Speaker 1: It's eleven fifty seven pm in Irwindale, California, at the
Speaker 1: Renaissance Fair, and you're listening to Night Call. Hello, and
Speaker 1: welcome to Night Call, a podcast for your brand days
Speaker 1: and frandly nights. My name is Molly Lamport and I'm
Speaker 1: here in Los Angeles with Tess Lynch and over in
Speaker 1: New York. We have as always Emily Oshda, Molly, you
Speaker 1: make Game of Thrones references without even meaning to. There's
Speaker 1: a character called Friendly Barathian in seasons one and two
Speaker 1: of Game of Thrones. You're a super fan. It's amazing.
Speaker 1: That's what a friend of Night Call, Starley kind kept
Speaker 1: telling me when we went to the Renfair together with
Speaker 1: other friend of Night Call, Jane Mrie on Star Studied
Speaker 1: podcast team. Yeah, that's like a real that's like a
Speaker 1: meet up of the ages. It's a convention and convention
Speaker 1: a coven of podcasters. We enjoyed a fried artichoke and
Speaker 1: a baked potato, many many festivities were had, and just
Speaker 1: like in the old world, just like olden times, it
Speaker 1: was great. But Starley is a big Game of Thrones fan. Yeah,
Speaker 1: as we discussed last week, and this time she kept
Speaker 1: pointing at people and going, oh, hey, do you like that?
Speaker 1: And I'd be like, yeah, yeah, that's cute. She got
Speaker 1: then you like Game of Thrones. That's Game of Thrones.
Speaker 1: You like it. It's a compelling argument. It was great.
Speaker 1: She like pointed as like a girl. It was probably
Speaker 1: like Aria suppresses Aria or something, and she was like, hey,
Speaker 1: you like that outfit. I was like, good cosplay. She's like, boom,
Speaker 1: you're a huge Game of Thrones fan. She got me.
Speaker 1: I mean I went to the Renfair. You're halfway do
Speaker 1: you love? You love medieval times? Well, you know, I
Speaker 1: like the like the juck to position. Also, yeah, stuff.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of people just like wearing sublime shirts
Speaker 1: at the unfair. There's like a combo of people so
Speaker 1: dressed up in people just wearing a raider's jersey and
Speaker 1: flipops like they do every day. And that's what I
Speaker 1: love about it. It's beautiful to me. And and they
Speaker 1: have those right, there's no dress code at their unfair.
Speaker 1: And they have those things where there's like a bubble
Speaker 1: that a kid can run around into, like the hamster
Speaker 1: ball type thing on water. There's like a Lady of
Speaker 1: the Lake. Uh. Starley had an inquiry for miladies. Yes,
Speaker 1: we definitely want to hear Starley's call and this Nightcall
Speaker 1: and in general, we are going to take a bunch
Speaker 1: of night calls today because it's been a second we
Speaker 1: know we've got a backlog of calls we want to
Speaker 1: get to, so we're gonna have a regular call fest
Speaker 1: this week. Speaking of which, if you would like to call,
Speaker 1: please give us a call about all things night related
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Speaker 1: now onto the night calls. All right, this is a
Speaker 1: nightcall from Starley. Technically it is a night recording night
Speaker 1: field recording that we did in the car on the
Speaker 1: way home from the Renfair while we were still talking
Speaker 1: about Game of Thrones. Here it is, this is starlely Kine.
Speaker 1: I have a question for night Call, specifically for Emily,
Speaker 1: since Molly doesn't watch Game of Thrones even though she'd
Speaker 1: love it. Uh my question Emily is who are you
Speaker 1: personally rooting m M I think it's I'm a assuming
Speaker 1: that you want both these people to die, but who
Speaker 1: do you want to die? More? John dun Snow or
Speaker 1: police Emily, who who are you rooting for? To die?
Speaker 1: First of all, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna stall
Speaker 1: for a second. Here, keep everybody in suspense, um so,
Speaker 1: and and this is with with all of the love
Speaker 1: in my heart. I watched the last season of Game
Speaker 1: of Thrones with the One and Only stay Kine Um.
Speaker 1: I would bring over bottle of wine to her apartment,
Speaker 1: and I feel like most of it would be drunk
Speaker 1: by the time the episode started, and it was really fun.
Speaker 1: And usually I watched the show by myself, so it
Speaker 1: was it was fun to have somebody to like, yell
Speaker 1: at the TV with. Then, as this season was coming up,
Speaker 1: I went back and I was, you know, just trying
Speaker 1: to brush up, like remember where we were. And I
Speaker 1: started to watch the last season before this um, which
Speaker 1: was really short. It was like seven episodes or something.
Speaker 1: I did not remember for most of the stuff that
Speaker 1: happened in that season, Like all the rest of the seasons,
Speaker 1: I think I had watched the episodes at least twice
Speaker 1: because I was writing about them, so i'd have to
Speaker 1: go back and see what happened. But I do feel
Speaker 1: like I missed Starley this time around, like we became
Speaker 1: Game of Thrones buddies. So um, so I appreciate this
Speaker 1: question in more ways than one. I think Starley makes
Speaker 1: a strong argument just for watching Game of Thrones with Starle. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: she's like the most opinionated person to watch the show with. Um,
Speaker 1: it's uh, it's real fun. She's got takes usually, yeah,
Speaker 1: she's got takes, and I like to argue with people
Speaker 1: whose opinions are like not mine. Right, we have a
Speaker 1: good podcast, but also my conversation is fun. So hey,
Speaker 1: because she's setting you up in some way, does she
Speaker 1: know what you are going to answer this question already? Um?
