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Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast, Swings on three and old counts.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Answers. I'm coming to you from

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Speaker 1: my room is filled with heroes, Mark Cesli, Chris Wesling

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Speaker 1: and Greg Rosenball. What's up boys? Hey? Dan, it's Mondays

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Speaker 1: with Wests. That three outcount thing. I mean, it's all situational.

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Speaker 1: You can't just go up there hacking when you're down

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Speaker 1: by five runs and nobody on base. You know, it's

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Speaker 1: literally on the situation. You know, we were texting a

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Speaker 1: little bit and I'm like a super newby to the sport.

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Speaker 1: But Dan, I liked your take on this that you

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Speaker 1: presented to us in private, which I don't know if

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Speaker 1: you'd want to share in public. Maybe not. No, I

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Speaker 1: would not. I would never share my thoughts on the

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Speaker 1: Fernando Tatis junior controversy in public. Uh oh. I was saying, well,

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Speaker 1: this is a bit, this is a bit stale. Now,

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Speaker 1: this is like last week's news. But uh the young

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Speaker 1: Padres star who we saw at Western Bachelor Party a

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Speaker 1: year ago in fact, but now he's become a superstar.

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Speaker 1: The Padres were kicking somebody's ass. I think it was

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Speaker 1: the Rangers last week, and uh it was a three

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Speaker 1: account with the bases little late in the game, his

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Speaker 1: co his manager, the other team was hoping he would

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Speaker 1: not swing at the meat ball thrown right over the

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Speaker 1: middle of the plate on three oh Tatis, said Effort.

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Speaker 1: He said he didn't see the sign. He hit four

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Speaker 1: thirty feet. Everybody was mad at him. And then sports

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Speaker 1: Twitter does this thing as someone that follows base all

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Speaker 1: very closely, and it's one of my favorite, like sportswriter

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Speaker 1: tropes concerning baseball. Sportswriters and baseball writers love to let

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Speaker 1: you know that they're on the side of being against

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Speaker 1: the old rules the way the game should be played,

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Speaker 1: and they want that out front, and they want to

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Speaker 1: make sure. I don't want to say who the person was,

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Speaker 1: but there's one person that actually has ties to our

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Speaker 1: company that also does baseball stuff. He took time out

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Speaker 1: from his off day video chat video chat pool side

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Speaker 1: to let it be known that he sided with Fernando

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Speaker 1: Tattoos Jr. As well. It's just one of my funny

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Speaker 1: thing that I've noticed in that realm. Well, it's also

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Speaker 1: one of those like, hey, I might be out on

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Speaker 1: a limb here, But don't you know, I think it's

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Speaker 1: fine to swing in three out. It's like, yes, you

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Speaker 1: and of the people that's it's not really a take.

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Speaker 1: Everyone agrees with it. There's very few people who disagree

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Speaker 1: at this point, so it's like not an interesting thing

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Speaker 1: to talk. Everyone younger than Bob Feller agrees with it.

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Speaker 1: I like how he stole the next day. That was when.

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Speaker 1: That's when he won me over and night. I'm still

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Speaker 1: learning the basic rules, so forget the unwritten rules. I

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Speaker 1: don't need to deal with that. You keep saying that

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Speaker 1: you worked at Baseball Weekly and you grew up a

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Speaker 1: big baseball fan. I'm confused, Like, did all that information

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Speaker 1: just you know, seep out of your brain? Oh entirely,

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Speaker 1: Like you could I stopped following football or working in football.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know how many how many of these

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Speaker 1: absurd names, you know, second third string safeties and linebackers

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Speaker 1: would go immediately into the hemisphere. I mean I would

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Speaker 1: be spending my time completely differently. And that was when

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Speaker 1: I worked for Baseball Weekly. I mean that that is

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Speaker 1: not a lot of knowledge to connect the dots. My

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Speaker 1: my move, I said to Mark, was to take the

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Speaker 1: side of the unwritten rules on Twitter. Be like, I

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Speaker 1: believe in the unwritten rules and they should be respected,

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Speaker 1: and that that would get you some pop if you

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Speaker 1: some retweets. And all right, it is west Monday, and

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Speaker 1: this is three in a row with Mr Westling, which

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Speaker 1: which means we're on a streak. Speaking of baseball, it's

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Speaker 1: a ripke In like streak. Let's go for it. It's

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Speaker 1: a Joe d type streak. Why don't we go for

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Speaker 1: fifty six straight weeks? West? Um, how you feeling, by

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Speaker 1: the way, feeling all right? My back hurts a little it,

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Speaker 1: but um, it just just depends on the day. Um.

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Speaker 1: few weeks ago. Alright, so we have progress. I think

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Speaker 1: that's valid. Call it progress, not a progress stoppers. Bill

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Speaker 1: Parcels would say one of my favorite parcelsism. Actually, it

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Speaker 1: came up actually on Friday's edition to the Around the

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Speaker 1: NFL broadcast, which I hope you guys are tuning into

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Speaker 1: and uh, if you are checking in on the subreddit,

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Speaker 1: there's a link up there if you missed it when

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Speaker 1: live streaming on Friday, and we'll have another episode coming

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Speaker 1: up Friday today's show. Yes, Yes, Greg hit me that

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Speaker 1: I wasn't expecting. Uh. It is ironic that Bill Parcels

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Speaker 1: know about that. That is reductive thinking, but that's your opinion.

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Speaker 1: That's fine. Um, all right, today's show, we're talking about

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Speaker 1: hype teams. Every year there are a few teams that

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Speaker 1: year is no different. Mark. You know all too well

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Speaker 1: that it was your team that was the hype bunny

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Speaker 1: champion of didn't work out. Um, but this is a

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Speaker 1: this year. If there's a team that's the hype team

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Speaker 1: champion like the Browns of and more importantly, what teams

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Speaker 1: then will end up surprising people once we start playing football.

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Speaker 1: That's coming up later, but first let us do you

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Speaker 1: some news pulls up three pointer fine, pit's goods the

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Speaker 1: game at the buzzer. You can't tell us to stick

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Speaker 1: to football. We we cover all the sports baby today. Yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: of the Dallas Mavericks. Just the virtuoso performance. Uh. And

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Speaker 1: I texted West yesterday after the game. I hadn't been

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Speaker 1: like Mahomes special potentially. Uh. In the NBA's twenty one

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Speaker 1: It's a shocker. Luca Don was a star in the

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Speaker 1: I Mean the best tweet I saw was the Bears

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Speaker 1: Never happy. They've decided the Ravens to abruptly part ways

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Speaker 1: I'm sure they have difficult questions. They've had multiple questions

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Speaker 1: about what I'm doing in general for for decades. So

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Speaker 1: you know you're right and rest in the peace ed

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Speaker 1: Cessler the first eighteen eighty one to nineteen fifty not

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Speaker 1: you not You haven't totally nailed the name there, But

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Speaker 1: um I see, I appreciate the lineage check, thank you? Okay,

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Speaker 1: cool alright. In other news, the Chargers have their wide

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Speaker 1: receiver room thinned out because rap sheet reports that Mike

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Speaker 1: Williams has been diagnosed with the sprained shoulder. He's week

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Speaker 1: to week. We don't like to hear a week to

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Speaker 1: week at this stage. We're too close to the season.

