1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:04,960 Speaker 1: Some of the content of Patriots Unfiltered may not be 2 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 1: suitable for all audiences. Listener discretion is advised. 3 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 2: The World's a Pigeon podcast. Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. 4 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 3: What else could you ask for? Like your number one 5 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:24,319 Speaker 3: pick throwing to your number two pick, and you know, 6 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 3: mini camp. 7 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 2: Ends and hey, yeah great. 8 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 3: It would have told me that night that C. J. 9 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 3: Stroud was going to have that rookie year. I would 10 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 3: have asked you to pee in a couple. 11 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 4: I'm gonna throw some cold water on. 12 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:37,880 Speaker 2: No booty, no foody, nobody for your booty. 13 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 4: Let's let's calm down, call. 14 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:41,919 Speaker 2: Them the good booty. A second ago, though, Evan, you're 15 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:42,279 Speaker 2: going back. 16 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 3: I think he was talking about booty in general. I 17 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 3: don't want to like foot words. 18 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 2: You know, yeah little booty booty. 19 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:49,959 Speaker 3: I just like, if you weren't being creepy. I don't 20 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 3: want to decide that to gross really mix it in 21 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:53,200 Speaker 3: with the fruit. 22 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 2: Salad is pretty good, No. 23 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 4: Like in the here like the moisture. I hate water. 24 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 2: How about candalo? 25 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 4: I hate it. Don't like any fruit. 26 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 2: I would have checked my outrage had I realized it's 27 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 2: just the first. 28 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 5: Orange does not look good on everybody doesn't right, the 29 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 5: burins are not true. 30 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 6: Orange four inch door hinge, orange stor hinge. 31 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 2: It's is it not rhyming in your head? 32 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 4: For we believe you, Matt. 33 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 2: All right, we believe you. Size doesn't matter. 34 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 1: This is Patriot's Unfiltered. 35 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 6: Presented by Toyota's official website. 36 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 2: For deals, buy a Toyota dot com. All right, welcome 37 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 2: to Patriots Unfiltered. It is Tuesday, fourth of July week, 38 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 2: our one and only show this week, So be prepared. 39 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 2: We're gonna have to get it all in in this 40 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 2: two hours. And sounds like you guys had a pretty 41 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 2: good time while I was away last week. It was 42 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 2: hard for it. It was hard without you. Where were 43 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 2: you you were? Were you vacationing or vacationing. I was 44 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 2: probably working harder last week than I do when I'm here. 45 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 2: I was painting outside. This is setting up nicely for 46 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 2: some home improvement. Well, we're gonna talk a little football. 47 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:09,080 Speaker 2: Don't worry, because we did have a little breaking news 48 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 2: that broke during Catch twenty two that Evan and Alex 49 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 2: broke about Jelani Tavai. So we'll get into that, and 50 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 2: I think the bigger discussion about a lot riding on 51 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 2: this defense in order to keep our heads above water 52 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 2: this season. So we'll talk about that. But it's Deuce, 53 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 2: it's Tamaraw, it's Evan, it's Paul. We're here for the 54 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 2: next two hours talking Patriots football in our temporary studio. 55 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 2: And I got to look at the new studio. I'm 56 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 2: very excited. 57 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 5: Don't spoil it. 58 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 2: I haven't seen it. I'm not saying what it's going 59 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 2: to look like, but I'm very excited. Is this the 60 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 2: last show in here? Hopefully? Yeah? Could be. If all 61 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 2: goes well, we'll be in our new digs on Tuesday. Wow. Yeah, 62 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 2: all right? Exciting. 63 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 3: So I have to miss the first show in the 64 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:57,359 Speaker 3: new studio that I'm on vacation. Next on vacation, me too. 65 00:02:57,520 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 2: Same and you're at all three of you, so we 66 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 2: might to push that back, you and Alex, You and Alex, 67 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 2: and maybe we'll bring in somebody else. Maybe no socks. 68 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 2: He no socks that Smith Smith. Oh wow, he doesn't 69 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 2: wear socks. You got that one before. 70 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:12,919 Speaker 4: No, the dogs are always out for that. 71 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 2: So here's no socks. When he wears shoes, he doesn't. 72 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 5: Wear socks like sneakers. 73 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 2: No leather shoes, no socks, sneakers, socks, but when he 74 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 2: dresses up, he doesn't wear socks. And he got that 75 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:33,119 Speaker 2: from his channel five days. Mike Lynch was the same way, 76 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 2: so I think he was just copying Mike Channel five days. 77 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 2: That goes way back. So that's the origin of no socks. 78 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 2: That's why we call him that. 79 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 4: I call him Mattie Appetizers. 80 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 2: Mattie Appetizer. He is the appetizer king Maize. 81 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, on the road, you don't out to dinner with 82 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 4: with matt great time, but also you're about to order 83 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 4: every appetizer on the. 84 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 5: I don't hate it, honestly, I think the appet sometimes 85 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 5: they're better than the actual entre. 86 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 2: Absolutely. Yeah, yeah, just give me a little of each. 87 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 2: Where are my apps? Yeah? Love apps? All right, big, 88 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 2: So let's get right into it. I guess you know 89 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:16,720 Speaker 2: Jilanni Devis. You know, the Celtics announced of being sold. 90 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 2: They signed Tatum, but we're going to announce Johnie Devis. 91 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 2: Hold my beer, Hold my beer. 92 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 7: Yeah, I haven't seen the terms yet. You guys said 93 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 7: three year deal. 94 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:29,600 Speaker 4: Twenty one million of max value for over three years. 95 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 4: This is Reese, yeah, and Schefter fifteen million is the 96 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 4: base value. Yeah, incentive package. 97 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 2: So the Patriots haven't officially announced it, but when Reese 98 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:42,160 Speaker 2: puts it out there, you know it's it's accurate. 99 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 8: Yeah. 100 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:44,159 Speaker 7: Well, I mean I think you know, he's a guy 101 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 7: that's he's really blossom the last couple of years. I mean, 102 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:48,840 Speaker 7: you know, just looking back at his stats last year, 103 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 7: I mean, you know, career year for him, you know, 104 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 7: one hundred and ten total tackles. I mean, he was 105 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 7: He's been a real productive player for them, And I mean, 106 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 7: I think it's just that it shows Mayo wants to 107 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 7: kind of keep what they have some you know, linebackers 108 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 7: are the second level who can kind of play on 109 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:04,280 Speaker 7: the edge a little bit play inside. I mean, I 110 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 7: think the conversation probably is people have been talking about 111 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:10,359 Speaker 7: wanting to get more mobile at linebacker, and this is 112 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:13,159 Speaker 7: probably an indication that they kind of like staying physical 113 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 7: and versatile as opposed to you know, going more towards 114 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 7: the end of the six one six, two two ten, 115 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:20,719 Speaker 7: you know, kind of a lighter linebacker style. So I 116 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 7: think it's just an indication that that Mayo is is 117 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 7: going to kind of keep what they did with Bentley 118 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 7: and Tavai and you know, kind of rotating those edge 119 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 7: guys a little bit and having him play in a 120 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 7: couple of different spots. But I mean, I think personality wise, 121 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 7: I think he's really come on here and you know, 122 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:37,480 Speaker 7: started to live up to his potential. And I don't know, 123 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 7: I don't know about the money and how it all 124 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 7: stacks up and all that, But last point is just 125 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 7: that they've got a lot of free agents on defensive 126 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 7: that next year, so I think they're solidifying a couple 127 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 7: of things there. I mean, Bentley will be back to 128 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 7: but you know, Judon Ouch, those are some big question 129 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 7: marks too, So I think it's it's just part of 130 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 7: kind of preparing for that. 131 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 3: Yep, anything part I wouldn't disagree with anything Mike just said. 132 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 3: I think he's been a solid player for them now 133 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 3: for the last couple of seasons, and he's I think 134 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 3: off off the field. I mean, I know that, you know, 135 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:08,720 Speaker 3: fans don't necessarily care about that, but I think he's 136 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:11,159 Speaker 3: one of the guys you want to reward. You want 137 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 3: to keep guys like that in your program, and I 138 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 3: think that's important, probably was important for Mayo and Wolf 139 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 3: to have a guy like that who does everything right. 140 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 3: On and off the field, keep him in the fold, 141 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 3: keep him happy. And you know, I think we've seen 142 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:28,600 Speaker 3: that trend of you know, we're working on over a 143 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:31,839 Speaker 3: dozen guys now, you know, sort of all together between 144 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 3: guys that were resigned that we were actual free agents 145 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:37,599 Speaker 3: and now guys that have been extended. Is now you know, 146 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 3: bar More Stevenson to buy you know, this Tugger you know, 147 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 3: you know, well he was actually a free agent, David 148 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 3: and David Andrews another extension to Henry for another re signing. Yeah, 149 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:54,600 Speaker 3: so like you're dealing with all of these guys, are 150 00:06:56,200 --> 00:07:01,159 Speaker 3: you know, let's just say fifteen guys. That's what Mayow 151 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 3: and Wolf wanted to do. They wanted to get guys 152 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 3: that they knew and they felt comfortable with, and they 153 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 3: wanted to retain them. 154 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 2: So are these guys good enough? Are we Are we 155 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 2: signing the familiar or signing guys who we really think 156 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 2: can help us win football games? I think, I mean, 157 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 2: I know, if I'm a Patriots coach and I'm laughing 158 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 2: at what I just said, but you know, I'm comparing 159 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 2: it to the rest of the league. You know, it's 160 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 2: a good question. 161 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 5: I feel like we talked about some of this, some 162 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 5: of it last Thursday with Remandre being re signed, It's like, 163 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 5: did you really need to do that? Because I think 164 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 5: we talked about how a lot of these running backs 165 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 5: have just been rotating teams, Like, you really don't need 166 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 5: to re sign Remandre. You can go find another one, 167 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 5: you can draft another one. 168 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:50,239 Speaker 2: Does a young staff, you know, gravitate more towards signing 169 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 2: the familiar guys that we know that know us. Now 170 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 2: Alex van Pelt doesn't know these guys, but Gerard certainly does, 171 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 2: and Elliott knows them, and you know, is that you know, 172 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 2: is that not just convenient, but it you know, it's 173 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 2: the familiar, It's it's something that we know who they are. 174 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 2: We don't want to be starting with new players and 175 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 2: having you know, let's let's just go with what we know. 176 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 7: I think there's a little bit of that, and I 177 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 7: think that was the point that I kind of made 178 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 7: on Remandre of you know, next year, you could just, 179 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 7: as Tamara said, go into the musical chairs of the 180 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 7: running backs and probably you know, pay someone similar and 181 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 7: and maybe they're just trying to get ahead of that. 182 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 7: On Tavai, I would just say he can play on 183 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 7: my defense. Anytime there's a handful of guys him, Pepper's Barmore, 184 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 7: you know, Gonzales that that. I just I think they're 185 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 7: they're ballish their players, and you know, I like him. 186 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 7: I think he's physical, So I don't know about that. 187 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 7: I can see a little. 188 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 2: Let me go back to Remondre because I think a 189 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 2: lot of people had that same question. That's a running back. 190 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 2: You know, now if it was Christian McCaffrey, you'd be no, 191 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 2: no question right, Well he's a running back. Now, Remandre 192 00:08:56,360 --> 00:09:00,439 Speaker 2: Stevenson isn't Christian McCaffrey. But this contractors of those kinds argument, 193 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 2: but this contract is in Christian McCaffrey's either no but ken, 194 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 2: but Ken. Remondre be a mini Christian McCaffrey in that 195 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:13,200 Speaker 2: he is a dual threat. He's a threat in the 196 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 2: passing game and in the running. Can he be that player? 197 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:18,320 Speaker 7: I think a little bit, But I just I mean, 198 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 7: I think McCaffrey is another level. He is and I'm 199 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 7: not Hes got the explosiveness that I think that's what 200 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 7: makes him so much more valuable. I think we have seen, 201 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 7: you know, examples of kind of Remandre with surprising explosiveness 202 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 7: and surprising kind. 203 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 2: Of getaway ability. And that's kind of the pot not 204 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 2: when you have a guy that could be a dual threat, 205 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:41,199 Speaker 2: does it make re signing him more sense than if 206 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 2: he was just a running back? I think so. 207 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 7: But the hard part for out of this question is 208 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 7: that do you really want Remandre to be a three 209 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 7: down running back? Do you want to run him into 210 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 7: the ground. Do you want him to be the primary 211 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 7: guy or do you think he's best served with a 212 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 7: group of three guys where he can be an early 213 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 7: down guy with some rotation and then there's a third 214 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:56,839 Speaker 7: down back. 215 00:09:57,080 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 2: Because he's a potential three down player, doesn't mean he 216 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 2: has to play three downs all of them. Yeah, right, 217 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 2: But the fact is he can be on the field 218 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:09,679 Speaker 2: in any situation and I think that increases his value 219 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 2: as a running back a little bit. Yeah. 220 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I just don't think Stevenson impacts the passing game much. 221 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 3: He catches a lot of passes, he doesn't make any place. 222 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 3: And we had when you were on vacation last week. 223 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 3: I actually ran the numbers and there are five or 224 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 3: six now the number is escaping me. Running backs over 225 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 3: the last two years that caught more passes than Stevenson. 226 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 3: There's only five or six. It's McCaffrey, Camara, Rashard White, 227 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:42,440 Speaker 3: Joe Mixon, Austin Eckler. 228 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 2: I think those are the pretty good company. 229 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:47,959 Speaker 3: Okay, they all blow him away, they all blow They're 230 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 3: all at least a yard more per reception. Yeah, they 231 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 3: have the minimum of five touchdowns in that time. Remindro 232 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:57,959 Speaker 3: Stevenson has won. There's no comparison between the impact and 233 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 3: the passing game between those guys and Stevenson. Stevenson catches 234 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 3: passes and that's it. Okay, those guys catch passes. 235 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 2: Maybe had those guys quarterback, would he have better production? No, 236 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 2: I don't think so. He's not explosive in space. I'm 237 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 2: with Paul. 238 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 7: I think he's more a guy that can play third 239 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:16,079 Speaker 7: down and ken fill in in that role, and I 240 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 7: think that's what he's done the last couple of years. 241 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 7: But it's not really I don't think he's best suited 242 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 7: being a three down round. I think he's best served 243 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:24,439 Speaker 7: as an early down running back with a rotational piece 244 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 7: with him that can kind of help him throughout the sea. 245 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 3: I like the idea of Antonio Gibson in that role 246 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 3: this year that they didn't have last year much better. 247 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 3: And I also will say, in fairness, we didn't know 248 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 3: the numbers on the contract when we talked about it 249 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 3: last week. We do now. The contract's fine. We all 250 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 3: said it last week. We said, you know, it's not 251 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 3: going to be it was, you know, four years, thirty 252 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:47,199 Speaker 3: six million. We all assumed there's no way it's really 253 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 3: thirty six million seventeen was the guarantee. We've seen the 254 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 3: breakdown now, it's not a it's not a bad contract. 255 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 2: For the team. 256 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:58,199 Speaker 3: It's very affordable numbers. His average annual value puts him 257 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 3: sixth in the league among running backs, but he's I 258 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 3: think it's like six million base salary and eight million 259 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 3: base salary the last two years, two years that he's 260 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 3: probably not going to see, you know, so it's very 261 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 3: little in the way of upfront guaranteed money. So it's 262 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:15,679 Speaker 3: I think it's a fine contract. I think you made 263 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 3: the point off the year, Freddy. They don't really have 264 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 3: any running backs. Like it's kind of like Hunter Henry. 265 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 3: You can love Hunter Henry as a player, well, you 266 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 3: could hate him, didn't matter. They didn't have any tight ends. 267 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 3: You had to retain him, and I kind of think 268 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 3: they had to retain Stevenson too. 269 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 4: So I just quick because everybody knows how I feel 270 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 4: about Rimandre in the contract. Didn't love it, Yeah, I know, 271 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 4: but there's a difference between, Like, you know, he can 272 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 4: still catch passes on first and second down, right, and 273 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 4: I feel like that is an element that he will bring, 274 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 4: is that he is at least a somewhat of a 275 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 4: threat that if they want to spread it out or 276 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 4: if they want to, you know, run him off play 277 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 4: action and he's just a little check down over the 278 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 4: middle of the deep options aren't open on first down, 279 00:12:58,440 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 4: second down, he's going to be there. 280 00:12:59,640 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 3: Now. 281 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 4: Is he a dynamic third down running back? No, but 282 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 4: there's still value that he brings into the passing game 283 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 4: on first and second. 284 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 2: Anything the Patriots can do to help them be a 285 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 2: little bit less predictable on offense is a good thing. 286 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 7: Right, It's not blunt and white where that was just hey, 287 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 7: blunts out here, you know. So I think in Tevin's point, 288 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 7: it does it does offer some you know, it's some 289 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 7: concern with the defense that all right, this this could 290 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:24,559 Speaker 7: easily be a screen pass that they could easily spread us. 291 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:26,679 Speaker 4: Out and let him run around the talk about matchups 292 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 4: all the time of like if you come out in 293 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 4: a heavier package and they match you with bass, which 294 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 4: doesn't happen very much anymore, but if they do match 295 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 4: you with base, if then you go five wide into 296 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 4: empty and now Remondre has got a linebacker on him somewhere, 297 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 4: and now that's a matchup that you could potentially work. 298 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 4: Like those types of things do you present themselves? 299 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 7: Yeah, I just say one last point, Fred is I mean, 300 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 7: Fred Paul mentioned this, you know, the three year deals. 301 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 2: A lot of three year deals. 302 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 7: It just seems like Elliott Wolf, you know, and and 303 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:54,559 Speaker 7: when you talk about the Remondre deal too, I almost 304 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 7: wonder if it's more about sending a message, you know, 305 00:13:57,720 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 7: not so much given the contract, but sending the message 306 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:03,080 Speaker 7: of with somebody like Ramandre, who again you're reinforcing this 307 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 7: is a guy that's been around and you know, we're 308 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 7: gonna keep him around. 