Speaker 1: I don't think she does, but I mean I don't
Speaker 1: know if the answer is what she thinks it's going
Speaker 1: to be. I mean, if I had to pick, and
Speaker 1: I don't think either of these people are going to die,
Speaker 1: but if one person dies, it's probably going to be
Speaker 1: drawn snow and I Rachel just looked at me in
Speaker 1: the most incriminating way. Well, let's just like, have it
Speaker 1: be clear that he has already died and then got back. Yes,
Speaker 1: it's a long story. Is he a ghost? Now? The
Speaker 1: Lord of Light brought him back? Because it was foretold
Speaker 1: that he would you know, necessary to be a ghost
Speaker 1: wins the Game of Thrones, he's not a ghost. If
Speaker 1: a ghost word to win the Game of Thrones doesn't count,
Speaker 1: or do you get like a mull again, he's not
Speaker 1: a ghost. Well, if he's brought back from the dead,
Speaker 1: he's a zombie. At theast, he's kind of well, there
Speaker 1: are there are several people who have been brought back
Speaker 1: to like by the Lord of Light, and they are
Speaker 1: kind of like, they're telling me people. You're telling me
Speaker 1: people can die on the show and be brought back
Speaker 1: immediately your favorite sounds like a cool show. It's extremely
Speaker 1: like specific circumstances. Well, like Dan said last week, it's
Speaker 1: really rare for there to be this kind of magic,
Speaker 1: but it does happen. But when it happens, it's like
Speaker 1: to be jerked around by a show into thinking that
Speaker 1: your beloved characters have died and then a wizard goes
Speaker 1: whoop and they're like, oh, they're alive again. Caring to
Speaker 1: every bath. So we meet a lesser character, more minor
Speaker 1: character who's had this happened to him before we meet
Speaker 1: John Snow So it's not like we didn't know this
Speaker 1: could happen. We just knew it was. The President has
Speaker 1: been said, I'm going to answer that, like I think
Speaker 1: I've heard of you know that. I'm here to answer
Speaker 1: stars I'm going to answer Starley's question. I want all
Speaker 1: of them to die? Cool? All men must die? Yeah,
Speaker 1: he loved Game of Thrones. I do I say that
Speaker 1: all the time? All men must die? It's vulis um. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And in the spirit of that, like, I hope that
Speaker 1: John Snow dies more than Kalisi. Yeah, I mean I
Speaker 1: think it makes less sense. Like I don't think it
Speaker 1: would be very satisfying for Kalisi to die. I feel
Speaker 1: like the r is going to be pulled out of
Speaker 1: her in some way or another. I don't know if
Speaker 1: that necessarily means she's going to die. Maybe they're going
Speaker 1: to pull that bad rug off her head finally and
Speaker 1: be like, we have an expensive budget, but the wigs
Speaker 1: on the show are so bad and unbelievable. The Roastmaster
Speaker 1: has arrived. Tests you're also the Game of Rists. More
Speaker 1: of the roasts of the Roast is Nichol would love
Speaker 1: to host your roast. Please hire a night called it
Speaker 1: roast hosts Um where we'd be like the friendliest gentlest
Speaker 1: rost hoasts unless we forget to roast people. Halfway through.
Speaker 1: We just suvied we don't roast. It's a warm bath.
Speaker 1: Um test, Uh, Molly Test. You're also a Game of
Speaker 1: the Rones fan? Do you have a feeling about this?
Speaker 1: Who would I prefer whom? Who would I prefer to die?
Speaker 1: John Snow or Denarest Targarion. Yes, I would prefer John
Speaker 1: Snow to die because a he already has and be
Speaker 1: I yeah, I think that. Like I'm the only person
Speaker 1: who saw a last Night's episode, which is now two
Speaker 1: episodes in the past. If you're listening to this, I
Speaker 1: feel like I have not been wowed by John Snow's
Speaker 1: charisma in a while. I'm kind of over it. I'm
Speaker 1: a as we all know, I'm a Denarest fan. Last
Speaker 1: night and this is not a spoiler, but let me
Speaker 1: just say that there's a scene where they're at a
Speaker 1: party and Denarest is like sitting there looking at everyone.
Speaker 1: She's super paranoid, like everyone's you know, gonna take me down,
Speaker 1: Everyone's talking about me. Really identified with that. I need
Speaker 1: to keep her around for that reason. It's like I
Speaker 1: know that feeling Nearest is like hit the bong and
Speaker 1: she's just like, I don't know if it seems like
Speaker 1: everyone hates me here terrible Ever since I saw that
Speaker 1: meme about how John snow looks just like George Costanza. Yes,
Speaker 1: cannot unsee a riveting joust, a riveting chouse. Indeed, I'm
Speaker 1: betting on brand Brand. I mean, it's clear you don't
Speaker 1: watch the show if you're betting. But I watched Veep
Speaker 1: and I think Veep is going to end with Split
Speaker 1: being president, which is my dream. And I feel like
Speaker 1: you just always bet on like the person that nobody
Speaker 1: would bet on. Oh, you mean you're brand seems to
Speaker 1: know he's on the way out to win the game.
Speaker 1: Oh I thought you were betting on it. I was like, what, No,
Speaker 1: both are very unlike brands. Molly calls a game. He's
Speaker 1: not even brand anymore, Molly three eyed, he's a three
Speaker 1: eyed raven. Was not the appearance of the three eyed
Speaker 1: snake and Nature let me know that three raven is
Speaker 1: gonna win. Speaking of the three eyed snake, yeah, you
Speaker 1: know how that is definitely the night Call mascot of
Speaker 1: the month. Yeah, we love it. Moving on to more
Speaker 1: creepy things, I believe we have an email regarding Roswell. Yes,
Speaker 1: we have a somewhat belated but nonetheless incredibly appreciated email
Speaker 1: from Usenia, who is a Roswell native. While ago we
Speaker 1: were asking if there was anybody that listened to our
Speaker 1: show who was Roswell resident or a former resident or native,
Speaker 1: and uh, yeah, we heard back from U Senia and
Speaker 1: it was with a great email to get. So I'll
Speaker 1: just read it. Hey, night call pot. I am finally writing,
Speaker 1: even though your first episode wrangled me in with it's
Speaker 1: whatever time it was in Roswell, New Mexico. Since then,
Speaker 1: there's been a lot of Roswell chats, so I felt
Speaker 1: I had to write in as a native of the
Speaker 1: city parentheses town. I was born and grew up in
Speaker 1: Roswell and left when I went to college, but my
Speaker 1: family is still there, so I visit. It really is
Speaker 1: such a small place, fewer than fifty thou people, so
Speaker 1: it was always really interesting to us as children when
Speaker 1: people would come from all over to hang out with
Speaker 1: the aliens. I'm neither confirming nor denying that they're still here.
