1 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. 2 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:11,040 Speaker 2: Going home for the holidays can be more than just 3 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 2: about seeing your family. It can be about finding your roots. 4 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:18,799 Speaker 1: For some that connection that's wherever it leaves that person 5 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:23,600 Speaker 1: you know who have been struggling of years to know 6 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: where do I come from? Why am I of Thescala? 7 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 1: Where could my great great grandparents have come from? 8 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 2: But it can also be an excuse for many to 9 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 2: have fun. What's known as Debty December has grown into 10 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 2: a huge party, with many traveling from all over the world, 11 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 2: bringing money and boosting some local economies. 12 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 1: And to to leg city to Lega city. 13 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 2: On today's episode of The Next Africa Podcast, we'll ask 14 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 2: whether the Big December event is giving struggling economies and 15 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 2: places like Nigeria and Ghana the boost they actually need, 16 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 2: or just making things tougher for locals who won't see 17 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:15,319 Speaker 2: the benefits when the party's over. I'm Jennifer Zaba Saja 18 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 2: and this is the Next Africa Podcast, bringing you one 19 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 2: story each week from the continent driving the future of 20 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:28,040 Speaker 2: global growth with the context only Bloomberg can provide. Joining 21 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 2: us this week is Bloomberg's tiwa Adebayo, who has spent 22 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 2: much of this past December in Nigeria and has done 23 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 2: quite a bit of reporting on this. She's joining us now, Tia, 24 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 2: Happy New Year to you, so talk to us about 25 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:44,680 Speaker 2: what exactly debty December is and what you saw when 26 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 2: you were in Legos. 27 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 3: Wow, as the legend has it, debty December, that's dee 28 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 3: tty by the way. As a phenomenon, it started back 29 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 3: in twenty sixteen when if the singer missed the Easy 30 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 3: he used the phrase to refer to one of his 31 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 3: concerts on a hashtag and social media and since then 32 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 3: the meaning of the phrase has really metamorphosized. I mean 33 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:09,679 Speaker 3: it now refers really to a time of year when 34 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 3: a large volume of diasporans and other visitors descend on 35 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 3: African cities, particularly Akra and Ghana and Lagos in Nigeria, 36 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 3: and they come to see family, to catch up with friends, 37 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 3: and crucially to party a lot of the time. But 38 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 3: what struck me about Lagos this year was the real 39 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 3: presence of non diaspora Nigerians. So there was even a 40 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 3: host of celebrities international artists like Sweety Chloe Bailey for example. 41 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 3: It seems to have become this real cultural moment which 42 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 3: has gone from people simply coming back home to see 43 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 3: their families to a huge tourist destination being created out 44 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 3: of cities like Legos and Akra and a huge time 45 00:02:55,000 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 3: of celebration of cultural innovation and of course provide perhaps 46 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:02,839 Speaker 3: an economic boost to these cities too. 47 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 2: And TA talk about where we're seeing the biggest influx 48 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 2: or where we did see the biggest influx this past 49 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 2: holiday season. You mentioned the economic benefits. What sort of 50 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 2: numbers are we talking about here if you can quantify 51 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 2: it for us. 52 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 3: Well, I mean it's been focused really around cities like 53 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 3: Legos Nicra. 54 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 4: However, actually yesterday I was. 55 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:26,920 Speaker 3: Speaking to the Honorable Commissioner for Arts, Culture, Tourism and 56 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 3: Diaspora Affairs in Edo State, Nigeria. That's doctor Uyi Dua 57 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 3: Malacca and her state is in southern Nigeria actually, and 58 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 3: she told me that they too have seen increased number 59 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 3: of visitors, so it's perhaps not just all about the 60 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 3: cities at the moment. They've particularly seen increased visits to 61 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 3: cultural sites like their newly completed Museum of West African 62 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 3: Art in Benin City. In terms of the numbers, we're 63 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 3: still awaiting the official stats for twenty twenty four, but 64 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 3: all of the indicators so far to this year having 65 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 3: been the biggest yet in terms of dirty December. 66 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 4: Here's what she said to me. Statistics and readily available, 67 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 4: but I can tell you for Freeda at tim about 68 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 4: twenty twenty three. 