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Speaker 1: In fact, the season come Thursdays, two weeks away from

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Speaker 1: kicking off for two weeks and three days for the

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Speaker 1: rest of the teams. Uh so, yeah, there's a there's

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Speaker 1: a good chance they are, says so that Mike Williams

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Speaker 1: isn't available for Tyrod Taylor and company. And that is

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Speaker 1: not great. I mean, outside of Keenan Allen, the the

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Speaker 1: what's left at wide receiver is super concerning. You got rookies,

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Speaker 1: You've got Joe Reid, kJ Hill, I mean, uh, you

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Speaker 1: got Tyrod Taylor at quarterback. I don't love this offense

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Speaker 1: at all right now, depending on what happens here. It

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Speaker 1: worries me. When we talked about last week whether the

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Speaker 1: Charges would be a team of a t l candidate.

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Speaker 1: They remind me a little bit too much of the

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Speaker 1: Detroit Lions of the past couple of years, where they're

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Speaker 1: so shallow at the scalp skill positions. Running back if

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Speaker 1: Ekeler gets hurt there in trouble, wide receiver, if Williams

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Speaker 1: is out there in trouble, tight end of Hunter, Henry's

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Speaker 1: out there in trouble. They just don't go deep at

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Speaker 1: any of those spots. They they are a team screaming

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Speaker 1: to sign a veteran wide receiver at cuts or make

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Speaker 1: a trade because those guys you mentioned, not one of

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Speaker 1: them as an NFL catch. I asked Daniel Jeremiah Buddy

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Speaker 1: who he thinks would even start for this team. He

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Speaker 1: thinks it would be kJ Hill, who's a rookie late

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Speaker 1: round pick, because he looks pretty polished, but I mean

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Speaker 1: that that is that's pretty grim. They need to make

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Speaker 1: a move and because Williams and Keenan Allen have both

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Speaker 1: have had their issues with injuries over the years. Finally,

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Speaker 1: in the news, reportedly seventies seven individuals connected with NFL

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Speaker 1: teams tested positive for the coronavirus over the weekend. However,

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Speaker 1: the NFL later cleared all those individuals who tested positive

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Speaker 1: after what it's testing partner called and isolated contamination during

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Speaker 1: test preparation. So now all of those tests, all seventy seven,

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Speaker 1: as the report is attributing the number at have been

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Speaker 1: classified as false positives. Great news and on top of

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Speaker 1: the great news, but also a little bit troubling. We'll

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Speaker 1: get to that in a second. Tom Pallisa reported just earlier,

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Speaker 1: uh this hour that Dr Alan Sills that guy's a

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Speaker 1: rock star. The NFL's chief medical officer says from August

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Speaker 1: twelve to twenty, there were fifty eight thousand three tests

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Speaker 1: tests administered, including three thousand, two hundred and sixty two players.

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Speaker 1: Six confirmed positive test zero among players. So this continues

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Speaker 1: to go really well. However, not great that there was

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Speaker 1: a contamination because what if that happens on Saturday before

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Speaker 1: week four, right, Like one of those players who had

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Speaker 1: a false positive was the starting quarterback for the Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 1: So what happens if this, if this occurred three weeks

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Speaker 1: from now on a Saturday night Sunday morning and Josh

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Speaker 1: Allen can't get cleared in time for the starting game.

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Speaker 1: Do they delay the game? Do they work with the

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Speaker 1: company they have faster results? I think this, uh, incidents

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Speaker 1: might cause them to um shore up a few things

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Speaker 1: in their rules there, right, Like they there was some

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Speaker 1: you know, some talk about maybe the game scenarios, you

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Speaker 1: get this stuff done on Friday, uh, in case this occurs.

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Speaker 1: But it's it's like the good news is it wasn't positives.

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Speaker 1: That would have been like a nuclear bomb landing on

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Speaker 1: the NFL. But like the concerning fact that you're sort

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Speaker 1: of held hostage by these test results and they're and

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm like, along with Josh Allen, Kevin Stefanski

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Speaker 1: tested positive according to this and he didn't have it,

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Speaker 1: And they missed practice. The whole team, UH did a

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Speaker 1: walk through instead of a padded practice, which some of

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Speaker 1: these you know, programs can't afford all that to happen,

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Speaker 1: and I don't know. I mean, it's you're just rolling

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Speaker 1: the dice and whenever it lands on a twenty sided

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Speaker 1: Dungeons and Dragons, dice lands on twenty. So it seems

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Speaker 1: like the system working. Though it seems like the system working,

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Speaker 1: obviously don't want this to happen, and you hope nothing

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Speaker 1: this widespread would happen again. But that's good. They every

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Speaker 1: everyone was playing, it's safe. Like if the Bills lose

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Speaker 1: a game because it goes wrong because it's testing, you

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Speaker 1: lose a game, it's like or the delay the game,

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Speaker 1: it sounds more like, but that wouldn't be. Everything's going

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Speaker 1: fine if the Bills lose a game because of I'm

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Speaker 1: just saying in the scheme of things, the fact that everyone,

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Speaker 1: like the Browns got their practice delayed from eight am

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Speaker 1: to two thirty pm, it actually seems like it's a

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Speaker 1: system working where like they're not trying to cut corners. Uh,

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Speaker 1: and this this was not ideal, but the whole point

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Speaker 1: is to just prevent an outbreak. And as long as

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Speaker 1: that's like not happening, I don't know, I mean, I

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Speaker 1: guess I'm not that worried about like teams getting a

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Speaker 1: one game delayed or or even like some competitive disadvantage

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Speaker 1: whether you like lose a game. Well, I think the

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Speaker 1: good news is is that, I mean, even after all

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Speaker 1: all these positives rolled in, like I think the teams

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Speaker 1: themselves knew something was suspicious. There we were you know,

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Speaker 1: if you're tracking on Twitter, you weren't buying that they

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Speaker 1: were all positive, you know, an hour into it, because

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Speaker 1: how successful it has been with non you know, the

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Speaker 1: low percentage of positive cases. But that is a thorny

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Speaker 1: side show. If that occurs six times over the year,

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Speaker 1: I I wouldn't shrug that off. This is one of

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Speaker 1: my favorite of Greg's infamous Who cares? I mean you're

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Speaker 1: saying that. You're saying if there's a false positive and

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Speaker 1: the starting quarterback misses the game and they're at a

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Speaker 1: competitive disadvantage, it doesn't matter. Actually, the process to which

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Speaker 1: this all happened is totally understandable, and it's positive, like

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Speaker 1: it's a good thing and that's it. Like they would

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Speaker 1: I'm sure they would delay a game if if they

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Speaker 1: thought there was any chance that it was a false positi.

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Speaker 1: But the process that this is all happening is what

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Speaker 1: we want, right, I just can't imagine telling that Bill's fan, Hey,

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Speaker 1: we made you sit your quarterback even though he doesn't

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Speaker 1: have COVID and you lost the game. Just deal with

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Speaker 1: it this year. Yeah, you know, there's more important things

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Speaker 1: than your team winning, of course, but I think, like

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Speaker 1: that's not a small thing. Whether he actually has COVID

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Speaker 1: or not should be the determining factor whether you can play.

