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Speaker 1: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre.

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Speaker 2: What is up, straight Fire Fan? It's me Jason McIntyre,

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Speaker 2: Straight Fire for Friday, March the seventh. Oh, we have

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Speaker 2: a phenomenal podcast to take you to the weekend. You know,

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Speaker 2: it's March Madness.

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Speaker 3: Loo.

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Speaker 2: I love college basketball. The tournament is selection Sundays, like

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Speaker 2: what two weeks away. It's phenomenal. You gotta love it.

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Speaker 2: So to preview March Madness, you've got Jeff Goodman. Previously,

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Speaker 2: he's been at Fox ESPN. I think he was a Yeah,

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Speaker 2: he's been everywhere covering college troops for like twenty five

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Speaker 2: thirty years. He joins he's with the Field of sixty eight,

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Speaker 2: his own venture, which is pretty cool working for himself.

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Speaker 2: But before we get to that, I just quickly have

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Speaker 2: to talk about Lakers one thirteen Nicks one oh nine

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Speaker 2: in overtime, absolutely thriller at Crypto. The Lakers were in

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Speaker 2: rough shape. You know, you could tell Austin Reeve's first

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Speaker 2: game back. He can't throw it in the ocean. I think

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Speaker 2: he was like one for twelve in regulation before a

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Speaker 2: big time shot in overtime. He was on a minute's

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Speaker 2: restriction or something, but he just didn't look good, right, uh,

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Speaker 2: Ruey's still out, Durri and Phinney Smith couldn't make a three.

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Speaker 2: At halftime, the Lakers were four of twenty two from deep,

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Speaker 2: four to twenty two. You're not winning any games. No,

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Speaker 2: actually there wasn't half time. That was like a late

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Speaker 2: third quarter four twenty two from three, and then they

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Speaker 2: finish ten of forty two, meaning they went ten for

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Speaker 2: the last twenty fifty percent from deep. That's you know,

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Speaker 2: gave Vincent Luka nanchic. But overall, the big story here

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Speaker 2: is the Knicks played really really well. They kind of

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Speaker 2: blew the lead there late with Luca hitting a bomb

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Speaker 2: and Lebron a couple and gave Vincent threw in one

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Speaker 2: or two. And then you go to overtime and adding

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Speaker 2: insult to injury, Jalen Brunson goes down. Brunson was unguardable.

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Speaker 2: He switched on to Luca at at least half a

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Speaker 2: dozen times in the game. Sorry, in the fourth quarter

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Speaker 2: in overtime and we just attack, and you know, Austin

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Speaker 2: Reeves tried, he couldn't stop it, and they would get

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Speaker 2: Jackson Hayes. Lebron decided to take Jalen Brunson for two possessions.

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Speaker 2: He ended up fouling him like Brunson is just unguardable.

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Speaker 2: He had thirty nine points in forty one minutes, but

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Speaker 2: then turned his ankle badly and shot the free throws.

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Speaker 2: He made them, of course, because he's so good at

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Speaker 2: the line, and then he exited the game and it

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Speaker 2: looked like a bad ankle twist. We know what the

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Speaker 2: Knicks narrative is going to be today. Those guys, Oh,

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Speaker 2: they can't win games against good teams. They never will,

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Speaker 2: They're not a contender. Blah blah blah. Folks, these losses

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Speaker 2: aren't the worst thing in the world. They're not because

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Speaker 2: currently the Knicks are third. Okay, they can't catch the

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Speaker 2: Celtics for second, so they're then best case scenario, if

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Speaker 2: they tread water the rest of the way, they'll face

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Speaker 2: the Celtics in the second round. They're not beating the

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Speaker 2: Celtics and certainly not in the second round. Okay, now,

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Speaker 2: maybe we can make an argument for conference finals. You know,

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Speaker 2: Knicks superstar players start cooking the Celtics, Oe Colt whatever.

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Speaker 2: But after the Celtics at three, you've got the Bucks

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Speaker 2: at four. Okay, you're only two and a half up

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Speaker 2: on the Bucks. If Brunson's out for two weeks here,

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Speaker 2: it's not the worst thing in the world. If the

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Speaker 2: Knicks fall to four, they would then face the Pacers

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Speaker 2: in the first round. You know, Pacers are all right,

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Speaker 2: I mean, Pistons at six or not not that bad.

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Speaker 2: And Miami's got you know, heat culture even though they're

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Speaker 2: not have good players really, so then the Knicks would

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Speaker 2: face the Pacers, and then in the second round the

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Speaker 2: Calves as opposed to Boston. I think, you know, if

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Speaker 2: I'm the Knicks, I'm not scared of the Cleveland Cavaliers.

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Speaker 2: I'm not. I don't care what the scores were during

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Speaker 2: the season. That's the regular season. We know in the

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Speaker 2: playoffs you get a different whistle. I mean, go ahead

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Speaker 2: and tell me you know who on the Calves is

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Speaker 2: your lockdown defender for Jalen bruns Are you putting DeAndre

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Speaker 2: Hunter on him? I don't. I mean Hunter gets lit

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Speaker 2: up by Wings. He's a good defender, but he's not elite.

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Speaker 2: If I'm the Knicks, That's my thought heading into the playoffs, like, hey, listen,

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Speaker 2: we need to rest Jalen Brunson. He can chill. Let

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Speaker 2: these other guys cook, and if we lose a couple

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Speaker 2: you can avoid the Celtics. Now ask for the Lakers.

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Speaker 2: You know a lot of people think I'm getting to

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Speaker 2: be a major Laker homer, and maybe that's the case.