Speaker 1: I remember our family took a trip to New York
Speaker 1: when the Roswell show was at its peak, and my
Speaker 1: sister and I saw a billboard of the show and
Speaker 1: just turned to each other and laughed. The significance has
Speaker 1: only really hit me as I've lived outside for ten years,
Speaker 1: and it always starts cool conversation with people realize I'm
Speaker 1: from there. Roswell definitely caters to the tourism. There's a
Speaker 1: UFO McDonald's the lamp Post downtown or Alien Heads, and
Speaker 1: the main theater is called Galaxy eight with a ufosque front.
Speaker 1: There's also a UFO museum and people love taking pics
Speaker 1: of the Roswell City limit sign not to mention alien
Speaker 1: paraphernalia everywhere, and of course the UFO crash site, which
Speaker 1: is a little north of the actual city, though I
Speaker 1: have to admit I've not visited. It's a big deal.
Speaker 1: I appreciate it, and I'm sure Roswell, New Mexico does too.
Speaker 1: I'll send a postcard next time i'm down there. Thank
Speaker 1: you so much. You said, yeah, this is great. I mean,
Speaker 1: this is sort of how I would imagine it, like
Speaker 1: even the UFO McDonald's that like, even the national and
Speaker 1: international chains will like catch Roswell fever if they have
Speaker 1: an outpost there. It seems very appropriate. This made me
Speaker 1: want to go to Roswell so bad. There are been
Speaker 1: a lot of things that have made us want to
Speaker 1: go to Roswell. To be honest, yeah, we send night
Speaker 1: called Roswald. I'm kind of jealous. I mean, I love
Speaker 1: l A, but like it could use that extra layer
Speaker 1: of like a weird event. That's not bad. Oh, we
Speaker 1: have too many weird events what they're all about, But
Speaker 1: what about like a not a neutral weird event to
Speaker 1: add a layer. It's like a clarity of theme with Roswell.
Speaker 1: It's like there's lots of weird stuff in l A
Speaker 1: and it's all kind of competing for your attention, and
Speaker 1: you can like ride different wavelengths of weird l A
Speaker 1: history to go down and then places to get your
Speaker 1: picture taken or whatever. But like the fact that Roswell
Speaker 1: is just all about this one thing is really pure.
Speaker 1: I feel like LA doesn't have a central theme or location.
Speaker 1: Well it's I feel like it does have like central themes.
Speaker 1: There are a few themes, I mean. And also we
Speaker 1: have like some good ghosts, very big fan of our ghosts.
Speaker 1: What if you're not what if you don't believe in
Speaker 1: Aliens and you live in Roswell, I must be terrible.
Speaker 1: You must not believe in aliens if you live in Roswell.
Speaker 1: But like, I don't know, like not being the protagonist
Speaker 1: in your own life, I don't know. You just seize
Speaker 1: the opportunity. You don't think everybody just rebels against whatever
Speaker 1: a town is serving them when they're young. No, you
Speaker 1: have to go along with it. Otherwise you're at your out.
Speaker 1: That's why your listeners. If you live in Roswell in
Speaker 1: New Mexico and you don't feel like the protagonist of
Speaker 1: your own life at these times a nightcall I want
Speaker 1: to for no matter where you live, if you don't
Speaker 1: feel like the protagonists, I don't feel like the protagonists
Speaker 1: into something much weirder. I'm sorry why like the protagonist
Speaker 1: and a long time is really unnerving When you start
Speaker 1: feeling an ensemble cast, that's terrible, right, It's great. Nothing
Speaker 1: is better than an ensemble movie. One of my theories
Speaker 1: about Game of Thrones that I said to Starley that
Speaker 1: I was like, this is why I think Game of
Speaker 1: Thrones is good is because I like any ensemble show
Speaker 1: that tricks men into caring about a bunch of female
Speaker 1: characters by seating them with an equal number of male characters,
Speaker 1: which is I think all good ensemble shows. The sopranos,
Speaker 1: like every ensemble show. You're like, ha, you tricked men
Speaker 1: into like getting involved in the emotional lives of like
Speaker 1: a teenage girl because they want to see what happens
Speaker 1: with dragons. Um. Yeah, so bully to you, Thrones, Yeah,
Speaker 1: bully to you. This email does make me think about
Speaker 1: like like not being into the thing that your town
Speaker 1: or like where you grew up was about, Like like
Speaker 1: the feeling of alienation that is like very common for
Speaker 1: for growing up in any of them place, but when
Speaker 1: that's at like if you grew up in a football town,
Speaker 1: for example, but you like hate football, or you just
Speaker 1: really like, I don't know, lacrosse and stuff, but like
Speaker 1: being being at odds at the thing that your your
Speaker 1: town is known for. Um. I mean that the the
Speaker 1: UFO thing is such a strong idea like around that.
Speaker 1: But I do feel like probably a lot of l
Speaker 1: A kids grow up feeling really like alienated from show
Speaker 1: business or or you know, any of that. Probably as
Speaker 1: many kids who grow up and want to just be
Speaker 1: actors or directors or whatever too. But and what about
Speaker 1: the people who live in Maine but they're allergic to shellfish? Exactly.
Speaker 1: That's terrible. That's worse. That's worse, honestly, because if you
Speaker 1: believe in aliens or not, that doesn't affect your ability
Speaker 1: to appreciate like all the alien kitch stuff that goes on.
Speaker 1: Still better than being from Connecticut, where the theme is
Speaker 1: repression Connecticut. Yeah, And if you can't do the thing
Speaker 1: like as I say so eloquently, or to have the
Speaker 1: good thing where it's good, like I like lobsters in
Speaker 1: Maine or something, if you can't do that, that always
Speaker 1: feels like a bummer, Like if you're lactose intolerant and
Speaker 1: you live in Wisconsin, for example. Exactly exactly, Guys, I
Speaker 1: think we should take another night call this one. I've
Speaker 1: been thinking about this one a lot. Okay, So this
Speaker 1: one comes from a m HI test Emily and Molly.
Speaker 1: I'm listening to Night Call sixty three. The scary statistic
Speaker 1: you cited about panies using data on their employees movements
Speaker 1: reminded me that a temporary job I had at I'm
Speaker 1: going to redact this in Queens required me to submit
Speaker 1: biometric data at the start and end of every shift.
Speaker 1: Here's how it worked. After signing my employment contract, a
Speaker 1: manager told me to stand against a wall in the store.