69 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 5: My Koda's Economy GDP had it about fopising boosts from 70 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:22,600 Speaker 5: dirty tom by activities and twenty twenty four was even bigger. 71 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 3: And just to give you a bit of a flavor 72 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:27,159 Speaker 3: of what that means, if you look back at twenty 73 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 3: twenty three, the official statistics show that Legos, just Legos 74 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 3: alone welcomed one point two million tourists, and experts forecast 75 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 3: of fifteen percent surge from that number in twenty twenty four. 76 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 3: So it's a significant number of people. And there have 77 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 3: also been some adjustments made which would perhaps point to 78 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 3: there being more tourists. And that's because some of the 79 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 3: governments in Ghana, for example, are actually making things easier 80 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 3: for tourists that they're trying to entice them. So this 81 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 3: year in gard from the first of December twenty twenty 82 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:07,040 Speaker 3: four right up until January fifteenth, twenty twenty five, tourists 83 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 3: are able to enter without the need for visa pre approval, 84 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:15,359 Speaker 3: and that's really been done as part of an effort 85 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:19,040 Speaker 3: to make the overall process of travel to Ghana easier. 86 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:21,919 Speaker 3: They know that December is a hot spot, is a 87 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 3: time when a lot of tourists want to come and 88 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 3: visit Garana from all over the world, and they want 89 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 3: to make that as easy as possible. 90 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 4: They want to welcome as many tourists as possible. 91 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 3: And that initiative in Ghana is part of something called 92 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:38,599 Speaker 3: Beyond the Return, which is linked to the famous Year 93 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:42,280 Speaker 3: of Return twenty nineteen initiative, which sort of tried to 94 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 3: celebrate the historic links between Africa and its daspora, inviting 95 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 3: a lot of Black Americans, for example, to come to 96 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:52,600 Speaker 3: Gharna and discover their roots, and some were even given citizenship. 97 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:56,799 Speaker 2: And I remember when the Year of Return really took off, 98 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 2: when I was back in the States. It was really 99 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 2: a moment for people. We were mentioning going back to 100 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 2: your roots. When we talk about today though, and what 101 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:10,840 Speaker 2: happens in dirty December, what sort of things do people do. 102 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:13,599 Speaker 2: You were mentioning museums and memorials, I mean, how do 103 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:15,720 Speaker 2: you make the most out of the time there what 104 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 2: did you do, Tuua? 105 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 3: Well, there are lots of things to do, and I 106 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:26,039 Speaker 3: think that's what people are realizing. It's not just about 107 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:30,479 Speaker 3: the partying, which has perhaps been the narrative that's been 108 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 3: spread about Dirty December in previous years. I think what's 109 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 3: been really interesting this year is the cultural benefits that 110 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 3: have come from so many tourists coming to Nigerian Ghana, 111 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 3: but also the attention in the cultural zeitgeist that's been 112 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 3: placed on these countries. So artists, especially in Nigerian and 113 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 3: Ghani and artists are using this opportunity not just to 114 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 3: perform to new audiences physically, but also they're making the 115 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 3: most of the attention that's being placed on them globally, 116 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:07,279 Speaker 3: and they're using that opportunity to perhaps launch new artistic 117 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 3: projects because they know that December is a time not 118 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 3: just when people visit their countries, but when people pay 119 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 3: attention to their countries online. You will have heard at 120 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 3: the beginning of the podcast a song about Lagos called 121 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 3: come to Eco. It's by Nigerian duo Oiza and May 122 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 3: and I spoke to them a bit about this song 123 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 3: that they have, which talks about legos and everything that 124 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 3: there is to offer in the bustling city, and they 125 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 3: said to me that they actually chose to release the 126 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 3: song close to December to capitalize on that sort of 127 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 3: cultural opportunity. 128 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 5: So December is a really really good time. There's a 129 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 5: lot of shows, a lot of activities, and they are 130 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 5: looking for a lot of artists upcoming, big middle class artists. Everybody, 131 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 5: as far as you're in the musical or entertainment space. 