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Speaker 2: But Lebron had thirty one and twelve and eight and

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Speaker 2: Luca had thirty two, twelve and seven. Okay, Like this

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Speaker 2: team's phenomenal, and you watch them and that fourth quarter

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Speaker 2: it's like, this team is so easy to root for.

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Speaker 2: The NBA was super fun. And oh, by the way,

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Speaker 2: before we get to Jeff Goodman Lakers first quarter, cash

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Speaker 2: is yet again, I'm fairly certain that's fourteen of the

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Speaker 2: last sixteen games. Can you bet at Saturday night in

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Speaker 2: Boston that streak could end there, but you'll probably be

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Speaker 2: getting at least two or three right Anyways, without further ado,

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Speaker 2: let's go to Jeff Goodman from the Field of sixty eight.

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Speaker 1: You know a guy Jason likes to think he knows

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Speaker 1: everything when it comes to sports.

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Speaker 2: I know what sports fans want.

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Speaker 1: But for everything he doesn't. He knows a guy who does.

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Speaker 4: Let's just say I know a guy who knows the

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Speaker 4: guy who knows another guy.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's welcome back to straight fire. One of

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Speaker 2: the most prominent voices in college basketball been covering the

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Speaker 2: sport for I don't know, fifteen, twenty thirty years. I

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Speaker 2: mean he's been at all the big shops. Now he's

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Speaker 2: got his own, no boss to answer to. Field of

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Speaker 2: sixty eight. Jeff Goodman, how are you? Man?

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Speaker 4: Man, it's good to see you. It's been way too long.

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Speaker 4: It is good to see you. It's been listen, it's

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Speaker 4: been a blast to say. I knew you win. I

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Speaker 3: Nobody knew you, right, Can I say that?

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Speaker 2: Well, I've known you for a long time because I'm

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Speaker 2: a college basketball nerd, and I would always just pepper

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 2: I love you asking me stuff, And I mean, you're

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Speaker 2: love March Madness. Conference Championship Week starts, well, the JV

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Speaker 2: Week is this week, and then the Big Ones next week,

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Speaker 2: and then the tournament obviously, but you know, we do

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Speaker 2: a lot of gambling on the pod, and you guys

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Speaker 2: going to be wide open. The last two years were

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Speaker 2: the Yukon Invitational, right, and then this year. I mean,

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Speaker 3: That's right.

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Speaker 4: No, I mean, Auburn's been surprisingly dominant all year because

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Speaker 3: Bruce Pearl included, you know, he didn't know they'd be

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Speaker 4: But you know it's a combination, right, of the pieces

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Speaker 4: there a week or so ago and I did a

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Speaker 4: I did it with twenty two year old Player of

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Speaker 4: the Year candidate, fifth year senior, to Hot Pettiford freshman,

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Speaker 4: my favorite interview I've done in ten years because all

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Speaker 4: killed and killed them. The eighteen year old freshman is

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Speaker 4: killing the twenty two year old fifth year senior, and

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Speaker 4: Broom loves it, loves it.

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Speaker 3: So like you can just tell.

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Speaker 4: And that's hard these days because they've been playing together

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Speaker 4: it's everything together. And Bruce Pearl listened. You could say

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Speaker 4: what you want about Bruce Pearl. He is a master motivator.

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Speaker 4: He is so good with people and kids and everybody

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Speaker 4: that I just think Auburn they've got the whole package.

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Speaker 4: And listen what they've done again. You know, the quad

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Speaker 4: because Cooper's better than I thought he'd be. And I'd

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Speaker 4: seen him forty times in AU ball and he's even

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Speaker 4: better Jason, because he's all about winning. I mean when

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Speaker 3: Like main, I mean, there's a team for me. Maine

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Speaker 4: Ever, they don't know players, So like right there, you

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Speaker 3: He wants to just be one of the guys, which

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Speaker 4: He hasn't done one one on one interview all year

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Speaker 4: in the season, only post stuff post game. He's fine,

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Speaker 4: but like we've asked for it and other people have

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Speaker 4: reminds me a little bit of Kawhi in that regard,

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Speaker 4: because Kawai just wanted to do his thing. And I

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Speaker 3: Well, he just doesn't know him.

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Speaker 4: I think stephen A's problem is he does it no

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Speaker 3: You know, And that's the beauty of Kawhi, right.

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Speaker 4: Kawhi played harder than everybody when he was on the

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Speaker 2: Brutal year for the ACC. Let's go back to Auburn

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Speaker 2: for six. So obviously you tinker around on some of

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Speaker 2: and essentially for the guys are transfers. You got Baker Mazarro,

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Speaker 2: interesting now because, like you said, Pettiford, who's one of

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Speaker 2: my favorite players in college. Like, I know he's only

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Speaker 2: or more to Houston, Duke, Kentucky, all the good teams.

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Speaker 2: They play like. He's really nice. But the way these

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Speaker 4: Now, Yeah, I think Villanova started that a little bit, right,

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Speaker 3: Everybody's saying like, Okay, this is our advantage. Right.

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Speaker 4: In the last couple of years, the freshman classes have

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Speaker 4: been atrocious overall. This year is obviously much better, but

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Speaker 4: they're not making the tournament. Trey Johnson's in there vj Edgecumbe,

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Speaker 4: they're both barely making the tournament if they do. So, Like,

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Speaker 4: Cooper Flag is the outlier here, and there's a reason

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Speaker 4: he's the outlier, just because again it's funny because going

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Speaker 3: But I'm not saying no anymore. I'm not saying no.

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Speaker 4: I think you can build your franchise around Cooper Flag

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Speaker 3: But we didn't know a lot.

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Speaker 3: Started as a seventeen year old freshman.

