1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,240 Speaker 1: This is Cowboys Sam, and this is eh John, And 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 1: we've last owed in some amazing stories for you all 3 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:08,639 Speaker 1: the Okay Storytime podcasts. 4 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:11,040 Speaker 2: But before that we got a wrangle, a quick little 5 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 2: two minute out break from those bucking sponsors. 6 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:16,079 Speaker 1: We bucking love so much they paid us the bucks 7 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 1: to help this show stay alive. 8 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:21,760 Speaker 3: My fiance refused to put my name on the mortgage, 9 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 3: so I refuse to pay. 10 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:26,759 Speaker 4: If it ain't got my name on it, then it 11 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 4: ain't mine. 12 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 1: Facts. We learned that in first grade. 13 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 3: For some background, I twenty nine female and my fiance 14 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 3: thirty mail, have been together for ten years. We had 15 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 3: a baby back in twenty twenty and I lost my 16 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:40,519 Speaker 3: job around the same time, or least to Our apartment 17 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 3: was up and my grandma offered for us to move 18 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:44,839 Speaker 3: in with her, so we did. We basically had our 19 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:47,840 Speaker 3: own little apartment rent free. By the way, this comes 20 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 3: from user embarrassing Lemon, and if you want to submit 21 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:53,560 Speaker 3: your own stories, go to the r slash Okay Storytime subbreddit. 22 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 3: So I had thrown the idea of going to school 23 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 3: out there and everyone agreed. 24 00:00:58,360 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: It was a good idea. 25 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 3: My fiance paid for it, and my grandma watched my 26 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 3: baby while I went to class. I graduate this semester. 27 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 3: I did part time for a couple semesters, and my 28 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 3: fiance has been making ninety thousand dollars a year for 29 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 3: the past couple of years, and seventy thousand when we 30 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 3: first moved in. 31 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 1: He saved a good amount of money. 32 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:19,400 Speaker 3: We agreed to wait to get married until I finished 33 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 3: school and we could buy a house together. We've been 34 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 3: looking at houses more seriously for the past couple of months, 35 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 3: and we found one we both love. We started talking 36 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 3: to a mortgage broker and that's when he dropped the 37 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 3: bomb on it. 38 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 1: Being him and only him on the mortgage and the deed. 39 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 1: He said, I wouldn't have anything to do with it. 40 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 3: I didn't say anything in the meeting, but afterwards I 41 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:43,199 Speaker 3: told him I thought we were buying the house together. Yeah, 42 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 3: and I'd pay half the mortgage. He said, I would 43 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 3: be paying half the mortgage, but my name just wouldn't 44 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 3: be on it. 45 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 4: If you're pan half the mortgage, put your name on it, man. 46 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 3: I told him that would mean I had no right 47 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 3: to the house, and he said he knew. He said, 48 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 3: since he saved the forty percent down, that it's own 49 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 3: fair that he has the rights to the house in 50 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 3: case we end things. I told him, if that's what 51 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 3: he wants to do, then I'm not paying for the mortgage. 52 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 3: I said, this isn't a partnership, and if he just 53 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 3: wants his own place, that's fine, but I'm not paying 54 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 3: for it. He called me a b He says that 55 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 3: he paid for everything for the past few years, including 56 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 3: my schooling. I told him I stayed home and watched 57 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 3: our child so we didn't have to pay for daycare 58 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 3: and that ended up saving us money since I would 59 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 3: have only been able to work part time. He said 60 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 3: he didn't care, and that I need to pay for 61 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 3: half since I already agreed to it. Well, which is fine. 62 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 3: Put me on the mortgage. 63 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:34,359 Speaker 4: Put me on the mortgage, then, thank god, you guys 64 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 4: are marriage. 65 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 1: Yet read it? Am I the a hole for refusing 66 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: to pay the mortgage? Not at all? Not at all? 67 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 3: No, don't you even offer to compromise on Nope, See, 68 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 3: that's fine if you want you weren't like, how dare you? 69 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 1: Were like? 70 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 3: Fine, if you want the house, you can have the house, 71 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 3: but you have to pay for the mortgage. 72 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:49,079 Speaker 4: Yeah, if you want it to be just your house 73 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 4: and buy. 74 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 1: Yes, So there's an edit here. 75 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 3: Originally we were supposed to move in with my grandma 76 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 3: for a few months while we saved some money for 77 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 3: renting a new place. I thought maybe it'd be a 78 00:02:57,440 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 3: good idea to go to school so I'd make more 79 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 3: money and we could pentually buy a place. My grandma 80 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:03,959 Speaker 3: said we should stay with her until I finished school 81 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 3: so we could save up for a life together, and 82 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 3: my fiance and I agreed that we would be buying 83 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 3: a house together. He paid for the schooling because we 84 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 3: were getting married and my student loans would have been 85 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 3: our problem, not just mine. He encouraged me to finish 86 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 3: my education so we could give our child a better 87 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:23,080 Speaker 3: quality of life. Another edit for those of you saying 88 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 3: him paying for my schooling would be more expensive than rent. 89 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 3: My schooling in total cost seventeen thousand dollars across five years, 90 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 3: which is thirty four hundred dollars a year on average, 91 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 3: and there is an update. 92 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 1: First, thank you to everyone who commented. 93 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 3: A lot of you had great insight and were very 94 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 3: supportive to those who weren't. I got to see a 95 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 3: perspective of how my fiance might be feeling so thank 96 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 3: you for that too, although some of you were extremely misogynistic. 97 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 3: To answer some questions, my grandma offered to give us 98 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 3: a place to say for a few months while I 99 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 3: looked for a job so we could save some money. 100 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 3: This was the beginning of the lockdown, and no one 101 00:03:58,080 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 3: was sure what the job market would look like in 102 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 3: the few I brought up finishing my degree and my 103 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 3: grandma offered to watch the baby while I was in class. 104 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 3: My fiance said he'd pay for it since we didn't 105 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 3: have to pay for rent or daycare. He called it 106 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 3: my schooling, an investment in our future. I got a 107 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 3: pell grant and a scholarship, so we ended up only 108 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 3: having to pay on average thirty four hundred dollars a 109 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 3: year for the schooling. If I wasn't going to school. 110 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 3: My grandma didn't want us staying there long term. This 111 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 3: was purely her trying to give us a leg up 112 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:28,480 Speaker 3: and help us in our future. She wouldn't have done 113 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:31,159 Speaker 3: so if she knew what my fiance was going to do. 114 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 3: She has said this for the update. I told my 115 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 3: fiance we needed to talk about this arrangement, and I 116 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 3: asked why he changed his mind. All of a sudden, 117 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:40,799 Speaker 3: He said, he worked hard for his money and didn't 118 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 3: want to lose everything if we got divorced. 119 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:46,919 Speaker 4: That's what prenups are for. What prenups are for. 120 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:48,919 Speaker 1: Why did we not? Are we not gonna do that? 121 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:50,840 Speaker 1: Do we not? Are we not doing that? 122 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 4: He's thinking so selfishly because right now, supposedly they're in 123 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 4: her relateous respects, supposedly good right, but his thinking is, well, 124 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 4: I want you to get nothing right now while they're 125 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 4: in a good relationship. He's not even thinking like, oh, 126 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 4: if we got divorced, I would want, you know, it 127 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:07,159 Speaker 4: to be fair and equitable, like hopefully that never happens. 128 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:09,599 Speaker 4: Right now, he's thinking, I want you to get nothing. 129 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I want you to have no rights to the house. 130 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 3: I said that was fair, But he's now putting me 131 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 3: in a position to lose everything if I have zero 132 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:21,279 Speaker 3: rights to the property. He said, I didn't save up 133 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:23,679 Speaker 3: the money, so the house should be his and his alone, 134 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 3: unless I also put down forty percent. I asked if 135 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 3: he consider a prenup that would give him the. 136 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 1: Four put down. Oh yeah, and we'd. 137 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 3: Split fifty fifty the rest of the equity. I said, 138 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 3: this would protect the lump sum he put down, which 139 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 3: was his money, while also giving me equity I'd be 140 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 3: paying for. He said he'd have to think about it, 141 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:45,720 Speaker 3: but he doesn't like the idea of having to sell 142 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 3: if we split. 143 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 4: Why he's only thinking about you, guys divorcing. Don't get 144 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 4: married to a man that literally only thinks about you, 145 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 4: guys divorcing. 146 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:55,840 Speaker 3: I said, then he can get his own place that 147 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:58,160 Speaker 3: he can afford on his own if he doesn't want 148 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 3: me on the title that badly. This one he could 149 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:03,480 Speaker 3: barely afford with just his income. I'm not sure if 150 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 3: he'd even be approved for the mortgage on his own. 151 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 3: To be honest, I also mentioned that I wanted to 152 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 3: do couple's therapy before we got married, and he said no, 153 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 3: that we didn't need therapy, and I just needed to 154 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:15,040 Speaker 3: listen to him. 155 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:17,280 Speaker 1: He's been red pilled. Yeah, he's been red pilled. 156 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 4: We're done. This relationship can't work. Relationship, it cannot work 157 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 4: if he cannot compromise, cannot communicate, and refuses to get therapy. 158 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 3: He's literally rocking with like the biblical definition of like 159 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:30,719 Speaker 3: the husbands and wives. So that was the end of 160 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:33,359 Speaker 3: that conversation. I don't know who this person is. This 161 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:35,599 Speaker 3: is not the man I had a child with. The 162 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 3: man I had a child with massaged me every night 163 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 3: while I was pregnant. He listened attentively to every random 164 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 3: thing I wanted to talk about. He treated me with 165 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 3: the utmost respect, and he was the only person I 166 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 3: wanted with me while I gave birth. He used to 167 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 3: say he could never hurt me or screw me over 168 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 3: because it would hurt our child. I love him so much. 169 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 3: I don't know what happened. Usually when people like boil 170 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 3: their own plans that have been set for a long time, 171 00:06:57,480 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 3: it's because they're trying to create a problem that the 172 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:02,479 Speaker 3: other person has to make a decision about. Yep, there's 173 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 3: a second update. Thank you to everyone who commented on 174 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:07,559 Speaker 3: my last post. You show me that I'm not alone 175 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 3: in this and that other people have gone through the 176 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 3: same and Folks, that's true about almost every. 177 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 1: Situation in life. You're never alone. 178 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 4: No situation, no singular situation is unique. 179 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 3: I also feel vindicated in my decision to not pay 180 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 3: half the mortgage if I'm not on the deed anyways, 181 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 3: Tonight he and I got to talking about the arrangement again. 182 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 3: He said he didn't want to do the prenup I 183 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 3: mentioned in my last update, so I told him my 184 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 3: final offer was couple's therapy and getting married before we 185 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 3: buy a house. I told him we should get a 186 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 3: rental temporarily until we figure everything out and come to 187 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 3: an agreement. The outright refused again. He said he didn't 188 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 3: want to waste money renting. He then said, I'm not 189 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 3: entitled to any of his money, and he won't buy 190 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 3: a house after we marry because I'll just win it 191 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 3: in a divorce prevorce right now, prevorce. 192 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 4: He's already at the trouble buddy, He's already in prevorce mode. 193 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 1: I'm mostly just getting married for the divorce. Yeah, and 194 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 1: I I want to make sure I win it. 195 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 3: Dude, I'm a win I said, fine, we won't get married. 196 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 3: He asked if I was breaking up with him, and 197 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 3: I said, I don't know, but I need face. 198 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 4: He broke up with her a while ago. 199 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 1: He lost his marbles. 200 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 3: He called me a witch and a gold digger, and 201 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 3: told me I owe him thirty thousand dollars, which I 202 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 3: don't know where he got that number from. He said, 203 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 3: I'm used up and no one will ever want me again. 204 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 3: Oh thank god you didn't marry this man. 205 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 1: Yep, yep. 206 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 3: He went on a rant yelling at me for about 207 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 3: three minutes until my grandma came over to us and 208 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 3: told him to leave. He's staying in the night at 209 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 3: a hotel and has called me repeatedly. He's left a 210 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 3: few angry voicemails. I just feel so numb. My baby 211 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 3: is confused and keeps asking why I'm upset and where 212 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 3: their dad went. 213 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 1: I hate this entirely. 214 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 3: To everyone who mentioned he might have gotten in with 215 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 3: the manosphere or red pill content, you were right. I 216 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 3: looked at who he subscribed to on YouTube, and sure 217 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 3: enough I saw Joe Rogan, Fresh and Fit Podcast, Just 218 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 3: Pearly Things and Aiden Ross. I just like interesting stuff, dude. 219 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 3: I don't want to watch stuff people telling me how 220 00:08:57,760 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 3: I need to think, or how I need to act 221 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 3: or out need to be. I just like watching cool 222 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 3: people talk about stuff. 