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Speaker 1: Hello Sunshine, Hey fam Today on the bright Side, we're

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Speaker 1: joined by dancer, actor, Emmy Award winner, and now author

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Speaker 1: Julianne Huff. She's out with the brand new book, y'all,

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Speaker 1: and she is getting real about her healing journey and

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Speaker 1: the moment she reconnected with her body again. Trust me,

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Speaker 1: this is a story you have to hear. Plus, the

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Speaker 1: new season of Dancing with the Stars premieres tomorrow and

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Speaker 1: Julianne is sharing the secret to success on the show.

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Speaker 1: It's Monday, September sixteenth. I'm Simone Boyce.

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Speaker 2: I'm Danielle Robe and this is the bright Side from

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Speaker 2: Hello Sunshine, a daily show where we come together to

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Speaker 2: share women's stories, laugh, learn and brighten your day.

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Speaker 1: On My Mind Monday is brought to you by missus

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Speaker 1: Simone Happy On my Mind Monday.

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Speaker 2: This is always our opportunity to start the week with

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Speaker 2: something that motivates us, inspires curiosity, or provides a fresh perspective.

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Speaker 2: So I want to know what's on your mind, girl.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I can't stop thinking about this experiment that I

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Speaker 1: came across in this British newspaper or The Sunday Times,

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Speaker 1: and it's about a group of kids that went on

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Speaker 1: this month long smartphone detox and the results are wild.

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Speaker 1: So the writer for the piece, Decca Ekenhead, decided to

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Speaker 1: ban her sons from their smartphones for four weeks and

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Speaker 1: then she sent them on an unsupervised camping trip with

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Speaker 1: their friends who had also been detoxing from technology. And

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Speaker 1: you know, Danielle, she came up with this idea after

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Speaker 1: interviewing social psychologists and author of The Anxious Generation, Jonathan Height,

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Speaker 1: who we've talked about a lot on our show, and

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Speaker 1: in this book hepe points to the increasing rates of

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Speaker 1: teenage depressions, self harm, and anxiety, and he says that

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Speaker 1: smartphones and social media are to blame. He's also always

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Speaker 1: been this staunch advocate of more free play, independence, and

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Speaker 1: unsupervised time for kids. So sounds like this writer really

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Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely. Well, this sounds like a really interesting experiment.

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Speaker 2: I'm curious to hear more. You said the kids were

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Speaker 2: unsupervised in the woods. What happened?

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Speaker 1: Yes, So they're in the woods, no phones, they haven't

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Speaker 1: had phones for several weeks, and they struggled at the beginning, Danielle,

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Speaker 1: but one fourteen year old said that he started to

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Speaker 1: see that whatever's going on on his smartphone doesn't really matter.

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Speaker 1: He said, quote you'll never say on your deathbed, I

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Speaker 1: wish I'd spent more time on my phone. And several

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Speaker 1: kids had similar reactions. They said they felt less tired

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Speaker 1: after the experiment. They also learned that screen times went

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Speaker 1: down even after they came home for some of the participants.

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Speaker 1: And then another fourteen year old said he felt more

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Speaker 2: So the only comparison I can make to this in

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Speaker 2: of our camp friends feel the exact same way, and

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Speaker 2: part of it is that you are just so present

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Speaker 1: I get it.

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Speaker 2: It just seems so much harder to do today than

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Speaker 1: It's tough. Yeah, I think it can start small, though,

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Speaker 1: And so if you're the first to say, Hey, I'm

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I like this for you, very very cool. How

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Speaker 2: Well, I find it hard to not be online because

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Speaker 2: of our job, so it's like important to know what's

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Speaker 2: So I almost feel like I bake it in almost

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Speaker 1: don't subscribe to this belief that you have to text

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Speaker 2: to my text messages. I actually heard Ashton Kutcher say

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Speaker 2: Everybody emailing you really is asking for stuff, and when

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Speaker 1: This is a topic that we don't really talk about publicly,

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Speaker 1: we get to choose our own journey with this stuff,

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Speaker 2: I love how you put that, making your own rules.

