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Speaker 1: Buck Brief. On this episode, Gabrielle Kucia is with us.
Speaker 1: She's formerly of the Trump White House one American News
Speaker 1: and now she does some great stuff out there in
Speaker 1: the commentary world and hangs with my friend DC Draino.
Speaker 1: So she's in the fight. Gabrielle, good to see you, great.
Speaker 2: To be here. Thank you. Buck. Hello everybody.
Speaker 1: So immigration, Biden talking about basically doing a mass backdoor amnesty.
Speaker 1: Is this a panic maneuver? Was this the plan all along?
Speaker 1: What do you think?
Speaker 2: Okay, so, first thoughts is it's the plan all along,
Speaker 2: because they if they if Biden is actually running for president,
Speaker 2: which I still am under the impression that he actually
Speaker 2: won't make it on the ballot. I really don't think that.
Speaker 2: I'm not a conspiracy theorist. All roads lead to old
Speaker 2: in decrepit. But if he needs to pull out a landslide,
Speaker 2: if he ends up leaving that election or that campaign
Speaker 2: and puts and someone else comes in place from the
Speaker 2: Democratic Party, they need to at least make sure that
Speaker 2: they can garner I don't know, banking on one point
Speaker 2: one million votes, of which would be the one point
Speaker 2: one million of those that are illegal aliens who are
Speaker 2: married to US citizens would automatically gain the right to vote,
Speaker 2: So of course you can just bank on those people
Speaker 2: voting Democrats. So this is definitely a you know, I
Speaker 2: mean writings on the wall I sist all the time.
Speaker 2: Of course, this is during election season, so yes, it's
Speaker 2: about elections. It truly is, and it doesn't It's just
Speaker 2: it's bizarre to me certainly at this point, you know,
Speaker 2: if you won't even go into a security aspect of it.
Speaker 2: I used to be a security contractor as well, and
Speaker 2: I'm just looking at the fact that Chinese nationals coming
Speaker 2: into the United States up eight percent since twenty twenty one,
Speaker 2: and that was based on numbers from twenty twenty four
Speaker 2: fiscal year, which clearly is not finished yet. So the
Speaker 2: future is not looking bright. And this is just exactly
Speaker 2: what those that want a globalist world want. Not to
Speaker 2: sound doom and gloom.
Speaker 1: But so I assume you you had a security clearance
Speaker 1: then right, possibly, yeah, sure, and you probably never left
Speaker 1: classified information in your garage at your beach house or
Speaker 1: pas Worth with it, and if you had, you would
Speaker 1: have gotten in trouble unlike the Bidens.
Speaker 2: Uh one hundred percent. One hundred percent. But it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: I just kind of wish that my last name was
Speaker 2: something more like, you know, like Biden's. I'm just gonna
Speaker 2: throw this out here for you for a hot second,
Speaker 2: if anybody knows, Biden's actually is as a derivative of
Speaker 2: a word for a genius class of plants, and it
Speaker 2: means devil's pitchfork, devil's bootleg. So really, you know it does. Yeah,
Speaker 2: a lot of people don't know that. I mean, I
Speaker 2: just I do. I just spew out my thoughts on
Speaker 2: Twitter and then sometimes people see it. Sometimes they don't know.
Speaker 2: One really saw this one, but it's true. So like
Speaker 2: Biden's Evil, it's in the name. Just when you talk about, oh,
Speaker 2: the tactics of immigration or law and whatever it may be,
Speaker 2: these things are happening not by pure surprise anymore. And
Speaker 2: that's the issue I think for a lot of conservatives.
Speaker 2: But then people that aren't interested in politics, they have
Speaker 2: this desensitation, you know, to what's actually going on in
Speaker 2: the world, and they feel so small, like they have
Speaker 2: no utter say truly, and how can you ever have
Speaker 2: any say? Because I would also make the argument in
Speaker 2: today's world, these policies are being run am up because
Speaker 2: we started even back I dare say during Bush that
Speaker 2: states were allowing illegal immigrants, those enemies of the state,
Speaker 2: even you know, Chinese nationals, to obtain driver's licenses. At
Speaker 2: one point you could show maybe tax id, maybe you
Speaker 2: show some sort of document. And now these days, as
Speaker 2: of twenty twenty three, and I'll you know, before I
Speaker 2: even get there, let me back up for a hot second,
Speaker 2: those that influx of states making those decisions actually happened
Speaker 2: under Obama's watch about ten states. We're hitting almost a
Speaker 2: quarter now, to believe, it's nineteen or twenty at this
Speaker 2: point in the United States. But now we have other states.