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Speaker 4: Seventeen wasn't reclassified like a lot of these kids. So

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Speaker 3: You can't pick Cooper apart. What are you gonna what

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Speaker 2: He's hitting thirty eight percent on threes, right, that's eighty

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Speaker 2: Some m I mean, these women were posted like college

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Speaker 3: Because he's the first team All American in my opinion,

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: The only question I have, the bigger one.

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Speaker 4: Than the free throw shooting, is like, yeah, Ty Golden

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Speaker 3: You know, the Bruce Pearls of the world.

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Speaker 4: The Natos is the one that he's done it in

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Speaker 2: You mentioned Nate Oates Alabama. I tweeted this and all

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Speaker 2: these Alabama fans got pissed. Any did they peak too early?

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Speaker 2: They've lost too straight now in the SEC. That's not

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Speaker 2: the worst thing in the world. You know, you're losing

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Speaker 2: like this. What do you think's wrong with Natos's team?

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Speaker 4: They're not as good as shooting team as we thought.

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Speaker 4: They lost the kid Latrell right so back in November.

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Speaker 4: He was one of the better shooters. Their pieces don't

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Speaker 3: And Mark Sears to me, is the guy that he

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Speaker 2: But is he going to be back?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so.

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Speaker 4: I got to find out what the update is with him,

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Speaker 3: And then sometimes he can look like selfish, Yes, very selfish.

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Speaker 2: He has some characteristics length, can step out and shoot it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, not a great shooter. Not a great shooter. That's

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Speaker 4: But I think again, their piece is just like they

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Speaker 3: That's not a good thing.

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Speaker 2: So we haven't talked a lot about the a SEC

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Speaker 2: What do you think about Clemson?

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Speaker 3: Underrated? Really? Really?

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Speaker 2: They were a hot team for me last year. I

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Speaker 4: Rod Brunell's really good, a great job, and he kind

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Speaker 3: He could be there's a chance with what's going on

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Speaker 2: Oh, go for it. I don't know what's going on

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Indiana, obviously, Mike Woodson crazy. I pay attention to

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Speaker 3: So I'm taking fifty grand in a year to her education.

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Speaker 3: So I care fifty fifty Indiana.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, hotly count.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, wait, how old are your kids now?

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Speaker 2: No, they're middle school, so we're not quite there yet.

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Speaker 2: But uh, I guess I got start putting some money aside.

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Speaker 2: Holy count.

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Speaker 4: No, no, definitely, So they Woodson he's out, you know,

433
00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:45,080
Speaker 4: a month and a half ago. Whatever, they've rebounded, they've

434
00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:47,399
Speaker 4: actually played well lately. They're probably right on the bubble,

435
00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:50,200
Speaker 4: which would be a crazy thing if they basically got him,

436
00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:52,200
Speaker 4: you know, to say he's stepping down.

437
00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:53,520
Speaker 3: He didn't really want to step down.

438
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Speaker 2: Oh you think they shoved him out? Oh yeah, oh

439
00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:58,480
Speaker 2: d I didn't follow it closely.

440
00:20:58,760 --> 00:20:59,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, he didn't want to go.

441
00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:02,520
Speaker 4: So anyway, So it's open now and Indiana fans think

442
00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:06,320
Speaker 4: they're going to get you know, first it was Brad Stevens. Oh,

443
00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:10,199
Speaker 4: come on, crazy, Brad. This year's you how much Brad's changed.

444
00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:14,719
Speaker 4: So Brad years ago was the biggest and I've known

445
00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:16,919
Speaker 4: since he was an assistant at Butler. But when he

446
00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:19,760
Speaker 4: becomes a head coach of Butler, Brad is the ultimate

447
00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:20,920
Speaker 4: rules guy.

448
00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:22,960
Speaker 3: He'll never break a rule, ever break a rule.

449
00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:25,399
Speaker 4: Like I get out of my car in Vegas and

450
00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:27,159
Speaker 4: an au event, he gets out of his car at

451
00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,520
Speaker 4: the same time. It's in the morning in a gym

452
00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:32,879
Speaker 4: watching recruits and they had gotten a commitment from a

453
00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:35,960
Speaker 4: kid that morning, and I'm just making small talk at

454
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Speaker 4: that point, I'm like, hey, Brad, who.

455
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Speaker 3: Did you get? You know, who's the skid you got?

456
00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:40,919
Speaker 3: He's like, Jeff, I can't comment on him.

457
00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:42,399
Speaker 4: I'm like, Brad, it's just you and me here in

458
00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:45,320
Speaker 4: the frigging parking lot, Like, dude, I just I'm making

459
00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:49,280
Speaker 4: small talk here. Well, Brad, who never comments really on anything.

460
00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:53,040
Speaker 4: The Indiana stuff, you know, it started to percolate a

461
00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:55,040
Speaker 4: little bit and all these fans think they're getting Brad.

462
00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:57,880
Speaker 4: So I texted him and called him, and he put

463
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Speaker 4: out a statement saying like no, no, I'm happy here

464
00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:00,959
Speaker 4: like I'm not.

465
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Speaker 2: And you leaving a dynasty of the NBA for Indiana.

466
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Speaker 4: And nobody is going back right now to college to

467
00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:12,119
Speaker 4: coach in this climate of where it's a complete mess,

468
00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:15,440
Speaker 4: with nil with a portal, all that, when you could

469
00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:17,679
Speaker 4: get a job in the NBA whenever he wanted. If

470
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Speaker 4: Brad Stevens says tomorrow, I want to be the head

471
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Speaker 4: coach in the NBA, he'll get five teams every opening

472
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Speaker 4: this year. We'll call him every opening. So anyway, Indiana. Sorry,

473
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Speaker 4: So you know Brad Stevens. No, you know Dusty May No,

474
00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:36,520
Speaker 4: he went to Indiana. He was a manager. He decides

475
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Speaker 4: he's staying at Michigan because it fits some better. So

476
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Speaker 4: this thing could fall I've said they should go after

477
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Speaker 4: Iowa State head coach tj Otzilberger. I don't think he'd

478
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Speaker 4: take it at the end of the day, you know,

479
00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:50,840
Speaker 4: I don't think Scott Drew will take it at Baylor.