Speaker 1: I didn't know what was happening until she had me
Speaker 1: move my head up and down, and I realized a
Speaker 1: camera was reading my face. We clocked in and out
Speaker 1: of shifts by putting our faces in front of a scanner,
Speaker 1: and could only unlock slash log into our registers by
Speaker 1: touching a fingerprint scanner. It didn't really matter that I
Speaker 1: hadn't given my permission to the store's security slash surveillance
Speaker 1: team to collect my data because I needed the job,
Speaker 1: but I still wish they'd offered me a chance to
Speaker 1: opt out. I'm certain it would never occur to the
Speaker 1: stores managers that this was a breach of privacy, or
Speaker 1: that there's any legitimate reason we wouldn't want our biometric
Speaker 1: information in a security database. The scanners sometimes wouldn't work
Speaker 1: if I wore dark lipstick or took my coat and
Speaker 1: hat off. Do you remember seeing stories several years ago
Speaker 1: about makeup and hairstyles that could thwart facial recognition tech.
Speaker 1: I feel like I've been waiting for the anti surveillance punk.
Speaker 1: Luke to come in fashion since then. Obviously only a
Speaker 1: temporary solution, but a fun one. I wonder if it works.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for this terrifying email. Um, I
Speaker 1: just want to jump right in. Please don't say that
Speaker 1: I just bought one of those space blocker things. What
Speaker 1: are they like a full face shade. Yeah, I posted
Speaker 1: pictures of it. I wore it to the Unfair. It's like, um,
Speaker 1: it's like the visor that goes all the way down,
Speaker 1: like I did see it. I had no idea what
Speaker 1: that was, and we posted it. Vista Viano Vista Viano,
Speaker 1: Donald Sterling's Stress War one, but they're also just popular. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like a big like Grandma look in l A.
Speaker 1: I feel like interesting, I'm into that you will be
Speaker 1: so that your face. Did you do it for fashion purposes?
Speaker 1: I did it for sun purposes because I was going
Speaker 1: to the Unfair, which is an early it's super sunny. Um.
Speaker 1: And also I just found one that I've been like
Speaker 1: thinking about getting one for a long time, and then
Speaker 1: night called friend to create a longworth had one, and
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I totally do want one. I
Speaker 1: just do it. And then I was wearing it around
Speaker 1: and it was like the most amazing feeling because people
Speaker 1: can't see your face. It's incredible. You walk around it
Speaker 1: almost seems impolite. It's it's amazing because also like if
Speaker 1: you're a woman, especially, it's like, oh, men cannot see
Speaker 1: your face. They can't even see if you're smiling. They like,
Speaker 1: you can see your body, but who cares it can't
Speaker 1: see your face. It's amazing. I love it. But does
Speaker 1: does that inhibit your ability to like connect with people? Yes,
Speaker 1: that's what I've found about the point for wearing it
Speaker 1: for a whole day because it's kind of amazing because
Speaker 1: it's like you have this little like bubble around you.
Speaker 1: I was also like, yeah, I was just like vaping
Speaker 1: inside of it. I was very like you were hot
Speaker 1: boxing your own head, my little cocoon um. But you
Speaker 1: still get a Darth Vader from talking under it voice.
Speaker 1: Do you think it's healthy? It? Is it breathable? Like
Speaker 1: is there a air circulation? I mean it's just a shade,
Speaker 1: so it's it's not like hockey mask or like a
Speaker 1: or yeah, like a fencing mask or something like that.
Speaker 1: Fencing mask would also be a good look now. And
Speaker 1: also Jane Murray was like some dudes might just be
Speaker 1: into that. That's true too, just a body, especially if
Speaker 1: I'm wearing it on like Star Wars day and it's
Speaker 1: a little Stormtrooper. But it is really fun. I do
Speaker 1: recommend it if you're going to like the beach or something,
Speaker 1: check it out. I don't know how i'd feel walking
Speaker 1: around without my face in front of me, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. I'm an overwear of sunglasses. Like I
Speaker 1: wear sunglasses on cloudy days. I started doing it because
Speaker 1: I squint in the sun really badly and it would
Speaker 1: like hurt my face all day if I was like
Speaker 1: I remember like on snowy days in Iowa, if I
Speaker 1: was like squinting all day, then my face would her
Speaker 1: you get a headache? Yeah, yeah. So I started wearing
Speaker 1: sunglasses really obsessively, like all the time. I can't leave
Speaker 1: the house without sunglasses even if it's raining, and that
Speaker 1: I feel like affords enough freedom. It makes you look
Speaker 1: like an asshole, which I also kind of like, um,
Speaker 1: I don't know, nobody's going to really try to talk
Speaker 1: to you, like on the training. That's funny. I always
Speaker 1: I didn't wear sunglasses for like until I was like
Speaker 1: eighteen or something because I thought they were like pretentious.
Speaker 1: I have a really hard time wearing sunglasses because the
Speaker 1: difference between my peripheral vision and my forward vision gives
Speaker 1: me like a little bit of a vertigo, a shield
Speaker 1: that covers your whole face. But my problem, as Molly knows,
Speaker 1: from hanging out for a long time at random like corners,
Speaker 1: I really I like talking to strangers. It's like it
Speaker 1: gives me my juice. Not always, I mean definitely, not always,
Speaker 1: but I've I've kind of like it's become part of
Speaker 1: the texture of my life that I wouldn't want to
Speaker 1: get rid. I'd be like sad if people if I
Speaker 1: couldn't connect with people's faces. But at the same time,
Speaker 1: like this, you know, the sunglasses issue, Well, it's interesting
Speaker 1: to think about using it as a facial recognition technology blocker.