223 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 4: I just don't understand how you can be in a 224 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 4: relationship seemingly successful, have a child and then watch all 225 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:11,680 Speaker 4: of these red pill things that are like if you 226 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 4: want to be an alfa male and have a girl 227 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 4: that loves you, and then believe them like right, you're 228 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 4: in this beautiful like the loving relationship you. 229 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: Already crossed the finish yeah stuff. 230 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 4: Like all of those advice things are usually about trying 231 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 4: to get a woman. You're already at a relationship with her, right, 232 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:31,679 Speaker 4: Like what I don't understand. I don't understand. 233 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 3: Yes, she clearly like looked up to you and respected 234 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 3: you for the you know, the money that you brought 235 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 3: home and for helping her and like was like excited 236 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 3: to build her life alongside you. 237 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. 238 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:42,320 Speaker 4: Like I understand in a messed up way, why like 239 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:46,199 Speaker 4: men who never have never been in a relationship or 240 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 4: are like chronically single, why they get sucked into these 241 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 4: these patterns of thinking because they're angry and lonely and 242 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 4: blame women for the problem stuff. I understand why they 243 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 4: get sucked into these rabbit holes. But like, like a 244 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 4: person in a healthy relationship, I don't get out you 245 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:03,319 Speaker 4: would like succumb to that brainwashing so easily, probably. 246 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 1: Because having a kid is hard. 247 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, And he's like, well, my child doesn't respect me, 248 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 4: and my wife watched me to take care of her 249 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 4: child or something like that. 250 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 3: I don't know, it's safe to say he's falling down 251 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 3: the menosphere. 252 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 1: Rabbit hole. 253 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 3: I know the man I fell in love with is gone, 254 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 3: and there's nothing I can do about it. By the way, 255 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 3: you know what you can do is listen to full 256 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 3: episodes with stories just like this on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, iHeartRadio, 257 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:26,079 Speaker 3: wherever you listen to podcasts. All you gotta do is 258 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:28,839 Speaker 3: search Okay story time, and you've got every episode we've 259 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:31,320 Speaker 3: ever recorded in the palm of your hands, just waiting. 260 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 3: Your ears are just ooh, they're just begging to listen 261 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 3: to him to why don't you just do that? There 262 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 3: were definitely signs I didn't notice. He was always saying 263 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 3: he was saving his money and he was buying a house. 264 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 3: He also said on more than one occasion he was 265 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 3: the man of the house. He got really big on 266 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:48,959 Speaker 3: being a provider and protector. I didn't put it all 267 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 3: together until now. His behavior change has been pretty recent, 268 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 3: like the last eight or nine months. And that's it. 269 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 3: My life's a crap show. Writing it out has been 270 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 3: somewhat therapeutic. Thank you all again for your support. 271 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:01,319 Speaker 1: And that is the end of this. Leave him, Let 272 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 1: him know, man. 273 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 4: I got my boyfriend with his ex, so I took 274 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 4: off the. 275 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 1: Ring and lefto you go girl, Let's go. 276 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 4: And trigger warning for essay as in an unrequited kiss. 277 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:16,679 Speaker 4: Hi all, it's been a week since I left my 278 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:19,679 Speaker 4: fiance's apartment and guilt is starting to eat me up, 279 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 4: so I decided to post and maybe get some outside perspective. 280 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 4: By the way, this comes from Runaway Patat and if 281 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 4: you want to submit your own stories, go to the 282 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 4: r slash Okay storytime separate it. So for background, my 283 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 4: fiance twenty seven male let's call him Jake, and I 284 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:36,440 Speaker 4: twenty seven female, met during the last two years of 285 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 4: high school. His parents are both business people in the city, 286 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 4: but moved to our town for a change of scenery. 287 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 4: I was the first one to actually talk to him 288 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 4: and introduced him to my friends. He was very shy, 289 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 4: but got comfy with us. We eventually became best friends. 290 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 4: Later on, I developed a huge crush on him, but 291 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 4: didn't confess as I was afraid that if my feelings 292 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 4: were unrequited it would affect our friendship. I used to 293 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 4: tease him about us getting married when we grow up, though, 294 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 4: and he would go along with it. We got separated 295 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 4: in college as we took different fields. He took business 296 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 4: ad and I took it, and he attended his dream 297 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 4: school back in the city, which his parents fully supported. I, 298 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 4: on the other hand, attended a local college as we 299 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:14,439 Speaker 4: weren't wealthy enough to get me anywhere. My mom passed 300 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 4: away when I was seven, which destroyed my dad. He 301 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 4: fell into bad habits and only pulled himself together when 302 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 4: he had a health scare when I was twelve. He 303 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 4: had to switch to a lighter job. Because of this, 304 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 4: we're living comfortably, but I didn't want to bother him 305 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 4: for my personal expenses, so I took a part time 306 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 4: job at my aunt's bakery. I also took a scholarship, 307 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 4: which helped my dad with my college expenses. Jake would 308 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:38,440 Speaker 4: go home to visit his parents every weekend. This was 309 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 4: also the time when our friend group would hang out. 310 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 4: As time passed, our friends started to get busier, to 311 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 4: the point that it was just the two of us 312 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:48,680 Speaker 4: who continued hanging out. During this time, he met his 313 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 4: then girlfriend, twenty seven female let's call hurt Claire. He 314 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 4: asked me one weekend if he should confess, and I 315 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 4: told them if that's what would make him happy. A 316 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 4: month later, he brought Claire with him to introduce her 317 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 4: to his parents as well as our friend group. Claire 318 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 4: was visibly tense around me, so I did my best 319 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 4: so she wouldn't be. Jake didn't visit as often anymore, 320 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:09,960 Speaker 4: but if he did, he would always bring Claire with him. 321 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 4: As for me, I still had feelings for him, but 322 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 4: seeing him happy was already enough for me. I respected 323 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 4: his relationship and became more careful with my interactions with him. 324 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 4: We used to chat a lot, but now we only 325 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 4: chatted if he initiated. Whenever the two of them came 326 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 4: to visit, I maintained my distance and avoided crossing any boundaries. However, 327 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 4: one weekend, Jake came alone and asked me if we 328 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 4: could talk. Side note about Jake, He's stupidly honest. When 329 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 4: he wants to say something important, he always wants to 330 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:40,440 Speaker 4: do it personally, not through chat, text, call, or even 331 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 4: a third party. That's why I was so nervous when 332 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 4: he asked me. I met him in our usual hangout spot, 333 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 4: and there he told me that we might not be 334 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 4: able to hang out anymore as often. He told me 335 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 4: that Claire was actually not comfortable with our friendship and 336 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 4: they had already started having some disagreements. He told me 337 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 4: he was sorry that he didn't know what to do. 338 00:13:57,559 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 4: I told him that it was okay and that I 339 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 4: would always be right here if he needed. Once I 340 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 4: got home, I chatted with Claire and apologized for making 341 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 4: her feel uncomfortable. She apologized too, and acknowledged my efforts 342 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 4: for not crossing any boundaries, but she just couldn't shake 343 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 4: the feeling of unease. After that, I cried the whole night. Thankfully, 344 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 4: my dad was there to comfort me. He told me 345 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 4: to let all my pain out, and I promised myself 346 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 4: to never cry for the same reason again. After that, 347 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 4: the communication between Jake and me went down to just 348 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 4: greetings during birthdays and holidays. Just focused on myself and 349 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 4: was able to get my degree. I took some interviews 350 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 4: and landed a job in the city. I had to 351 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 4: move to the city alone at first, but after my 352 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 4: dad relapsed and got hospitalized, I brought him with me. 353 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 4: At first, he didn't want to come, as he hated 354 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 4: living in the city, but I was persistent. I didn't 355 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 4: want him out of my sight. I didn't want to 356 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 4: lose another parent. One afternoon during late October of twenty nineteen, 357 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 4: I was doing some groceries. When I bumped into Jake, 358 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 4: I was so surprised to see him personally after almost 359 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 4: four years. He greeted me and said he was relocating 360 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 4: to this city and was living nearby. He then invited 361 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 4: me to a nearby cafe to catch up, which I accepted. 362 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 4: To be pretty much caught up on everything that happened, 363 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 4: I asked him how he and Claire were doing. He 364 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 4: said that they had broken up around March that year. 365 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 4: He told me they discovered how different their life goals were, 366 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 4: which led to a lot of arguments. They decided to 367 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 4: split up on good terms, but he said it actually 368 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 4: hurt him so much as Claire was his first love. 369 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 4: The air felt tense, so I just shifted the conversation 370 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 4: back to our high school days. He brought up how 371 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 4: I used to tease him about marrying him when we 372 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 4: grew up, and I joked about us being adults now. 373 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 4: At that moment, I just decided to confess to him, Wow, 374 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 4: that I actually had a huge crush on him, and 375 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 4: decided not to confess because I was afraid to lose 376 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 4: the friendship we had. You still have a crush on 377 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 4: him after four years? 378 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 1: I don't think that was the right moment. 379 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 4: That wasn't the right moment, categorically not the right moment. 380 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 4: You still had a crush after four years, like an 381 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 4: active crush. I then let go of it. When he 382 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 4: brought Claire one day as a sign of respect to 383 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 4: their relationship, he again fell silent, then apologized. He said 384 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 4: he just realized how big the impact probably was when 385 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 4: he asked me to go low contact for Claire's sake. 386 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 4: I told him that it was fine and that I 387 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 4: thought that it was the best that we could do 388 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 4: to put Claire at ease. At the time, he was 389 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 4: visibly guilty, so I told him that it was all 390 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 4: in the past now. After that, he offered to drive 391 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 4: me home, which saved me some money on commute. I 392 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 4: thanked him and we started chatting again like the old times. 393 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 4: Our friend group decided to have a reunion around December 394 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 4: that year. It was also when Jake asked me on 395 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 4: a date. He said he did some reflection and realized 396 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 4: that maybe he was actually dating the wrong girl all along. Shocked, 397 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 4: I agreed to the date and it led to another 398 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 4: until we became official. Then came twenty twenty, with the 399 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 4: threat of the virus a view rush, My dad and 400 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 4: I decided to go back to town before the city 401 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 4: locked down. Jake also decided to be with his family 402 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 4: during this time, so all three of us traveled back 403 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 4: to town. Jake introduced me as his girlfriend to his 404 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 4: parents through video call. They already knew me for a 405 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 4: long time, as I was the first friend Jake had 406 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 4: back in high school. They were overjoyed about it, which 407 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 4: made us happy. Mid twenty twenty two, I lost my dad. 408 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:00,120 Speaker 4: I was so mad at myself as I was seeing 409 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 4: the signs. I was begging him to get checked, but 410 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 4: he kept telling me he was fine. We got him checked, 411 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 4: but it was too late. I was so heart broken 412 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 4: losing my remaining parent. Fortunately, my aunt's family and Jake's 413 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 4: family were very supportive. 414 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 1: Don't blame yourself, can't blame yourself for that. Yeah, it's 415 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:17,639 Speaker 1: not you. 416 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:20,160 Speaker 4: Jake even promised on my dad's grave that he would 417 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:22,160 Speaker 4: take care of me for the rest of our lives, 418 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 4: which brought me to tears. After his funeral, we decided 419 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:27,159 Speaker 4: that I'd move to Jake's apartment. We had to go 420 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 4: back to the city as companies started requiring employees to 421 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:31,639 Speaker 4: go back to the office again. And from then on 422 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 4: we were living together. Fast forward to Jake's departments near's 423 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 4: party in twenty twenty four. Their families were invited, but 424 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:40,479 Speaker 4: since Jake's parents weren't able to travel, I was the 425 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 4: only one he could bring. What I didn't expect was 426 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 4: him proposing to me that night. Everyone was in on it, 427 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 4: and it was actually so magical after everything that happened 428 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:51,879 Speaker 4: between us back in college, this is something I never 429 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 4: imagined would happen. 430 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 1: But here we are. 431 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 4: It was actually a dream come true. We decided to 432 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 4: get married in June. I thought everything would be smooth 433 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 4: from here, but unfortunately this is when everything started to 434 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 4: go downhill. Ah any here we are at the problem. 