480
00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:53,360
Speaker 4: He turned down Kentucky a year ago. So I think

481
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Speaker 4: you could get down to where you're talking Brad Burnell

482
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Speaker 4: from Clemson legitimately being in the mix, or a Ben McCullum,

483
00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:02,520
Speaker 4: a first year head coach who was in the D

484
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Speaker 4: two ranks who just won the Missouri Valley at Drake

485
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Speaker 4: in his first season. Those guys could be in the

486
00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:11,800
Speaker 4: mix of Indiana because guys aren't moving, Jason. They're not

487
00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:15,840
Speaker 4: moving because they've got big contracts. If they like their ads,

488
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,720
Speaker 4: they're not uprooting their family. As long as they got nil,

489
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Speaker 4: they're not gonna move.

490
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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's been there at Clemson for fifteen years now. Again,

491
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Speaker 2: I don't know what his family situation, as kids like

492
00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:30,359
Speaker 2: that's tough to bail after fifteen years. You got to

493
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Speaker 2: really want to be in Bloomington.

494
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Speaker 4: No, and his ad has been very loyal to him

495
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Speaker 4: at Clemson. Yeah, a couple of years ago his ad

496
00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,920
Speaker 4: legitimately young ad named Graham neph said to him before

497
00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:42,840
Speaker 4: the year, he said, listen, there's a make or break year.

498
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Speaker 4: If you make the tournament, well you know you're staying

499
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Speaker 4: if you don't. If you don't make the NCAA tournament,

500
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Speaker 4: this is it. He didn't make it. They end up

501
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Speaker 4: going to the NIIT and Graham kept them because he said, like,

502
00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:58,080
Speaker 4: we're still drawing well attendance wise. He's a great dude,

503
00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,080
Speaker 4: and part of it is too keep your nose clean

504
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:04,280
Speaker 4: and climbs in basketball, make sure because you got to

505
00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:05,000
Speaker 4: protect football.

506
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's obviously tough thing. Interestingly, you mentioned the

507
00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:12,440
Speaker 2: guy at Drake, so he just got there, brings all

508
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:14,879
Speaker 2: of his dudes and they're one of the best stories

509
00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:15,800
Speaker 2: of college basketball, right.

510
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:16,520
Speaker 3: Oh.

511
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Speaker 4: I saw them three times in Charleston in November. They've

512
00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:21,600
Speaker 4: got a point guard. You got to watch his kid

513
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:25,680
Speaker 4: who as a huge basketball fan of the right way.

514
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:29,760
Speaker 4: This kid's name is Bennett Starts. He is a stud.

515
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:33,560
Speaker 3: He is like a big point guard who's not going

516
00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 3: to blow you away with with athleticism or anything like that. Again,

517
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:40,320
Speaker 3: he had one I think he had won scholarship and

518
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Speaker 3: it was to Northwest Missouri State coming is that d

519
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Speaker 3: two or three two two.

520
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Speaker 4: So they go there and he brings his entire starting

521
00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:55,760
Speaker 4: five other than their leading scorer who exhausted his eligibility

522
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,960
Speaker 4: last year. He brings the other four guys with him

523
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:02,720
Speaker 4: to Drake, and everybody's like, well, how good can they be?

524
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 3: I mean, you know four the two players.

525
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like it's going to be a big time rebuilding

526
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:11,439
Speaker 4: year at Drake after Darrin de Rivies, you know, was

527
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:13,600
Speaker 4: dominant the last couple of years with his son Tucker.

528
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:15,719
Speaker 4: And they go out there and I'm telling you, when

529
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:17,840
Speaker 4: I saw him in charge, they beat Vandy and Charleston

530
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:20,600
Speaker 4: and I'm like, this team is for real, Like they

531
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:24,360
Speaker 4: play such a fun brand of basketball.

532
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:27,960
Speaker 3: And this kid starts. I hope he decides to stay.

533
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:30,240
Speaker 3: But if he goes in the portal.

534
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:32,159
Speaker 2: Wait, why would he go on the portal? Oh? You

535
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,320
Speaker 2: think he could play at like North Carolina or something.

536
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,439
Speaker 4: I mean, he could play anywhere, like legitimately, Jason, like

537
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,800
Speaker 4: he you know, these guys were getting these big big

538
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,440
Speaker 4: men were getting two million dollars this past offseason, Great

539
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,800
Speaker 4: Osibor at Washington, Coleman Hawkins at Kansas State. Like, if

540
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:50,119
Speaker 4: I'm paying somebody two million next year, I'm paying Bennetts start.

541
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:51,640
Speaker 2: Coleman Hawkins got got two million?

542
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 3: Now?

543
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:59,480
Speaker 4: Is that rumor or fact a combination? Yeah, it's right

544
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:00,800
Speaker 4: there in that two million dollars.

545
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:04,200
Speaker 2: Okay, let me ask about Drake because I'm like kind

546
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 2: of interested in betting on them because of this story.

547
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,119
Speaker 2: But they've played a lot of overtime games against and

548
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 2: they haven't really you know, they're not clobbering some of

549
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 2: these bad teams, and they haven't stepped up in class. Really.

