

592
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 1: much so much just to get to my seat. So

593
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 1: the concert itself was very fun. She put on a

594
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Speaker 1: great show. It was very much giving me, you know,

595
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 1: pop star where she had like well coordinated dance routines

596
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 1: like remember I remember, like you know, Britney Spears, Beyonce

597
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 1: Destiny's Child concerts where the dancers would get like a

598
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Speaker 1: spotlight and they do their own thing, and it's just

599
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 1: like such a fun way to see the rest of

600
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Speaker 1: the talented crew. And she also had like a little

601
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Speaker 1: short film that played throughout. It was a full production,

602
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 1: and so it really gave me, i think, insight into

603
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 1: her artistry, which I you know, since I'm a newer fan,

604
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Speaker 1: I like don't come for me. Never really like appreciated it.

605
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Speaker 1: But it was an experience. I went through a lot

606
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Speaker 1: that for and the vibes were not there, and then

607
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 1: I saw Saturday people were fighting, like yeah, like what

608
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 1: is I don't know, is it the crowd, is it

609
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 1: her family's I don't know, girl, But it was like

610
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 1: too much and Silky was like, girl, I cannot fight,

611
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Speaker 1: and I was like, uh. She was like, I'll start crying.

612
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Speaker 1: And I'm like, I'm not a big I'm not a

613
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Speaker 1: good backup girl, Like I probably can't fight either. Like

614
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 1: so we were both like, okay, let's just you know,

615
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:28,879
Speaker 1: let's do our own thing and people, let's just get

616
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Speaker 1: safely like and we were both so sober because just

617
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 1: to get a drink was intense and people were like

618
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Speaker 1: passed out on the side of the road. And I

619
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 1: don't know for me, like I love to have a cocktail,

620
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Speaker 1: I love to drink obviously, I love to have fun.

621
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Speaker 1: But for me, I've never wanted to experience a concert

622
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 1: drunk because like, the odds of you not remembering are

623
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Speaker 1: pretty high.

624
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:51,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, and not at the Rose Bowl, Not at the

625
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Speaker 2: Rose Bowl of all places. You texted me and you

626
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 2: were like, people are barefoot.

627
00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 1: People were barefoot walking miles like barefoot. It was bascos everywhere,

628
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Speaker 1: and I was very upset. I was very offended. Well,

629
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 1: I was like, why put the sneakers on, girl, That's

630
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,280
Speaker 1: why we don't wear block, That's why we don't wear heels.

631
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Speaker 1: We don't wear heels to the Rose Bowl. We can't.

632
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 2: No, they've never they've never been to the Rose Bowl. No,

633
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 2: they've never been.

634
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:25,720
Speaker 1: It was an experience, to say the least. So also

635
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 1: checking in like Twitter, Twitter is no longer Twitter, It's

636
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 1: not x rip.

637
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 2: And we've been tracking the slow, excruciating death of Twitter

638
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 2: for a couple seasons now, because Twitter has been slowly

639
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 2: deteriorating for a long time, but with Elon Musk takeover,

640
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:49,799
Speaker 2: the name change to x just the overall decline in

641
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 2: quality on the app, Like I haven't logged on in

642
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 2: a couple months, I want to say, or I haven't

643
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 2: tweeted at least I haven't been on there, and and

644
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 2: we're on threads now, but also like not really.

645
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was on Threads like the first two weeks

646
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:10,279
Speaker 1: and then it's still like I think it's a good alternative,

647
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 1: don't get me wrong. I just with the downfall of Twitter,

648
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 1: the demise notes now X right, it has given me

649
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,840
Speaker 1: that the room to be on one less social media app,

650
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 1: and so I'm not necessarily looking to replace it with

651
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:29,399
Speaker 1: something else like Threads. Maybe I will commit to it,

652
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 1: being to being on it more because I am more

653
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:34,880
Speaker 1: of an it girly as I'm a millennial, right, but

654
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 1: it just unlisting to be on is actually kind of

655
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 1: great for me right now.

656
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:43,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I feel like what the element that Threads

657
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:49,319
Speaker 2: is missing is each of our Twitter experiences has been

658
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 2: carefully crafted over the course of many years and who

659
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:57,279
Speaker 2: we follow and our settings and all that stuff, and

660
00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 2: who follows us. And you can't just get that by

661
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:05,879
Speaker 2: like automatically following people Like Instagram people are not necessarily

662
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 2: the people you want to follow on Twitter.

663
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 1: It doesn't translate, no, Like there are things that I

664
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 1: would tweet on Twitter that I would never post on Instagram,

665
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 1: right I know, Like, and I feel like for me,

666
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 1: Threads has that same feeling, like I wouldn't put this

667
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 1: on Threads that's so linked to Instagram because Twitter people

668
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:28,800
Speaker 1: were our own people, like it's its own little digital community.