309 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 2: And so I. 310 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 7: Think they've done that a lot with with a few 311 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 7: different guys and now with you know, Tavai as well. 312 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 7: So I just I think that's the biggest impression for me, 313 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 7: that message of three I. 314 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:16,840 Speaker 2: Know Elliott Wolf has said, you know, at the end 315 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 2: of the day. These are going to be my decisions. 316 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 2: I'm the final say he said that, But how much 317 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 2: do you think these are drawed wishes, like, Hey, Elliott, 318 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 2: I need my circle the Wagon guys. On defense, I 319 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 2: need I need these guys signed figure it out. 320 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 7: I mean I could see Mayo going about for Tavai. 321 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 7: I mean, I could you know, certainly the linebacker position. 322 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 7: But I mean it's it's hard to say on offense 323 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 7: because you know, Gerard Is admitted it's kind of Alex 324 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 7: van Pelt's show, so it's hard to. 325 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 2: Well it is. But I'm talking more locker room. I'm 326 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 2: not talking about the field. I'm talking about the guys 327 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 2: I want in my locker room, the self policing guys. 328 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 2: You know, I remember, you know, Ernie Adams said it, 329 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 2: and maybe even Dante said it. How did you know 330 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 2: when you had a good team, when the locker room 331 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 2: started policing itself? You know? 332 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 5: Yeah? And I think I do think you have to 333 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 5: worry about that too. When you're losing guys like Devin 334 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 5: mccorty two years ago, Slater last year, it's like, who 335 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 5: is taking that role of being the leader of this 336 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 5: locker room? 337 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 2: Ye, and leaders you know, there needs to be more 338 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 2: than one. 339 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 3: I do, and that's why I agree with Mike about Tavai. 340 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 3: I think he's one of those kinds of guys and 341 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 3: you might not think of him as, you know, a 342 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 3: guy that's standing on a chair, you know, getting everybody 343 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 3: whooped into a frenzy. But I do think he's very 344 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 3: professional and very respected. David Andrews similar kind of thing 345 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 3: on offense. 346 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 2: Example, he's a hard had guy. 347 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 4: He's he's going to come to work, he's gonna work hard, 348 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 4: he's gonna do his job, you know. 349 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 2: And I was at the combine. 350 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 4: When we were at the combine, you're just talking to 351 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 4: people around the league as they say, you know, media people. 352 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 2: You know, who's scribes, who do you like? 353 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 4: You know on the Patriots that doesn't get enough love. 354 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 4: There's so many Jelani Devai answers, like of the people 355 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 4: that are like me that are are you know watching 356 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 4: film till wee hours of the night for no reason? 357 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 2: You know, so many. 358 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 4: People watching the Patriot Conor McDermot uh and the Connor 359 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 4: mc Yeah. Jelanie Devais has talked about a lot as 360 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 4: being extremely underrated player on the Patriots defense obviously, you know, 361 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 4: do slate it out well, wears a lot of different hats, 362 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 4: can play on or off the line of scrimmage. But 363 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 4: then last year, you know, before it was a lot 364 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 4: of dirty work type stuff that doesn't show up in 365 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 4: the statute. Last year he added splash plays in there too, 366 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 4: and it kind of took that next step as well. 367 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 2: Uh pff. 368 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 4: Not for everybody, but fourth ranked linebacker in the league 369 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 4: last year, off ball linebacker, you know, like true inside linebacker. 370 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 7: I think I think you learned a little bit about 371 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 7: him last year too, with just how hard the season was, 372 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 7: and you know, the face that he put forward, the 373 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 7: effort that he put forward, and you know, he was 374 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 7: still one of those guys kind of bringing the intensity. 375 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 2: So I've the best defensive material lineman in gotcha, We've 376 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 2: got the best off ball line Bill said that. I said, 377 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:04,400 Speaker 2: not not anybody else. And potentially you get the best 378 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:08,159 Speaker 2: cornerbacks in Gonzales right out right elite elite. Yeah, they 379 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 2: won four games. Yeah, what happened. 380 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:14,920 Speaker 4: And I I I get he's not He's not Fred Warner, 381 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 4: all right, and induces right that you know, the stuff 382 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 4: in space and things like that still aren't a real 383 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:23,119 Speaker 4: strength of his but he's improved a lot in space 384 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 4: and in coverage with his reads and his anticipation and 385 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 4: stuff like that to make up for the fact that 386 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 4: he's two hundred and fifty pounds playing you know, eight 387 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 4: nine yards off the line of scrimmage at times, but 388 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 4: really really solid player, like not going to. 389 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:36,679 Speaker 2: Go crazy solid. 390 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:40,400 Speaker 4: But the contract doesn't go crazy. You know, I hate 391 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 4: the reminderary contract. I actually really like this, this deal. 392 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 3: I think to one of those contract a little less 393 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 3: now than you the breakdown, I would like it well 394 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 3: better than me to appreciate stubborness. 395 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 2: But like Paul's this is what Paul said, I don't 396 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:57,880 Speaker 2: care about a contract as as long as it doesn't 397 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:00,360 Speaker 2: stop me from doing something else, and I don't think 398 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 2: this does. No, So like, what would you hate about. 399 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:04,879 Speaker 5: Would you hate it less if he was producing a 400 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 5: thousand yards a season? 401 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 2: No, he doesn't like running backs? And how is he. 402 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:14,399 Speaker 5: Receiving yards or like half and half if it was 403 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 5: like half rushing half receiving. 404 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:21,200 Speaker 4: I just the biggest thing to me, And you're you're 405 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 4: all right about the fact that the contract doesn't prohibit 406 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:26,440 Speaker 4: them from doing anything else in the future. That's fair, 407 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:29,639 Speaker 4: But I also think you need to evaluate is this 408 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:32,119 Speaker 4: player worth the money that you're paying him, just in 409 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 4: a vacuum, like, is this guy gonna be worth it? 410 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:37,119 Speaker 4: And based off of what we know about running backs, 411 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:38,680 Speaker 4: he has two good years left. 412 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:40,639 Speaker 2: That would be my big fear, all right. 413 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 3: I think you saw signs of him already showing the 414 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:46,120 Speaker 3: effects of the physical toll. It took two years ago, 415 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:51,920 Speaker 3: right when more numbers. Freddy Evan had these yards after 416 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 3: contact two years ago, fell by over a yard from 417 00:18:57,040 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 3: twenty two to twenty three. I don't think that's a coincident. 418 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 3: That's not just because the offensive line struggled. 419 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 2: No, But I the total ineptitude of the offense I 420 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 2: think affected everybody. Yeah, you know, offense is bad. 421 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 4: Yeah. 422 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:14,199 Speaker 3: I mean there's no two ways about it. The offense 423 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 3: has been bad for two years. 424 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:18,439 Speaker 2: It just is. I'm going to make a bold prediction 425 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:21,399 Speaker 2: Ramondre Stevenson will have a better year this year than 426 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:21,920 Speaker 2: last year. 427 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 5: That's not that bold. 428 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:27,200 Speaker 2: I'm just That's why I kind of said it facetiously. 429 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:29,239 Speaker 2: I don't think I'm going on in a limb by 430 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:31,920 Speaker 2: saying he's going to have better numbers and a better 431 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 2: year overall strategy course, of course. 432 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 3: But that's a question I would tell you I'm not 433 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 3: sure of that average wise, Yeah, he missed whatever, what 434 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 3: was like the last six games something that. Yeah, Like, 435 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 3: let's just say he plays all seventeen. Obviously his numbers 436 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 3: are going to be you know, his flat numbers, his totals, well. 437 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:52,680 Speaker 2: Well, his averages. 438 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 3: But I think he will be about what he was. 439 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 3: I think I think he kind of ague with Evan. 440 00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 3: I think you've seen about what he marked my worst 441 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 3: I just tape Evan. 442 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:04,359 Speaker 7: I'm kind of curious to dive into this a little 443 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 7: bit with you though, because I mean I like what 444 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 7: you say. I mean, you know, with like Saquon, you know, 445 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 7: some of the running back movement, we talk about that, Like, 446 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:13,159 Speaker 7: do you think that that's all just bs? Like all 447 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 7: those teams are fooling themselves thinking that, like the Eagles 448 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 7: are gonna get a better version of Saquan or all 449 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 7: those guys kind of buying high on somebody who should 450 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 7: be on the back slope. I mean, you know what 451 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 7: I mean, do you extrapolate that to kind of the. 452 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 4: Rest There are definitely some arguments of like that it's 453 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:34,159 Speaker 4: scheme dependent, right, So Saquon Barkley on the Giants was 454 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 4: the guy that everybody was game planning for every single week. 455 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 4: Now on the Eagles, he's gonna have Aj Brown on 456 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 4: one side, Devonte Smith, Dallas Goddard, like there's gonna be 457 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 4: other weapons. 458 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:44,399 Speaker 2: And a running thread at quarterback. 459 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:46,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, and a running thread at quarterback that there's gonna 460 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:48,479 Speaker 4: be other weapons that maybe some of the attentions off 461 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 4: of him and his efficiency goes back up. The biggest 462 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 4: thing that we see with running backs in terms of production, 463 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:59,119 Speaker 4: outside of the lone exception right now currently being Christian McCaffrey, 464 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:04,119 Speaker 4: is that there's really no difference on a volume, you know, 465 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:09,920 Speaker 4: sort of stat metric level between Sakuon Barkley, Josh Jacobs, 466 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 4: you know, Aaron Jones, Romandre Stevenson, YadA, YadA, YadA, that 467 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 4: those guys are not adding anything to the table on 468 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 4: their own, whereas like, yes, they might be more productive 469 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:25,639 Speaker 4: within the confines of an offense, because the Packers offense 470 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 4: is way better than the Patriots offense. But realistically, if 471 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 4: you had put Ramondre Stevenson on last year's Packers offense 472 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 4: and Aaron Jones's role, he probably would have produced similar 473 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 4: numbers to what Aaron Jones produced, which is why this 474 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 4: offseason there's this musical chairs of like, oh, if you're 475 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 4: gonna take our guy, we'll just take your guy, because 476 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 4: they're all the same. 477 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 8: Yeah. 478 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 7: And at the end of the day, maybe the Patriots 479 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:50,120 Speaker 7: just wanted to stick with their own guy that they've 480 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:51,200 Speaker 7: kind of been dealing with. 481 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:54,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's why I'm fine with the contract and 482 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 3: the fact that they had no running backs. To Fred's point, 483 00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 3: I don't know, you know, if you could just snap 484 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:01,159 Speaker 3: your fingers and. 485 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 2: Bringing somebody, you know, just bringing the guy. You know, 486 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:09,679 Speaker 2: it's a good citizen. You know, there's intangibles that you're 487 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 2: not gonna get or you don't know that you're gonna 488 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:14,200 Speaker 2: get with somebody from the outside. So I think it's 489 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 2: a no harm hopefully contract hopefully no harm. Yeah. Yeah, 490 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:22,119 Speaker 2: And and you're getting a guy who I think is 491 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:24,440 Speaker 2: really going to help the team, So let's do it. 492 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:26,639 Speaker 5: And I think with Gibson being here too, that he 493 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 5: won't have so much of a load to carry by himself. 494 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:30,879 Speaker 5: Not saying it didn't help him. 495 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 2: A lot of a lot of times those loads happened 496 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 2: because of injuries. Yeah, that's the thing. That's always the thing. 497 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:40,359 Speaker 2: I remember having discussions and old shows, Well they got 498 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:42,440 Speaker 2: six guys at running back, how are they going to 499 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:44,880 Speaker 2: use them all? And people get hurt and they eventually 500 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:45,479 Speaker 2: use them all. 501 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 7: Well, that's what's concerning to me, just about having, you know, 502 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:51,119 Speaker 7: just two guys that are basically NFL proven players because 503 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:53,200 Speaker 7: they always get hurt and at least in the past, 504 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 7: you could say, you know, I think probably Hope is 505 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 7: running out for Kevin Harris, but you know, Pierre Woods 506 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 7: or Pierre Strong, sorry Peer Woods. Super Bowl forty two 507 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 7: was on the other night, which I ended up watching. 508 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 7: That's a whole lot of story. 509 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:05,200 Speaker 2: I don't know. It was just on I just and like, 510 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 2: I don't know, and like it in all honesty. 511 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 7: After the Brady night, I just feel like it's all 512 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 7: gravy and I'm like, this was great, Like, look at 513 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:12,159 Speaker 7: this guy's going to eighteen and. 514 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:14,159 Speaker 2: One, you know, but. 515 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:18,719 Speaker 7: With some of these guys on the roster, I mean, 516 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 7: you know, Jamichael Hasty like is I mean, I don't 517 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 7: think it's hard to imagine that we're getting to a 518 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 7: point in October where like a big game out of 519 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 7: Jamichael Hasty tonight because Romandra got hurt or Gibson got hurt, 520 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 7: and you're quickly into this unproven depth and it's not 521 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 7: even like you have a couple of rookies to say, well, 522 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:35,120 Speaker 7: you know, and then usually that's fool's gold anyway, I'll 523 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 7: just throw the rookie in. But still, at least you 524 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 7: you know, a couple years ago you had two young 525 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 7: running backs. 526 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 2: Have you gone? JJ Taylor? Yeah? 527 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 7: Right, I know, no, right, And even he got thrown 528 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:45,120 Speaker 7: into things a little bit a couple of years ago. 529 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:49,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, Hasty does have some experience too. And then this 530 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:51,879 Speaker 3: is like the running back is the anti wide receiver 531 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 3: for the Patriots. The receivers they have, you know, a 532 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,119 Speaker 3: couple of young guys that are promising, a couple of 533 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 3: veterans who've been around, a couple of veterans who are 534 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 3: looking to shake off disappointment, and then they have like 535 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:07,920 Speaker 3: four or five like unknown like undrafted rookies, and like 536 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 3: they have everything. There's like twelve of them running back. 537 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 3: There's nobody even like there's no even names on the roster. 538 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 2: It's it's Stevens. 539 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:22,120 Speaker 3: There's like five I think there's five total, yeah, May six, 540 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 3: Fenwick In, Jennings, Terrell, jennings in, Deshaun Fenwick or the two. 541 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:30,479 Speaker 2: Right. 542 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 3: But I picked him nobody right now, but I picked 543 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 3: him as one of my my possible you know, undrafted 544 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,359 Speaker 3: free agents. Because of that, I think there's opportunity. But 545 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 3: just the last usually you have, you know, four or 546 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 3: five guys you don't know anything about. Maybe one of 547 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,359 Speaker 3: them will flash. They have literally two guys that you 548 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 3: don't know anything about. 549 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:49,879 Speaker 2: So I want to get into some NFL things too. 550 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 2: But you know what, if you want to see Toyota's 551 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 2: best offers, including those not seen on TV, go to 552 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 2: buy at toyota dot com. It's Toyota's official website for 553 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,159 Speaker 2: deals from the official vehicle of the New England New 554 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 2: England Patriots, Toyota. Let's go to the fourth of I 555 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 2: don't know. Fireworks, Yeah, we had them in our town 556 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 2: Saturday night. Poor dog had a hard night. 557 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:17,200 Speaker 5: Aren't the fireworks tonight here? 558 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:17,680 Speaker 8: Yeah? 559 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:19,200 Speaker 2: At Foxborough? 560 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,680 Speaker 6: Yeah, and then you can catch fireworks after the Revs 561 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:22,199 Speaker 6: tomorrow night. 562 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:26,200 Speaker 2: And while you're here, it's easy to drink, it's easy 563 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:33,159 Speaker 2: to enjoy. But like the official beer sponsor Patriots, uh so, 564 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:36,920 Speaker 2: I do want to talk a little bit about we 565 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,160 Speaker 2: were two weeks ago, we were talking about the quarterback 566 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 2: contracts and how they've kind of gone crazy. Why haven't 567 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 2: the Cowboys signed Dak Prescott yet, or you know, extend 568 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 2: I'm gonna defer to Evan that he's the DA guy. 569 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 2: I have no idea. Are they waiting for something or 570 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 2: are they just have cold feet, Jerry Joe cold. 571 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:03,639 Speaker 4: Feet Unless there's the only possible thing that I can 572 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,719 Speaker 4: come up with is that they know something about Dak's 573 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 4: personality behind the scenes. 574 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:10,440 Speaker 2: Whatever is he going to be out there next year? 575 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 2: Is he going to be available for a team next year. 576 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:13,199 Speaker 2: It's possible. 577 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,879 Speaker 5: I could see a Kirk Cousins type of thing happening 578 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 5: to Dak next year. 579 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 4: There's nothing on the field, yeah, other than what Paul 580 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 4: will probably say about winning in. 581 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 2: The playoffs, but there's not. I think that's a big thing. 582 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 4: There's nothing on the film though about him as an 583 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,680 Speaker 4: actual quarterback and the plays that he makes. 584 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 2: Cadence though, that's that's kind of it that suggests he's 585 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:37,959 Speaker 2: not worth I expect him to sign. I expect too 586 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 2: to sign, but I do think there's probably some cold 587 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 2: feet for Dallas. 588 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, but also, you can't I feel like you can't 589 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,359 Speaker 5: use the winning in the playoffs thing, because what has 590 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 5: Trevor Lawrence done that he got his contract. 591 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:54,720 Speaker 2: You know, because well he's younger. Dak already got that, right, 592 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 2: he's Trevor's now this is his first contract after being 593 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 2: a rookie. You know, Dak has been out there longer. 594 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 2: You know, this is now his third count will be 595 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:04,960 Speaker 2: his third cut. 596 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 5: But also, I'm like, you're not going to get a 597 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:08,879 Speaker 5: top four draft pick to draft a quarterback next year. 598 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,680 Speaker 5: And also we talked about last show that the quarterbacks 599 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:13,719 Speaker 5: next year aren't even that great, so you might as 600 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:14,640 Speaker 5: well just keep Dak. 601 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 2: But it's it's going to be a big money I 602 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 2: think that will happen. 603 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:18,440 Speaker 8: I do. 604 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 2: I think that will happen. 605 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 3: But they're believe it or not, they're rolling the dice 606 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:27,920 Speaker 3: that if he can't get us over the hump when 607 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 3: he's missed games in the recent past, they've won with 608 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,639 Speaker 3: a guy named Cooper Rush. So if that's all it 609 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 3: takes to just win without winning in the playoffs, and 610 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,400 Speaker 3: we're not winning in the playoffs, why are we paying 611 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 3: him fifty five million a year. 612 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 4: It's the top ten quarterback in the league. 