1 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 1: And welcome in Late Kick on the Air, a rare 2 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: Tuesday show in the middle of the spring, March twenty third, 3 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: the year of Our Lord, twenty twenty one, nonetheless jam packed. 4 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 1: We're talking Spring Whispers Intel. We're getting some feedback now 5 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 1: from different programs, so I'm going to touch on a 6 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 1: few different teams from a few different conferences. I'm also 7 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 1: going to talk about some hires that Ryan Day made 8 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 1: at Ohio State, and there's some stuff happening there. Even 9 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 1: though they playing in the National title game, they won 10 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 1: the Big Ten, there's still some growth that has to happen, 11 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 1: and it's still early on in his tenure. Ryan Day's 12 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 1: tenure at Ohio State, he made some moves. I think 13 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 1: they're very underrated. Maybe Buckeye fans are talking about it, 14 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:46,479 Speaker 1: but not nationally. I think maybe by the end of 15 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 1: this upcoming year we'll be talking about it. I also 16 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 1: got to talk about a hire that Kirby Smart made 17 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 1: at Georgia, which, to be honest with you, I didn't 18 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 1: think we were going to be talking about here on 19 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: Late Cake, but a lot of you have persuaded me 20 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 1: into discussing this because I've been arguing with a couple 21 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 1: of you about this to talk about it actually in 22 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 1: just a second. All that, plus the Mood Tracker series 23 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:08,040 Speaker 1: continues tonight. It's Nebraska time and in all four corners 24 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 1: of the country. If you're of any age, Nebraska football 25 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 1: has mattered on the national stage at some point during 26 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 1: your life. 27 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 2: They don't right now. 28 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:16,680 Speaker 1: And there's a lot of angst and there's a lot 29 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:20,479 Speaker 1: of uneasiness amongst the Nebraska fan base. But also I've 30 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 1: found especially our older audience and listen, if you're eighteen 31 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 1: years old, you should feel the same way. If you're 32 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 1: a fan of college football Nebraska, that N, that block 33 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 1: capitalized N on the side of that white helmet. Oh 34 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 1: my goodness, what does it take to get back to 35 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 1: get back to national relevance. 36 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 2: Let's discuss all that tonight. 37 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:40,039 Speaker 1: Remember the next Late Kickshow Owners Association meeting is. 38 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 2: Going to happen. 39 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 1: The moment, I mean, the moment that I hit two 40 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 1: thousand followers on Instagram didn't take ig seriously for a 41 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 1: long time, that's on me. Now it's on you to 42 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 1: at least make me look serious on there. And the 43 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: more traction we get on there, obviously, the more we're 44 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 1: gonna do on there at Late Kick Josh. Steal five 45 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 1: of your buddys phones if you have to follow us 46 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 1: on there at Late Kick Josh on Instagram, and hey, 47 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 1: if you could subscribe to the YouTube channel as well. Basically, 48 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 1: the reason I beg you for this is because this 49 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 1: is the way we keep all this stuff free. Everyone's 50 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 1: making you pay for everything out there now and here 51 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 1: we are just puttering right along director Emeritus, Colin and 52 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 1: I show up to the studio. Physically, we got a 53 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 1: whole team in Connecticut just puttering right along, free dollars 54 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:23,119 Speaker 1: and free cents. So humbly we ask for those sorts 55 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 1: of things so that we can do that. Let's dive 56 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:27,080 Speaker 1: into the show tonight. Because I didn't lie to you. 57 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 1: It's not a marketing slogan. We are jam packed. Why 58 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:31,920 Speaker 1: did Kirby Smart hire Will mush Champ. Some of you 59 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 1: may not even know this has happened, but yes, indeed, 60 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 1: Will mush Champ is a new senior analyst. I'm looking 61 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: at his exact title right here. He's a senior analyst 62 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 1: now for the University of Georgia. So he's making three 63 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 1: hundred grand a year, which is great. You and I 64 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:46,639 Speaker 1: could live on that right. But not only is he 65 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 1: making three hundred grand a year. The reason mush Champ 66 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 1: was able to take this job is because there is 67 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 1: no mitigation clause in his contract and buy out from 68 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 1: South Carolina, which means essentially someone was dumb enough to 69 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 1: give Will mush Champ a contract wherein if you've fired him, 70 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 1: you were gonna have to pay him millions of dollars 71 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 1: and if he went and got a new job, you 72 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 1: still had to pay him his full buyout. 73 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:10,119 Speaker 2: So Will must Champ, Yeah, he's making. 74 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:12,639 Speaker 1: Three hundred grand on top of the millions per year 75 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 1: that South Carolina has to pay him. So that's a 76 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 1: nice gig if you can get it. If you're in 77 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 1: the typing pool, see if you can get a buyout 78 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:22,359 Speaker 1: where there is no mitigation and you can go type 79 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 1: for someone else and you still get full buyout money 80 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 1: from wherever the law firm was that you used to 81 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 1: work at. But I'm not here to talk about Will 82 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 1: must champs finances. What I'm here to talk about is 83 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: surprisingly I've gotten a lot of feedback about this. It 84 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 1: never occurred to me to talk about this. Analysts get 85 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 1: hired all over the place every year. Nick Saban hires 86 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: an army of them every year. 87 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 2: Ryan Day just hired. 88 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:45,119 Speaker 1: A couple of them. I'm gonna talk about it later 89 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 1: in the show. Herbie Smart saw a former head coach, 90 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 1: old buddy of his two, and he said, I'll hire you. 91 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 1: Come over here, be an analyst for three hundred grand. 