435 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 4: Around March twenty twenty four, I started to see some 436 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 4: changes in Jake. He was a bit distant, I didn't 437 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 4: talk as much before. Worried, I immediately talked to him 438 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:19,679 Speaker 4: about this. He told me that this was actually a 439 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:22,879 Speaker 4: very challenging year for their company, even more than the last. 440 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:25,880 Speaker 4: He blamed it on stress and apologized. I believed him 441 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 4: as I said earlier, He's stupidly honest, but he didn't 442 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 4: change for the better. I think his behavior got worse. 443 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 4: He didn't show any signs of cheating. Although I'd seen 444 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 4: him more glued to his phone, he never really hid 445 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:39,160 Speaker 4: it from me. I knew his pass code and had 446 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 4: my own fingerprint registered on his phone, and he never 447 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:44,479 Speaker 4: changed it or removed it. He never came home at 448 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 4: unreasonable hours, no late night work or any work travel 449 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 4: at all. I had many sit downs with him, and 450 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:53,639 Speaker 4: he always blames stress. Now it's already nearing the end 451 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 4: of April and no plans were created for our wedding. 452 00:18:57,040 --> 00:19:01,120 Speaker 1: What you're two months out of wedding. No, you got 453 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 1: to push it back. 454 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:04,640 Speaker 4: You have to push it back or to do a secret. 455 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 4: Jake asked to talk and asked me to move the 456 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:09,119 Speaker 4: wedding to September. He said he was still pretty much 457 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 4: occupied with work and didn't want to get on our 458 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 4: special day distracted instead of being happy. I understood this, 459 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 4: so we moved the wedding to September, but we had 460 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 4: the same talk during August and move the wedding to 461 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:23,399 Speaker 4: November until we ultimately decided to get married in May 462 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 4: next year. He was very apologetic, and I told him 463 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:28,679 Speaker 4: that I understood, but to please do something for himself 464 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 4: as I'm starting to get worried about him. I stopped 465 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 4: having these conversations with him, as I feel like it 466 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 4: only adds more pressure to him, which I didn't want. 467 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 4: One day in late January twenty twenty five, Jake had 468 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 4: a headache in the morning that he had to take 469 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 4: an ssel for the day. I made sure he had 470 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 4: everything he needed before leaving for work and planned to 471 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 4: check on him in the afternoon. Oh no, oh, no, 472 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 4: I see you. 473 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 1: I remember. 474 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 4: It was raining all day that day. I went back 475 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:55,119 Speaker 4: to check on him during lunch, but was not prepared 476 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:58,439 Speaker 4: for what I was about to witness. When I opened 477 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 4: the door, I saw him in Claire kissing in the 478 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 4: hallway to our bedroom. I froze and just stared back 479 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 4: at them until my vision started to get blurry. My 480 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 4: mind went everywhere, but I was snapped back to reality 481 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:13,119 Speaker 4: when Jake called my name. He was about to approach me, 482 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:15,719 Speaker 4: so I instinctively did a one to eighty and power 483 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 4: walked out of the apartment building. It felt like I 484 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 4: disconnected from my body and it went on autopilot. 485 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 1: That's called depersonalization. 486 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:24,399 Speaker 4: I didn't know where to go, but the goal was 487 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 4: to get far away. I was swimming with thoughts and 488 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 4: lost my awareness. I was pulled back down to Earth 489 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 4: when I slipped and fell down the stairs outside our 490 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 4: apartment building. I slid down from the last four steps 491 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:37,200 Speaker 4: and hit my head on the edge of the step. 492 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:39,919 Speaker 4: I felt an intense pain immediately on my head and 493 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 4: tried rubbing the area, thinking it would lessen the pain, 494 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 4: but panic set in when I saw a blood on 495 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 4: my head. I was so stressed and overwhelmed that I 496 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:49,159 Speaker 4: lost consciousness. Oh my God. Before I blacked out, I 497 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:51,639 Speaker 4: heard Jake calling me, oh my God. I woke up 498 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 4: at a hospital a few hours later. The nurse said that 499 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 4: fortunately I didn't break any bones, but to expect some 500 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 4: pain in my lower body as I had huge bruises. 501 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:02,119 Speaker 4: She said that they already scanned my head, as per 502 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 4: Jake's request, and didn't find anything else, but they had 503 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 4: to stitch my head wound. She said I'd be under 504 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 4: observation overnight and if nothing goes wrong, and then I'll 505 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 4: be able to be discharged the next day. 506 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 3: Well, hey, you know, say what you will about Jake, 507 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 3: but at least he did say in her head, Jack. 508 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 4: I'm wondering. I'm kind of wondering based off of what 509 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 4: me know from the beginning of the story if she 510 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:27,159 Speaker 4: kissed him either way. No. She reminded me to please 511 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 4: inform them if I feel anything wrong so they can 512 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 4: check immediately. I thanked her and she left. As soon 513 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:34,200 Speaker 4: as she left, Jake rushed to my side and held 514 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 4: my hand, which I pulled back. He asked me to 515 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 4: please let him explain, as what I'd seen was a misunderstanding. 516 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 4: I didn't talk nor look at him that time because 517 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 4: my heart would break, but I think he took my 518 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:48,159 Speaker 4: silence as yes. He took a deep breath and started 519 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:52,920 Speaker 4: explaining that during their company wide celebration around March, Oh, 520 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:54,879 Speaker 4: he unexpectedly met Claire. 521 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:55,360 Speaker 3: Uh. 522 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:59,239 Speaker 4: Oh, oh, and he didn't tell you. 523 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:01,680 Speaker 1: Oh, that's a lie, this deceit. 524 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:04,159 Speaker 4: He swore he didn't know Claire was also working in 525 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:06,359 Speaker 4: the same company. He said she was probably in a 526 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:09,919 Speaker 4: different department, which means different location. At first, he wanted 527 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:12,199 Speaker 4: to ignore her, but since they split up on a 528 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 4: good note, he hesitantly greeted her back, and then he 529 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:17,639 Speaker 4: said they started talking again after that something and me 530 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 4: snapped when I heard that, because I knew he started 531 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:23,160 Speaker 4: acting strange around that same time. I cut him off 532 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:25,680 Speaker 4: and asked him if that's the reason why he started 533 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 4: getting distant. He was visibly shocked and was about to 534 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:30,880 Speaker 4: defend himself, but I didn't let him. I told him 535 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:33,639 Speaker 4: that it all made sense now. Why he changed all 536 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 4: of a sudden, why he had to move our wedding 537 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:38,439 Speaker 4: three times, It's because he and Claire met again. I 538 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 4: started ugly crying and asked why he did this to me. 539 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:43,879 Speaker 4: I was kind to him all throughout. Why would he 540 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,360 Speaker 4: take me so I just to drop me back down. 541 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 4: He was trying to comfort me, but I didn't let him. 542 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 4: He then took another deep breath and told me that 543 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 4: we should just continue our conversation next time. When I 544 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:55,679 Speaker 4: calmed down, he told me that I'm currently overwhelmed and 545 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 4: will not accept anything he says because my emotions will 546 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:00,959 Speaker 4: control me. He said he'll give me and he went 547 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,159 Speaker 4: to the bed opposite the room. I tried to compose 548 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,679 Speaker 4: myself as the nurses checked on me every thirty minutes, 549 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 4: I think, but I couldn't. I myself silently crying. Fortunately 550 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 4: none of them pried and just advised me to take 551 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 4: some rest. I just kept crying, and around midnight, I 552 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:17,719 Speaker 4: heard Jake leave the room leaving me alone with my thoughts. 553 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 4: What else could it be? 554 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 2: Then? 555 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 4: Why would he be kissing his ex in our apartment 556 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,680 Speaker 4: in the hallway to our bedroom. Why didn't he tell 557 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 4: me they met again for a whole year? Then? Was 558 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:29,439 Speaker 4: he just blaming everything on stress to cover up. I 559 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 4: didn't see any signs of him cheating. Is he testing 560 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 4: the waters? Is he checking if the two of them 561 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 4: could work things out? And if not, I'll just marry 562 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 4: me instead. I felt like my whole world just crumbled down. 563 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:43,919 Speaker 4: I guessed everything was indeed just a fantasy. After getting discharged, 564 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 4: I knew he was trying to bring up the conversation again, 565 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:49,360 Speaker 4: but he couldn't. We were not talking ever since it happened. 566 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 4: My performance at work dropped, which led my manager to 567 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 4: ask me if there was any problem. I was close 568 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:56,360 Speaker 4: to her as we worked together for so many years now, 569 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 4: so I was comfortable spilling everything out to her. He 570 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 4: told me maybe I should take a leave of absence 571 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,439 Speaker 4: and get into therapy, but since we are only allowed 572 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,679 Speaker 4: to take up two months of leave of absence, I 573 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:08,680 Speaker 4: don't think it'll be enough for me. I also didn't 574 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 4: want to be a burden to my teammates. So I 575 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 4: decided to resign and let her know. She told me 576 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 4: to contact her if I wanted to come back, which 577 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 4: I appreciated. I rendered my last month through February and March, 578 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:21,199 Speaker 4: and Jake didn't know anything about this. I felt so 579 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 4: suffocated and really wanted out. I felt like passing away 580 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 4: every day, and it's like the pain gets more intense 581 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:30,640 Speaker 4: the longer I stay with him. I plan to also 582 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 4: just leave him and go back to town, which I 583 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:35,439 Speaker 4: already let my aunt know. She's currently the caretaker of 584 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:37,679 Speaker 4: our family. Last week, when Jake left for work, I 585 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 4: packed my bags and left. I left a note for 586 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 4: him with the engagement ring and told them all the 587 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:45,159 Speaker 4: things I can't say personally as I'm too hurt to 588 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 4: face him. I arrived at my family home around dusk. 589 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,680 Speaker 4: He tried calling and texting me, but I ignored him all 590 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:52,639 Speaker 4: of it. I just sent him a text that I 591 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 4: safely arrived and to please give me some space. He 592 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:57,119 Speaker 4: replied that he would still be waiting for me to 593 00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 4: give him another chance to talk and will not bother 594 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:01,919 Speaker 4: me anymore. Pushed me to post. This is because his 595 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 4: parents visited me earlier today. His mom fifty seven female 596 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:08,200 Speaker 4: let's call her Anna inform me that Jake also went 597 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 4: home two days after I left. She said he was wrecked. 598 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,440 Speaker 4: She asked what happened, and he only informed them about 599 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 4: what I saw. His parents were obviously shocked, but he 600 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 4: said it was not the full story. When asked, he 601 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:21,679 Speaker 4: didn't want to tell them because he was suspecting that 602 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 4: they would visit me and tell me what he told them, 603 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 4: and he didn't like that. He said he wanted to 604 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:28,679 Speaker 4: tell everything to me by himself and wanted everything to 605 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 4: come from him. Even when they promised they wouldn't tell me, 606 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 4: he wouldn't budge. 607 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,439 Speaker 3: It's like he's like, I ain't look, I have to 608 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 3: master manipulate the situation. 609 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 1: You guys don't have to tell it. 610 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 4: She's just gonna be like, oh, I never want to get. 611 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:42,479 Speaker 1: Back with him if she hears it to me. 612 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:44,640 Speaker 3: Once I figure out how to lay it down, she's 613 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,439 Speaker 3: gonna be in love with me the rest of eternity. Now. 614 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 4: His father, fifty eight male, let's call him John, told 615 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 4: me that they're not here to beg for me to 616 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,160 Speaker 4: give Jake a chance to explain. He said they also 617 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,919 Speaker 4: wanted to know my side. I told them everything that 618 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,359 Speaker 4: happened since March last year. They were silent for a 619 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 4: while that Anna told me that no matter what my 620 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 4: decision will be, they will support me. But they're also 621 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 4: hoping that I find it in my heart to give 622 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 4: Jake a chance, because while it might look suspicious, they 623 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 4: believe that Jake would not hurt. She said that they 624 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:13,720 Speaker 4: will still always be there for me if I ever 625 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 4: needed help, even if I decide to break up with Jake, 626 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 4: that they'll understand. I cried, as they were actually very 627 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 4: kind people and I'm actually sad that this happened to us. 628 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,440 Speaker 4: I started to doubt my decisions, that maybe I should 629 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 4: have let him say his peace. I also asked my 630 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,479 Speaker 4: aunt for advice, but even she was also torn, as 631 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 4: she believes Jake wouldn't do such a thing, that maybe 632 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 4: there's an explanation. She told me to first let every 633 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,199 Speaker 4: negative emotion flow out of me. Then once I have 634 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 4: a clear head, that's when I should make a decision. 635 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 4: I'm so sorry if this got too long, but I 636 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:43,960 Speaker 4: hope I gave the details you guys needed. Am I 637 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 4: the ale for leaving him without giving him a chance 638 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 4: to explain his side. Two days after I posted, I 639 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 4: was invited by my closest cousin, my aunt's eldest twenty 640 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 4: six female call her Gene, to work part time again 641 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:57,879 Speaker 4: in their bakery. She said, my aunt knows I'm not 642 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 4: struggling financially, but maybe it'll help me put my mind 643 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:03,400 Speaker 4: off things. I've been working there for two days now. 644 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 4: I always leave my phone whenever I go to work 645 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 4: so I won't get distracted or be reminded of anything. 