613 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 2: I I sort of agree with you. 614 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 3: I would pay I would pay him the money because 615 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 3: I think you can do a lot worse. But that 616 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:52,640 Speaker 3: would be the augument on the other side. I'm trying 617 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 3: to play a little debt to her. John I think 618 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,640 Speaker 3: he does. I think you said yes with cold feet. 619 00:27:57,720 --> 00:27:58,399 Speaker 2: I agree. 620 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 5: Do you think they're a fill in position away from 621 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 5: winning or is it all because of DAK they're winning. 622 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 2: I think it's all because of the coach. Well, but 623 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:07,919 Speaker 2: that's honest. I think the coach is a problem. 624 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:11,159 Speaker 3: But last year, in that playoff game, DAK sucked and 625 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 3: they fell behind because DAK sucks, But the first half of. 626 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 4: The yached on both sides of them. 627 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 2: Yep, absolutely, they absolutely did. See I That's what I 628 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,640 Speaker 2: was gonna say. You can't blame it on his supporting cast. 629 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 2: They have enough play, they have enough players to but 630 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 2: the coaching has been an issue. 631 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 4: They did a really really good job schematically with that 632 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 4: offense last year. They especially the second half of the 633 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,400 Speaker 4: season when they really started to take off. I'll give 634 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 4: McCarthy credit for the x's and o's, like, hey, they tried, 635 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 4: they did some different things and they were able to 636 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 4: get the offense. But in game, you know, big games 637 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 4: like that, you know, when the chips are in the middle, 638 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 4: like he just McCarthy just seems to get a little 639 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 4: bit of a Do. 640 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 5: You think that Jerry Jones would be willing to keep 641 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 5: Dak but switch the coach or do you think he's 642 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 5: just like Jerry Jones. 643 00:28:57,760 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 2: You know, everyone talks about him being you know this 644 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 2: this guy that you're always on the hot seat. But 645 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 2: it takes him a long time to make change. 646 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 3: But you know why that is, because why he surrounds 647 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 3: himself with bobo's. Well, yeah, that's if he wants the 648 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 3: bobo that's bowing at his feet. I agree, that's why 649 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 3: he doesn't fire. 650 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 2: That's why. But this is it. 651 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 3: If they don't win a playoff game this year, there's 652 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 3: no way McCarthy, he's a lamb ducky your coach right now. 653 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 5: Do you think a guy like Bill is someone they 654 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 5: would go after you be like, okay, we're. 655 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 2: Bringing Bill for absolutely. I said it before, and I 656 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 2: don't know this for sure, but I think that they 657 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 2: made offers to him or showed their interest last year. 658 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 2: And I think Bill because of his head coach, you know, 659 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 2: the fraternity of being in the head coach said you've 660 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 2: got a head coach, I'm not going to talk to 661 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 2: you until you don't have a head coach. I'm not 662 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,480 Speaker 2: going to disrespect a fellow head coach by doing something 663 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 2: back door while he's still there. He'd never do anything 664 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 2: like that, no, listen, I think and I think Bill 665 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 2: has shown. Bill has shown there's certain areas where he 666 00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 2: has a lot of principle uh, and I think this 667 00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 2: is one of them. Like, I'm not going to disrespect 668 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 2: a head coach by doing something. If you want, if 669 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 2: you're gonna fire him and you have a vacancy, I'd 670 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 2: be happy to talk. And so in the case where 671 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 2: next year, if they do get rid of them, I 672 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 2: think the I think they would talk to Bill, and 673 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:16,240 Speaker 2: I think Bill would, especially if they're gonna resign Dak 674 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 2: because now it's like our windows open. We've got to 675 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 2: do it now. Bill's not gonna be here for long term. 676 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 2: We're we're signing this guy to be our head coach 677 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 2: to win Now. I think it's the equivalent of bringing 678 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 2: in a high price free agent at wide receiver just 679 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 2: to get you over the hump. 680 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 7: It makes it makes a lot of sense to me, 681 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 7: And I mean, I find myself too, wondering how you know, 682 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 7: various people in the league might view Bill after this 683 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 7: spring where you know, he kind of he came off 684 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 7: well in the roast, he came off well in Brady 685 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 7: and I you know, he's kind of making the rounds 686 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 7: Like I just I wonder if that's gonna have any 687 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 7: impact on kind of brushing aside alas. 688 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 2: Has a very good cheerleading squad. 689 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 3: Oh, I know, we could go to so I know 690 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 3: you're making a joke, but I'm out there, but I 691 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 3: think you're naive if you think that's not going to 692 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 3: negatively impact him. 693 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 2: I think I think you're right, I think, but knowing 694 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 2: these owners and how the dogs that they are, maybe 695 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 2: not Paul, and they don't want it public. No, they 696 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,480 Speaker 2: don't want it public. But that's public. Yeah, I know, 697 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 2: I know, But like they can understand where Bill's coming from. 698 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 2: Oh no, no, no, I'm not telling you. 699 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 3: I'm not understand where you're coming from. I'm not telling 700 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:31,960 Speaker 3: you that these owners, particularly that one like thanks worse 701 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 3: of Bill BELLI I'm not sorry, But they think very 702 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 3: highly of the public perception I know, and they're fiercely 703 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 3: protective of that. 704 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:41,719 Speaker 2: I agree, and I don't think they want to bring 705 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 2: that in. Knowing we bring that in, who. 706 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 5: Knows, maybe this time next year they'll be married, and. 707 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:49,480 Speaker 2: You know, is that better or worse than what's going 708 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 2: on now? 709 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:52,360 Speaker 4: I can we bring it back to football because I'm 710 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 4: not I'm not touching now with a ten football. The 711 00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 4: real question to Bill, to me is who's your offensive coordinator? 712 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 4: And how involved are you going to be on that 713 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 4: side of the ball. If it's Josh with Dak, I'm in. 714 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 4: But Josh is running the offense, oh yeah? 715 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 2: Like and Bill would have no problem with that. 716 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 4: I don't know that. 717 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I would think. I mean, by all accounts, 718 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 3: multiple reports, you. 719 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,280 Speaker 2: Could have Dak Prescott Josh. Yeah, you know. 720 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 3: I just that's gotta be the first thing Bill does 721 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:28,120 Speaker 3: his trade trade Mike apart. I didn't have a guy 722 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 3: with that much. 723 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 2: I just wonder how he put a staff together. 724 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:32,880 Speaker 7: I mean it was it was so small here, and 725 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:36,800 Speaker 7: there's so few guys that he appears to trust. A 726 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,280 Speaker 7: lot of guys have jobs now. How Like Josh is 727 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:41,640 Speaker 7: an easy one, but does he really get the whole 728 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 7: band back together with Maddy p A lot. 729 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:45,240 Speaker 2: Of his guys don't have to figure it out. 730 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,239 Speaker 7: His like six guys that don't have jobs right now, 731 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:49,640 Speaker 7: that's his staff, like because he doesn't want to try 732 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:51,960 Speaker 7: anybody new or anything like that does more with less. 733 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 4: That was the rumor when he was on the coaching 734 00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 4: carousel with the Falcons and stuff like, that was the 735 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 4: Belichick All Pro staff. It was gonna be Bill Belichick 736 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 4: head coach, McDaniels, O C, Patricia d C, Joe Judge, 737 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 4: special teams and they were going to bring the band 738 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 4: bat together. 739 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:14,200 Speaker 2: But listen, and again, it's for when Now it's it's 740 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 2: a short term fix for Dallas. 741 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I would just worry, and I love Josh, 742 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 4: So if McDaniels is the answer, then maybe it's less worrisome. 743 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 4: But you can't watch the Patriots offense till his last 744 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 4: couple of years here and not be a little bit 745 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 4: concerned about what he would do with that side of 746 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:29,400 Speaker 4: the ball. 747 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,240 Speaker 2: So then Paul brought it up closer to home. Tua, 748 00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:34,240 Speaker 2: what's the situation in Miami? 749 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:38,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. You know, I know that he 750 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:41,400 Speaker 3: is a little antsy. There was a report I think 751 00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 3: Omark Kelly had it. I forget one of the Miami 752 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:48,720 Speaker 3: guys just that that he had admitted that he's you know, 753 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 3: it's something he wants TUA and he's a little antsy 754 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:53,680 Speaker 3: that that hasn't gotten much a little security. Yeah, so 755 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 3: he's playing on the fifty year option, which I understand, 756 00:33:56,680 --> 00:34:00,200 Speaker 3: like Miami would say, she's that would be great because 757 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:03,800 Speaker 3: that's like basically half the going rate. But then you 758 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 3: run the risk of how does he play. Some guys 759 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,759 Speaker 3: play lights out when they're in a contract year, So 760 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,320 Speaker 3: some guys get completely freaked out by it. And I 761 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:14,080 Speaker 3: don't think you want your quarterback with anything else on 762 00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:14,560 Speaker 3: his mind. 763 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,120 Speaker 2: Especially with his injury. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, so. 764 00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:23,640 Speaker 3: I would give Yeah, that's the true for everybody. Last year, 765 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:26,880 Speaker 3: McDaniel needs to win. So if to Paul's point, if 766 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,840 Speaker 3: to his head is in a outer space because of 767 00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,280 Speaker 3: the contract situation, mcdan's. 768 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:32,399 Speaker 4: Gonna get fired. 769 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 3: I expect that to happen. I expect him to both 770 00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:38,960 Speaker 3: both both Prescott and to I think we'll get their 771 00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:42,080 Speaker 3: extensions at some point, you know, I would say before 772 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:45,080 Speaker 3: the start of the season, maybe when camp opens or 773 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:45,799 Speaker 3: around that time. 774 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 2: Bigger odds to lose their job McCarthy in Dallas or 775 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:51,760 Speaker 2: McDaniel in Miami. McCarthy. 776 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,920 Speaker 4: Ary McCarthy is Alex Corra right now, one year left 777 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:56,319 Speaker 4: on his deal. 778 00:34:56,440 --> 00:35:00,360 Speaker 3: I agree with with Evan that you have another eleven 779 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,520 Speaker 3: and six year and don't do anything down the stretch. 780 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,200 Speaker 3: McDaniel will feel some heat, but I don't think he's 781 00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:09,720 Speaker 3: gonna go. McCarthy can go, you know, eleven twelve wins 782 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:11,960 Speaker 3: in the regular season. If he doesn't win a playoff game. 783 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 2: He's out. 784 00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,320 Speaker 3: He is gonna I mean, I think he's definitively gonna 785 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:18,320 Speaker 3: be out. Andy's a lame duck as it is. 786 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:20,279 Speaker 2: Right, there's so much talent on that team. 787 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:22,120 Speaker 5: I was gonna say, it's so weird to see two 788 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,040 Speaker 5: teams with so much talent and not be able to 789 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,120 Speaker 5: do anything with it. Where you're like over here at 790 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 5: the Patriots, you would kill to have some of those players. 791 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:32,000 Speaker 3: Miami doesn't have nearly Dallas' talent, like on both sides 792 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,200 Speaker 3: of the boat. Now they have like the high the 793 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:39,960 Speaker 3: high flyers like Hill and Waddle are tremendous. They don't 794 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,560 Speaker 3: have the kind of talent that that Dallas has, though 795 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:48,480 Speaker 3: they don't have a Micah Parsons on defense, McCarthy, I'm 796 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:51,160 Speaker 3: with Evan like, I think McCarthy's kind of a bozo. 797 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:54,600 Speaker 4: And he's a with all the stuff that we talk 798 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:56,759 Speaker 4: about with Kyle Shanahan. It's like kind of in the 799 00:35:56,800 --> 00:36:00,839 Speaker 4: same category of just like managing the game, calling the game, 800 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,680 Speaker 4: like seeing in the big picture and not getting caught 801 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,719 Speaker 4: up in your play sheet, like time management, like all 802 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:08,960 Speaker 4: that kind of stuff. It's just I think he's a 803 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,120 Speaker 4: good offensive mind, but I don't know if he's a 804 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:11,719 Speaker 4: good head coach. 805 00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:13,799 Speaker 3: The big thing that Miami has to do this year, 806 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:17,000 Speaker 3: whether they win ultimately in January or not, they have 807 00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:21,920 Speaker 3: to find a way to become more consistent at the 808 00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:23,960 Speaker 3: end of the year. This is like two years in 809 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:27,320 Speaker 3: a row now they've shot out like a cannon and 810 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:30,120 Speaker 3: then peter to the finish line and weren't really ready 811 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,560 Speaker 3: to play in the playoffs. Now, you can make an 812 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:37,680 Speaker 3: excuse for them this past year and really extreme conditions 813 00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:40,680 Speaker 3: in Kansas City, but that doesn't excuse losing at home 814 00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,080 Speaker 3: in a Monday night game to Tennessee in December. 815 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:44,960 Speaker 2: That was a bad loss. 816 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:48,120 Speaker 3: They did not play as well down the stretch as 817 00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 3: they did the first three months, and that's a trend. 818 00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:54,000 Speaker 3: And to Evan's point that gets attached to the coach 819 00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:55,399 Speaker 3: and that puts him on the hot seat. 820 00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:56,799 Speaker 2: And it's a trend with. 821 00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,520 Speaker 4: A lot of those types of coaches, with the offensive coaches, 822 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,160 Speaker 4: because all off season there in the lab coming up 823 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,600 Speaker 4: with all this crazy stuff that they're gonna throw at defenses, 824 00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:06,400 Speaker 4: and then you get into the second half of the 825 00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:08,680 Speaker 4: season and everybody starts to catch up. You know, you 826 00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:10,560 Speaker 4: put a lot of it on film, and now all 827 00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:12,920 Speaker 4: of a sudden, the defensive coaches get paid two. And 828 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,040 Speaker 4: it used to happen with Andy Reid all the time. 829 00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:18,520 Speaker 3: The greatest offense I ever saw for a whole season 830 00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,440 Speaker 3: was the Patriots and seven, and that happened. Even to 831 00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:24,359 Speaker 3: that offense. It wasn't as productive down the stretch. It's 832 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:25,840 Speaker 3: because it was the first three months. 833 00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:26,359 Speaker 2: True. 834 00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:28,520 Speaker 7: Yeah, I just watched the World forty two again and 835 00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:30,560 Speaker 7: that can confirm, can confirm. 836 00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:31,279 Speaker 2: Okay, but that you did. 837 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:33,600 Speaker 3: But they won a game like twenty to ten against 838 00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:35,680 Speaker 3: the Jets in December that year. 839 00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:38,480 Speaker 2: You know, it's like Lawrence Moroni, all of a sudden. 840 00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,480 Speaker 3: They you know, even in the playoff games, it was 841 00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:43,520 Speaker 3: like twenty one to thirteen or whatever it was against 842 00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:47,440 Speaker 3: San Diego twenty one to twelve. I think it was 843 00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,400 Speaker 3: was a two score game, you know, like I know that, 844 00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:51,640 Speaker 3: you know, you're like twenty one. 845 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:54,040 Speaker 2: That's not so bad. But they were scoring. 846 00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:57,440 Speaker 3: Thirty eight every game seven, right, you know they they 847 00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:00,440 Speaker 3: had like sort of lost two touchdowns of product off 848 00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:03,040 Speaker 3: of their their offense and down the stretch. 849 00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:03,640 Speaker 2: Yep. 850 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,799 Speaker 7: You could just see when Eli came off that first drive, like. 851 00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:10,120 Speaker 2: They never got into a rhythm. Yeah. 852 00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:11,200 Speaker 4: I kinda yell at him. 853 00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:13,560 Speaker 2: Why were you living this? There was nothing else on? 854 00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:15,560 Speaker 2: What are we going to do? Watch the Celtics parade? 855 00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:15,840 Speaker 8: I don't know. 856 00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:17,840 Speaker 4: Yes, that's much happier. 857 00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:20,640 Speaker 2: Eight five five pass five hundred is the a stick 858 00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:23,840 Speaker 2: and hotline. Eight five five pass five hundred web radio 859 00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:26,520 Speaker 2: at Patriots dot Com is the email address. 860 00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:28,640 Speaker 3: So, Fred, are you interested in buying the Celtics at all? 861 00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,320 Speaker 3: I'm gonna put in a h well, I think a 862 00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:33,600 Speaker 3: group together get an offer. 863 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:39,399 Speaker 2: No, you know, not owning the building is a big thing. 864 00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,440 Speaker 2: I mean, but you could buy I remember the Crafts 865 00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,960 Speaker 2: were looking into Liverpool before John Henry uh bought it 866 00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:49,200 Speaker 2: in uh at the time. You know, first it was 867 00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:51,799 Speaker 2: building a new stadium was a big issue, and then 868 00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,040 Speaker 2: not having a salary cap in the e PL was 869 00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:58,640 Speaker 2: you know we're out. Yeah I remember that. Yeah, but 870 00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:01,520 Speaker 2: I think, you know, not owning your own statedium. Now 871 00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:03,960 Speaker 2: everyone says that like, oh, if you have the Celtics, 872 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:06,759 Speaker 2: you have to have you know, your own facility. But 873 00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:08,840 Speaker 2: I don't know the deal that the Celtics have with 874 00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:11,279 Speaker 2: the Jacobs and Delaware North. I mean, it could be 875 00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:13,959 Speaker 2: such a sweetheart deal where they're not paying any rent 876 00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:16,719 Speaker 2: and they're getting a piece of all revenue that comes 877 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:18,759 Speaker 2: in during their games. I don't know that to be true, 878 00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,719 Speaker 2: but if that is true, maybe maybe it sound like 879 00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,560 Speaker 2: a Jacobs thing and I think events of the thing 880 00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:27,919 Speaker 2: that you yeah, right, but maybe they have a great 881 00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:29,759 Speaker 2: deal where it's not such a bad thing that they 882 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:31,440 Speaker 2: don't own that facility. I don't know that. 883 00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:34,120 Speaker 3: But look at all the money we make on all 884 00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:36,879 Speaker 3: the you know, the concerts season and everything. I can't 885 00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,040 Speaker 3: imagine Jacobs is sharing that with. 886 00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:41,279 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no, I'm just talking about for our game, 887 00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:42,359 Speaker 2: you know, Celtics games. 888 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:44,959 Speaker 3: They get to the Celtics games, they probably make some money, 889 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,880 Speaker 3: but yeah, there's so many laws. That's a huge amount 890 00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:48,719 Speaker 3: of revenue lost. 891 00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,480 Speaker 7: Yeah, are people saying that someone might buy the Celtics 892 00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:53,200 Speaker 7: and not play them at the Garden anymore and make 893 00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:54,000 Speaker 7: their own facility. 894 00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:57,239 Speaker 2: Well that might be. I didn't mean to call it 895 00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:00,239 Speaker 2: the garden. I know it's not really the gen but 896 00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:03,279 Speaker 2: I was thinking about that, you know, comparing the uh, 897 00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:07,360 Speaker 2: you know, the contracts that the Celtics are gonna have 898 00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:10,239 Speaker 2: to pay by next year into twenty six compared to 899 00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:13,759 Speaker 2: this NFL salary cap. NFL salary caps like what to 900 00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:18,000 Speaker 2: sixty yeah, something like that, and the Celtics are gonna 901 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:21,840 Speaker 2: pay paying close to half a billion dollars in salary 902 00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:27,640 Speaker 2: for twelve guys. That's crazy, right, So it's crazy. I 903 00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:30,600 Speaker 2: get it, it's eighty two games. But still, yeah, I think. 