550
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 2: It looks like their best win was against Kansas State,

551
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:19,600
Speaker 2: which is kind of rivalry, and the Vandy winn was good,

552
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:21,720
Speaker 2: but it was November. Can they make a run to

553
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 2: like this sweet sixteen or are they potentially getting knocked off?

554
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:25,480
Speaker 3: Yeah?

555
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 4: I mean I love them, so I want to say yes.

556
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:31,399
Speaker 4: I want to say yes in the worst way. But

557
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 4: I'm also kind of realistic here that they haven't played

558
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:38,240
Speaker 4: great in the valley. They've been, you know, very good,

559
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:39,720
Speaker 4: but they've had their stumbling box.

560
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 3: They're not overpowering, that's the problem.

561
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 4: They're not big, they're not super athletic.

562
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:48,680
Speaker 3: But man, I'll be rooting for them. I wouldn't say,

563
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 3: I'd say if they.

564
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Speaker 4: Can get a win they get one win in the

565
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:53,880
Speaker 4: NCAA tournament, that would be a hell of a year.

566
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Speaker 2: So you mentioned Saint John's earlier that one of the

567
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,480
Speaker 2: best stories in the sport. Obviously, Rick Patino, a genius,

568
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 2: comes at number two. Defensively, this is probably the best

569
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:09,159
Speaker 2: team since didn't they have a guiding Thornton? Was it

570
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 2: Bootsy Thornton?

571
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 3: Yeah?

572
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, they just haven't been good in years. I mean

573
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 4: the last time they were this good, you're talking about

574
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 4: like Chris Mullen playing for something. That's the last time

575
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:25,679
Speaker 4: they were like, yes, this good. I mean this relevant

576
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,440
Speaker 4: right their top ten. I went a week and a

577
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 4: half ago at the Garden. It was the weekend of

578
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 4: Duke played Illinois and beat the crap out of him,

579
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:39,719
Speaker 4: and then the next day Patino beat Yukon and Dan Hurley.

580
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 4: And listen, right now, Patino's running the Big East. I mean,

581
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:47,880
Speaker 4: he's absolutely in year two. At seventy two years old

582
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:51,120
Speaker 4: or whatever he is. He does not look or act

583
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:54,200
Speaker 4: like a guy in seventy. You know, some coaches look

584
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:58,679
Speaker 4: and act older, and especially when I deal with these guys,

585
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 4: you can sense it. Rick Patino does not seem like

586
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 4: he's aged a bit. In the last ten years, especially

587
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,199
Speaker 4: with how on top of things he is.

588
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 3: I mean, he's and.

589
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Speaker 4: He's got these guys believing like we win games with

590
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:12,200
Speaker 4: our defense.

591
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:12,680
Speaker 3: Yeah.

592
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,959
Speaker 4: And I talked to Russ Smith who played for him

593
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 4: at Louisville.

594
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:17,880
Speaker 2: And broke his leg.

595
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 3: What's up?

596
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Speaker 2: Is Russ Smith the one who broke his leg in

597
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 2: the NCAA tournament.

598
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:25,160
Speaker 3: No, that's Kevin Waere. Kevin brus Smith was the super

599
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:26,920
Speaker 3: fun yeah.

600
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Speaker 2: Bucket like thirty five against Michigan or something in the tournament.

601
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 4: He just went off and Russ Russ made a good point,

602
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 4: he said, He goes, I know they're not a great

603
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 4: shooting team. He goes, we weren't a great shooting team

604
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 4: when we won it all and went to the final four.

605
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 4: But as the year went on, we figured it out

606
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,720
Speaker 4: because we played so hard defensively, because you had no

607
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 4: choice that your legs weren't there right, you're and you

608
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 4: had to figure out how to play that level of

609
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 4: defense and still have your legs and still be able

610
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 4: to make threes and make shots. And he said, I

611
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Speaker 4: think at the end of the year, here you're starting

612
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 4: to see saying John shoot it much better, which they

613
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 4: did the first half.

614
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 3: Of the Yukon game, they were like eight of sixteen.

615
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, but Jeff perkenpom they're three hundred and thirty

616
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 2: seventh and three point shooting. That's out of like three

617
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Speaker 2: to sixty.

618
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 3: I think it's amazing.

619
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 2: And in free throw shooting they're three hundred. That stuff

620
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 2: concerns me. Plus you never know, March madness. You got

621
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 2: a tight whistle. All of a sudden, you got dudes

622
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 2: in foul trouble.

623
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Speaker 4: Sweet sixteen again, Sweet sixteen. I'm fine with that's a

624
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 4: huge Yeah.

625
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 3: I don't think they go further than that, all right?

626
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Speaker 2: Is there a sleeper outside of say the top twenty five?

627
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess you could put Yukon into that territory.

628
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 2: Could they be a sleeper? They just don't have it.

629
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 3: No, they could.

630
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 4: I don't think they can win the whole thing again.

631
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 4: I don't think they can. They can do the three

632
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 4: peat again, but I certainly think yeah, Alex Caravan looks

633
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 4: more like Alex Caravan than he has in the in the.

634
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 3: Last few games. His confidence is.

635
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 4: Back at this point. You know McNeely. Liam mcneely's awesome

636
00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 4: as a as a freshman. I just their depth isn't there?

637
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 4: Their depth isn't there.

638
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Speaker 2: I got to ask about a certain player, so Aiden Mahaney.

643
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,479
Speaker 2: I saw him here on the West Coast. He started

644
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 2: starring at Saint Mary's. I'm like, oh, well, what a

645
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Speaker 2: get by ucunn and he barely plays. I don't get it.