669
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 1: It's kind of unhinged. It's kind of a sad girl,

670
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 1: It's kind of it's very like neurotic, neurotic, unhinged, like

671
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 1: I said. But then there's also really great discourse that

672
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 1: happened over the years, you know, like led to political uprisings,

673
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 1: Like it was a very valuable tool, which I also

674
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 1: feel like why Elon Musk was very much like we

675
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 1: got to take this down because the people are getting

676
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:59,839
Speaker 1: like too progressive or he would say too like snowflaky

677
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 1: or what have you.

678
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 2: But I don't know.

679
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 1: I just think there was intentionally, you know, wanted the

680
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 1: app to collapse instead of preserving like what took decades

681
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 1: to build.

682
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 2: He's he's really in that vein of like weird anti progressivism,

683
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 2: but he also sort of pairs that with this weird

684
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 2: like sci fi obsession. But it's and then he like

685
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:32,320
Speaker 2: is proud boyish at the same time, he also fancies

686
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 2: himself like a comedian, and so it's just like a

687
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:38,799
Speaker 2: horrible mix of elements and like it's a really good

688
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:43,319
Speaker 2: way to tank a platform. And that's that is what

689
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 2: has happened. So Rip will probably never talk about Twitter again.

690
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 2: He used to be very Twitter heavy as a podcast. Yeah,

691
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 2: no more.

692
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 1: It's no longer Twitter even it's just X, which is

693
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:58,879
Speaker 1: so ex weird to say, I'm on X.

694
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 2: What is that?

695
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:01,799
Speaker 1: What does that even mean?

696
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:05,439
Speaker 2: It's also very unoriginal, like Twitter was an original name.

697
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:08,280
Speaker 2: The cute little bird. You know, you're setting a tweet.

698
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 2: The branding is perfect. X is like oh X games,

699
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:17,759
Speaker 2: X marks the spot, triple X. You know double X

700
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:22,440
Speaker 2: that like it's X is used done, Like it's so odd,

701
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 2: like to give it something so generic after it was

702
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 2: something so specific. I don't know.

703
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, an intentional downfall, I feel, and yeah,

704
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 1: I don't know. As the times change, like do we

705
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:41,719
Speaker 1: find ourselves on TikTok more, do we? I do think

706
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 1: we've been talking about it more in the way that

707
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:47,479
Speaker 1: we used to talk about Twitter, in terms of maybe

708
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 1: where we've get an info. I think. I do think though,

709
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:53,319
Speaker 1: that we've talked about TikTok in ways of like how

710
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:58,240
Speaker 1: do we bust this misinformation or disinformation? Whereas in Twitter

711
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, this person said something really cool and

712
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 1: it made us think about this, so now we're going

713
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:05,280
Speaker 1: to do a whole episode about it. And I feel

714
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 1: like for TikTok, we've been like, ooh, someone said this

715
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 1: and that's not all right, that's not accurate, So we're

716
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 1: going to do an episode on it.

717
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 2: Oh totally, totally. I feel like, you know, Twitter is

718
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 2: for the writers, you know, and so as we know,

719
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:23,439
Speaker 2: lots of journalists, lots of writers, lots of people who

720
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 2: are thinking tweeting out quick quick thoughts, you know, or

721
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 2: breaking news, lots of publications on there, and I think

722
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:38,359
Speaker 2: on TikTok, those same people are on TikTok, but it's

723
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 2: not their element. Their element is writing, not being on

724
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:46,360
Speaker 2: camera or creating videos or utilizing dance or music or sound.

725
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:50,360
Speaker 2: You know. Like it's just different. And so I think

726
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 2: I think that, like the people we were loving on

727
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 2: Twitter are not those skills are not crossing over onto

728
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:03,359
Speaker 2: the short video platform, you know. So I think like

729
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 2: it's just a whole different crop of creatives because it's

730
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 2: a whole different skill set. It's like younger people are

731
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 2: thriving on there, people who like come from YouTube or

732
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 2: like you know, Vine, or folks who like are on

733
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 2: Twitch and who have been like streaming, you know. Like

734
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 2: so yeah that I I just it just completely changes

735
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:29,359
Speaker 2: the experience and who does well on there. I think

736
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 2: you can learn. I think you can definitely learn, and

737
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:35,319
Speaker 2: you can create something new that can pop off. But

738
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 2: Twitter has been around for years and TikTok is still

739
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 2: like a relatively young platform, even though at this point

740
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 2: it has also been around for a few years.

741
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, totally. So, I mean, who knows what happens next

742
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 1: with the platforms, Like everything has its heyday. I don't

743
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 1: see Instagram necessarily falling off yet, but I know that

744
00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 1: people are more, at least in my experience, heard like

745
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 1: people are more on TikTok than Instagram now, But I

746
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 1: don't know. I still find I think it's like my

747
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 1: little comfort platform, even though it's terrible. It's just like

748
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:12,319
Speaker 1: I would rather be on this than learn something new.

749
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:14,719
Speaker 1: And I know that that shows my age. But I've

750
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 1: been trying to do TikTok and I just don't have

751
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:21,439
Speaker 1: it in me. Well, like I've been saying for years now,

752
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 1: I just don't have it in me to start a

753
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 1: new platform and be active on it. I like watching

754
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 1: people on TikTok. I do like I do watch videos,

755
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 1: and my for you page is like beauty and running

756
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 1: and books and all those things, right, But in terms

757
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 1: of creating videos, like it's I haven't posted in a

758
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 1: couple of months.