904 00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:32,520 Speaker 4: One of the things not to go on the whole 905 00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:34,080 Speaker 4: thing about the selics. But I do find that, like 906 00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:37,480 Speaker 4: this part of it pretty fascinating because from a business standpoint, 907 00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:41,759 Speaker 4: Wick Rosspec is losing money because the roster is just 908 00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:45,320 Speaker 4: getting incredibly expensive. The Celtics are now going to be 909 00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:47,600 Speaker 4: a second Apron team starting next year, so the luxury 910 00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:50,439 Speaker 4: tax bill is going to be incredibly expensive. And Wick 911 00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:53,240 Speaker 4: Rosspeck is not the richest man in the world, Like he's. 912 00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:54,360 Speaker 2: Got a lot of money liquidity. 913 00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:57,759 Speaker 4: Yeah, but he's not. He's not a billionaire, so he 914 00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:00,680 Speaker 4: doesn't have you know, Saudi money. He doesn't have you know, 915 00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:03,719 Speaker 4: Walmart money, Like, he doesn't have that kind of money. 916 00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:07,080 Speaker 4: So just realistically, and they don't know in the stadium, 917 00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:10,160 Speaker 4: so there's no revenue stores from the stadium, So realistically, 918 00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:14,520 Speaker 4: he can't afford the team anymore. In a long term, yeah, play, 919 00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,920 Speaker 4: he can't afford the team anymore. So he doesn't really 920 00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:19,680 Speaker 4: have a choice. Like I think a lot of people 921 00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:22,680 Speaker 4: are like, oh, he's selling high. In five years, he's 922 00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:24,239 Speaker 4: gonna be bankrupt, but he can't afford it. 923 00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:25,759 Speaker 2: Let me ask you a question. Let's just say, I 924 00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:28,279 Speaker 2: know you can't have it, but let's just say an 925 00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:31,200 Speaker 2: n NBA team had every one of their players on 926 00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:34,279 Speaker 2: a max contract. Whatever that adds up to. Are we 927 00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:37,759 Speaker 2: saying that in the NBA, your TV revenue and all 928 00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,880 Speaker 2: the revenue that you get tickets and all that doesn't 929 00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,840 Speaker 2: pay for that, and that any NBA owner with a 930 00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:46,360 Speaker 2: high payroll has to dip into their own pocket. 931 00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:47,920 Speaker 4: Is that what we're saying in the NBA for the 932 00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:49,960 Speaker 4: most part, But they're hoping that that's not the case 933 00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:52,080 Speaker 4: in the NFL. Right, they're hoping, so they have there 934 00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:54,440 Speaker 4: there's a new TV deal that's kicking in in like 935 00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:57,439 Speaker 4: a year or two that is supposed to be three 936 00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:02,080 Speaker 4: times with resemble an NFL style TV package. That's gonna 937 00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:04,640 Speaker 4: do what you're doing, you know you're saying in terms 938 00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:09,800 Speaker 4: of paying the contracts, but it's it's not the NFL, 939 00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:12,680 Speaker 4: so it's not gonna be quite as much money. But 940 00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:15,600 Speaker 4: the bigger problem, like for the Celtics is that so 941 00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:17,480 Speaker 4: they don't own the stadium, so that's not a big 942 00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:21,480 Speaker 4: revenue source. And the regional sports networks like NBC Sports 943 00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:25,799 Speaker 4: Boston are our creator, right, So for the NBA, really 944 00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:29,080 Speaker 4: the only hope that they have to really make teams 945 00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:32,759 Speaker 4: super super profitable other than selling, is probably to go 946 00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:36,359 Speaker 4: to NFL style where it's like four stations have all 947 00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:40,719 Speaker 4: of the games and you just regionally you get we 948 00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,320 Speaker 4: get the Celtics because we're in Boston and you know whatever. 949 00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:46,600 Speaker 2: So that being the case, why are the Celtics valued 950 00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:48,320 Speaker 2: and I don't know where this comes from, end like 951 00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:52,680 Speaker 2: five billion dollars that's NFL valuation. Why without you know, 952 00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:57,200 Speaker 2: I can understand NFL valuations because it's stadium, it's TV revenue. 953 00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:59,680 Speaker 2: It's all that stuff that all you do is roll 954 00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:01,359 Speaker 2: out of that and you make that money if you're 955 00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:03,840 Speaker 2: an NFL owner. I get that valuation. Why are the 956 00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:04,759 Speaker 2: Celtics so high? 957 00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,279 Speaker 3: Well, they do have they do have a lot of 958 00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:11,520 Speaker 3: brand recognition, they have the iconic Yeah, okay, Celtics, it's 959 00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:12,560 Speaker 3: a it's a good question. 960 00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:15,680 Speaker 2: I think they actually a false valuation. I think it's low. 961 00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:21,280 Speaker 3: And from listening to people talk about it, Daniel Daniel 962 00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:24,480 Speaker 3: Dan whi's the sports Uh Dan Daniel Kaplan? 963 00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:25,160 Speaker 2: Is that his name? 964 00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:25,319 Speaker 3: Oh? 965 00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:28,839 Speaker 2: Yes, sports Business Journal Dan Dan Kaplan, that's his name, right. Yeah. 966 00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:31,719 Speaker 3: I heard him talking about that this morning a little 967 00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:33,440 Speaker 3: bit as I was driving in and he said he 968 00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:36,359 Speaker 3: felt like it. You know, it's hard to know these 969 00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:39,080 Speaker 3: things are there's a lot of estimating that goes into 970 00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:42,520 Speaker 3: these valuations. But if he had to guess, it's probably 971 00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:46,360 Speaker 3: a little low. But it's going to change because of 972 00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:49,160 Speaker 3: the stuff that Evan talked about with the aprons and 973 00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:52,800 Speaker 3: the taxes. Not every team has guys that are on 974 00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:56,040 Speaker 3: these max deal, Like the max isn't the same for everybody, 975 00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:59,960 Speaker 3: Like Jason Tatum's MAX is higher than Jalen Brown's MAX 976 00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:04,200 Speaker 3: because of his all LAA and accolades in the past 977 00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:06,800 Speaker 3: when he when he got the accolades. That's why his 978 00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:10,279 Speaker 3: I think he's like three fourteen and Jalen Brown's is 979 00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:15,440 Speaker 3: two eighty five. So and I know that sounds ridiculous, like, oh, well, well, 980 00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:16,520 Speaker 3: j what's thirty million? 981 00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:19,520 Speaker 4: You know, But they're they're on the hook for six 982 00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:23,000 Speaker 4: hundred million, and that's guaranteed money. That ain't NFL money 983 00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:25,120 Speaker 4: where it's like in two years you can you can 984 00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:28,160 Speaker 4: offload the contract. Right, they are on the hook for 985 00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:31,560 Speaker 4: six hundred million dollars for two guys. I don't even 986 00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:35,880 Speaker 4: think Wick grossbec is worth six hundred million dollars by himself, right, 987 00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:38,920 Speaker 4: So they're they're just in a situation where now to 988 00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:42,080 Speaker 4: own an NBA team, you're gonna have to have NFL 989 00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:42,680 Speaker 4: owner money. 990 00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:44,799 Speaker 2: But I would also say that what are they gonna 991 00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:45,360 Speaker 2: pay Pritchick. 992 00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:49,080 Speaker 3: They're gonna pay him in a strict sense of the 993 00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:53,120 Speaker 3: word what Evan said, probably about this year, I could 994 00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:56,040 Speaker 3: see a scenario that maybe they didn't make money. I'd 995 00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:59,640 Speaker 3: like to see the books before I accept that as gospel. 996 00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:02,560 Speaker 3: But I and see that based on like the bump 997 00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:07,320 Speaker 3: in Jalen Brown's contract and the taxes. But for the 998 00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:09,000 Speaker 3: greater part of twenty years, he made a lot of 999 00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:11,600 Speaker 3: money because they didn't have this kind of payroll for 1000 00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:14,479 Speaker 3: the vast majority of that the Bridge Celtics, the little 1001 00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:16,279 Speaker 3: engine that could that they would go into the Eastern 1002 00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:18,879 Speaker 3: Conference finals every year. They made a lot of money 1003 00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:22,200 Speaker 3: on that team. They didn't have these guys on max contracts. 1004 00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:26,239 Speaker 3: So I think there's a lot more built up over 1005 00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:28,560 Speaker 3: the twenty years or whatever fifteen years. 1006 00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:32,320 Speaker 4: Something's happening, because a lot of happened, a lot of 1007 00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:35,160 Speaker 4: a lot of owners are going for the lifeboats in 1008 00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:39,880 Speaker 4: that league, especially Yeah, Mark Cuban. Yeah, a lot something's 1009 00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:43,400 Speaker 4: brewing in the NBA where people business people. 1010 00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:46,920 Speaker 3: Like and Mark Cuban are looking at Hi last out, 1011 00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:52,560 Speaker 3: the Wolves, the even Michael Jordan did the same thing 1012 00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:53,640 Speaker 3: with with Charlotte. 1013 00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:54,319 Speaker 2: So this been. 1014 00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:56,480 Speaker 3: I think there's like six NBA teams that in the 1015 00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:57,359 Speaker 3: last couple of years. 1016 00:45:57,480 --> 00:45:59,960 Speaker 2: Paul, did you not get any food? This is uncomfort. 1017 00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:01,880 Speaker 2: Can't relation it right now. Just Fred's I mean, I 1018 00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:04,160 Speaker 2: just want to know what Fred's gonna say. 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It's your Verizon. 1049 00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:35,000 Speaker 2: What's up, everybody? 1050 00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:37,239 Speaker 6: Let's check out a snippet from the latest episode of 1051 00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:38,960 Speaker 6: The Patch from the Past with Brian Hoyer. 1052 00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:42,759 Speaker 10: What was your first impression when you met tom You know, 1053 00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:46,680 Speaker 10: I pretty much introduced myself in the weakest nerdiest form 1054 00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:49,240 Speaker 10: and fashion when he came up, I said, mister Brady 1055 00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:52,600 Speaker 10: Matt Castle. Because you know, it's an intimidating environment, right, 1056 00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:54,560 Speaker 10: and this guy just came off three Super Bowls. You 1057 00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:56,759 Speaker 10: don't know how to like Normally you go up and say, hey, 1058 00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:58,279 Speaker 10: what's going on, man, Nice to meet you. I just 1059 00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:02,560 Speaker 10: completely geeked out. Well with a mister Brady, He's like, hey, Bud, 1060 00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:04,279 Speaker 10: don't call me that, call me Tommy. I was like, 1061 00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:07,520 Speaker 10: he might have me cut tomorrow based on the fact 1062 00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:08,719 Speaker 10: that he doesn't want to be in the room with 1063 00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:12,479 Speaker 10: somebody like a but no, he was incredible from the jump. 1064 00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:15,080 Speaker 10: I mean we got in there, and then soon thereafter, 1065 00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:18,040 Speaker 10: as we started to get into the work outs that offseason, 1066 00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:21,400 Speaker 10: he's noticed that, Look, I was one of those workout 1067 00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:23,000 Speaker 10: warriors too. I like to go in there. I like 1068 00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:24,360 Speaker 10: to work out, and he's like, hey, you want to 1069 00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:25,680 Speaker 10: work out with me. So he kind of took me 1070 00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:28,160 Speaker 10: under his wing at that point, and from that point 1071 00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:30,399 Speaker 10: on for the next four years, we worked out every 1072 00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:32,279 Speaker 10: day with each other. We were in every meeting. But 1073 00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:36,600 Speaker 10: for me, it was just incredible to watch the professionalism 1074 00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:39,800 Speaker 10: day in and day out, and his leadership. And it 1075 00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:41,800 Speaker 10: was not just with his words, but it was with 1076 00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:45,279 Speaker 10: his actions. It's how he took care of himself, it's 1077 00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:48,480 Speaker 10: how he interacted with his teammates, how he treated one 1078 00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:50,160 Speaker 10: guy because he thought he could get the most out 1079 00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:52,520 Speaker 10: of this guy like Welker, for instance, he could yell 1080 00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:55,040 Speaker 10: at him all day long and Welker would just continue 1081 00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:56,800 Speaker 10: to go, you know. And then there's other guys that 1082 00:48:57,400 --> 00:48:59,600 Speaker 10: maybe like a rainy Moss, that he'd sit there in 1083 00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:01,520 Speaker 10: the locker her after practice and just have a general 1084 00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:05,359 Speaker 10: discussion about stuff because he how how he approached people 1085 00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:09,520 Speaker 10: was different based on their personality and the relationships. So 1086 00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:13,480 Speaker 10: it was just a masterclass in being a professional quarterback. 1087 00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:15,600 Speaker 10: And then to watch what he did week in and 1088 00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:17,040 Speaker 10: week out was just astounding. 1089 00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:19,160 Speaker 3: So you get to be part of that room with 1090 00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:21,520 Speaker 3: you know, the best that's ever done it, and you 1091 00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:24,360 Speaker 3: also get to be coached by a guy who a 1092 00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:26,279 Speaker 3: lot of people think is the best who's ever done it. 1093 00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:30,400 Speaker 3: What do you remember about Bill specifically? But and I 1094 00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:32,640 Speaker 3: know Matt and I tell talk about that story that 1095 00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:36,040 Speaker 3: I think you talked about in the Dynasty documentary about 1096 00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:36,960 Speaker 3: him calling your mom. 1097 00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:41,239 Speaker 10: Oh, yeah, right about being a dumb ass because I 1098 00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:44,279 Speaker 10: missed the corner blitz that was my rookie year. 1099 00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:45,839 Speaker 8: Yeah, it was the last preseason game. 1100 00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:47,840 Speaker 10: I didn't see the week corner blitz, which, hey, they 1101 00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:48,800 Speaker 10: were pretty sneaky about it. 1102 00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:52,319 Speaker 8: This guy's as well. But he definitely called me out 1103 00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:53,160 Speaker 8: in the meeting the next day. 1104 00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:55,880 Speaker 10: He's like, you know, Matt, let's make sure we go 1105 00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:58,080 Speaker 10: through the fronts and check the corner blitz so I 1106 00:49:58,080 --> 00:49:59,839 Speaker 10: don't have to call your mom and tell her hear 1107 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,239 Speaker 10: this is castle. We're sorry your son's in the hospital 1108 00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:05,040 Speaker 10: because he's a dumb ass and from the whole team. 1109 00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:07,960 Speaker 2: I was like, yep, I deserve that one. But Bill, 1110 00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:09,000 Speaker 2: Bill was. 1111 00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:12,040 Speaker 10: He was incredible because he pushed you to limits that 1112 00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:13,759 Speaker 10: you didn't know that you could go, and he got 1113 00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:15,080 Speaker 10: the best out of each of his players. 1114 00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:17,360 Speaker 8: But I always respected about Bill was he had you 1115 00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:19,080 Speaker 8: better prepared for. 1116 00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:23,560 Speaker 10: Any situation, situationally speaking, also just game readiness than I've 1117 00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:27,080 Speaker 10: ever been around. And part of that was even on Tuesdays, 1118 00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:28,840 Speaker 10: taking the time out of his day. On a Tuesday 1119 00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:30,400 Speaker 10: or off day, we'd come in, we'd meet with him, 1120 00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:33,000 Speaker 10: and you've probably heard the story. We sit down, go 1121 00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:38,239 Speaker 10: through every personnel and their defensive back end, safeties, corner strengths, weaknesses, 1122 00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:42,280 Speaker 10: summarize who they are, then even maybe a potential matchup 1123 00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:45,920 Speaker 10: on linebackers, talk about the defensive coordinator and also his 1124 00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:49,479 Speaker 10: lineage and where it came from. Then we'd watch film 1125 00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:51,399 Speaker 10: on all these guys. So by the time you came 1126 00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:55,800 Speaker 10: in on Wednesday, you're rolling. You understand why we're implementing 1127 00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:59,480 Speaker 10: certain past schemes and concepts, who we're trying to attack on, 1128 00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:02,360 Speaker 10: specific crowds who are trying to take advantage of And 1129 00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:05,799 Speaker 10: so you just had this you had this confidence going 1130 00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:09,000 Speaker 10: into game week understanding why we're doing certain things, and 1131 00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:10,239 Speaker 10: there was never that. 1132 00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:14,560 Speaker 8: Wait, what are we doing? And if there was, it 1133 00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:17,400 Speaker 8: was answered right and so. And the other thing I. 1134 00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:20,760 Speaker 10: Always appreciated about Bill was he he was always held 1135 00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:24,800 Speaker 10: everybody to the same standard of accountability. It wasn't like 1136 00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:27,839 Speaker 10: a if you're this guy and your big name, you're 1137 00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:30,560 Speaker 10: you're off limits. And I've been around that that type 1138 00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:33,319 Speaker 10: of program before too. No, it was look, if you're 1139 00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:35,879 Speaker 10: Tom Brady or if you're a free agent, it doesn't matter. 1140 00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:38,600 Speaker 10: If you've messed up, I'm gonna call you out. We're 1141 00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:41,000 Speaker 10: gonna correct it here. It might not be something that 1142 00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:44,080 Speaker 10: you know, everybody everybody's cup of tea like to sit 1143 00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:46,560 Speaker 10: there and get it in the meeting room, but at 1144 00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:50,800 Speaker 10: the same time it's set us level of expectation and 1145 00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:51,920 Speaker 10: a standard for everyone. 1146 00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:54,600 Speaker 11: Paul mentioned the room, Matt, and so your rookie year 1147 00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:58,200 Speaker 11: is three time Super Bowl champ Tom Brady, right, Your 1148 00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:03,040 Speaker 11: offensive coordinator who wasn't a coordinator by name is Josh McDaniels. 1149 00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:04,719 Speaker 8: At that time, because Charlie had just right, Charlie. 1150 00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:08,600 Speaker 11: Just like and ninety seven year old, not kinny, but 1151 00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:10,880 Speaker 11: with the mullet, Doug Flutie. 1152 00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:13,560 Speaker 2: Dougie, what was that quarterback room like that? 1153 00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:14,080 Speaker 5: It was? 1154 00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:14,759 Speaker 2: It was wild. 1155 00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:16,880 Speaker 10: Actually, when I first got here, there was five guys 1156 00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:18,680 Speaker 10: on that depth chart. So they put up the depth 1157 00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:19,879 Speaker 10: chart and I'm going, gosh, I got. 1158 00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:20,200 Speaker 8: Some work to do. 1159 00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:24,560 Speaker 10: It was Tom Brady, Rohan, Davy, Doug Fluteie, Chris Redman, 1160 00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:26,719 Speaker 10: and then myself. I was like, man, these are a 1161 00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:28,600 Speaker 10: lot of veterans and I am a low man on 1162 00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:31,759 Speaker 10: this totem pole. But the cool part was as it 1163 00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:34,720 Speaker 10: all worked out, you know, I was able to establish 1164 00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:38,200 Speaker 10: some credibility there in preseason and make the team. 1165 00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:41,440 Speaker 8: But then Doug was there. And Doug was hilarious because 1166 00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:44,160 Speaker 8: Doug was forty one, right, he's forty one. He almost 1167 00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:45,399 Speaker 8: had a daughter that was my age. 1168 00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:48,719 Speaker 10: He would drive into the facility and have this huge 1169 00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:51,040 Speaker 10: trans am with this eagle on the front of it, 1170 00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:55,560 Speaker 10: like living in the eighties. Oh he's beautiful and he's 1171 00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:57,799 Speaker 10: like a little kid though. He would talk about his heart. 1172 00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:01,520 Speaker 10: He playing this hardball baseball league on the weekends. He'd 1173 00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:03,480 Speaker 10: go down the fin way all the time, the shagg 1174 00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:06,279 Speaker 10: balls with his glove. With his glove, I mean he 1175 00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:11,680 Speaker 10: loved it, and so the stories were just unbelievable day 1176 00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:15,000 Speaker 10: to day. And the only time that it really started 1177 00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:16,960 Speaker 10: to see his age where when those night meetings hit 1178 00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:18,759 Speaker 10: And sometimes you kind of look over and you're like, 1179 00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:20,759 Speaker 10: is done nodding off right now? 1180 00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:22,160 Speaker 8: I think he might be. 1181 00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:25,160 Speaker 10: He's like, gosh, I feel you now. I'm forty two 1182 00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:26,640 Speaker 10: and I'm sitting there. I can't believe he was still 1183 00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:27,399 Speaker 10: playing at that time. 1184 00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:29,560 Speaker 11: I remember this, and you're never going to remember this. 1185 00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:29,839 Speaker 8: Well. 1186 00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:32,000 Speaker 11: You remember the drills, but I remember doing a story 1187 00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:35,880 Speaker 11: video story because I was intrigued. Who am I'm a moron? 1188 00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:40,520 Speaker 11: But every game pregame, Castle and Flutie yep would do 1189 00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:43,560 Speaker 11: this contest, an accuracy contest, where they'd be sitting there 1190 00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:46,160 Speaker 11: and they'd try to hit the goalposts the crossbar. 1191 00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:49,040 Speaker 2: I didn't know that, and it was so cool. 1192 00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:51,520 Speaker 11: To see you guys like really competitive, like, hey, these. 1193 00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:52,759 Speaker 2: Might be the only throws are gonna get all. 1194 00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:55,920 Speaker 11: We get really into it, and was it just it 1195 00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:57,000 Speaker 11: was an accuracy test. 1196 00:53:57,120 --> 00:53:59,000 Speaker 10: There was an accuracy test, so you tried to hit 1197 00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:01,600 Speaker 10: the crossbar. We'd start the fifteen yard line. Go back 1198 00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:03,960 Speaker 10: to twenty twenty five thirty. I think we might have 1199 00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:06,320 Speaker 10: even got to about the forty is when we and 1200 00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:10,480 Speaker 10: whoever whoever collectively hit the crossbar from all those spots 1201 00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:12,320 Speaker 10: one and we do it before every game. It was 1202 00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:14,800 Speaker 10: just a fun little ritual and it was something that 1203 00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:17,840 Speaker 10: he just is like, hey, cast you, let's play, and 1204 00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:18,319 Speaker 10: I was like. 1205 00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:20,520 Speaker 8: All right, let's do it. And then it started to 1206 00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:23,399 Speaker 8: become a tradition where we did on every pregame, we'd 1207 00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:24,239 Speaker 8: go out there and throw. 