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Speaker 2: I agree. And that brings me to our guest today

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Speaker 2: because she has an inspiring story of her own, one

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Speaker 2: Julianne Huff is a dancer, actor, singer, entrepreneur, and now

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Speaker 2: she's adding author to her resume with her new book

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Speaker 2: titled Everything We Never Knew. It's what she calls a

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Speaker 2: factional book, but she's inventing this genre. It's a fictional

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're going to ask her all about that and

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Speaker 1: the new season of Dancing with the Stars. This will

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Speaker 1: be the thirty third season of the competition show and

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Speaker 1: Julienne made her debut on season four in two thousand

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Speaker 1: wait to chat with Julienne, and she's joining us right

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Speaker 1: We'll be right back, y'all. Julianne Huff, Welcome to the

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much. I love the bright side.

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Speaker 1: You say everything with a smile. You are the.

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Speaker 3: Bright side, you know. Actually, somebody said that to me

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Speaker 3: And I was like, I do. And then I looked back.

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Speaker 2: I was like, oh, I do, I do the same thing.

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Speaker 2: I think it's maybe like a trauma respond. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: Julianne, this is a big year for you. You're releasing

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Speaker 1: your book Everything We Never Knew. I can't wait to

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Speaker 1: get into this book a bit more with you. In

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Speaker 1: addition to the release of your novel, what Are You

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Speaker 3: My goodness, that's a really good question. I think I'm

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Speaker 3: celebrating the fact that I feel really I know this

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Speaker 3: I really feel so content, which is a word that

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Speaker 1: What do you think was the key to unlocking that contentment?

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Speaker 1: Because that's it's so much easier said than done.

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Speaker 1: I feel like I'm looking in a mirror right now.

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Speaker 1: These things such a flex.

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Speaker 2: Well, we started this interview off with celebration, so I

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Speaker 2: want to talk about another celebration, which is the premiere

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Speaker 2: of the new season of Dancing with the Stars. So

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Speaker 2: you're back as co host along with Alfonso Robera. You

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Speaker 2: were a dancer obviously, nana judge, now a co host.

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Speaker 2: I think you have probably the most unique perspective on

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Speaker 3: The show has been a visual representation of my journey too,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean trust me, I'm like weaving. I'm like, okay,

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Speaker 3: So you know, that's what happened to me. It was

436
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Speaker 3: like this activation that like opened up for me. And

437
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Speaker 3: so I was like, I want to tell this story,

438
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Speaker 3: but I want to heighten the experiences so people can

439
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Speaker 3: have more permission to dive into a world that might

440
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Speaker 3: feel a little intimidating with self discovery and healing, and

441
00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:27,760
Speaker 3: heighten those senses so that people can really, like I

442
00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:29,800
Speaker 3: don't know, just relax into.

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Speaker 1: It, yeah and get lost in the story.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 1: So I'm so curious where does Julian end and your

446
00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:37,960
Speaker 1: main character Alexis begin.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I called my mom the other day because

448
00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:44,639
Speaker 3: she was like, man, this mom is really you. You

449
00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:46,640
Speaker 3: wrote me really mean. I was like, Mom, this mom

450
00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:48,919
Speaker 3: is not you, This mom is not you.

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Speaker 1: This is why I didn't make it a memoir exactly.

452
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Speaker 1: Now I know the real reason. It's smart.

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Speaker 3: I know. I was like, it's a combination of this person.

