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Speaker 1: Hello Texans, Welcome to this show. What a big week

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Speaker 1: for your Texans as we continue to talk about the

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Speaker 1: most recent acquisition and a bunch of other things related

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Speaker 1: to the Texans in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: Mark vandermir and John.

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Speaker 1: Harris with you at It's Thursday and it's time for

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Speaker 1: the General John McClain, John, how's it going. Let's get

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Speaker 1: your reaction to Stefan Diggs. Digs in the building today.

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Speaker 1: What are you thinking?

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Speaker 3: I've done twelve shows beyond my regular shows and podcast

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Speaker 3: on Thursday, all about Stefan Diggs in the trade that

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Speaker 3: rock the NFL, even though it'd been rumored for a

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Speaker 3: couple of days, and I've read and talked to people

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Speaker 3: in Buffalo. You know, they were happy to get the deal.

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Speaker 3: They took it two and twenty five through in a

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Speaker 3: five and a six, which seems heavily tilted toward the Texans,

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Speaker 3: and the fact that they have now Stefan Diggs, who

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Speaker 3: I believe they'll get the very best out of him

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Speaker 3: on the field off the field, because he didn't become

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Speaker 3: an issue in Minnesota Buffalo till near the end, and

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Speaker 3: I think he'll be a great addition. Nico Collins, Tank Dale,

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Speaker 3: Dalton Schultz, Joe Mixon. I love what Nicko Sario's doing.

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Speaker 3: Build to win while your quarterback is on his rookie contract.

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Speaker 2: Jenner.

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Speaker 4: There's so much talk nationally about this particular move, and

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Speaker 4: obviously the kudos and the Plott's coming the way of

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Speaker 4: the Houston Texans. I don't want to say it does

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Speaker 4: that were you in some sense? I mean, you've seen

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Speaker 4: everything that the city has gone through in a football sense.

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Speaker 4: But to know where we were in twenty twenty to

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Speaker 4: even know where we were in twenty twenty two at

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Speaker 4: the beginning of twenty twenty three and where the Texans

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Speaker 4: are now, is it almost like overwhelming in some sense

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Speaker 4: to kind of think about it from that perspective that, oh,

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Speaker 4: my gosh, could this move put them over the top

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Speaker 4: in combination with all the other moves they've made.

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Speaker 3: First of all, this time last year, didn't have quarterback,

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Speaker 3: didn't have fast rusher, nobody had a clue what kind

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Speaker 3: of coach Dimiko would be in his first season, and

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Speaker 3: who knew about Nico Collins.

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Speaker 5: It had been hurt.

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Speaker 3: Every year he'd been in the league. And then they

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Speaker 3: had a great draft, good free agent period. One of

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Speaker 3: the things. I'm amazed a lot of people now are

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Speaker 3: putting the Texans up there is a contender for the

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Speaker 3: Super Bowl.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 3: My opinion is I've said all along, I think it'll

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Speaker 3: be twenty twenty five because the schedule is brutal, the

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Speaker 3: quarterbacks are brutal, and I think for a team that's

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Speaker 3: never gotten home field advantage, it's never been beyond the

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Speaker 3: second round. I want him to get beyond that before

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Speaker 3: I pick them. But I think they're a contender. I

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Speaker 3: think they should win the FC South again. Love to

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Speaker 3: see him get home filled advantage. But I noticed the

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Speaker 3: odds in Vegas. I saw him bet on wine dot

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Speaker 3: AG twenty two to one, now ten to one. DraftKings

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Speaker 3: went from plus twenty five hundred to seven at MGM

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Speaker 3: twenty five to one to fifteen to one. A lot

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Speaker 3: of teams are saying this is a team they can

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Speaker 3: beat Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid and the Kansas City Chiefs.

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Speaker 3: They are exciting. I can't wait for the draft. I

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Speaker 3: think what this means, of course, is they're not going

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Speaker 3: to be taking a receiver highing the draft, and they

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Speaker 3: can focus on defense, particularly the interior line and corner

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Speaker 3: and they still need another's safety. I think Caserrio and

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Speaker 3: Ryan's have done an outstanding job and they're getting universal

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Speaker 3: praise that they deserve.

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Speaker 2: It's just amazing.

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Speaker 1: We have a lot of areas to go to with

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Speaker 1: this development, but I want to start here because there

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Speaker 1: is a lot of talking about the Texans as a

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl contender. Great, we all know it's all about

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Speaker 1: week one right now. I hate to be that guy,

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Speaker 1: the one game at a time person.

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Speaker 2: Yea, but that's what it is general. I mean, you

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Speaker 1: People are act like, oh, you're in the playoffs already,

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Speaker 1: in the first game you play is going to be

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Speaker 2: No, it's not.

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Speaker 1: You've got to build this thing throughout the course of

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Speaker 1: the season and develop the proper chemistry. But they do

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Speaker 1: have what appears to be well, there's no question this

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Speaker 1: is the best bunch of skill players as a group

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Speaker 1: you can top it when you look at the collective ammunition.

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Speaker 2: That they have at the skill position.

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Speaker 3: As a group, they don't have an Andre Johnson or

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Speaker 3: an Arian Foster, the best Hall of Fame receiver and

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Speaker 3: the best running back in franchise history. But yes, they

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Speaker 3: got a group and as we saw last year, they

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Speaker 3: need depth. They were able to overcome eleven starting offensive

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Speaker 3: lineman and that's something none of us are talking about

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Speaker 3: that I know of it. It's like the offensive line

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Speaker 3: is fine, and maybe it is if everybody's healthy. And

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Speaker 3: that's another thing that makes what CJ. Strode accomplished as

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Speaker 3: a rookie even more impressive. Eleven different starting offensive line,

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Speaker 3: much less in backup roles. And one thing I've been

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Speaker 3: thinking about this deal with Stefan Diggs. I'll guarantee you

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Speaker 3: Dimiico Ryans or Nick Cassio or both of them did

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Speaker 3: not talk to Case Keenum because biggest play of his

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Speaker 3: in the Minneapolis Miracle after the seventeen playoffs to beat

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Speaker 3: the Saints. So Case sewing behind the scenes all season.