Speaker 1: That's true, I wonder if it would work because I
Speaker 1: love that idea. And also that whole story about getting
Speaker 1: the biometrics of people at a company is super weird.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's just crazy that you clock in it
Speaker 1: you stand against a wall and like they scan your
Speaker 1: face for you to clock in. It's like what they're
Speaker 1: they're just see It seems like it's all a front
Speaker 1: and I redacted the name of the store where she worked,
Speaker 1: but it was not like a national security firm. She's
Speaker 1: not working at Google, like we can exactly much like
Speaker 1: it's not this like huge high security, Like it feels
Speaker 1: very excessive if if the kind if the business is
Speaker 1: the kind of business that the name makes it sound like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel like that all of that tech is really
Speaker 1: really easily compromised too. Like I feel also you can
Speaker 1: take a picture of or like have a full color
Speaker 1: scan of your face pace and like put it in
Speaker 1: front of your head and walk in front of the
Speaker 1: scanner and probably like get away with it, you know,
Speaker 1: like uh, somebody really wants to take your identity and
Speaker 1: it's just your face, Like I don't know. I like
Speaker 1: that that facial recognition technology will never be as good
Speaker 1: as like a crow is recognizing humans. Well, but I mean,
Speaker 1: like we have to say, like crows are extremely intelligent,
Speaker 1: super intelligently intelligent. I just think like the idea of
Speaker 1: putting so much of your identity on your face feels
Speaker 1: like a really like slippery philosophical argument to me, not
Speaker 1: only because like everybody gets work done now and stuff,
Speaker 1: and that's like fairly common. Especially, that's a very philosophically
Speaker 1: scary thing when you look on Instagram and it's like
Speaker 1: every beautiful person has the exact same face. That's a
Speaker 1: very weird phenomenon. Yeah, what if everybody had no face
Speaker 1: at all? That would be worse. No, think about it,
Speaker 1: Like no, that's like the stuff of nightmare, like blank face. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: this is the shadow people. This is my shadow person experience.
Speaker 1: Was the person with no face? I hate it. There's
Speaker 1: a no face in Dick Tracy. It turns out to
Speaker 1: be Madonna. Then spoiler for Dick Tracy. Look it all
Speaker 1: comes together. We're just talking about Dick Tracy last week.
Speaker 1: One theme. It is all one theme. Well, this this
Speaker 1: email was amazing. Thank you so much for Yes, it
Speaker 1: was awesome. I wanted to stay real quick and like
Speaker 1: kind of on the subject of of of um, I
Speaker 1: guess like future dystopias is that in the broad category.
Speaker 1: I went to Hudson Yards today, Like I wasn't planning
Speaker 1: on it at all, but I went to a screening
Speaker 1: this morning and I happened to run into a buddy
Speaker 1: there and we ended up riding bikes, Like I I
Speaker 1: got a city bike and like I've never biked in
Speaker 1: New York before because it scares me a lot. But
Speaker 1: we we biked up to Hudson Yards. And for those
Speaker 1: of you who don't live in New York or don't
Speaker 1: know about this, Hudson Yards is like this terror of
Speaker 1: fine development that now exists like basically over the Hudson
Speaker 1: Yards like the train yards for UM for Penn Station.
Speaker 1: And it's really kind of in the middle of nowhere,
Speaker 1: like super super west side Midtown, And there wasn't much
Speaker 1: of anything there before except for like the jab At Center,
Speaker 1: but now there's like five I think there are five
Speaker 1: currently um hotels, condo type you know, mixed use buildings,
Speaker 1: and like a big stupid shopping center with like a
Speaker 1: Cardier and a Lululemon in it. And that is what
Speaker 1: the Hudson Yards is. It's the most charmless public space
Speaker 1: I've ever seen. There's actually a really really good, just
Speaker 1: complete burn of it in the New York Times that
Speaker 1: came out about that. I think the day that it opened,
Speaker 1: just about how like anti human the space is, how
Speaker 1: it's it seems so counter to like the needs of
Speaker 1: the city. Like the funny thing is is that the
Speaker 1: high the high line. You guys near the high Line. Um.
Speaker 1: So it goes up all the way to Hudson Yards. Now, oh,
Speaker 1: basically like runs into this wall of like steel and glass.
Speaker 1: It's just like you you went right into the giant skyscraper. Um.
Speaker 1: And it's funny because I think of the Highline as
Speaker 1: being something that like is actually a pretty humanistic and
Speaker 1: like a nice space, even though it's a total people zoo,
Speaker 1: Like it's a nice like thing that they decided to
Speaker 1: put money into it, but it has a purpose. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the Hudson Yards is like totally from this like post
Speaker 1: human dystopia. It's like very There's there's this big thing
Speaker 1: in the middle of it called the vessel. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: what people have been concentrating on. That is like it's
Speaker 1: like an art installation in the middle and it's literally
Speaker 1: a staircase to nowhere apparently really Yeah, so the vessel.
Speaker 1: The crazy thing about this and this is um, I'm
Speaker 1: looking now at this article on Curbed New York. The
Speaker 1: vessel is basically made to be a Instagram trap because
Speaker 1: it's so crazy looking. It looks like a big like
Speaker 1: our producer Rachel's calling it the shourma. I think that's
Speaker 1: like the nickname that's that they're working on for. People
Speaker 1: are trying to make that one stick because it does
Speaker 1: look like a meat tornado. But people take these pictures
Speaker 1: of it, and uh, there are like terms and conditions
Speaker 1: if you visit the vessel, which means that you agree
Speaker 1: that if you go into the structure. Okay, when you
Speaker 1: a ton of reader's notice that hidden within vessels visitor
Speaker 1: terms and conditions which ticket holders agree to when signing
Speaker 1: up to climb the structure. There's a clause that more
Speaker 1: or less gave Hudson Yards the right to photos, audio recording,
Speaker 1: or video footage depicting or relating to vessel for any
Speaker 1: purpose whatsoever, in any and all media, in either case
Speaker 1: now known or developed later. So like basically, if you
Speaker 1: it's a trap, yeah so you said, that's why you
Speaker 1: said it's a sliver. Yeah, yeah, it's like this, it's
Speaker 1: just a staircase to nowhere that everybody gets like Instagram
Speaker 1: photos in I think I read somewhere else that there's
Speaker 1: photo recognition for it, like the structure, because it's such
Speaker 1: a unique structure, so that like there's some kind of
Speaker 1: algorithm that can tell when somebody has taken a photo
Speaker 1: of the vessel and then can use that to use
Speaker 1: that photo for promotional purposes or whatever they want, Like
Speaker 1: they confined photos of it just like automatically on. So
Speaker 1: it's super scary. Also, if this stuff was even at
Speaker 1: all charming or kind of like fun to look at,
Speaker 1: it would be one thing. But it's so ugly all
Speaker 1: of it. It's so and like everybody goes there because
Speaker 1: they know that they have to get a picture taken there,
Speaker 1: because it's like the Instagram thing now to get your
Speaker 1: picture taken there. But like, what do you do? Like
Speaker 1: what is inside? Nothing? It's just stairs. It's like literally
Speaker 1: it's like a honeycomb thing of stairs that's like a
Speaker 1: kind of half like it's a basket basically, so you
Speaker 1: can car their emergency. It's a great question, I do think,
Speaker 1: so yeah, Like that's why I mean question about it
Speaker 1: seems like a death trap. Yeah. I don't think there's
Speaker 1: an elevator or anything in it. Like it's all stairs,
Speaker 1: so it's not accessible. It looks like a water slide
Speaker 1: that got grounded. You know. It's just like a really
Speaker 1: like it and the super skinny towers in New York
Speaker 1: that like appear overnight that like oligarchs parked their money
Speaker 1: in are like really really great visual metaphors for um. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we have a lot of those two and like the
Speaker 1: other thing we have way too many of now that
Speaker 1: you guys also have a lot of in New York.