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Speaker 1: You've brought that up several times during this crisis, Greg

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Speaker 1: that like, ultimately who cares? That's small potatoes, But within

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Speaker 1: this miniature world, it's a huge deal, even if within

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Speaker 1: the bigger I'm not saying who cares. I'm saying the

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Speaker 1: process is what like we're looking forward to work, and

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Speaker 1: it seems like it worked here. Nothing really bad happened,

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Speaker 1: no one was put at any risk, and all the

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Speaker 1: teams were back like within twelve hours. So it just

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Speaker 1: doesn't seem like it's too big of a cause for

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Speaker 1: a longer. As Mark said, they should tighten up some things,

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Speaker 1: and I think the testing is primarily gonna be on

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Speaker 1: Fridays to avoid something like this happening. Anyways, And because

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Speaker 1: I spent all my time with a nine and eight

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Speaker 1: year old, can I ask you can I say, what

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Speaker 1: does small potatoes mean? What? What would be the why

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Speaker 1: is something small potatoes versus a normal size sized potato issue?

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Speaker 1: I have the etymology for you. I don't it just

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Speaker 1: it's a weird maybe in the context of like a

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Speaker 1: maybe in the context of a big dinner plate. That's

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Speaker 1: how I pictured. And you got a big, delicious piece

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Speaker 1: of steak and maybe some delicious greens on the side

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Speaker 1: next to that, and then there's some small potatoes on

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Speaker 1: the plate, and it's like, we're not going to focus

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Speaker 1: on that because that's not nearly as important as the

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Speaker 1: other stuff on the plate. Well, it's also of the

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Speaker 1: thirty for thirty on Donald Trump in the USFL. Right,

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Speaker 1: small potato. That's what he said infamously of the USFL

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Speaker 1: after it folded, after he helped his spearhead moving it

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Speaker 1: to take the NFL on head to head, and then

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Speaker 1: the league promptly folded. Uh. He kind of washed his

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Speaker 1: hands of the league and said it was small potatoes

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Speaker 1: to start with. Enraged enraged people. Yes. Dating from the

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Speaker 1: mid nineteenth century, the phrase suggests not bothering with undersized

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Speaker 1: spuds while harvesting or buying the vegetable. Yeah, you need

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Speaker 1: those big big ones or else just get rid of it.

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Speaker 1: It's like real men, farmers of the earth. All right,

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Speaker 1: that's what's happening in the news. What an informative, you know,

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Speaker 1: well rounded episode of the podcast. So far, I've learned

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Speaker 1: about all the major sports, just about hockey accepted, and

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Speaker 1: now I've learned about small potatoes background. What a ride,

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Speaker 1: And we're just getting started because now let's talk hype.

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Speaker 1: And I will give a little hat tip here to

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Speaker 1: Kevin Clark over at The Ringer who wrote a piece

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Speaker 1: last week talking about hype and how people often hype

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Speaker 1: up the wrong teams and how that happens and why

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Speaker 1: that happens. Um, So it just gave me the kernel

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Speaker 1: of an idea, and I thought one way that kind

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Speaker 1: of take that thought, the thought of hype, and then

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Speaker 1: spinning a different direction. It's actually trying to figure out

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Speaker 1: who these teams are as we approach week one. So

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Speaker 1: I kind of was going through the team's boys and um,

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Speaker 1: trying to figure out, first of all, who are the

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Speaker 1: teams that are getting kind of if there's a hype champion,

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Speaker 1: and unfortunately Mark the Browns were last year and then

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Speaker 1: it did not work out for Cleveland. In fact, you

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Speaker 1: could you could say, and I think Clark wrote this

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Speaker 1: in his pieces as well, The Night two thousand nineteen

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Speaker 1: Browns and the two thousand eleven Eagles, the quote unquote

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Speaker 1: dream team, which, by the way, Vince Young said dream team,

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Speaker 1: And I think that always kind of got buried a

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Speaker 1: little bit. Vince Young, who is, I believe, a backup

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Speaker 1: quarterback at that point. He's the one that said and

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Speaker 1: then people attached that to everyone in the organization. Maybe

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Speaker 1: not so fair, but that was the other team everyone

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Speaker 1: said taking him to the super Bowl they bombed as well.

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Speaker 1: Those are the two I think biggest high teams. Anybody

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Speaker 1: else have another like monster hype team of the past

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Speaker 1: ten years that jumps out to you that fell on

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Speaker 1: its face. This year's to Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Okay, so

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Speaker 1: let's get into it that way, because, um, the teams

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Speaker 1: when I kind of went through the list, tell me

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Speaker 1: if I'm missing a hype champion contender for or if

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Speaker 1: one that I have here, I have five doesn't belong.

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Speaker 1: So I have the Colts, the Bucks, the Cowboys, the Cardinals,

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Speaker 1: and the Bills. There's teams that have all seems begaun

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Speaker 1: a lot of love in the industry, and their fan

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Speaker 1: bases are on fire about their Super Bowl chances, and

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Speaker 1: there seems to be a very popular sentiment that these

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Speaker 1: teams are gonna take their game to the next level.

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Speaker 1: Is that any of those five teams Indie, Tampa, Dallas, Arizona,

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Speaker 1: Buffalo not deserved to be there? And do you see

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Speaker 1: another team that does deserve to be there? I think

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Speaker 1: outside of the Buccaneers, I've heard the Broncos more than anyone.

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Speaker 1: And maybe that's just like selective viewing on my end,

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Speaker 1: but I think the cults are a reflection of this podcast.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure if I hear a ton of Colts

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Speaker 1: talking elsewhere. The Cowboys are the one in that list.

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Speaker 1: Actually a hard hard time thinking of like who this season?

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Speaker 1: Um is so clear the Bucks sure in terms of

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Speaker 1: media attention. I don't know how if how many people

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Speaker 1: are gonna be picking them to win the division, even

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00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 1: though against the Saints. I guess they find out. But

639
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,319
Speaker 1: the Bills make a lot of sense to me. The

640
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 1: Cowboys make a lot of sense to me, and then

641
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 1: the Bucks certainly fit. The Bucks are in their own category.

642
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:16,799
Speaker 1: I mean, I I find the exercise a little tough

643
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 1: because we're talking about this. I think it happens because

644
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 1: you're talking about this stuff NonStop when when the league

645
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 1: is in stasis and not a lot is really occurring,

646
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 1: and then camp starts and suddenly the teams looked hot

647
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 1: at twelve injuries and they're off the list. But the

648
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:35,759
Speaker 1: Bucks have been a bee line from start to finish. Yes,

649
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 1: I'm with you on that, and it makes sense. They're

650
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:42,440
Speaker 1: a team that UM finished strong defensively last year that

651
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 1: everyone kind of agreed that Jamis Winston was killing them

652
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 1: and uh, certainly with the turnovers that you can make

653
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 1: a strong case that that was the case. And then

654
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 1: they go and get Tom Brady and gronk it all

655
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,839
Speaker 1: the recipe is all there. So I would say, yes

656
00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 1: that that they feel like they might end up being

657
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty hype champions. And Arians has coached some

658
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 1: hyped up teams that came through, I mean with the

659
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:09,800
Speaker 1: Colts and then certainly with the Cardinals. I think Arians

660
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 1: being there gives them UM a sense of professionalism and

661
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,359
Speaker 1: like that they actually could be legit in a way

662
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:20,399
Speaker 1: that a lot of hype teams maybe don't have. Where

663
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 1: I'm actually, you know, you buy into it a little

664
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 1: more when you have Arians and Todd Bowls who have

665
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 1: worked together and have some skins on the wall in

666
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 1: the NFL right where that Eagles team ed Vince Young,

667
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,239
Speaker 1: as you said that the Browns team from last year

668
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 1: had a second year quarterback in a coach that um

669
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 1: apparently never took notes or game plans. So I mean,

670
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 1: you know you liked the makeup of the box a

671
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:42,839
Speaker 1: little bit more. Somebody reminds me, was Vince Young they're

672
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 1: starting quarterback in two thousand and eleven. It wasn't right, no, no,

673
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 1: but I would say that even though he's the one

674
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:50,959
Speaker 1: who said it, there was nobody on the Eagles saying

675
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 1: this guy's not. This guy's crazy. Everybody he kind of

676
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 1: captured the spirit of whatever. Basically, we were already good.