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Speaker 3: They made some beautiful music together, and Case of course

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Speaker 3: was the kind of the unheralded hero of CJ. Stroud's

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Speaker 3: development as a rookie because he did a great job

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Speaker 3: that he'll be Case would be a positive influence on

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Speaker 3: Stefan Diggs. In Case Diggs is never is not happy

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Speaker 3: at some point with how much he's getting the ball

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Speaker 3: in Buffalo. He was never afraid to express that on

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Speaker 3: social media. And I think Dimiko and between Dimiko and

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Speaker 3: Case and Stroud and some of their other veteran leaders,

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Speaker 3: I think that'll be great for Diggs and he will

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Speaker 4: Right, John, I don't think it completely eliminates the need

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Speaker 4: for wide receiver in the draft. Especially you don't want

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Speaker 4: to eskew a draft that's got this many good wide

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Speaker 4: receivers with nine picks I think you have throughout the draft.

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Speaker 4: But it maybe changes the priority of where you look

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Speaker 4: at wide receivers. So let's talk about forty two and

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Speaker 4: fifty nine. I don't think they'll pick it forty two

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Speaker 4: fifty nine, but their first couple of picks in this draft,

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Speaker 4: how does the priority change in your mind? If at all,

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Speaker 4: what they should do with those two picks.

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Speaker 3: I saw the Texans announced their draft party, and first

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Speaker 3: thing I thought about was, well, what if Casario trades

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Speaker 3: those two twos and moves back into the first round,

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Speaker 3: and which you can't rule out anything with Nick Casario,

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Speaker 3: his hands. Like you said, it's doubtful they're going to

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Speaker 3: be in both those spots. I think it'll be a

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Speaker 3: defensive tackle and a corner, or a corner and a

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Speaker 3: defensive tackle. I think the third round pick will also

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Speaker 3: those two fours, you might take a wide receiver. I

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Speaker 3: tell you something interesting, and we're all the same. We

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Speaker 3: try to read mock drafts, and I'm thinking seeing a

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Speaker 3: lot of people have the Texans taking a linebacker in

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Speaker 3: the second round, and I think they don't realize they

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Speaker 3: signed disease Alshaier, who Dimiko loves and will be on

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Speaker 3: the field. Christian Harris will be on the field. The

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Speaker 3: third linebacker might not be on the field but thirty

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Speaker 3: percent of the time. So why don't you use the

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Speaker 3: second round pick on one? Because he didn't give al

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Speaker 3: Shair a three year contract to spend a lot of

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Speaker 3: time on the bench. So I think it'll be the secondary,

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Speaker 3: and they've got to have another safety. You know, you

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Speaker 3: can't have a season like last year when Jalen Petrie

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Speaker 3: And so I think, considering Jimmy Ward's age and injury history,

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Speaker 3: that you've got to get another young safety like Petree,

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Speaker 3: who I think will be no later than the fourth round.

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Speaker 1: The General mentioned the draft party. It's a Friday night

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Speaker 1: draft party second and third round, April twenty sixth, Avenida,

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Speaker 1: Houston in downtown Houston. That's right in front of the

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Speaker 1: George R. Brown right there at Discovery Green. It's gonna

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Speaker 1: be awesome. Begins at six. We'll be on the air

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Speaker 1: from there. Texans Legends there, chance to buy the new merch.

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Speaker 1: Gonna be fun. Draft party presented by Medello. Friday, April

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Speaker 1: twenty sixth. There's the plug. Now, General and John Harris.

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Speaker 1: Where does this stack up?

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Speaker 2: This group?

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Speaker 1: When I'm talking about three receivers Nico Tankdell and Stefan Diggs,

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Speaker 1: tight end Dalton Schultz, running back Joe Mixon, that's your

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Speaker 1: past catching group right there. I know it's deeper than that,

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Speaker 1: but those are the front line players as of now.

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Speaker 1: What does that stack up with some of the best

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Speaker 1: in the league. The only team I could see is

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Speaker 1: by far the number one team in the league, and

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Speaker 1: based on the fact that they've done it before, because

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Speaker 1: the Texans haven't done anything yet with this particular group

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Speaker 1: some pieces of it. Yes, is San Francisco, but after

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Speaker 1: that it gets really interesting.

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Speaker 2: On paper.

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Speaker 1: They stack up very well against everybody in the league. Miami,

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Speaker 1: some of the other teams you might be thinking of

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Speaker 1: as well, Detroit perhaps.

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Speaker 3: Maybe Detroit Detroit with Almond Ross, Saint Brown plus.

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Speaker 3: They have talent and they have speed. They've got a

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Speaker 3: really good tidy end. I think that's a good one.

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Speaker 3: They'd be right there with the Texans. And health has

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Speaker 3: a lot to do with it. You got Noah Brown,

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Speaker 3: they resigned him, he had those two great games. Robert

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Speaker 3: Woods is still here. Maybe all those guys won't be

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Speaker 3: here when they get to fifty three man roster. But

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Speaker 3: if you look at it from a defensive coordinator's standpoint

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Speaker 3: and what you have to do, yeah, and you double

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Speaker 3: Nico No, You've got digs. Brian Badinger, the NFL Network,

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Speaker 3: former longtime guard. He loves to use video and he

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Speaker 3: had one. I waited a couple of times today about

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Speaker 3: digs and his route running. He said he is a

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Speaker 3: smart he is bleds he goes right to the spot

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Speaker 3: he's supposed to. Nobody's ever complained about Stefan Diggs. His

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Speaker 3: plane he dropped past last year, So what all guys

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Speaker 3: dropped passes. And he is really smart, and I think

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Speaker 3: he's gonna love being here. And if all those guys

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Speaker 3: produce anywhere close to what they did last year, if

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Speaker 3: Tankin stayed healthy all season, but they want to the

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Speaker 3: ball a lot. Joe Mixon can catch too, But that's

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Speaker 3: a lot of options. And you talk about nightmares, that

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Speaker 3: offense is going to be a defensive coordinator's nightmare.

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Speaker 4: The Rams are underrated, but I don't think I have

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Speaker 4: a third receiver. The Ravens was Theave Flowers, Mark Andrews,

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Speaker 4: Derrick Henry's pretty good. But they don't have a trio

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Speaker 2: They don't. They don't have that I'm talking about.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the Chiefs. I think Pacheco's underrated. So you've got

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Speaker 4: Kelsey Pacheco. You know where she Rice was good last year?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they don't have a tight end either. They don't

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Speaker 4: I can't remember who that now tight end, but they

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Speaker 2: But they don't have the depth of 's been.

