Speaker 1: The overbearing molly coddling of ourselves creates fragility. It creates weakness,
Speaker 1: not strength, so that when a storm comes and we
Speaker 1: have to hold our own and we have to find
Speaker 1: a way to get the nourishment and the nutrition we
Speaker 1: need to stay strong and stay standing, we don't know
Speaker 1: how to look for it because we've never been able
Speaker 1: to look for it before. Hey, everyone, welcome back to
Speaker 1: On Purpose, the number one health podcast in the world.
Speaker 1: Thanks to each and every single one of you that
Speaker 1: come back every week to listen, learn and grow, and
Speaker 1: today's episode is all about growth. How many of you,
Speaker 1: and be honest with yourself, how many of you have
Speaker 1: spent the majority of your time in your comfort zone?
Speaker 1: How many of you know how hard it is to
Speaker 1: get out of your comfort zone? And how many of you,
Speaker 1: even when you try, even when you push your limits,
Speaker 1: even when you make that opportunity, you put your best
Speaker 1: foot forward, you still feel completely trapped by your comfort zone.
Speaker 1: That's what I find so fascinating about comfort zones is
Speaker 1: often we don't even know we're inside one. We don't
Speaker 1: even know that we have one. We just assume that
Speaker 1: this is what life is, this is how it works.
Speaker 1: This is how it goes not recognizing that we are
Speaker 1: being contained. We are being trapped. We are being restricted
Speaker 1: and limited by our mindsets, our beliefs, our actions, our behaviors,
Speaker 1: and so much of this limits what's possible in our lives. Now,
Speaker 1: I was reading an incredible study about how Judith Bardwick
Speaker 1: came up with the phrase comfort zone, and this is
Speaker 1: how she described what a comfort zone is. And this is,
Speaker 1: without a doubt, the best definition I've heard of a
Speaker 1: comfort zone. And you can even make a note of this.
Speaker 1: The comfort zone is a behavioral state within which a
Speaker 1: person operates in first an anxiety neutral condition. A comfort
Speaker 1: zone is a state where a person operates in an
Speaker 1: anxiety neutral condition, the second is using a limited set
Speaker 1: of behaviors to deliver a steady level of performance, and
Speaker 1: the third usually without a sense of risk. So let's
Speaker 1: look at that definition and apply it to our lives.
Speaker 1: Are we constantly trying to be in an anxiety neutral condition?
Speaker 1: Are we constantly trying to deliver a steady level of performance?
Speaker 1: And are we usually avoiding risk? So let's talk about
Speaker 1: being anxiety neutral. It's important today we all deal with
Speaker 1: so much anxiety in our lives. That we try to
Speaker 1: create a life where we have very little anxiety. And
Speaker 1: I'm sure you can all agree, and you've all had
Speaker 1: the experience of just thinking, I have too much anxiety,
Speaker 1: I have overwhelming anxiety. I am beyond my capacity and
Speaker 1: my ability to deal with anxiety. And when we feel
Speaker 1: that way, we all know that it reduces our ability
Speaker 1: to perform. We know that it makes us less foe focused.
Speaker 1: We know that we feel more distracted, We know that
Speaker 1: we don't feel happy or joyful when we are burdened
Speaker 1: with that much anxiety. We all know that because we've
Speaker 1: experienced it. We've all been at that end when anxiety
Speaker 1: is creeping up on us and it's on our case
Speaker 1: and we can tell that this isn't going to benefit us. Now,
Speaker 1: there's something fascinating there. That's one extreme. The other extreme
Speaker 1: is where we are anxiety neutral, where we have no anxiety.
Speaker 1: We're trying to create this life where we limit anxiety completely.
Speaker 1: And Dodson's Law, Yokers and Dodson. What they found was
Speaker 1: that that actually creates boredom, It creates lethargy. And maybe
Speaker 1: you've noticed this that when you have no anxiety, often
Speaker 1: we create drama or maybe you've no the people in
Speaker 1: your life that they have to create drama because we
Speaker 1: need some anxiety. We need a certain amount of anxiety
Speaker 1: that sparks action, that sparks change, that leads to creativity.