677
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 1: We signed Non the awesome, while vic vic had, you know,

678
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 1: a little flirtation with the m v P award We're

679
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 1: gonna fly. But no, this was before Namdi Asoma was

680
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:07,799
Speaker 1: eating lunch alone in his car in the in the

681
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,320
Speaker 1: locker room was falling a part of the scene exactly.

682
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 1: They went, uh, yes, they went eight and eight that season.

683
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 1: It's amazing how we think of Namdi Asima now versus

684
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 1: before that season, he was mentioned like like he was

685
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 1: Derel Revis. He was two or three years right, and

686
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 1: he was thought of as a guy who was going

687
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 1: to be in the Hall of Fame. I mean, I

688
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:33,439
Speaker 1: think of him now as Mr Mr Carey Washington having

689
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 1: a pretty good Hollywood career as an actor. Just you know,

690
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 1: pretty rare that you pull that off. That was Mark

691
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 1: and I second season at NFL, and I remember that

692
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 1: was when the Jets and Rex Ryan were at their peak.

693
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 1: The Jets were said to be in the driver's seat

694
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 1: to get him, and everybody was going nuts about Namdi

695
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 1: and Revas in the same secondary. And then he went

696
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:55,840
Speaker 1: to the Eagles and he did not in addition to

697
00:36:55,920 --> 00:37:02,799
Speaker 1: his issues with teammates, he did with lunch and loneliness. Man,

698
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 1: we've all been there. I don't know, but he didn't

699
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 1: play well. All right, So let's get into now. Uh,

700
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 1: let's bring up some teams that deserve more hype this season,

701
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 1: and maybe if they're in the best position possible, you

702
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 1: kind of it's better to be under the radar and

703
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:24,400
Speaker 1: then um kind of make your mark on the season,

704
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 1: jump up a win or two or three get to

705
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 1: the playoffs, make some noise, Greg, do you have a

706
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:32,880
Speaker 1: team to you that deserves a little more hype than

707
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,359
Speaker 1: they've gotten and are primed to do some damage. It's

708
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 1: a tricky exercise because we're like reaction reacting almost to

709
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 1: what we've said to because we are the cognizenting, you know.

710
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 1: But I do think when I when I thought about it,

711
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:47,400
Speaker 1: what I tried to think about, what team has a

712
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:49,959
Speaker 1: chance to be in a conference championship game that really

713
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 1: no one is thinking about in that way. And I

714
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 1: have two teams, but I'm gonna throw out one that

715
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 1: we haven't talked about in this way in a long time,

716
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 1: and that's the Los Angeles Ran. I just I just

717
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 1: think that their floor last year for offense was average.

718
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 1: And it's an offense first league. It's a quarterback. When

719
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 1: I went back and looked at when I did the

720
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:15,799
Speaker 1: QB index in I had golf seventh. I mean, he

721
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:20,479
Speaker 1: really did play well that season. If their floor last

722
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 1: year was average and they averaged about thirty thirty five

723
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 1: points in the last five weeks of the season on offense,

724
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 1: then you then you think they should get better on

725
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:33,319
Speaker 1: offense this year. They should be closer to a top

726
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:36,280
Speaker 1: ten offense with woods and cut back makes a huge difference.

727
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 1: I really like cam Akers. Their offensive line is a problem,

728
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 1: but Higbee finally came through for them. You have Gerald Everett,

729
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,360
Speaker 1: like you have plenty of weapons, you have a good quarterback,

730
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 1: and you have what we thought is a great play caller.

731
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 1: Then you go to the other side of the ball

732
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 1: and you have superstars. You have Jalen Ramsay and Aaron

733
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 1: Donald to build around. You have a secondary which I

734
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 1: think has some um promising players. Troy Hill played well,

735
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 1: John Johnson has been good over over the years. Really,

736
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 1: their safety um Combo is one of the better ones

737
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 1: in the league potentially with Taylor rap if he if

738
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 1: he can play well, and to me, there's a lot

739
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 1: there and there's sort of an organizational success that I've

740
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 1: seen in the past that Hey, a little like the

741
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:16,799
Speaker 1: Seahawks going into last year. If you're bad seasons nine

742
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 1: and seven, I'll give you a chance to win or

743
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 1: eleven or twelve games. And they're a team that because

744
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:25,279
Speaker 1: of the losses and because of how last season was disappointed.

745
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:27,239
Speaker 1: I feel like we just haven't talked about a lot

746
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,400
Speaker 1: this off I'm with you, but I I think that

747
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 1: Golf was a different player behind that offensive line. Last question,

748
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 1: they didn't do much to address that the run game

749
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 1: wasn't the same. I mean, I think this is the

750
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:41,240
Speaker 1: most interesting RAMS team in Los Angeles for me, because

751
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 1: you're you're basically this is sort of not a rebuild,

752
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 1: but they a re I guess, a reload with new players,

753
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 1: and in Sean McVeigh. The luster, uh you know, dimmed

754
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,400
Speaker 1: a bit last year. I think that's all just perception.

755
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 1: I mean, I think he's still the same coach, but

756
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 1: everyone looks different when the offensive line is not functioning. Yeah,

757
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 1: this is this is a team I had at the

758
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 1: top of my list to um uh, you mentioned Sean

759
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 1: mcveigh's lost some luster. I still think every bit as

760
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 1: highly of him as I once did. And I was

761
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 1: reading an old article where the year after Jeff Fisher

762
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:17,759
Speaker 1: left and McVeigh came in, less Sneed was hoping the

763
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,959
Speaker 1: offense would go from about thirty second to maybe twenty,

764
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 1: and McVeigh kind of looked at him with a sparkle

765
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:24,759
Speaker 1: in his eye and said, really, that's it. You think

766
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 1: we can only get the twentieth huh? You know? And

767
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 1: they were top five, they were one of the they

768
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 1: had one of the most dramatic turnarounds ever. And it's

769
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 1: just that confidence that McVeigh has, just that innate confidence

770
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 1: that he's smarter than the other coaches. I buy it.

771
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 1: I think he's still got it. And this year he

772
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 1: doesn't have to spend the games handing off to to

773
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 1: a guy who can't make people miss. And I think

774
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:47,440
Speaker 1: I think that is a media construct on several some

775
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:50,439
Speaker 1: level as well, that McVeigh three or four years ago

776
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 1: he was what Kyle Shanahan is now, where everyone was

777
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 1: just raving about how he's the future, and no one

778
00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:59,279
Speaker 1: sees the game like he sees it. In three or

779
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 1: four years from how Kyle Shanahan will be where McVeigh

780
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:04,879
Speaker 1: is now and somebody will be talking about some other guy.