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Speaker 4: No, I'm not put them in there because they don't

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Speaker 2: That's what's unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: Is this the most excitement for the Houston Texans this

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Speaker 1: And look, we get talk about year one. I think

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Speaker 4: That's its own category because you're going into its for

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Speaker 4: the first season of being football, being back, that's kind

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Speaker 3: Well, twelve coming off first division style, first playoff victory,

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Speaker 3: year too. The problem during O'Brien is so many people

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Speaker 3: Kubiak is would be close to this one right now

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Speaker 3: because number one, Kubiak was so liked and respected and

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Speaker 4: Remember how we felt in twenty nineteen when we had

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Speaker 1: Twenty eighteen, there was a ton of excitement because Watson

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Speaker 1: something with Deshaun Watson because we saw those five and

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Speaker 1: I think General's right. Twelve was huge. But here's the difference.

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Speaker 1: People really like Gary Kubiak, people love Damiic o'ryans, and

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Speaker 1: what can the team do now? But there's this extra

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Speaker 2: Stroud here.

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Speaker 1: So I think that this could be number one, But

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Speaker 4: Yeah, General, I don't know if you're doing a mock draft,

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Speaker 4: but Minnesota's at eleven.

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Speaker 5: You know I was doing one with you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we gotta talk about that coming up soon. Minnesota

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Speaker 4: at eleven. I think the Rai the Broncos are at twelve,

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Speaker 4: Maybe the Raiders could say, well, you know, we got

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Speaker 3: Assuming they have JJ McCarthy soaring, his stock soaring because

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Speaker 3: Minnesota has the two ones, including the twenty third from

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Speaker 3: they like McCarthy, it would be so interesting if one traded.

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Speaker 5: Up to five with the Chargers.

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Speaker 3: And then right before the pick another one traded up

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Speaker 3: indeed that's who you want. But those teams next year,

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Speaker 5: So I think Minnesota.

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Speaker 3: When they made the deal with the Texans, it was

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Speaker 3: the fact that Jim Harbaugh has done more for JJ

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Speaker 3: Goslin from Rick Goslin dot com, who's one of the

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Speaker 3: he said there are exceptions.

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Speaker 5: Was you gotta throw at least.

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Speaker 3: Thirteen hundred asses in college McCarthy threw I think seven

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Speaker 3: he wouldn't take quarterback unless he's been a three year starter.

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Speaker 3: But he had bow Nicks who started a record sixty

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Speaker 3: one games. But anyway, that was the formula and there

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Speaker 5: Wait, did you.

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Speaker 4: Say there's gonna there's a chance that McCarthy will go

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Speaker 5: Say that there's gonna be amazing.

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Speaker 1: Bo Nix has started sixty one games in college one games.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you got the you had the uh, you had

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Speaker 2: That basically just and then he played five years.

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Speaker 1: Holy crap, that's incredible. Yeah, that is a ton of

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Speaker 2: The sxty one games. They'll shoe. So how old is

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Speaker 5: So how old is you want to play big deal anymore?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's a question of Kembonick's play at

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Speaker 2: At the Senior Bowl. He didn't surely could.

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Speaker 4: But it's gonna be interesting with those top four quarterbacks.

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Speaker 4: Drake May. I mean, Washington starts changing the draft, and

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Speaker 4: decision to make. To your point, General, if the only

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Speaker 4: if you get to three or four, but if you

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Speaker 4: just live with Jacobe Prissette for a year and we'll

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Speaker 5: A quarterback later there's no quarterbacks, and they.

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Speaker 4: Don't, well, don't get a quarterback litle bit later they'll

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Speaker 4: go get what I had in my mock. Happened was

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Speaker 4: So the Giants moved up, They moved to six, They

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Speaker 1: General, pick your bust among the top quarterbacks, who's the

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Speaker 3: Now, I wouldn't pick Caleb Williams. Everybody says such a

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Speaker 3: I would say McCarthy because he has the least experience

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Speaker 5: Uh uh what am I trying this body of work? Yeah,

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Speaker 5: that's exactly it.

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Speaker 3: The other amazing. Did Williams and Daniels are transfers? And

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Drake May played at Carolina the whole time. They're all transfers. Now,

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Speaker 4: But uh, yeah, I tend to like McCarthy's. I mean, look,

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Speaker 4: the guy runs very well, so you got that in

439
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Speaker 4: his in his whole story. But I think because he

440
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Speaker 4: runs well, and because Michigan ran the ball well, and

441
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Speaker 4: because Michigan dominated teams last year.

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Speaker 2: McCarthy didn't have to do a whole lot.

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Speaker 4: But I know when they played Alabama, he made clutch

444
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Speaker 4: throws down a stretch. When he played here against Washington

445
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Speaker 4: and Michigan's offense is starting to stagner it a little bit,

446
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Speaker 4: and watched his getting back in the game, JJ McCarthy

447
00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:28,440
Speaker 4: made a couple of huge, massive throws he can make.

448
00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:30,679
Speaker 4: He can throw every he can make every throw. But

449
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Speaker 4: I just don't look at McCarthy and think, oh yeah,

450
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Speaker 4: I'll take him in front of the other three.

451
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Speaker 2: I'm not taking him in front of the other set.

452
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Speaker 5: The one you think has the best chance to bust.

453
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Speaker 4: I think I told Mark the one I would say

454
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Speaker 4: is Drake May, just because he's got too many WTF

455
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Speaker 4: thoughts on the field, Like he's got FOMO on every throw,

456
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Speaker 4: like manifit, what's I can't say that in the radio.

457
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Speaker 4: Drake May just makes just questionable decisions throwing the football.

458
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Speaker 2: That's said.

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Speaker 4: I really like Jake May because he's Jordan Love. He's

460
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Speaker 4: six four to two twenty. He's the same size as

461
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Speaker 4: Jordan Love. He plays almost the exact same way. They're

462
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Speaker 4: not for three burners but they're fast enough can make

463
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Speaker 4: every throw, and they both kind of the same way

464
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Speaker 4: in college. They were both the same way in college.

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Speaker 4: They made every throw they thought they could make. If

466
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Speaker 4: that meant throw it through three guys to get to

467
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Speaker 4: the receiver, they did, So they got to rein that

468
00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:23,280
Speaker 4: in Green Bay found a way to do that over

469
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Speaker 4: the years.

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Speaker 2: So now Green Bay's got some.

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Speaker 5: Last year, we're talking about all this involving the Texans.

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Speaker 2: It's so nice, so nice, so nice to have a quarterback. General.

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Speaker 1: I know you're a big women's basketball fan because of

474
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Speaker 1: the Baylor success in recent years, So what were your

475
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Speaker 1: thoughts on what you saw Monday night where it's all

476
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Speaker 1: going from here.