92 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: What's your role going to be? I don't uh, we 93 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 1: won't even specify it. Just come over here. 94 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 2: And I can't. I can't even begin to tell you how. 95 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 1: Many people flooded the DMS saying this is stupid Kirby 96 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: Smarts insane. 97 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 2: Why would he hire Will must Champ? Why not? Why 98 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 2: in the world would you not mind you He's not 99 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 2: hiring him as co head coach or anything like that. 100 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 2: He didn't say, come here, will take my job. I'm 101 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 2: going to coach Ill for a year down in Bainbridge. 102 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 2: It's not what he did. He brought him in. And 103 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 2: I want to specify this, Colin. Let me know if 104 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 2: I talk too fast. As a senior analyst and no head, 105 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:29,160 Speaker 2: no coach, senior analyst, what does that mean? Could mean 106 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 2: a lot of things. 107 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:31,039 Speaker 1: But I want you to follow this logic. If you 108 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 1: think this was a dumb move, let's follow this logic. 109 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 1: So Will must Champ was one of the premier defensive 110 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: minds in college football for years and years and years, 111 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 1: coached among some of the best, coached some of the 112 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 1: best defenses in America. And he was so good at 113 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 1: that that the University of Florida saw fit to give 114 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 1: him a head coaching job. He ultimately failed there. He 115 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 1: comes back through the defensive coordinator level reasserts himself as 116 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,840 Speaker 1: again one of the best defensive minds in college football, 117 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:57,600 Speaker 1: so much so that South Carolina said, we're going to 118 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:00,080 Speaker 1: give you another crack at being a head coach. He 119 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:03,559 Speaker 1: fails again as a head coach. Kirby Smart hires him 120 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 1: to be a senior analyst. Some of you tell me 121 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 1: this is a terrible idea. I ask, why is it 122 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 1: a terrible idea? You tell me because he's a failure. 123 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 1: I ask in what role has he failed? You say, 124 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 1: head coach? I ask what role has he been hired 125 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:19,479 Speaker 1: for at Georgia? You say, I don't know, an analyst 126 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 1: or something like that. And then I sit there in 127 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:23,720 Speaker 1: silence and I wait for you to put two and 128 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:26,279 Speaker 1: two together. And some of you who have been arguing 129 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 1: with me on this. 130 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 2: You just look at me and go see what I mean. 131 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 2: I don't see what you mean at all. 132 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 1: I want to stack as many former head coaches on 133 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 1: my roster as humanly possible. I don't know how many 134 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:38,720 Speaker 1: times you have to watch Nick Saban do this every 135 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 1: offseason to realize this is not only a proper practice, 136 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 1: it's a very wise practice. 137 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:46,040 Speaker 2: Here's the reality. 138 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:49,160 Speaker 1: There are dozens of men in this sport who are 139 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:52,040 Speaker 1: head coaches who are ill equipped for it. So I'll 140 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:52,599 Speaker 1: say it like this. 141 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 2: There are dozens of guys who are ill equipped to 142 00:05:56,320 --> 00:06:00,840 Speaker 2: lead programs who are extremely valuable pieces of a will 143 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 2: must champ, as it turns out, was sort of ill 144 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 2: equipped to lead South. 145 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 1: Carolina long term and get him where they wanted to. 146 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 1: But he's a perfect and valuable addition if you put. 147 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 2: Him in the right spot. And so here's what I had. 148 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:15,479 Speaker 1: Most of the time when I've had these correspondence with you, 149 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 1: you've come back at me and we've hashed it out 150 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 1: and either agree to disagree or you've seen it my way. 151 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 2: This is not one I'm willing to budge on. 152 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:24,160 Speaker 1: I just know I'm right. Sometimes you just know you're right. 153 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: I'm not budget on this one, it's good. It's a 154 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 1: very good thing when you can bring former head coaches in, 155 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 1: former high level defensive coordinators in and give them an 156 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 1: analyst position and have them there for three hundred thousand 157 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 1: dollars a year, which is essentially an office supply budget 158 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 1: for the University of Georgia. But you may look around 159 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 1: and you may say, you know, some of you get it. 160 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 1: But if you don't get this, I've had some of 161 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 1: you ask me, what are you bringing in Will Muschamp 162 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:50,159 Speaker 1: to do? 163 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 2: What value? What values will Muschamp going to have for Georgia. 164 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:56,479 Speaker 1: Just off the top of my head, I look around 165 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:59,160 Speaker 1: and I think about having another set of eyes on 166 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:01,840 Speaker 1: my defensive back or my linebackers. I think about the 167 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 1: added benefit of having him involved in recruiting evaluations. 168 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:08,720 Speaker 2: Quality control is a whole other aspect that when you've 169 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 2: been a head coach, you've had to oversee every facet 170 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 2: of So you get another set of eyes on your 171 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 2: quality control, You get more feedback on how to deal 172 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 2: with donors, how to deal with your own administration, how 173 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 2: to deal with league administrators and the NCAA, which a 174 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 2: head coach has to do. And an offensive coordinator has 175 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 2: never had to worry about. 176 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 1: You get the added benefit of having a former head 177 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 1: coach there for self scouting purposes. Not only is he 178 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 1: another set of eyeballs that can help install new drills, 179 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 1: new looks, new approaches and practice, he can help you 180 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: coach your coaches. He's had to do it before. It's 181 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 1: not just players that have to be coached. Coaches have 182 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 1: to be coached. 183 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 2: You got another set of eyes that is former head 184 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 2: coach in the house. He can help you do that. 185 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 1: Staff evaluations in general, I would argue scheme input Will 186 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 1: Muschamp can be very valuable on and you get to 187 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 1: use him during the season for advanced scouting purposes. 