646
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Speaker 2: Does Hurly hate him? Is it the lack of defense

647
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 2: because nobody on that team plays defense? Or I don't

648
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Speaker 2: need to think their top one hundred defensive.

649
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Speaker 3: Them horrible fit.

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00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 4: You know, like like you need the right type of

651
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 4: personality and player.

652
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 3: For Dan Hurley.

653
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 2: You know that I Hurley's gonna ride you and he

654
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 2: can't handle it.

655
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's just not what he is, right. And the

656
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 4: other part is he can't get by dudes. Not only

657
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 4: can he not guard really at a high level, but

658
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 4: he can't get by dudes in the biggiest He should

659
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 4: have seen the WCC. Think about it, it's the perfect

660
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 4: league for somebody that's not a great athlete.

661
00:30:58,480 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 2: So where do you think you'll leave and go?

662
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 3: So more I would think, I mean, why would you

663
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 3: stay there?

664
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's a bummer. I mean I love that

665
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 2: guy's game in the now in the WCC. You're right,

666
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 2: a total another story. So anyway, sorry to interrupt. You

667
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 2: could be a sleeper anyone else.

668
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 4: I'm trying to think who else could be a sleeper?

669
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 4: I like, say Mary's. I mean, I think they're the

670
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 4: end of the top twenty five right now. I just

671
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 4: think Randy Bennett's one of the elite coaches in the game.

672
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 3: I mean, he's so good.

673
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 4: If you've kind of like you get a chance, I

674
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 4: know you're not close close, but if you ever get

675
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 4: a chance, go to a Randy Bennett practice.

676
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 3: Man, it's like a complete clinic.

677
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 2: And they got Marcelonis's son on that team.

678
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 4: He's dominant, really goodsAs Yeah, Goose, this is really good.

679
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 4: They got a veteran big and Mitchell Sachson. You know,

680
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 4: I think again, to me, there'll be some surprises. I

681
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 4: think to get to like the Sweet sixteen, there'll be

682
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 4: some upsets. But I think this year I just don't

683
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 4: see a lot of like party crashers, like like FAU

684
00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 4: was a few years ago.

685
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 3: To the Final four, I'd be surprised if that's the case.

686
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 2: A year plugged in on the coaching stuff, is Hubert

687
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 2: gave Davis getting run? And if so, who's replacing him?

688
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, he'll get one more year.

689
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 4: You know, he just brought in Jim Tanner, the former

690
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 4: NBA agents Is General manager, Buzz Peterson will come back

691
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 4: in a role.

692
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 3: They'll they'll they'll change out their staff. They'll have staff changes.

693
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 4: That'll be basically what the ad Bubba Cunningham will say

694
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 4: to Hubert, a, you know you want to stick around

695
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 4: for another year, You've got to make some changes here.

696
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 3: You know.

697
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 4: The crazy part is, think about this, as of seven

698
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 4: days ago, in three of the four years Hubert Davis

699
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 4: has been the head coach, and I'm not counting March.

700
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 4: I think it was March first, the first year he

701
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 4: beat coach k Remember they were on the bubble, and

702
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 4: then they beat coach k On coach Coach k Knight

703
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 4: his final and that's when they went on that crazy

704
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 4: run to the title game. Right, but they're on the

705
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 4: bubble right before that. Then year two they don't, they

706
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 4: don't make the tournament. Year three, last year they're really good.

707
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 4: They win the league and they finished, they go to

708
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 4: the Sweet sixteen, and a year four again they're back

709
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 4: in the bubble.

710
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 3: So three of the four years entering March first, they're

711
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 3: on the bubble. That is not good enough at North Carolina.

712
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 4: He'll get one more year and if he obviously, if

713
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 4: he doesn't get to the tournament.

714
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 2: Next year, is there an NC state out there we

715
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 2: need to be on the lookout for.

716
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 4: There's never gonna be another NC stage, never gonna be

717
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 4: another NC state. That's the craziest part of what happened.

718
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 4: It came out of absolutely well, I don't want to

719
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 4: say that because years ago, if you remember, if you

720
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 4: remember this one SEC tournament in Atlanta at the Georgia

721
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 4: Dome years ago, there was a tornado that hit and

722
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 4: they had to move it to Georgia Tech, and it

723
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 4: was only it was actually really cool in a way,

724
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 4: not cool about the tornado, but only friends, family and

725
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 4: some media were allowed in to watch that thing and

726
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 4: Georgia Dennis Felton was a head coach back then. He

727
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:00,160
Speaker 4: was going to be fired and they went on this run.

728
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 4: They won five games in four days. They played two

729
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 4: games in a day to win the SEC tournament and

730
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 4: save his job, so crazier things have happened, but you

731
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 4: can't even predict anything like what happened.

732
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:13,399
Speaker 3: With NC State.

733
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll close out by Villanova.

734
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 3: Could Villanova?

735
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:21,760
Speaker 4: Villanova has the talent Jason They've got, they got maybe

736
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 4: one of the top ten players in the country and

737
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:27,719
Speaker 4: Eric Dixon. We just don't trust right now Villanova as

738
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 4: a whole.

739
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:32,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean we know the alsome, tried and true things.

740
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:35,320
Speaker 2: In March. You need great guard play. Are you buying

741
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 2: Perkins and Brickus and Poplar?

742
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:39,399
Speaker 3: Yeah?

743
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,799
Speaker 4: Poplars he was good for real for stretch there. But no,

744
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 4: I don't think there's any consistency to that Villanova team

745
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 4: that they can run off you know, uh, you know,

746
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 4: three or four games in conference play.

747
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's tough to make one of those deep runs

748
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:55,840
Speaker 2: like out of nowhere. Like Kansas State had the little

749
00:34:55,840 --> 00:35:00,879
Speaker 2: guard who was amazing. I can't eve I'm facing his name.