477
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Speaker 3: I thought Kaylen Clark was fabulous. Of course, I was

478
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Speaker 3: pulling for LSU because of Kim Maulke and everything she

479
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Speaker 3: did at Baylor. I think South Carolina is gonna win

480
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Speaker 3: a championship. They're the best team overall, with the best

481
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Speaker 3: depth and a great coach. I was hoping Juju Watkins

482
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Speaker 3: Bishman from USC would play Kaitlin Clark because Clark's leaving

483
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:07,879
Speaker 3: for the WNBA and Juju Watkins will take her place

484
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Speaker 3: as the premier player in college basketball. And I think

485
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Speaker 3: it's great. The game between LSU and Iowa outdrew the

486
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Speaker 3: biggest audience in women's history, and it was a list

487
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Speaker 3: of all the things like World Series, NBA, all these

488
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Speaker 3: things they outdrew, including Thursday night football on Amazon in

489
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Speaker 3: the NFL. So I can't wait to see what Iowa

490
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Speaker 3: and you Connell draw, even though they don't come on

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Speaker 3: till nine to thirty at east.

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Speaker 2: Are they crazy?

493
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Speaker 4: They're starting that game at the earliest at nine thirty,

494
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Speaker 4: Are mister Nutts? They're crazy?

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Speaker 2: Wait? Nine thirty eastern, nine thirty eastern. Probably we got

496
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Speaker 2: the game of four seven.

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Speaker 1: This is not thinking. You want kids to watch this game.

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Speaker 1: You want young children watching this.

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Speaker 3: They're getting a lot of criticism for it too, for

500
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Speaker 3: that very reason. People talking about, well, I want my

501
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Speaker 3: kid to watch it, but my kid's not gonna stay

502
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Speaker 3: up till midnight.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is the big mistake the NBA makes, major

504
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Speaker 1: League Baseball makes. Although Baseball's tried to correct it a

505
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Speaker 1: little bit, the NBA hasn't done anything about it.

506
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Speaker 2: And there you have it, So.

507
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Speaker 1: All right, And finally, thoughts on the Astros. Are you

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Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty two game guy or are you

509
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Speaker 1: paddick after owing four nine?

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Speaker 5: I believe like you do.

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Speaker 3: You take it one game at a time, and it

512
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 3: always kills me when, like I'll tweak negative stuff about

513
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Speaker 3: the Astros and people will kill me.

514
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Speaker 5: I'm told I don't look at them about that. You

515
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:43,480
Speaker 5: gotta wait. They've won the win. Blind support to me.

516
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Speaker 3: If you stink it up the way they did against

517
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Speaker 3: the Yankees, you should be criticized. If they bitch a

518
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,720
Speaker 3: no hitter in one hitter to beat the Blue Jays,

519
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Speaker 3: you should be praised. If you give away a game

520
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 3: against the Blue Jays with bonheaded base running by how

521
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Speaker 3: t V and Jakes boneheaded Blake based running when he

522
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 3: fell down, you should be criticized. But they're where they

523
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 3: need to be, which is out a minute May Park.

524
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Speaker 3: They're going to Arlington. They're playing the Rangers in a

525
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:16,200
Speaker 3: weekend series. I hate the Rangers. And the best thing

526
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 3: about the Astros right now is Christian Avier has been

527
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:23,879
Speaker 3: magnificent and from Berbaldez coming off a great start, and

528
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Speaker 3: I'm really looking forward to see if Ronel Blanco can

529
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Speaker 3: do what Johnny vandermir did only pinch youre in history

530
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Speaker 3: with back to back no hitters.

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Speaker 1: Listen, I don't want Uncle Johnny's record to be broken.

532
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Speaker 1: Blanco can go one hit shutout. Uncle Johnny, I'm not

533
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Speaker 1: related to him, has a record that will never be broken.

534
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Speaker 2: So there, That's the.

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Speaker 4: First thing I thought of when I met Mark. When

536
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Speaker 4: I saw the name Vandermuir, I was like, oh, Tonny, Vandermuir.

537
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,920
Speaker 4: Two hitters consecutive no hitters have never been done again

538
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Speaker 4: in the end in the Major League Baseball.

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Speaker 1: Since I get asked this all the time, but no relation.

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Speaker 1: All right, General, thanks a lot for joining us. We

541
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Speaker 1: look forward to reading your stuff on Houston Texans dot com.

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Speaker 5: Guys, thank you very much. As always coming up.

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Speaker 2: More likely to happen?

544
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Speaker 1: Who's gonna have more catches in the Texans wide receiver room?

545
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Speaker 1: Ooh oh, let's discuss. It's Texans Radio. Let's rock on

546
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:15,199
Speaker 1: here on Texans Radio. It's Thursday, and that means in

547
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Speaker 1: the six thirty segment, it is time for the game

548
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 1: that we like to call more likely to happen. All right, Johnny,

549
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,919
Speaker 1: here we go. I'm gonna go right to it. I

550
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,920
Speaker 1: teased it. I'm not bearing it. We're gonna go right

551
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 1: to the goods. More likely to have the most catches

552
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 1: in the Texans receiving room. Stefan Diggs, Nicocollins, Tank Dell.

553
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Speaker 1: Those are the only three that qualify for this conversation currently,

554
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:44,400
Speaker 1: Who's gonna have the most catches in twenty twenty four.

555
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Speaker 4: Now, I don't want to be a prisoner of the moment,

556
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Speaker 4: but I'm gonna say Stefon Diggs. Okay, I think there

557
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:52,200
Speaker 4: are a couple of things that work in Dick's favor.

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Speaker 4: First of all, he's done it. He's been very consistent.

559
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:58,239
Speaker 4: He's been very consistent with his availability as well, and

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Speaker 4: that's a big factor.

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Speaker 2: So put those two together, I think it's gonna end

562
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Speaker 2: up being stuff on Diggs?

563
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Speaker 4: Now is is it gonna be really close?

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Speaker 2: I hope.

565
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:08,919
Speaker 3: So.

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Speaker 4: I hope this is like eighty five, eighty one, seventy

567
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Speaker 4: nine sort of thing that would be really fun if

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Speaker 4: you had those three all at that particular particular level.

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Speaker 4: I just feel like there's gonna be times where it's

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Speaker 4: gonna be a Digs game, there's gonna be a Tank game,

571
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Speaker 4: there's gonna be a Nico game, there's gonna be one

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Speaker 4: of those. But I just feel like, consistently speaking, it's

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Speaker 4: it's gonna be Digs. He's been available for seventeen games

574
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:37,159
Speaker 4: for I don't know how many. I'm not looking at

575
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 4: his numbers right now, but well, he hasn't missed many games.