188 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 2: So you ask me, what benefit can a failed head 189 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 2: coach have for Kirby Smart. I don't know. 190 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: I just name like seventeen just off the top of 191 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 1: my head. I've never ran a program a day in 192 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: my life. I say that to say this. If it's 193 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 1: easy enough for me to figure out, it should be 194 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 1: easy enough for anyone to figure out. 195 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 2: So that, in a nutshell, is why I think it's 196 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:19,679 Speaker 2: a proper hire and a wise hire to bring. 197 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 1: Will mush Champ in for Kirby Smart or anyone else 198 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: who could have gotten him. Now there have been some 199 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: other additions at another outpost in the Big Ten at 200 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 1: Ohio State. I think Ryan Day has made some very 201 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 1: underrated moves in the offseason. You Ohio State fans who 202 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 1: are hardcore, you follow what you run, you probably know 203 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 1: about this, but outsiders maybe not. I think Ryan Day 204 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 1: has upgraded his staff, and in time, I think the 205 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 1: rest of the country will come to realize this. 206 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 2: The best always do this. 207 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 1: The best find a way, even if they're at or 208 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:50,439 Speaker 1: near the top of the sport, they're always looking to 209 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 1: upgrade everything, and that includes coaching staff. I go back 210 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 1: to twenty eighteen Alabama kind of like Ohio State just did. 211 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 1: Alabama makes it all the way to the National Title 212 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:03,079 Speaker 1: Game and they got run out of the building by Clemson. 213 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 1: And so you could have two trains of thought. You 214 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 1: could either say, oh man, we're really close. Let's not 215 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 1: change anything. We're really close. Or you could be like 216 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 1: Nick Saban and say this team wasn't good enough. Our 217 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 1: dynamics here were not good enough. We got to get better, 218 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 1: and they got better. And the coaching roster that Alabama 219 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 1: trotted out there in twenty twenty ran circles around the 220 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:23,080 Speaker 1: one they had just two years prior, and that's why, 221 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 1: well one of the reasons why they won a national championship. 222 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 1: But it's always a balancing act, and Ryan Day's finding 223 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 1: this out. All the other coaches find this out. Here's 224 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 1: what you want. Everyone complains when their coaching staff is 225 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 1: too old. LSU was a big complaint from them last year. 226 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 1: Coaching staff was a little bit too old. They were 227 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 1: detached from the reality of the younger generation and they 228 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 1: didn't relate to kids. And so then you want to 229 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:49,560 Speaker 1: get younger. Everyone wants a youth movement. But then you 230 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 1: know what else everyone wants. Everyone wants wisdom and experience 231 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 1: in the coach's room. Well, how do you balance this? 232 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 2: How do you get the youth and the exuberance while 233 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 2: also having the experien and the wisdom. 234 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 1: Well, the answer is a mixture of those elements. It's 235 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:06,680 Speaker 1: a balancing act. How do you find that proper balance? 236 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 2: Though? 237 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 1: That's one of the many challenges of being a head coach. 238 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 1: So what do we know about Ohio State last year? 239 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 1: Buck guys circa twenty twenty. They were a really good team, 240 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 1: really good. I thought they belonged in the National Championship game. 241 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 1: We could have the whole argument about the playoff structure. Luckily, 242 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 1: twenty twenty is a one off, so any argument made 243 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 1: last year hopefully is irrelevant to the future. But here's 244 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 1: what we do not know. We don't know what their internal. 245 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 2: QCRS quality control reports said about their own dynamics, and 246 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:39,079 Speaker 2: more specifically, we can't know exactly how Ryan Day graded 247 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 2: his own staff. It's one thing to grade your team, 248 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 2: but one of the things. 249 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 1: That I think would fascinate you guys, if we could 250 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 1: ever be a fly on the wall, is when self 251 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 1: scouting happens, self evaluation happens. 252 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 2: And your coaches are getting graded. 253 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 1: Now that that's a whole new science, and that's a 254 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 1: whole new realm of the sport that's behind like five curtains. 255 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 1: No one would ever give you a peek behind those curtains. 256 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 1: But Ryan Day, at the end of this past year, 257 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 1: he saw Greg Madison retire co defensive coordinator, had been 258 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 1: at it for nearly half a century, and so he 259 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:12,959 Speaker 1: walks out. So Ryan Day has got some moves to make, 260 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 1: and he made four of them. Really, I want to 261 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 1: talk about two of them right now, and then the 262 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 1: other two in just a second. Matt Barnes is the 263 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 1: new secondary coach. There Also Parker Fleming is the new 264 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:27,959 Speaker 1: special teams coordinator. Now those names you may or may 265 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 1: not recognize. I don't know how much you pay attention 266 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 1: to the sport. But they went internal for both of 267 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 1: the hires, is my point. And this kind of circles 268 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 1: back around to what having elite culture allows you to do. 269 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:41,439 Speaker 1: If you got really, really good culture. It's that thing 270 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 1: that everyone preaches, but really very few elite cultures exist 271 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:47,439 Speaker 1: out there, not just in college football but in business, 272 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 1: in life in general. But if you get one, and 273 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 1: I believe they have one at Ohio State, you don't 274 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 1: have to go outside the four figurative walls. If you 275 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 1: were a football complex, very often because you got qualified 276 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 1: candidates who already speak your life language and who already 277 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 1: understand everything about the organization, that you can