750
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 2: He lit up the garden and he was amazing. Yeah, yeah,

751
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:06,359
Speaker 2: I know, he and like, you just need like one

752
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 2: of those kind of performances to carry you.

753
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 3: But Kemba, look at Kemba, Kemba Walker, here you go.

754
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 4: When he carried him not only the NCAA title, but

755
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 4: the Big East title. I mean that was eleven straight wins,

756
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 4: riding you know, Kemba Walker's back.

757
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 3: It was crazy.

758
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 2: So the last question is this finally the year for

759
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 2: Kelvin Sampson. They got close a few years ago. They've

760
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,360
Speaker 2: been upset in each of the last two years. I

761
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 2: think in the sweet sixteen, although there was an injury

762
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 2: last year against Duke. I remember that because I had Houston,

763
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 2: I like Crier. I liked his team. Do they have

764
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 2: enough shooting Jeff outside of Crier?

765
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,319
Speaker 4: It's funny their percentages say they do. They just don't

766
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 4: take a lot of threes. But Criers have a lead

767
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 4: three point shooter. And the big difference is the kid

768
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:51,360
Speaker 4: Milos Uzan has been terrific.

769
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 3: He transferred in this year.

770
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 4: When I saw him in November, he was not good

771
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:58,919
Speaker 4: and Kelvin said, He's like, we are not a good team.

772
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:02,280
Speaker 4: And they've been awesome since, I mean dominating the Big Twelve.

773
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:05,400
Speaker 4: Think about that, like they've got one loss in the

774
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:06,359
Speaker 4: Big twelve.

775
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:10,720
Speaker 3: Where Kansas is basically you know right, you know, they're

776
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 3: ten and eight, They're two games over five hundred. It's

777
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 3: amazing what Kelvin's been able to do. I just I'm

778
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 3: with you.

779
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 4: I don't know if they have enough offensive pop to

780
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 4: win the whole thing. But again, I think, you know,

781
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,360
Speaker 4: I don't think there's as big of a gap between

782
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 4: Auburn and Duke and the rest of the country as

783
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 4: people were saying there was up until you know, obviously

784
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,280
Speaker 4: Auburn loses one game and everybody's like, oh.

785
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 3: They're not that good, right, They're not that good. They're

786
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 3: not that good. They've like beating everybody this year.

787
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,359
Speaker 4: The only loss they really had before that, you know,

788
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:44,359
Speaker 4: at Duke, you know, which is no shame in that one.

789
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 2: And obviously Florida and Auburn it looks like they've played

790
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:51,240
Speaker 2: maybe the toughest schedule in the country according to that rating,

791
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 2: and Duke is not top fifty.

792
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 3: Nope.

793
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 2: Interesting all right, Jeff Goodman Field of sixty eight, congrats, man,

794
00:36:58,120 --> 00:36:59,799
Speaker 2: you're your own boss. That's as good as it gets.

795
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:04,280
Speaker 2: You know, I'll let you tell the people about your move,

796
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 2: shall we say? But life is sounds like life is

797
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:07,840
Speaker 2: good for you, man.

798
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, A lot, a lot less stress, a lot less stress.

799
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 3: You know, listen, I love my time.

800
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:17,360
Speaker 4: You know, I had a great run, you know, Fox CBS, ESPN.

801
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 4: I mean, whoever thought somebody would put my ass on TV?

802
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:21,439
Speaker 3: Right?

803
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 1: Like?

804
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 3: Think about that?

805
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 2: Well, you know, I didn't get to ask about him

806
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 2: because I know you guys go way back. I know him.

807
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:28,400
Speaker 2: I was trying to get him on the pod. But

808
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:32,799
Speaker 2: Doug Gottlieb obviously coaching now doing a radio show. It's

809
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 2: been a tough go in year one. Obviously. Listen, you

810
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:37,840
Speaker 2: got to give guys some time to bake in this environment.

811
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:39,439
Speaker 2: Have you have you talked to Doug? Are you guys?

812
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 2: Doil friendly?

813
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:40,279
Speaker 3: Are you?

814
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:40,880
Speaker 2: I don't know?

815
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:41,919
Speaker 3: Just I love Doug.

816
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 4: I love Doug personally. I get a lot great with him.

817
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 4: We hosted a show for the last couple of years

818
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 4: on Stadium. It's funny. He hit me up the other day.

819
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 4: We were texting about something. He's like, He's like, you know,

820
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:56,839
Speaker 4: have you haven't you watched us? Or something like that,

821
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:59,399
Speaker 4: haven't you watched us? We're playing much harder. I'm like, Doug,

822
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 4: you've like three games. No, I'm not watching you. I

823
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,800
Speaker 4: have to watch teams that are nationally relevant, you dumbass.

824
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 4: But I love Doug to death. I'm pulling for him.

825
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,880
Speaker 4: He's a brilliant basketball mind, Jason. He really is a

826
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 4: brilliant and I think, you know, he just needs to

827
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 4: get enough talent. He got that job late.

828
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:22,400
Speaker 3: I've never had that last job filled.

829
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I've never had a situation like this. He

830
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:29,280
Speaker 4: got the job, and I'm not kidding. Twenty five coaches

831
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 4: write it within the first twenty four hours called me

832
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 4: for his number because they all wanted to play it.

833
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,320
Speaker 3: They all wanted to play it. Yeah, oh yeah, everybody

834
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 3: wanted to play it. Well, they knew, they knew. Number one,

835
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 3: he got the job late. There's nothing left in the portal.

836
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 3: Number two.