132 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 4: This is a Greek time. 133 00:07:56,880 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 3: So really everyone is trying to take advantage of the 134 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 3: debty December phenomenon, and even the government, for example in Nigeria, 135 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 3: they're also trying to capitalize on the attention in an 136 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 3: economic sense. So there's something called the Nigerian Interbank Settlement 137 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 3: System which has been introduced from December twenty twenty four, 138 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 3: and that means that there'll be a non resident bank 139 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 3: verification number platform. And what all that means is that 140 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 3: it's going to be much easier for Nigerians living outside 141 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 3: of the country to manage their local bank accounts and 142 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 3: conduct business. And officials when they're talking about this policy, 143 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 3: they've said it's to ensure that Nigerians, regardless of their location, 144 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:43,439 Speaker 3: can engage seamlessly with the economy and expand their business opportunities. 145 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 3: And it's no coincidence that that initiative was started in 146 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:49,560 Speaker 3: December twenty twenty four. So what we can see is 147 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 3: the government really trying to take advantage of this economic opportunity. 148 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 2: Stick with us to because it's not our winners involved. 149 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:01,239 Speaker 2: When we come back, we'll talk about why not everyone's 150 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 2: happy with Dirty December. Will be right back, Welcome back today. 151 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 2: On the podcast, we're talking about Dirty December and how 152 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 2: cities in West Africa encourage the diaspora to come home 153 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 2: for Christmas and for the holidays. Tia Atebaio is still 154 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 2: with us, so talk about some of the downsides that 155 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 2: people have been alluding to when it relates to Dirty December. 156 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 3: Well, this year, Dirty December has been quite the controversial 157 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 3: topic online as well. 158 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 4: There's been a. 159 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 3: Huge discourse really between the people that live in these 160 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 3: countries full time, in Akra and in Lagos and people 161 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 3: that they're calling IJGBS or I just got back, So 162 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 3: that's the term for parts of the diaspora that come 163 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 3: seasonally to these cities and some people aren't happy. They 164 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:02,319 Speaker 3: say the country's infrastructure can't handle the influx of tourists. 165 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 3: There's been huge problems with traffic, especially in Lagos, and 166 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:09,839 Speaker 3: they say that people with their foreign currencies are also 167 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 3: driving up the prices of goods, making them even more 168 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 3: unaffordable for local residents. And that's something that's been very 169 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 3: prevalent on social media. Here are some clips of what 170 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 3: people had to say, IgGs to go because why there's 171 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 3: so much affric on the island. 172 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 5: I couldn't even make it. 173 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 1: To my plans like this. 174 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 2: Ers are just like, oh God. 175 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 3: Everybody that is coming to Nigeria is going to Legos, Legos. 176 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 2: There is module of Nigeria. 177 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 4: Prices are increasing like crazy. 178 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 3: And so really we can't talk about the economics of 179 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:47,960 Speaker 3: Debty December without mentioning the context. Using Nigeria for an example, 180 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 3: the Nayra hit record lows in twenty twenty four. Inflation 181 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 3: was at a twenty eight year high of thirty four 182 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 3: point six percent in December twenty twenty four, and drilling 183 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 3: into that far food inflation. Food is really a core 184 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 3: part of Derty December, with many tourists going out to 185 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 3: eat at local restaurants, but looking at that picture, for 186 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 3: local residents, food inflation quickened to thirty nine point nine 187 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 3: percent in November. 188 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:17,559 Speaker 4: So that's the backdrop that we're working with. But in 189 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 4: Lagos in. 190 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 3: Particular, actually, something that I noticed whilst I was there 191 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 3: is that perhaps the trickle down economics of dirty December 192 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:30,079 Speaker 3: isn't really playing out how many people think it should 193 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:33,200 Speaker 3: or would like it to in a geographic sense. So 194 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 3: Lagos is really split into the mainland and then Lagos Island, 195 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 3: which is typically more affluent, and that's really where a 196 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 3: lot of the tourists have been concentrated, where most of 197 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 3: the bars and clubs and restaurants and theaters are that 198 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:52,319 Speaker 3: have been really popular over the month of December. 