Speaker 1: And that's what Yerkers and Dodson's law talks about, where
Speaker 1: we need an optimal level of anxiety. Too much is overwhelming,
Speaker 1: and too little creates lethargy or complacency or boredom, or
Speaker 1: in some cases makes us move towards drama. It's fascinating,
Speaker 1: isn't it. It's fascinating how this works, and it's incredible
Speaker 1: how we allow ourselves to be completely restricted and limited
Speaker 1: because we believe that anxiety is negative. We believe that
Speaker 1: anxiety is bad, and that's because the anxiety that we've
Speaker 1: been dealing with has been the unhealthy, drama filled anxiety,
Speaker 1: rather than the anxiety that can be positive nerves, the
Speaker 1: anxiety that can be oh yeah, I feel a sense
Speaker 1: of activation or acceleration that I want to get out
Speaker 1: of this zone. So the reason I'm breaking down the
Speaker 1: part of the definition that's anxiety neutral is that often
Speaker 1: wanting to be anxiety neutral is not the answer, but
Speaker 1: it's often the first step, if you're at an overwhelming
Speaker 1: state of anxiety, coming back to anxiety neutral is healthy.
Speaker 1: And then shifting into optimal anxiety is a pathway that
Speaker 1: we can take. Now, how do we do that? When
Speaker 1: you're experiencing high levels of anxiety. You may practice more mindfulness,
Speaker 1: you may practice more breathwork. You may meditate with me
Speaker 1: on the car map for my daily j series. You
Speaker 1: may start putting into practice workout routines that really lowers
Speaker 1: your anxiety. And then how do you invite that optimal,
Speaker 1: healthy anxiety into your life? What do you do when
Speaker 1: you experiment? You try new things, You take a new course,
Speaker 1: you create a new opportunity, you do something you've never
Speaker 1: done before. You add very intentionally anxiety that you know
Speaker 1: is healthy. That's the difference between anxiety that is optimal
Speaker 1: and anxiety that decreases our performance is that anxiety can
Speaker 1: be intentionally invited rather than unintentionally interrupting your life when
Speaker 1: you just end up creating drama rather than creating direction.
Speaker 1: The other part of the definition that Judith Bardwick gave
Speaker 1: of the comfort zone is using a limited set of
Speaker 1: behaviors to deliver a steady level of performance. Now, what
Speaker 1: I find truly interesting about that section is that we
Speaker 1: often think that if we're able to do the same
Speaker 1: level of performance every day, then that creates reliability and
Speaker 1: stability and security. And that may be true, but we
Speaker 1: never get to experience whether our performance could increase, our
Speaker 1: joy could increase, our learning could increase. And when we
Speaker 1: say we want a limited set of behaviors, we're basically
Speaker 1: saying I'm happy with the skills I have. It's why
Speaker 1: so many people after graduating from college never ever try
Speaker 1: to learn a new skill. And what does that do?
Speaker 1: It sets us back in life because as we grow,
Speaker 1: we're required to grow new skills. As we grow older,
Speaker 1: as we experience new things in life, we're required to
Speaker 1: develop new skills. How many new life experiences have you had?
Speaker 1: This is something that Sadat or Buddha before he became
Speaker 1: the Buddha experienced. For those of you that don't know,
Speaker 1: his father tried to keep him inside the kingdom, trapped
Speaker 1: in his comfort zone, to not experience anything uncomfortable. His
Speaker 1: father didn't want him to experience the pains of life
Speaker 1: because he was scared of how it would affect his son.
Speaker 1: When his son escaped to experience life. He saw people
Speaker 1: that were unwell, and he noticed that people got sick.
Speaker 1: He met people in old age, and he realized people
Speaker 1: got old. He was only ever surrounded by youth. And
Speaker 1: then he saw someone die, and he realized that people died.
Speaker 1: He wasn't aware of that. He was so overprotected and
Speaker 1: kept so distant from old age, disease, and death that
Speaker 1: he grew up believing that they didn't exist. And his
Speaker 1: father thought that this would strengthen him and protect him.