646 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:11,679 Speaker 4: But today something caught my eye when I checked for notifications. 647 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 4: When I got home, I saw Claire chatted with OHP, 648 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 4: please read first, don't block me yet all the preview. 649 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 4: I opened it out of curiosity and wondered why it's 650 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 4: in all caps. I decided to just summarize message because 651 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:24,440 Speaker 4: it was a bit long, but for those of who 652 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:28,359 Speaker 4: are interested, I will post her whole message trigger warning essay. Sorry, 653 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,479 Speaker 4: I don't know how to add another flare or the summary. 654 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 4: Laire apologized and said it was all her fault. She 655 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:37,399 Speaker 4: realized Jake's importance months after the breakup and tried finding 656 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,640 Speaker 4: him again. Applied to the same company to meet him, 657 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 4: but was in a different department, so she wasn't able 658 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 4: to meet him. Yet met him for the first time 659 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 4: during their company's party and started messaging in through teams, 660 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,480 Speaker 4: work and messenger. She got more desperate when she found 661 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 4: out he was already engaged with me. She tried using 662 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 4: his weakness against him. Jake doesn't like being talked about 663 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 4: or getting involved in any public scenes for him to 664 00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,479 Speaker 4: engage with her because he started avoiding her. Jake had 665 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:02,159 Speaker 4: enough and she reported her to HR. Last January, she 666 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 4: went to our apartment, confirming that she indeed knew where 667 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 4: we were staying. When Jake didn't come to the office 668 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 4: during D Day. As a last resort, she tried forcing 669 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:11,639 Speaker 4: him to let her in by crying and getting other 670 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,879 Speaker 4: people's attention. To pressure Jake, she begged for him to 671 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:18,440 Speaker 4: love her again, which Jake declined, explaining we're already engaged 672 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 4: and happy. She got mad when Jake refused her hug 673 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:24,399 Speaker 4: and threatened to accuse him of abuse, and Jake begged 674 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 4: her to just leave and that he was done with her. 675 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 4: She tried to get closer, but Jake backed up, but 676 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,520 Speaker 4: he tripped on something and she took the opportunity that 677 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 4: he was distracted and hugged him tight and kissed him. 678 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:36,679 Speaker 4: Then she was shocked when she saw me on the doorway. 679 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 4: Jake yelled at her after I left, which is something 680 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 4: he never did to her before, and said that he 681 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 4: hated her from the bottom of his heart. She finally 682 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 4: had some clarity and realized what she did. She then 683 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 4: apologized again, saying both Jake and I didn't deserve what happened. 684 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 4: She said she can't get over the guilt. She tried 685 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,240 Speaker 4: reaching out to Jake, but he already blocked her everywhere. 686 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 4: I'm actually terrified after reading this. I was trembling when 687 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 4: I finished. I was so mad and disgusted and afraid 688 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 4: at the same time. So she's been pestering Jake for 689 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 4: a whole year and even hissed him unconsensually. I feel 690 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:09,840 Speaker 4: worse now that I didn't let him explain. But I'm 691 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 4: also thinking maybe he asked Claire to take the fall, 692 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 4: or maybe this is just what I think to comfort 693 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,720 Speaker 4: myself to think she was lying that those things didn't 694 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 4: happen to Jake. I don't know. I'm so confused, but 695 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:22,800 Speaker 4: you know, it's never confusing listening to full episodes and 696 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 4: stories just like this. Just go to Spotify, Apple Podcast, 697 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 4: or your favorite podcast app and search a bogus story time. 698 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 4: I was thinking of sending this to his parents, but 699 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 4: I feel like this was also the reason why he 700 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 4: wouldn't tell them anything in the first place. And really, sorry, guys, 701 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 4: I feel like a coward right now. By the way, 702 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 4: I just wanted to thank you guys for sharing your 703 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 4: thoughts on the first post. It helped me set my 704 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 4: mind that maybe I don't really need to hear Jake's side, 705 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 4: But after Claire's message, it kind of threw me back 706 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 4: to the same hole I was in last week. No, 707 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 4: that's it. Yikes, there again. I don't want to like say, 708 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 4: you know that there is no possibility that Jake was 709 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 4: not assaulted incredibly slim. I don't want to say that 710 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 4: because maybe there is a chance and that's totally not okay, 711 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:05,240 Speaker 4: and Claire, you know, that's awful, awful, awful should not 712 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 4: have happened to him. However, there's also a chance that 713 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 4: he's lying to you and he's involving Claire in this. 714 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 3: Now, where's if Claire's so obsessed in wanting this guy back, 715 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 3: where's Claire? 716 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 1: Like, I don't know? At dinner time? 717 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, Like so Claire, Clare just happens to show up 718 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 3: to the house the one day where your husband was like, 719 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 3: oh or night, Well your fiance is like, I've got 720 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 3: a headache, I got to stay home, and now she's there, 721 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 3: and it's like it. 722 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 4: Does well, you're supposed to be out for a while. 723 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:32,960 Speaker 1: It doesn't make any sense. It's convenient. It's it's really 724 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 1: way too convenient. 725 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 3: I saw a comment that said something along the lines 726 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 3: of like, I don't tell my so everything, which is fair. 727 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 3: It's like you don't need to tell your significant other everything, 728 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 3: but like, yeah, if you run into the ex girlfriend 729 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 3: that you guys both have history with, that is very 730 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 3: much like I don't know if cornerstone is the right word, 731 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,720 Speaker 3: but it's like she was heavily involved in y'all's story 732 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 3: how y'all got together. Yeah, I think it'd be pretty 733 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 3: freaking relevant to be like, hey, well you won't believe 734 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 3: who works for my company. Yeah, if it was my partner, 735 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 3: she'd find out day one exactly, unless I was hiding 736 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:05,480 Speaker 3: it from her because I'm like. 737 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 4: And also, he submitted an HR report and never told you. 738 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:09,240 Speaker 4: But that's the end of that story. 739 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,240 Speaker 1: Hey, it's Sam, your og host. Here. We're gonna get 740 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 1: back to the stories. But here's three minutes of ads 741 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 1: from our sponsors. My family made my postpartum unbearable. It 742 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 1: ruined our relationship. Dump them A little backstory for perspective. 743 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 1: I'm the oldest of three sisters, me thirty two female 744 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 1: and sisters twenty seven female and twenty female, and grew 745 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 1: up with strict parents. My mother ruled the house both 746 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 1: by rules and emotions. If she was mad or upset, 747 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 1: everyone felt it. But if I was sad or upset, 748 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 1: the response from my mother was always, that's why you're sad. 749 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 1: Don't be dumb slash stupid. Nothing to be sad and 750 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 1: upset about. So, as you can imagine, my default had 751 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 1: to be happy, and I worked to hide any negative 752 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 1: slash non happy feelings away. I didn't realize I did 753 00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 1: this until I left home and had the space to 754 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 1: just feel my feelings. By the way, this comes from 755 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 1: Independent Low seventy eight forty one and if you want 756 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 1: to submit your own stories, go to our slash Okay 757 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 1: storytime star predits. So I got married to my husband 758 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 1: thirty six mail five years ago, and to be honest, 759 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 1: I'm not sure my family has ever really accepted or 760 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 1: liked my husband. Maybe because of language barrier, or maybe 761 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 1: because we didn't just do everything with my family and 762 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 1: how my family wanted, or maybe because it meant I 763 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 1: was going to create roots one and a half hours 764 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:31,680 Speaker 1: away and not move back to where they live. Not sure, 765 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 1: but I've always had the sense, and I've never really 766 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 1: said anything, but I know he has never really felt 767 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 1: truly welcome into our family by either my parents or sisters. 768 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 1: My husband and I had a long fertility journey. After 769 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:46,440 Speaker 1: going through multiple rounds of IVF, a little miracle embryo 770 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 1: stuck around and I was pregnant. My husband was and 771 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:54,800 Speaker 1: is my person, and he knew how broken I was 772 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 1: after every negative test and bad news we received during 773 00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:00,280 Speaker 1: the journey. My family wasn't the most comforting, so I 774 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 1: typically wouldn't tell them about a procedure or failed try 775 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,720 Speaker 1: until after I had time to process, which makes sense 776 00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 1: totally quick side note. During my journey, my mom made 777 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 1: me feel like I was not trying hard enough or 778 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:14,480 Speaker 1: doing the right things, and at one point told me, 779 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,960 Speaker 1: you don't understand what you are going through hurts me 780 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 1: more than it hurts you. 781 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:21,960 Speaker 2: I never understand the moms who don't get it, because 782 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:22,760 Speaker 2: it's like you. 783 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 1: You went through this, You're a woman, you birth a 784 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,480 Speaker 1: baby into this world. How do you not realize how 785 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 1: traumatic it can be to like lose a potential kid. 786 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,440 Speaker 1: I don't get it. Yeah, a little rough, a little rough, 787 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 1: a little rough for wear. But nonetheless, everyone was so 788 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 1: excited about our little miracle baby when we announce our pregnancy. 789 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:42,520 Speaker 1: My pregnancy was pretty easily, thankfully, in thirty five weeks, 790 00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:44,120 Speaker 1: I was not feeling well and noticed the baby was 791 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 1: not moving as much, and at one point I hadn't 792 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 1: felt him move for twelve hours. Oh. I decided I 793 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,280 Speaker 1: wanted to make sure he was okay, and my husband 794 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 1: took me to the hospital. Unfortunately, things weren't looking good. 795 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 1: The baby had a heartbeat, but wasn't reacting or moving. 796 00:33:57,920 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 1: It was decided that the best course of action was 797 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,040 Speaker 1: to happen emergency sea section that day. I let my 798 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:03,880 Speaker 1: family know what was going on, and they decided they 799 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:05,520 Speaker 1: were going to drive over. I left one and a 800 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:08,120 Speaker 1: half hours away from them. I go into surgery and 801 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:10,720 Speaker 1: I feel them take my baby out, but no cries, 802 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,240 Speaker 1: and it's just a rush of doctors asking my husband 803 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,279 Speaker 1: for babies alive, and he didn't know none of the 804 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,400 Speaker 1: doctors answered, I was a mess, open delivery table, not 805 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:20,560 Speaker 1: knowing if my baby was breathing or alive. After what 806 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:24,240 Speaker 1: felt like an eternity, we heard a cry, Oh my god, 807 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 1: oh man, oh man, that was what your heart. My 808 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:29,960 Speaker 1: heart would beat there, yeah, oh, and they were rushing 809 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:31,800 Speaker 1: him out. I didn't get to see my baby until 810 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,360 Speaker 1: hours later in the nicee you while I was on 811 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:36,800 Speaker 1: the gurney for maybe five minutes. All this to say, 812 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 1: I had a very traumatic birth experience. My baby had 813 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:43,840 Speaker 1: to be literally resurrected, and we weren't sure if he 814 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:45,799 Speaker 1: was going to make it for a few days. I 815 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:49,560 Speaker 1: didn't get to hold him until four days later. 816 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 4: Wow. 817 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:52,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, like, the baby's in the and I 818 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:56,400 Speaker 2: see you, and it's like just an unimaginable scenario, unimaginable 819 00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:57,680 Speaker 2: scenario to be in his parent Yeah. 820 00:34:57,760 --> 00:34:59,719 Speaker 1: My family showed up the following morning to say hi. 821 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 1: But I'll honestly, I don't remember it much. It was 822 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 1: a blur and I wasn't strong enough to get up 823 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:05,320 Speaker 1: yet to make my way to see my baby and 824 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:07,040 Speaker 1: I see you. I delivered in the middle of the 825 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,400 Speaker 1: week and it was supposed to be discharged on Saturday. My 826 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:11,839 Speaker 1: family decided they would come back on Saturday and stay 827 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:13,759 Speaker 1: the weekend at our home. During the rest of my 828 00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,160 Speaker 1: stay at the hospital, I was just focused on being 829 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,439 Speaker 1: able to walk to the Nickeuu so I could sit 830 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,400 Speaker 1: next to my son. We went through a rollercoaster of 831 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:25,200 Speaker 1: emotions and news him starting on seapoth to have him 832 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:30,720 Speaker 1: to be intubated, white blood cell transfusions, MRIs EKGs, ultrasounds. 833 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:32,799 Speaker 1: I was in pieces, trying to focus on our son, 834 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,800 Speaker 1: hoping he would make it out. Finally, Saturday came around 835 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,200 Speaker 1: when I had to be discharged and we knew my 836 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 1: son would have to stay behind in the nick You. 837 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,160 Speaker 1: My family showed up and through the NICKU. I was 838 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,040 Speaker 1: able to take my parents, one at his time, tb 839 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,200 Speaker 1: A Max, by the bedside of the Nicku babies to 840 00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,759 Speaker 1: meet their first grandchild. I decided my sisters could wait 841 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,600 Speaker 1: until Sunday was not overwhelm him or me. My family 842 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:54,320 Speaker 1: went to our house while my husband and I stayed 843 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:56,520 Speaker 1: behind to be with him until late that evening. Now 844 00:35:56,560 --> 00:36:00,560 Speaker 1: Here is where the drama starts. Oh no again, this 845 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:03,480 Speaker 1: is where the drama starts. John, Dude, We've had all 846 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:05,880 Speaker 1: this stuff. What seems like a drama before me. No, 847 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:07,560 Speaker 1: but this is where the drama starts. 