781
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 1: I think that's just the nature of it. So I

782
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 1: think it's good that we're, you know, we're being responsible

783
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 1: about this. Sean McVeigh is still Sean McVeigh. There's no

784
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,760
Speaker 1: reason to think that he can't cook up a great offense.

785
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:16,800
Speaker 1: Let me throw a team from the a f C

786
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:20,359
Speaker 1: out there. Um it is the Pittsburgh Steelers, and I

787
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 1: know that feels I'm sorry that was well you with

788
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 1: feel free to tag team they are a team that

789
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 1: we're so great on defense last year and it's incredible

790
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 1: that they almost made it to the playoffs. Um with

791
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 1: with Duck Hodges and Mason Rudolph who were hysterically well,

792
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 1: hysterically and historically terrible like after Big Bend ripped up

793
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:49,760
Speaker 1: his tendons in week two and from week two on,

794
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 1: the Steelers had two games where they had more than

795
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 1: two yards passing too. This is twenty nineteen NFL. And

796
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 1: while that was going on, while that offense was hitting

797
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:04,319
Speaker 1: the wall and James Conner on top of that was

798
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 1: battling injuries, and defenses were stacking the box because they

799
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 1: knew that there's no quarterback that could beat them, and

800
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 1: it was just a train wreck. The defense evolved into

801
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:15,799
Speaker 1: one of the best in the league, led by a

802
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 1: trio of superstars and Devin Bush who hit the ground running,

803
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 1: micka Fitzpatrick, great trade, t J. Watt, who is a

804
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:27,360
Speaker 1: defensive Player of the Year type player. So you factor

805
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 1: in that the great defense, You factor in the schedule,

806
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:33,359
Speaker 1: which is the second easiest in football. You factor in

807
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 1: Big Ben Roethlisberger being back, and the idea that Okay,

808
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:40,759
Speaker 1: maybe he's done. Maybe at this age he's done. And

809
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:43,279
Speaker 1: if he is, or if he gets hurt again, they

810
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:46,759
Speaker 1: didn't do a good job with the quarterbacks upgrading that room.

811
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 1: They put too much faith in Big Ben staying healthy.

812
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 1: But okay, a lot of you could. You could name

813
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:53,320
Speaker 1: twenty nine other teams that will go down the toilet

814
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 1: if they're starting quarterback quarterback gets hurt. Big Ben's one

815
00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 1: of them, and the Steelers are one of them. So

816
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 1: I'm saying Big Ben is kind of Big Bennets. He

817
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 1: doesn't have to be his best version of himself and

818
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 1: just that that leadership and that ability at quarterback will

819
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 1: make them a better or even an average or even

820
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:12,880
Speaker 1: very good offense. Pair it with the defense, and this

821
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 1: is a super Bowl level team and people aren't talking

822
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 1: about that because people are just dwelling like a d

823
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 1: D set on Friday show, the Network show, Oh is

824
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:23,760
Speaker 1: Big Ben? Skinny's Big Ben Fat? Can you throw spirals anymore?

825
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:26,799
Speaker 1: Big Fan doesn't have to be a superstar. He just

826
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 1: needs to be pretty good. And this team is gonna

827
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 1: go deep, deep, deep into January. I think part of

828
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 1: the problem for Pittsburgh is, you know, a like we

829
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:36,719
Speaker 1: we just remember what happened the year before, and so

830
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 1: there's that they were eight and five by the way,

831
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:40,320
Speaker 1: and that was what I was thinking. Mike Tomlin is

832
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 1: a coach, my type of Coach of the Year candidate

833
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 1: because of what he was coaching around to get them

834
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 1: to eight and five. Then the wheels just fell off,

835
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 1: and it's not a surprise that they did this. To me,

836
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 1: is UH an issue with the fact that you're in

837
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:54,839
Speaker 1: the same conference with the Chiefs and the Ravens who

838
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:57,360
Speaker 1: are superpowers, and it's like, how do you get past

839
00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:59,800
Speaker 1: those guys if you want to make an argument for Pittsburgh.

840
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,839
Speaker 1: They're always there if they're healthy. And I I that

841
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 1: was my pick two right out of the gate, and

842
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 1: I to me, I think guys like Deonte Johnson he's

843
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 1: gonna be I could see a huge lead from him.

844
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 1: And you know, I add who was on our our

845
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:16,280
Speaker 1: around the NFL broadcast on Friday. She kind of ended

846
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 1: my um my season uh with with her whispers because

847
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 1: she had she went to Pittsburgh's practice and we had

848
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 1: her come on to talk the whole a f C

849
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 1: North and she went to Cleveland's and she I don't

850
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 1: think since she really because we were running out of time,

851
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 1: she didn't really get to say what she wanted to

852
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:35,320
Speaker 1: say at the end there, which was that the difference

853
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 1: between how those two teams were practicing right now was

854
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 1: so stark and so night and day that it Honestly,

855
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 1: I have not escaped that conversation in my mind since

856
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 1: um but I want to put the positive light more

857
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 1: on the fact that it's Pittsburgh. It's Mike Tomlin, you

858
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 1: know what she's being really, but it's also styles. It's

859
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 1: stylistic choices. Tom drive them tackling to the ground and

860
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 1: has them high energy, and there's a lot of leaders. Look,

861
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:07,239
Speaker 1: I I kind of buy into everything Dan said and

862
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 1: what you're saying, so I'm not really arguing, but the

863
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 1: fact that they're practicing differently. There's twenty five other teams

864
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 1: that are doing no tackling at all, that aren't going

865
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 1: to run like the crazy practices that Tomlin does. That's

866
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 1: their style of works for them. I don't necessarily like

867
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 1: the Rams are the complete opposite and the Chiefs are

868
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:25,840
Speaker 1: the opposite in some ways, And I don't know that

869
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be too worried about this. How quiet I

870
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:33,799
Speaker 1: am gonna get too worried about trust me, this is me,

871
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:38,240
Speaker 1: not you. I'm I'm freaking out about it. So yeah, uh,

872
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 1: you know, and I guess the other part of it is.

873
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 1: DD also mentioned that the Ravens are much much better

874
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 1: this year. We'll see. Listen, they went fourteen and two

875
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 1: last year, and I know they in January, but it's

876
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 1: way more likely that they probably are an eleven or

877
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 1: twelve win team or even below that. Uh, if you

878
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:58,319
Speaker 1: just go off you know history, what it tells us,

879
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 1: which West often is instructive, instructive, good out of division

880
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 1: schedule though for that, I think sometimes you look at

881
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:09,839
Speaker 1: the division schedule and you think, what what divisions can

882
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 1: sneak two or three teams? And that's a concern with

883
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 1: my first pick, the Rams, because that division, the NFC

884
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 1: West is really tough. A f C North, the division

885
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:20,400
Speaker 1: is pretty good. But out of division and play the

886
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:22,360
Speaker 1: a f C South and then the NFC East, you

887
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 1: get the you know, the Washington football team, you get

888
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 1: the Giant. You know, I I like them piling up

889
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:29,920
Speaker 1: some wins out of the division, both the Steelers and

890
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 1: the Ravens and the Browns for that matter. Can I

891
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:34,239
Speaker 1: offer a quick one and I won't go on about it.