Speaker 2: I believe it was a Colorado, Yes it was Colorado
Speaker 2: about a week ago. They've totally just threw caution to
Speaker 2: the winds on these illegal immigrants being able to having
Speaker 2: to prove that they have a tax id or showing
Speaker 2: any sort of citizenship to any other country. They can
Speaker 2: actually just provide expired documentation and it's unverified. So this
Speaker 2: is just the place that we're in and I shook
Speaker 2: you on a whole like little little trip, but I
Speaker 2: can go forever. You know.
Speaker 1: I think that the problem with illegal immigration is that
Speaker 1: it's actually become so wide. All of the problems are
Speaker 1: so widespread, and it's such a massive issue now that
Speaker 1: to begin to talk about or to begin the process
Speaker 1: of fixing it or at least stopping it from getting worse,
Speaker 1: almost sounds like you're detached from the reality. Right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's so bad that to talk about it, it's like
Speaker 1: all the houses are on fire and you're like, well,
Speaker 1: where do I get a hose? Will all the houses
Speaker 1: are already on fire.
Speaker 2: Well, the problem is too is like, well, who's really
Speaker 2: like holding the hose and who's managing the water that
Speaker 2: comes out? You know, about two weeks ago, Optica Foundation
Speaker 2: is an organization that bolsters science research and they're involved
Speaker 2: with a lot of universities here in the US, and
Speaker 2: they actually just got caught secretly being funded by Huawei,
Speaker 2: which we know as a conduit to the CCP. And
Speaker 2: this was happening in Washington, DC about two weeks ago,
Speaker 2: and no one really talked about it. I haven't heard
Speaker 2: any members of Congress on the left or the right
Speaker 2: speak out about this, and so much so that Optica
Speaker 2: Foundation and is acting very guilty because once they were
Speaker 2: caught about two weeks ago, they gave back all the
Speaker 2: money to Huawei from twenty twenty four and the last
Speaker 2: two years. So alarm bells to me definitely go off
Speaker 2: in that sense. And that just kind of just as
Speaker 2: a full you know, everything's kind of feeding into itself,
Speaker 2: is it? Where is the best interest? You talk about
Speaker 2: the bidens, I don't think they have our best interest.
Speaker 2: They have their own interests. You look at someone like
Speaker 2: Steve Bannon, what's happening to him right now? I mean,
Speaker 2: we shouldn't even be surprised if that's happening, unfortunately, because
Speaker 2: think about all the people that are in prison for
Speaker 2: J six, Jake Lang to be one of them. I
Speaker 2: just spoke to him last week in a matter of
Speaker 2: a few days of doing a news hit with him
Speaker 2: and him telling the truth and the experience of his
Speaker 2: solitary confinement. All of his modes of communication were confiscated
Speaker 2: and he's now with zero contact confinement.
Speaker 1: So why would he be I mean, we're covering a
Speaker 1: lot of ground here and moving. Yeah, No, it's fine.
Speaker 1: You know, I've been covering the J six thing with
Speaker 1: Julie Kelly for a while, you know, her putting her
Speaker 1: reporting forward and having her call on radio. And one
Speaker 1: thing that has been just astonishing and pretty terrifying me
Speaker 1: the whole time is this solitary confinement order for people
Speaker 1: who are non violent, even in the crimes they allegedly committed. Right,
Speaker 1: It's not like, oh, I didn't do the murders, but
Speaker 1: you're going to hold me in solitary because you're afraid
Speaker 1: for the public safety because you think I did. They
Speaker 1: didn't do anything violent, but they're still being held in solitary. Like,
Speaker 1: how did that happen to the guy you just mentioned?