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Speaker 3: This person's a very So I will say that for

455
00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:05,400
Speaker 3: anybody who's followed my personal life, which I definitely put

456
00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:07,960
Speaker 3: on display for you know, many years, will be able

457
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:11,159
Speaker 3: to see a through line, but there's definite things that

458
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:14,080
Speaker 3: are not in there. I pulled real estate as her

459
00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:16,760
Speaker 3: job because my sister's a real estate agent, and I

460
00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:20,119
Speaker 3: can see parallels of that. A type personality. I'm a

461
00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:24,040
Speaker 3: type personality, but in a completely different industry. I made

462
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:28,120
Speaker 3: Shane Lexi's husband a structural engineer because that is very

463
00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:32,560
Speaker 3: grounded and rooted in like analytics, and like my ex

464
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:35,000
Speaker 3: husband was very analytical and grounded, which was like a

465
00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:39,200
Speaker 3: beautiful foundation for me to be up here. So there's

466
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Speaker 3: little themes like that. Obviously, I don't want to give

467
00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,920
Speaker 3: too much of the book away but Lexi. It says

468
00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:47,680
Speaker 3: it in like the first page, Lexi has a miscarriage.

469
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Speaker 3: And I didn't personally experience something like that, similar but

470
00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 3: not like that. But I did lose my dogs and

471
00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:01,600
Speaker 3: that feeling of loss and grief was something I've never

472
00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 3: experienced before. So there's like little pieces, but it's not

473
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:07,359
Speaker 3: direct from my life.

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Speaker 2: I have another podcast that I do and it's very booky. Yeah,

475
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:15,080
Speaker 2: and the first person I ever interviewed it was for

476
00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:18,960
Speaker 2: a book it was called The Likability Trap, and she said,

477
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Speaker 2: I'm so glad this book found you, because I think

478
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:24,479
Speaker 2: books always find people when they need them most. And

479
00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:29,159
Speaker 2: so my question for you is whose hands are you

480
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,920
Speaker 2: hoping this book gets into, well.

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Speaker 3: First of all, full chills, because that's the whole point

482
00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:40,280
Speaker 3: of this book is like for this to find whoever

483
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:45,960
Speaker 3: is going to resonate with it. And I mean my sister,

484
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:49,400
Speaker 3: I think, was the first person that read it. And

485
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:51,320
Speaker 3: she looked at me and she's like, did you write

486
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:54,600
Speaker 3: this about me? And I was like, yes, I did.

487
00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:57,720
Speaker 3: I was like no, but I'm so glad that you

488
00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:01,679
Speaker 3: feel that way. And I've been getting the same, you know,

489
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 3: messages and dms from people being like WHOA, I feel

490
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 3: so like this is what I'm going through right now.

491
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Speaker 3: Even though it's not like my personal experiences, I feel

492
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 3: seen in this. So it's that whoever it does fall

493
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:17,520
Speaker 3: in the hands to is what it should be. In

494
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,800
Speaker 3: the past, I've always like wanted my music or Beyondiancing

495
00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,560
Speaker 3: the Star is to like represent how hard I worked,

496
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:27,200
Speaker 3: and like this book for some reason, like I'm cool

497
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,200
Speaker 3: if it gets on a best seller's list, which it did,

498
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:32,200
Speaker 3: that's awesome, you know, But I only want that best

499
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:35,800
Speaker 3: seller's list so that more eyes can see it, so

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00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,439
Speaker 3: that more people can experience it and read it and

501
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:39,520
Speaker 3: feel connected to it.

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Speaker 1: So I think that's how you know you're on your

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Speaker 1: soul path.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, just see what happens. But I feel like

505
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:49,560
Speaker 3: it has a long life and whether it hits now

506
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 3: or later or somebody can read this twenty years from

507
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,639
Speaker 3: now and it will still resonate, Like that's really cool.

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00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:56,760
Speaker 3: That's really cool.

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Speaker 2: Cool. That's the coolest thing about books is the outlive Yeah, eternal. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: we have to take another short break, but we'll be

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Speaker 2: right back with more from Julienne Huff.

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Speaker 1: Stick with us. We're back with Julianne huff.

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Speaker 2: As a dancer, you're so connected to your body, and

514
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 2: I've heard you talk about the obsession with it. Even

515
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:27,639
Speaker 2: you said you're a creative, but you're also an athlete.