892
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 1: I I think that UM and this is a team

893
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 1: that when I think sort of year after year we

894
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 1: say this team would go five and eleven or eleven

895
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:43,759
Speaker 1: and five because it's I don't think that's changed. That's

896
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 1: the Texans. But I think the DeAndre Hopkins trade UM

897
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 1: turned everyone so vehemently against Bill O'Brien, the general manager,

898
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 1: that we forget that he's a good game day To me,

899
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:57,279
Speaker 1: I think he's a good game day coach. And they

900
00:46:57,320 --> 00:46:58,800
Speaker 1: always seem to be in the mix. You still have

901
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 1: to Shaun Watson. I really don't hate the group of

902
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:04,320
Speaker 1: wide receivers. You've got Brandon Cooks, Randall Cobb, Will Fuller.

903
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:06,800
Speaker 1: Now they all have to stay healthy. That's an X factor.

904
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 1: If David Johnson, David Johnson did not arrive in a casket,

905
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:13,399
Speaker 1: I am just saying he's he's an actual player who

906
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 1: might be good. I'm not. I didn't love the trade

907
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:17,839
Speaker 1: at all, but I'm not writing him off quite yet.

908
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:20,719
Speaker 1: You've got pieces offense. He actually did and it was

909
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:22,840
Speaker 1: like an undertaker thing in w w F where he

910
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:25,440
Speaker 1: sat up dramatically and the crowd went insane. Well, I

911
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 1: like that see. I like that. Then he understands the

912
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:30,879
Speaker 1: perception and he's saying I'm not don't put me, don't

913
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 1: put me six ft under quite yet. I just think

914
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 1: the Texans, if they were in the final four in

915
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 1: the a f C, I wouldn't be surprised at all

916
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 1: if they snuck into the NFC Championship game. Not surprised

917
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:43,319
Speaker 1: at all. I like your premise here. I think people

918
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:46,800
Speaker 1: are way too down on their offense because of losing

919
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:48,880
Speaker 1: that big name DeAndre Hopkins. I mean, not just the

920
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 1: big name, a great receiver, but like you said, still

921
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 1: an above average wide receiver, corps quarterback, quarterback, five quarterback,

922
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:01,319
Speaker 1: the best offensive line they've had there and years. Uh

923
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 1: to me. The problems on the other side of the ball,

924
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 1: and they haven't fixed a secondary that's just rotten. But

925
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 1: but I agree with you on their offense and they

926
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 1: should not surprise people if they were right back in

927
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:12,719
Speaker 1: the mix of things as they always are. Maybe they

928
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:17,239
Speaker 1: could get Earl Thomas. No, I would put them in

929
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:19,479
Speaker 1: the their own kind of category, and maybe you could.

930
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:21,400
Speaker 1: I just think Earl Thomas is trouble. I don't know,

931
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 1: but maybe you can put them in a category of

932
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 1: teams that have a high floor and a lower ceiling.

933
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:31,439
Speaker 1: To me, they exist in kind of this realm where

934
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 1: I can kind of see them going eight and eight

935
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:36,400
Speaker 1: or ten and six, and not really too much in

936
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:39,319
Speaker 1: either direction outside of that. And I don't think they

937
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:41,279
Speaker 1: could sneak into the a C championship because I don't

938
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:43,400
Speaker 1: think you really can, first of all, sneak into the

939
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:45,799
Speaker 1: conference championship game often unless you have a buy And

940
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 1: I don't see them as a team that wins multiple

941
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:49,840
Speaker 1: playoff games. I don't know. I just think they have

942
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:52,279
Speaker 1: a roof. Uh, the ceiling is the roof. As a

943
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:54,239
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan once said, I agree with both of you,

944
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:57,320
Speaker 1: and I got one team. I think that's got championship roof.

945
00:48:57,960 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 1: But a lot of things got to go right. That

946
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 1: are not a lot of teams that people are talking

947
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:04,840
Speaker 1: about right now. The Eagles are as under the radar

948
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 1: as as they've been in a long time, probably probably

949
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:12,320
Speaker 1: since Doug Peterson took over, maybe since that Sam Bradford

950
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 1: Chip Kelly year, maybe maybe even further back. And and

951
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:18,719
Speaker 1: they have a you know, a decently low floor. But

952
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:21,320
Speaker 1: they've been as injured as any team in the NFL

953
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 1: the last couple of years, they've still made the playoffs.

954
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:26,400
Speaker 1: You know, they still won that division over Dallas without

955
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 1: anyone healthy at receiver at the end of last year.

956
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 1: And I do think they're kind of a boomer Bus

957
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 1: team that could that could go seven and nine or

958
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 1: eight and eight. But I do think they have super

959
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:37,319
Speaker 1: Bowl upside. They have to have a lot of things

960
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:40,360
Speaker 1: go right. They already lost Brandon Brooks. But if Dillard,

961
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:42,440
Speaker 1: their first round pick at left tackle, plays like a

962
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 1: first rounder, you got him and Lane Johnson, and you

963
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 1: know Peter's playing guard like Kelsey's still there, that could

964
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:51,920
Speaker 1: be a really good offensive line. On the defensive line,

965
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:54,920
Speaker 1: you got Malik Jackson back, he's supposedly looking good. You

966
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 1: still have Graham, you still have Fletcher Cox Uh, you

967
00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:01,880
Speaker 1: have Darius Slay in the secondary. They like their secondary

968
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 1: depth more than ever. You need to Shaun Jackson to

969
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:08,239
Speaker 1: stay healthy, Jalen reagor Uh to do some things that

970
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 1: It is a lot of ifs, But I think if

971
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:12,280
Speaker 1: you just looked at like, hey, if they're top twelve

972
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 1: players stayed healthy and you stacked up their team versus

973
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 1: everyone else's top twelve players staying healthy, the Eagles are

974
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 1: up there, and we know their coach is good. We

975
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:25,600
Speaker 1: know their quarterbacks pretty good. I mean, maybe he's not

976
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:28,439
Speaker 1: top three, but he's good. Like they I don't see

977
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:31,239
Speaker 1: why they should be discounted as a team, um that

978
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:32,799
Speaker 1: can go to the super Bowl. Maybe that's because I

979
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:34,319
Speaker 1: just picked them to do that every year, and I

980
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:36,920
Speaker 1: just hoping I picked them last year and that that one.

981
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:39,400
Speaker 1: I mean, I like that you have Washington in your division,

982
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:42,239
Speaker 1: you have the Giants. That's gonna help. It's not you're

983
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:44,360
Speaker 1: not gonna all it's not a dog eat dog division.

984
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 1: But they're also playing the af C North. They got

985
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:49,279
Speaker 1: a first place schedule. I mean there, they could be thorny.

986
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:50,879
Speaker 1: I don't know if they're gonna get a buy. I mean,

987
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:53,319
Speaker 1: you're the only one team does now. But I mean

988
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:56,400
Speaker 1: the road to get to the conference championship will be tough.

989
00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 1: This isn't fun because there's no way to predict it,

990
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:02,440
Speaker 1: and even if you could, that would be a crappy

991
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:04,319
Speaker 1: thing to predict as well, even though Mark you've been

992
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:07,080
Speaker 1: known to do it. But injuries play such a huge

993
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 1: part in this, Like when you're trying to figure out

994
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 1: who that team is gonna be and uh, this from

995
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 1: Football Outsiders via the Clark piece that they've been tracking

996
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 1: adjusted games LOS since two thousand one, says that metrics

997
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 1: shows that injuries are higher in the past six years

998
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:26,839
Speaker 1: than in previous seasons. And you know that it is

999
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:30,360
Speaker 1: a gauntlet, and you it's a battle war of attrition,

1000
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 1: and that ends up becoming as big as Look at

1001
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 1: the Eagles last year, the Steelers last year. That's just

1002
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:37,920
Speaker 1: luck to me. Some people say I hate this, but

1003
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:42,360
Speaker 1: some people say that luck or health is a skill.