Speaker 2: I mean, I can't even answer the how, because I'm
Speaker 2: still trying to honestly piece together, even just in his
Speaker 2: specific case, the how. I still don't understand it. It's
Speaker 2: sometimes it really is a matter of you know, those
Speaker 2: forces and the intelligence agency, those that might be a
Speaker 2: little bit higher in government that are honing in on
Speaker 2: just people who are at the right place at the
Speaker 2: right time for them, which would be the wrong place
Speaker 2: and the right time for us. But at the same time,
Speaker 2: you know, I look in the scope of something, you know,
Speaker 2: parallel that to you know, what's happened with the verdict
Speaker 2: with guilty verdict, right, shame sham verdict for Trump. But
Speaker 2: then I know history in some sense is kind of
Speaker 2: just repeat itself. It's not that I'm saying that we
Speaker 2: shouldn't be fighting and that we don't need to not
Speaker 2: talk about this. We absolutely do and in the Conservative
Speaker 2: Party to do a hell of a lot better, because
Speaker 2: that's why people like Steve Vannon are getting hit now too.
Speaker 2: It's gonna it started at the bottom. Everybody thought it
Speaker 2: was find out trickles up to the top. Now if
Speaker 2: someone like Trump say that he ended up behind bars,
Speaker 2: which you know, good luck to the Biden regime for that. Seriously,
Speaker 2: because I'll be at the front door. I'll break in,
Speaker 2: no problem. But I look at like history, genuinely, and
Speaker 2: you look at somewhere like the Czech Republic. I mean,
Speaker 2: they had a huge revolution, the Velvet Revolution, which was
Speaker 2: all about fighting communism, and it was who's the vuklev Havel?
Speaker 2: Thank you? Yeah, see you, Foxy. You know that's good.
Speaker 2: You can pronounce his name better than me. But he
Speaker 2: served in prison for four years and then became the
Speaker 2: president of what was then Chucklesvakia. So yeah, maybe that's
Speaker 2: just the play the play, right, do you.
Speaker 1: Think do you think Trump? Do you think there's a
Speaker 1: reality here where Trump might run and win from prison?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, I don't think. I've said this a lot lately,
Speaker 2: and I really do believe it. It's not me just
Speaker 2: like trying to make a joke or anything like that.
Speaker 2: But I think at some point down the road, we
Speaker 2: all thought, oh my goodness, things are just so crazy
Speaker 2: they they cannot possibly be true. And I'm like, it
Speaker 2: should be the inverse. Things are so crazy at some
Speaker 2: point that they ought to be true. And it's it's
Speaker 2: not that hard when you really look to find the
Speaker 2: truth in that whether you're following the money, you're following
Speaker 2: relationships with people that have been members on Capitol Hill
Speaker 2: or at the White House or whatever, it may be, like,
Speaker 2: it's all there. The problem, I think now is one
Speaker 2: there's that desensitation, but at the same rate, there's access
Speaker 2: to information, which is, you know, incredibly helpful for people
Speaker 2: that really want to uncover the truth. But it's like
Speaker 2: you're almost it's almost like overload. So it takes time
Speaker 2: to sift it out and piecings together. I think people
Speaker 2: get really excited and just want to start like putting
Speaker 2: out little morsels of information they might have found and
Speaker 2: then dump it on Twitter, and then everybody starts writing
Speaker 2: a narrative and goes a little a wall. But yes,
Speaker 2: to answer your question, I do think that there is
Speaker 2: a reality of that.
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Speaker 1: Do you think they will really lock up Steve Bannon
Speaker 1: over a congressional over contempt of Congress?
Speaker 2: I want to say no. I do find it really odd.
Speaker 2: I don't know if anyone else has kind of talked
Speaker 2: about this. I do find it odd that the sentencing
Speaker 2: has just been ruled out when they expect him to
Speaker 2: report to this correctional facility in Connecticut on July first.
Speaker 2: That timeline is just incredibly short. It's really hard for
Speaker 2: me to wrap my head around that. Genuinely just that
Speaker 2: this would actually happen, But it is alarming.
Speaker 1: So Bannon is supposed to turn himself into a federal
Speaker 1: facility July first.