576
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Speaker 4: I know that the seventeen last year. How many of

577
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Speaker 4: you missing his four years in Buffalo Nico?

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Speaker 1: I gotta pull that out, but I have Last year

579
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Speaker 1: at seventeen, Nico played fifteen. Nico had twenty seven fewer catches.

580
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 1: Check this out. Diggs had one oh seven. Nico Collins

581
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Speaker 1: caught eighty balls. However, howe As Howard Cosell used to say,

582
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Speaker 1: Nico nearly thirteen hundred yards twelve ninety seven, Stefan Diggs

583
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Speaker 1: eleven eighty three. So Nico out yarded him significantly with

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Speaker 1: twenty seven fewer catches. Nico's yards per catch we've got

585
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 1: over this many times, sixteen point two, top number in

586
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Speaker 1: Texans history.

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Speaker 2: Give me that.

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Speaker 1: Give me high yards per catch. Nico Collins maybe fewer receptions,

589
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 1: why not? And Digs catches a bunch of balls. And

590
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Speaker 1: by the way, Tank catches seventy for a billion yards.

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Speaker 2: Let's go.

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Speaker 4: You want to hear wild stuf. What year do we

593
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Speaker 4: go to seventeen games twenty.

594
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Speaker 2: One was twenty one. Yeah, David Khalee. Stefan Diggs missed

595
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 2: one game in Buffalo. Yeah one. He's durable. One game.

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Speaker 4: Now, I didn't always he didn't start every well, he

597
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 4: didn't start one game in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 2: That was it dead. He missed one game in twenty.

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Speaker 1: Years and twenty twenty. He and Josh Allen went off.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that was incredible.

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Speaker 4: That was one hundred and sixty six targets, one hundred

602
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Speaker 4: and twenty seven receptions, fifteen thirty five yards, eight touchdowns.

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Speaker 2: Wow, Holy cow.

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Speaker 4: That's I mean, that's an incredible, incredible number. He was

605
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Speaker 4: obviously a pro bowler, all pro. I mean, that's that's incredible.

606
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Speaker 4: But just the durability factor you asked me just doing

607
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 4: the math, I mean, if he's available for seventeen games,

608
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Speaker 4: he catches five passes a game, I mean, that's five

609
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Speaker 4: passes a game. That doesn't seem like a whole heck

610
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Speaker 4: of a lot city five at the end of the year. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I think I'll take that.

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Speaker 1: This does not hurt Nico Collins to have Stefan Diggs here.

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Speaker 2: This is going to help, all right.

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Speaker 1: He'll eat targets that maybe some of the other guys

615
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Speaker 1: would have gotten. But to have those guys on the

616
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Speaker 1: field at the same time with Tank, with Dalton Schultz

617
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Speaker 1: catching passes, with mixing out of the backfield, Oh my goodness,

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Speaker 1: let's go.

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Speaker 2: Can't wait to see it. Looking forward to it.

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Speaker 5: More likely to happen.

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Speaker 1: Right next one, more likely to bust out. I have

622
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Speaker 1: a great season, just a season from nowhere to somewhere special.

623
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Speaker 1: The Tennessee Titans or the Minnesota Vikings. Now with one

624
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Speaker 1: of these teams, we know who's playing quarterbacks. With the other,

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Speaker 1: we'll say, but what do you think many or the

626
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 1: Titans both on the Texans scheduled. Texans are slated to

627
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Speaker 1: be at Minnesota. Obviously they get the Titans twice in

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Speaker 1: the division.

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Speaker 4: My instant reaction is Vikings. I was working on the

630
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Speaker 4: Vikings actually last night and seven wins last year. I

631
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 4: was working just looking at their lineup, Like, man, they

632
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 4: have Jordan Addison and Justin Jefferson.

633
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 2: They have Howkinson at tight end.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they just signed Aaron Jones who's released by the Packers.

635
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 4: Offensive line Christian Derisol is one of the better left

636
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 4: tackles and leak Like man, holy cat, we were talking groups.

637
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 4: This qualifies as a really good group. So, however, put

638
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Speaker 4: in one of those four quarterbacks that we've been talking

639
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Speaker 4: about in the draftle Kayleb Williams, Drake May, Jane Daniels,

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Speaker 4: JJ McCarthy.

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Speaker 1: But one of those guys, and if you're wondering, Sam

642
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 1: Darnold would be the starter if they were playing this weekend,

643
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 1: or Nick Mullins Mal Santa right.

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00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 4: I can't even it's the vikings to me because I

645
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:18,959
Speaker 4: know what this. I know what the ceiling is for

646
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 4: Will Levis. I know then titles.

647
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 2: Oh we don't know. No, look we got Will Levis.

648
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 2: Leave this guy. Watch him throw.

649
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 4: Every video I see posted by Titans fans is him

650
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 4: throwing against no defenses.

651
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just him.

652
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 4: Doing his little fancy footwork Aaron Rodgers type throws and

653
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 4: just flicking it and whatever. That's all well and good,

654
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Speaker 4: But I said it down on the sidelines that day.

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Speaker 4: You're about to experience the Will Levis experience here. He

656
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 4: just made an unbelievable diving to his right throw for

657
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Speaker 4: a first down. Holy cow, how did he do that?

658
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 4: And what do you do with the next throw? He

659
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 4: threw it right to Stephen Nelson with Treylon burks right

660
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 4: down the sideline wide open. I remember that that's the

661
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 4: that is the Levis experience, and I just can't think

662
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:03,239
Speaker 4: that has a really high ceiling. But you put a

663
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 4: rookie with quarterbacks coach Josh McCown, you've got a Kubiak,

664
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Speaker 4: which I don't even know which one it is is

665
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 4: the offensive coordinator and Kevin O'Connell. That's still there with

666
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 4: the Vikings with a rookie quarterback. And look, Drake may

667
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 4: played for Josh McCown in high school. They have a connection,

668
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 4: just like Drad Johnson had a connection with c. J.

669
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 2: Stroud.

670
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 4: They're not gonna get kay with Williams. So I think

671
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 4: it's one of the other three. Jade Daniels, Drake may

672
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 4: Uh and JJ McCarthy. Those quarterbacks are going into a

673
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 4: much better situation when you think about it, than Bryce

674
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 4: Young went into last year in Carolina.

675
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 1: How awesome would it be if one of those Kubiak

676
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 1: kids was running a completely different system. I gonna go

677
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 1: Wishbone run the Wish rebel rebelling from Dad.