1004
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:45,920
Speaker 1: I don't know, man. I think sometimes you just get lucky.

1005
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 1: A guy rolls up on you or he doesn't, and

1006
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:50,719
Speaker 1: that's gonna affect these teams. People want to be the

1007
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:55,360
Speaker 1: quarterback and play his first postseason game never you know,

1008
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 1: one of the primary points of that article from Kevin

1009
00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:01,680
Speaker 1: Clark that you mentioned this is based on um is

1010
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:03,720
Speaker 1: that we miss a lot on the hype teams because

1011
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:07,040
Speaker 1: of we don't factor in offensive and defensive lines. They're

1012
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 1: harder to I guess gauge, and I think that's a

1013
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 1: little bit unfair. I think most analysts, most pundits do

1014
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:16,080
Speaker 1: factor in the lines, but they're like every other position,

1015
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:19,319
Speaker 1: they're unpredictable. You think a team is gonna have a

1016
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 1: good line and then the right tackle goes down in

1017
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:23,799
Speaker 1: week two, or you think they're gonna have a good

1018
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:26,600
Speaker 1: line and they just don't gel because their first round

1019
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 1: pick isn't ready and he's not a good player. Um.

1020
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:31,839
Speaker 1: But what you know, back to the Colts, that's one

1021
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:33,880
Speaker 1: of the reasons to believe that they're they're legit. And

1022
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 1: I think the Ravens and Chiefs have to be considered

1023
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:39,279
Speaker 1: by far the class of the a f C. But

1024
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 1: then right after that are the Colts because the offensive

1025
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:44,759
Speaker 1: line they've been together with since their third year now

1026
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:47,719
Speaker 1: where they have the same exact starting five, they're one

1027
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:50,279
Speaker 1: of the top five units in the league. There. And

1028
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:54,400
Speaker 1: then the defensive line. That defensive Matt Eberflus has the

1029
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:57,759
Speaker 1: most important, most important position on that defense is the

1030
00:52:57,840 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 1: three technique tackle and they go out and get the

1031
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 1: Forest Buck. Yeah. I think that was a huge pickup

1032
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:07,120
Speaker 1: and he's gonna play better than ever. You know, there

1033
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 1: is Stephen Holder there. Beat writer put a report out

1034
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 1: today that Jonathan Taylor, who is going to ease like

1035
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:15,720
Speaker 1: offensive Rookie of the Year type candidate obviously is getting

1036
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:18,680
Speaker 1: to the second level. UM over and over and over

1037
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 1: behind that offensive line. Now that's happening against the Colts defense.

1038
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:23,880
Speaker 1: So you know, make of that what you will. But

1039
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:27,319
Speaker 1: you know, Michael Pittman, Jonathan Taylor, Paris Campbell's getting a

1040
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 1: lot of buzz and Rivers you know, unlike some of

1041
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:33,000
Speaker 1: these guys, isn't going somewhere where he's you know, having

1042
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:36,400
Speaker 1: to start completely from scratch. He and Frank Reich, Nick Sirianni,

1043
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 1: these guys all know each other and work together well.

1044
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:40,600
Speaker 1: So you could see it being a very smooth transition

1045
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:42,480
Speaker 1: if you get a good Rivers year. I like it too.

1046
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:44,920
Speaker 1: The last time that we were talking about the Cults

1047
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:47,759
Speaker 1: on this podcast with Wes, he was rightly calling out

1048
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:51,520
Speaker 1: the idea of Rivers throwing timing balloons deep into secondaries.

1049
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:54,520
Speaker 1: That's got to be a concern about a hype team, though, Wes,

1050
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 1: the old quarterback who's a turnover machine, it is you

1051
00:53:58,200 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 1: just don't know. I mean, that's one of those things

1052
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:02,840
Speaker 1: where you gotta wait for the games because these old quarterbacks.

1053
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 1: It's the same thing with Tom Brady. Like to me,

1054
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:07,520
Speaker 1: it was obvious that we saw a drop off in

1055
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:10,919
Speaker 1: Tom Brady's skill set last year. People who are close

1056
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:12,960
Speaker 1: to the to the Patriots disagree with that, so we'll

1057
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:15,320
Speaker 1: see how it plays out. I thought it was obvious

1058
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:18,520
Speaker 1: that we saw a decline in Philip Rivers too, and Greg,

1059
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 1: I don't think so as much, So we'll see kind

1060
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:24,800
Speaker 1: of how that plays out. Rivers was on Inside Training

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Speaker 1: Camp Live with Siciliano, Our Our Buddy and Kurt Warner

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Speaker 1: last week. I just hearing Philip Rivers speak with like

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00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:34,719
Speaker 1: a Colts hat on and talking about the whole opportunity

1064
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 1: like it's surreal, and it's got me fired up. I

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Speaker 1: really do think it's one of the best storyline and

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00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:41,279
Speaker 1: it's not getting a ton of national attention, but he's

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00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:44,000
Speaker 1: such a great NFL figure and if they can pile

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00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:45,880
Speaker 1: up some wins early and they kind of become one

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Speaker 1: of those teams everyone's talking about, I think it's something

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Speaker 1: people can get behind America American. Greg, you didn't categorize

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Speaker 1: Kurt Warners or buddy. Would you like to cycle back

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Speaker 1: and give him that label? Well, we did do the

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Speaker 1: show with him on on Neil Reynolds. With Neil Reynolds

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Speaker 1: in the NFL UK, I was gonna say Sky Sports

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Speaker 1: that was not for Sky. I don't know Kurt personally. Um,

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Speaker 1: you know, I guess he was aware of us based

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Speaker 1: on being on that show with him, but I don't know.

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Speaker 1: If I don't know if you guys see him personally,

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Speaker 1: I'd like to be Neil at one point said something

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Speaker 1: to Kurt and then set me up on something and

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Speaker 1: Kurt looked at me like I was a contest winner.

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Speaker 1: That's your call. So I don't think we can safely

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Speaker 1: classify him as a friend. It's a little early, by

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Speaker 1: the way. Winner. That reminds me, UM, have something we

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00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:41,960
Speaker 1: meant to talk about a few weeks ago about our

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Speaker 1: friends overseas. While we're on the topic, that Sky Sports

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00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:51,239
Speaker 1: has a brand new NFL channel and it's it's debuting,

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00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:56,000
Speaker 1: it's unveiling with the opening kickoff and continuing on through

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00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:59,160
Speaker 1: all sorts of content hopefully. Uh. It sounds like they

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00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:02,480
Speaker 1: might put our broadcast show that we're gonna do during

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00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:04,920
Speaker 1: the season previewing games there. They might put it on

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00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:08,799
Speaker 1: that Sky Sports NFL channel. So big, big cheers to

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Speaker 1: Neil Reynolds, and I don't want to call him out,

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00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 1: but that would be foolish not to. I mean, we

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Speaker 1: are the pre eminent NFL podcast overseas. Here's my correct

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Speaker 1: deposit information. Should I be factoring a windfall into this