just promote 278 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:07,440 Speaker 1: from within. The best organizations are able to do that. 279 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:11,199 Speaker 1: In fact, you're working in that organization, and your motivation 280 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:13,679 Speaker 1: instead of in a normal organization being I got to 281 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 1: get out of here so I can advance in an 282 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 1: elite culture. In an elite organization, your motivation is I 283 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 1: got to get better because I'm about to advance on 284 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 1: this ladder right here. 285 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 2: Well, Matt Barnes and Parker Fleming just did that. What 286 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 2: does that sound like? 287 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 1: By the way, the reason I think it's so personal 288 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 1: and so relatable for Ryan Day's cause that's exactly what 289 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 1: happened to him not too long ago. 290 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 2: You get the breaking news on your phone, Urban Myers, 291 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 2: Urban Myers out, Urban Myers retiring. What in the world 292 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 2: Ohio State's open. Wow, what a national coaching search this 293 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 2: is about. Wait a second. 294 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 1: They just hired Ryan Day, Ryan who some of you 295 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 1: didn't even know who Ryan Day was. 296 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 2: And they went internal. Now, remember there was no problem 297 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 2: at Ohio State. 298 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 1: There was no It's not like the Tennessee job, where 299 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 1: there's this huge looming NCAA black cloud. The Ohio State 300 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 1: job was one of the most elite jobs in the country. 301 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 1: They could have gotten virtually anyone they wanted to come 302 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 1: to Columbus. 303 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 2: They didn't even leave town. 304 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 1: They looked right inside the athletic department, They looked right 305 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 1: inside the football complex. They said, Ryan, could we talk 306 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 1: to you for a second. You're the head coach, Now 307 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 1: you're the captain, now take it. And he's taken it, 308 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 1: and they're still elite, if not recruiting at even higher 309 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 1: level than they were when urban Meyer was there. He 310 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 1: understands how this works because it happened to him. Now 311 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 1: he promoted from within, So that's part one. Both those 312 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 1: guys are young though both of those guys probably don't 313 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 1: have the decades and decades of seasoning and experience that 314 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 1: you would want. 315 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 2: So what else does Ryan Day do? Well? 316 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 1: He goes out kind of like Nick Saban and Kirby Smart. 317 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:42,440 Speaker 1: We were just talking about hiring those analysts in the 318 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 1: off season. What do you know about Paul Rhoades. You 319 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:47,680 Speaker 1: probably remember him once upon a time as a former 320 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 1: head coach. Have you heard his name lately? I don't know, 321 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:53,440 Speaker 1: maybe maybe not. Well, he just got brought in at 322 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:56,439 Speaker 1: Ohio State as a defensive analyst. What about Todd Fitch, 323 00:13:57,360 --> 00:13:59,719 Speaker 1: He just got brought in former coordinator. You've heard his 324 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 1: name probably for a while, just got brought in as 325 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 1: an offensive analyst. 326 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 2: You won't see these guys on the field. If you've 327 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:07,440 Speaker 2: got a press credential, you may see him in the 328 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 2: press box on game days. But there you have the 329 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 2: balance being struck. So they got. 330 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 1: Younger the guys that are gonna go out recruiting, the 331 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 1: guys that are on the field, they got a little 332 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 1: bit younger in the aggregate. However, in terms of the 333 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 1: overall makeup, when they're sitting in a staff meeting Ryan Day, 334 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 1: you can tell he's not really he doesn't really mince 335 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 1: words very much. You can tell already listening to him 336 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 1: throughout spring. They don't think they hit a home run. 337 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 1: They think they hit a Grand Slam with this mixture. 338 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 1: I think they did too. I think probably what's going 339 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 1: to happen if they get quarterback figured out is they're 340 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 1: gonna win the Big Ten again. They're gonna get in 341 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 1: the playoff again, and you're probably gonna look at him 342 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 1: and you're. 343 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 2: Gonna say they look a little bit better. 344 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 1: How in the world does a team lose justin fields 345 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 1: and get better or at least match the production. Well, 346 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 1: what you'll have is you'll have a better overall coaching mixture, 347 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 1: and you never know what that does over the course 348 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 1: of a season. 349 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 2: Because there's this other word in this sport. 350 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 1: Development we talk about it a lot here, where we 351 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 1: don't just assume player are who they are when they 352 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 1: come out of high school, We don't just assume the 353 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 1: star ranking is going to forever define them, and three 354 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 1: stars are never capable of playing to a five star level, 355 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 1: and a five stars never capable of going bust. 356 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 2: Development matters. The best staffs develop. 357 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 1: James Franklin's got a big chore right now trying to 358 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 1: develop the linebacker and safety positions in Happy Valley. Well, 359 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 1: that's similarly what Ohio State has to do. They're trying 360 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 1: to retool their entire secondary right now. 361 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 2: They were terrible. 362 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 1: There were one hundred and twenty second nationally in FBS 363 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 1: pass defense last year. 364 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 2: That's horrid. It's horrific. They got to retool that. You 365 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 2: got to develop the guys you have on campus. It's 366 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 2: not a transfer portal fix. 367 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 1: You got to have coaches who can go recruit, and 368 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 1: you got to have coaches who can develop the guys 369 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 1: you have on campus. 370 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 2: Think Ryan Day's got a good mixture. Right now. Let's 371 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 2: talk about some spring football. 