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Speaker 1: Welcome to the NFL Legends Podcast, an NFL podcast for

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Speaker 1: the players, by the players. Here is your host, fourteen

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Speaker 1: year NFL veteran and Hall of Famer Anius Williams. Hello

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Speaker 1: and welcome to the NFL Legends Podcast. I'm Tequillo Spikes

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Speaker 1: from the Behind the Mass podcast show, sitting in for

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Speaker 1: Nius Williams. During COVID nineteen, everyone has had to adapt

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Speaker 1: their routines and Father's Day, which is coming up, is

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Speaker 1: no different. Today we have with us David Johnson from

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Speaker 1: the Houston, Texas to talk about his family and how

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Speaker 1: he manages being an NFL player and being a dad

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Speaker 1: at this unique time. David, Welcome to the show, My brother, welcome,

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Speaker 1: what's up? Thanks for having me. Hey, it's it's it's

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Speaker 1: an honor. It's a pleasure to be able to have

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Speaker 1: you to come on here. Because at one point of time,

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Speaker 1: everybody has their lives and they have so many different

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Speaker 1: things to do. But we're going through this COVID nineteam

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Speaker 1: pandemic right now. How are you guys adjusting as a family,

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Speaker 1: understanding and knowing that typically throughout this time you would

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Speaker 1: be training at one of the facilities, you know, it's

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Speaker 1: been weird. We're adjusting as best as we can, but

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Speaker 1: no one was ready for this. We never was prepared

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Speaker 1: for this, so we're really just going on the fly

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Speaker 1: and figuring things out as we go day to day. Um.

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Speaker 1: The biggest thing I think is struggling with DJ um

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Speaker 1: not understanding fully. He's three years old, so he's not

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Speaker 1: understanding fully what's going on. And he wants to go

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Speaker 1: And he doesn't have the ability to do that. So

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Speaker 1: it's really UM being stressed that way the most. Probably, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you talked about DJ and also London. I know she

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Speaker 1: has a birthday coming up, but you know, when you

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Speaker 1: look at it, and typically your years have been mapped out,

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Speaker 1: your months have been mapped out. How do you see

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Speaker 1: your role now playing a part of your kids life

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Speaker 1: since you're at home more of the top. It's actually yes,

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Speaker 1: since I'm at home more, UM doing helping Megan out,

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Speaker 1: my wife a lot more of just taking care of

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Speaker 1: the kids, UM, feeding London, putting her down, helping DJ,

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Speaker 1: feeding him, playing with him a lot more, getting a

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Speaker 1: lot more free time to interact with those guys. And

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Speaker 1: now DJ is getting older, he's three, like I said,

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Speaker 1: and so now we're trying to teach him how to write,

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Speaker 1: There're a lot more to help out that way. Um,

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Speaker 1: not so busy, like you said, on a normal um

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Speaker 1: now I think it's really relieving Megan a lot um

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Speaker 1: and trying to balance two kids now. And now London's

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Speaker 1: and getting into everything and trying to you know, eat everything,

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Speaker 1: And so I think I can help my wife out

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Speaker 1: that way as well. Yeah, and I know football is

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Speaker 1: you do in order to prepare for the season. How

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Speaker 1: Throughout this time period. I remember when I wanted to

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Speaker 1: So I remember when I was training, I used to

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Speaker 1: DJ has been coming out outside. I basically feel like

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Speaker 1: when I was growing up, I didn't have a father figure.

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Speaker 1: I had an older brother, but I didn't have a

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Speaker 1: when he falls, he has an accident. Um, he can

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Speaker 1: I want to be the father to teach him you know,

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Speaker 1: I would say the biggest thing is being active. Especially

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Speaker 1: you you can't deny the fact that your other half,

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Speaker 1: she did a lot, but once I was done with football, um,

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