1208 00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:27,000 Speaker 3: So most Patriots fans would probably say that the most 1209 00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:29,640 Speaker 3: memorable thing that Fluti did was the game that he had, 1210 00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:32,640 Speaker 3: you know, the drop kit, right, Yeah, so that game 1211 00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:35,800 Speaker 3: is really memorable for Matt and I also because you 1212 00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:37,560 Speaker 3: played a big role on it at the end, right, 1213 00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:41,719 Speaker 3: I did so that that finale against Miami, I'm trying. 1214 00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:42,560 Speaker 2: I'm trying, guy. 1215 00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:43,759 Speaker 8: You I can set it for you too. 1216 00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:47,960 Speaker 2: He can speak for himself too, but I just it was. 1217 00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:50,280 Speaker 3: You know, sort of playoff seating at play. 1218 00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:52,800 Speaker 2: And I know that Bill Belichick would never. 1219 00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:57,200 Speaker 3: Maybe intentionally not want to win the game, but it 1220 00:54:57,320 --> 00:54:59,440 Speaker 3: certainly seemed we tied the game into like the last 1221 00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:02,960 Speaker 3: minute or it was you took him and the two 1222 00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:06,759 Speaker 3: point conversion to tie the game. Well, oh, yeah, see, 1223 00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:08,000 Speaker 3: I didn't remember Bam children No. 1224 00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:09,560 Speaker 11: But the other thing is that I remember because I 1225 00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:13,439 Speaker 11: was remember looking at the tape. Is the sideline tape 1226 00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:18,200 Speaker 11: is they score immediately they bring the huddle over the 1227 00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:20,719 Speaker 11: field and there's Bill and there's you know, Tom and 1228 00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:23,400 Speaker 11: everything they're talking about. And it's like, yeah, it's obvious 1229 00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:25,920 Speaker 11: that there's they want to talk about this, and it's 1230 00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:28,319 Speaker 11: not like necessarily, what's the best player to score here? 1231 00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:29,040 Speaker 5: No? 1232 00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:31,239 Speaker 10: You know what the interesting part was was it was 1233 00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:33,600 Speaker 10: a two point play that we had practiced. It was 1234 00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:36,560 Speaker 10: it was a go on the outside and Bam was 1235 00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:38,520 Speaker 10: supposed to set him up, stab inside and come out, 1236 00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:40,759 Speaker 10: and it was a sprint out and they basically were 1237 00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:41,600 Speaker 10: having a conversation. 1238 00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:42,279 Speaker 8: You like this play. 1239 00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:44,120 Speaker 10: I was like, let's go for it because we knew 1240 00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:46,080 Speaker 10: that they were going to pressure us, right, because that 1241 00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:49,520 Speaker 10: was Saban's mentality, and so it was more of a 1242 00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:51,360 Speaker 10: movement play instead of sitting back there and having to 1243 00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:52,560 Speaker 10: throw like a fade rout or something. 1244 00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:54,879 Speaker 8: And he was my number one read and I'll tell 1245 00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:55,600 Speaker 8: you what. I came out. 1246 00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:57,680 Speaker 10: I saw him wide open, and my eyes got big, 1247 00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:00,399 Speaker 10: and I sailed that ball and everybody still this day, 1248 00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:03,839 Speaker 10: says coach Belichick. You know our seatings were going to true. 1249 00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:05,560 Speaker 10: Tell us the truth, throw it over his head. No, 1250 00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:09,520 Speaker 10: he honestly called that play to score. I don't think 1251 00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:13,520 Speaker 10: there was any part of him that did ever even 1252 00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:15,400 Speaker 10: considered like, let's throw this away. 1253 00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:16,759 Speaker 8: Hed never said that. To me. 1254 00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:17,800 Speaker 11: That's a good soldier. 1255 00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:22,719 Speaker 12: When someone accidentally threw away the school play costumes. Oh No, 1256 00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:26,720 Speaker 12: replacements were shipped with FedEx and with picture proof of delivery. 1257 00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:30,600 Speaker 12: Everyone could focus on the perfect opening night FedEx. Where 1258 00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:33,279 Speaker 12: now mean's next for residential delivery only? 1259 00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:37,360 Speaker 8: And now great moments in. 1260 00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:43,080 Speaker 2: History. But that's my point. But they didn't. I think 1261 00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:46,120 Speaker 2: Levy was caught the wave there. He had a great team, 1262 00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:50,719 Speaker 2: great person you know, great players. They were oh my 1263 00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:56,400 Speaker 2: whoa sorry who. It was unnecessary one forever that came 1264 00:56:56,440 --> 00:57:02,040 Speaker 2: out of nowhere. They were. They were loaded. We'll get 1265 00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:04,479 Speaker 2: that on post. Put that on post. 1266 00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:06,760 Speaker 8: That's another great moment. 1267 00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:12,680 Speaker 2: Hey, dude, so are you hosting for the fourth of July? No, 1268 00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:16,600 Speaker 2: I don't think we're doing anything. Actually, Fred, If you are, 1269 00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:19,280 Speaker 2: there's always room for one more. When you snag sectional, 1270 00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:24,440 Speaker 2: snag a sectional, So I guess that's a sofa, right, Yeah, Yeah, 1271 00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:26,760 Speaker 2: there's always room for one more when you snag a 1272 00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:30,720 Speaker 2: sectional during Bob's Discount Furniture for Fourth of July. So 1273 00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:36,360 Speaker 2: there's a lot of shop your choice of feature packed 1274 00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:39,400 Speaker 2: sectionals starting at just seven hundred and ninety nine dollars 1275 00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:42,160 Speaker 2: with everything you need to party in style this Fourth 1276 00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:46,680 Speaker 2: of July, like built in bookshelves, pop up sleepers, charging ports, 1277 00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:49,640 Speaker 2: and cup holders. So stop by and get ready for 1278 00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:53,560 Speaker 2: the Fourth with Bob's Discount Furniture, the official furniture store 1279 00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:58,200 Speaker 2: of the New England Patriots. I'm looking for outdoor cushions, 1280 00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:01,280 Speaker 2: so Bob, if you're listening, you help me out that 1281 00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:05,080 Speaker 2: are completely waterproof. I mean just pressure washing them. Water 1282 00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:07,200 Speaker 2: doesn't get out because the cushions I have, now you 1283 00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:09,960 Speaker 2: have a heavy rain like we've had lately, and they 1284 00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:12,120 Speaker 2: get full of water and you have to tilt them 1285 00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:14,360 Speaker 2: upright and wait for the water to drain out and 1286 00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:19,320 Speaker 2: all that stuff. I want one waterproof outdoor cushions. So 1287 00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:23,200 Speaker 2: I looked them up. They're expensive. They're like one hundred 1288 00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:26,160 Speaker 2: and fifty to two hundred dollars per cushion, plus you 1289 00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:28,120 Speaker 2: probably have to get them custom fit to your furniture, 1290 00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:32,680 Speaker 2: like furniture is pretty stand Yeah, but that's I need 1291 00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:33,720 Speaker 2: Bob hooked me up. 1292 00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:39,240 Speaker 5: I feel like with that though, I would pay that 1293 00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:41,200 Speaker 5: much for it because I feel like it'd be right. 1294 00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:44,040 Speaker 2: But so I have a couch that has three cushions 1295 00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:46,520 Speaker 2: and three backs. Then I have two chairs that have 1296 00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:51,640 Speaker 2: a cushion in a back. Oh, so that's that's six nine, No, 1297 00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:57,880 Speaker 2: six eight ten. So I need ten cushions. A that's 1298 00:58:57,920 --> 00:59:00,920 Speaker 2: over one thousand dollars and cushions. Do you have a cover? 1299 00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:03,760 Speaker 2: I have a cover. I have a cover, but I 1300 00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:05,960 Speaker 2: don't put it on until after the summer is over. 1301 00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:08,200 Speaker 2: I put it to take the cover on and off 1302 00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:11,640 Speaker 2: every time it rains. I just wanted to put the 1303 00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:14,640 Speaker 2: cover on your furniture every night. It's like a ritual, 1304 00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:20,760 Speaker 2: like lowering the pretend this TJA bugle while you're doing it. 1305 00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:23,520 Speaker 2: It takes like literally thirty seconds. It's right out. 1306 00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:27,400 Speaker 3: Is probably in the backyard because you probably haven't Yes, 1307 00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:29,440 Speaker 3: it's not in the front of an expansive like you know, 1308 00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:31,200 Speaker 3: probably in the acres. You probably have to take the 1309 00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:34,040 Speaker 3: golf cart out to the furniture. I just have a 1310 00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:38,160 Speaker 3: little deck off, you know, off the back, and there's 1311 00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:42,960 Speaker 3: a sectional. Yeah, like a l Yeah, so the cover 1312 00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:46,680 Speaker 3: just goes over it. It takes fifteen seconds. And if 1313 00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:48,760 Speaker 3: it rains that night, I have my cushions. 1314 00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:50,600 Speaker 2: Don't get I have a cover for everything. I have 1315 00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:51,720 Speaker 2: a cover for the table. 1316 00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:54,560 Speaker 7: But I'm not doing that about a cushion box, just 1317 00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:57,080 Speaker 7: a box for your cushions to store your cushion and 1318 00:59:57,120 --> 00:59:58,800 Speaker 7: then they stay to a box. 1319 00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:01,480 Speaker 2: I said, it's ten cushions. Yeah, it's a lot of cushions. 1320 01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:04,720 Speaker 2: A lot of cushion for the shed. Eat a shed. 1321 01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:07,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's where the stuff goes in the I 1322 01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:09,920 Speaker 3: would just rather haveave it all out in the winter too. 1323 01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:13,360 Speaker 2: No, I put covers over it. Yeah. See you got 1324 01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:15,720 Speaker 2: to bring it inside and protect that. Bring one inside. 1325 01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:17,320 Speaker 2: All the furniture where am I gonna put it? 1326 01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:22,400 Speaker 3: Evidently someone has a lot more furniture out there than like. 1327 01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:24,560 Speaker 2: I said, I have a couch, cushions, I have two 1328 01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:27,640 Speaker 2: big shares, and I have like a coffee table. I 1329 01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:31,439 Speaker 2: put it all goes away in the winter. I don't 1330 01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:34,760 Speaker 2: want it exposed to the elements, right, prolonged the life 1331 01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:36,120 Speaker 2: of it. Yeah, there you go. 1332 01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:39,840 Speaker 5: Well, it sounds like you're gaving all your stuff out 1333 01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:42,920 Speaker 5: all year long. You should just pay the one hundred 1334 01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:43,520 Speaker 5: hundred and fifty. 1335 01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:45,440 Speaker 7: But it's waterproof enough, I don't know. I mean you're 1336 01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:49,040 Speaker 7: leading like all conditions right ice and like I have 1337 01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:49,680 Speaker 7: this it. 1338 01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:53,520 Speaker 3: Should be like high bar table with barstools, you know, 1339 01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:57,400 Speaker 3: and that when they get wet, it's it's tough because 1340 01:00:57,560 --> 01:00:59,720 Speaker 3: the water you don't know, it's wet, you know, and 1341 01:00:59,800 --> 01:01:01,120 Speaker 3: all of a sudden you sit down, like you have 1342 01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:03,280 Speaker 3: to like dump it and all the waters out because 1343 01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:03,680 Speaker 3: it's all that. 1344 01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:06,640 Speaker 2: Wicker, you know, kind of too much. I don't know 1345 01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:08,880 Speaker 2: what it's called a lot of wicker hate. You don't 1346 01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:10,360 Speaker 2: like the wicker. You don't like the way. You don't 1347 01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:13,040 Speaker 2: know from where you're a would guy or metal. You're 1348 01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:14,880 Speaker 2: a wood would so you're actual. 1349 01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:19,320 Speaker 7: So your Adirondack chairs, there's chairs are actually fully plastic. 1350 01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:22,120 Speaker 3: There's nothing less comfortable than an Adirondack chair. 1351 01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:26,280 Speaker 2: No, there's a good spot. There's nothing less comfortable to 1352 01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:28,120 Speaker 2: sit in now I know. And those get beat up 1353 01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:30,360 Speaker 2: to and get up from. Yeah, like if you've had 1354 01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:32,480 Speaker 2: a few, if you've had a few bud lights, you're 1355 01:01:32,520 --> 01:01:33,920 Speaker 2: trying to get up from an adiron deck. 1356 01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:37,080 Speaker 3: It's oh, it's easy if you're drinking bud Light because 1357 01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:39,160 Speaker 3: it's easy to drink, easy to enjoy, and easy to 1358 01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:40,560 Speaker 3: get out of an Adirondack chairs. 1359 01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:43,040 Speaker 2: Another part of that, thank you Mike. All right, Fred 1360 01:01:43,120 --> 01:01:44,480 Speaker 2: looked at me like, where are you going with this? 1361 01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:48,320 Speaker 5: I want to circle back to a conversation and actually 1362 01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:51,280 Speaker 5: put Evan on blast. We didn't finish our July fourth 1363 01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:52,160 Speaker 5: food conversation. 1364 01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:56,480 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, screw out one. You know, Evan's anti fruit. Fred, 1365 01:01:56,560 --> 01:01:59,080 Speaker 2: he I heard that on the on the mix that 1366 01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:01,720 Speaker 2: Matt did. What do you mean you don't like fruit? 1367 01:02:01,840 --> 01:02:05,080 Speaker 4: Okay? First of all, I said this last week. We've 1368 01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:07,720 Speaker 4: definitely had this conversation. We have definitely had this. You 1369 01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:09,480 Speaker 4: w and I because we're you know, on the road. 1370 01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:11,520 Speaker 4: We talk about you know, right, what's for dinner? 1371 01:02:11,600 --> 01:02:17,000 Speaker 2: Whatever? On strawberry hell no, yea, no, all fruit? All fruit. 1372 01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:21,920 Speaker 2: You're missing out on one of God's greatest gifts to us. 1373 01:02:22,880 --> 01:02:26,440 Speaker 2: What's your favorite fruit? What's your favorite sweet? Like like 1374 01:02:26,560 --> 01:02:29,040 Speaker 2: ice cream, cookie cake, pie, brownie? 1375 01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:31,640 Speaker 4: I don't know, probably I like them all. So it's 1376 01:02:31,720 --> 01:02:33,200 Speaker 4: kind of hard to you like sweet things. 1377 01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:34,439 Speaker 2: Yes, you like sweet things. 1378 01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:38,439 Speaker 5: Okay, but you said there was bad July fourth food. 1379 01:02:39,200 --> 01:02:41,240 Speaker 4: I thought there are bad takes about July fourth. 1380 01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:43,320 Speaker 5: Oh so what's a bad take about July fourth food? 1381 01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:46,400 Speaker 4: Hot dog not a sandwich? And if you think it's 1382 01:02:46,440 --> 01:02:47,400 Speaker 4: a sandwich. 1383 01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:52,720 Speaker 2: I agree, But that's not a fourth of July take. 1384 01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:55,840 Speaker 4: That's just a yeah, it just comes out July. 1385 01:02:55,960 --> 01:02:57,720 Speaker 2: All of a sudden. I get see. I was with Samara. 1386 01:02:57,800 --> 01:03:01,480 Speaker 2: I thought I thought you had like very pacific jew's 1387 01:03:01,560 --> 01:03:05,000 Speaker 2: and don'ts for July food. Yeah, do you put out 1388 01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:07,800 Speaker 2: a platter? No, I just don't make it have fruit 1389 01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:08,040 Speaker 2: on it. 1390 01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:08,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1391 01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:14,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, So if you're having like a totally outdoor 1392 01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:16,640 Speaker 2: thing with like a table with the food, it is 1393 01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:17,840 Speaker 2: bad to like leave. 1394 01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:21,760 Speaker 3: Food out there to get all your little screens, especially 1395 01:03:21,840 --> 01:03:26,120 Speaker 3: if it's like any of your right put potato salad. 1396 01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:30,480 Speaker 3: You got about fifteen minutes, right, If you don't eat 1397 01:03:30,520 --> 01:03:31,320 Speaker 3: it by then, it's gone. 1398 01:03:31,360 --> 01:03:34,880 Speaker 2: Anything Mayo based or dairy based. Yeah, that's why you 1399 01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:37,200 Speaker 2: can have Italian subs. It's no mao, you know's yeah, 1400 01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:40,200 Speaker 2: it's ready to go. Just why it's the perfect sandwen 1401 01:03:40,200 --> 01:03:48,000 Speaker 2: that's right. But when's the last time you had fruit? Oh? 1402 01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:53,480 Speaker 4: God, maybe like a couple of years ago. 1403 01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:55,360 Speaker 2: Oh so what's that reason it wasn't like when I 1404 01:03:55,440 --> 01:03:55,880 Speaker 2: was funding. 1405 01:03:56,560 --> 01:03:58,520 Speaker 3: It's not like my my seafood take that. You can 1406 01:03:58,600 --> 01:03:59,840 Speaker 3: yell at me the last. 1407 01:03:59,720 --> 01:04:02,960 Speaker 4: Time your I tried some apple crisp, because, like I said, 1408 01:04:03,040 --> 01:04:04,200 Speaker 4: that's not really fruit. 1409 01:04:04,840 --> 01:04:07,640 Speaker 2: I mean, it's fruit and sugar. That's god. 1410 01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:08,440 Speaker 5: You know. 1411 01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:11,840 Speaker 4: I just can't believe you into an apple or a 1412 01:04:11,960 --> 01:04:13,080 Speaker 4: peach or a pear, or. 1413 01:04:16,120 --> 01:04:20,120 Speaker 2: Orange grapes like orange juice. It doesn't like watermelon and candalop. 1414 01:04:20,160 --> 01:04:22,640 Speaker 2: Who doesn't like that? Yeah, you don't like watermelon. I 1415 01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:24,760 Speaker 2: just think it's crazy that there's nothing better on the 1416 01:04:26,680 --> 01:04:27,760 Speaker 2: risk watermelon. 1417 01:04:29,480 --> 01:04:32,720 Speaker 5: Try to tell them you can make your breakfast a 1418 01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:36,800 Speaker 5: lot easier, but you just grab an apple, doesn't What are. 1419 01:04:36,760 --> 01:04:39,200 Speaker 2: You talking about? I'm not done perfect. So two years 1420 01:04:39,240 --> 01:04:41,720 Speaker 2: ago you had some apple crisp, But that's not that's 1421 01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:46,040 Speaker 2: not a fair thing to judge fruit. But when's the 1422 01:04:46,120 --> 01:04:50,320 Speaker 2: last time you bit into a fresh, ripe piece of fruit? 1423 01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:51,560 Speaker 4: Probably never? 1424 01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:55,640 Speaker 2: Okay, So you need to try that before you close 1425 01:04:55,720 --> 01:05:00,480 Speaker 2: your mind to it. No, it's closed. Don't be closed mind. Literally, 1426 01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:03,240 Speaker 2: it's not as bad as you're more open minded to 1427 01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:05,640 Speaker 2: the reminder steam it's in contract than you are fruit. 1428 01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:07,040 Speaker 2: That's not very I know. 1429 01:05:08,520 --> 01:05:12,000 Speaker 5: Do you drink smoothies ever? O, God, what that's like 1430 01:05:12,040 --> 01:05:12,680 Speaker 5: a bunch of fruit? 1431 01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:13,920 Speaker 2: Do you like smoothies? Yeah? 1432 01:05:13,960 --> 01:05:16,920 Speaker 3: Sure, see I love fruit, and I will have a 1433 01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:18,160 Speaker 3: smoothie from time to time. 1434 01:05:18,160 --> 01:05:20,840 Speaker 7: I don't love smooth very falling, very filling? 1435 01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:24,840 Speaker 2: Are they very have a smoothie? Everybody? I don't know? 1436 01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:26,960 Speaker 7: I I also just have a I don't really like 1437 01:05:27,080 --> 01:05:28,840 Speaker 7: the I don't really like the big frozen drinks. Like 1438 01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:31,360 Speaker 7: me and Lane, we went to Paris than not real Paris, 1439 01:05:31,560 --> 01:05:34,280 Speaker 7: Vegas Paris and they give you like an Eiffel tower 1440 01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:39,000 Speaker 7: full of like uh, strawberry dackery or something. But it's 1441 01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:40,040 Speaker 7: like frozen drink. 1442 01:05:40,160 --> 01:05:45,200 Speaker 2: That's different. I know it's different, but it's like next 1443 01:05:45,240 --> 01:05:48,200 Speaker 2: week on vacation. I like making smoothies, but then you 1444 01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:53,000 Speaker 2: have to clean up. You have to clean Yeah. I 1445 01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:55,000 Speaker 2: like a good smoothie, though the right day. 1446 01:05:55,480 --> 01:05:57,680 Speaker 3: There's nothing worse than Will Will and TJ making. 1447 01:05:57,720 --> 01:05:58,840 Speaker 2: So everybody keeps telling me. 1448 01:05:59,240 --> 01:06:01,480 Speaker 5: Like a bomb from the kitchen, you're missing out. 1449 01:06:01,640 --> 01:06:04,480 Speaker 2: I'm not because it's just like my I don't like it, 1450 01:06:04,760 --> 01:06:06,440 Speaker 2: so like my taste, Like you don't even know you 1451 01:06:06,600 --> 01:06:07,840 Speaker 2: like it, you haven't tried it. 1452 01:06:08,040 --> 01:06:11,160 Speaker 4: I literally it's not as bad as it was when 1453 01:06:11,240 --> 01:06:12,800 Speaker 4: I was a kid. When I when I was a kid, 1454 01:06:12,840 --> 01:06:16,280 Speaker 4: I like would literally gag, like I get yeah, like 1455 01:06:16,400 --> 01:06:17,720 Speaker 4: it was that, like the smell. 1456 01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:20,720 Speaker 2: Water is so good. I can't even fathom this taste. 1457 01:06:21,360 --> 01:06:26,400 Speaker 2: Like some people don't like that grapes. I was a 1458 01:06:26,520 --> 01:06:29,560 Speaker 2: Brian college. I was a Brian college during training camp 1459 01:06:29,960 --> 01:06:33,800 Speaker 2: when I developed an allergy to pitted fruit. And it's 1460 01:06:33,840 --> 01:06:36,080 Speaker 2: one of the saddest days of my life. How did 1461 01:06:36,120 --> 01:06:38,080 Speaker 2: that happen? I don't know. I was eating a bullet 1462 01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:40,400 Speaker 2: because back then we could eat with the players, so 1463 01:06:40,520 --> 01:06:43,439 Speaker 2: we could go into the cap and take whatever we wanted. 1464 01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:46,560 Speaker 2: They had a whole fruit bar, so I would I 1465 01:06:46,600 --> 01:06:48,800 Speaker 2: would have a bowl of cherries. And I'm sitting back 1466 01:06:48,880 --> 01:06:52,360 Speaker 2: at my desk in the classroom that we worked and 1467 01:06:52,560 --> 01:06:54,400 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, my mouth and my lips and 1468 01:06:54,480 --> 01:06:55,840 Speaker 2: my tongue started swelling up. 1469 01:06:56,240 --> 01:06:59,160 Speaker 3: That is so funny, the same thing, but the same 1470 01:06:59,240 --> 01:07:02,520 Speaker 3: thing happened to me out that I just developed an 1471 01:07:02,560 --> 01:07:04,040 Speaker 3: allergy to pitted fruits. 1472 01:07:04,720 --> 01:07:06,040 Speaker 2: And I love cherries. 1473 01:07:06,120 --> 01:07:08,400 Speaker 3: I love plums. I love I have plum tree in 1474 01:07:08,480 --> 01:07:11,439 Speaker 3: my backyard growing up. I love plums and I can't 1475 01:07:11,560 --> 01:07:14,720 Speaker 3: really eating like the pitted fruits of My throat gets 1476 01:07:14,760 --> 01:07:17,280 Speaker 3: really itchy when when I eat it, so I try 1477 01:07:17,320 --> 01:07:20,840 Speaker 3: to stay away from it. But but I think it's 1478 01:07:20,880 --> 01:07:24,400 Speaker 3: more the skin poll oranges, watermelon, cantalope, all of that stuff. 1479 01:07:24,720 --> 01:07:28,200 Speaker 4: Oranges like they have like the people that to get 1480 01:07:28,240 --> 01:07:30,080 Speaker 4: their peel and disgust. 1481 01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:33,959 Speaker 2: It's like the lobster of fruits. Too much. 1482 01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:36,360 Speaker 4: On the smell. 1483 01:07:37,640 --> 01:07:39,560 Speaker 2: He tweets, like an orange like it's a lobster. I 1484 01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:41,760 Speaker 2: even said too much work. 1485 01:07:43,280 --> 01:07:45,280 Speaker 5: He wouldn't even put like strawberries on top. 1486 01:07:45,480 --> 01:07:48,240 Speaker 7: But I wouldn't either because I don't really loves See 1487 01:07:48,320 --> 01:07:49,760 Speaker 7: that's where I'll call on my team, Evan. 1488 01:07:49,800 --> 01:07:51,760 Speaker 2: I don't like sweets with fruit, like, get the fruit 1489 01:07:51,800 --> 01:07:53,120 Speaker 2: out of here. If I'm having. 1490 01:07:53,000 --> 01:07:54,120 Speaker 5: Apple pie, though. 1491 01:07:57,640 --> 01:07:59,680 Speaker 4: That's fruit. 1492 01:08:00,320 --> 01:08:01,840 Speaker 2: A lot of that is not fruit. A lot of 1493 01:08:02,280 --> 01:08:04,480 Speaker 2: a lot of people, like you know, the ala mode. 1494 01:08:04,960 --> 01:08:06,920 Speaker 2: I like my pies, just the pie. I don't want 1495 01:08:06,960 --> 01:08:10,040 Speaker 2: the ice cream, ice cream. Just just give me the 1496 01:08:10,120 --> 01:08:14,600 Speaker 2: apple pie. That's a vincent brisbee. Really he asked for 1497 01:08:17,360 --> 01:08:20,600 Speaker 2: and asked they can put some ice cream. Give me 1498 01:08:20,640 --> 01:08:23,080 Speaker 2: some of that apple pie adeuts, put some ice cream 1499 01:08:23,120 --> 01:08:27,800 Speaker 2: on it. I'll a cart. Yeah. 1500 01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:31,200 Speaker 3: My controversial take would be pies in general, Like I 1501 01:08:31,240 --> 01:08:34,759 Speaker 3: don't really I don't I like cake, ice cream. 