372 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 1: We've talked about previews, but we haven't really for good reason, 373 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 1: we haven't spoken about what's happening so far. Well, now 374 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 1: spring practices underway and a lot of places, So let's 375 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 1: just give you a few whisperers, little bits of intel 376 00:15:57,400 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 1: that we're getting. Obviously we'll get more as more camp 377 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 1: good underway. I want to start at LSU, because man, 378 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 1: we got to keep a close eye on this quarterback 379 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 1: situation LSU. You know, the overarching theme this year for 380 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 1: them is obviously going to be which was the outlier 381 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen or twenty twenty. Well, then we get down 382 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 1: to ground level and a lot of what's going to 383 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 1: determine that answer is what happens at quarterback. And you 384 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 1: saw late in the year, probably when logic told you 385 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 1: they should have been their most decimated, they rose to 386 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 1: play their best football. And that was when Max Johnson 387 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 1: took over at quarterback. Miles Brennan was out early to 388 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 1: mid portion of the year. He never came back, and 389 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 1: so Max Johnson came in. For instance, he led that 390 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 1: big upset win in Gainesville against Florida. 391 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 2: And so now Miles Brennan is. 392 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 1: Healthy, and I think a lot of folks maybe who 393 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 1: check out during the spring and they come back during 394 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 1: what I call preview magazine season, they're going to assume 395 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 1: it's Miles Brennan's job. There are a lot of people 396 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 1: around LSU who assumed that. I don't assume that. I 397 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 1: know what depth charts look like. I know how easy 398 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 1: it becomes to kind of attach yourself to whatever the 399 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 1: group think of the day is and you start writing 400 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 1: the depth chart. But depth charts are meaningless when reps 401 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:07,920 Speaker 1: start to happen, when live bullets start to fly, that's 402 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:10,680 Speaker 1: when this stuff gets settled. And I want you to remember, 403 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 1: you got new crews coming in there, you got new offense, 404 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 1: new defense. So it's not holdover time. It's not Miles 405 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 1: Brennan just doing more of what he was doing before 406 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:21,439 Speaker 1: he was injured. You got some new elements there that 407 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:25,440 Speaker 1: you have to learn, and so how efficiently will that happen. 408 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 2: It's not the only place that's occurring. I'm about to 409 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 2: talk about Texas too, but this whole quarterback situation at LSU. 410 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:35,119 Speaker 1: To say that's settled, to even indicate or suggest that 411 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:38,399 Speaker 1: settle is ludicrous. You may end up guessing right. I 412 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:40,679 Speaker 1: could say it's Miles Brynnan's job and he goes on 413 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 1: to win it, and I say I was right. No, 414 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:45,199 Speaker 1: I guessed right. No one's right here. There is no 415 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 1: skillful answer on this. There is no eighty twenty either, 416 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 1: way sixty forty sixty five to thirty five. Maybe, but 417 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:53,160 Speaker 1: I think it's wide open. I think Max Johnson could 418 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: easily win this job. How about Clemson that defensive line? 419 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:59,160 Speaker 1: Last year, you talk to people close to the Tiger 420 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 1: program and they told you two things. 421 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 2: The first was learn how to pronounce Clemson. I said, 422 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 2: I'm a lost cause. The second thing they said was 423 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:08,680 Speaker 2: all right, fool, Well, at least you need to know this. 424 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 1: Our defensive line is gonna be good next year. This 425 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:14,360 Speaker 1: year they're young, you can see them flash. But next 426 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 1: year they're gonna be really good. Well, next year is here, 427 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 1: and Clemson's defensive line probably gonna be really good. You 428 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:24,679 Speaker 1: remember names like Brian Brazee last year, he was is 429 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:26,879 Speaker 1: he even a legal adult yet? Like he just turned 430 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 1: eighteen five minutes ago. He's already wrecking interior offensive lines. 431 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 1: But Tyler Davis, Trey Williams, these are names you continue 432 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:36,439 Speaker 1: to hear a lot about in camp kJ Hill when 433 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:38,639 Speaker 1: we talk about the defensive end and pass rush and 434 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:41,120 Speaker 1: coming off the edge and stuff like that. kJ Hill's 435 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 1: out for the spring, and that's given a lot of guys. 436 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:44,439 Speaker 2: Extra opportunity out there. 437 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 1: Miles Murphy's another one of those names that was young 438 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 1: a year ago, and now there is no mid tier. 439 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:52,920 Speaker 2: You're either younger, you're a veteran now in college football. 440 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:55,119 Speaker 2: So he's there. Xavier Thomas, remember that name. These are 441 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 2: just all former five star names everyone remembers some signing 442 00:18:57,600 --> 00:18:58,160 Speaker 2: days past. 443 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:02,880 Speaker 1: That is a potential game changing crew. And that's independent 444 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 1: of anything happening with dj Uyang Laalay. That's independent of 445 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:08,880 Speaker 1: anything happening with the wide receiver position. 446 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 2: Let me pause. I think if I could. 447 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 1: Pronounce the quarterback without fail, I should get a pass 448 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 1: on putting the Z in Clemson's That's my opinion. I 449 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 1: know you guys differ, but Ouyang la Lay versus Clemson, like, 450 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 1: which one would you rather be able to master? Because 451 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 1: I watched some national broadcast types, Colin, remember this. We 452 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 1: did a segment on this. 453 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:29,879 Speaker 2: I watched some national broadcast types thoroughly make fools in 454 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 2: themselves last year trying to pronounce dj Uyang Laalay's name. 455 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:35,440 Speaker 2: So I got that one. Figured out. The z's not 456 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:36,919 Speaker 2: going anywhere, though, how about it? 457 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:40,919 Speaker 1: Texas Steve Sarkusan walks in the door, and this is 458 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 1: a little while A couple of weeks after what bowl 459 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 1: game did they play in? 460 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 2: Was it the Alamo Bowl? 461 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 