516
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 2: Dancers are athletes, and so you're sitting in front of

517
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,960
Speaker 2: the mirror and like picking your body apart, and it

518
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 2: becomes this obsession. I feel like, through the ether of

519
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 2: following your career, I've felt pieces of your healing journey

520
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 2: with your body, but I actually don't know the story.

521
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:46,920
Speaker 2: Where are you with it now?

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, I've never felt better. It's interesting. Even

523
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:55,400
Speaker 3: though I was a dancer, I actually wasn't as connected

524
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,159
Speaker 3: to my body as I thought I was until I

525
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 3: started going in and like doing the work and realizing, wow,

526
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:05,439
Speaker 3: I dissociated from my body a lot because my body

527
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:07,919
Speaker 3: was the thing that just went and like I was

528
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 3: burning my adrenals like it was a lot. And so

529
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:14,959
Speaker 3: when I actually started paying attention to my body, I

530
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 3: had to rest and like the inflammation that came up

531
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,400
Speaker 3: and like all sorts of things, and that was hard

532
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 3: because I was like whoa super inflamed. And then and

533
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 3: then I started getting more consistent and like I did

534
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,400
Speaker 3: Carnivore for like three months.

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00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 1: So you were like pounding beef flivver and tallow and

536
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 1: you're kind of diet rotein that's even more dream.

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00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,359
Speaker 3: I'm pretty stream. I was doing like just beef and

538
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 3: butter and like I did that for a couple of months.

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00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,639
Speaker 3: I hadn't I know, right, So I just I needed

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00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,439
Speaker 3: that also for my mental clarity because I was I

541
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,199
Speaker 3: was protein deficient all sorts of things. I had a

542
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 3: marker for an autoimmune and I was just like, hang on,

543
00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 3: I'm anything that I do I'd like really commit to.

544
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:00,639
Speaker 3: So I was like, I'm just going to do this

545
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 3: for a couple of months. Yeah, and then I'll ease

546
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 3: back in. And after I did that, like my life

547
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 3: force energy came back because I realized my brain fog

548
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,440
Speaker 3: and my clarity and my mood was just like all

549
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:13,119
Speaker 3: over the place. Yeah, the help me.

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Speaker 1: Thoughts really help with that. Okay, now I'm actually really curious.

551
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 1: I might need to get on this front of our

552
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 1: right well offline about it. I don't know what you're done.

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00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:23,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, And by the way, like I that's basically my

554
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,120
Speaker 3: diet now I just add other things to it.

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00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:31,199
Speaker 1: But yeah, do you remember the moment when the disassociation

556
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Speaker 1: ended and you felt like reconnected to your body again.

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00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 3: I don't know if there was like actually I lie,

558
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 3: I totally remember when it was wow wow, Okay, so

559
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 3: we love it on lot, Yes, I love it. It

560
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 3: was it was all during this time. So it was

561
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 3: like early twenty eighteen. I started going and taking Tai

562
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 3: Chi and Chi goong, and like, I knew the body

563
00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 3: was going to be my form of expression. So as

564
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 3: I was going through this, I met this person who

565
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:06,479
Speaker 3: was doing he called them fire sessions, and I'm so

566
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 3: connected to the elements that just like hit me. I

567
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 3: was like, oh, I want to go take this class.

568
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 3: And I remember we did this class and there was

569
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 3: like twenty of us in there and it's all visualization

570
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 3: through the elements. And as we were like visualizing like

571
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 3: this fire coming through our body and then connecting to

572
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 3: the water, it was like it was kind of like

573
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 3: a Kundalini awakening. It was like all of a sudden,

574
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 3: I was like whoa, Like I was like touching my body.