Speaker 1: What's really fascinating, though, is that when we protect ourselves
Speaker 1: from experiencing any sort of pain, we actually make ourselves
Speaker 1: more fragile. It's a paradox. You'd think that if you
Speaker 1: protect someone from pain, they get stronger. Actually, if you
Speaker 1: protect someone from pain, they get weaker. They get more
Speaker 1: fragile because they don't know how to deal with it
Speaker 1: when it inevitably will arise in their life. There's a
Speaker 1: beautiful story of two families that live next door to
Speaker 1: each other. One of the families tended perfectly to the
Speaker 1: plants in their garden. They perfectly measured the amount of water.
Speaker 1: They perfectly manage the sunlight. They perfectly took care of
Speaker 1: the soil. Everything was done with extreme accuracy. The other family,
Speaker 1: they cared, They were loving, they were kind to their plants,
Speaker 1: but they weren't always completely accurate. They didn't always get
Speaker 1: it perfectly right, and often their plants didn't look as
Speaker 1: healthy as the next door neighbors. One day there was
Speaker 1: a storm. The storm was horrific. Everyone had to stay
Speaker 1: indoors for days, and neither of the families could tend
Speaker 1: to their plants. A few days after the storm was over,
Speaker 1: both these families came out of their homes to see
Speaker 1: their gardens destroyed. But there was one thing fascinating. The
Speaker 1: family that tended perfectly and accurately to their garden, their
Speaker 1: plants were completely demolished. Their plants had not survived. Now,
Speaker 1: the family that was loving and kind and tried their
Speaker 1: best but were not always perfect or completely accurate, some
Speaker 1: of their plants had survived. Some of their plants had
Speaker 1: made it through the horrific storm. The other family was
Speaker 1: completely amused. How is this even possible? How does that
Speaker 1: even happen? How does that happen? The lesson is really
Speaker 1: interesting that the overbearing molly coddling of ourselves creates fragility,
Speaker 1: It creates weakness, not strength, so that when a storm
Speaker 1: comes and we have to hold our own and we
Speaker 1: have to find a way to get the nourishment and
Speaker 1: the nutrition we need to stay strong and stay standing,
Speaker 1: we don't know how to look for it because we've
Speaker 1: never been able to look for it before. Whereas those
Speaker 1: plants that had to look for some of their own unnourishment,
Speaker 1: they had to look for some of their own stability
Speaker 1: all the way they were able to act on that muscle.
Speaker 1: When we rely on a limited set of behaviors to
Speaker 1: deliver a steady level of performance, we set ourselves up
Speaker 1: for failure because chances are that we're going to have
Speaker 1: a life experience that surprises us. We're going to have something. Now,
Speaker 1: this doesn't apply to how we deal with others. It
Speaker 1: applies how we deal with ourselves. Are we setting ourselves
Speaker 1: up to be fragile by overprotecting ourselves from certain types
Speaker 1: of pain? Now I'm not saying we invite pain. I'm
Speaker 1: not saying we choose pain. I'm not saying to put
Speaker 1: ourselves into pain or put others into pain. What I'm
Speaker 1: saying is where are we staying in our comfort zone
Speaker 1: which is restricting us from growth? Where are we staying
Speaker 1: limited in our comfort zone. That is blocking us from
Speaker 1: achieving our potential. Where are you so trapped in your
Speaker 1: comfort zone because you're scared? And that's fair. I understand that.
Speaker 1: I know what that feels like. I was scared once
Speaker 1: upon a time that I wasn't an entrepreneur. I stayed
Speaker 1: in the comfort zone of being an employee, and I
Speaker 1: would always repeat the words, I'm not an entrepreneur. Today,
Speaker 1: I can't imagine being anything but one. Now, I'm not
Speaker 1: saying that you have to be an entrepreneur. What I'm
Speaker 1: saying is that so many of the titles, so many
Speaker 1: of the status is, so many of the roles we
Speaker 1: take on in life are limited. They're limited by our
Speaker 1: current perception of ourselves, and our current perception could be
Speaker 1: trapped by our comfort zone. And the final part of
Speaker 1: the definition is usually without a sense of risk. Now,
Speaker 1: risk is a really fascinating subject. There are four types
Speaker 1: of risk takers. The first is the conservative risk taker,
Speaker 1: who doesn't take many risks, as we're saying, someone who
Speaker 1: stays in their comfort zone. Casual risk takers they just
Speaker 1: take risks. They hear the NFTs are a thing. All right,
Speaker 1: let's throw some money at it. Crypto is a thing,
Speaker 1: all right, let's throw some money at it. And casual
Speaker 1: risk takers often don't get the rewards because it's so
Speaker 1: casual in intention and in planning that they're really relying
Speaker 1: on luck and they can often have low luck. Now
Speaker 1: beyond that are calculated risk takers. These are people that
Speaker 1: do all the data, they do all the analysis, they
Speaker 1: do all the calculations, and they're very aware of how
Speaker 1: they take risk. This requires deep research and deep knowledge.