199 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 4: And just being there over that period you can see. 200 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 3: Really a price difference between those two places. Things on 201 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 3: the mainland often very much cheaper than on the island, 202 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 3: where prices are being driven up. So if all that 203 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 3: foreign currency and all that economic power coming in is 204 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 3: being concentrated on the island, you have to wonder are 205 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 3: the locals really benefiting from this? 206 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 2: See when we talk about support from the diaspora in America, 207 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 2: across Europe, in the UK, is anyone on social or 208 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 2: on any of the officials that you've spoken with have 209 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 2: suggestions for what support could look like. 210 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 3: Well, when I was speaking to someone that works a 211 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:41,960 Speaker 3: lot with their diasper, that's the Honorable Commissioner for Arts, Culture, 212 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:44,559 Speaker 3: Tourism and also Diaspora Affairs in Edo State. 213 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 4: She told me that the diasper is a key pillar 214 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 4: for her work. 215 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 3: She's been able to reach out to people in the US, 216 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:57,199 Speaker 3: in the UK for example, to help fund the work 217 00:12:57,200 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 3: that she's doing in the state, and that's something that 218 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:03,320 Speaker 3: she's says to me she really wants to continue to 219 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:07,200 Speaker 3: do going forward, not just around December. They're also trying 220 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 3: to build other touch points around the year, particularly in Easter. 221 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:14,560 Speaker 3: There's also due to be Lagos Fashion Week celebrations, so 222 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 3: they're trying to make this a more regular thing and 223 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 3: keep that line of communication open with the diaspara. And 224 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:24,680 Speaker 3: I think that's also evidenced by policies such as making 225 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:28,239 Speaker 3: it easier to manage your bank account in Lagos remotely 226 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 3: or in Nigeria remotely if you're in the diaspora. So 227 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 3: there are things like that that the government is trying 228 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 3: to make easier to try and make that process and 229 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 3: that link, that bridge between the diaspora and Nigeria smoother 230 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 3: and it's definitely something will probably continue to see going 231 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 3: forward in twenty twenty five. 232 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for joining us and bringing us 233 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 2: the story and you're reporting. Great to get you on. 234 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 2: That's Tua Adebayo. Here's some other stories we've been following 235 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 2: across the region this week. M twenty three rebels appear 236 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 2: to be planning a long term occupation of mineral rich 237 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:12,559 Speaker 2: territories in Eastern Democratic Republic of Congo. United Nations experts warned, 238 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:16,680 Speaker 2: and a report released Wednesday, since April m twenty three 239 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 2: has been seizing Congolese towns with the help of Rwandan 240 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 2: forces and setting up parallel government administrations to control key 241 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 2: minds and trade routes. That's what the report said. Rwanda 242 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 2: denies supporting the rebels and says it's committed to a 243 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 2: ceasefire and peace talks with Congo. Also, Hershet's company is 244 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 2: asking the US's top derivatives regulator for permission to buy 245 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:46,479 Speaker 2: a huge amount of coco through the New York Exchange 246 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 2: after global shortages sent prices to a record that's according 247 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 2: to people familiar with the matter. The move comes as 248 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 2: the global market is forecast to face a fourth year 249 00:14:57,320 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 2: of supply shortages after the spread of disease and poor 250 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 2: weather hurt crops in the Ivory Coast and Ghanam, which 251 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 2: usually account for more than sixty percent of global supplies. 252 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 2: Prices have already broken record after record, prompting Hershey's chief 253 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 2: financial officer to warn that the company would face higher 254 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 2: cocoa costs this year. And you can follow these stories 255 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 2: across Bloomberg, including the next African Newsletter. We'll put a 256 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 2: link to that in the show notes. This program was 257 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 2: produced by Adrian Bradley. Don't forget to follow and review 258 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 2: the show wherever you usually get your podcasts. I'm Jennifer 259 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 2: Zaba Saja. Thank you for listening.