1502 01:08:35,320 --> 01:08:36,840 Speaker 6: Do you ever tried the apple pie with the cheese 1503 01:08:36,880 --> 01:08:37,040 Speaker 6: on it? 1504 01:08:37,400 --> 01:08:39,080 Speaker 2: My dad wouldn't like that. 1505 01:08:39,280 --> 01:08:41,519 Speaker 7: My dad a big apple pie. 1506 01:08:42,160 --> 01:08:44,400 Speaker 3: That's to me, like an American. I don't really like 1507 01:08:44,479 --> 01:08:45,040 Speaker 3: apple pie. 1508 01:08:45,680 --> 01:08:47,840 Speaker 2: You don't like apple pie? Ye, see that's that's the face. 1509 01:08:47,880 --> 01:08:49,840 Speaker 2: I usually like pie. I'm okay with it. 1510 01:08:49,880 --> 01:08:51,600 Speaker 7: I'm not really a pie guy, though. Pie would be 1511 01:08:51,600 --> 01:08:54,040 Speaker 7: in the bottom of like cookies, brownies that I would. 1512 01:08:57,080 --> 01:08:58,599 Speaker 7: I mean, I'm kind of with you on the apple pie, 1513 01:08:58,640 --> 01:09:00,479 Speaker 7: but it's it's a quick fall off to that, like 1514 01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:02,960 Speaker 7: and then I'm like like blueberry, and then then it 1515 01:09:03,080 --> 01:09:04,280 Speaker 7: and then then where are we going? 1516 01:09:04,760 --> 01:09:06,360 Speaker 2: Pumpkin? I like good pumpkin pie. 1517 01:09:06,640 --> 01:09:08,639 Speaker 7: It's all based on how much cream product I'm putting 1518 01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:09,960 Speaker 7: on it, Like is there a bunch of whiped cream? 1519 01:09:11,040 --> 01:09:13,720 Speaker 3: That's not really what they're eating now. I don't like 1520 01:09:13,880 --> 01:09:18,439 Speaker 3: Boston Boston cream pie really pie. I know it's called 1521 01:09:18,479 --> 01:09:19,439 Speaker 3: a pie, but that's the. 1522 01:09:19,479 --> 01:09:22,120 Speaker 2: Only it's not really cream. It's custard. It's good though. 1523 01:09:22,600 --> 01:09:27,519 Speaker 2: I like ace pots cake key lime pie every now 1524 01:09:27,560 --> 01:09:27,840 Speaker 2: and then. 1525 01:09:27,920 --> 01:09:29,960 Speaker 7: It's okay, But like I'm not getting a craving on 1526 01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:31,559 Speaker 7: the weekend for like, hey, let's go for pie. 1527 01:09:31,800 --> 01:09:35,120 Speaker 3: I want would you go to July fourth side? 1528 01:09:36,080 --> 01:09:39,240 Speaker 2: Uh? Like, obviously you get your Burger's dogs, potato salad 1529 01:09:39,320 --> 01:09:45,880 Speaker 2: and and then salad. What's non meat category? 1530 01:09:46,400 --> 01:09:51,400 Speaker 7: Pasta salad, pasta salad, potatoes potatoes like mac salad I. 1531 01:09:51,400 --> 01:09:55,040 Speaker 2: Can't get with. I don't like mayonnaise. The only problem 1532 01:09:55,080 --> 01:09:56,960 Speaker 2: with corn in the cob is not really in season 1533 01:09:57,080 --> 01:10:00,840 Speaker 2: in early July. Huh, it's a little messy. Yeah, it's 1534 01:10:00,840 --> 01:10:02,760 Speaker 2: so good though in like August, corn in the cob 1535 01:10:02,880 --> 01:10:04,519 Speaker 2: is later in the I have a hard time eating 1536 01:10:04,560 --> 01:10:06,320 Speaker 2: it too fresh corner of the cob. 1537 01:10:06,439 --> 01:10:06,639 Speaker 8: Yeah. 1538 01:10:07,040 --> 01:10:09,040 Speaker 2: Wait, so are you a bad tooth? 1539 01:10:09,200 --> 01:10:12,240 Speaker 4: Are you a mayo based pasta salad or oil based 1540 01:10:12,280 --> 01:10:13,080 Speaker 4: pasta mayo? 1541 01:10:13,760 --> 01:10:14,000 Speaker 2: Mao? 1542 01:10:14,960 --> 01:10:17,600 Speaker 4: I could go with either, Yeah, I could go, but 1543 01:10:17,960 --> 01:10:20,760 Speaker 4: I think oil is better. Oil is better, I do. 1544 01:10:22,360 --> 01:10:24,479 Speaker 3: I look fully to those conversations with Zoe again this 1545 01:10:24,560 --> 01:10:27,479 Speaker 3: summer when he tells me to make it like a 1546 01:10:27,560 --> 01:10:29,560 Speaker 3: baloney sandwich that I was like, well, who likes a 1547 01:10:29,560 --> 01:10:30,360 Speaker 3: boloney sandwich? 1548 01:10:30,439 --> 01:10:34,599 Speaker 2: I doesn't like a kid baloney and mustard, boney, cheese, mustard. 1549 01:10:34,760 --> 01:10:37,360 Speaker 2: All baloney is is a raw hot dog, right, nothing. 1550 01:10:37,400 --> 01:10:39,760 Speaker 2: I love baloney, not cook it. My mom used to 1551 01:10:39,800 --> 01:10:43,160 Speaker 2: being people. The kids still leave bolooney these days. 1552 01:10:43,200 --> 01:10:45,080 Speaker 7: Like I used that bloney sandwiches all the time when 1553 01:10:45,080 --> 01:10:45,519 Speaker 7: I was a kid. 1554 01:10:45,560 --> 01:10:49,040 Speaker 2: I like, I used to fry baloney. Yeah, it tastes 1555 01:10:49,080 --> 01:10:50,479 Speaker 2: like a hot dog is good. 1556 01:10:51,760 --> 01:10:52,639 Speaker 5: That just gave me chills. 1557 01:10:53,120 --> 01:10:57,519 Speaker 2: Preferred way to eat a hot dog boiled, steam lengthwise, grilled. 1558 01:10:58,439 --> 01:11:00,960 Speaker 2: I think if you have the time and you're willing 1559 01:11:01,000 --> 01:11:03,000 Speaker 2: to put the effort, grill is the way to go. 1560 01:11:03,600 --> 01:11:06,680 Speaker 5: Grilled or in the oven. Like if I'm not going 1561 01:11:06,680 --> 01:11:08,280 Speaker 5: outside and put it on a baked bacon. 1562 01:11:08,560 --> 01:11:11,679 Speaker 2: Baked hot hadntroversial takes. 1563 01:11:11,720 --> 01:11:13,840 Speaker 5: I mean, it's the closest thing the grilled I'm going 1564 01:11:13,920 --> 01:11:15,160 Speaker 5: to get in my house if I. 1565 01:11:15,160 --> 01:11:18,240 Speaker 2: Don't have Like so you broil it, yes, okay, so 1566 01:11:18,439 --> 01:11:21,640 Speaker 2: not baked. You broil it, but you can put it 1567 01:11:21,640 --> 01:11:24,840 Speaker 2: in a pan with butter and they come out good. Now, yeah, 1568 01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:28,320 Speaker 2: they come up great. And you put the bun in 1569 01:11:28,400 --> 01:11:32,720 Speaker 2: there too. Least I need pretty much any hot dog 1570 01:11:33,280 --> 01:11:33,640 Speaker 2: like I like it. 1571 01:11:33,720 --> 01:11:35,360 Speaker 7: They're all it's all a special day. I'm like, oh 1572 01:11:35,360 --> 01:11:36,040 Speaker 7: it's grilled today. 1573 01:11:37,240 --> 01:11:43,080 Speaker 2: You've already established it. Hot dogs raw. It tastes like 1574 01:11:43,120 --> 01:11:44,400 Speaker 2: Ballooney tastes like baloney. 1575 01:11:44,479 --> 01:11:45,599 Speaker 6: I did the same thing, Fred. 1576 01:11:45,720 --> 01:11:49,000 Speaker 4: Alarm, Well they're not actually row Well, yeah, it's it's 1577 01:11:49,080 --> 01:11:49,960 Speaker 4: cooked meat. 1578 01:11:50,439 --> 01:11:52,840 Speaker 7: But lips and I feel like a lot of like 1579 01:11:53,200 --> 01:11:57,599 Speaker 7: they make them out of. It's a good great outdoors. 1580 01:11:57,800 --> 01:11:59,559 Speaker 2: You know what they may come out of. You need 1581 01:11:59,600 --> 01:12:02,360 Speaker 2: to pass the hour here, shelter. 1582 01:12:03,560 --> 01:12:05,720 Speaker 7: It's all plasure, which means what the lips and a 1583 01:12:05,800 --> 01:12:06,800 Speaker 7: holes never touched the floor. 1584 01:12:09,880 --> 01:12:12,759 Speaker 2: It was blessed. It was blessed by a rabbi. 1585 01:12:12,880 --> 01:12:15,280 Speaker 4: And yeah, I feel like grilled is the best best 1586 01:12:15,280 --> 01:12:16,720 Speaker 4: way for hot dogs. But if you go to like 1587 01:12:16,800 --> 01:12:20,000 Speaker 4: a hot dog place, you know, like in New York 1588 01:12:20,120 --> 01:12:23,640 Speaker 4: or something like that, they don't grill. It's usually in 1589 01:12:23,760 --> 01:12:24,560 Speaker 4: the steamer. 1590 01:12:24,439 --> 01:12:26,920 Speaker 6: Right, they don't really do it anymore, but they used 1591 01:12:26,920 --> 01:12:28,120 Speaker 6: to steam hot dogs and beers. 1592 01:12:28,160 --> 01:12:29,599 Speaker 2: Have you ever, guys, have you ever had those? 1593 01:12:30,600 --> 01:12:33,519 Speaker 4: That's like if you go to to graze Papaya, they're 1594 01:12:33,560 --> 01:12:34,880 Speaker 4: not grilling those hot dogs. 1595 01:12:36,160 --> 01:12:38,160 Speaker 7: I even do the five guys style where they slice 1596 01:12:38,160 --> 01:12:39,880 Speaker 7: them in half and then on the hard top with 1597 01:12:40,000 --> 01:12:41,920 Speaker 7: a little pressed, little crust. 1598 01:12:42,600 --> 01:12:43,920 Speaker 2: Not bad mm hmmm. 1599 01:12:44,080 --> 01:12:46,120 Speaker 5: I think guys, sounds like they would have an elite 1600 01:12:46,160 --> 01:12:46,519 Speaker 5: hot dog. 1601 01:12:46,800 --> 01:12:49,599 Speaker 2: That's pretty good. Ye all right, my wife gets him 1602 01:12:49,600 --> 01:12:52,200 Speaker 2: every once in a while. From five guys eight five 1603 01:12:52,280 --> 01:12:56,960 Speaker 2: five pass, they're excellent. Yeah, split down the middle eight 1604 01:12:57,040 --> 01:13:00,760 Speaker 2: five five pass five hotline, web radio Patriots dot Com 1605 01:13:00,840 --> 01:13:04,000 Speaker 2: as the email address. Let's get to some of these emails. 1606 01:13:04,479 --> 01:13:08,080 Speaker 2: L from Wisconsin, we're talking about maybe Bill going to Dallas, 1607 01:13:08,800 --> 01:13:11,679 Speaker 2: and he says, how much better than the other candidates 1608 01:13:11,720 --> 01:13:14,040 Speaker 2: does Belichick have to be to make the owner okay 1609 01:13:14,120 --> 01:13:15,960 Speaker 2: with having Patricia and Judge in the building. 1610 01:13:17,680 --> 01:13:19,960 Speaker 7: It's interesting. I mean, I I think Bill's going to 1611 01:13:20,000 --> 01:13:22,240 Speaker 7: get one more crack at it. I just think that, 1612 01:13:22,680 --> 01:13:25,160 Speaker 7: like Jerry Jones, it's the perfect example of somebody who just, 1613 01:13:25,400 --> 01:13:27,599 Speaker 7: you know it, all of a sudden becomes the whole 1614 01:13:27,800 --> 01:13:29,800 Speaker 7: narrative of your team. And I think some team is 1615 01:13:29,840 --> 01:13:32,040 Speaker 7: going to be willing to make that jump with you know, like, 1616 01:13:32,160 --> 01:13:34,200 Speaker 7: let's just what's the worst thing that can happen? 1617 01:13:34,240 --> 01:13:35,400 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I kind of. 1618 01:13:35,400 --> 01:13:38,240 Speaker 5: Think that's the only option is McCarthy GM and head 1619 01:13:38,280 --> 01:13:42,800 Speaker 5: coach coach Jerry's Do you think Bill would be okay 1620 01:13:42,920 --> 01:13:44,240 Speaker 5: with not having control? 1621 01:13:44,680 --> 01:13:44,800 Speaker 2: Yes? 1622 01:13:44,920 --> 01:13:46,920 Speaker 7: Yeah, at this point, says he would. I think after 1623 01:13:47,040 --> 01:13:48,960 Speaker 7: a year he you know. I mean it probably would 1624 01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:50,639 Speaker 7: if he went right into it would have been annoyed. 1625 01:13:50,720 --> 01:13:52,880 Speaker 7: But I think at this point it's like, just get 1626 01:13:52,920 --> 01:13:54,600 Speaker 7: another chance and give you the team and just do 1627 01:13:54,680 --> 01:13:55,360 Speaker 7: what you do, coach. 1628 01:13:55,880 --> 01:13:57,080 Speaker 2: Get a good point, Mike. 1629 01:13:57,120 --> 01:13:59,519 Speaker 3: I think he probably has been humbled a little bit 1630 01:13:59,680 --> 01:14:01,840 Speaker 3: by the fact that they weren't falling at his feet 1631 01:14:01,880 --> 01:14:02,400 Speaker 3: to hire him. 1632 01:14:02,479 --> 01:14:04,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, and it's not it's not as big of 1633 01:14:04,640 --> 01:14:07,599 Speaker 2: a you know, it's not as daunting. You have less 1634 01:14:07,640 --> 01:14:10,040 Speaker 2: time with the whole GM duties, more time with your 1635 01:14:10,080 --> 01:14:13,839 Speaker 2: significant other. I don't know why it's okay to suddenly 1636 01:14:13,920 --> 01:14:14,120 Speaker 2: do this. 1637 01:14:15,640 --> 01:14:16,439 Speaker 4: It's okay for him. 1638 01:14:18,320 --> 01:14:21,680 Speaker 2: She's very nice, great person. Seems to be a very 1639 01:14:21,720 --> 01:14:23,920 Speaker 2: important part of his life. Was she a cheerleader though 1640 01:14:23,960 --> 01:14:27,120 Speaker 2: with the Patriots? No, no, no, never. She's an old 1641 01:14:27,200 --> 01:14:31,839 Speaker 2: soul Andrew in la He says, I'm from the future. 1642 01:14:32,160 --> 01:14:34,639 Speaker 2: Two things I'd like to share with you. There's three 1643 01:14:34,760 --> 01:14:38,000 Speaker 2: siblings that have a massive interest in fidelity investments, with 1644 01:14:38,080 --> 01:14:41,200 Speaker 2: a combined net worth of fifty billion dollars. They're also 1645 01:14:41,280 --> 01:14:44,559 Speaker 2: from Massachusetts, and they will be the next majority owner 1646 01:14:44,600 --> 01:14:47,800 Speaker 2: of the Celtics. The Johnson Abigail Johnson. I don't know 1647 01:14:47,840 --> 01:14:51,680 Speaker 2: if her dad's still but she's like, if not the 1648 01:14:51,880 --> 01:14:56,720 Speaker 2: most the wealthiest person mass she's like number two. So 1649 01:14:56,800 --> 01:15:00,400 Speaker 2: the Johnson family is, but I don't I think they've 1650 01:15:00,400 --> 01:15:04,360 Speaker 2: ever had any interest in sports. They've never had, you know, 1651 01:15:05,040 --> 01:15:07,439 Speaker 2: been in the talk of owning any team, So I'm 1652 01:15:07,479 --> 01:15:08,400 Speaker 2: not sure that's their thing. 1653 01:15:09,240 --> 01:15:10,760 Speaker 7: You know, wouldn't that be the best if you were 1654 01:15:10,800 --> 01:15:13,160 Speaker 7: super rich, wouldn't you just want to own a team 1655 01:15:13,240 --> 01:15:16,000 Speaker 7: and just be annoying and if you're around the team constantly. 1656 01:15:16,120 --> 01:15:18,280 Speaker 4: But if you don't like sports, then no, you know 1657 01:15:18,920 --> 01:15:21,640 Speaker 4: Wick is it from Worcester originally, but like same thing 1658 01:15:21,720 --> 01:15:24,080 Speaker 4: as as mister Kraft. Like that's the dream, Like this 1659 01:15:24,240 --> 01:15:26,920 Speaker 4: is your childhood team that you rooted for growing up 1660 01:15:26,960 --> 01:15:29,160 Speaker 4: and now you own it. Like that's the coolest thing ever. 1661 01:15:29,439 --> 01:15:31,800 Speaker 4: Like that, that's like any sports fan. That's got to 1662 01:15:31,840 --> 01:15:35,599 Speaker 4: be like the absolute pinnacle of sports fandom. 1663 01:15:35,720 --> 01:15:37,559 Speaker 2: Could tailgate again, do whatever you want? 1664 01:15:37,640 --> 01:15:39,720 Speaker 7: Really go down into the gym, you know, you just 1665 01:15:39,760 --> 01:15:42,080 Speaker 7: see that's my gym. I'm working out here too, guys. 1666 01:15:42,120 --> 01:15:45,160 Speaker 2: Sorry, yeah, again, Like if you're a sports person, oh, 1667 01:15:45,760 --> 01:15:50,080 Speaker 2: it's it's the dream, you know, but not everyone is. 1668 01:15:50,160 --> 01:15:53,280 Speaker 2: And I don't know if the Johnsons are, Let's go 1669 01:15:53,439 --> 01:15:56,479 Speaker 2: to the phones. Brad's in Ohio. What's up, Brad? Thanks 1670 01:15:56,520 --> 01:16:02,639 Speaker 2: for holding on, Brad, Okay, he wasn't holding on. Matt 1671 01:16:02,720 --> 01:16:04,599 Speaker 2: came all the way in here to get this thing going. 1672 01:16:05,120 --> 01:16:08,519 Speaker 2: How about Willem and Philam, Let's go Willem, what's up? 1673 01:16:09,600 --> 01:16:11,040 Speaker 2: What's up? Well, listen for it. 1674 01:16:11,080 --> 01:16:11,439 Speaker 13: I'm sorry. 1675 01:16:11,439 --> 01:16:12,360 Speaker 2: How you doing all right? 1676 01:16:13,360 --> 01:16:13,720 Speaker 5: All right? 1677 01:16:16,120 --> 01:16:17,559 Speaker 13: Oh my god, I don't know what to say. 1678 01:16:18,160 --> 01:16:19,400 Speaker 2: Hold on so long? You forgot? 1679 01:16:20,400 --> 01:16:21,360 Speaker 13: No, no, no, it's not that. 1680 01:16:21,560 --> 01:16:23,000 Speaker 8: No, it's just the team is. 1681 01:16:23,439 --> 01:16:25,200 Speaker 13: It's frustrates the hell out of me, you know, and 1682 01:16:25,360 --> 01:16:28,120 Speaker 13: just hand a lot of takes and stuff and things 1683 01:16:28,160 --> 01:16:29,920 Speaker 13: don't make sense for me. I mean, maybe y'all can 1684 01:16:29,960 --> 01:16:32,400 Speaker 13: clean the air for me on this one. I said 1685 01:16:32,439 --> 01:16:34,320 Speaker 13: some things on Catch twin two. So now I'm gonna 1686 01:16:34,320 --> 01:16:40,400 Speaker 13: bring this the pictures on filter face. You're right, Evan, 1687 01:16:40,520 --> 01:16:42,640 Speaker 13: Like you know, nobody wants to hear about far As 1688 01:16:43,000 --> 01:16:45,720 Speaker 13: waiting for a vide receiver. I'm trying to be I'm 1689 01:16:45,720 --> 01:16:47,600 Speaker 13: gonna try to keep this clean as possible because I 1690 01:16:47,760 --> 01:16:50,320 Speaker 13: really feel like Cussin's really bad. But I'm gonna try 1691 01:16:50,360 --> 01:16:54,680 Speaker 13: to keep to keep this. I'm trying I'm gonna try 1692 01:16:54,720 --> 01:16:57,280 Speaker 13: it for I know, because that's a lot of editing 1693 01:16:57,479 --> 01:17:02,200 Speaker 13: for up there. All Right, So I mean we passed 1694 01:17:02,320 --> 01:17:07,040 Speaker 13: up on Marvin Harrison, Junior, Roman D's A and Elik Neighbors. Yes, 1695 01:17:07,160 --> 01:17:10,240 Speaker 13: with common sense wise, yes we need a quarterback. I 1696 01:17:10,320 --> 01:17:13,880 Speaker 13: get that we got Drake May done so now because 1697 01:17:15,680 --> 01:17:19,360 Speaker 13: Ellien Wolf messed up with that third pick and when 1698 01:17:19,479 --> 01:17:21,240 Speaker 13: got tackled. Instead of go ahead and go get what 1699 01:17:21,400 --> 01:17:23,760 Speaker 13: Patrick Paul Wright did with the second pick, but you 1700 01:17:23,840 --> 01:17:27,000 Speaker 13: go get Jim and Pope. Okay, I know y'all praising 1701 01:17:27,080 --> 01:17:30,080 Speaker 13: Ellien Wolf like he did the greatest job in all season. Now, 1702 01:17:30,640 --> 01:17:33,360 Speaker 13: I don't think so. I don't especially in the off season. 1703 01:17:33,360 --> 01:17:36,439 Speaker 13: In terms of free agency. Yes, you brought back the court, 1704 01:17:36,760 --> 01:17:40,599 Speaker 13: you spend money, congratulations, but you did a horrible job 1705 01:17:40,680 --> 01:17:43,080 Speaker 13: in terms of bringing in blue chit talent. The only 1706 01:17:43,160 --> 01:17:47,080 Speaker 13: person that might stand out might be what Antonio Gibson. Okay, 1707 01:17:47,520 --> 01:17:50,280 Speaker 13: and here's another take for you too, while I'm at that. Okay, 1708 01:17:52,800 --> 01:17:54,960 Speaker 13: Evan wants to wait till twenty twenty five or twenty 1709 01:17:55,040 --> 01:17:57,519 Speaker 13: twenty six or whenever to get a receiver. You do 1710 01:17:57,720 --> 01:17:59,880 Speaker 13: have an owner named mister Kraft, right, he is getting 1711 01:17:59,880 --> 01:18:02,559 Speaker 13: a h correct, yep, I don't think he. I don't 1712 01:18:02,560 --> 01:18:03,920 Speaker 13: think he want to. I don't think he will even 1713 01:18:03,920 --> 01:18:06,559 Speaker 13: improve of something night Dy, not that I know your 1714 01:18:06,880 --> 01:18:10,120 Speaker 13: season ticket holders too, some of thee might be up 1715 01:18:10,160 --> 01:18:11,760 Speaker 13: in the age too. I don't think they want to 1716 01:18:11,800 --> 01:18:14,919 Speaker 13: wait till twenty twenty six, evan to get DK Metcalf 1717 01:18:15,320 --> 01:18:17,479 Speaker 13: and then not to mention you talking about giving up 1718 01:18:17,479 --> 01:18:19,800 Speaker 13: a first round pick, but then yet we need to 1719 01:18:19,840 --> 01:18:22,200 Speaker 13: tackle too, because Ellien will dropped the ball on that, 1720 01:18:22,720 --> 01:18:24,880 Speaker 13: because we have a tackle that they ain't played left 1721 01:18:24,920 --> 01:18:27,439 Speaker 13: facles since high school? What are we doing? 1722 01:18:28,240 --> 01:18:28,400 Speaker 5: You know? 1723 01:18:28,520 --> 01:18:31,479 Speaker 13: And it's just we in a five year rebuild? Right, 1724 01:18:31,640 --> 01:18:34,760 Speaker 13: it's five years now, okay, I mean we've been waiting long. 1725 01:18:34,920 --> 01:18:38,200 Speaker 13: When is the right time? You had DeAndre Hopkins in 1726 01:18:38,360 --> 01:18:40,880 Speaker 13: your facility, you let him go. You had a chance 1727 01:18:40,960 --> 01:18:44,320 Speaker 13: to get a lot of receivers. There's a lot of 1728 01:18:44,360 --> 01:18:46,439 Speaker 13: chance the patients could have got one building one. 1729 01:18:47,800 --> 01:18:49,000 Speaker 2: When is the right time? Fellas? 1730 01:18:49,760 --> 01:18:50,519 Speaker 13: When is the right time? 1731 01:18:50,640 --> 01:18:51,080 Speaker 2: Ladies too? 1732 01:18:51,120 --> 01:18:52,000 Speaker 13: When is the right time? 1733 01:18:52,200 --> 01:18:56,599 Speaker 2: Well? I think I think yeah, And thanks for the call, William. 1734 01:18:56,640 --> 01:18:59,720 Speaker 2: I you know, did they get everybody that they could 1735 01:18:59,720 --> 01:19:01,840 Speaker 2: have got in this offseason? Probably not? But I think 1736 01:19:01,880 --> 01:19:06,600 Speaker 2: they're trying to be pragmatic about things and you know, 1737 01:19:07,920 --> 01:19:11,200 Speaker 2: maybe we dodged a bullet by not getting Calvin Ridley 1738 01:19:11,680 --> 01:19:15,920 Speaker 2: or you know, I don't know, but the tackle one 1739 01:19:16,200 --> 01:19:18,920 Speaker 2: is an issue. That's a big one. I think they 1740 01:19:19,000 --> 01:19:22,640 Speaker 2: need to address that, and you know, if maybe they have, 1741 01:19:22,880 --> 01:19:23,960 Speaker 2: but it's. 1742 01:19:24,200 --> 01:19:27,120 Speaker 3: I don't think that the off season has been perceived 1743 01:19:27,160 --> 01:19:30,560 Speaker 3: as being great or terrible. I don't really see a 1744 01:19:30,640 --> 01:19:35,400 Speaker 3: lot of people very passionately defending or criticizing what they've done. 1745 01:19:35,439 --> 01:19:37,200 Speaker 3: I think a lot of people have sort of talked 1746 01:19:37,200 --> 01:19:39,040 Speaker 3: about how we did in the first forty five minutes 1747 01:19:39,080 --> 01:19:41,560 Speaker 3: of the show today of you know, clearly it was 1748 01:19:41,600 --> 01:19:45,040 Speaker 3: important for Mayo and Wolf to retain, you know, a 1749 01:19:45,160 --> 01:19:47,439 Speaker 3: nucleus of guys that they were comfortable with and they 1750 01:19:47,479 --> 01:19:49,840 Speaker 3: wanted to keep around to try to establish what they 1751 01:19:49,920 --> 01:19:53,599 Speaker 3: want to do, their culture, you know, their leadership structure. 1752 01:19:54,120 --> 01:19:57,360 Speaker 3: But have you I mean, William made the point just 1753 01:19:57,439 --> 01:20:00,400 Speaker 3: then in passing that you know, I know everybody's you know, 1754 01:20:00,560 --> 01:20:03,040 Speaker 3: applauding everything that Elliott Wolf has done. I haven't really 1755 01:20:03,080 --> 01:20:05,000 Speaker 3: heard a lot of that. And to the flip side, was. 1756 01:20:05,040 --> 01:20:08,160 Speaker 2: The time that they a lot of people were on 1757 01:20:08,240 --> 01:20:09,920 Speaker 2: the Elliott Wolf bandwagon. 1758 01:20:10,000 --> 01:20:11,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll get to that in the said Okay, But 1759 01:20:12,080 --> 01:20:15,240 Speaker 3: on the flip side, we've gotten a couple of questions 1760 01:20:15,280 --> 01:20:18,719 Speaker 3: in the mailbag this week. Why is everybody killing Elliott Wolf. 1761 01:20:18,800 --> 01:20:19,719 Speaker 3: I haven't seen any. 1762 01:20:19,600 --> 01:20:22,240 Speaker 2: Of that either, right, No, I certainly haven't seen that. 1763 01:20:22,880 --> 01:20:25,640 Speaker 3: I haven't really seen a lot of criticism of all 1764 01:20:25,720 --> 01:20:28,360 Speaker 3: of these moves. Now in a vacuum, you can say 1765 01:20:28,400 --> 01:20:29,800 Speaker 3: I like this one, I like this one. I like 1766 01:20:29,880 --> 01:20:32,840 Speaker 3: this one, Evan. I'm not really sure about the Ramadre Stevenson. 1767 01:20:32,960 --> 01:20:33,960 Speaker 2: You know, you know me. 1768 01:20:34,120 --> 01:20:36,400 Speaker 3: I've been a little bit critical of the Kendrick Bourne one, 1769 01:20:36,600 --> 01:20:39,640 Speaker 3: you know, as an example. But I haven't seen widespread 1770 01:20:40,200 --> 01:20:43,519 Speaker 3: criticism of the offseason and Elliot Wolf in particular, have you, guys? 1771 01:20:43,960 --> 01:20:45,599 Speaker 2: No, And I mean, I guess the way I look 1772 01:20:45,640 --> 01:20:48,640 Speaker 2: at it is stopping the bleeding. That felt like what 1773 01:20:48,760 --> 01:20:49,879 Speaker 2: they had to do this offseason. 1774 01:20:49,920 --> 01:20:51,880 Speaker 7: They had to stop the bleeding from this team that 1775 01:20:52,120 --> 01:20:54,320 Speaker 7: was going down the drain for the last couple of years. 1776 01:20:54,360 --> 01:20:56,600 Speaker 7: You had to re establish. Look, here's the handful of 1777 01:20:56,600 --> 01:20:58,479 Speaker 7: players that we like and that we think we can 1778 01:20:58,560 --> 01:21:02,559 Speaker 7: work with. I just I and I understand Williams's point 1779 01:21:02,600 --> 01:21:04,200 Speaker 7: because you can you go back to like, all right, 1780 01:21:04,320 --> 01:21:06,280 Speaker 7: is the rebuild been going on since twenty twenty, so 1781 01:21:06,439 --> 01:21:09,719 Speaker 7: are we now in year five? I understand that frustration, 1782 01:21:09,840 --> 01:21:11,800 Speaker 7: but I just I think it was hard for them 1783 01:21:11,840 --> 01:21:14,080 Speaker 7: to you know, we talked about it all off season. 1784 01:21:14,120 --> 01:21:15,439 Speaker 7: How are they going to thread the needle with a 1785 01:21:15,560 --> 01:21:18,439 Speaker 7: left tackle, a number one wide receiver, a quarterback of 1786 01:21:18,479 --> 01:21:21,000 Speaker 7: the future. Like it just it's overwhelming to try to 1787 01:21:21,040 --> 01:21:23,400 Speaker 7: think how they could have threaded that needle this offseason. 1788 01:21:23,439 --> 01:21:25,360 Speaker 2: It was a lot to ask. I mean, there was 1789 01:21:25,400 --> 01:21:28,080 Speaker 2: a way a lot to do this offseason, and you 1790 01:21:28,240 --> 01:21:29,720 Speaker 2: just you're not gonna get it all done. 1791 01:21:29,800 --> 01:21:31,920 Speaker 3: They needed to get one of them in free agency, Yeah, 1792 01:21:32,680 --> 01:21:36,760 Speaker 3: and they didn't. They picked they did pick whatever one. Well, 1793 01:21:36,800 --> 01:21:39,160 Speaker 3: they didn't get a left tackle in free agency. They 1794 01:21:39,200 --> 01:21:41,000 Speaker 3: didn't they can they can get a guy who plays 1795 01:21:41,080 --> 01:21:44,439 Speaker 3: left tackle. They didn't sign a left tackle. They signed 1796 01:21:44,479 --> 01:21:48,360 Speaker 3: a right tackle, a backup one. At that I think 1797 01:21:48,400 --> 01:21:51,680 Speaker 3: they were starting left tackles that were available, or you 1798 01:21:51,760 --> 01:21:54,439 Speaker 3: could have said, no, no, no, we don't like Jonah 1799 01:21:54,439 --> 01:21:57,160 Speaker 3: Williams or Tyron Smith at this stage. We're going to 1800 01:21:57,200 --> 01:22:00,519 Speaker 3: get one in the draft and made sure they Calvin 1801 01:22:00,600 --> 01:22:04,400 Speaker 3: Ridley or some other number one receiver. They chose neither, 1802 01:22:05,040 --> 01:22:07,479 Speaker 3: and I think that's my biggest criticism. But I'm not 1803 01:22:07,560 --> 01:22:10,080 Speaker 3: I wouldn't kill them for it, And I think Mike's 1804 01:22:10,120 --> 01:22:12,799 Speaker 3: point is very valid. Yeah, you can make an argument 1805 01:22:12,840 --> 01:22:17,000 Speaker 3: if you wanted to say, technically, it's been since Brady 1806 01:22:17,080 --> 01:22:18,879 Speaker 3: left in twenty nineteen, you've been rebuilding. 1807 01:22:19,000 --> 01:22:21,760 Speaker 2: Yep, they don't care about that. This is their first year, right, 1808 01:22:22,200 --> 01:22:23,960 Speaker 2: this is year one of their rebuilds. 1809 01:22:24,080 --> 01:22:24,200 Speaker 5: Right. 1810 01:22:24,840 --> 01:22:27,639 Speaker 2: They're not responsible for what's happened in the past. True, 1811 01:22:27,760 --> 01:22:29,600 Speaker 2: that's what I said, But Robert Kraft is no. 1812 01:22:29,840 --> 01:22:32,759 Speaker 3: But like Robert Kraft isn't making all the personnel decisions. 1813 01:22:32,800 --> 01:22:35,800 Speaker 2: No, I know, but like at some point the buck 1814 01:22:35,840 --> 01:22:36,400 Speaker 2: stops there. 1815 01:22:36,479 --> 01:22:40,360 Speaker 3: Right, No, I get that, But I wouldn't necessarily put 1816 01:22:40,400 --> 01:22:42,960 Speaker 3: it on ownership of why you're spinning your wheel but 1817 01:22:43,360 --> 01:22:44,040 Speaker 3: on the field, and. 1818 01:22:44,120 --> 01:22:46,240 Speaker 2: I think that's why ownership made a change last But. 1819 01:22:46,280 --> 01:22:48,479 Speaker 3: You know that's just me, Fred. I'm more defensive inn 1820 01:22:48,600 --> 01:22:49,560 Speaker 3: than you ten tend to be. 1821 01:22:49,720 --> 01:22:53,080 Speaker 2: I mean, but I think I think the owner realized 1822 01:22:53,120 --> 01:22:55,640 Speaker 2: that we're not spinning our wheels, and that's why they 1823 01:22:55,720 --> 01:22:56,360 Speaker 2: made a change. 1824 01:22:56,439 --> 01:23:00,559 Speaker 3: I would also argue with the like, it's been long 1825 01:23:00,680 --> 01:23:02,240 Speaker 3: enough I mean they won the Super Bowl. 1826 01:23:03,360 --> 01:23:05,479 Speaker 2: I was gonna say that it's not that long ago, 1827 01:23:05,920 --> 01:23:09,240 Speaker 2: like we're so spoiled here, Yeah, it's so spoiled. I 1828 01:23:09,280 --> 01:23:10,880 Speaker 2: don't look at how long do we have to wait? Well, 1829 01:23:10,920 --> 01:23:13,920 Speaker 2: how long does you know Cleveland have to wait as 1830 01:23:14,000 --> 01:23:14,760 Speaker 2: the Buffalo Bills? 1831 01:23:14,920 --> 01:23:17,600 Speaker 4: Right, I don't look at it. And you know, just 1832 01:23:17,680 --> 01:23:19,640 Speaker 4: to talk William off the ledge a little bit, I 1833 01:23:19,680 --> 01:23:21,960 Speaker 4: would just say, don't look at it as a five 1834 01:23:22,080 --> 01:23:26,000 Speaker 4: year It's not five years. This is year one of 1835 01:23:26,120 --> 01:23:28,920 Speaker 4: this regime. And I get it's frustrating that they haven't 1836 01:23:28,920 --> 01:23:32,160 Speaker 4: won a playoff games since twenty eighteen. Regardless of if 1837 01:23:32,200 --> 01:23:34,519 Speaker 4: that's spoiled or not. It's frustrating they haven't won a 1838 01:23:34,560 --> 01:23:37,040 Speaker 4: playoff games since twenty eighteen. But we have to give 1839 01:23:37,200 --> 01:23:41,280 Speaker 4: this regime a chance. And I do think it was. 1840 01:23:42,080 --> 01:23:44,800 Speaker 4: Was it possible, if everything had gone right for them 1841 01:23:44,840 --> 01:23:47,200 Speaker 4: and broke their way this offseason, that they could have 1842 01:23:47,280 --> 01:23:51,280 Speaker 4: addressed quarterback, tackle, receiver and one off season? It was possible, 1843 01:23:51,360 --> 01:23:53,320 Speaker 4: but they would have had to have hit a home run, 1844 01:23:53,400 --> 01:23:55,960 Speaker 4: like they would have had land Ridley and drafted the 1845 01:23:56,400 --> 01:23:58,800 Speaker 4: right left tackle in the second round, and like it 1846 01:23:58,880 --> 01:24:00,880 Speaker 4: all would have had to have gone their way, and 1847 01:24:01,120 --> 01:24:02,200 Speaker 4: so it would have been it was hard. 1848 01:24:02,479 --> 01:24:06,360 Speaker 2: I will say this, since Tom Brady left, the Patriots 1849 01:24:06,400 --> 01:24:13,000 Speaker 2: have not underachieved. Okay, so they got that going for him. 1850 01:24:13,040 --> 01:24:16,559 Speaker 3: Would you have been happier if they signed Jonah Williams 1851 01:24:17,680 --> 01:24:23,080 Speaker 3: and Calvin Ridley or made another, you know, another number 1852 01:24:23,120 --> 01:24:23,599 Speaker 3: one receiver? 1853 01:24:24,080 --> 01:24:24,280 Speaker 2: Yeah? 1854 01:24:25,160 --> 01:24:27,439 Speaker 3: If Ridley wasn't your guy, Like you know, there's been 1855 01:24:27,520 --> 01:24:31,160 Speaker 3: guys available, you know what you know, Jerry Judy, I 1856 01:24:31,200 --> 01:24:32,920 Speaker 3: think if you did that, I think would you feel 1857 01:24:32,960 --> 01:24:34,880 Speaker 3: better about William william Definitely? 1858 01:24:34,880 --> 01:24:37,599 Speaker 4: What I'm wondering if it depends on what they still 1859 01:24:37,640 --> 01:24:39,720 Speaker 4: did in the draft, Like I wouldn't have wanted those 1860 01:24:39,800 --> 01:24:41,200 Speaker 4: guys to be the only thing. 1861 01:24:41,400 --> 01:24:44,120 Speaker 2: Everything else is the same, everything else would be So they. 1862 01:24:44,080 --> 01:24:48,600 Speaker 4: Still draft Polk and Baker, then yes, obviously, but I 1863 01:24:48,720 --> 01:24:51,799 Speaker 4: still would have wanted the young talent in the pipeline. 1864 01:24:51,840 --> 01:24:54,280 Speaker 4: Like if they had draft, if they had signed Calvin 1865 01:24:54,360 --> 01:24:57,240 Speaker 4: Ridley and then said we don't need any more receivers, 1866 01:24:57,479 --> 01:24:59,360 Speaker 4: I would have been like whoa, whoa, whoa, Like what 1867 01:24:59,479 --> 01:25:02,599 Speaker 4: are we doing? But if they had done everything else 1868 01:25:02,640 --> 01:25:04,639 Speaker 4: the same and they had the same exact draft class, 1869 01:25:04,840 --> 01:25:07,120 Speaker 4: but you're just had Calvin Ridley on this team instead 1870 01:25:07,120 --> 01:25:09,439 Speaker 4: of not having Calvin Ridley then not Yeah, obviously I 1871 01:25:09,479 --> 01:25:09,920 Speaker 4: would take that. 1872 01:25:10,160 --> 01:25:13,559 Speaker 5: So with signing Calvin Ridley, would that have knock dropped 1873 01:25:13,560 --> 01:25:16,560 Speaker 5: the ability to resign or extend all the people that 1874 01:25:16,640 --> 01:25:17,280 Speaker 5: we've extended. 