837
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 4: He's going to try to balance coaching and a full

838
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:50,320
Speaker 4: time you know, radio job, which.

839
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:53,360
Speaker 3: You would know better than most on that one.

840
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 4: Like, I get it, and I actually think the hardest

841
00:38:57,400 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 4: part of doing it is you're not able to watch enough.

842
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:03,839
Speaker 4: Like you're gonna take away from both jobs, because yeah,

843
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 4: you're gonna take away a little bit from you. But

844
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 4: you know, he said in his story, in a story

845
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:12,359
Speaker 4: that was done recently in CBS, you know, he's divorced.

846
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 4: His two girls are older, they're in college. He's got

847
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:20,760
Speaker 4: one son who's probably about thirteen or so. But again,

848
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 4: Doug Man, if there's anybody that can juggle a million things.

849
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 3: I've seen it firsthand. It's Doug Gottlieb.

850
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:29,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, No, he's got an uphill climb, for sure.

851
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 2: It's funny you talk about the juggling. So, you know,

852
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:35,799
Speaker 2: I coached my kids in sports, and maybe like six

853
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 2: months ago, local high school reached out to me and

854
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 2: was like, hey, we might have a job, a coaching job,

855
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 2: if you're interested. And I'm like, listen, this is not

856
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 2: varsity obviously, but I was like, my kids don't even

857
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 2: go to high school. That would be too weird. But

858
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,880
Speaker 2: I do love hoops and I do coach my kids

859
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 2: and we you know, I have good players and we

860
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:55,359
Speaker 2: win a lot. But like, I can't imagine going through

861
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 2: what he's going through.

862
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 3: Jeff.

863
00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 2: I mean, you know what it's like starting your own business,

864
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 2: and that's just starting a basketball team. You've got this

865
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 2: huge audience and you get in your ass kicked and

866
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 2: then Lebron's taking shots Adam Schefter's you know, like.

867
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 3: Chefter was wrong.

868
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:08,840
Speaker 2: Some of that was brought on, he brought on.

869
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:11,399
Speaker 4: She was wrong, Like Doug was right on that one.

870
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 4: Like Sacramento State is not going to five hundred million

871
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 4: whatever it was Yeah, was it like five hundred or

872
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 4: fifty million dollars? Fifty million dollars in nil? Come on, Like,

873
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:20,919
Speaker 4: what if.

874
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 2: He brought you on as an advisor, would your number

875
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 2: one thing say, say off social media, delete it from

876
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:27,320
Speaker 2: her phone? Focused on basketball?

877
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 3: No, I would just make him send me his his tweets.

878
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:32,240
Speaker 2: Before before anything goes out.

879
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 3: Correct. And I'm not great either, I've gotten better.

880
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 4: Here here's the key for me, Jason. I don't go

881
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 4: back at people very often anymore.

882
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 2: You used to, Yeah, I remember, Oh, I used to

883
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 2: kill people.

884
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 3: Kill people.

885
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 4: The difference is and you'll find this out. So my

886
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:50,839
Speaker 4: daughter covers women's college basketball full time now. So she's

887
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:53,360
Speaker 4: on Twitter, and she's a junior at Indiana, but she

888
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:55,720
Speaker 4: full time. She's got a full time job. In addition,

889
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 4: she's on Twitter. So it forces me to be better

890
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:03,799
Speaker 4: because she gets a lot of the crap. They'll DM her,

891
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:06,439
Speaker 4: they'll do out you know, like it just I gotta

892
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 4: be careful. I gotta be careful because I don't want

893
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 4: her to see the dumb stuff I do.

894
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 2: Also, that's a good point. You know. My kid came

895
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 2: to me and it was like Dad, Well, one of

896
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 2: my buddies came up and was like, why is your

897
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 2: dad beefing with Kevin Durant And I was like, they

898
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 2: were like, yeah, it's on YouTube and I was like,

899
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 2: oh jeez. So and again my kid just doesn't impact

900
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 2: my kids. They find it funny. But you're right, as

901
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:30,479
Speaker 2: someone who's like trying to be an actual journalist, that

902
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 2: that could be tough, almost an impediment.

903
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:35,919
Speaker 3: It's hard enough for a twenty twenty one year old,

904
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 3: you know girl.

905
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 4: To do this, get in this, you know, like, this

906
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,880
Speaker 4: is not you better be thick skinned better.

907
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,280
Speaker 2: If you told your kid to come into journalism.

908
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 4: No, I didn't tell her. I told her not to. Yeah,

909
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 4: that's oh, not to, but you didn't listen to me.

910
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 2: I don't even want my kids taking any like journalism class,

911
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 2: like stay away from this field.

912
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:56,320
Speaker 4: Well it's just it's gone in a bad direction. And

913
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,320
Speaker 4: the one thing I've done with Tali and my daughter

914
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:03,319
Speaker 4: is teach her. Try to teacher the right way to

915
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:05,879
Speaker 4: do it right, like the way that we the way

916
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 4: that I learned to do it right.

917
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:09,479
Speaker 3: Two sources, and make sure that there are no rules.

918
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:14,359
Speaker 4: Now you know, anybody it's any accountability, there's no accountability none.

919
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:17,239
Speaker 3: That's the problem. It's for me. It's like you can't

920
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 3: be wrong. You can't. Now again, I'll give my opinion.

921
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 3: You know that.

922
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 4: I've always given my opinion and been unafraid of that.

923
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 4: But it's always an opinion based on generally based on information,

924
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 4: and yeah, if I'm wrong, I'm wrong.

925
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 2: This is Jeff Goodman Field of sixty eight. Enjoy the tournament,

926
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Speaker 2: Buddy good, catch it

927
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Speaker 3: Up always Man