Speaker 2: July first is what I had just seen today, and
Speaker 2: that doesn't match up to me. I don't even see
Speaker 2: that ever being possible. Would riddle me anytime that a
Speaker 2: court case has ever actually moved so speedily. So I
Speaker 2: don't know what the deal is there. If there is,
Speaker 2: I don't know. I genuinely don't know, but I do
Speaker 2: think it's it's bs and it's kind of I mean,
Speaker 2: I know, probably spare the commentary, but I just it's
Speaker 2: like an alarm. And it's for those in the conservative
Speaker 2: movement too, you know, it's like everyone's like, oh, you know,
Speaker 2: in the political grand scheme of things, if I'm not conservative,
Speaker 2: I'm not going to speak up. Then it's I wasn't
Speaker 2: at J six, so I'm not going to speak up.
Speaker 2: And then one day someone's going to come for you,
Speaker 2: and no one else is going to be there to
Speaker 2: speak up for you. And I think a lot of
Speaker 2: people think that it's just these you know, everyday Americans
Speaker 2: that were at the We're on the ground, ground zero
Speaker 2: of the capital, and it's happening to someone that ought
Speaker 2: to not happened to. I don't I don't understand it.
Speaker 2: It's what because he had any ounce of involvement, because
Speaker 2: he was physically there on the Capitol. I was a
Speaker 2: few miles away. You know, my biggest regret is that
Speaker 2: I wasn't there. It sounds like a Super Bowl. I
Speaker 2: wish I was, like, I don't, I don't understand it.
Speaker 2: But yeah, apparently July first, and they're they're purposely. I mean,
Speaker 2: I'm sure you guys already talked about this and your
Speaker 2: viewers probably know. But he's no longer a part of
Speaker 2: Club Fed. He'll be at this correctional facility just like
Speaker 2: the regular people, apparently in Connecticut and dan Berry. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and I'm sure it's nothing like the the dan Bury
Speaker 2: Outlet mall in Connecticut, so.
Speaker 1: That that part, I think is definitely correct. It's not
Speaker 1: going to be like the dan Uryet. There are a
Speaker 1: few people in uh in prison in currently who are
Speaker 1: just I think in prison because of their You mentioned
Speaker 1: J six prisoners before, but people who are serving sentences
Speaker 1: because of their association with Donald Trump, including his longtime
Speaker 1: accounting for the Trump Organization, Alan Weiselberg, Peter Navarro, who
Speaker 1: was a senior policy and trade advisor for Donald Trumps intempt.
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Speaker 1: tell you this, but I think you're wrong. But I'll
Speaker 1: ask you anyway. You think they're going to replace Biden?
Speaker 1: You're on the you know, my co host Clay says this,
Speaker 1: they're going to replace Biden at this stage, who's going
Speaker 1: to replace him? That's what I replace them?
Speaker 2: I don't, it's the most That's fine. Hey, book, I
Speaker 2: wanted to be crazy talk. I wanted to be so
Speaker 2: crazy that it's not true. How about that?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, I'm happy.
Speaker 2: As a claim with that case. But I appreciate that
Speaker 2: maybe I'm not the only one thinking that. And you know,
Speaker 2: what it's not that. It's not that I'm saying it's
Speaker 2: going to happen, right, It's not that I'm saying it's
Speaker 2: going to happen. But at the end of the day,
Speaker 2: the reason that the reason for the season is elections.
Speaker 2: It's election season, and the reason for the season of
Speaker 2: this country killing itself is because we and I don't
Speaker 2: mean this out of like disrespect at all, but it's
Speaker 2: just that we we don't think that these things are
Speaker 2: going to happen to us. And it doesn't mean that
Speaker 2: I know it to be true, but I'm going to
Speaker 2: stay vigilant at all times and assume that you know
Speaker 2: what's the best case scenario, right, Like the best case
Speaker 2: scenario is that you're prepared for the worst case scenario
Speaker 2: at all times. And I don't think that's a play
Speaker 2: out of the Democratic book that would be left unwritten.
Speaker 2: I think it's in the book for sure. And maybe
Speaker 2: it's not this election. Hopefully it's it's not this election, right.
Speaker 2: I think that Trump has done a great job this
Speaker 2: this first term and has a lot of things that
Speaker 2: he would like to finish through. And obviously he wasn't perfect,
Speaker 2: as no person is, and there was a lot of
Speaker 2: I don't okay, say crap here, I don't know, but
Speaker 2: there was a lot of stuff in the swamp and
Speaker 2: there's still a lot of work left to be done.