759
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like hard to keep up with and you

760
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 2: got to you have to feel like for me, it's

761
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 2: like do I feel camera ready? Like do I feel

762
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 2: like I want to put this on camera?

763
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,840
Speaker 1: That's the millennial in US, because the people on TikTok

764
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:56,359
Speaker 1: are posting like right now, you and I were on zoom.

765
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 1: We're not in the studio because of the storm and

766
00:43:58,239 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 1: it's sunny out.

767
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:00,800
Speaker 2: Right, it's so so any and beautiful.

768
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 1: We're like fairly casual, right, I me personally would not

769
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 1: be on video right now on to make a TikTok.

770
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 1: I haven't washed my hair and days like, I'm not

771
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:12,320
Speaker 1: doing that. But I also think that that's but people

772
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:14,439
Speaker 1: do it anyway and it works for them. But that's

773
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 1: like the millennial in US because we're like we got

774
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 1: to be camera ready. That's like the artist's high production

775
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:21,880
Speaker 1: in US. We got to be camera ready.

776
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:27,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred percent. So yeah, you know, find us

777
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 2: on Instagram at look at thora Underscore Radio.

778
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:36,239
Speaker 1: We're still on there. And just to wrap up our

779
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 1: like hefty convo today, I just wanted to share that

780
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 1: my thirtieth birthday is in October. It's coming up, so

781
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 1: I'm like beginning the preparation and I have set like

782
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:51,799
Speaker 1: a goal list for myself of some things that I

783
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:54,879
Speaker 1: want to do like before I turn thirty, and they're

784
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:58,400
Speaker 1: just all personal things. It's nothing like go on a

785
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:00,160
Speaker 1: trip or whatever. I mean, we will be go going

786
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 1: on a thirtieth birthday trip, but it's nothing like bucket list.

787
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:06,320
Speaker 1: It's more like I've always wanted to get a second

788
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:10,319
Speaker 1: ear piercing, and I've been putting it off. I like

789
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:11,840
Speaker 1: always say like, oh, I'm gonna go do that, and

790
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, Okay, Now I have my window because

791
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:16,800
Speaker 1: I want like a double years because my mom wouldn't

792
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 1: let me get it because she was like, no, no,

793
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:21,399
Speaker 1: you have to wait till you're older. So I'm gonna

794
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 1: be thirty, so I'm gonna do it, right.

795
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 2: Is this old enough?

796
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:24,800
Speaker 1: Mom?

797
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 2: Old enough?

798
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 1: I've been wanting to get a couple new tattoo pieces,

799
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:34,279
Speaker 1: so I've also put that in, like let's do this

800
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 1: before we turn thirty, and just some like other maintenance things.

801
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 1: Let I want to start the new year, my new year,

802
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:44,439
Speaker 1: with a new look, and so I'm going to stay

803
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 1: in the red family, but I'm thinking like new haircut,

804
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:50,319
Speaker 1: new like shade, and you know, we'll see in some

805
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 1: other things. But it's happening. I'm exiting twenty nine. I

806
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:58,399
Speaker 1: can't believe it. I'm really excited. And we have Mile

807
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:00,959
Speaker 1: and I are going on a trip together, yes, which

808
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 1: we'll share more as it approaches, but just really excited

809
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:06,240
Speaker 1: for this new decade.

810
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 2: Oh my God, me too. It's all very exciting. It's

811
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:11,400
Speaker 2: all going to be super fun. I can't wait to

812
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:16,399
Speaker 2: celebrate you. And you're thirtieth excited for the trip. And

813
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 2: I love when you switch up your hair. You're always

814
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 2: like you're you're always playing with color and cut and

815
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 2: that's always very fun.

816
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:27,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, I am. You know, It's taken me a long

817
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 1: time to let go of my attachment to my hair.

818
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 1: I mean, I've been on this journey for actually most

819
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 1: of this most of my twenties, this decade of not

820
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 1: holding so much beauty attachment and like value in my

821
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 1: long hair. One of my formative relationships, this ex you know,

822
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 1: was very much would always say like, oh, pretty girls

823
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 1: have long hair. And it took me a really long

824
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:57,280
Speaker 1: time to unlearn that because it became an insecurity of mine.

825
00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 1: And so when I was no longer with this person,

826
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:04,400
Speaker 1: you know, that was when I did my first BOB.

827
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:07,479
Speaker 1: I was like twenty years old, and like since then,

828
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 1: like I've really let go of like for me, like

829
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 1: it's just my hair. I can cut it, I can diet,

830
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 1: it'll grow, I die it back, it doesn't work, it's fine,

831
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 1: I let it go. And so I you know, I

832
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 1: am bringing that energy also for your the new decade

833
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 1: for year thirty. Love it.

834
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 2: That's a great way to bring in thirty. Yeah, a

835
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 2: great way to set off the fall and celebrate yourself.

836
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 2: I'm very excited.

837
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:43,760
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838
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