Speaker 1: And finally you have conscious risk takers. Conscious risk takers
Speaker 1: are people who apply both intuition and data. They take
Speaker 1: some inspiration and they add insight. They look at the
Speaker 1: stats and they look at the patterns. Now, the interesting
Speaker 1: thing here is that the conscious risk taker is not
Speaker 1: better than the conservative risk taker. The point is that
Speaker 1: it's a journey that we almost go on as far
Speaker 1: as we want to go, and taking bigger risks doesn't
Speaker 1: make more bold. It doesn't make you more courageous. It
Speaker 1: doesn't make you more strong or powerful. It could be stupidity,
Speaker 1: to be honest, it could be ego based, but we
Speaker 1: have to develop a little bit of being a bit
Speaker 1: more pro risk because of the growth that is possible
Speaker 1: when we are able to do that. So I've defined
Speaker 1: for you how our comfort zone restricts us and how
Speaker 1: we stay limited by that. And there's a brilliant diagram
Speaker 1: called leaving the comfort zone. This is a famous diagram
Speaker 1: and it's been out there on many different sides and places.
Speaker 1: I believe the original source maybe from a psychology study,
Speaker 1: and it talks about how there are four zones. It's
Speaker 1: the journey we have to take from the comfort zone
Speaker 1: to the fear zone, to the learning zone to the
Speaker 1: growth zone. So a lot of people say, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: we'll just jump from the comfort zone to the growth
Speaker 1: zone start growing. That doesn't really happen. That sounds like
Speaker 1: a big decision, a big difference, and doesn't sound realistic.
Speaker 1: So there are two ways of starting this journey. One
Speaker 1: is to move step by step by expanding our comfort zone,
Speaker 1: and the other is to deep dive immersively in being
Speaker 1: out of our comfort zone. Often what we do is
Speaker 1: we don't take the little steps, but we jump in
Speaker 1: the deep end alone. But it's both of the approaches.
Speaker 1: It's the little step mixed with the big immersive experience
Speaker 1: that makes the difference. So in this diagram, the comfort
Speaker 1: zone is a place where we feel safe. We feel secure,
Speaker 1: we feel stability, we feel control. And that's why you
Speaker 1: often hear the idea that if you're not failing, if
Speaker 1: you're not making mistakes. I believe it was Albert Einstein.
Speaker 1: You said, you're not trying anything new. If you're trying
Speaker 1: something new, if you're trying to grow, if you're trying
Speaker 1: to do something different, there will always be failure in
Speaker 1: your life. If you're experiencing failure, it's because you're trying
Speaker 1: something that's never been done before. If you're experiencing rejection,
Speaker 1: it's because you're trying something that is new for you.
Speaker 1: When I find that there's inconsistency, or there's disconnection, or
Speaker 1: things are hard to explain, I get excited about it
Speaker 1: because I remind me and my team we're doing something different,
Speaker 1: we're trying something that hasn't been done before. This is normal.
Speaker 1: We should expect this. It would be surprising if everything
Speaker 1: actually went smoothly. If everything went smoothly, it means we're
Speaker 1: not doing anything incredible. We're not trying anything new, we're
Speaker 1: not trying to do anything magnanimous. So the fear zone
Speaker 1: as described in this diagram is a place where we
Speaker 1: find excuses and we're affected by other people's opinions. How
Speaker 1: many of us don't try anything new because we're scared
Speaker 1: of what will people say? We're scared of what will
Speaker 1: people think. Let's really talk about this. I remember being
Speaker 1: really scared of this, and I've now realized that what
Speaker 1: people think and what people say have genuinely no impact
Speaker 1: on the quality of my life. We live so much
Speaker 1: for perception and reputation that we give up purpose and
Speaker 1: what's truly rewarding. The question you have to ask yourself
Speaker 1: is what's more important to me my passion or my perception.