1: I don't know whoever, they they played Colorado and Casey 462 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:52,119 Speaker 1: Thompson looked great, and so we were really excited and 463 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:55,440 Speaker 1: are still really excited about the potential with Casey Thompson 464 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:59,359 Speaker 1: in this Longhorn offense. And here is the deal that's 465 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:01,680 Speaker 1: not settled either. And here's the deal. 466 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 2: Part B. 467 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:05,440 Speaker 1: There are some people around the Texas program. Maybe it's 468 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:07,159 Speaker 1: just because they're looking for something to talk about in 469 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 1: the spring, but I've had a couple of folks close 470 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 1: to Texas who have told me they're not predicting a winner, 471 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:16,119 Speaker 1: but they said, Hudson Card. If you were asking in 472 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 1: terms of pure skill set, which of these quarterbacks is 473 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:23,120 Speaker 1: more tailor made for Sarks offense, it would be Hudson Card. 474 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:25,919 Speaker 2: It wouldn't be Casey Thompson. Now, overall, who ends up 475 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:30,120 Speaker 2: being the better quarterback could still be Casey Thompson. If 476 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:32,679 Speaker 2: I were betting man, if I were out there degenerately 477 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 2: placing wagers on spring position battles at Texas, I would 478 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 2: lay my money on Casey Thompson. 479 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 1: However, think about what I just said there. It's the 480 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 1: same principle that's in play at LSU. You can fill 481 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 1: out all the depth charts, you can write all the 482 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:48,439 Speaker 1: preseason articles, you can read all the magazines you want to. 483 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:52,400 Speaker 1: Writing something over and over again doesn't mean anything. Even 484 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:55,639 Speaker 1: this coaching staff doesn't know. Therefore, by default, we can't know. 485 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 1: If you were to ask Steve Sarkis, even if you 486 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:00,119 Speaker 1: had truth serum in him and there were no cameras, 487 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 1: no microphones on, and I were to ask him, who's 488 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:03,440 Speaker 1: going to be your starting quarterback this fall? 489 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:04,120 Speaker 2: He go, uh huh. 490 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:06,359 Speaker 1: I mean, he don have a guess, but he doesn't know. 491 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 1: He's the one who's gonna make the decision. If Hudson 492 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:12,199 Speaker 1: Card looks at this situation and he ends up being 493 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:15,160 Speaker 1: tailor made as some people suggest he is, to fit 494 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:17,879 Speaker 1: skill set wise into this offense, you never know what 495 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 1: could happen. There have been several instances just in the 496 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 1: last few years where preview season kind of led to 497 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:27,879 Speaker 1: a bunch of groupthink around one guy taking control. Remember 498 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 1: Blake Barnett, who is going to start for Bama and 499 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:32,919 Speaker 1: he started a grand total of like one quarter and 500 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 1: then Jalen Hurts took over. No one was talking about 501 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 1: that until it happened. So not many people may be 502 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:41,119 Speaker 1: talking about this right now, but it could happen. The 503 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 1: old it's now an every show thing. JP angels in 504 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 1: the outfield, it could happen. Flap those arms, it could happen. 505 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 1: Keep a close eye on that. They're just now opening 506 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 1: spring ball in Austin, so keep a close eye on that. 507 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:54,119 Speaker 1: And the last one, I'm gonna stick with the quarterback 508 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 1: position here. The last one. You know, I've spoken about 509 00:21:57,359 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 1: this a couple of times now. Mackenzie Milton continues in Tallahassee. 510 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 1: As I said in our spring preview for the ACC, 511 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 1: one of the biggest focal points for me is going 512 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:10,400 Speaker 1: to be on FSU's spring camp year two from Mike 513 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:13,680 Speaker 1: Norvel and Mackenzie Milton, the transfer quarterback who had the 514 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 1: devastating leg injury at UCF two years ago. He's in 515 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 1: and they had talked a lot leading up to spring 516 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 1: ball opening in Tallahassee about how Mackenzie Milton had been 517 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:27,360 Speaker 1: fully cleared for everything football related, and I said, there's 518 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 1: a difference between being cleared and being full speed. Now, 519 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 1: if he's full speed and not just cleared, then that 520 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 1: could be a game changer. 521 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 2: Because I think that could be the starting quarterback there. 522 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:38,440 Speaker 1: I think I would lean heavily towards him being the 523 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 1: starting quarterback if he is indeed cleared. So I'm reading 524 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 1: on Knowles twenty four to seven the other day they've 525 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 1: had a couple of spring practices. Now, this is a 526 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 1: quote from Brendan sanom Over on the FSU twenty four 527 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 1: to seven side. I'm gonna paraphrase a little bit, then 528 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:55,119 Speaker 1: I'm gonna read a direct quote. He said, Mackenzie Milton, 529 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 1: you can see the comfort setting in. Took a couple 530 00:22:57,560 --> 00:22:59,639 Speaker 1: of practices to get a little bit more acclimated to 531 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 1: the very and the system and whatnot, but he's starting 532 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:03,719 Speaker 1: to grasp the system. 533 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:05,440 Speaker 2: Then I want you to listen to this quote. 534 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 1: Very nice movement as a runner, throws well on the run. 535 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 1: Those two sentences probably matter about as much to me 536 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 1: as anything that I've read anywhere from any spring practice. 537 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 2: Report so far. It is a huge tidbit. I know 538 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:21,399 Speaker 2: there's still a long way to go, but if his 539 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 2: first few repetitions in sort of quasi live action at 540 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 2: least as live as you can get in spring, has 541 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 2: people coming away saying, you know, he moves pretty good, 542 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 2: he throws the ball pretty good on the run. Well, 543 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 2: that means they were serious when they said he's fully 544 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 2: cleared for spring ball. And if he looks impressive by 545 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 2: the standards of other quarterbacks you're measuring him to, well, 546 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 2: it means there's probably not limitation there. And if there's 547 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 2: not limitation for Mackenzie Milton, that's going to be the 548 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 2: starting quarterback at Florida State. 