Speaker 1: Or those pop up museums that aren't actually museums opening
Speaker 1: one down the street from where we record here called
Speaker 1: the Museum of Fruit that we were getting mad about
Speaker 1: because it's like the space that used to be an
Speaker 1: art store and then it was like recently a Halloween store,
Speaker 1: and then they're turning it into the Museum of Fruit,
Speaker 1: which is like an Instagram thing with different rooms. In
Speaker 1: each room is like a fruit that you take photos
Speaker 1: in front of it. It's like, we need housing, Like
Speaker 1: this is insane. And then I was in the Beverly Center,
Speaker 1: which is another kind of staircase to nowhere. It's been
Speaker 1: under construction for like ten years now, like they finished it,
Speaker 1: but it hasn't like they didn't change anything. It's hilarious.
Speaker 1: They just put this kind of frank Gary great on
Speaker 1: the outside and they're like it's that's it. But on
Speaker 1: the top floor it's also like it does a weird
Speaker 1: Labyrinth thing to my brain because it's like they took
Speaker 1: out the movie theater and the food court. So when
Speaker 1: I go to the top and that's not there anymore,
Speaker 1: I'm like nothing. And it's like being in a video
Speaker 1: game where you like go down the wrong way because
Speaker 1: you're like, I know something is here, but it's not anymore,
Speaker 1: and what they put in its place is nothing. But
Speaker 1: then there's like a Playboy pop up right now, that's
Speaker 1: like I didn't pay because I wouldn't pay for a
Speaker 1: pop up, but it's like the Playboy Museum, like go
Speaker 1: in the room that's a fake Playboy club and take
Speaker 1: your photo in front of some stuff for fifteen dollars. God,
Speaker 1: We're like the word museum is becoming like completely yes,
Speaker 1: you know, and it's we've eroded, right, And it's interesting
Speaker 1: because like obviously the way museums or program did start
Speaker 1: to cater to Instagram, like like they went, you know,
Speaker 1: which was smart to be like you can take photos
Speaker 1: in front of the art, you know. I mean I
Speaker 1: went to the Helma f Clint show, like I did
Speaker 1: my part. I didn't post any photos there, but like,
Speaker 1: you know, it's not the appeal of that for many
Speaker 1: people like that one. No, but I saw a lot
Speaker 1: of people posting about that one. I thought it was
Speaker 1: funny because I just kept being like Helma clint A
Speaker 1: f totally also she's cool. So no, it was. It
Speaker 1: was a cool show. And it's just like but and
Speaker 1: and and I really, I mean I really genuinely enjoyed it.
Speaker 1: Um but I you know, there were people who were
Speaker 1: just going through and taking a photo of everyone and
Speaker 1: not even like looking at taking a moment to look
Speaker 1: at the art with their own eyes, which is, you know,
Speaker 1: just kind of right. The experience economy has gotten so weird.
Speaker 1: I'm also going to call it now, not that I'm
Speaker 1: going to stop using it, but in a way, I
Speaker 1: think like Instagram might be the most insidious social media
Speaker 1: platform in what way? Go on, Well, I just feel
Speaker 1: like talking about facial recognition and having these kind of
Speaker 1: Instagram traps, like it takes more legwork to kind of
Speaker 1: draw a person to a physical location and then expect
Speaker 1: to for them to give you exposure. If it's in
Speaker 1: a written piece versus just a picture. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: obviously crosses language barriers. It's like easily interpreted by anyone,
Speaker 1: and there's a lot of data that you can collect
Speaker 1: from that without the person really understanding how they're interacting
Speaker 1: with the platform. I think conversely, TikTok, which is the
Speaker 1: new vine, Yes, I think might be good and save
Speaker 1: us all. It's our old town road came from, right,
Speaker 1: It's it's where old Town Road came from. And then
Speaker 1: Jay Kang has been posting all these amazing he's he
Speaker 1: found a good stream and it's literally a stream called
Speaker 1: of stream cooking. It's like foraging in a stream and
Speaker 1: then cooking in the stream, and it's the most relaxing,
Speaker 1: great cooking in the stream. Yeah, you have to fire
Speaker 1: in the street. I almost don't want to, like spoil
Speaker 1: the one that he posted because it's like, okay, I
Speaker 1: almost screamed when I saw what happened at the end
Speaker 1: of it. I was like so delighted. That's all I'll say.
Speaker 1: All right, but this in the show notes so everyone
Speaker 1: can see slow internet will return, So yeah, it's perfect
Speaker 1: slow Internet. The other thing I think of when it
Speaker 1: comes to Instagram about you know it maybe being secretly
Speaker 1: the most insidious is just the way that's certain visual
Speaker 1: things are normalized in it, or patterns and behaviors are
Speaker 1: just repeated over and over and over again until like
Speaker 1: they become reality. And for some reason, like there's obviously
Speaker 1: the link stick version of that, but then there's the
Speaker 1: like visual version of that. There was an article recently
Speaker 1: in the Atlantic about how the current batch of new
Speaker 1: Instagram influencers are like abandoning what we think of as
Speaker 1: the Instagram aesthetic. Like they're not doing the super bright
Speaker 1: colors and food arranged just so and that kind of
Speaker 1: they're like it's blurrying out of focus. Yeah, yeah, they're
Speaker 1: like deal with it, grunge Instagram. But I still thought
Speaker 1: that was interesting at least, like because you intend to
Speaker 1: think of these things are like the idea of influences
Speaker 1: as being like this big, like just one big movement,
Speaker 1: but the idea that there are some people who are
Speaker 1: I don't know. I also feel like it must be
Speaker 1: so weird for like, like if you're a kid who
Speaker 1: knows people that are making a living as influencers, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that must shift your perception of like if you're like
Speaker 1: that is what's valuable and like nobody thinks about like
Speaker 1: when will this end? Right? Well, it's also like if
Speaker 1: no career is sustainable, why not go for the career
Speaker 1: that everybody knows is not sustainable, but like burns the brightest. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and at least you're prepared going into it. I also
Speaker 1: just say that the other thing that I think is
Speaker 1: kind of unsettling about Instagram is the story. Well, first
Speaker 1: of all, it's it's the platform that I think is
Speaker 1: most kind of explicitly expecting you to document in real time,
Speaker 1: you know. And I think that the stories feature also
Speaker 1: gives this weird like you're able to really track a
Speaker 1: person's movements. Not that I would, but theoretically you could.