678
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 2: Here's here's the thing.

679
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 1: He embraces the Patriot offense that nobody can run except

680
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 1: for the greatest quarterback whoever lived, and he's now retired.

681
00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 2: Harry would be unhappy with that.

682
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 4: I haven't done the math on this mark, but how

683
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 4: many teams now run some sort of version of that offense?

684
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 2: It feels like everybody's doing it now, Johnny, Why haven't

685
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 2: more teams embraced the Patriots offense? That doesn't work? I

686
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:16,840
Speaker 2: guess it's built into that question or likely to happen?

687
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 2: Next question? Let's get to the.

688
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 5: Next more likely to happen?

689
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 1: Uh, more likely to be the starter that gets replaced,

690
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 1: either by injury or.

691
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 2: Ineptitude, mistakes, whatever.

692
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 1: So who's gonna lose their spot first for whatever reason?

693
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 1: The Titans, Will Levis or the Colts Anthony Richardson, Oh, I.

694
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 4: Thought you were going somewhere else with this. I was

695
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:47,840
Speaker 4: bracing for Steelers Russell Wilson. I think it's gonna be

696
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 4: It'll be Will Levis, Okay, because I think with Richardson

697
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 4: number five, we're all pick Look. Bill O'Brien used to

698
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 4: say all the time about well, it doesn't matter where

699
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,840
Speaker 4: they get picked. Yes, it does to this degree. You

700
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 4: got a second round versus a first rounder. Like there's

701
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 4: all kinds of contractual things that go with that, You're

702
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 4: gonna give that first rounder every single opportunity. And I

703
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 4: think I saw a tweet today. Gosh, it was a

704
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 4: cult I was a Cults writer and I was like,

705
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 4: I almost sent it to you, and then I was like, no,

706
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:18,240
Speaker 4: I want to talk about this, and then I forgot

707
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:21,720
Speaker 4: to flag it. Oh, but it was essentially Anthony Richardson

708
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 4: is throwing inside and outside the building, and there is

709
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 4: a lot of excitement on West sixty fifth Street. Now

710
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 4: dive into what Anthony Richardson is doing, and they read

711
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 4: an article about it, and I'm like.

712
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 1: As as I roll that, I have to self report

713
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 1: because in twenty eighteen, I was like that too.

714
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, when Watson was actually out.

715
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:45,799
Speaker 1: There throwing the balls, what wasn't throw the same kind

716
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 1: of thing. In fact, one day we were up in

717
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:52,800
Speaker 1: the press box for some reason and the team was

718
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,799
Speaker 1: out there working. It was pre OTA's but they could

719
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:58,240
Speaker 1: use the ball. It was one of those deals. Yah yeah, yeah,

720
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:01,240
Speaker 1: But before the media gets out there and somebody's slicking

721
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 1: the ball around.

722
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:03,879
Speaker 2: But as I look closely, it's not number four, it's

723
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 2: number five. It was Joe Webb.

724
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, And I got all excited, but I love

725
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 1: Joe Webb, so I was happy for Joe that he's

726
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,279
Speaker 1: throwing the football, but it was just one of those

727
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:18,360
Speaker 1: deals where not yet I understand the Colts excitement. However,

728
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 1: we had more reasons to be excited at that point

729
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:24,439
Speaker 1: because the first six games with Riots and were unbelievable.

730
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,319
Speaker 4: Planet didn't even see a full game, and I was

731
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 4: pretty close on the tweet. I found this from Nate Atkins,

732
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,839
Speaker 4: who covers the Colts for Indie Star.

733
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:34,880
Speaker 2: He said, Anthony, I almost hit it.

734
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 4: Anthony Richardson is throwing again inside and outside of the

735
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 4: Colts facility, and with his starting receivers, it's created a

736
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 4: buzz at West fifty sixth Street. And what Shane Stikeen

737
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 4: is most excited about to build on his processing skills.

738
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:49,280
Speaker 1: Did I tell you I met him at the Anthony Richardson,

739
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 1: I know, I met Stik and Shane Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,

740
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 1: super nice guy.

741
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's an impressive Like I saw him at the

742
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:57,800
Speaker 4: Senior Bowl. He was standing next to Ballard and Ballard's

743
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 4: not a tall guy, and I looked, I was like, man,

744
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:03,239
Speaker 4: who is that. That's a big guy. I thought at

745
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 4: first it was Nick Sirianni. For some reason, I looked

746
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,439
Speaker 4: at it, like, holy cow, he's like six y three.

747
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 2: Did you touch a ballad at the Senior Bowl? I

748
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 2: did for a little bit.

749
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, was he His hair is growing out in the back, Yeah,

750
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,319
Speaker 1: a little bit. It's not a mullet, but it's got

751
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 1: mullet potential.

752
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 2: Our buddy, our buddy Lance, Airline Lance.

753
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 4: And I've known Chris for a long time, and so

754
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 4: of course that's the first thing that Lance said to

755
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 4: mess with him.

756
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 2: And then he sees me and he's like, oh, man,

757
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:28,720
Speaker 2: see a CJ. Straw.

758
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,880
Speaker 4: Come on, man, I gotta sit out here and face

759
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:33,399
Speaker 4: that guy two times a year.

760
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:36,720
Speaker 2: Yep, yep. You certainly do enjoyed it exactly.

761
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:40,479
Speaker 1: Speaking of quarterbacks and things like that, I didn't send

762
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:42,760
Speaker 1: this to you and Andre, but somebody put a tweet

763
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 1: up and it was Gardner Minshew versus Trevor Lawrence and

764
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 1: the numbers, and I gotta tell you it's the.

765
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 2: Numbers are pretty close. Oh, very very better.

766
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 1: I mean, there are a lot of things that Minshew

767
00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:01,319
Speaker 1: does better statistically anyway, So I'll just leave it at that.

768
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 2: I know Mitche played a bunch without a bunch of wins.

769
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 4: But now that you said that that gummt Trevor Lawrence

770
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 4: is gonna throw for like three fitty and four tuddies

771
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 4: against us.

772
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 2: Well, look, he can do that from time to time.

773
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter in his back. You just can't do

774
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,319
Speaker 2: it all the time. It doesn't matter. And as long

775
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 2: as you get that division that still hasn't beaten us

776
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:20,320
Speaker 2: in Jacksonville.

777
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 1: All right, let's keep it going here, all right, more

778
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 1: likely to have a better career. Caitlin Clark or Caleb Williams. Oh,

779
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 1: you know, I was gonna go another direction with you.