1875 01:25:17,840 --> 01:25:18,240 Speaker 2: It should? 1876 01:25:18,320 --> 01:25:20,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, they have like forty five minutes million in cat 1877 01:25:20,880 --> 01:25:22,200 Speaker 3: space now right, Yeah. 1878 01:25:22,240 --> 01:25:24,240 Speaker 4: Depends on how much they would have had to be 1879 01:25:24,840 --> 01:25:29,320 Speaker 4: one perspective, like in terms of cash, like maybe. 1880 01:25:29,040 --> 01:25:30,240 Speaker 2: I don't know cap space. 1881 01:25:30,439 --> 01:25:33,240 Speaker 3: Might Robert Kraft have a different answer to that, yes, right, 1882 01:25:33,600 --> 01:25:35,439 Speaker 3: But that's why I would say I would rather have 1883 01:25:35,600 --> 01:25:39,040 Speaker 3: had a number one receiver and Ridley included because I 1884 01:25:39,160 --> 01:25:43,720 Speaker 3: like Ridley, than resigning every guy they resigned, Like pick 1885 01:25:43,760 --> 01:25:45,960 Speaker 3: a couple of those guys and say, we don't need 1886 01:25:46,040 --> 01:25:49,680 Speaker 3: to keep Kendrick Bourne. I can give the money I 1887 01:25:49,760 --> 01:25:52,280 Speaker 3: gave to Kenrick Bourne to help me put over the 1888 01:25:52,400 --> 01:25:53,479 Speaker 3: top to get Calvin Ridley. 1889 01:25:53,479 --> 01:25:55,720 Speaker 2: I think you probably would see these guys already gone. 1890 01:25:55,760 --> 01:25:58,720 Speaker 3: I don't know Kendrick Bourne probably, Yeah, But that's just 1891 01:25:58,800 --> 01:26:01,160 Speaker 3: the example. Yeah, like that's any is he won obviously 1892 01:26:01,320 --> 01:26:03,479 Speaker 3: because the guy's heard and all that, and. 1893 01:26:03,600 --> 01:26:05,840 Speaker 4: You know kJ Osborne wouldn't be here, Not that that's big. 1894 01:26:05,920 --> 01:26:11,640 Speaker 2: Maybe maybe, yeah, Tim writes in Paul, how is Romandre's 1895 01:26:11,680 --> 01:26:15,280 Speaker 2: contract in the same neighborhood as Christian McCaffrey's. One average 1896 01:26:15,360 --> 01:26:16,439 Speaker 2: is nineteen million a year? 1897 01:26:16,520 --> 01:26:20,439 Speaker 3: The other is he's six running backs? Yeah, but what's 1898 01:26:20,479 --> 01:26:24,559 Speaker 3: the game the average annual value? Yeah, well that's number one. Yeah, 1899 01:26:24,640 --> 01:26:26,880 Speaker 3: he's sixth. But you said they're in the same neighborhood. 1900 01:26:27,920 --> 01:26:30,880 Speaker 3: He's Yes, he's in the top, but that there's but 1901 01:26:31,040 --> 01:26:33,120 Speaker 3: number six. There's thirty two starting running backs. 1902 01:26:33,160 --> 01:26:35,360 Speaker 2: He's six, I know, But what is the gap between 1903 01:26:35,600 --> 01:26:36,920 Speaker 2: him and McCaffrey, Well, what's the. 1904 01:26:36,920 --> 01:26:39,040 Speaker 3: Gap between him and the next guy? You said they're 1905 01:26:39,080 --> 01:26:41,200 Speaker 3: in the same neighborhood running backs? 1906 01:26:41,439 --> 01:26:42,160 Speaker 2: Yeah? Are they? 1907 01:26:42,560 --> 01:26:45,040 Speaker 3: I was talking about McCaffrey, Ecklett, all those guys that 1908 01:26:45,120 --> 01:26:47,599 Speaker 3: you said, not bad company to be in. I'm like, yeah, 1909 01:26:47,640 --> 01:26:50,000 Speaker 3: except he doesn't produce like them, right, But he's paid 1910 01:26:50,120 --> 01:26:51,519 Speaker 3: in that neighborhood. 1911 01:26:51,320 --> 01:26:54,040 Speaker 2: Is he? Yes, this guy says it's ten million dollars 1912 01:26:54,120 --> 01:26:57,280 Speaker 2: less a year. One guy McCaffrey, Right, that's who we 1913 01:26:57,320 --> 01:26:57,639 Speaker 2: were talking. 1914 01:26:57,680 --> 01:26:59,920 Speaker 3: I was talking about all of the guys who caught passes, 1915 01:27:00,160 --> 01:27:03,519 Speaker 3: all right, not just one one guy. 1916 01:27:04,200 --> 01:27:06,599 Speaker 2: McCaffrey's the best running back and because we should play 1917 01:27:06,680 --> 01:27:09,759 Speaker 2: back the tape because that comment came after I said 1918 01:27:10,400 --> 01:27:13,080 Speaker 2: I was comparing. I was talking about in general. So 1919 01:27:13,200 --> 01:27:14,519 Speaker 2: if I misspoke, I misspoke. 1920 01:27:14,600 --> 01:27:17,280 Speaker 3: But I was talking about he's in the upper echelon 1921 01:27:17,320 --> 01:27:20,200 Speaker 3: of running backs paid, he's in that neighborhood. 1922 01:27:20,240 --> 01:27:20,880 Speaker 2: That's where he is. 1923 01:27:20,960 --> 01:27:25,240 Speaker 3: Okay, Oh maybe I did. Maybe I'm guilty of moving 1924 01:27:25,240 --> 01:27:25,760 Speaker 3: the goal post. 1925 01:27:25,800 --> 01:27:28,080 Speaker 2: I learned it from you. I learned it from you. 1926 01:27:29,280 --> 01:27:31,320 Speaker 3: I will if you want to play it back. And 1927 01:27:31,479 --> 01:27:34,879 Speaker 3: I was talking, I wasn't talking specifically about McCaffrey, but maybe. 1928 01:27:34,720 --> 01:27:37,639 Speaker 2: That's I was. Maybe that's what came out, and Tim 1929 01:27:37,720 --> 01:27:38,320 Speaker 2: thought so too. 1930 01:27:38,800 --> 01:27:42,360 Speaker 3: But good Tim, I would argue that he's not even 1931 01:27:42,439 --> 01:27:45,639 Speaker 3: in a planet of Christian McCaffrey, and that the contracts 1932 01:27:45,640 --> 01:27:49,640 Speaker 3: aren't that far apart, okay, like when one's one and 1933 01:27:49,760 --> 01:27:52,720 Speaker 3: one's six, Like that's not that big a gap to me. 1934 01:27:54,160 --> 01:27:57,400 Speaker 3: And there's no impact that Stevenson's never made the impact 1935 01:27:57,439 --> 01:27:58,680 Speaker 3: on a game that McCaffrey has. 1936 01:28:00,360 --> 01:28:03,920 Speaker 2: Uh shutters and Manchester says, how do you think May 1937 01:28:04,439 --> 01:28:07,600 Speaker 2: should be given time in the preseason first drives with 1938 01:28:07,720 --> 01:28:10,880 Speaker 2: the ones? Or Brissett should get the first look? Should 1939 01:28:10,920 --> 01:28:13,000 Speaker 2: May get a largest share of the reps to aid 1940 01:28:13,040 --> 01:28:15,439 Speaker 2: his development. It's a great question. 1941 01:28:15,640 --> 01:28:17,920 Speaker 5: I wouldn't be surprised if we didn't see Jacoby at 1942 01:28:17,920 --> 01:28:19,720 Speaker 5: all in the preseason, Like if we. 1943 01:28:19,800 --> 01:28:22,000 Speaker 2: Just saw it, if we saw, I mean I would, 1944 01:28:22,040 --> 01:28:24,200 Speaker 2: I would, I would. I would play him, I mean 1945 01:28:24,200 --> 01:28:26,840 Speaker 2: I would, I would. Yeah, Yeah, I kind of want to. 1946 01:28:27,120 --> 01:28:28,840 Speaker 2: I kind of want to know what I have in 1947 01:28:28,960 --> 01:28:32,160 Speaker 2: him too. If I'm Alex van Pelt, you know, under 1948 01:28:32,240 --> 01:28:33,680 Speaker 2: my offense, and then what do you do? 1949 01:28:33,960 --> 01:28:35,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, we talked about this on Catch twenty two. 1950 01:28:36,120 --> 01:28:39,240 Speaker 3: I think he probably gets more reps, but the best 1951 01:28:39,280 --> 01:28:40,800 Speaker 3: time with the one I would say definitely in the 1952 01:28:40,840 --> 01:28:41,599 Speaker 3: first and third game. 1953 01:28:41,640 --> 01:28:43,240 Speaker 7: I feel like I would. I would really want to 1954 01:28:43,240 --> 01:28:45,360 Speaker 7: get a look at Drake May. And but I think 1955 01:28:45,600 --> 01:28:47,519 Speaker 7: from my perspective, I think you got to see Jacoby 1956 01:28:47,560 --> 01:28:49,720 Speaker 7: Brissett in the offense and just get a sense of 1957 01:28:49,760 --> 01:28:51,320 Speaker 7: how it feels. I mean, even if it's just a 1958 01:28:51,400 --> 01:28:53,760 Speaker 7: half with kind of the starters, you know, I don't 1959 01:28:53,760 --> 01:28:56,400 Speaker 7: think you could go the whole time without giving Jacoby 1960 01:28:56,400 --> 01:28:58,400 Speaker 7: Brissett an opportunity. But I want to see probably more 1961 01:28:58,479 --> 01:28:58,920 Speaker 7: Drake May. 1962 01:28:59,080 --> 01:29:01,080 Speaker 3: But May has to play in all three games. Yeah, 1963 01:29:01,479 --> 01:29:05,880 Speaker 3: but I wonder I think that's a great question. Gets 1964 01:29:05,920 --> 01:29:06,639 Speaker 3: the reps of the ones? 1965 01:29:06,760 --> 01:29:09,519 Speaker 2: Who plays with the starters? Yeah, don't. I would have 1966 01:29:09,600 --> 01:29:10,960 Speaker 2: guessed that, and the ones play. 1967 01:29:11,120 --> 01:29:14,000 Speaker 4: Jacoby Brissett probably plays the second preseason game with the 1968 01:29:14,080 --> 01:29:17,719 Speaker 4: starters to start the game, and then Drake Bay probably 1969 01:29:17,800 --> 01:29:21,360 Speaker 4: starts one and three, but with the two's. 1970 01:29:21,280 --> 01:29:23,599 Speaker 2: You know not that's probably yeah, right? 1971 01:29:23,720 --> 01:29:25,320 Speaker 5: So do you think it will just be split between 1972 01:29:25,400 --> 01:29:27,280 Speaker 5: them too, and like Zappi just chills. 1973 01:29:27,479 --> 01:29:29,479 Speaker 4: Zappi is gonna chill. Joe Miller might. 1974 01:29:29,479 --> 01:29:32,960 Speaker 7: Get yeah, like fourth quarter, last couple of drives like Cunningham. 1975 01:29:33,120 --> 01:29:36,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, unless they want to showcase Zappy, then I think, 1976 01:29:37,160 --> 01:29:38,280 Speaker 4: you know, third preseason game. 1977 01:29:38,320 --> 01:29:39,640 Speaker 2: I don't. I don't think we have time to be 1978 01:29:39,720 --> 01:29:41,800 Speaker 2: showcasing anyone. We need to get this team ready to 1979 01:29:41,840 --> 01:29:44,280 Speaker 2: play in preseason. 1980 01:29:44,360 --> 01:29:46,280 Speaker 5: But I feel like Zamply doesn't need to be showcased. 1981 01:29:46,280 --> 01:29:47,880 Speaker 5: If you're interested in him as a backup, go look 1982 01:29:47,880 --> 01:29:49,080 Speaker 5: at last season. 1983 01:29:49,439 --> 01:29:49,840 Speaker 2: You're good. 1984 01:29:49,880 --> 01:29:52,680 Speaker 3: I feel like we have this conversation every year, like 1985 01:29:53,080 --> 01:29:55,880 Speaker 3: you don't get any preparation for the season in preseason games. 1986 01:29:55,960 --> 01:29:56,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1987 01:29:56,560 --> 01:29:59,320 Speaker 7: I think the joint practice two feeds into this, Like 1988 01:29:59,400 --> 01:30:01,120 Speaker 7: how are the rep going to be divided up? 1989 01:30:01,160 --> 01:30:02,320 Speaker 2: And joined me, maybe that's better. 1990 01:30:02,439 --> 01:30:04,320 Speaker 7: That's where you maybe get a chance to give Drake 1991 01:30:04,400 --> 01:30:06,880 Speaker 7: May some opportunities against their best defense. 1992 01:30:06,880 --> 01:30:10,320 Speaker 2: I'm still saying Drake May starts week one. Really, since 1993 01:30:10,360 --> 01:30:12,040 Speaker 2: when have you been saying this? I've been saying it. 1994 01:30:12,240 --> 01:30:14,320 Speaker 2: I've been saying it. Wow, people have been talking. 1995 01:30:15,000 --> 01:30:20,000 Speaker 7: I'm making an argument down making an argument in Cincinnati. 1996 01:30:20,680 --> 01:30:24,600 Speaker 2: So I was on with Tony last week and. 1997 01:30:26,360 --> 01:30:28,200 Speaker 3: They asked me about what I would do, and I said, 1998 01:30:28,680 --> 01:30:30,400 Speaker 3: if it were up to me, I would play in 1999 01:30:30,479 --> 01:30:33,080 Speaker 3: Week one. I don't expect that to happen, but you 2000 01:30:33,120 --> 01:30:35,760 Speaker 3: would have thought that. I said, like, if we're up 2001 01:30:35,800 --> 01:30:38,640 Speaker 3: to me, you know, I put Hitler back in powers. 2002 01:30:38,800 --> 01:30:41,240 Speaker 2: Like I got a tacked like what are you doing 2003 01:30:41,400 --> 01:30:43,240 Speaker 2: put in the first first first game? 2004 01:30:43,640 --> 01:30:45,760 Speaker 3: Does don't you think he needs to? Like No, I'm 2005 01:30:45,800 --> 01:30:47,519 Speaker 3: saying like, if it were up to me, and I 2006 01:30:47,600 --> 01:30:51,040 Speaker 3: saw some like, right, what am I doing? Obviously I'm 2007 01:30:51,040 --> 01:30:53,120 Speaker 3: not want to get ready to play if he's throwing 2008 01:30:53,200 --> 01:30:56,080 Speaker 3: up on himself in practices, obviously not. But I'm putting 2009 01:30:56,160 --> 01:30:59,599 Speaker 3: him in there assuming that he is. He has proven 2010 01:30:59,680 --> 01:31:01,120 Speaker 3: in practices. 2011 01:31:00,680 --> 01:31:04,040 Speaker 2: This summer that he's our best quarterback, that he's going 2012 01:31:04,080 --> 01:31:04,880 Speaker 2: to start week one. 2013 01:31:05,040 --> 01:31:08,800 Speaker 3: Obviously shown some development training camp, he hasn't gone out 2014 01:31:08,800 --> 01:31:09,760 Speaker 3: there and fallen down. 2015 01:31:10,680 --> 01:31:14,080 Speaker 7: I just feel like, if you're watching games with Jacobe Brissette, 2016 01:31:14,600 --> 01:31:16,360 Speaker 7: you come out of it being like that was fine, 2017 01:31:16,400 --> 01:31:18,519 Speaker 7: but it doesn't really matter. Like you know, they beat it, 2018 01:31:18,560 --> 01:31:20,439 Speaker 7: they beat a team, they lose a team, it's well, 2019 01:31:20,520 --> 01:31:22,600 Speaker 7: all right, But Drake May's coming and that's going to 2020 01:31:22,720 --> 01:31:23,479 Speaker 7: change everything anyway. 2021 01:31:23,560 --> 01:31:27,880 Speaker 3: So Freddie has me induced I like this. He's not 2022 01:31:28,040 --> 01:31:30,639 Speaker 3: saying he would start in week one. He's saying he's 2023 01:31:30,760 --> 01:31:34,360 Speaker 3: going would start. I don't think he has a chance 2024 01:31:34,439 --> 01:31:35,559 Speaker 3: to if he comes. 2025 01:31:35,360 --> 01:31:37,160 Speaker 5: Out in the preseason though, and he kind of has 2026 01:31:37,240 --> 01:31:39,519 Speaker 5: reverted back to his old ways. But work wise, would 2027 01:31:39,560 --> 01:31:40,599 Speaker 5: you still start him or you're. 2028 01:31:40,520 --> 01:31:43,120 Speaker 2: Like notions on the ground change, I'll change. But right 2029 01:31:43,200 --> 01:31:45,200 Speaker 2: now I'm saying he's going to do what it takes 2030 01:31:45,600 --> 01:31:50,040 Speaker 2: in preseason practice this summer to be the Week one starter. 2031 01:31:50,320 --> 01:31:52,880 Speaker 3: When you watch all the film, what was what was 2032 01:31:52,920 --> 01:31:55,680 Speaker 3: the game that Drake May? Was it NC State that 2033 01:31:55,800 --> 01:31:56,960 Speaker 3: he was terrible. 2034 01:31:56,720 --> 01:31:59,360 Speaker 4: Like terrible state and cles in towards the end of 2035 01:31:59,400 --> 01:31:59,639 Speaker 4: the time. 2036 01:31:59,680 --> 01:32:02,160 Speaker 2: I'd rather have that Drake May start Week one. Then 2037 01:32:02,240 --> 01:32:06,320 Speaker 2: Jacoby Brissette, I understand why. I really do. I think 2038 01:32:06,360 --> 01:32:07,599 Speaker 2: that's the only way to develop. 2039 01:32:08,160 --> 01:32:11,519 Speaker 4: I just think that the best reaction, the reaction to 2040 01:32:11,920 --> 01:32:15,519 Speaker 4: to Paul on his shows that he was physically on 2041 01:32:16,040 --> 01:32:19,479 Speaker 4: still his shows. Uh, it all depends on how you 2042 01:32:19,520 --> 01:32:20,960 Speaker 4: felt about Drake May before the draft. 2043 01:32:21,040 --> 01:32:23,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, they think he's like this, but they listened to 2044 01:32:24,600 --> 01:32:27,280 Speaker 3: two years project, Like, I don't think he's a project. 2045 01:32:27,400 --> 01:32:31,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not like faulting them for that. But if 2046 01:32:31,120 --> 01:32:33,840 Speaker 4: you're somebody like me that that Drake May was great 2047 01:32:34,080 --> 01:32:37,120 Speaker 4: from the start, then I don't understand why it's such 2048 01:32:37,160 --> 01:32:39,760 Speaker 4: an outlandish take to say that week one is a possibility. 2049 01:32:39,960 --> 01:32:43,040 Speaker 4: But if you're somebody that is listening to Orlovsky and 2050 01:32:43,080 --> 01:32:44,560 Speaker 4: he's telling you that the guy needs to sit for 2051 01:32:44,640 --> 01:32:46,599 Speaker 4: two years, then you say week. 2052 01:32:46,520 --> 01:32:48,920 Speaker 3: One, they're going to be like, well, Fred, I'm Fred. 2053 01:32:49,439 --> 01:32:51,439 Speaker 5: Was Josh Allen listed as a project? 2054 01:32:51,760 --> 01:32:56,240 Speaker 3: Yes, significant project, but he started we started note one 2055 01:32:56,360 --> 01:32:57,720 Speaker 3: But he started very early, did he? 2056 01:32:58,280 --> 01:32:58,479 Speaker 4: Yeah? 2057 01:32:58,640 --> 01:32:58,920 Speaker 8: He was. 2058 01:32:59,040 --> 01:33:01,000 Speaker 4: I mean Josh Allen didn't even complete. 2059 01:33:02,200 --> 01:33:03,280 Speaker 2: He was all over the play. 2060 01:33:03,640 --> 01:33:07,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, but you saw he's better than what you have. Well, 2061 01:33:07,479 --> 01:33:09,680 Speaker 4: his row talent was always and I. 2062 01:33:09,720 --> 01:33:12,080 Speaker 2: Think you're gonna see that this summer and I don't 2063 01:33:12,080 --> 01:33:13,680 Speaker 2: think it's just gonna be raw talent. I think it's 2064 01:33:13,720 --> 01:33:15,640 Speaker 2: going to be I would say that until too. 2065 01:33:15,800 --> 01:33:19,400 Speaker 4: Drake May's decision making and just like processing is probably 2066 01:33:19,439 --> 01:33:21,439 Speaker 4: a little bit ahead of where Josh Allen's was coming 2067 01:33:21,479 --> 01:33:22,719 Speaker 4: into the league, but they're similar. 2068 01:33:23,120 --> 01:33:23,400 Speaker 2: Also. 2069 01:33:23,479 --> 01:33:25,720 Speaker 5: I like what Paul mentioned last week where we talked 2070 01:33:25,720 --> 01:33:27,720 Speaker 5: about c. J. Stroud, It's like when we saw him 2071 01:33:27,720 --> 01:33:29,600 Speaker 5: in the preseason, you would have no idea that that 2072 01:33:30,040 --> 01:33:31,240 Speaker 5: to who he was going to be by the end 2073 01:33:31,240 --> 01:33:33,559 Speaker 5: of the season. Like there were two totally different quarterbacks. 2074 01:33:33,680 --> 01:33:34,960 Speaker 2: Can't find out by playing them. 2075 01:33:35,000 --> 01:33:36,960 Speaker 3: Even in like the first game of the year, he 2076 01:33:37,040 --> 01:33:40,839 Speaker 3: played pretty well, Like I didn't. I wasn't very impressed 2077 01:33:40,840 --> 01:33:43,439 Speaker 3: with what I saw, and that again, it just shows 2078 01:33:43,479 --> 01:33:45,960 Speaker 3: you how little those preseason games matter. 2079 01:33:46,280 --> 01:33:47,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, he looked overmatched. 2080 01:33:48,400 --> 01:33:50,080 Speaker 4: Well, I threw a pick I think first play of 2081 01:33:50,120 --> 01:33:51,519 Speaker 4: the game right to Jalen Mills. 2082 01:33:51,640 --> 01:33:54,280 Speaker 3: First, it was the first series anyway, if it wasn't 2083 01:33:54,280 --> 01:33:56,720 Speaker 3: the first play, and he just looked like he was 2084 01:33:56,800 --> 01:33:59,960 Speaker 3: running around and I don't everything looked really fast for him. 2085 01:34:00,200 --> 01:34:01,880 Speaker 3: And then he plays the first game against one of 2086 01:34:01,880 --> 01:34:04,800 Speaker 3: the best teams in football and was more than competitive. 2087 01:34:04,920 --> 01:34:07,880 Speaker 2: I don't know the answer to this, So I'm just asking. 2088 01:34:08,160 --> 01:34:10,000 Speaker 2: I think we've talked about it before, so maybe I 2089 01:34:10,040 --> 01:34:15,120 Speaker 2: should know the answer. How many high first round quarterback 2090 01:34:15,240 --> 01:34:17,840 Speaker 2: picks didn't start in Week one that didn't have a 2091 01:34:17,920 --> 01:34:21,160 Speaker 2: playoff quarterback already on the roster, like an Alex Smith 2092 01:34:21,240 --> 01:34:22,120 Speaker 2: or an Aaron Rodgers. 2093 01:34:22,400 --> 01:34:23,920 Speaker 4: I mean, we I'd have to go back and look 2094 01:34:23,960 --> 01:34:26,280 Speaker 4: at at week one. It's like, off the top of 2095 01:34:26,320 --> 01:34:29,320 Speaker 4: my head, Year one starter I can probably remember. 2096 01:34:29,200 --> 01:34:31,840 Speaker 2: But I'm not saying they started right away, because you know, 2097 01:34:33,120 --> 01:34:35,559 Speaker 2: Year one starter that could be halfway through. 2098 01:34:35,640 --> 01:34:38,759 Speaker 3: Well, just looking at this year, Chicago has already declared 2099 01:34:38,840 --> 01:34:41,800 Speaker 3: Caleb Williams the starter. Washington has already declared Jade o' 2100 01:34:41,920 --> 01:34:43,439 Speaker 3: daniel Jayden Daniels the starter. 2101 01:34:43,920 --> 01:34:45,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, those are the first two picks. 2102 01:34:45,400 --> 01:34:48,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, So, like, I don't know why this is generally 2103 01:34:48,560 --> 01:34:51,080 Speaker 3: how they do that, but everybody does it because they 2104 01:34:51,200 --> 01:34:54,639 Speaker 3: see that some of these like whatever you want to say, 2105 01:34:54,880 --> 01:35:00,360 Speaker 3: sixty first round quarterbacks fail, yeah, seventy nine, whatever number 2106 01:35:00,360 --> 01:35:01,840 Speaker 3: you want to Most of these. 2107 01:35:01,760 --> 01:35:05,240 Speaker 2: Guys fail, all right, fail fast, but fail fast. 2108 01:35:05,320 --> 01:35:07,280 Speaker 3: I just I don't look at it as a cause 2109 01:35:07,320 --> 01:35:09,519 Speaker 3: and effect, Like I don't look at it as he 2110 01:35:09,600 --> 01:35:12,680 Speaker 3: failed because he started Week one as the two overall pick. 2111 01:35:13,960 --> 01:35:16,559 Speaker 3: I don't think it's I don't think that's the case. 2112 01:35:16,720 --> 01:35:19,280 Speaker 3: I don't think it's because of that. And I've heard 2113 01:35:19,400 --> 01:35:21,960 Speaker 3: enough arguments from the other guys that do play that 2114 01:35:22,120 --> 01:35:25,920 Speaker 3: tell you the immense experience they gained that they could 2115 01:35:25,960 --> 01:35:27,200 Speaker 3: not get by sitting right. 2116 01:35:28,120 --> 01:35:31,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, the argument is always is the roster ready for 2117 01:35:31,400 --> 01:35:32,040 Speaker 4: the quarterback? 2118 01:35:32,880 --> 01:35:33,000 Speaker 2: Right? 2119 01:35:33,200 --> 01:35:37,280 Speaker 4: Like so if Zach Wilson or you know, just it's 2120 01:35:37,320 --> 01:35:40,000 Speaker 4: an easy example. But like Sam Darnold had a lot 2121 01:35:40,080 --> 01:35:42,880 Speaker 4: of footwork issues coming into the league. If they didn't 2122 01:35:42,920 --> 01:35:46,200 Speaker 4: have hadn't thrown him into an offense that was terrible, 2123 01:35:47,200 --> 01:35:50,320 Speaker 4: and they waited a year and built up the offense 2124 01:35:50,360 --> 01:35:52,880 Speaker 4: with another offseason and another draft and all that kind 2125 01:35:52,880 --> 01:35:57,000 Speaker 4: of stuff and started stacking together you know, personnel, Would 2126 01:35:57,160 --> 01:35:59,600 Speaker 4: Sam Darnold have been a better player. I tend to 2127 01:35:59,640 --> 01:36:01,160 Speaker 4: think that's a Darnold just wasn't going to. 2128 01:36:01,160 --> 01:36:02,000 Speaker 2: Be the guy he's going to be. 2129 01:36:02,040 --> 01:36:04,679 Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah, and that's it. But like some people would 2130 01:36:04,720 --> 01:36:07,920 Speaker 4: believe that they developed him incorrectly because they threw him. 2131 01:36:07,840 --> 01:36:08,280 Speaker 2: To the Wolves. 2132 01:36:08,360 --> 01:36:10,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, like I had, you know, a part of this 2133 01:36:10,280 --> 01:36:13,720 Speaker 3: with Tony and I like arguing with Tony because he's 2134 01:36:13,840 --> 01:36:15,920 Speaker 3: like me, he's just going to keep on, He's going 2135 01:36:16,000 --> 01:36:19,280 Speaker 3: to keep going at it and never necessarily relents. But 2136 01:36:19,600 --> 01:36:21,479 Speaker 3: he's like, you know, like a guy like Zach Wilson, 2137 01:36:22,120 --> 01:36:25,879 Speaker 3: same team, right, you know, you don't think he was hurt. 2138 01:36:25,720 --> 01:36:28,000 Speaker 2: By playing right away. I go, that's funny. 2139 01:36:28,080 --> 01:36:30,240 Speaker 3: All I ever hear you tell me Tony about Zach 2140 01:36:30,280 --> 01:36:33,439 Speaker 3: Wilson is he's a moron. So that's his fault that 2141 01:36:33,520 --> 01:36:36,479 Speaker 3: he played right away because he's a moron, or maybe 2142 01:36:36,520 --> 01:36:37,799 Speaker 3: because he makes bad decisions. 2143 01:36:37,920 --> 01:36:40,439 Speaker 2: It didn't work right, And whether he played in week 2144 01:36:40,560 --> 01:36:42,439 Speaker 2: five or next year, he's still a moron. 2145 01:36:42,640 --> 01:36:45,519 Speaker 3: Like if he's a moron in year three without ever playing, 2146 01:36:45,560 --> 01:36:47,360 Speaker 3: he's still a moron according. 2147 01:36:46,960 --> 01:36:48,800 Speaker 2: To you, the duck. 2148 01:36:49,800 --> 01:36:53,080 Speaker 3: I just feel like it's so easy to sit back 2149 01:36:53,160 --> 01:36:56,920 Speaker 3: and say you ruined him when it doesn't work. Blame 2150 01:36:57,000 --> 01:36:59,200 Speaker 3: the coaches, don't blame the player, you know. 2151 01:36:59,280 --> 01:37:01,960 Speaker 2: And I get it. Quarterback is a different position. It's 2152 01:37:02,320 --> 01:37:06,280 Speaker 2: it's unique among kind of all positions in sports. But 2153 01:37:06,439 --> 01:37:09,519 Speaker 2: is there any other position in any sport where you 2154 01:37:09,600 --> 01:37:11,600 Speaker 2: say it's better to not play than to play in 2155 01:37:11,760 --> 01:37:15,760 Speaker 2: order to get better. It's better to not play. The 2156 01:37:16,200 --> 01:37:17,719 Speaker 2: miners right, but they're playing. 2157 01:37:18,120 --> 01:37:21,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's right, Like I don't understand what that sports, 2158 01:37:21,760 --> 01:37:24,360 Speaker 3: but that's ample. But that's an example of what he's 2159 01:37:24,360 --> 01:37:26,200 Speaker 3: talking about. Like, even if you like take it to 2160 01:37:26,280 --> 01:37:28,000 Speaker 3: like a high school level, you get like a young 2161 01:37:28,120 --> 01:37:31,200 Speaker 3: kid who's good enough to be on varsity, but he's 2162 01:37:31,240 --> 01:37:31,800 Speaker 3: not gonna play. 2163 01:37:32,200 --> 01:37:33,760 Speaker 2: What do they do? They send him to JV so 2164 01:37:33,880 --> 01:37:35,920 Speaker 2: he plays every day. You don't sit him on. 2165 01:37:36,040 --> 01:37:38,680 Speaker 3: You don't like say, well, he's really gonna learn as 2166 01:37:38,720 --> 01:37:41,200 Speaker 3: a freshman sitting and watching all the varsity games more 2167 01:37:41,240 --> 01:37:43,280 Speaker 3: than he would be playing in the JV games. Well, 2168 01:37:43,360 --> 01:37:45,280 Speaker 3: that's what they basically do to these quarterbacks. 2169 01:37:46,200 --> 01:37:47,840 Speaker 5: They don't do it a lot, but I feel like 2170 01:37:47,920 --> 01:37:51,040 Speaker 5: that's gonna happen to Brownie. Like Brownie's not ready, but 2171 01:37:51,080 --> 01:37:52,280 Speaker 5: he doesn't need to be sitting. 2172 01:37:52,040 --> 01:37:52,439 Speaker 4: On the bench. 2173 01:37:52,560 --> 01:37:55,920 Speaker 5: He's not ready because he's probably correct, but I feel 2174 01:37:55,920 --> 01:37:58,479 Speaker 5: like they're they're gonna make it playing the gi Yeah 2175 01:37:58,560 --> 01:37:59,080 Speaker 5: for sure. 2176 01:37:59,000 --> 01:38:01,679 Speaker 2: Because ideas you're playing. Yeah. 2177 01:38:02,160 --> 01:38:05,120 Speaker 3: My favorite line on that was Rich Paul the day 2178 01:38:05,120 --> 01:38:07,880 Speaker 3: of the draft imploring all the teams not to draft 2179 01:38:07,960 --> 01:38:09,480 Speaker 3: him because he's just going to go to Australia. 2180 01:38:10,120 --> 01:38:13,240 Speaker 2: Got it thanks to see uh good hey, mate, Like, 2181 01:38:13,320 --> 01:38:13,640 Speaker 2: there was. 2182 01:38:13,680 --> 01:38:16,040 Speaker 3: No chance that anybody other than the Lakers was going 2183 01:38:16,080 --> 01:38:18,639 Speaker 3: to draft him. And I don't care about the nepotism. 2184 01:38:18,680 --> 01:38:21,360 Speaker 3: You could do whatever you want. That's your team. You've 2185 01:38:21,560 --> 01:38:24,960 Speaker 3: sold your soul to Lebron. He's hired the last however 2186 01:38:25,080 --> 01:38:27,439 Speaker 3: many coaches. What's the difference, Like, I don't care about that, 2187 01:38:27,600 --> 01:38:29,360 Speaker 3: But just don't tell me that it was a pick 2188 01:38:29,439 --> 01:38:31,320 Speaker 3: that you made because of the player. 2189 01:38:31,400 --> 01:38:36,000 Speaker 2: He's the best player available. Yeah, hey, Mike, this is 2190 01:38:36,080 --> 01:38:41,599 Speaker 2: from Eric in Mike el Paso. They're filming a Wes 2191 01:38:41,760 --> 01:38:45,880 Speaker 2: Anderson movie here with Leonardo DiCaprio and Benecio del Toro. 2192 01:38:46,600 --> 01:38:49,400 Speaker 2: Anything to look for that may be cool behind the scenes, 2193 01:38:49,520 --> 01:38:52,519 Speaker 2: like setups and stuff like that. Sure, Yeah, I. 2194 01:38:52,560 --> 01:38:54,519 Speaker 7: Mean go try to be an extra, maybe make a 2195 01:38:54,960 --> 01:38:57,040 Speaker 7: make a day rate, get some free lunch. 2196 01:38:58,000 --> 01:39:02,120 Speaker 2: My roommate did that and they were filming a spencer 2197 01:39:02,160 --> 01:39:05,760 Speaker 2: for hire on Boylson Street and he got to be 2198 01:39:05,840 --> 01:39:07,920 Speaker 2: an extra. Yeah, yeah, got it. Well play. 2199 01:39:07,960 --> 01:39:13,720 Speaker 7: Paul's got the best stories about being extraving left feel 2200 01:39:13,720 --> 01:39:16,519 Speaker 7: the dreams that I would just say though, and I 2201 01:39:16,600 --> 01:39:18,000 Speaker 7: said this to all these guys, know it, Like I 2202 01:39:18,120 --> 01:39:22,240 Speaker 7: find being on set tedious and my numbing. So I 2203 01:39:22,439 --> 01:39:24,320 Speaker 7: I if you want to go and watch them, like 2204 01:39:24,560 --> 01:39:27,120 Speaker 7: shoot the same scenes six times and relight it and. 2205 01:39:28,240 --> 01:39:30,719 Speaker 2: It's a it's a long day. It's a long process. 2206 01:39:31,080 --> 01:39:35,120 Speaker 2: Not for me. Alex in New York, my son literally 2207 01:39:35,280 --> 01:39:39,000 Speaker 2: gags if you put any fruit in his mouth. And 2208 01:39:39,520 --> 01:39:42,720 Speaker 2: while I love fruit, I just don't understand it. Allergies 2209 01:39:42,760 --> 01:39:45,200 Speaker 2: to pitted fruit are because they grow on trees. If 2210 01:39:45,240 --> 01:39:48,280 Speaker 2: you have allergies to trees, you have allergies to things 2211 01:39:48,360 --> 01:39:50,720 Speaker 2: that grow on trees. I have the same issue. I 2212 01:39:50,840 --> 01:39:53,000 Speaker 2: used to get itchy when I ate pitted fruit and 2213 01:39:53,080 --> 01:39:56,559 Speaker 2: have had allergy shots for trees and I'm no longer allergic. 2214 01:39:57,320 --> 01:40:00,320 Speaker 2: Givem that a shot. On the earlier note about Roman Drake, 2215 01:40:00,880 --> 01:40:03,519 Speaker 2: are they putting too many eggs in one basket? Keeping 2216 01:40:03,560 --> 01:40:06,840 Speaker 2: the running back room so lean? If Mandri gets hurt, 2217 01:40:07,280 --> 01:40:10,800 Speaker 2: then it's just Gibson And who do you anticipate us 2218 01:40:10,840 --> 01:40:13,559 Speaker 2: picking up another running back before the season, perhaps during 2219 01:40:13,640 --> 01:40:17,320 Speaker 2: camp after cutdowns? I think, so there's a lot out there. 2220 01:40:17,360 --> 01:40:18,400 Speaker 2: That's the thing again. 2221 01:40:18,840 --> 01:40:20,600 Speaker 3: So I have something that was just sent to me 2222 01:40:21,439 --> 01:40:24,519 Speaker 3: from Bett online. You can have a little fun here. 2223 01:40:24,720 --> 01:40:28,360 Speaker 3: Late in the show, they have the opening twenty twenty 2224 01:40:28,400 --> 01:40:30,160 Speaker 3: four NFL quarterback Stats. 2225 01:40:30,360 --> 01:40:31,680 Speaker 2: Oh, so they take like. 2226 01:40:31,760 --> 01:40:34,800 Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers regular season passing yards over under thirty seven 2227 01:40:34,920 --> 01:40:39,800 Speaker 3: hundred and a half. Oh, wokay, so they interestingly, I 2228 01:40:39,960 --> 01:40:45,479 Speaker 3: think they list Drake May, not Jacoby Brissett. So what 2229 01:40:45,600 --> 01:40:48,599 Speaker 3: do you think they have listed for the regular season 2230 01:40:48,720 --> 01:40:50,800 Speaker 3: passing yards over under total for Drake May? 2231 01:40:50,880 --> 01:40:52,599 Speaker 2: Twenty six hundred, fifteen hundred. 2232 01:40:52,680 --> 01:40:54,880 Speaker 4: That's going to say nineteen hundred, okay. 2233 01:40:54,800 --> 01:40:58,320 Speaker 2: Thirty one hundred and a half. It's had a lot 2234 01:40:58,360 --> 01:41:01,680 Speaker 2: Today's NFL. No, but obviously he's going to play three 2235 01:41:01,760 --> 01:41:02,800 Speaker 2: quarters season. 2236 01:41:04,240 --> 01:41:10,240 Speaker 3: Regular season passing touchdowns twelve ten, seventeen, twenty, fifteen and 2237 01:41:10,320 --> 01:41:13,200 Speaker 3: a half, fifteen and a half, interceptions. 2238 01:41:13,520 --> 01:41:17,240 Speaker 2: Fifteen and twelve twelve. Oh, we got it, twelve and 2239 01:41:17,280 --> 01:41:21,840 Speaker 2: a half. Those are the numbers. Wow, those are the numbers, 2240 01:41:21,840 --> 01:41:26,360 Speaker 2: and they are undisputed. I mean, but it's that that 2241 01:41:26,439 --> 01:41:29,720 Speaker 2: whole bet is just based on So you think that 2242 01:41:31,240 --> 01:41:33,280 Speaker 2: is from BET? I want to make sure I credit 2243 01:41:33,360 --> 01:41:35,639 Speaker 2: him bet online dot AG. 2244 01:41:36,200 --> 01:41:37,000 Speaker 4: Yes, that's correct. 