Speaker 1: Like looking at Molly Stories, I was like, okay, she's
Speaker 1: moving through the Renaissance Fair and now she's here, Like
Speaker 1: I can almost do like a map befhere Molly goes,
Speaker 1: and then I could pin it to my bedroom wall
Speaker 1: and in real time I her footsteps and look for
Speaker 1: I think we assume people are posting in real time,
Speaker 1: but I feel like sometimes they're not. But I think
Speaker 1: across the board most people do. It's something that you
Speaker 1: do without thinking, and it's also it seems to be
Speaker 1: like less incriminating. You're not really expressing opinions as off.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go ahead and say I do think about it,
Speaker 1: and I generally post after I'm not at that place
Speaker 1: anymore because I don't want to be so like here's
Speaker 1: where I am right this second. But it's also like
Speaker 1: with Twitter, I think after the Justine on the plane
Speaker 1: thing went, I mean, after everyone realized that, like a
Speaker 1: bad tweet can kind of ruin your day, month, your career, whatever.
Speaker 1: There's there's nothing in Instagram. I mean, you can have
Speaker 1: a terrible Instagram caption, but for the most part, most
Speaker 1: people I follow are not writing like little mini essays.
Speaker 1: Very off harder to get canceled from Instagram. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: harder to get canceled from Instagram, and as a result,
Speaker 1: you can thoughtlessly document things without I mean with Twitter,
Speaker 1: I think now everyone gives like a little more pause
Speaker 1: before they express something exactly. Yeah. No, I remember like seeing, uh,
Speaker 1: like David Chow had Snapchat and I would not. He
Speaker 1: brought it to Disneyland, and I was like, why would
Speaker 1: you document like every five seconds of things that are happening,
Speaker 1: Like who wants that? And then that just became how
Speaker 1: everyone does everything. People do want it? I like, don't.
Speaker 1: I think it's too much the amount of energy that
Speaker 1: it takes for me is like not worth it. I
Speaker 1: I and it's not actually thoughtless for me to post
Speaker 1: a selfie, Like I have so many selfies that I
Speaker 1: was because you're such a director, you have a director's
Speaker 1: But I'm also just like, oh, like I'm going, like
Speaker 1: the top nine photos on my Instagram, it's like if
Speaker 1: any more than three of them are selfies, and I
Speaker 1: start to get really self conscious that that everybody thinks
Speaker 1: I'm just an idiot who post selfies. I don't think
Speaker 1: you post too many selfies, Emily, and I would tell
Speaker 1: you if I thought. I think also, once you're past
Speaker 1: a certain age, like it doesn't feel self conscious anymore.
Speaker 1: It's kind of like, here's my face, it's what I was,
Speaker 1: part of my body, Like that's all I got. I
Speaker 1: think it took me a long time to be like
Speaker 1: to not feel like it was just really vain to
Speaker 1: post selfies, to be like it's fine to just be
Speaker 1: like I am documenting that I exist. So that's sort
Speaker 1: of the funny thing about launching the Patreon this week
Speaker 1: is that we have like photos of ourselves and video
Speaker 1: out there, and like it's not that we don't have
Speaker 1: photos of ourselves out there, we're just like not primarily,
Speaker 1: I would say, like visually represented people, and there was
Speaker 1: somebody who responded to one of them be like, it's
Speaker 1: so weird to see like sound coming out of their
Speaker 1: mouths at the same time, like a bunch of people.
Speaker 1: Maybe yeah, I was like, maybe we've hidden our faces
Speaker 1: like too much. Well, what people don't realize is that
Speaker 1: all of our the whole video was c G I
Speaker 1: and Emily had to computer generate the voice. I mean
Speaker 1: that's why I was saying, is a lot of work,
Speaker 1: because she actually related this. Yeah, so much wire work.
Speaker 1: Hey guys, before we wrap up, can we take one
Speaker 1: last night call? Absolutely? Can it be the abject cosmic horror?
Speaker 1: One Okey dokey. This female was from Christian Hey night
Speaker 1: CALLI says, I still love the podcast a lot, whatever
Speaker 1: crazy days and lonely nights are in store for us all.
Speaker 1: In the last episode, you asked about listeners reactions to
Speaker 1: the black hole images, and I can tell you abject
Speaker 1: cosmic horror. Why the online community is celebrating this image
Speaker 1: of a giant piece of nothingness is beyond me. I
Speaker 1: have always had mainly fear of the vastness of space,
Speaker 1: usually bigger than any sense of wonder or awe. However,
Speaker 1: this brings me to a question to you connected to
Speaker 1: this sense of cosmic horror. A few nights ago, my
Speaker 1: girlfriend and I were sitting on my terrorist, drinking white
Speaker 1: wine and looking at the stars. One particularly bright and
Speaker 1: blinking sorry when you say, humble, humble drag. One particularly
Speaker 1: bright and blinking star caught our eye, and my girlfriend's
Speaker 1: night sky app told us it was Arcteris, a red
Speaker 1: giant thirty six light years away and a hundred and
Speaker 1: ten times brighter than our sun. We both shuddered at
Speaker 1: that thought. Then I remembered reading about pan psychism, the
Speaker 1: idea that the entire universe and everything in it, not
Speaker 1: just us, but every tree in rock, has a consciousness.