575
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 3: I was like, oh my gosh, like I like I

576
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 3: feel my oh and I was like this is incredible

577
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 3: and like I just felt my body. It wasn't just

578
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 3: this thing that like made myself perform, and it was

579
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 3: an athlete. It was like whoa, like I feel and

580
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 3: all of this energy rushing through my body. And I

581
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 3: was like, literally for like seven hours, this is this

582
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 3: is this is BTMI and watch this big clickbait. Here's

583
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 3: the clickbait for everybody who's ready. I went to dinner

584
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 3: with my mom. I stepped out of my brother after

585
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 3: this session and it ha'd been like seven hours. I

586
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 3: was like, I feel like, like not quite a climax yet,

587
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 3: and I was just like I can. I was like,

588
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:28,960
Speaker 3: what is happening? It was like fully, you know, like

589
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 3: melting in the chair. And I remember I took a

590
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 3: picture of the fountains behind me, yeah, and I sent

591
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 3: it to the person who did this session. I was like, Yo,

592
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 3: this is how I'm feeling inside of my body with

593
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 3: the fountains like exploding, you know, and I was like,

594
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 3: what the hell? He's like, Well, just you know, just

595
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 3: realize that you've been so shut off and dissociated to

596
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 3: your body. Just imagine like first person ever on Earth

597
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 3: discovering their body, like you're feeling that right now, Just

598
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 3: that permission to feel pleasure, not from someone else, but

599
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 3: just within my own body. I'm like buzzing right now.

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Speaker 3: You guys, Okay, here's the best part.

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00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 1: You're at dinner with your family, So explain how this.

602
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 3: Goes like this, I'm like, what is happening? Like, guys,

603
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 3: I gotta go home, and they're like looking at me,

604
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 3: like what is going on.

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00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 1: I'm picturing all the Midwestern moms and dads who are

606
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 1: visiting LA for the first time, and they say, Julia

607
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 1: at dinner, that's such a good story, thank you so much.

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Speaker 3: Eighteen Yeah, twenty eighteen.

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00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,959
Speaker 1: Chef probably thought it was his sushi. But there we go. Now,

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Speaker 1: there you go, Julianne, We've had such a wide ranging conversation,

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00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 1: I feel like I have to ask you a wide

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00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 1: ranging question to just wrap it all up. So I'm

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Speaker 1: going to ask you, what crossroads are you at right now?

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00:31:50,120 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 3: What crossroads? You know? I think, how do I explain

615
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 3: this what I was saying about the butterfly of like,

616
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 3: I'm in this new whole feeling, but I'm quite vulnerable.

617
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 3: I get to intentionally create my life because everything that

618
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 3: I had created to that point it all came undone,

619
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 3: and so I kind of have a clean slate and

620
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 3: even wrapping this book up, and like a lot of

621
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 3: projects that I've had kind of surfacing. They've kind of

622
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 3: like finished a cycle. And I'm open right now, and

623
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 3: so I won't really have a plan. I just know

624
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 3: I love what I do. I'm really happy with where

625
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 3: I'm at in my personal life. And I think the

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00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 3: only thing I would say is I probably want to

627
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 3: be a little bit more rooted. I've been going back

628
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 3: and forth between New York and LA and I can

629
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 3: get a little exhausting, and I just want to be

630
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 3: in one place and like create more of a routine.

631
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 3: So that is so basic, but like I mean, I

632
00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 3: just crave routine. Yeah, yeah, thank you, Thanks so much

633
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 3: for having me. This is such a fun conversation.

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Speaker 1: You're so wonderful. Thanks for coming here and for coming

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Speaker 1: in person.

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00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 3: Yeah. I love people.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, doctor Huff, the doctors in the Doctor's out.

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Speaker 3: You guys are awesome.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so fun.

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Speaker 2: Juliet Huff is the author of Everything We Never Knew,

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Speaker 2: and she's hosting Season thirty three of Dancing with the Stars,

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Speaker 2: premiering tomorrow night.

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Speaker 1: That's it for today's show. Tomorrow, we have a very

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Speaker 1: special guest, d One, the only Ev e. The iconic

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Speaker 1: Grammy Award winning rapper Eve, joins us to talk about

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Speaker 1: our new memoir, Who's That Girl.

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Speaker 2: the bright Side Pod on TikTok, and feel free to

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Speaker 2: tag us at Simone Boys and at Danielle Robe.

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Speaker 1: We'll see you tomorrow. Keep looking on the bright side.