848 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:10,560 Speaker 2: I do not want to hear about this mother in 849 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:14,320 Speaker 2: law whoever is ops piece right now, because that is 850 00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:15,799 Speaker 2: an insane thing to do with this time. 851 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:18,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, mind you, I delivered our miracle baby and we 852 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:21,160 Speaker 1: are leaving the hospital without him. He's staying behind in 853 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:24,520 Speaker 1: the hospital with oxygen covered in wires and tubes. We 854 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:28,200 Speaker 1: are devastated. I was broken, my heart ached. We arrive 855 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,040 Speaker 1: home and opened the garage to walk in to find 856 00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:34,560 Speaker 1: the garage was completely reorganized. My family decided that me saying, 857 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,080 Speaker 1: just push things to the side, give me a small 858 00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:39,680 Speaker 1: walkway the driveway to the door into our family room. 859 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,600 Speaker 1: That's after saying no, don't move anything multiple times, my 860 00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:45,279 Speaker 1: mom pressing me, come on, let me move things, and 861 00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:47,160 Speaker 1: I just gave in after a bit because I didn't 862 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,279 Speaker 1: want to argue as she basically the mom took that 863 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:52,400 Speaker 1: to me, and let's reorganize and play tetris with everything 864 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:56,600 Speaker 1: here so they could fit in a car. Oh, oh 865 00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:59,279 Speaker 1: my god. It wasn't even about her, dude. Side note, 866 00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:01,600 Speaker 1: we had moved in less than two months prior and 867 00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:03,560 Speaker 1: we were still organizing, so what they saw as a 868 00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:06,719 Speaker 1: mess was a disorganized chaos where we still knew where 869 00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,080 Speaker 1: things were and had a method to the madness. As 870 00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,560 Speaker 1: we opened the garage, my husband is clearly upset. I 871 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:13,920 Speaker 1: don't blame him, but just tell him to please keep 872 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:15,719 Speaker 1: the peace to his home too. And it's thought the 873 00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,439 Speaker 1: first time they've done things that they think should be done. 874 00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:20,760 Speaker 1: We opened the door and what do I first see 875 00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:23,520 Speaker 1: a large sign with balloons saying congratulation. I really don't 876 00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:27,680 Speaker 1: understand why I'm not celebrating. I'm broken. I'm coming home 877 00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:30,080 Speaker 1: without my baby, a baby that had gone through so 878 00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,360 Speaker 1: much in as short life. I hated that sign, but 879 00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:34,600 Speaker 1: knowing my family, I knew I couldn't say anything because 880 00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:37,000 Speaker 1: someone was going to get but hurt. I sat in 881 00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,279 Speaker 1: the family room to be nice, and my husband went 882 00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:41,839 Speaker 1: upstairs to our room. Now, don't get me wrong, I 883 00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:43,759 Speaker 1: was grateful they took the time to come out and 884 00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:46,600 Speaker 1: be there, but why didn't someone think about the situation 885 00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:48,960 Speaker 1: we were in. After maybe about half an hour, I 886 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,319 Speaker 1: went upstairs to rest just to avoid seeing the sign. 887 00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,400 Speaker 1: When I got to our bedroom, my husband asked if 888 00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,279 Speaker 1: I was okay with the sign. I said no, but 889 00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:57,640 Speaker 1: I couldn't bring up the courage to tell them the 890 00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:01,640 Speaker 1: sign also hurt him. We weren't so yeah, I mean, like, 891 00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:04,000 Speaker 1: how do you not Maybe they got the sign before 892 00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:07,880 Speaker 1: all the difficult pregnancy, but the pregnancy sounded like it 893 00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:10,640 Speaker 1: was you know, almost like like a couple of days 894 00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,080 Speaker 1: of it being like stopping. It was four days, right, 895 00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:14,560 Speaker 1: it was four days in hospital. 896 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:17,399 Speaker 2: Four days and you know, baby's still in the nick 897 00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:21,280 Speaker 2: you and like it seems like where the family should 898 00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:23,920 Speaker 2: be saying like, hey, do you need anything, like you know, 899 00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:25,040 Speaker 2: you know, yeah, how are you doing? 900 00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:26,359 Speaker 1: Do you need space? Do you need you need to 901 00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:28,640 Speaker 1: gabup some food whatever? It's like you should ask what 902 00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:31,560 Speaker 1: you need us to do? Yeah, I don't. I don't 903 00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:34,359 Speaker 1: know if like preempting their needs is a good idea, 904 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:35,880 Speaker 1: especially when you just don't know what they would need, 905 00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:38,840 Speaker 1: except maybe the husband. He decided to tell them politely 906 00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:40,920 Speaker 1: to take it down. I know my husband and he 907 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:44,520 Speaker 1: was likely straightforward and told him to take it down. 908 00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:46,960 Speaker 1: He came up and we cried together, trying to make 909 00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:48,719 Speaker 1: sense of everything that was going on with our son. 910 00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:50,560 Speaker 1: This was the first time we'd been home since we 911 00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:52,640 Speaker 1: drove to the hospital, and it didn't feel right that 912 00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:54,800 Speaker 1: the little guy wasn't with Wake up the next morning 913 00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:56,920 Speaker 1: to head back out to the hospital, make sure we 914 00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,680 Speaker 1: were there early. Here what the day's action plan was 915 00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:02,279 Speaker 1: for our son's care, and hear any updates on his 916 00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:05,360 Speaker 1: condition and find it. As I make my way downstairs, 917 00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:08,480 Speaker 1: it's only my parents with stern faces. I didn't have 918 00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:10,480 Speaker 1: time to deal with it, so we left after getting 919 00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:12,680 Speaker 1: a quick snack and made our way to the hospital. 920 00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:14,960 Speaker 1: The plan had been that my mom would stay behind 921 00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,279 Speaker 1: to look after me, but really it was to have 922 00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:19,920 Speaker 1: someone else to talk to when I got home and 923 00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,240 Speaker 1: make us food. She had offered and we didn't prompt 924 00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:24,400 Speaker 1: her to do this. My father and sisters would stop 925 00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:26,239 Speaker 1: by the hospital and made our son on the way 926 00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:28,440 Speaker 1: back home. I later found out in fact, they were 927 00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:31,520 Speaker 1: not stopping by and we're just leaving straight home. I 928 00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:32,920 Speaker 1: was hurt that they didn't want to meet my son, 929 00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:34,440 Speaker 1: but I just shrugged it off. We decided to go 930 00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:36,360 Speaker 1: back home so I could rest a little and have 931 00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:38,640 Speaker 1: dinner before going back to the hospital for a few 932 00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:41,480 Speaker 1: more hours. That evening, we arrive home to find work 933 00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:44,080 Speaker 1: I'd been done at the house, little things, but clearly 934 00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:46,040 Speaker 1: still work that we had never asked about. What do 935 00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:48,080 Speaker 1: you mean work. My husband walks in and makes a 936 00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,400 Speaker 1: comment something along the lines of, this is my home 937 00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:53,040 Speaker 1: and they need to ask permission before they do things, 938 00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,320 Speaker 1: which I think is totally fairly. They're doing like little 939 00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:57,760 Speaker 1: like DIY projects around the house, Like what are they doing. 940 00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:01,040 Speaker 2: They like essentially like redoing it to where they're like, oh, 941 00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:02,120 Speaker 2: this is like our house. 942 00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:04,400 Speaker 1: This is our house now the house. 943 00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:06,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you're just like, oh, let me mark my 944 00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:10,640 Speaker 2: territory by buying the ugliest like platitude on, like with 945 00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:14,000 Speaker 2: flip flops and a wood board, you know, like the 946 00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:17,960 Speaker 2: live Last Love stuff Yeah, live laugh love or uh 947 00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:26,279 Speaker 2: no shirt, no shoes, please come in now. 948 00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:28,960 Speaker 1: I think that may have been a bit rude, but 949 00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:31,680 Speaker 1: also to be fair, it had been the first time 950 00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:33,879 Speaker 1: and we were all so going through a very difficult time. 951 00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:35,640 Speaker 1: Not sure if that's an excuse, but we were both 952 00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,600 Speaker 1: just hanging on. I understood because I just wanted to 953 00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:40,600 Speaker 1: feel home and it felt comforting to come home to 954 00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:42,239 Speaker 1: find things where he left them and not to have 955 00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:44,920 Speaker 1: to ask where in the world certain things are. I 956 00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:47,440 Speaker 1: sat with my mom and asked why my sisters and 957 00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:49,839 Speaker 1: fathers didn't stop buying, and she let me know they 958 00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:52,120 Speaker 1: felt hurt. My husband told them to take down the 959 00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,879 Speaker 1: sign and pretty much how rude it is. I told 960 00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,200 Speaker 1: her that he didn't mean to be rude, but to understand, 961 00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:00,040 Speaker 1: we weren't celebrating. We had left our son in the 962 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,399 Speaker 1: hospital to try and understand how he felt. I told 963 00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:04,800 Speaker 1: her I wasn't okay mentally and I knew I needed 964 00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:06,640 Speaker 1: to seek therapy. Was my way of trying to let 965 00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:08,719 Speaker 1: her know that I was not doing well. I was 966 00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,120 Speaker 1: barely keeping it together on the inside, and she just 967 00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:13,640 Speaker 1: stayed quiet. She later proceeded to ask me to give 968 00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:16,160 Speaker 1: her a list of things to do, and I tell her, please, 969 00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:18,320 Speaker 1: just make food and nothing else. Just take it easy. 970 00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:20,360 Speaker 1: I honestly don't like when others clean up after me 971 00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:22,840 Speaker 1: in my home or move things around. So maybe you 972 00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:25,160 Speaker 1: should listen to that. She's giving you less work. Just 973 00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:27,520 Speaker 1: just be helpful in the ways that she needs, not 974 00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:30,440 Speaker 1: in the ways that you need to feel helpful. Yeah. Ooh, 975 00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:32,200 Speaker 1: that's a good way to phrase it. Yeah. My mother 976 00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:34,240 Speaker 1: has a history of this, and when she gets bored, 977 00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:36,640 Speaker 1: she will go through people's things and throw things out 978 00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:39,560 Speaker 1: or move things around. This is in her home, but 979 00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:41,880 Speaker 1: when I live there, she would also go through my 980 00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:44,840 Speaker 1: things and throw things out. Her response is, well, you know, 981 00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:46,759 Speaker 1: I can't stay still and I need to do thing. 982 00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:50,120 Speaker 1: After back and forth and likely to comment my husband made, 983 00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:52,600 Speaker 1: she decides to turn my dad around and have them 984 00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:55,120 Speaker 1: come back and pick her up since she didn't feel 985 00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:57,920 Speaker 1: useful or welcome in our home. This point, we're going 986 00:41:57,920 --> 00:41:59,440 Speaker 1: to head back to the hospital. And I was just 987 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:02,800 Speaker 1: crying more out of frustration that she really is only 988 00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:06,279 Speaker 1: willing to give what she wants and what she thinks 989 00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:08,800 Speaker 1: is best, and not what I want or neat. I 990 00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:10,440 Speaker 1: don't have the mental space to deal with her or 991 00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:13,239 Speaker 1: my family, and my only focus is my son. The 992 00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:15,600 Speaker 1: days went by and he got better. He had a 993 00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:17,759 Speaker 1: twenty eight day stay and then I see you. I 994 00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:20,360 Speaker 1: was there every day from nine am to nine pm, 995 00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:23,240 Speaker 1: cheering for him and watching him get stronger. During his stay, 996 00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:26,440 Speaker 1: my parents visited twice and one of those times was 997 00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:30,239 Speaker 1: my twenty female sister joining and also my twenty female 998 00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:32,439 Speaker 1: sister got the opportunity to meet him. Okay, that's great, 999 00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:34,359 Speaker 1: there we go. Now. Context is the and I see 1000 00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:36,640 Speaker 1: you the nick you. Babies here are fragile, and it 1001 00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:38,799 Speaker 1: is required to thoroughly wash your hands every time you 1002 00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:41,880 Speaker 1: went to a room, regardless if you left a minute 1003 00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:44,520 Speaker 1: and came back in. This will be useful context for later. 1004 00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:45,960 Speaker 1: What do you got? What do you got for me? Johnny? 1005 00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:48,080 Speaker 1: And I see you, you got a little I see you. 1006 00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:53,040 Speaker 2: Somebody is going to come in and then they're gonna 1007 00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:55,080 Speaker 2: be like, you know, ma'am, can you wash it ands? 1008 00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:57,399 Speaker 1: And be like I don't need to wash my hands. Oh, 1009 00:42:57,520 --> 00:42:59,160 Speaker 1: I'm like clean, Why are you telling me to wash 1010 00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:00,759 Speaker 1: my hands? I'm like, God, are like, just let me 1011 00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:03,879 Speaker 1: live my life with my dirty hands. Yeah, I see 1012 00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:06,399 Speaker 1: that coming too. I see that coming to No, not good, 1013 00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:09,240 Speaker 1: not what we like to see, not what we want. 1014 00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:12,400 Speaker 1: Wash your dang hands. During his time in the hospital, 1015 00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:14,880 Speaker 1: I would give updates to my mom and things seemed okay, 1016 00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:18,360 Speaker 1: not great, but manageable, and I figured we get past 1017 00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:20,879 Speaker 1: whatever happened, as we usually do. My sisters reached out 1018 00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:23,200 Speaker 1: once to see how he was doing, and later I 1019 00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:25,160 Speaker 1: found out that they only reached out to me after 1020 00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:27,440 Speaker 1: my husband asked them to reach out because he knew 1021 00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:31,760 Speaker 1: I wasn't doing well gay for feeling the genuine family support. 