Speaker 2: And it doesn't even just end with him, you know,
Speaker 2: Like I'm one of those people where I, like I said,
Speaker 2: I loved Trump and I had a great time working
Speaker 2: for him, and I definitely got to see like a
Speaker 2: direct difference between working a political don't have no your
Speaker 2: viewers have a heart attack, but a political during Obama
Speaker 2: and being able to compare that perfectly alongside a Trump presidency.
Speaker 2: And it was night and day even just by the
Speaker 2: pure characteristics of the people that were in the building.
Speaker 2: And so there's a possibility that these things happen, and
Speaker 2: I'm going to prepare for worst case scenario at all times.
Speaker 2: And even if someone else is brought in, Trump did
Speaker 2: a great job and he still is speaking for a
Speaker 2: lot of people and a little relentless. So you know,
Speaker 2: it's like a basement campaign. What's the difference between a
Speaker 2: basement campaign and someone else just pulling the strings? You know,
Speaker 2: it's I don't see a difference. The only difference I
Speaker 2: really want to see is election integrity. I think that's
Speaker 2: our biggest hit, one thousand percent. I think it's great
Speaker 2: that we're registering people to vote. I think it's great
Speaker 2: that we're telling people to vote. I think it's great
Speaker 2: that conservatives are finally waking up and trying to, you know,
Speaker 2: indulge themselves into the culture war at the end of
Speaker 2: the day. I mean, you know, when I first started
Speaker 2: in journalism, I was in Broward County. I'm I'm in Tampa,
Speaker 2: Florida right now. When I was in Broward County, I
Speaker 2: was Desantus and Andrew Gillham. I remember that was like
Speaker 2: a really high stake, you know, gubernatorial race, and at
Speaker 2: that time, there was no reporters there. There were hardly
Speaker 2: any people on the left or the right, and there
Speaker 2: was the voter machines sitting in a room full of
Speaker 2: glass windows. And when I arrived, they started not because
Speaker 2: they knew I was a journalist, but when people started arriving,
Speaker 2: you know, Laura Luma was there too. Like when people
Speaker 2: started arriving, then the poll workers were putting up pieces
Speaker 2: of paper, newspapers, whatever they could to cover up all
Speaker 2: these glass windows so that we, as the free people
Speaker 2: who are voting, can't even see how these things are
Speaker 2: actually being processed. At the same time, voter registration or
Speaker 2: voter machines were caught on fire. I know that sounds ridiculous,
Speaker 2: but they actually were, and there were bout it's left.
Speaker 2: I'm sure you remember this, Buck, but they were a
Speaker 2: bunch of ballot boxes left empty. But I don't know
Speaker 2: what they were going to do with them, left at
Speaker 2: the nearby airport in a in a rental vehicle, unmanned.
Speaker 2: So I mean, at the end of the day, my
Speaker 2: point being, yes, it's great that we talk about these things,
Speaker 2: get people into the culture war. At the end of
Speaker 2: the day, even with you know, getting people to vote,
Speaker 2: getting them in a register. I don't believe anything until
Speaker 2: I freaking see it, and I haven't seen anyone count ballots.
Speaker 2: All right, that's our problem.
Speaker 1: Whereas people go to follow a story time with Gabrielle Kucia,
Speaker 1: which a lot of topics very fast. Hey, you know,
Speaker 1: people refuse to believe that I'm from New York because
Speaker 1: they say that I don't sound like it and I
Speaker 1: don't have a New York cadence. Gabrielle, thank you.
Speaker 2: I'm going to tell you right now this is probably
Speaker 2: the calmist I've ever been in an interview because you know,
Speaker 2: like you make you make me feel really calm. You know,
Speaker 2: I felt like I was like smoking a cigar in
Speaker 2: the middle of the Sopranos episode.
Speaker 1: You know That's that's my idea. I want people to
Speaker 1: common common, relax on the comm as.
Speaker 2: I could ever be no pulse. But you guys, it's
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Speaker 2: and then I post my videos on DC Draino's YouTube
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Speaker 1: Wonderful, wonderful Givedrena, give Draino my my regards. A good man, Gabrielle,
Speaker 1: thanks for hanging out with us.
Speaker 2: Good to see you, Thank you, great to see you.
Speaker 2: Appreciate it.