Speaker 1: What's more important to me my purpose or my perception.
Speaker 1: What's more important to me my potential or my perception.
Speaker 1: What's more important to me the reward or the reputation.
Speaker 1: What's more important to me respecting myself or others respecting me?
Speaker 1: What's more important to me the realizations and the reflections
Speaker 1: are gain or the reputation I hope to maintain. Think
Speaker 1: about that deeply. Which one is going to satisfy you
Speaker 1: most in the long run. Which one is truly going
Speaker 1: to bring you a center of joy? It's the answers
Speaker 1: to those questions that help us get out of living
Speaker 1: in the world of excuses and being affected by other
Speaker 1: people's opinions. The learning zone, as described in this diagram
Speaker 1: is dealing with challenges acquiring new skills, and I find
Speaker 1: this to be the place where we need to spend
Speaker 1: most of our time. I want to share with you
Speaker 1: the biggest news of the year. How many of you
Speaker 1: want to meditate? I can see your heads nodding, I
Speaker 1: can see you raising your hands. I can see you saying, yes, Jay,
Speaker 1: I really want to learn to meditate. How many of
Speaker 1: you would like to learn to meditate with me every
Speaker 1: single day? Now? I already know what the answer is
Speaker 1: because I know how many messages DMS reviews notes that
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Speaker 1: I did a podcast a few years ago where I
Speaker 1: talked about the five stages of growth. Learn, experiment, perform, struggle, thrive.
Speaker 1: That's the journey of learning. We think we should already know,
Speaker 1: we should have it figured out. Maybe you want to
Speaker 1: get into NFTs, maybe you want to get into crypto,
Speaker 1: or maybe you want to get into social media. Maybe
Speaker 1: you want to do a podcast, and we think we
Speaker 1: should just know how to do it, or if we
Speaker 1: just start and we feel passionate about it, it will work.
Speaker 1: That doesn't work. That truly doesn't work. What works is
Speaker 1: following this five step system. Let me first learn about
Speaker 1: the industry. Let me read books about the industry. Let
Speaker 1: me listen to podcasts about the industry. Let me listen
Speaker 1: to the experts. Let me do a course from the industry.
Speaker 1: That's learning. Learning means diving deeply into getting good industry
Speaker 1: based knowledge. The next step is let me experiment with
Speaker 1: what I learned. Okay, well, Jake said that, Let me
Speaker 1: experiment with that, Let me try that out. Let me
Speaker 1: actually apply that. Let me put that into practice and
Speaker 1: see what I learned. So now I'm not just saying, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: I did that course, I know how to do it. No,
Speaker 1: let me actually apply, let me practically put that into
Speaker 1: my reality. Oh I learned that I should record a
Speaker 1: podcast in that way, Okay, let me do that. Oh
Speaker 1: I learned that I should post it that time on
Speaker 1: social media, Let me put that. Okay, I learned that
Speaker 1: I should be part of discord. Okay, let me do that.
Speaker 1: Let's actually test an experiment. And in testing and experimenting,
Speaker 1: there will be lots of false starts, there will be
Speaker 1: lots of mistakes. So we start with mini tests and
Speaker 1: mini experiments, and there's mini tests and mini experiments give
Speaker 1: us confidence, to give us learning. We're allowing ourselves to fail.
Speaker 1: When do we allow ourselves to fail? That is getting
Speaker 1: out of our comfort zone. We have to allow ourselves
Speaker 1: to make mistakes. I allow myself daily weekly to make mistakes.
Speaker 1: I'm okay now with making mistakes because that's the only
Speaker 1: way I'll grow. We all know this. It's so well known,
Speaker 1: the analogy of when you're learning to walk. You have
Speaker 1: no idea how many times you fell down, but you
Speaker 1: got back up, and you walk today without falling down,
Speaker 1: hopefully regularly. Right, But imagine you just said no, no, no,
Speaker 1: If I don't walk this time, I'm not getting up again.