1022 00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:33,680 Speaker 1: We were finally able to take our baby home on 1023 00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:37,800 Speaker 1: a feeding tube, but nonetheless home. We got discharged on 1024 00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,120 Speaker 1: the Sunday afternoon, and we're happy to have him home, 1025 00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:43,239 Speaker 1: but also happy to have a week to ourselves to 1026 00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:46,160 Speaker 1: get into a rhythm with our new little family of 1027 00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:49,520 Speaker 1: three before we had any visitors. The following weekend, my 1028 00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:51,760 Speaker 1: husband and I decided that we would allow our immediate 1029 00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:54,600 Speaker 1: family to visit only, and to not overwhelm us or 1030 00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:57,920 Speaker 1: our son, we would have one family each day. I 1031 00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:01,080 Speaker 1: quickly texted it to my mother to ask what day 1032 00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:03,560 Speaker 1: they would prefer to come over to meet our son, 1033 00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:06,240 Speaker 1: since we were going to have one day for each family, 1034 00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:09,080 Speaker 1: and her response was, we'll go next weekend instead. I 1035 00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:12,239 Speaker 1: asked why, and she said I hoped to see them 1036 00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:15,400 Speaker 1: that weekend. She later got back to me and said, okay, 1037 00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:18,799 Speaker 1: your dad said we could go Saturday. Looking back, I 1038 00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:22,200 Speaker 1: regret asking why and feel like I beg them to 1039 00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:25,080 Speaker 1: come to see my son. Saturday comes around and they 1040 00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:26,719 Speaker 1: let me know they are on their way. They show 1041 00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:28,359 Speaker 1: up and I asked them to wash their hands if 1042 00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:30,799 Speaker 1: someone wanted to hold the baby. Both my sisters just 1043 00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:32,879 Speaker 1: point to my mother. She held them and we made 1044 00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:35,640 Speaker 1: small talk, and then an hour later they get up 1045 00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:38,160 Speaker 1: and say they're leaving. Honestly, I was expecting them to 1046 00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:41,319 Speaker 1: stay longer and was planning to get lunch delivered. They 1047 00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:44,360 Speaker 1: just said, they have something else to do. You have 1048 00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:48,400 Speaker 1: something better to do than to see see the child 1049 00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:52,080 Speaker 1: of your I mean, this is, this is the child, grandchild, 1050 00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:54,759 Speaker 1: This is your grandchild the first time is and not 1051 00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:56,560 Speaker 1: just your grandchild, but your grandchild that. 1052 00:44:56,560 --> 00:45:01,800 Speaker 2: Has gone through this insane journey nearly alive, barely alive 1053 00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:04,279 Speaker 2: to be able to make it to the spot, and 1054 00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:06,480 Speaker 2: you're not, just like I mean, I would be balling 1055 00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:09,640 Speaker 2: my eyeballs out, grateful that I could just you know, 1056 00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:11,440 Speaker 2: see and hold the baby. 1057 00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:13,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, we walked them out and not gonna lie. I 1058 00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:15,680 Speaker 1: cursed them out of my head and was bummed, but 1059 00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:18,960 Speaker 1: I felt it was my fault for pushing their visit. 1060 00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:20,839 Speaker 1: I wasn't going to invite them over again until they 1061 00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:23,120 Speaker 1: reached out that they wanted to visit. And next day 1062 00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:25,200 Speaker 1: the Sunday rolls around and we had plans for my 1063 00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:27,560 Speaker 1: husband's family to come visit late that afternoon, and I 1064 00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:30,680 Speaker 1: received a call that morning from my uncle mother's brother 1065 00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:32,760 Speaker 1: that they were on their way over to see the baby. 1066 00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:34,600 Speaker 1: I was thinking it back because I had invited them, 1067 00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:36,759 Speaker 1: and I clearly told my mother that they were going 1068 00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:39,640 Speaker 1: to have a day for each family, so she knew 1069 00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:42,200 Speaker 1: my in laws were going to be coming that Sunday, 1070 00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:44,319 Speaker 1: and clearly she was the one that told them. We 1071 00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:46,560 Speaker 1: made it work and didn't mention anything to them since 1072 00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:49,160 Speaker 1: I figured they wouldn't overlap with my in laws. It 1073 00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:52,040 Speaker 1: wasn't what I had planned, but both my husband and 1074 00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:54,840 Speaker 1: I were grateful for the visit, and it was honestly 1075 00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:57,200 Speaker 1: a better visit than what I had thought and what 1076 00:45:57,239 --> 00:46:00,239 Speaker 1: I had had with my family the day prior. A 1077 00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:02,279 Speaker 1: few weeks go by and my mother and I talk 1078 00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:05,120 Speaker 1: or text once in a while, just checking on how 1079 00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:07,120 Speaker 1: my son is doing. But randomly in the middle of 1080 00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:10,719 Speaker 1: the week, the doorbell wearings. I wasn't expecting anyone. My 1081 00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:13,480 Speaker 1: husband had been working from home since is time, off 1082 00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:16,400 Speaker 1: ended my parent and my younger sister. I was surprised 1083 00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:18,919 Speaker 1: and just figured they were dropping by for a while 1084 00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:20,720 Speaker 1: to see my son. They come in and I again 1085 00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,880 Speaker 1: asked them to wash their hands before holding lesh touching 1086 00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:26,359 Speaker 1: my son. My husband was in a meeting or something 1087 00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:28,520 Speaker 1: and just texted him my parents are here. They let 1088 00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:30,399 Speaker 1: him know so you can come down the stairs when 1089 00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:32,600 Speaker 1: he got a chance. Then they held my son briefly 1090 00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:34,640 Speaker 1: and put him back down. When my father says to 1091 00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:36,920 Speaker 1: me and turns to me and says, you know your 1092 00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:40,600 Speaker 1: mom has feelings too, and they were hurts. I was confused, 1093 00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:43,080 Speaker 1: clearly not knowing what he was talking about. He goes 1094 00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:45,600 Speaker 1: on to say, they felt unwelcome in our home and 1095 00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:47,840 Speaker 1: all they did was try to help, And how do 1096 00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:50,600 Speaker 1: you think they feel? But again, you weren't helping in 1097 00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:52,600 Speaker 1: a helpful way. You were helping in the way that 1098 00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:56,600 Speaker 1: you thought you wanted to help. It. It's different. It's different, 1099 00:46:56,719 --> 00:47:00,920 Speaker 1: like being being helpful is not about doing things for 1100 00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:05,520 Speaker 1: another person. Being helpful is about doing things that are 1101 00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:08,160 Speaker 1: helpful to this person. Yes, you know, I'm not even 1102 00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:10,920 Speaker 1: two months postpartum and I have my father raising his 1103 00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:13,399 Speaker 1: voice at my home. I am taken aback and told them, 1104 00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:15,839 Speaker 1: I don't know what you're talking about. Our focus has 1105 00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:18,480 Speaker 1: been on my son, and my priority is my family, 1106 00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:21,040 Speaker 1: my son and my husband. I've been through so much 1107 00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:23,440 Speaker 1: and that is where my focus is. I'm sorry feelings 1108 00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:25,880 Speaker 1: got hurt, but you have to understand where our heads 1109 00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:29,080 Speaker 1: have been. He just keeps on digging on how rude 1110 00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:31,960 Speaker 1: we've been and making me out like the worst daughter, 1111 00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:34,839 Speaker 1: and that I'm ungrateful, and honestly starts feeling heated. When 1112 00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:37,400 Speaker 1: my husband comes downstairs. We were speaking in Spanish, so 1113 00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:40,080 Speaker 1: we can't quite understand and everything, but they are just 1114 00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:42,719 Speaker 1: saying that they are leaving. I've just had a whiplash. 1115 00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:45,279 Speaker 1: I wasn't expecting visitors. They come in a few minutes later, 1116 00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:48,279 Speaker 1: it's them raising their voice at me and bedrading me. 1117 00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:49,799 Speaker 1: I get a call from my father the next day, 1118 00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:51,759 Speaker 1: who never calls me, to tell me to call my 1119 00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:54,160 Speaker 1: mother and apologize because she isn't doing well. She needs 1120 00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:56,840 Speaker 1: love and support, and you have been treating her poorly. 1121 00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:59,399 Speaker 1: I have made them feel bad and have made them 1122 00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:02,200 Speaker 1: feel already because I asked them to wash their hands. 1123 00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:05,040 Speaker 1: This line was mentioned a few times. I'm bewildered because hello, 1124 00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:07,239 Speaker 1: it's a new baby and you should be washing your hands. 1125 00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:09,880 Speaker 1: And also, remember your grandson was in the n I 1126 00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:12,359 Speaker 1: see you with a nick you born premature and came 1127 00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:15,920 Speaker 1: out with a feeding tube. You should want to wash 1128 00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:18,319 Speaker 1: your hands on your own to protect him. You've been 1129 00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:20,200 Speaker 1: in the car one and a half hours, like, come 1130 00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:22,600 Speaker 1: up the conversation with him, isn't going anywhere, and it's 1131 00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:24,200 Speaker 1: like talking to a walk He only wants me to 1132 00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:26,680 Speaker 1: apologize because his wife isn't doing well and when she 1133 00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:29,239 Speaker 1: isn't happy, it affects him, and well, you can't have that, 1134 00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:32,000 Speaker 1: you know, happy wife, happy life. I pretty much hurry 1135 00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:35,480 Speaker 1: and end the call because my son had a blowout. Thankfully, 1136 00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:40,080 Speaker 1: a little nothing like a little diaper action sometimes save today. 1137 00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:43,440 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Saday, Sorry, baby's pooping. Yepry baby, I got 1138 00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:45,959 Speaker 1: it out. I got I would love to stay here 1139 00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:50,800 Speaker 1: and talk, but smell that. That's the sound of responsibility 1140 00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:54,000 Speaker 1: calling fresh. I gotta go, I gotta go. You know, 1141 00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:57,000 Speaker 1: sometimes a shitty situation is the best kind of situation 1142 00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:59,160 Speaker 1: you can have. Well, to be nice, I call him 1143 00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:01,520 Speaker 1: on the next day, checking in to see how she's doing, 1144 00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:03,719 Speaker 1: and FaceTime with her so you can see my son. 1145 00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:05,960 Speaker 1: It goes fine. It's very superficial. I talked to her 1146 00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:08,200 Speaker 1: at a later point and she makes it known that 1147 00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:10,560 Speaker 1: they want to visit my cousin and that also they 1148 00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:12,319 Speaker 1: had a baby around the same time as me, and 1149 00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:14,839 Speaker 1: that they stayed there for hours, and how my dad 1150 00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:17,640 Speaker 1: loved holding her baby and how he fed him, did 1151 00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:19,399 Speaker 1: I mention that up to this point, my father had 1152 00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:24,040 Speaker 1: not held my son and declined every offer that I made. 1153 00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:26,920 Speaker 1: She also throws in how my cousin and her husband 1154 00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:30,799 Speaker 1: were just gushing over how grateful they were for the visit. 1155 00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:33,440 Speaker 1: Maybe I read into it too much, but that rubbed 1156 00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:36,319 Speaker 1: me so wrong. I have no problem with them visiting her, 1157 00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:38,439 Speaker 1: and I think it's great because she doesn't have any 1158 00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:41,040 Speaker 1: other family in the States. It's the way she told me, 1159 00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:43,480 Speaker 1: in the little details that she pointed out as a 1160 00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:45,960 Speaker 1: way to try and jab me, that rubbed me wrong. 1161 00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:48,640 Speaker 1: We just go by, barely communicating with anyone of my family. 1162 00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:51,239 Speaker 1: Holiday season is upon us and nothing from them. A 1163 00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:53,440 Speaker 1: few weeks before Christmas, we get a call on the 1164 00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:56,040 Speaker 1: Sunday morning asking if we'll be home because they are 1165 00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:58,359 Speaker 1: coming over for a visit. I say, sure, great, they 1166 00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:00,400 Speaker 1: want to come visit the grandson. I figured. Well. My 1167 00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:03,319 Speaker 1: family arrived along with my middle sister's boyfriend, and they 1168 00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:06,240 Speaker 1: came to announce their engagement that happened the day prior. Honestly, 1169 00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:07,880 Speaker 1: I was so happy for them. He is such a 1170 00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:09,719 Speaker 1: great guy and she's lucky to have him. But the 1171 00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:12,000 Speaker 1: whole visit was my parents mostly talking to my sister 1172 00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:15,000 Speaker 1: and her fiance in Spanish, which my husband can't totally understand, 1173 00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:17,279 Speaker 1: and we both felt like the third wheel. It was 1174 00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:20,239 Speaker 1: just them having conversations and us staring and or looking 1175 00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:22,280 Speaker 1: at each other, and they left after a couple of hours. 1176 00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:24,120 Speaker 1: That's got to be a little weird. Like, yeah, it's 1177 00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:28,680 Speaker 1: like hello, hello, Hello, I am hi. It's like a 1178 00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:32,239 Speaker 1: podcast that you don't understand that you're just it's listening to. 1179 00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:36,640 Speaker 2: It's like you're watching a podcast, except it's people in 1180 00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:38,560 Speaker 2: real life and they're just ignoring you. 1181 00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:40,960 Speaker 1: And they're speaking the language you don't understand. Next time 1182 00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:43,480 Speaker 1: I saw my parents was really the weekend after New 1183 00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:46,480 Speaker 1: Year's I had told my husband that the next time 1184 00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:48,479 Speaker 1: we saw them, I wanted to clear the air because 1185 00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:52,120 Speaker 1: I hated having this dysfunctional relationship and wanted them to 1186 00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:54,640 Speaker 1: be involved in my son's life. Well, they arrive and 1187 00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:57,319 Speaker 1: it's awkward, We do small talk, they play and hold 1188 00:50:57,360 --> 00:51:00,200 Speaker 1: our son. Over all a nice visit given the strained relationship, 1189 00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:02,520 Speaker 1: and towards the end of their visit, I tell them 1190 00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:04,440 Speaker 1: I want to clear the air and tell them I 1191 00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:07,160 Speaker 1: know things haven't been well and I want to talk 1192 00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:09,359 Speaker 1: things out. So we can move past it and have 1193 00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:12,160 Speaker 1: them be more involved in my son's life. That conversation 1194 00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:17,600 Speaker 1: went downhill right away. It was a lot of how 1195 00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:20,719 Speaker 1: we were ungrateful and rude. Some key highlights. I was 1196 00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:28,160 Speaker 1: the cause for them considering divorce. Wow, what I did 1197 00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:31,440 Speaker 1: just caused issues in their marriage. Side note, I recently 1198 00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:34,600 Speaker 1: remembered something that happened when I was seven or eight, 1199 00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:36,640 Speaker 1: my mother taking me with her on a date with 1200 00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:39,560 Speaker 1: another man while my dad was working and telling me 1201 00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:42,120 Speaker 1: that I had to act like I was her sister. 1202 00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:45,240 Speaker 1: There was a time period when she requested I didn't 1203 00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:48,399 Speaker 1: call her mom when out in public if my dad 1204 00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:51,000 Speaker 1: wasn't around, since it made her feel old and likely 1205 00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:54,359 Speaker 1: because men would realize she had children. Other times, she 1206 00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:56,399 Speaker 1: was flirty with other men and enjoyed the attention from 1207 00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:58,760 Speaker 1: a married man who had been close to my parents 1208 00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:01,479 Speaker 1: and never really shut that Ottens down. Oh my god, 1209 00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:05,920 Speaker 1: we're getting some backstory. Holy moly, this is still going on. 1210 00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:09,040 Speaker 1: We made them feel dirty by constantly asking them to 1211 00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:12,680 Speaker 1: wash their hands. They always shower and wear their best rags, 1212 00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:15,280 Speaker 1: and for me to ask them to wash their hands 1213 00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:18,279 Speaker 1: was rude. They even asked my aunt and uncle if 1214 00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:20,759 Speaker 1: we asked them to wash their hands. I don't understand 1215 00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:23,840 Speaker 1: what they went through when my son was the nickue. 