549 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:52,119 Speaker 1: Big if big ifs I know right now it is. 550 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 1: It's March twenty third. We got a long way to go, 551 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 1: but that's how I would handicap that race if indeed 552 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 1: he continues on that trajectory. And those are the themes 553 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,920 Speaker 1: that we continue to hear come out of FSU. We're 554 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 1: going to wrap the show up with a somber tone, 555 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:10,399 Speaker 1: a hopeful tone, but a somber tone. The Mood Tracker 556 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 1: series continues. I'm striking a serious posture because this is 557 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 1: serious business. We've got to talk about Nebraska. I was 558 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:18,679 Speaker 1: over on Husker twenty four to seven. I had to 559 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:20,959 Speaker 1: go do some of my market research. I came on 560 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 1: the board and I said, I need help, cause let 561 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 1: me just put it. 562 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 2: All out there. 563 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 1: A lot of Nebraska fans have been in our inbox 564 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 1: and they've been asking us to do a mood Tracker 565 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:32,160 Speaker 1: segment for Nebraska, and I kind of kicked it down 566 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,119 Speaker 1: the road a little bit weak, to be honest with you. 567 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 1: We had some bigger brands to do, but I wanted 568 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:38,160 Speaker 1: to get to Nebraska. I want to get to Colorado, 569 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 1: Michigan State. I got a lot of min I want 570 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:41,680 Speaker 1: to get to. So it's Nebraska time now. But here's 571 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:43,919 Speaker 1: what led me over to the board over on Husker's 572 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 1: twenty four to seven. Anytime someone asks me to do 573 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:50,160 Speaker 1: a mood Tracker I always respond, Okay, what's your mood 574 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 1: towards the program? So I've been asking the Nebraska fans 575 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 1: on Twitter and the email inbox on Instagram. When they 576 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:57,639 Speaker 1: ask me, I say, all right, it's on the to 577 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 1: do list, what's your mood? Moods all over the place, 578 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,120 Speaker 1: for every different direction a hand can point on a clock. 579 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:07,439 Speaker 1: I got a different feedback mood for Nebraska. So I 580 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 1: go over to the board and I say one word 581 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 1: or one phrase, give me your mood. It was all 582 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 1: over the place. I know this is going to shock you. 583 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 1: There was very little positive feedback. There was not a 584 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 1: whole lot of you know, eternal optimism, nothing but sunshine, 585 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 1: no clouds, nothing gonna dull me nothing. 586 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 2: It wasn't like that. 587 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:27,440 Speaker 1: Here's what it was, though. It was a lot of 588 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:33,159 Speaker 1: kind of a mixture of cautious optimism at best, I 589 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,640 Speaker 1: think was the most cheery tone. But more so it 590 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 1: was there were a lot of people who are fed up. 591 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:38,960 Speaker 1: There are a lot of people who are very frustrated. 592 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:40,679 Speaker 1: There are a lot of people who are searching. And 593 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 1: here's kind of what I circle back around to. When 594 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 1: you're on top, you never want to hear anyone tell you, well, 595 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:48,920 Speaker 1: you know, college football is cyclical. You don't want to 596 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 1: hear that because you're on top, so you want it 597 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 1: to last forever. There was a period of time where 598 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 1: Nebraska was on top of this sport. Fama's there right now. 599 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 1: No one in Tusclus, Alabama is interested in you telling them. 600 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:00,439 Speaker 2: This is a cyclical sport. 601 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:04,160 Speaker 1: But it is at least when you have the capability 602 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 1: of winning at the highest level, it's going to be cyclical. However, 603 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 1: think about the shoe beet on the other foot at 604 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:12,439 Speaker 1: Nebraska right now, they. 605 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:13,200 Speaker 2: Are very much down. 606 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 1: They are nowhere near and they can't even see the 607 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 1: top of that mountain, much less think about being there. Well, 608 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,480 Speaker 1: they want more than anything in the world for that 609 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:24,400 Speaker 1: book to be true. They're hoping in praying college football 610 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 1: is cyclical. They keep on looking around every corner, want 611 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 1: to know when the worm's going to turn, and it's 612 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 1: not turning right now. 613 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 2: Now. 614 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 1: Many of you believe that the fate of Nebraska really 615 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:36,639 Speaker 1: started snowballing. 616 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 2: Downhill when Bill Callahan got brought in. 617 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 1: You know, you asked Bill Callahan, Bill, what do you 618 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:43,680 Speaker 1: think about Nebraska's tradition and identity and he said, never 619 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 1: heard of her. 620 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 2: We're gonna do it my way. 621 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 1: A lot of people believe that's when it kind of 622 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:50,119 Speaker 1: took a turn. I'm not here to rehash history. What 623 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 1: I am here to say is it's never recovered. The 624 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:57,680 Speaker 1: Mike Riley experiment. Now Scott Frost. Scott Frost is an 625 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 1: interesting concept though. When Scott Frost got hired, it checked 626 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:06,399 Speaker 1: all the boxes. When Scott Frost got hired, that made 627 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,159 Speaker 1: the most sense on paper. That's what you'd call a 628 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 1: grand slam higher times ten for Nebraska. No one looked 629 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 1: at that with any skepticism. Everyone looked at it and say, 630 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:17,919 Speaker 1: look at what that guy's doing at Central Florida, and 631 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,120 Speaker 1: he's one of ours, so he wants to be here, 632 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 1: or else he wouldn't be here. And so you look around. 633 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:25,960 Speaker 1: I'll grant you kind of like with Jeff Collins at 634 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:29,200 Speaker 1: Georgia Tech, willing to give him a grace period, willing 635 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,920 Speaker 1: to allow him to get his culture ingrained and his 636 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:36,639 Speaker 1: systems and whatnot. Well, now it's year three, and so 637 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 1: you look around and you say, where. 