780
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 2: I like I like this one though. I'll insert somebody

781
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 2: else after you answer this question. Caylyn Clark, all right,

782
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:41,800
Speaker 2: I think Cale much more of a shoe in a WNBA.

783
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 4: She's gonna crush it right. Not only that, but she

784
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 4: watching her the other night in the game. The one

785
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 4: thing I told you this that stood out was how

786
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,319
Speaker 4: much faster she was than anybody, Like when she got

787
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:53,839
Speaker 4: the ball in her hands, she was like tanked dell

788
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 4: so And look Caleb's got Caleb's got that as well.

789
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 2: He's got the magician Thaman. He throws that.

790
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 4: You just shake your headt like, what did he just do.

791
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 4: Now how playing in Chicago impacts that all that. We'll

792
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 4: see whether they get him a weapon number nine. That'll

793
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 4: be interesting because they have picks number They have picks

794
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 4: number one nine, and then they have like two other

795
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 4: picks the rest of the draft.

796
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 2: It's interesting.

797
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:18,800
Speaker 4: They have like two or three picks the rest of

798
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:22,319
Speaker 4: the draft, So they're gonna be interesting. I'm gonna Kaylyn Clark.

799
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 4: I just think she is. What she does just translates

800
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:28,359
Speaker 4: so much more to the next level. And we'll see

801
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 4: whether the Bears can take what Kaitlyn Williams does and

802
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,880
Speaker 4: translate that to the next level, because how many teams

803
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 4: have not been able to do that with their their

804
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:36,839
Speaker 4: first round quarterbacks.

805
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna throw Victor went Banyama. Oh, I'll

806
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:42,399
Speaker 2: still say Kaitlyn Clark. Yeah, me too.

807
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 4: I'll still say Kaitlin Clark. I mean he's freaky now,

808
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:48,839
Speaker 4: I mean dunks. I think from the free throw line

809
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 4: standing there, if he if he just got a free

810
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 4: throw and just jumped from the free throw line and

811
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 4: laid it in before he landed. When that kind as

812
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 4: a free throw, I think it does accounts, doesn't it.

813
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 4: I think as long as he doesn't hit the ground

814
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 4: before he would leave his hand before it gets through

815
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,319
Speaker 4: the hoop or something, because he could probably dunk. I mean,

816
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 4: he could easily just dunk that. Why did and will

817
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:10,359
Speaker 4: do that?

818
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:13,239
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know either. Yeah, let's get

819
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:17,399
Speaker 2: to the next one. Visionary more likely to happen, all right.

820
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 1: More likely to have a better season, And this is

821
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 1: an injury prediction one as well. Joe Burrow who's coming back,

822
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:29,319
Speaker 1: and Aaron Rodgers who's coming back. Now, the Texans will

823
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:31,440
Speaker 1: take on Rogers and the Jets at the Meadowlands. They

824
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:34,319
Speaker 1: will not face Burrow this year until or unless they

825
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 1: meet in the playoffs.

826
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:39,919
Speaker 4: Thoughts, I look at that Jets roster and I feel

827
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 4: like it's it's good offensively now. The offensive line is

828
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 4: still think has a couple of pieces, but they've added

829
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 4: a couple of vets on the outside. And obviously it's

830
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 4: a big if if Morgan, Moses and Tyrants miss stay healthy,

831
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:54,800
Speaker 4: then oh maybe Rodgers is protected.

832
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:58,400
Speaker 2: But Joey b has been doing it behind.

833
00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:02,440
Speaker 4: A dog snot offensive line that just hasn't been any good,

834
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 4: and he still creates. I mean, I still say I

835
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 4: was standing basically at the line where.

836
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:11,399
Speaker 2: Jamar Chase caught that bomb from him.

837
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 4: I had moved to the other side of the field

838
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 4: and I'm seeing Joe scramble and I'm seeing the ball.

839
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:18,800
Speaker 2: I'm like, well, what's he doing with this? How's he

840
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 2: get that?

841
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:19,319
Speaker 5: Oh?

842
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:23,360
Speaker 2: Oh my well, I think Chase cood Oh good, Oh god, it's.

843
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 4: The I mean, it's it's a mahomes like throw. But

844
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 4: he made it so easy. And the thing was, I

845
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:30,319
Speaker 4: got out. I got out to the field earlier that day.

846
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 4: I watched him work on all those throws before the game,

847
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 4: like when nobody there, it was just him and the manager.

848
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:38,360
Speaker 4: They worked on all those throws and he was money.

849
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 4: I think Joe Burrow coming back healthy, that's makes the

850
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:44,840
Speaker 4: Bengals scary again. We'll see what they do with t Higgins,

851
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 4: but I think defensively that could be the problem for

852
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 4: the Bengals.

853
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:48,799
Speaker 2: They've taken some hits on that.

854
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 4: Side, and I don't know that they've replaced everybody they

855
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 4: want to replace over there, in particular DJ Reader. So

856
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:55,440
Speaker 4: we'll see what they do. But I think Joey be

857
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:57,839
Speaker 4: coming back. Do you trust a forty year old coming

858
00:41:57,840 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 4: off an achilles tear? No?

859
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:00,280
Speaker 2: That well?

860
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 4: When have we ever seen that happen with success in

861
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 4: the NFL, yep. I mean, Rogers is different, but I

862
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:09,240
Speaker 4: just have never seen it happen. So I'm not betting

863
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 4: that he has that kind of year.

864
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 1: No darkness retreat this year that we know about anyway,

865
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 1: so we'll see that.

866
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 2: Maybe it's dark right now, it could be never No.

867
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 1: All right, Next up, how you enjoy the NFL on

868
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 1: television or not? NFL Network, What they're going through. What

869
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 1: are you looking forward to this fall? Let's talk about that,

870
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,880
Speaker 1: among other things. To close it out here on Texans

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Speaker 1: All Access, all right, final walk in the Park here

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Speaker 1: on Texans Radio tonight, another big show tomorrow, among other things,

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Speaker 1: a sampling of Texans Ogs with Indy Kalub and Anthony Hill.

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Speaker 2: And you want to hear what these guys have to say.

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Speaker 1: They're both prominent Houston area businessmen as well as former

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Speaker 1: NFL players, and it's good stuff. And by the way,

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Speaker 1: here's a teaser for next week's schedule to appear on

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Speaker 1: Texans Ogs on Ray Johnson with Wow.