1216 00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:26,400 Speaker 1: They constantly help other people with home improvements, and those 1217 00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:28,719 Speaker 1: people are grateful, but we weren't. A note. All the 1218 00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:31,920 Speaker 1: scenarios they mentioned were people asking them for help, not 1219 00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:36,360 Speaker 1: them randomly doing things without being prompted. My mother mentioned 1220 00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:38,920 Speaker 1: how it hurt so much to hear me say I 1221 00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:41,920 Speaker 1: was prioritizing my family, husband son, and how it was 1222 00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:44,759 Speaker 1: karma for her since that's what she told her mom 1223 00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:47,279 Speaker 1: when she was defending me about some family drama years ago. 1224 00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:50,560 Speaker 1: She now realizes she was wrong for saying what she 1225 00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:53,600 Speaker 1: did while making it known that karma will get me. 1226 00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:56,279 Speaker 1: After the conversation went nowhere, we really were just going 1227 00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:58,680 Speaker 1: in circles, and when I tried to explain how some 1228 00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:01,480 Speaker 1: of the things they did may me feel, their response 1229 00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:03,719 Speaker 1: was deflect or just put themselves down, saying I know 1230 00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:06,000 Speaker 1: I'm stupid and I don't think or I'm sorry for 1231 00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:07,560 Speaker 1: being dumb. We just haven't figured out how to be 1232 00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:09,959 Speaker 1: in laws. I just sort of shut down and try 1233 00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:11,839 Speaker 1: to move on and tell them I wish they were 1234 00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:13,520 Speaker 1: more involved in my son's life since we don't have 1235 00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:15,719 Speaker 1: a lot of family and he only has one grandma. 1236 00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:19,439 Speaker 1: Since my husband's mom had passed away, decided to head 1237 00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:21,479 Speaker 1: out and that was it. We didn't talk for months. 1238 00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:25,680 Speaker 1: It sounds like this relationship is not getting any better. Yeah, 1239 00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:27,319 Speaker 1: I guess I could have also reached out, but I 1240 00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:29,840 Speaker 1: never felt supported or like they tried to understand me. 1241 00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:31,879 Speaker 1: And maybe I've been wrong and was the a hole. 1242 00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:34,560 Speaker 1: My husband has always supported my decision and has encouraged 1243 00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:36,120 Speaker 1: me to reach out, but I think I'm just stubborn 1244 00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:38,600 Speaker 1: and also don't know what to say anymore. Through all this, 1245 00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:41,239 Speaker 1: I've talked to my youngest sister, twenty female, once and 1246 00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:44,239 Speaker 1: she expressed how crappy the situation has been and that 1247 00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:46,960 Speaker 1: she doesn't understand how things got here, But then she 1248 00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:49,000 Speaker 1: stopped replying to me. It seems like, OHP is losing 1249 00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:51,839 Speaker 1: all their family. Yeah. My other sister has never reached out. 1250 00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:54,040 Speaker 1: We've never been super close, and she always had the 1251 00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:56,520 Speaker 1: same mentality of my mother for everything. I wish they 1252 00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:58,840 Speaker 1: would have reached out to at least ask about their grandson, 1253 00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:01,080 Speaker 1: her nephew, not even about but I think it's too 1254 00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:03,719 Speaker 1: much to ask. That last conversation was in January and 1255 00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:05,799 Speaker 1: now it's the week before Mother's Day. We've seen them 1256 00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:08,080 Speaker 1: once at a family event where we stopped by for 1257 00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:10,680 Speaker 1: a few hours and acted fake like we all got along. 1258 00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:12,759 Speaker 1: I tried inviting them for Easter so they could spend 1259 00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:14,680 Speaker 1: time with my son, but they had just made plans 1260 00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:16,600 Speaker 1: and wouldn't make it. I know the sister has a 1261 00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:18,560 Speaker 1: date for a wedding, and it wouldn't surprise me if 1262 00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:21,760 Speaker 1: I'm not invited. It's her day, and I respect her decision, 1263 00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:23,120 Speaker 1: but I'm not going to lie and say it doesn't 1264 00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:25,400 Speaker 1: hurt me. I really don't even know why my sisters 1265 00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:26,960 Speaker 1: have beef with me. By the way, you should never 1266 00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:30,160 Speaker 1: have beef with us because you could listen to full 1267 00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:33,080 Speaker 1: stories just like this. Go to Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or 1268 00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:35,919 Speaker 1: your favorite podcast app and search. Okay, storytime, there's more 1269 00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:38,360 Speaker 1: to the story, and I'm just gonna steamroll right into it. 1270 00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:40,440 Speaker 1: But John, any thoughts before we get to the end. 1271 00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:43,120 Speaker 2: I mean, pretty much what we said insane experience to 1272 00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:48,120 Speaker 2: go through, and in way even more insane. How disrespectful 1273 00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:51,440 Speaker 2: and unempathetic the family is. And Opie deserves ten trillion, 1274 00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:54,480 Speaker 2: ten trillion percent better A grade A grade. 1275 00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:56,560 Speaker 1: My question, do you read it the final question where 1276 00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:58,360 Speaker 1: my husband and I a holes? Should I go and 1277 00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:01,320 Speaker 1: apologize for hurting everyone's feelings? Is there something I'm not seeing? 1278 00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:03,560 Speaker 1: Maybe I'm acting too much like the victim here. At 1279 00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:05,759 Speaker 1: this point, I just feel disappointed and sad about the 1280 00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:08,319 Speaker 1: whole postpartum journey, where I thought it would have brought 1281 00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:11,160 Speaker 1: my family closer together because there was a baby. I 1282 00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:13,080 Speaker 1: know I still need to do more therapy to fully 1283 00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:15,239 Speaker 1: cope with what happened with my son. I resent my 1284 00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:17,920 Speaker 1: family for lack of support in my postpartum journey and 1285 00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:20,319 Speaker 1: making me deal with more drama than I needed. I 1286 00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:21,920 Speaker 1: would like to have a relationship with them, but I 1287 00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:24,640 Speaker 1: don't know what that will look like or even how 1288 00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:27,000 Speaker 1: to begin moving forward. I'll just be seeing them again 1289 00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:29,040 Speaker 1: in a month at a family event and just assume 1290 00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:31,080 Speaker 1: we will be faked, because that's what we do in 1291 00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:33,560 Speaker 1: front of others, and that's that's where it ends. That's 1292 00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:35,960 Speaker 1: where it ends. It's sad, it's sad to see, but 1293 00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:39,359 Speaker 1: you know, I do think, Look, you should look at 1294 00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:42,120 Speaker 1: all people in your life. You know, is this person 1295 00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:46,360 Speaker 1: bringing me joy? Right? Is this person making my life better? 1296 00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:48,800 Speaker 1: Like easier? Are they giving me the kind of energy 1297 00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:49,839 Speaker 1: that I want to my Yeah. 1298 00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:52,200 Speaker 2: I mean it's like my hope for Opie is that 1299 00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:56,600 Speaker 2: after it's kind of like the dust settles and Opie's 1300 00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:59,160 Speaker 2: like been away from their family for long enough to like, Oh, 1301 00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:03,319 Speaker 2: I actually I'm not like going crazy and people aren't 1302 00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:05,680 Speaker 2: like rearranging my garage randomly. 1303 00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:08,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, what would happen if you just didn't have contact 1304 00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:11,920 Speaker 1: with him? Probably life would be a lot simpler. Yeah, 1305 00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:15,120 Speaker 1: but that's where that story ends. Hey, it's John, your 1306 00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:15,560 Speaker 1: og host. 1307 00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:15,719 Speaker 3: Here. 1308 00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:17,080 Speaker 2: We're gonna get back to the stories, but here's a 1309 00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:19,560 Speaker 2: quick three minute break of ass from our sponsors. My 1310 00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:22,719 Speaker 2: husband's grandparents hate me. I can't help but talk back. 1311 00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:24,360 Speaker 2: Gotta snap back. 1312 00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:26,879 Speaker 1: Yep. 1313 00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:29,640 Speaker 2: I just got married on Saturday, congrats, and we had 1314 00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:33,080 Speaker 2: a very small, micro backyard wedding seventeen people. Groom and 1315 00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:35,880 Speaker 2: I aren't close to any extended family members, but he 1316 00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:38,520 Speaker 2: has semi good relationships with his grandparents, so they came. 1317 00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:41,320 Speaker 2: By the way, this comes from the coolest being around. 1318 00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:43,080 Speaker 2: And if you want to submit your own stories, go 1319 00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:46,120 Speaker 2: to the r slash Okay Storytime subur Beautiful for reference. 1320 00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:48,400 Speaker 2: I am covered in tattoos and have a lot of 1321 00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:51,640 Speaker 2: facial piercings. My husband does not. His sister does, though. 1322 00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:55,960 Speaker 2: Funnily enough, grandparents are very old school religious, conservative Trump supporters, 1323 00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:58,239 Speaker 2: and I couldn't be more on the opposite end of 1324 00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:00,560 Speaker 2: the spectrum of their beliefs. One of the reasons we 1325 00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:02,920 Speaker 2: decided to have a small family wedding was because we 1326 00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:05,680 Speaker 2: have a lot of LGBTQ friends and a few gender 1327 00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:07,960 Speaker 2: diverse friends, and we could not in good faith put 1328 00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:10,880 Speaker 2: them in a situation where a very outspoken woman would 1329 00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:14,000 Speaker 2: totally say some terrible things to them. Grandma speaks her 1330 00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:16,680 Speaker 2: mind and has no filter. Let's just say that we 1331 00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:20,400 Speaker 2: dance this fine line during the planning of not wanting 1332 00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:23,240 Speaker 2: to cater to the wedding around two people everyone else 1333 00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:26,880 Speaker 2: invited does not share the same beliefs, but also being respectful, 1334 00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:31,439 Speaker 2: both families are funny, wacky and unserious, just super chill, 1335 00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:34,600 Speaker 2: cool people. Bunch of hippies and liberals. We had so 1336 00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:38,480 Speaker 2: many silly bits on our wedding that everyone loved. Above them, 1337 00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:40,640 Speaker 2: who cares your wedding day? 1338 00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:41,120 Speaker 1: Don't love it? 1339 00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:44,400 Speaker 2: Granny's angry and you don't want to make Granny angles. 1340 00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:46,680 Speaker 2: Oh God, Now, the first thing Grandma said to me 1341 00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:49,280 Speaker 2: after the ceremony, was I met your mother. I see 1342 00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:52,080 Speaker 2: where you get you're crazy from. It was said somewhat lighthearted, 1343 00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:55,600 Speaker 2: but it wasn't. It was someone else who overheard who 1344 00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:58,840 Speaker 2: said disrespecting the bride and the mother of the bride. 1345 00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:01,000 Speaker 1: Within seconds of the ceremony, and is wild. 1346 00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:04,120 Speaker 2: She said A very few other rude, passive, aggressive comments 1347 00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:06,760 Speaker 2: about me slashed the wedding that I was told afterwards. 1348 00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:08,320 Speaker 1: I swore a few times in the vows. It was 1349 00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:08,800 Speaker 1: not intentional. 1350 00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:10,480 Speaker 2: I was just nervous how they came out, which is 1351 00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:12,600 Speaker 2: so not a big deal to either of our families, 1352 00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:16,680 Speaker 2: but grandparents were furious. Our officiator emphasized our beliefs in science, 1353 00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:19,120 Speaker 2: parallel universes and infinity. 1354 00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:19,760 Speaker 1: In the cosmos. 1355 00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:22,560 Speaker 2: That's funny, I think interstellar, quoting Carl Sagan and all 1356 00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:25,560 Speaker 2: that jazz. I know that they didn't like that. I 1357 00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:27,400 Speaker 2: also made a point when we thanked the guests for 1358 00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:30,080 Speaker 2: coming after the speeches, when my husband said, you know, 1359 00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:32,240 Speaker 2: we don't believe in that divine stuff. 1360 00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:34,000 Speaker 1: But it's magical how everything came together. 1361 00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:37,080 Speaker 2: It was supposed to storm ended up being a perfect day, 1362 00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:40,440 Speaker 2: et cetera, et cetera, and I took the mic and said, yeah, 1363 00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:43,640 Speaker 2: we believe in science. Sure at that point that truly 1364 00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:47,800 Speaker 2: wasn't necessary and an intentional dig but Grandpa scoffed super loud, 1365 00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:51,440 Speaker 2: and I was just so over it. Yea, Honestly, I'm like, 1366 00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:52,959 Speaker 2: why did we invite them to the wedding? 1367 00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:56,800 Speaker 1: It seems like everyone else it was obligation. Yeah, yeah, 1368 00:58:57,440 --> 00:58:59,240 Speaker 1: you know, this is their last wedding. We got a 1369 00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:02,880 Speaker 1: you know, the the clock is ticking on alms and 1370 00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:05,240 Speaker 1: their tickers are ticking. Oh goodness. Hey, you know, maybe 1371 00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:09,280 Speaker 1: if you make it as a crazy enough wedding vow goodness, 1372 00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:11,240 Speaker 1: they might you know, you might eliminate a problem. 1373 00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:15,720 Speaker 2: ProDance alert from life alert to inheritance alert. Post wedding, 1374 00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:17,920 Speaker 2: my husband is conflicted. He wants me to have a 1375 00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:21,360 Speaker 2: relationship with his grandparents, especially his grandma, and I've told him, 1376 00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:23,800 Speaker 2: if it wasn't clear before, that her and I mutually 1377 00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:26,560 Speaker 2: don't like each other, and it's clear now. Grandparents are 1378 00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:29,360 Speaker 2: in town until tomorrow, and they invited just my husband 1379 00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:31,280 Speaker 2: out to dinner tonight, and I can't help but think 1380 00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:33,920 Speaker 2: they're gonna send him down and say something about spending 1381 00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:36,480 Speaker 2: his life with me. Sure, I was being disrespectful, but 1382 00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:39,040 Speaker 2: she was too. I told him that beyond just being 1383 00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:42,840 Speaker 2: his grandparents, I am the exact version of someone conservative, religious, 1384 00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:43,600 Speaker 2: Trump supporters to. 1385 00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:45,720 Speaker 1: Spies, and I'm okay with that. I'm not everyone's cup 1386 00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:46,000 Speaker 1: of tea. 1387 00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:48,040 Speaker 2: I understand why he wants us to like each other, 1388 00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:50,800 Speaker 2: but it's just not gonna happen. I know this post 1389 00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:53,240 Speaker 2: will start some stuff, especially with people that are right wing, 1390 00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:54,880 Speaker 2: and that's not the point of this post. It's just 1391 00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:57,200 Speaker 2: a rant about how two people force together due to 1392 00:59:57,240 --> 01:00:00,280 Speaker 2: marriage despite everything about what the other ones stand on for. 1393 01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:02,400 Speaker 1: I wish I could be a fly on the wall 1394 01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:02,880 Speaker 1: with their. 1395 01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:05,840 Speaker 2: Dinner tonight, and I know my husband will not tell 1396 01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:08,440 Speaker 2: me all that was said to protect my feelings. 1397 01:00:08,560 --> 01:00:11,040 Speaker 1: We haven't edit. Holy Cannoli, this post blew up. 1398 01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:12,680 Speaker 2: I showed it to my husband and he agreed with 1399 01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:15,160 Speaker 2: everyone and said it's not right for him to expect 1400 01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:17,600 Speaker 2: us to have a relationship and forced me to compromise 1401 01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:18,200 Speaker 2: my morals. 1402 01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:20,480 Speaker 1: After the dinner, I got the full scoop. 