Speaker 1: If it doesn't work this time, I quit. We'd still
Speaker 1: be crawling as adults. We don't want to be crawling
Speaker 1: as adults. Think about that for a moment. The next
Speaker 1: stage is perform. Once you experiment, you get into a
Speaker 1: cycle of consistency. You perform, you deliver. You're in the
Speaker 1: zone now, and of course you have struggle. You struggle
Speaker 1: at every step, but struggle definitely comes to this step
Speaker 1: because now you have to innovate. Now you have to create.
Speaker 1: Now you have to pivot. Performance requires pivoting, it requires adapting.
Speaker 1: Then you get to thrive. You finally thrive. But the
Speaker 1: problem is we want to go from I like this too,
Speaker 1: I want to win at this. I like this too.
Speaker 1: I want to be the best of this. I enjoy this.
Speaker 1: It should work. We skip every single step that is
Speaker 1: in this journey to actually get to thrive, to actually
Speaker 1: get to the space where we win. So how do
Speaker 1: you get out of your comfort zone this week? I
Speaker 1: want you to start really small one thing. Maybe take
Speaker 1: a new journey to work this week. Try a new path,
Speaker 1: try a new road, just take a new journey to work.
Speaker 1: Another way to get out of your comfort zone is
Speaker 1: work in a different environment this week. You may hate
Speaker 1: it at first, but give it a go. Another way
Speaker 1: to get out of your comfort zone is have a
Speaker 1: cold shower in the morning. Give it a go. And
Speaker 1: then you may take on a new project at work.
Speaker 1: You may take on a new responsibility. You may take
Speaker 1: on a new course or a new program. What is
Speaker 1: it that you can do to start small and then accelerate.
Speaker 1: I really hope that this encourages you and helps you
Speaker 1: navigate what it means to get out of your comfort zone.
Speaker 1: I appreciate you tuning in and being a part of
Speaker 1: this community, and I want to to take these last
Speaker 1: few minutes to read some of my favorite reviews that
Speaker 1: have seen about on purpose And as always, please give
Speaker 1: your name because I want to read your name out.
Speaker 1: This is Keyana. I've been listening to Jay for about
Speaker 1: a year now and reading his book Think Like a
Speaker 1: Monk I'm on a healing journey and wanting to find
Speaker 1: more peace within as well as live a life of mindfulness,
Speaker 1: and this podcast has been more than insightful. I often
Speaker 1: listen to discuss what I've learned with friends and even
Speaker 1: shared the podcast with friends and family. It has helped
Speaker 1: me enjoy being in the present as well as being
Speaker 1: mindful with my choice throughout my day to day. I
Speaker 1: will continue to tune in and apply the knowledge to
Speaker 1: my everyday life. Keiana, that brings joy. Thank you so
Speaker 1: so much. I'm so grateful to read that. Okay, looking
Speaker 1: for more names everyone, This is Jen. The timing of
Speaker 1: when you started your podcast was truly perfect. It came
Speaker 1: at a time of so much turmoil and pressure in
Speaker 1: the world. I had to readjust my spiritual journey last year,
Speaker 1: and God has honored my spiritual reach out in so
Speaker 1: many ways your podcast. I've found so much great advice
Speaker 1: in your episodes, and I am abundantly grateful for your life.
Speaker 1: I've started considering signing up a genius as well to
Speaker 1: grow even more towards my life purpose. Thank you, thank you,
Speaker 1: thank you, Chen. I love that. Okay, I'm going to
Speaker 1: read one more. I love how long these are, and
Speaker 1: how beautiful these are. They're truly incredible. I'm going to
Speaker 1: read one without a name because i just want to. Jay.
Speaker 1: I cannot even tell you how many different podcasts have
Speaker 1: gone through. On Purpose is the only podcast I've been
Speaker 1: listening to from the beginning and stayed subscribe to. Your
Speaker 1: content is so original and refreshing. It makes me excited
Speaker 1: to jump out of bed every Monday and Friday morning.
Speaker 1: It starts and ends my work week in the best way.
Speaker 1: Thank you for keeping us entertained and educated. You've made
Speaker 1: the podcast world a different place. Thank you for leaving
Speaker 1: your podcast. We're nearly at seventeen thousand, five hundred podcasts
Speaker 1: by the end of this year. We want to reach
Speaker 1: twenty thousand. Please, Peace, Peace, come and help us. Thank
Speaker 1: you for listening. I'll see you next week.