Speaker 1: One piece of evidence for panpsychism is that stars movements
Speaker 1: in the galaxy seems to be explicable only if we
Speaker 1: assume their own volition. The idea that Arcterris might have
Speaker 1: some sort of incomprehensible consciousness scared my girlfriend even more,
Speaker 1: but I got a weird sense of consolation from it
Speaker 1: that there is this being up there instead of just
Speaker 1: a cloud of very hot gas. Which would you prefer
Speaker 1: and which scares you? More Christian such a good night call.
Speaker 1: I mean, I know the answer immediately. I mean, the
Speaker 1: lack of consciousness is so much more scary, Like I mean, yes,
Speaker 1: that's a very quick way to feel okay about the
Speaker 1: vastness of space? Is that like some somebody's up there? Um,
Speaker 1: you guys know in Griffith Observatory in the museum part
Speaker 1: like the um there's sort of that downstairs area where
Speaker 1: there's like, um, a huge mural on one side of
Speaker 1: the stars, and it's supposed to be if you hold
Speaker 1: up your finger and you're looking at the night sky
Speaker 1: like your index finger, like kind of close to your face,
Speaker 1: the amount of the night sky that fits into your
Speaker 1: finger is approximately what that part of the wall represents,
Speaker 1: which is about like three stories high. And I don't know,
Speaker 1: it cannot be over overstated how big space is. Uh,
Speaker 1: And yeah, I think the thing that's upsetting about that
Speaker 1: is the fact that there's not anything there like that
Speaker 1: as far as we know, or that there's not anything
Speaker 1: comparable to what we understand as being consciousness or life
Speaker 1: or sentience out there. Um. I think that's immensely more
Speaker 1: upseaving than the stars having consciousness. Well, I just want
Speaker 1: to say that the Griffith Park Observatory has been closed
Speaker 1: for the last week and we are starting No, it's fine. Well,
Speaker 1: it's supposedly to install LED lights along the path, but
Speaker 1: at night call we are starting the rumor here you
Speaker 1: heard at first that it's because they found an alien.
Speaker 1: Oh good one, right, I'll totally disseminate that. Okay, great, Molly.
Speaker 1: Do you prefer to think of planets as being sentient
Speaker 1: or just objects? I'm going to tell you, I like
Speaker 1: make everything sentient, whether it wants to be or not.
Speaker 1: Like when I was a kid, I was really into
Speaker 1: like giving numbers personalities exactly. Yea a sign that I
Speaker 1: would not be good at math, be good at world building.
Speaker 1: And that We went to a camp in elementary school
Speaker 1: called Astro Camp. Yeah, that was like a sleepaway camp
Speaker 1: for a couple nights in Idle Wild where it's like
Speaker 1: space themed. Um. But it was like you're supposed to
Speaker 1: go on this night hike, and there was this whole
Speaker 1: thing was like the big thing is the night hike
Speaker 1: and then you like chew winter green lifesavers in the
Speaker 1: dark to make sparks and look at the stars through
Speaker 1: a telescope. Camp. Um. But it was too foggy to
Speaker 1: see the star, so instead they showed us Powers of
Speaker 1: ten Um by the eames Is And I've never seen
Speaker 1: it before, and it's scared the living daylights out of
Speaker 1: me because it's just like, here's space, and then it
Speaker 1: just goes here and further away and further away, and
Speaker 1: like it just never ends, and we don't know where
Speaker 1: it ends, and there's no end the end um. It's
Speaker 1: like the beginning of contact. Yeah, but I think I
Speaker 1: think now I find it weirdly consoling. I like that
Speaker 1: there's no order to things. Maybe I'm an anarchist. You
Speaker 1: definitely are an anarchist. I've been told that a few
Speaker 1: times resent and I'm like, but I like order to
Speaker 1: some things. You're a virgo anarchists, Yeah, like a an
Speaker 1: uncluttered uh chaos. Yeah. I definitely have felt bad for
Speaker 1: the planet Pluto in my life, oh for sure. I
Speaker 1: mean Pluto is also always kind of like an emotionally
Speaker 1: accessible planet. I think I like also that when you
Speaker 1: see things and it's like we don't know why the
Speaker 1: moon exists. Oh hey, speaking of which, I just wanted
Speaker 1: to spend a moon minute with you guys. Really briefly
Speaker 1: to let you know that a new study that was
Speaker 1: conducted by American and Japanese researchers hypothesized that the Moon
Speaker 1: was formed when a proto planet crashed into Earth way
Speaker 1: back in the day when Earth was just like a
Speaker 1: ton of it was covered with like a sea of magma,
Speaker 1: and then the magma splashed into outer space and then
Speaker 1: it expanded and then it like jelled together and made
Speaker 1: the moon. Isn't that a great theory? Love it? And
Speaker 1: they're like, this theory is just as viable as all
Speaker 1: the other theories, none of which we know if they're true. Well,
Speaker 1: there were like problems with previous theories that they were
Speaker 1: like gaping holes and I didn't realize we didn't know
Speaker 1: why the moon exists. Well, they didn't understand why it was.
Speaker 1: It's materials were so earthlike but also not earthlike. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I liked it the moon through a real pair of
Speaker 1: binoculars recently, and that also made my brain explain Y's
Speaker 1: like really like yeah, but it also again it's comforting.
Speaker 1: You're like, oh, we matter so little, it's great. Well,
Speaker 1: with that, with that thought, I think that does it
Speaker 1: for this week's nightcall. Thank you so much for all
Speaker 1: your night calls and night emails this week, and we're
Speaker 1: glad we had a chance to get to some of them.
Speaker 1: If you have any thoughts or night calls that you
Speaker 1: want to make yourself, please give us a call at
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Speaker 1: of stuff we have coming soon in the Night Call verse.
Speaker 1: Also watch the video Emily made. It is so amazing,
Speaker 1: especially now that you know it's all c G. I
Speaker 1: really appreciate it. I mean I want to be up
Speaker 1: for an Oscar this year. So yeah, animated short, um, yeah,
Speaker 1: we'd like to support the new season of an Emmy
Speaker 1: for Megan which is ye not I believe it's not
Speaker 1: an Emmy for me again. Uh, give Megan, Amram and
Speaker 1: Emmy and then give an invest Animation Award for let's
Speaker 1: just our beautiful animated faces. I'll try to get some
Speaker 1: awards this year, like good Time. Yeah, every season is
Speaker 1: awards season. Your own nightcall. All right, we'll see everybody
Speaker 1: next week. Thanks for listening, by bye.