638 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:41,120 Speaker 2: Are the results? Is this the year? 639 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 1: Is this the year we're supposed to expect results. I'm 640 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:46,639 Speaker 1: keep setting my watch. Where's the cycle? Where's the uppart 641 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:48,360 Speaker 1: of the cycle for us? Because we've just been kind 642 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:51,400 Speaker 1: of at the bottom. We want to cycle up now. Well, 643 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 1: here's the dangerous part. So there was another word that 644 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 1: kept popping up on the Husker twenty four to seven board. 645 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 1: It's the a word that it has nothing to do 646 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 1: with a donkey. It's the most dangerous. 647 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 2: Word in sports. We whisper it around here. We don't 648 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 2: even like to say it out loud. It's apathy. 649 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,720 Speaker 1: It's never been a problem at Nebraska. Nebraska, even when 650 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:14,359 Speaker 1: the record indicates otherwise. They packed that stadium. It's a 651 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:18,360 Speaker 1: phenomenal atmosphere. They are world renowned for the environment they create, 652 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:19,960 Speaker 1: for the culture they create. 653 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 2: There. 654 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:24,119 Speaker 1: No one speaks ill of the Nebraska culture, of the 655 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 1: Nebraska experience. And you look at that place, and granted 656 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,119 Speaker 1: I'm looking from afar, I'm in Nashville, I grew up 657 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 1: in Georgia. I'm looking at Nebraska. I've never been to 658 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 1: a game there. Want to change that, but I've never 659 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 1: been to a game there. But I look there and 660 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 1: I say, apathy would never set in there. Apathy meaning basically, 661 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 1: you just don't carry it away. You're just fine walking 662 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 1: away apathy. Here's what apathy's like. Apathy is you wake 663 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 1: up at nine am on a Saturday in the fall 664 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:51,239 Speaker 1: and you go get some yard work done, and then 665 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 1: you go take a nap, and you wake up at 666 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 1: like two forty five and you say, do we play today? 667 00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 2: Oh? 668 00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 1: Man, we had the noon game. Oh it's already at halftime. 669 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 1: You didn't know the game was on. 670 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 2: That's apathy. 671 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 1: Apathy is it's just not setting your fall calendar in 672 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 1: life to the day to day goings on in the 673 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 1: football department or basketball or whatever the case may be. 674 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 2: Apathy is not said in there yet. 675 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 1: But I had a lot of you tell me I'm 676 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 1: close because the way you're looking at it, and I 677 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 1: don't blame you, is if this sport is cyclical, if 678 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:22,720 Speaker 1: there's still a shot for us to matter on the 679 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 1: national stage, Scott Frost will be the guy. And if 680 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 1: Scott Frost doesn't get it done, maybe this sport isn't cyclical. 681 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 1: Maybe it's like my Hometown that song by Bruce Springsteen 682 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 1: when it says foreman says these jobs are going boys, 683 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 1: and they ain't coming back. Maybe the sport has just 684 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 1: gone and it's not coming back. Maybe the dynamics changed. 685 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 2: Now. I would look at that, because I know that's 686 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 2: a lot of doom and gloom. 687 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 1: I would look at that and say, if I Westaate 688 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 1: can do it, trust me, Nebraska can do it. But 689 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 1: I understand the sentiment of you looking and saying, if 690 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 1: Scott Frost can't do it, who in the world are 691 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 1: we going to get up here? Because Matt Campbell's don't 692 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 1: grow on trees. That's a one in a generation, one 693 00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,719 Speaker 1: in a million type deal. If Scott Frost can't do it, 694 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 1: maybe it's time to throw my hands up. 695 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 2: Maybe it's time to go. I don't know, just worry 696 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 2: about the chiefs or something like that. 697 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 1: Just pull pull for the Broncos, whoever in the world 698 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 1: you guys are pulling for up there. I hope it 699 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 1: never comes to that, but I do understand the sentiment. 700 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 1: And so that's why those two programs I just linked 701 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 1: them up. I just said, Georgia Tech in Nebraska. Watch 702 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:19,960 Speaker 1: those Those are a couple of third year head coaches 703 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 1: right now that have not so far delivered a return 704 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 1: on the immense emotional and financial investments that the university 705 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 1: and the culture there around has invested into them. But 706 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 1: hopefully it does come this year. And the thing about 707 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 1: it is, you don't need ten or eleven wins. You 708 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 1: just want to see a competitive product on the field 709 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 1: to where at least now you start looking around the 710 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 1: corner and nothing's come around the corner yet, but there's 711 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 1: this bright light to where you know, it's like a 712 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 1: train way way down the tracks. 713 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 2: It's about to come around the bend, and you can 714 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:49,960 Speaker 2: see the light. 715 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 1: If we could just see a light after this year 716 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 1: with Nebraska, we'll take that. Right now, it's just darkness 717 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 1: and darkness and darkness as far as the eye can see. 718 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 2: And so I get it. Understand why the mood is 719 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 2: that way. 720 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,480 Speaker 1: We at least here are pulling for you guys, though 721 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:08,719 Speaker 1: that's our show. Remember to go follow us on Instagram 722 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 1: at Late Kick Josh. When we get to two k 723 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:12,719 Speaker 1: we are putting the ball in motion to have our 724 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 1: next Late Kickshow Owners Association meeting. And remember to like 725 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:18,320 Speaker 1: the video before you leave here and subscribe to the 726 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 1: twenty four to seven Sports YouTube channel. 727 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 2: And again, we do all that to keep the show 728 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 2: free of charge. For Director Emeritus. 729 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 1: Colin, for our entire crew Jesse, along with the rest 730 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 1: of you in Connecticut, thank you so much for making 731 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 1: the show possible. I'm Josh Peyton. Have yourselves a great 732 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 1: rest of the week, and God bless