2245 01:41:37,240 --> 01:41:39,920 Speaker 2: What's the R for? I do not know. That's some 2246 01:41:40,200 --> 01:41:42,000 Speaker 2: country somewhere that a. 2247 01:41:42,000 --> 01:41:45,200 Speaker 3: Few teams have situations clouded by who exactly will be 2248 01:41:45,280 --> 01:41:48,040 Speaker 3: the start of those teams are Denver, Las Vegas, Minnesota, 2249 01:41:48,160 --> 01:41:49,320 Speaker 3: New England and Pittsburgh. 2250 01:41:50,600 --> 01:41:52,640 Speaker 4: All right, used to be a big sponsor over at 2251 01:41:52,680 --> 01:41:54,479 Speaker 4: Clinnis Denver. 2252 01:41:54,600 --> 01:41:56,599 Speaker 5: Do you really think that's going to be a competition. 2253 01:41:57,000 --> 01:41:59,720 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, they don't have a quarterback? Yeah? Who who 2254 01:41:59,840 --> 01:42:00,639 Speaker 2: is be anybody? 2255 01:42:01,160 --> 01:42:03,080 Speaker 3: I mean it could be the new guy did it 2256 01:42:03,120 --> 01:42:07,720 Speaker 3: could be Stitty b Nicks, bon Nicks Wilson. I think 2257 01:42:07,760 --> 01:42:09,320 Speaker 3: it could be any I think it could be any 2258 01:42:09,320 --> 01:42:09,760 Speaker 3: of those three. 2259 01:42:10,920 --> 01:42:11,840 Speaker 4: He's like thirty. 2260 01:42:14,320 --> 01:42:17,560 Speaker 2: Pat Nagawam like that. He is the only way to 2261 01:42:17,720 --> 01:42:21,800 Speaker 2: make slash eat hot dogs, grill or nothing. Brand is 2262 01:42:21,920 --> 01:42:25,439 Speaker 2: Nathan's all beef. I do not like Nathan's really Nathan's. 2263 01:42:26,680 --> 01:42:28,559 Speaker 2: Nathan's like the regular like. 2264 01:42:30,200 --> 01:42:32,799 Speaker 4: They're good to Yeah, we had Pearl. 2265 01:42:34,160 --> 01:42:37,840 Speaker 2: Pearl pretty good. It'll never hears Pearl pretty good. I 2266 01:42:38,000 --> 01:42:42,120 Speaker 2: used to know that family like Kim is good, like 2267 01:42:42,240 --> 01:42:44,759 Speaker 2: Bullpark Franks really really good. 2268 01:42:46,120 --> 01:42:46,360 Speaker 5: Nathan. 2269 01:42:47,200 --> 01:42:49,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, but Nathan's. I love Nathan's. 2270 01:42:49,280 --> 01:42:51,799 Speaker 7: You don't like Nathan's like, yeah, I don't know to crispy, 2271 01:42:52,000 --> 01:42:54,400 Speaker 7: like a good crack like the skin. 2272 01:42:54,520 --> 01:42:59,120 Speaker 2: No, you want to know the role is New Style 2273 01:42:59,280 --> 01:43:02,080 Speaker 2: split top Now, dude, people know what New England outside 2274 01:43:02,080 --> 01:43:05,439 Speaker 2: of New England. We mean by New England hot dog roll. 2275 01:43:06,600 --> 01:43:10,439 Speaker 2: So a regular hot dog roll is has is brown 2276 01:43:10,520 --> 01:43:12,559 Speaker 2: on the outside, right, it's got crushed. But a New 2277 01:43:12,600 --> 01:43:14,840 Speaker 2: England one is white on the outside, like they take 2278 01:43:14,880 --> 01:43:17,160 Speaker 2: the crust off. Oh that's only a New England that. Yeah, 2279 01:43:17,160 --> 01:43:18,920 Speaker 2: it's a New England cut. I did not know that. 2280 01:43:19,000 --> 01:43:20,880 Speaker 3: I do like those better. Yeah, I don't like the 2281 01:43:20,920 --> 01:43:24,880 Speaker 3: ones that I have. The brown yeah, yeah, like the 2282 01:43:24,960 --> 01:43:26,200 Speaker 3: heel of bread. 2283 01:43:26,240 --> 01:43:26,680 Speaker 2: I don't like that. 2284 01:43:27,960 --> 01:43:31,479 Speaker 7: The roles in Germany were awesome, remember the hot dog 2285 01:43:31,600 --> 01:43:34,400 Speaker 7: role where it was like a real baked role. 2286 01:43:34,560 --> 01:43:36,120 Speaker 2: See, I don't like that. Did I have a hot 2287 01:43:36,200 --> 01:43:37,559 Speaker 2: too much bread? Too much bread? 2288 01:43:38,360 --> 01:43:40,599 Speaker 7: You were doing your TV show and we were wandering 2289 01:43:40,640 --> 01:43:41,960 Speaker 7: and you guys dish dog. 2290 01:43:42,040 --> 01:43:45,680 Speaker 2: Whether it's a hamburger or the bread, the bread is 2291 01:43:45,800 --> 01:43:46,679 Speaker 2: just to hold it together. 2292 01:43:46,840 --> 01:43:49,040 Speaker 4: All I know is that Teas and I like found 2293 01:43:49,040 --> 01:43:51,840 Speaker 4: a spot on the last day before the game to 2294 01:43:51,920 --> 01:43:56,920 Speaker 4: get some street meat. My goodness was good. I forget 2295 01:43:56,960 --> 01:43:58,120 Speaker 4: what they called it, but. 2296 01:44:00,120 --> 01:44:03,400 Speaker 2: I didn't. It wasn't bad. It was like it was 2297 01:44:03,400 --> 01:44:05,960 Speaker 2: like it's like a big flattened piece of fried chicken. 2298 01:44:06,040 --> 01:44:08,240 Speaker 2: I mean it was like chicken. Couple of schnitzel. 2299 01:44:08,280 --> 01:44:11,120 Speaker 7: It sounds like something special, but it's like, what did 2300 01:44:11,160 --> 01:44:11,720 Speaker 7: you think it was? 2301 01:44:11,800 --> 01:44:14,080 Speaker 2: I don't know not It's just a giant fried chicken, 2302 01:44:15,200 --> 01:44:15,840 Speaker 2: so I knew what it was. 2303 01:44:16,880 --> 01:44:23,040 Speaker 3: It came as an advertised yeah juice. 2304 01:44:24,040 --> 01:44:27,360 Speaker 2: The toppings for the hot dog, according to Patrick, is 2305 01:44:27,840 --> 01:44:32,439 Speaker 2: Weber's champagne, dill, mustard, wickles, sweet relish and red onions 2306 01:44:32,680 --> 01:44:35,559 Speaker 2: or brown mustard and sour crat. I go with brown mustard, 2307 01:44:35,640 --> 01:44:36,559 Speaker 2: round mustard and salad. 2308 01:44:37,160 --> 01:44:41,080 Speaker 3: You big on and like that, like to that. It 2309 01:44:41,160 --> 01:44:43,920 Speaker 3: has to be very specific that brand, this style. 2310 01:44:45,040 --> 01:44:48,880 Speaker 2: But Golden's brown, golden brown mustard, mustard and sour krowd. 2311 01:44:48,920 --> 01:44:51,439 Speaker 2: I like mustard and onions, very basic. 2312 01:44:51,640 --> 01:44:53,000 Speaker 5: Ketchum and mustard, ketch them and. 2313 01:44:53,040 --> 01:44:55,360 Speaker 2: Mustard on the hot dogs. People will say, catch, it's 2314 01:44:55,400 --> 01:44:58,200 Speaker 2: not bad. Ketch him on the hot dog? Pretty good. 2315 01:44:58,760 --> 01:45:00,720 Speaker 2: A lot of people say t J every every hot 2316 01:45:00,800 --> 01:45:03,479 Speaker 2: dog three year old ketch I go, when are you 2317 01:45:03,520 --> 01:45:05,840 Speaker 2: gonna him? Every time it's what are you gonna grow 2318 01:45:05,880 --> 01:45:06,160 Speaker 2: out of that? 2319 01:45:06,520 --> 01:45:08,600 Speaker 3: And I feel like Fred when I do it, like 2320 01:45:08,920 --> 01:45:09,960 Speaker 3: what are you gonna grow out of that? 2321 01:45:11,000 --> 01:45:12,839 Speaker 5: What's on your hamburger? 2322 01:45:13,360 --> 01:45:18,120 Speaker 2: Cheese? And then it depends like if it's if there's 2323 01:45:18,160 --> 01:45:20,640 Speaker 2: lettuce in mayo on it and in tomato, then I 2324 01:45:20,720 --> 01:45:25,200 Speaker 2: have mayo. But if there's not, maybe I'll put some ketchup. 2325 01:45:24,880 --> 01:45:28,000 Speaker 3: On it, mustard ketchup on barbecue. But sometimes I love 2326 01:45:28,080 --> 01:45:28,760 Speaker 3: barbecue sauce. 2327 01:45:29,080 --> 01:45:31,719 Speaker 2: I like to taste the hamburger and the cheese without 2328 01:45:31,880 --> 01:45:34,200 Speaker 2: a condiment first, just to see if they need a condiment, 2329 01:45:34,360 --> 01:45:36,439 Speaker 2: because sometimes the hamburger is so good you don't want 2330 01:45:36,439 --> 01:45:37,599 Speaker 2: to ruin it with condiments. 2331 01:45:38,080 --> 01:45:41,320 Speaker 5: That's true. There's something about a grilled there's something about 2332 01:45:41,320 --> 01:45:43,160 Speaker 5: a grilled hamburger cheeseburger. 2333 01:45:43,240 --> 01:45:49,479 Speaker 2: It just throw a couple of Thursday. Hey, tomorrow's the day, right, Wait, 2334 01:45:49,640 --> 01:45:55,439 Speaker 2: Thursday Thursday? It Well, I can't have a hamburger tonight 2335 01:45:55,439 --> 01:45:57,599 Speaker 2: and then have another one. And there's too many hamburgers. 2336 01:45:58,640 --> 01:46:01,160 Speaker 2: Craig and Charlotte. I wonder if that's the Craig that 2337 01:46:01,240 --> 01:46:03,160 Speaker 2: we know. We haven't seen him in a long time. 2338 01:46:03,680 --> 01:46:06,439 Speaker 2: Remember Craig Charlie figures in South Carolina? Oh? Is he 2339 01:46:06,520 --> 01:46:10,280 Speaker 2: in South Carolina? Pauley's Island? Right? Okay, I don't want 2340 01:46:10,280 --> 01:46:12,560 Speaker 2: to criticize too much before we see the product in 2341 01:46:12,600 --> 01:46:16,599 Speaker 2: the field. But something rattling around my mind. Wolf Slash 2342 01:46:16,680 --> 01:46:19,599 Speaker 2: Mayo have emphasized the importance of getting the right people 2343 01:46:19,640 --> 01:46:22,360 Speaker 2: in the building, but they had a little trouble getting 2344 01:46:22,360 --> 01:46:25,960 Speaker 2: their first choice in a few things reported top o 2345 01:46:26,080 --> 01:46:29,080 Speaker 2: c option Nick Kaylee wanted too much money. Feels like 2346 01:46:29,120 --> 01:46:31,839 Speaker 2: they missed out on a number of top assistant coach targets, 2347 01:46:32,240 --> 01:46:35,320 Speaker 2: missed out on Calvin Ridley, unable to trade back into 2348 01:46:35,360 --> 01:46:38,760 Speaker 2: the first for presumable wide receiver target. Maybe some of 2349 01:46:38,840 --> 01:46:41,599 Speaker 2: this is speculation, and I'm sure this happens every year, 2350 01:46:42,000 --> 01:46:45,080 Speaker 2: but we likely didn't hear about it under Belichick. But 2351 01:46:45,200 --> 01:46:47,960 Speaker 2: do you have any concern about Wolf and Mayo's ability 2352 01:46:48,040 --> 01:46:51,280 Speaker 2: to execute on their vision? Well, I think they needed 2353 01:46:51,360 --> 01:46:52,720 Speaker 2: so many things not yet. 2354 01:46:52,840 --> 01:46:55,680 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I just I like that they were aggressive, 2355 01:46:56,439 --> 01:46:57,720 Speaker 7: you know, but I think the team's going to have 2356 01:46:57,760 --> 01:46:58,960 Speaker 7: to win and they're going to have to show that 2357 01:46:59,040 --> 01:47:01,599 Speaker 7: they're building something here before they can, you know, get 2358 01:47:01,640 --> 01:47:03,200 Speaker 7: over those humps. I mean, I don't know about the 2359 01:47:03,240 --> 01:47:05,120 Speaker 7: trade and backup stuff. I do like the point though 2360 01:47:05,160 --> 01:47:07,519 Speaker 7: about you kind of know everything that's going on now, 2361 01:47:07,680 --> 01:47:09,760 Speaker 7: so you know, I think there are probably a lot 2362 01:47:09,800 --> 01:47:11,679 Speaker 7: of that kind of stuff that we weren't even aware 2363 01:47:11,720 --> 01:47:13,080 Speaker 7: with with the pre previous regime. 2364 01:47:13,160 --> 01:47:15,639 Speaker 2: But I think it just it comes back to draft. 2365 01:47:15,720 --> 01:47:18,880 Speaker 7: Well, win some games, start to build something, people see 2366 01:47:18,920 --> 01:47:21,160 Speaker 7: what's going on here, You're gonna start to attract. 2367 01:47:21,040 --> 01:47:21,920 Speaker 2: Out of all those things. 2368 01:47:21,960 --> 01:47:24,200 Speaker 3: The only thing I could see you knowing about is 2369 01:47:24,200 --> 01:47:25,960 Speaker 3: if they were trying to trade back into the first 2370 01:47:26,320 --> 01:47:29,280 Speaker 3: that tended to trickle out those that kind of stuff. 2371 01:47:29,360 --> 01:47:34,360 Speaker 3: But if they were like interviewing three offensive coordinator candidates 2372 01:47:34,840 --> 01:47:36,439 Speaker 3: and they didn't get the one they wanted, I don't 2373 01:47:36,439 --> 01:47:38,640 Speaker 3: think we'd know that if Bill was was. 2374 01:47:38,680 --> 01:47:41,599 Speaker 7: Nick Hilly the better option than Alex van Pelt young. 2375 01:47:41,840 --> 01:47:44,920 Speaker 3: They thought he was, Like it really doesn't matter, yes 2376 01:47:45,040 --> 01:47:47,080 Speaker 3: or no, it matters, that's what they wanted. 2377 01:47:47,600 --> 01:47:49,559 Speaker 5: Yeah, I will say I do like the a VP 2378 01:47:49,760 --> 01:47:53,200 Speaker 5: option in regards to molding Drake Men because he's worked 2379 01:47:53,240 --> 01:47:55,720 Speaker 5: with so many other quarterbacks and so he has that experience. 2380 01:47:55,840 --> 01:47:57,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's I think That's what I was kind of 2381 01:47:57,880 --> 01:47:58,280 Speaker 2: getting at. 2382 01:47:58,520 --> 01:48:00,599 Speaker 7: Was you know, I mean, I think there's that argument 2383 01:48:00,800 --> 01:48:02,880 Speaker 7: should certainly be made and Nick Keley it's a little 2384 01:48:02,880 --> 01:48:04,280 Speaker 7: bit like he's never done this. 2385 01:48:04,720 --> 01:48:06,559 Speaker 3: I think you can make a strong argument that Nick 2386 01:48:06,600 --> 01:48:09,080 Speaker 3: Keley has never done it. So you want a young 2387 01:48:09,120 --> 01:48:10,760 Speaker 3: guy who's never done it or an old guy who's 2388 01:48:10,800 --> 01:48:14,000 Speaker 3: never done it right. I think I would probably side 2389 01:48:14,040 --> 01:48:15,320 Speaker 3: with the experience. 2390 01:48:15,280 --> 01:48:18,040 Speaker 2: And who played the position in the pro level. True, 2391 01:48:19,200 --> 01:48:23,160 Speaker 2: Brad and Amanda claim to be ASSI lip readers. Oh nice, 2392 01:48:23,439 --> 01:48:25,800 Speaker 2: and they say, we've been watching you all live on 2393 01:48:26,040 --> 01:48:28,439 Speaker 2: mute in the background the whole show. There are two 2394 01:48:28,520 --> 01:48:31,960 Speaker 2: things we can't figure out. One, your drink bottle sizes 2395 01:48:32,120 --> 01:48:35,559 Speaker 2: enough with the imperial system already. What does that mean? 2396 01:48:35,680 --> 01:48:36,439 Speaker 2: They're not leaders? 2397 01:48:36,479 --> 01:48:41,800 Speaker 7: I don't know, it's not These are fluid ouncers, three 2398 01:48:41,920 --> 01:48:43,280 Speaker 7: hundred and fifty five milli leaders. 2399 01:48:43,400 --> 01:48:45,920 Speaker 2: And then to Paul, what was Fred moving the goalposts? 2400 01:48:45,920 --> 01:48:49,280 Speaker 2: About this time we saw the hand motion of them moving. 2401 01:48:49,479 --> 01:48:50,960 Speaker 2: I was actually moving the goalpost. 2402 01:48:51,000 --> 01:48:53,360 Speaker 3: This time Fred was pointing out that I was moving 2403 01:48:53,400 --> 01:48:58,200 Speaker 3: the goal post. I mistakenly said that Remindrie Stevenson's contract 2404 01:48:58,840 --> 01:49:01,719 Speaker 3: was in the neighborhood of Christian McCaffrey, when in fact 2405 01:49:01,800 --> 01:49:05,599 Speaker 3: I really meant he's in the top six of running backs, 2406 01:49:05,760 --> 01:49:08,479 Speaker 3: so he's in the neighborhood of the highest paid running backs, 2407 01:49:08,479 --> 01:49:09,960 Speaker 3: but not specifically McCaffrey. 2408 01:49:10,040 --> 01:49:12,200 Speaker 2: So I'm the one that moved the goal keeping it 2409 01:49:12,240 --> 01:49:15,080 Speaker 2: on mute. Please read and challenge you to answer creatively. 2410 01:49:15,640 --> 01:49:17,840 Speaker 2: So I don't know, like, how do we answer that? Creator? 2411 01:49:17,880 --> 01:49:19,639 Speaker 3: So I moved the goal post again, and I want 2412 01:49:19,680 --> 01:49:20,560 Speaker 3: to do this creatively? 2413 01:49:21,000 --> 01:49:24,880 Speaker 2: Where are they from the Australia Australia? So it's like this, 2414 01:49:25,439 --> 01:49:30,599 Speaker 2: all right, yeah, did we do that? I don't think 2415 01:49:30,640 --> 01:49:36,679 Speaker 2: so he got you got a bit well. I don't 2416 01:49:36,680 --> 01:49:40,280 Speaker 2: know if I agree with this. Anthony says Evan. Try 2417 01:49:40,360 --> 01:49:44,320 Speaker 2: some melon or candle wrapped in proscudo. It's awesome, is it. 2418 01:49:45,040 --> 01:49:46,680 Speaker 4: I'm just going to tell you right now. I'm not 2419 01:49:46,720 --> 01:49:47,320 Speaker 4: going to try. 2420 01:49:50,760 --> 01:49:51,200 Speaker 9: It. I just. 2421 01:49:53,640 --> 01:49:56,040 Speaker 2: May be enough of a cover for the fruit taste 2422 01:49:56,080 --> 01:49:59,560 Speaker 2: to make it palatable. In my opinion, it's fantastic. So 2423 01:49:59,600 --> 01:50:00,880 Speaker 2: if you killing the taste, and. 2424 01:50:00,880 --> 01:50:03,800 Speaker 6: Why even you're not, you're just making juicy meat. 2425 01:50:04,320 --> 01:50:05,639 Speaker 2: Please keep I'm sorry. 2426 01:50:05,720 --> 01:50:08,479 Speaker 6: What a melon ball with persudo wrapped around it? You 2427 01:50:08,600 --> 01:50:10,439 Speaker 6: take a bite out of that, you're just eating juicy meat. 2428 01:50:12,720 --> 01:50:15,200 Speaker 2: He actually repeated it that in the street meat. I 2429 01:50:15,240 --> 01:50:18,400 Speaker 2: think we're going into places where you know anyway, keep 2430 01:50:18,479 --> 01:50:22,040 Speaker 2: trade or kill. Fourth of July activity trade kill Fourth 2431 01:50:22,080 --> 01:50:27,160 Speaker 2: of July activities, fireworks kill water activities and drinking? Oh, 2432 01:50:28,400 --> 01:50:35,599 Speaker 2: drinking keep water activities? What is it? Kill? Fireworks? Trade? Oh? 2433 01:50:35,720 --> 01:50:36,599 Speaker 2: I would. I would. 2434 01:50:36,600 --> 01:50:39,439 Speaker 3: I guess I would trade the water activities. Okay, I 2435 01:50:39,560 --> 01:50:41,639 Speaker 3: have no use for I am not a fireworks guy. 2436 01:50:42,040 --> 01:50:45,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not anymore either. I've grown up. I've seen it. 2437 01:50:46,240 --> 01:50:49,439 Speaker 4: Tell me you like advance in like fireworks technology, Like 2438 01:50:49,479 --> 01:50:51,160 Speaker 4: I feel like I. 2439 01:50:51,280 --> 01:50:53,880 Speaker 2: Saw something about that at some point in my life. 2440 01:50:54,000 --> 01:50:56,360 Speaker 4: I don't even know. I can't pinpoint. They started being 2441 01:50:56,400 --> 01:50:58,840 Speaker 4: able to make like shapes like things like that, which 2442 01:50:58,920 --> 01:51:01,840 Speaker 4: were cool, but now we have been evolved any further 2443 01:51:02,000 --> 01:51:02,400 Speaker 4: from there. 2444 01:51:02,680 --> 01:51:05,360 Speaker 3: So it's like I've seen this brillion I did something. 2445 01:51:05,800 --> 01:51:08,360 Speaker 3: One of the communities in our area did something with 2446 01:51:08,520 --> 01:51:13,599 Speaker 3: like AI. Yeah, generated and supposedly, you know, they lost 2447 01:51:13,680 --> 01:51:15,960 Speaker 3: me at it's you know, better for the environment, no sense, 2448 01:51:16,880 --> 01:51:19,719 Speaker 3: but I guess it was a decent show. 2449 01:51:19,760 --> 01:51:22,400 Speaker 2: But like I'm I'm with I'm with you guys, I've 2450 01:51:22,439 --> 01:51:26,240 Speaker 2: seen it all. I'm not I think. Yeah, what do 2451 01:51:26,320 --> 01:51:29,080 Speaker 2: you like to say, Disney fireworks, I'm not here for that. 2452 01:51:29,280 --> 01:51:30,920 Speaker 2: I'm not here here for that. 2453 01:51:31,080 --> 01:51:33,639 Speaker 6: Disneyworks said, Disney fireworks, you can't beat them, no matter 2454 01:51:33,720 --> 01:51:34,080 Speaker 6: what age. 2455 01:51:34,840 --> 01:51:37,200 Speaker 2: I've been in that park on the fourth of July. Yeah, 2456 01:51:37,720 --> 01:51:41,240 Speaker 2: they happen every night. It's great. The Elethetic. You kind 2457 01:51:41,280 --> 01:51:44,479 Speaker 2: of end the night with the fireworks. It's great for kids, 2458 01:51:44,640 --> 01:51:48,439 Speaker 2: Absolutely great for kids. Now here's a Disney tip, your tip. 2459 01:51:48,640 --> 01:51:51,439 Speaker 2: If you're in the Magic Kingdom and when they're doing 2460 01:51:51,479 --> 01:51:54,280 Speaker 2: the fireworks, that's when you go and do your rides 2461 01:51:54,840 --> 01:51:57,360 Speaker 2: because everyone's gathered, and that's when you go do your 2462 01:51:57,479 --> 01:52:05,800 Speaker 2: rides like that. Probably chess. I'm here today to make this. 2463 01:52:05,880 --> 01:52:09,400 Speaker 2: The only thing missing on Splash Mountain was a sniff uh. 2464 01:52:10,720 --> 01:52:14,000 Speaker 2: Anthony also says you gotta see if Hardy can hook 2465 01:52:14,040 --> 01:52:16,920 Speaker 2: you up with some Google Vienna's for the fourth the 2466 01:52:17,000 --> 01:52:19,479 Speaker 2: best hot dog in the world. What does Hardy get. 2467 01:52:21,120 --> 01:52:22,800 Speaker 7: He got the hook of Tari doesn't like us any 2468 01:52:22,880 --> 01:52:25,639 Speaker 7: Hey man, you want some hot dogs, He's not got 2469 01:52:25,640 --> 01:52:26,080 Speaker 7: what you need. 2470 01:52:26,479 --> 01:52:31,240 Speaker 6: You gotta have Rhode Island hot dogs called Soggy's. Yeah, 2471 01:52:31,240 --> 01:52:33,280 Speaker 6: they're like the hot dogs with a little crunch to. 2472 01:52:33,320 --> 01:52:35,639 Speaker 2: Them, bit like that juicy meat you were talking. I'm 2473 01:52:35,640 --> 01:52:37,240 Speaker 2: gonna have to talk to someone in the Mayor's office 2474 01:52:37,240 --> 01:52:40,920 Speaker 2: about that. I don't like that at all, Soggy's. Let's see, 2475 01:52:41,000 --> 01:52:43,040 Speaker 2: let me see what you did there. We'll finish up 2476 01:52:43,080 --> 01:52:49,320 Speaker 2: with Barton Poland, who has and evan criticism we can't. 2477 01:52:49,600 --> 01:52:51,599 Speaker 2: We like to end every show with someone. The guy 2478 01:52:51,640 --> 01:52:53,720 Speaker 2: from Poland's always going to you, Evan. It's just the 2479 01:52:53,760 --> 01:52:55,040 Speaker 2: same guy. But yeah, he like. 2480 01:52:55,160 --> 01:52:57,600 Speaker 4: Listens and reads religiously. I appreciate it. 2481 01:52:57,920 --> 01:53:00,120 Speaker 2: He says. I gotta I gotta say. Evan had one 2482 01:53:00,160 --> 01:53:02,720 Speaker 2: of the worst sports takes over the weekend. Oh oh, 2483 01:53:03,120 --> 01:53:05,960 Speaker 2: the moment you implemented replay into sports. You have to 2484 01:53:06,080 --> 01:53:09,520 Speaker 2: agree with the calls being called right down to a millimeter. 2485 01:53:10,200 --> 01:53:14,639 Speaker 2: Offside in football. Soccer is offside even by a toenail 2486 01:53:14,760 --> 01:53:18,040 Speaker 2: case closed, same with a touchdown in American football. You 2487 01:53:18,160 --> 01:53:22,680 Speaker 2: cannot bring subjective judgment to an objective decision. If you 2488 01:53:22,800 --> 01:53:25,920 Speaker 2: have var instant replay, you have to break it down 2489 01:53:26,000 --> 01:53:28,439 Speaker 2: to millimeters if you like, if you like it or not. 2490 01:53:28,880 --> 01:53:31,320 Speaker 2: And please stop with the bs that the call has 2491 01:53:31,400 --> 01:53:34,080 Speaker 2: to be obvious. Okay, so tell me when the call 2492 01:53:34,200 --> 01:53:38,320 Speaker 2: becomes obvious enough to overturn. People love to preach beautiful 2493 01:53:38,360 --> 01:53:41,200 Speaker 2: slogans about the fairness of the game, et cetera. But 2494 01:53:41,320 --> 01:53:43,599 Speaker 2: when you ask them how they would change the rules, 2495 01:53:43,720 --> 01:53:44,880 Speaker 2: they go awfully quiet. 2496 01:53:44,960 --> 01:53:46,960 Speaker 4: Okay, so I have a whole thing about this that's 2497 01:53:46,960 --> 01:53:49,479 Speaker 4: going to take more than three minutes. But The biggest 2498 01:53:49,520 --> 01:53:51,800 Speaker 4: thing here is that I have the rules that are 2499 01:53:51,880 --> 01:53:54,280 Speaker 4: in place, Like he's misunderstanding my point. The rules that 2500 01:53:54,360 --> 01:53:55,960 Speaker 4: are in place, with the rules like now you have 2501 01:53:56,040 --> 01:53:58,400 Speaker 4: to follow the rules, like they have the uh you know, 2502 01:53:58,479 --> 01:54:01,679 Speaker 4: assisted off sides and over euros, and like the rule 2503 01:54:01,800 --> 01:54:03,360 Speaker 4: is is that that's what you go by. So I'm 2504 01:54:03,400 --> 01:54:06,080 Speaker 4: not saying don't follow the letter of the rule. I'm 2505 01:54:06,160 --> 01:54:08,120 Speaker 4: just telling you that I think it has ruined the 2506 01:54:08,240 --> 01:54:13,200 Speaker 4: sport because now I've watched a ton of international soccer 2507 01:54:13,240 --> 01:54:16,200 Speaker 4: over the last couple of weeks, and I cannot tell 2508 01:54:16,200 --> 01:54:19,320 Speaker 4: you how many goals I have seen come back because 2509 01:54:19,479 --> 01:54:24,000 Speaker 4: VAR ten minutes later has decided that it's offside, right, Okay. 2510 01:54:24,240 --> 01:54:26,439 Speaker 4: But my point is is that there was a call 2511 01:54:26,520 --> 01:54:28,240 Speaker 4: in the Germany. I forget who they were playing, but 2512 01:54:28,320 --> 01:54:32,400 Speaker 4: is Germany's game, And when I tell you that it 2513 01:54:32,520 --> 01:54:36,960 Speaker 4: was a toenail, it was literally offside by a toenail, okay, 2514 01:54:37,160 --> 01:54:40,640 Speaker 4: And they took back a goal because the VAR technology 2515 01:54:40,720 --> 01:54:44,160 Speaker 4: said that he was offside. And I just feel like 2516 01:54:44,240 --> 01:54:47,080 Speaker 4: it ruins like the sport because it's just like you 2517 01:54:47,200 --> 01:54:49,800 Speaker 4: celebrate a goal, you think you have a goal. Obviously, 2518 01:54:49,880 --> 01:54:53,240 Speaker 4: goals are rare in soccer, and then they bring it 2519 01:54:53,360 --> 01:54:56,280 Speaker 4: back because the guy the technology is telling you that 2520 01:54:56,320 --> 01:55:00,520 Speaker 4: he's offside by a millimeter, and it's like, not only 2521 01:55:00,600 --> 01:55:03,520 Speaker 4: did it ruin the moment of the game, I know, 2522 01:55:03,720 --> 01:55:06,960 Speaker 4: but like you're offside. But my point is is that 2523 01:55:07,040 --> 01:55:09,080 Speaker 4: if the naked eye like my so, what would be 2524 01:55:09,160 --> 01:55:11,880 Speaker 4: my answer? Right? Everybody says is, well, what would you 2525 01:55:11,920 --> 01:55:14,280 Speaker 4: be your answer? The answer is is that you have 2526 01:55:14,360 --> 01:55:17,520 Speaker 4: a replay official like the NFL does, like most sports do. 2527 01:55:17,920 --> 01:55:21,680 Speaker 4: If it's not obvious by the naked eye that he's offside. 2528 01:55:21,360 --> 01:55:23,000 Speaker 2: There should be a time limit. Then you go with 2529 01:55:23,080 --> 01:55:24,440 Speaker 2: the call in the sea, there should be a time 2530 01:55:24,520 --> 01:55:27,400 Speaker 2: limit by which they make a decision. I go with that. 2531 01:55:27,680 --> 01:55:29,879 Speaker 3: My one thing that I would say about the emailer 2532 01:55:30,280 --> 01:55:32,440 Speaker 3: is and I don't know. I'm I'm not going to 2533 01:55:32,680 --> 01:55:35,680 Speaker 3: relate this to European soccer because I don't know the answer. 2534 01:55:35,760 --> 01:55:40,360 Speaker 3: But in the US, the leagues that have replay, the 2535 01:55:40,440 --> 01:55:43,640 Speaker 3: word obvious is part of the rule. Yes, it's supposed 2536 01:55:43,680 --> 01:55:48,320 Speaker 3: to be an obvious error, right, clear incontrovertible evidence. You know, 2537 01:55:48,480 --> 01:55:51,320 Speaker 3: like anybody watching in a bar would all come to 2538 01:55:51,400 --> 01:55:56,280 Speaker 3: the same conclusion. It's not adjudicated like that. People just like, 2539 01:55:56,440 --> 01:55:59,600 Speaker 3: like David's point, it's like a millimeter off side when 2540 01:55:59,640 --> 01:56:01,680 Speaker 3: you have to go back and forth and back. If 2541 01:56:01,720 --> 01:56:04,480 Speaker 3: you have to go back and sides are ridiculous, then 2542 01:56:04,560 --> 01:56:07,120 Speaker 3: go with the call. It's supposed to be clear and obvious. 2543 01:56:07,240 --> 01:56:09,760 Speaker 2: But think but the people who say get rid of replay, 2544 01:56:10,000 --> 01:56:12,680 Speaker 2: that's just as nuts because did you see the play 2545 01:56:12,720 --> 01:56:15,200 Speaker 2: in baseball happened like a couple of weeks ago where 2546 01:56:16,080 --> 01:56:19,360 Speaker 2: guy sliding into second and his helmet fell off and 2547 01:56:19,520 --> 01:56:22,400 Speaker 2: the guy tagged the helmet. So the call on the 2548 01:56:22,480 --> 01:56:25,000 Speaker 2: field was he was out, But they looked at the 2549 01:56:25,080 --> 01:56:28,240 Speaker 2: replay and his helmet was not was off and he 2550 01:56:28,400 --> 01:56:31,200 Speaker 2: tagged the helmet. He was clearly safe. So it was 2551 01:56:31,240 --> 01:56:35,720 Speaker 2: pretty obvious. It was obvious that wouldn't have been Like but. 2552 01:56:35,720 --> 01:56:38,240 Speaker 3: I'm saying if they did it like that, I don't 2553 01:56:38,240 --> 01:56:40,840 Speaker 3: think people would keep playing degree. Yeah, but when they're 2554 01:56:40,880 --> 01:56:42,960 Speaker 3: breaking down frame by frame. 2555 01:56:42,920 --> 01:56:45,680 Speaker 4: It's so blurry you can't even see because they've zoomed 2556 01:56:45,720 --> 01:56:48,400 Speaker 4: in a hundred times into the frame and you're looking 2557 01:56:48,480 --> 01:56:50,440 Speaker 4: at it and you're like, you think the puck isn't 2558 01:56:50,440 --> 01:56:50,640 Speaker 4: in this. 2559 01:56:51,000 --> 01:56:53,840 Speaker 2: I don't know if there was another play. I'll watch 2560 01:56:53,880 --> 01:56:56,600 Speaker 2: a lot of Red Sox. But I think Hamilton was, 2561 01:56:56,840 --> 01:56:59,280 Speaker 2: you know, scraping his toe to do a double play 2562 01:56:59,480 --> 01:57:01,840 Speaker 2: second bay, and like if you looked at the third 2563 01:57:01,920 --> 01:57:05,240 Speaker 2: ban at third base angle, it looked like his foot 2564 01:57:05,360 --> 01:57:08,000 Speaker 2: was off. If you looked at the other angle, it 2565 01:57:08,080 --> 01:57:10,600 Speaker 2: looked like he scraped it. Now, the call in the 2566 01:57:10,640 --> 01:57:13,000 Speaker 2: field was the guy was safe. You had to stick 2567 01:57:13,080 --> 01:57:15,520 Speaker 2: with safe. You have two angles that you couldn't tell. 2568 01:57:15,920 --> 01:57:17,400 Speaker 2: You got to go with the call in the field, 2569 01:57:17,600 --> 01:57:19,600 Speaker 2: you know. And they have a strict time limit I 2570 01:57:19,640 --> 01:57:21,520 Speaker 2: believe in baseball where they have to make and that's 2571 01:57:22,040 --> 01:57:24,160 Speaker 2: I'm all for that. Yeah, it just me too. 2572 01:57:24,320 --> 01:57:26,480 Speaker 4: My point isn't tune for the way the soccer rule 2573 01:57:26,520 --> 01:57:27,880 Speaker 4: is written. You have to do it the way it's 2574 01:57:27,880 --> 01:57:30,360 Speaker 4: written now. But my whole point is is just that 2575 01:57:30,600 --> 01:57:33,400 Speaker 4: I can I've seen half a dozen goals come back 2576 01:57:33,480 --> 01:57:37,040 Speaker 4: because of the VAAR technology, and they they deem it up, 2577 01:57:37,080 --> 01:57:39,480 Speaker 4: they deem it off side, and it just in that 2578 01:57:39,680 --> 01:57:42,560 Speaker 4: sport where you wait for a goal and you could 2579 01:57:42,560 --> 01:57:44,840 Speaker 4: go to the whole freaking game without them scoring, and 2580 01:57:44,880 --> 01:57:46,560 Speaker 4: then they finally put one in the back of the 2581 01:57:46,680 --> 01:57:49,840 Speaker 4: net and then a guy's toenail is offside. It not 2582 01:57:50,000 --> 01:57:52,200 Speaker 4: only did it ruin the moment in the game. But 2583 01:57:52,680 --> 01:57:55,640 Speaker 4: Germany went through in a game that they probably should 2584 01:57:55,640 --> 01:57:56,000 Speaker 4: have lost. 2585 01:57:56,120 --> 01:57:58,240 Speaker 2: Well, England had one of those. They ended up winning 2586 01:57:58,280 --> 01:58:01,480 Speaker 2: the game, but they were they were behind, won nothing, 2587 01:58:01,560 --> 01:58:03,560 Speaker 2: and they had the goal and it was just the 2588 01:58:03,680 --> 01:58:07,720 Speaker 2: tip of his cleat was off side. Was that scored twice? Yeah? 2589 01:58:07,760 --> 01:58:08,440 Speaker 2: They scored twice? 2590 01:58:08,800 --> 01:58:11,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean and then last night, you 2591 01:58:11,240 --> 01:58:13,760 Speaker 3: know the USA Soccer contributions to so it. 2592 01:58:13,880 --> 01:58:15,080 Speaker 2: Just it's a mess. 2593 01:58:15,200 --> 01:58:18,040 Speaker 4: The replay is a mess, and they. 2594 01:58:17,480 --> 01:58:20,440 Speaker 2: Just take soccer. But I think I love the var 2595 01:58:20,640 --> 01:58:22,080 Speaker 2: the way they do it, like they do it in 2596 01:58:22,160 --> 01:58:22,880 Speaker 2: three dimensional. 2597 01:58:23,040 --> 01:58:24,880 Speaker 4: So only something to the problem is is that only 2598 01:58:25,000 --> 01:58:30,040 Speaker 4: some UH high confederations have the budget for that. So 2599 01:58:30,200 --> 01:58:32,000 Speaker 4: they have that in Euros but they don't have that 2600 01:58:32,240 --> 01:58:35,680 Speaker 4: copa yeah and copa. So that's not why the US lost. 2601 01:58:35,720 --> 01:58:39,480 Speaker 2: But all right, that's going to be it for this 2602 01:58:39,720 --> 01:58:44,320 Speaker 2: edition of Soccer this week. No no show on Thursday. 2603 01:58:45,080 --> 01:58:47,920 Speaker 2: We hope on Tuesday we'll be back in our new studio. 2604 01:58:48,000 --> 01:58:49,880 Speaker 2: If everything goes right, we'll see you then. 2605 01:58:50,920 --> 01:58:54,720 Speaker 1: Thank you for downloading this podcast, Subscribe on Apple, google Play, 2606 01:58:54,800 --> 01:58:57,800 Speaker 1: and everywhere else you listen. 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