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00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:26,960
Speaker 1: for the Wesleyan House within The answer is no, but

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00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:32,520
Speaker 1: great visibility for the entire Westling family. Before we sign off,

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Speaker 1: Does anybody have like a thirty seconds or less team

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Speaker 1: out there? Because I had one more. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if anybody. I'll give you a lightning, give me a

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00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:44,560
Speaker 1: lightning one, I'll give you a Chicago Bears. And I

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00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:47,279
Speaker 1: wish they would have got a different I wish they

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00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:49,480
Speaker 1: would have got a different quarterback. But Nick Foles isn't

1105
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:51,439
Speaker 1: the worst in the league, and this defense was super

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00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:54,400
Speaker 1: Bowl caliber two years ago. Um, we know they can

1107
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:56,319
Speaker 1: do it on one side of the ball. I think

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00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:58,279
Speaker 1: you could see some bounce back years for guys like

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Speaker 1: Allen Robinson, Tariko and ave In Montgomery. Alright, and I'll

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Speaker 1: throw out the Seattle Seahawks, a team that I as

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00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:09,120
Speaker 1: much as they gave up for Jamal Adams, I like

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Speaker 1: the move because it showed a sense of urgency I

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00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:15,640
Speaker 1: think is necessary in that building where since the Malcolm

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Speaker 1: Butler incident, as we'll call Super Bowl forty nine, that

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Speaker 1: team has they They've won the their division once in

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00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:29,160
Speaker 1: those five years. They've not been to the title game

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00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:31,880
Speaker 1: in the NFC a MC since, but because they have

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00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:34,800
Speaker 1: to me a top five quarterback in Russell Wilson every year,

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00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:38,480
Speaker 1: they're in contention at a certain point, and Russell Wilson's

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Speaker 1: about thirty now or thirty one. You got an now

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Speaker 1: take that next step and become a Super Bowl contender again.

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00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:45,120
Speaker 1: So I like the Adams move and maybe they could

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00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:48,760
Speaker 1: leverage that to to take the next step on defense.

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Speaker 1: So that's a team to keep an eye on, because

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Speaker 1: I think people are so used used to the Seattle

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Speaker 1: Seahawks going eleven and five and playing a playoff game

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00:57:57,120 --> 00:57:59,360
Speaker 1: or two that nobody even like is looking at them

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00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:02,360
Speaker 1: as super Bowl tenders or teams are a team that's bad,

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00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:05,400
Speaker 1: that should be criticized. They're just in the mix. It's

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00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:07,120
Speaker 1: time to take a step up, and maybe they can

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00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:10,000
Speaker 1: with Adams, who's obviously a special player on defense. Mean

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Speaker 1: you look how banged up the Niners are right now

1133
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:14,800
Speaker 1: on on all over the place. Like it, it makes

1134
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:16,320
Speaker 1: some sense if you can get out to a fast

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00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:17,880
Speaker 1: start in the Niners get out to a slow one.

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00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:20,720
Speaker 1: The Seahawks have had a mediocre defense for three straight years,

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Speaker 1: so they're they're getting to the playoffs and winning a

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Speaker 1: playoff game here and there with a mediocre defense. So

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00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:29,120
Speaker 1: you're right, there is some upside there, Dan, if the

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Speaker 1: defense actually becomes an asset on top of Russell Wilson. Look,

1141
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:35,760
Speaker 1: it's not easy to beat Josh McCown with his calf

1142
00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:39,520
Speaker 1: ripped off his phone in January. So I credit where

1143
00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:43,440
Speaker 1: credit is due. And obviously, yes, that was a gutsy

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00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:47,240
Speaker 1: effort by Seattle. It goes without saying that because of

1145
00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:49,360
Speaker 1: the Jamal Adams trade and how personal it was for

1146
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:51,800
Speaker 1: me as a Jets fan, I needed to step off

1147
00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:56,800
Speaker 1: formally Seahawks Corner in I say goodbye, But like Earl Thomas,

1148
00:58:56,880 --> 00:59:00,760
Speaker 1: my Instagram story, despite bad blood, was one of respect.

1149
00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:04,640
Speaker 1: They said, Hey, Seattle Seahawks, great working with you. I

1150
00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:06,520
Speaker 1: really had a fun time with you in twenty nineteen.

1151
00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:09,800
Speaker 1: Thank you for the opportunity and best best wishes going forward.

1152
00:59:10,120 --> 00:59:13,400
Speaker 1: Seahawks and Seahawks Corner. Am I alone on the because

1153
00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:16,080
Speaker 1: Greg stepped off at last, lose track of which one

1154
00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:17,880
Speaker 1: of which one of you guys are trying to kiss

1155
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:21,760
Speaker 1: butt on Seahawks Corner. I'm not on it, mob. They

1156
00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:27,480
Speaker 1: got there in the Pacific Northwest Twitter. But less is

1157
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:30,160
Speaker 1: gonna get a let's gonna get a Mina Kimes d

1158
00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:32,640
Speaker 1: M for that comment calling the Seahawks fans a mob.

1159
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:35,000
Speaker 1: I think she's the only Seahawks fan I haven't blocked

1160
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:39,920
Speaker 1: on Twitter. They're like you, Wes. They're a cantankerous you know,

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00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:46,520
Speaker 1: well read Uh, I'm not a Manchurian candidate. They are.

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00:59:47,720 --> 00:59:49,760
Speaker 1: They're nothing like me. They don't think they're on thinking

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00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:54,160
Speaker 1: up there. All right, I'm still on that corner and

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Speaker 1: happy to be there. West Mondays delivering once again. Oh yeah,

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01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:02,840
Speaker 1: all right, West Monday was a hit, as it always is.

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Speaker 1: We'll be back on Wednesday, of course with the fifth

1167
01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:09,760
Speaker 1: Ish Annual Fantasy Extravaganza with special guest s galore. So

1168
01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:13,400
Speaker 1: you cannot miss that, especially if you're drafting this weekend

1169
01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:16,200
Speaker 1: or next week as you should, so make sure you

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01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:20,000
Speaker 1: tune in for that. And uh, that's it. Anything else, everybody,

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01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:23,680
Speaker 1: that's it. This feels like a good jumping off point.

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Speaker 1: West Good luck to you this week. If everything. Thank you,

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Speaker 1: We love you, buddy, thank you, love you too. I

1174
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:33,600
Speaker 1: got it this time. They hadn't signed up for the Mailman.

1175
01:00:33,720 --> 01:00:43,960
Speaker 1: The old Boss Rick Hollywood Kill the Extravaganza. I don't

1176
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:45,800
Speaker 1: think I didn't notice that you didn't sign me up

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01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:49,240
Speaker 1: there with the names I miss you, Mailman, the old

1178
01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:52,800
Speaker 1: Boston Rickey, Hollywood. I'm gonna be thinking about that in

1179
01:00:52,880 --> 01:01:01,160
Speaker 1: the next couple of hours. Dan Green, that's that's that's that's,

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01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:05,840
Speaker 1: that's that's wait, I said myself, is that what I did?

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01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:08,880
Speaker 1: Thank you? Just did? You said, you know, appropriately, just

1182
01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:11,680
Speaker 1: skipped right over me, which is signed. I thought I

1183
01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:13,760
Speaker 1: signed up for the old Sitizer. I think it would

1184
01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:15,360
Speaker 1: be a muscle memory at this point. Then it's okay.