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Speaker 2: This is the one we wow. So that's gonna be good.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's get to this now. NFL Network very

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00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 1: sad for us to see the James Palmer and andrews

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Speaker 1: cciliano and Melissa Stark no longer with NFL Network, and

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Speaker 1: is it will sell the Yeah, he's the he's the

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00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 1: big guy, the news guy on Good Morning Football, and

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Speaker 1: that show is being completely revamped.

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Speaker 2: It's off the air right now. They're gonna redo it.

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Speaker 1: Apparently in LA. We'll see, We'll see how that goes.

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Speaker 1: Because the league, Johnny, the league wants to sell all

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Speaker 1: of NFL media. They want to sell it off to

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Speaker 1: probably ESPN. This leaves a lot of things to question

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00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:40,759
Speaker 1: one of them. And look, I don't know what you

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Speaker 1: do with NFL network. It's just another channel on TV

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Speaker 1: at that point. Now they'll do something good with it.

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Speaker 1: But I think the problem is NFL Network doesn't have

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Speaker 1: enough live events.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the league, but they don't have enough games.

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Speaker 1: And that's what sustains ESPN and FS one and all

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00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 1: those other channels. And then their ancillary program is even

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Speaker 1: better because you have PTI and some of the shows

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Speaker 1: that really do work. The McAfee show does get numbers

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Speaker 1: in three four hundred thousand a day. NFL Network has

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Speaker 1: nothing that gets those kinds of numbers unless it's the combine,

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Speaker 1: or you're in training camp, or you're rerunning preseason games

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Speaker 1: that everybody wants to see or enough people want to see.

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Speaker 1: So I think the NFL network people are in big

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Speaker 1: trouble here.

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Speaker 2: And I love them.

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Speaker 1: I love the programming I do, and I think a

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Speaker 1: lot of us who really die hard style follow this

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Speaker 1: league due but clearly it's up for sale.

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Speaker 2: There's a four sales sign on it. Literally, I'm not

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00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:35,239
Speaker 2: making this up. It's not reported. And Roger Goodella said

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Speaker 2: that would you.

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Speaker 4: I'm just I'm asking because I know with the NFL

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Speaker 4: Plus app you can go pick any game you want

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Speaker 4: and watch a condensed version of the game whatever. But

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Speaker 4: it makes sense for the NFL network just on a

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Speaker 4: on a Monday or you know, Tuesday, you have a

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Speaker 4: bunch of press conferences. Monday, you can play and react

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Speaker 4: to that sound. But on Tuesday it's just all day games. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: of games, because the game is pretty much forty to

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Speaker 4: forty five. Well, if you add commercials in there, that

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Speaker 4: ends up being an hour.

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Speaker 2: They don't run enough of those condensed That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: They run those condensed games.

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Speaker 1: Yes, they run entire games, which I think is kind

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Speaker 1: of a waste of time.

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Speaker 2: It's a way.

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Speaker 1: It's because I don't want to sit through an entire game.

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Speaker 1: I just did that, and even if I've not done it,

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Speaker 1: I want to watch the game.

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Speaker 2: I want to watch a condensed copy.

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Speaker 4: But if you're sitting there for an hour at lunch, yeah,

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Speaker 4: so you got our lunch. You can watch whole game,

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Speaker 4: edit out all the stuff you don't need and make

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Speaker 4: the game super watchable and enjoyable that way. And yes,

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Speaker 4: it's a lot of editing work, but SYNK the investment

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Speaker 4: into that, and I think they'll be a lot more successful.

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Speaker 2: Also maybe more clever shows. I don't know. Good Morning Football.

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Speaker 1: I got to admit it's always on in my office,

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Speaker 1: but most often with the SoundOff because I'm working, you know,

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Speaker 1: And every once in a while I'll see a topic

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Speaker 1: angry Ron's I want to watch that.

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Speaker 2: That's awesome, Kyle Brandt. I might let him build the show.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what they should do. H here's the

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Speaker 1: other thing, red zone. What do you do with red zone?

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Speaker 1: Because that's part of NFL medium So ESPN, I'm sure

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Speaker 1: they would love red zone and they would sell the

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Speaker 1: shnot out of it once, you don't have control of

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Speaker 1: it anymore.

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Speaker 2: League Now, the league could.

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Speaker 1: Have certain stipulations and everything can protect categories whatever.

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Speaker 2: But I wouldn't run commercials during red zone.

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Speaker 1: But I'm still shocked that you don't have any banner

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Speaker 1: ass Yeah, rarely you see something, but I would have

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Speaker 1: that pumping through there red zone. I don't know what

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Speaker 1: the audience is on a Sunday afternoon. It's not a

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Speaker 1: huge audience compared to what you want as a TV programmer,

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Speaker 1: but whoever's.

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Speaker 2: Watching is hooked.

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Speaker 1: They're mainlining the stuff on a Sunday afternoon like I

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Speaker 1: am when the Texans are not playing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, I mean, and how many people like that

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Speaker 2: are there? There's always been.

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Speaker 4: I've always felt like there's a lot of great content

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Speaker 4: they have. I just don't know how much it costs

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Speaker 4: to put it all together. But like you know, there

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Speaker 4: are top ten shows that they had.

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Speaker 2: Those are great. I love those, but I don't know

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Speaker 2: how much it costs to have they do all.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they licensed some of that out, I think working

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Speaker 1: with NFL films. Look, the library is huge, huge, ye,

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Speaker 1: but if you like old time football, you're still not

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Speaker 1: gonna watch.

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Speaker 2: That all the time.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I love the old air corpl San Diego Chargers,

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Speaker 1: but I'm not going to dig in and watch those games.

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Speaker 5: I know.

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Speaker 1: I'll watch a tweet, you know, a tweet length video.

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Speaker 1: Oh there's two minutes of Dan Fouts throwing a killing Winslow.

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Speaker 2: I love it, but that's it. I'm off on my day.

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Speaker 2: So there is a need for a library of material.

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Speaker 1: But it's not necessarily going to be a heavily viewed

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Speaker 1: thing where it's a sustainable business product in twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: four in broadcasting, I just don't see it. So we'll

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Speaker 1: see what happens to them. All right, Tomorrow, Like we said,

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Speaker 1: Texans OG segment with nd and Anthony Hill, Johnny's got

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Speaker 1: other stuff. We will talk about Stefan Diggs and the

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00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 1: rest of it. You know, it's still gonna come up

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Speaker 1: in the conversation as we get ready for another weekend

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Speaker 1: with the draft three weeks away. Area forty five is next.

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Speaker 1: Have a great night, go Texans.