1403 01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:24,000 Speaker 2: Husband asks his mom how long grandma and Grandpa will 1404 01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:25,680 Speaker 2: be in town for if they said one more day, 1405 01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:27,200 Speaker 2: and husband said that I want to see them one 1406 01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:30,280 Speaker 2: more time Mom said let's do dinner, my name wasn't 1407 01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:32,080 Speaker 2: explicitly brought up or. 1408 01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:32,840 Speaker 1: Not brought up. 1409 01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:35,200 Speaker 2: And I'm happy about that because now I don't have 1410 01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:37,680 Speaker 2: to come up with an excuse not to go, because 1411 01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:40,440 Speaker 2: no way in f would I go. I'm not offended 1412 01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:43,520 Speaker 2: in the slightest. Seriously, does this post not show how 1413 01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:45,000 Speaker 2: much I don't want to spend time with them? 1414 01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:45,320 Speaker 1: Loll? 1415 01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:47,280 Speaker 2: Husband said he is going to make it clear to 1416 01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:49,440 Speaker 2: them to stop disrespecting me, and I believe him. 1417 01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:51,240 Speaker 1: So we've got, you know, husband kind of. 1418 01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:53,960 Speaker 2: Being like, hey, like yeah, let me, you know, make 1419 01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:56,360 Speaker 2: sure that they're not like digging on you and stuff 1420 01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:58,880 Speaker 2: like that, and it seems seems like we're getting getting 1421 01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:01,800 Speaker 2: some good little learnings here. Husband is also a leftist too, 1422 01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:05,440 Speaker 2: but has the big old grandma confliction. Like many Trump supporters, 1423 01:01:05,480 --> 01:01:07,760 Speaker 2: they always felt to those feelings, but only recently were 1424 01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:10,520 Speaker 2: given the okay by having President to be houred about them, 1425 01:01:10,600 --> 01:01:12,200 Speaker 2: so it's been really hard for him to come to 1426 01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:14,760 Speaker 2: terms with it. I don't remember the subreddit, but I 1427 01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:17,360 Speaker 2: know there's one on here about the true grieving and 1428 01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:20,120 Speaker 2: trauma of losing a family member to MAGA. Considering my 1429 01:01:20,320 --> 01:01:22,479 Speaker 2: entire family is left extended as well. I have zero 1430 01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:24,360 Speaker 2: frame of reference for that, he feels. I say, if 1431 01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:26,640 Speaker 2: anyone in the family wants to be in the colts, 1432 01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:27,560 Speaker 2: I would cut them out. 1433 01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:29,360 Speaker 1: But that's easy for me to say. 1434 01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:31,800 Speaker 2: I straight up called Grandma a witch yesterday and he 1435 01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:32,520 Speaker 2: got upset. 1436 01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:36,200 Speaker 1: Whoa op? Oh, hold on, are we are. 1437 01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:40,960 Speaker 2: We tiptoeing closer and closer into a whole territory over here. 1438 01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:44,640 Speaker 1: It's just like they're old people like just I don't know. 1439 01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:48,640 Speaker 1: Just again, it causes more drama to go say Granny's 1440 01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:50,600 Speaker 1: an a hole than it does to just ignore and 1441 01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:50,960 Speaker 1: move on. 1442 01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:53,320 Speaker 2: He said, yeah, she can say witchy things, but don't 1443 01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:55,440 Speaker 2: call it. After showing him the post and the comments, 1444 01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:57,720 Speaker 2: I think I finally got it through to him that, truly, 1445 01:01:57,760 --> 01:01:59,800 Speaker 2: anyone who believes in the hoard things Trump. 1446 01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:01,400 Speaker 1: Done is not a nice person objectively. 1447 01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:03,640 Speaker 2: Last thing, I know, everyone on Reddit is quick to 1448 01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:05,880 Speaker 2: jump on the divorce your spouse they're a bad person train. 1449 01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:09,440 Speaker 2: But come on, y'all, I get it he needs to 1450 01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:11,800 Speaker 2: grow a backbone in this. But to say our marriage 1451 01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:14,320 Speaker 2: is doomed from the start is wild. Y'all know about 1452 01:02:14,560 --> 01:02:17,720 Speaker 2: point zero zero five percent of our twelve year relationship 1453 01:02:17,720 --> 01:02:19,840 Speaker 2: at a number two guys, I don't want to go 1454 01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:21,320 Speaker 2: out to eat with them. I don't know how much 1455 01:02:21,320 --> 01:02:23,160 Speaker 2: clear I can be about it. Husband knows I don't 1456 01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:25,320 Speaker 2: want to go. Me going would mean he'd be forcing 1457 01:02:25,360 --> 01:02:27,200 Speaker 2: me to go, which he isn't doing because he knows 1458 01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:28,800 Speaker 2: I don't want to. For love of God, I can't 1459 01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:30,720 Speaker 2: believe people can read this whole thing and think I'm 1460 01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:33,400 Speaker 2: offended that I wasn't invited, or that it's somehow. 1461 01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:35,040 Speaker 1: Wrong that my husband didn't bring me. Lol. 1462 01:02:35,120 --> 01:02:39,760 Speaker 2: And we've got some relevant and top comments commentation Number one, 1463 01:02:39,840 --> 01:02:43,000 Speaker 2: politics are morals? Your husband is demanding you compromise yours 1464 01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:44,680 Speaker 2: for the sake of his grandmother and not demanding the 1465 01:02:44,680 --> 01:02:47,480 Speaker 2: same of her. Why, Obie says, Dang, it's a really 1466 01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:49,919 Speaker 2: really good point. After a few years, I finally shut 1467 01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:52,080 Speaker 2: him down from what he and his siblings say they're 1468 01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:54,959 Speaker 2: from a different time. When I finally snapped and said, 1469 01:02:55,080 --> 01:02:57,760 Speaker 2: my ninety two year old grandma voted for both Reagan 1470 01:02:57,800 --> 01:02:58,440 Speaker 2: and Obama. 1471 01:02:58,720 --> 01:03:01,200 Speaker 1: The longer you're alive, says you have for not growing 1472 01:03:01,240 --> 01:03:04,840 Speaker 1: up and changing your morals. Opie's laying it down. Commage 1473 01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:06,560 Speaker 1: to number two says your husband needs to stick up 1474 01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:08,640 Speaker 1: for you. Compage a. Number three says husband needs to 1475 01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:09,400 Speaker 1: be stepping up here. 1476 01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:12,440 Speaker 2: He should ask outright why his new wife isn't invited. 1477 01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:14,920 Speaker 2: He needs to shut that crap all the way down, 1478 01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:17,320 Speaker 2: whether you attend or not. And come to number four 1479 01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:18,920 Speaker 2: says why are you not going to the dinner? Why 1480 01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:20,920 Speaker 2: is the husband not saying? You should slash can goo 1481 01:03:21,120 --> 01:03:23,320 Speaker 2: tag along and have a husband act surprised that you 1482 01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:26,360 Speaker 2: weren't invited. But Grandma, you said I wasn't invited and 1483 01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:28,120 Speaker 2: said you were taking me out for dinner. We are 1484 01:03:28,160 --> 01:03:30,880 Speaker 2: now one, so I included my bride. Of course she came, 1485 01:03:30,920 --> 01:03:33,560 Speaker 2: we're newlyweds. Why wouldn't you be included? Two became one. 1486 01:03:33,640 --> 01:03:36,280 Speaker 2: Remember we are cleaved together. Where I go, she goes, 1487 01:03:36,320 --> 01:03:38,040 Speaker 2: where she goes I go. He should be standing up 1488 01:03:38,040 --> 01:03:41,040 Speaker 2: for you. No dinner with grandma without the wife. Wife 1489 01:03:41,120 --> 01:03:43,160 Speaker 2: comes first. Unfortunately, looks like this is going to be 1490 01:03:43,160 --> 01:03:45,440 Speaker 2: your first married test slash lession and it'll be a 1491 01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:47,600 Speaker 2: hard one. I'm sorry, op I hope your husband stands 1492 01:03:47,680 --> 01:03:49,760 Speaker 2: up for you and the marriage. We have an update, 1493 01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:53,840 Speaker 2: but I feel like Opie literally said like sometimes the 1494 01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:56,760 Speaker 2: universe throws your bone and they're like, hey, they don't 1495 01:03:56,760 --> 01:03:58,920 Speaker 2: want to invite me. I don't want to go, and 1496 01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:00,360 Speaker 2: Opie's like okay, like. 1497 01:04:00,440 --> 01:04:02,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, but and I don't like these coms of like 1498 01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:06,120 Speaker 1: no you should go, Like like why, yeah, he doesn't 1499 01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:08,000 Speaker 1: want to go? Yeah, I don't. I don't. I don't 1500 01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:11,360 Speaker 1: get that. I don't get that. I think every everything 1501 01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:14,720 Speaker 1: that I'm seeing about this family is give them space, 1502 01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:17,840 Speaker 1: and maybe the husband should also his side of the 1503 01:04:17,840 --> 01:04:20,520 Speaker 1: family a little space too. Yeah, didn't expect this to 1504 01:04:20,520 --> 01:04:23,280 Speaker 1: blow up a YadA YadA all that stuff, but seriously lol. 1505 01:04:23,520 --> 01:04:26,880 Speaker 2: Thankfully Grandma doesn't use Reddit, so he won't see it. 1506 01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:30,800 Speaker 2: Go there we go, baby, Like I said in the 1507 01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:32,800 Speaker 2: and it's of the original post. Even if I wasn't 1508 01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:34,960 Speaker 2: invited to the dinner, I wouldn't go, which is why 1509 01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:37,000 Speaker 2: my husband never pushed the issue with them or me. 1510 01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:40,240 Speaker 2: It saved me an excuse and excuse I already had 1511 01:04:40,280 --> 01:04:43,000 Speaker 2: because I genuinely had dungeons and dragons last night when 1512 01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:44,840 Speaker 2: they went out. Didn't feel the need to include that 1513 01:04:44,880 --> 01:04:47,040 Speaker 2: because I didn't think that was the points everyone would 1514 01:04:47,080 --> 01:04:50,320 Speaker 2: get hung up on. But our campaign played online, so 1515 01:04:50,440 --> 01:04:52,600 Speaker 2: I was home when they picked my husband up evidently. 1516 01:04:52,680 --> 01:04:55,480 Speaker 2: They immediately asked where I was. Husband said, you never 1517 01:04:55,560 --> 01:05:00,320 Speaker 2: explicitly invited her. They said they thought it was implied. Whatever. Again, 1518 01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:02,680 Speaker 2: I didn't want to go. Plus I was busy already, 1519 01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:05,080 Speaker 2: So they came back and I was still playing Dungeons 1520 01:05:05,080 --> 01:05:07,360 Speaker 2: and Dragons. Husband comes in and asks if I can 1521 01:05:07,400 --> 01:05:10,240 Speaker 2: take a steck to step outside. They wanted to say goodbye, 1522 01:05:10,440 --> 01:05:13,040 Speaker 2: Q to the biggest hug from both of them, followed 1523 01:05:13,040 --> 01:05:15,680 Speaker 2: by what they should have said at the wedding, but 1524 01:05:15,760 --> 01:05:18,800 Speaker 2: I guess better late than never. It was so amazing, 1525 01:05:18,880 --> 01:05:22,720 Speaker 2: beautiful ceremony. You looked stunning, et cetera, et cetera. 1526 01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:25,720 Speaker 1: People can come around. We're finally here, granny. 1527 01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:30,000 Speaker 2: Granny has taken her walker and shuffled around the block 1528 01:05:30,040 --> 01:05:32,520 Speaker 2: and is finally turning the up to the other side. 1529 01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:35,960 Speaker 1: Learning can always happen there. We go to see. Yes. 1530 01:05:36,040 --> 01:05:38,320 Speaker 2: Grandma then took my hand and said, I hope you 1531 01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:40,440 Speaker 2: know I wasn't offended by any of the swearing, and 1532 01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:42,760 Speaker 2: I hope I didn't come across that way. I loved 1533 01:05:42,760 --> 01:05:46,360 Speaker 2: your ceremony in vows. Okay, wow. They immediately followed by 1534 01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:49,440 Speaker 2: I should have said wacky about your mom, not crazy heck, 1535 01:05:49,600 --> 01:05:50,320 Speaker 2: I'm crazy. 1536 01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:51,560 Speaker 1: I didn't mean it in a bad way. 1537 01:05:51,640 --> 01:05:53,960 Speaker 2: Your mom is a character, same with your father. I 1538 01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:57,120 Speaker 2: see where you get your sparkle from. I was shocked, 1539 01:05:57,200 --> 01:06:00,000 Speaker 2: but smiled and nodded. She gave me another big hug. 1540 01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:03,040 Speaker 2: Go back inside. Immediately asked my husband what the f. 1541 01:06:03,400 --> 01:06:06,160 Speaker 2: He didn't tell me what he said, but he said 1542 01:06:06,200 --> 01:06:10,080 Speaker 2: he laid it down pretty effing clearly about how crappy 1543 01:06:10,120 --> 01:06:12,920 Speaker 2: what they did was, and how moving forward they cannot 1544 01:06:12,920 --> 01:06:16,240 Speaker 2: disrespect our beliefs like that that's. 1545 01:06:16,160 --> 01:06:17,680 Speaker 1: Go okay. 1546 01:06:19,560 --> 01:06:23,880 Speaker 2: For wifey oh yes, and if they wanted a relationship 1547 01:06:23,880 --> 01:06:26,040 Speaker 2: with him, that was the bottom line. 1548 01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:29,520 Speaker 1: I told dude, I was waiting for this moment. 1549 01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:32,640 Speaker 2: I also wouldn't be surprised if their daughter, mother in law, 1550 01:06:32,800 --> 01:06:35,920 Speaker 2: hippie liberal cool also yelled at them. It really hurts 1551 01:06:35,920 --> 01:06:38,840 Speaker 2: how many people were crapping on my husband in that post. 1552 01:06:39,120 --> 01:06:41,600 Speaker 2: It was a Monday night after work after a small 1553 01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:45,200 Speaker 2: DIY wedding. He wasn't leaving his new bride side in 1554 01:06:45,280 --> 01:06:47,760 Speaker 2: some grandiose offensive way like come on. 1555 01:06:47,800 --> 01:06:49,960 Speaker 1: Y'all are so dramatic. Well, one of the reasons I. 1556 01:06:49,920 --> 01:06:52,160 Speaker 2: Married this man was that he's not the type to 1557 01:06:52,200 --> 01:06:54,560 Speaker 2: cause a scene especially at a big day, knowing how 1558 01:06:54,640 --> 01:06:57,560 Speaker 2: Grandma is. Even if he took her aside during the wedding, 1559 01:06:57,600 --> 01:06:59,880 Speaker 2: it would have caused a ruckus. I knew it would 1560 01:06:59,920 --> 01:07:02,960 Speaker 2: be handled and it was. Dude, this is what great 1561 01:07:03,040 --> 01:07:05,480 Speaker 2: trust in a in a partnership and relationship like. 1562 01:07:05,560 --> 01:07:07,680 Speaker 1: She's like, oh, I know you got it, so I'm not. 1563 01:07:07,760 --> 01:07:09,880 Speaker 2: I'm not, I'm not worried in this, in this awesome 1564 01:07:09,920 --> 01:07:13,640 Speaker 2: dude and fully delivered, big wully delivered. When I hope 1565 01:07:13,720 --> 01:07:16,200 Speaker 2: everyone reads that edits and saw why deep down and 1566 01:07:16,240 --> 01:07:19,400 Speaker 2: originally made my husband sad. He is having difficulty coming 1567 01:07:19,400 --> 01:07:22,160 Speaker 2: to terms with finding out whose grandparents truly are. They 1568 01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:24,880 Speaker 2: never were outward of their bigotry before a certain president 1569 01:07:24,880 --> 01:07:27,240 Speaker 2: made it okay to do so. I was wrong calling 1570 01:07:27,280 --> 01:07:29,400 Speaker 2: his grandma a witch to his face. I was hurt 1571 01:07:29,440 --> 01:07:31,640 Speaker 2: and he knew that, but it was a low blow. 1572 01:07:31,680 --> 01:07:32,600 Speaker 2: He's no longer sad. 1573 01:07:32,840 --> 01:07:33,360 Speaker 1: He gets it. 1574 01:07:33,480 --> 01:07:35,920 Speaker 2: He also knows that her apology, whether real or not, 1575 01:07:36,080 --> 01:07:38,680 Speaker 2: doesn't mean I'm going to have a relationship necessarily with 1576 01:07:38,720 --> 01:07:43,600 Speaker 2: her and Grandpa. By the way, what you are legally 1577 01:07:43,640 --> 01:07:46,640 Speaker 2: obligated by law to have a relationship with us and 1578 01:07:46,840 --> 01:07:50,760 Speaker 2: to spend as much earhole time with us as humanly possible. 1579 01:07:50,840 --> 01:07:52,720 Speaker 2: The best way to do that is go to Spotify, 1580 01:07:52,760 --> 01:07:55,680 Speaker 2: Apple iHeart and search Okay story time and listen to 1581 01:07:55,760 --> 01:07:57,760 Speaker 2: our two thousand episode catalog. 1582 01:07:58,000 --> 01:08:01,760 Speaker 1: Samuel. Any final thought before we get into this final chapter. 1583 01:08:01,800 --> 01:08:07,280 Speaker 1: I'm glad that Hubby finally stood up and said no, yeah, yeah, 1584 01:08:07,800 --> 01:08:09,600 Speaker 1: it was about Darnheim. 1585 01:08:09,160 --> 01:08:12,040 Speaker 2: And I love how both sides kind of came to 1586 01:08:12,080 --> 01:08:14,840 Speaker 2: the table and was like, hey, let me like, you know, 1587 01:08:15,080 --> 01:08:17,400 Speaker 2: appreciate you and I you know essentially kind of like 1588 01:08:17,640 --> 01:08:20,800 Speaker 2: apologize and try to be empathetic. And then OPI was like, yeah, 1589 01:08:20,840 --> 01:08:22,519 Speaker 2: you know, same here, like I shouldn't have said this, 1590 01:08:22,720 --> 01:08:25,599 Speaker 2: Like just a really cool kind of like coming together 1591 01:08:26,160 --> 01:08:29,439 Speaker 2: and you know, seeing the other person and deploying a 1592 01:08:29,439 --> 01:08:30,680 Speaker 2: lot of kindness. 1593 01:08:30,800 --> 01:08:32,040 Speaker 1: We love kindness. 1594 01:08:32,120 --> 01:08:35,400 Speaker 2: So one last thing, we didn't invite any friends to 1595 01:08:35,439 --> 01:08:38,320 Speaker 2: the wedding, just my bff, the officiatet. Like I said 1596 01:08:38,320 --> 01:08:40,240 Speaker 2: in the post, they were multiple reasons we did a 1597 01:08:40,280 --> 01:08:44,080 Speaker 2: small family only wedding, only one of them being not 1598 01:08:44,240 --> 01:08:47,599 Speaker 2: bringing our LGBTQ friends around them. There were other more 1599 01:08:47,640 --> 01:08:50,880 Speaker 2: important reasons, including when you have a small, relatively easy 1600 01:08:50,880 --> 01:08:53,920 Speaker 2: wedding asap due to my father's ailing health, other reasons. 1601 01:08:53,960 --> 01:08:56,439 Speaker 2: I don't really want to mention we didn't solely plan 1602 01:08:56,560 --> 01:09:00,759 Speaker 2: our wedding. Guest invites catered around the grandparents. Quick relevant 1603 01:09:00,800 --> 01:09:01,519 Speaker 2: top comments coming. 1604 01:09:01,600 --> 01:09:01,920 Speaker 1: Number one. 1605 01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:04,040 Speaker 2: Hey, I'm asking out of curiosity why it took twelve 1606 01:09:04,080 --> 01:09:07,519 Speaker 2: years to marry. Are you guys are really young? Opie says, yes, 1607 01:09:07,560 --> 01:09:09,920 Speaker 2: we met very young. We weren't in a huge rush 1608 01:09:09,960 --> 01:09:12,320 Speaker 2: to get married either. My father's health started declining, so 1609 01:09:12,400 --> 01:09:14,360 Speaker 2: we decided to finally tie the nut. 1610 01:09:14,400 --> 01:09:15,280 Speaker 1: Com To number two. 1611 01:09:15,360 --> 01:09:17,640 Speaker 2: Now it's time to have a barbecue and celebrate with 1612 01:09:17,760 --> 01:09:20,680 Speaker 2: all your friends, Opie said, that's the plan, doing a 1613 01:09:20,720 --> 01:09:24,160 Speaker 2: friend's only shitten dig in January. Plus, I'm hosting a 1614 01:09:24,200 --> 01:09:28,439 Speaker 2: Dungeons and Dragons game as my all digits included bachelorette party. 1615 01:09:28,680 --> 01:09:31,360 Speaker 1: You wood woot. Comge number three glad how you read 1616 01:09:31,360 --> 01:09:31,960 Speaker 1: the riot Act? 1617 01:09:32,120 --> 01:09:34,479 Speaker 2: It seems have a wonderful marriage and commat Number four 1618 01:09:34,520 --> 01:09:37,040 Speaker 2: says your husband handled it perfectly. I know you never 1619 01:09:37,080 --> 01:09:39,280 Speaker 2: doubted him, not once. My prediction is you will go 1620 01:09:39,360 --> 01:09:40,720 Speaker 2: the distance and thanks for shit. 1621 01:09:40,880 --> 01:09:42,720 Speaker 1: Love it. I love love a lot of great things here. 1622 01:09:42,720 --> 01:09:45,280 Speaker 1: I love love, love, love, man love. We love it. 1623 01:09:45,560 --> 01:09:48,559 Speaker 1: When you love it, it's a great thing. Oh okay, well, 1624 01:09:48,720 --> 01:09:50,479 Speaker 1: I feel like we're in a lot better place than 1625 01:09:50,520 --> 01:09:50,920 Speaker 1: we started. 1626 01:09:51,120 --> 01:09:54,519 Speaker 2: I agree, I love a lot, a lot of amazing 1627 01:09:54,600 --> 01:09:55,920 Speaker 2: lessons learned along the way. 1628 01:09:56,040 --> 01:09:57,000 Speaker 1: That's where that story ends.