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Speaker 1: we were so in love and had so much in common.

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00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:20,719
Speaker 1: I thought we would be together forever. When Jamie went

426
00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,800
Speaker 1: to college, she began taking a class on gender and sexuality.

427
00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:26,399
Speaker 1: She came home to see me one weekend, just dying

428
00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:29,200
Speaker 1: to tell me this secret that she thought would destroy

429
00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:32,280
Speaker 1: our relationship. I begged her all night to tell me.

430
00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:34,120
Speaker 1: I did my best to reassure her that I would

431
00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:36,639
Speaker 1: be there to love and support her. All kinds of

432
00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:38,520
Speaker 1: terrible things are running through my mind, like was she

433
00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:42,040
Speaker 1: a murderer? Was she an alien from another planet? That's

434
00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:44,960
Speaker 1: so tough when someone tells you like I have something

435
00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:47,720
Speaker 1: to tell you that's going to change your opinion of me,

436
00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:49,800
Speaker 1: but I don't want to tell you, and then you're

437
00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:54,080
Speaker 1: just left hanging like there's so many options there. What

438
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:59,400
Speaker 1: could change my opinion of Are you d B Cooper?

439
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,919
Speaker 1: You know I didn't cross my mind? Is an option

440
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 1: first placed? Next time, I'm gonna cheese, I'm gonna cheose

441
00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:09,919
Speaker 1: a conversation with you. So you think I'm dB Cooper.

442
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:12,560
Speaker 1: I would have a lot of questions if you were

443
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,640
Speaker 1: dB Cooper. First of all, ain't no way you're jumping

444
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,560
Speaker 1: out of a plane. No, you so right. Maybe that's

445
00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:20,480
Speaker 1: why you'll never jump out of a plane because you

446
00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:22,640
Speaker 1: did once and it didn't go so it's like good

447
00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,080
Speaker 1: cover for me. I'm like, I'd never jumped out of

448
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:29,280
Speaker 1: a plane. Also, I'd be like, where's the money? Can

449
00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:32,400
Speaker 1: we talk about where the money is? Please listen? If

450
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:37,399
Speaker 1: there's nothing like putting your assets on ice? Okay, she says.

451
00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:42,240
Speaker 1: Finally she blurred it out, I'm a cross dresser. I

452
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,760
Speaker 1: breathed out a side relief. That's it, she says. I

453
00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,160
Speaker 1: hugged her tight. We sat and talked for hours about

454
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,439
Speaker 1: how she came to this conclusion and what this meant,

455
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,679
Speaker 1: and honestly, I wasn't worried at all. I looked at

456
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:56,439
Speaker 1: my boyfriend with curly brown hair and warm eyes. Nothing

457
00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:58,960
Speaker 1: had changed for me. I guess I had noticed that

458
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:00,879
Speaker 1: he liked to dress up and win in's clothing as

459
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,160
Speaker 1: a joke, and had once begged me to let him

460
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,600
Speaker 1: try on my prom dress. It was nothing we couldn't

461
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:09,239
Speaker 1: work through. Time passed, and Jamie continued to learn more

462
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:11,600
Speaker 1: about herself. She grew her hair long and tied it

463
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:15,120
Speaker 1: back in a ponytail. She bought skinny jeans, buttoned down shirts,

464
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:19,160
Speaker 1: and slim sports jackets. She would wear women's clothing in private.

465
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 1: She wanted to try going out, but was terrified of

466
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:25,359
Speaker 1: what would happen or how people might react. I tried

467
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:27,959
Speaker 1: to be as supportive and understanding as I could, although

468
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,200
Speaker 1: as a seventeen year old in two thousand and nine,

469
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:33,600
Speaker 1: I felt very out of my depth. And I can't

470
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:35,479
Speaker 1: even imagine the dumb ship I would have said as

471
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 1: a seventeen year old in two thousand nine, like, there's

472
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:40,200
Speaker 1: no way I would have done that. Well, let's be fair,

473
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 1: you were not a seventeen year old in two thousand nine.

474
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:48,639
Speaker 1: But if I had been in this scenario well, both

475
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 1: when I was seventeen and even in the year two

476
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:55,520
Speaker 1: thousand nine when I was older than that. Um, I yeah,

477
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,000
Speaker 1: I didn't have the information, the education that I have

478
00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:00,639
Speaker 1: now about how to have responded that. I think I

479
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:04,680
Speaker 1: would have been cool. I like to think, but but yeah,

480
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,159
Speaker 1: I would also like to think that definitely learned a

481
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 1: lot since then. We all we all have h says.

482
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,680
Speaker 1: From time to time, we would have honest conversations about

483
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,200
Speaker 1: how we felt about Jamie's changes and how we felt

484
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:20,679
Speaker 1: about our relationship. For a while, we pretended that it

485
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:24,199
Speaker 1: changed nothing. We still assumed that Jamie would propose to

486
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 1: me when she graduated college, and that we would marry

487
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:30,080
Speaker 1: when I graduated college. We would eventually purchase her family

488
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:33,840
Speaker 1: home and have children. I found myself beginning to wonder

489
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 1: how I would explain Jamie to our future children. Our

490
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:39,840
Speaker 1: future wasn't nearly as cut and dried as it used

491
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,119
Speaker 1: to be, and I felt selfish and ashamed of how

492
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:46,359
Speaker 1: much that scared me. During many of our conversations, Jamie

493
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:49,159
Speaker 1: would swear to me that she would never transition, that

494
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 1: although she felt her gender was fluid, she would not

495
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,720
Speaker 1: identify as a woman. She did not think of herself

496
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:57,240
Speaker 1: as a gay or bisexual man, and was not attracted

497
00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,800
Speaker 1: to men in any way. I know there are a

498
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 1: man any things I did not do right during the

499
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:04,720
Speaker 1: course of our relationship, but even as a teenager, I

500
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 1: knew not to let Jamie make this promise. You're still

501
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,159
Speaker 1: learning what this means for you, I would say, we

502
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 1: both are. Let's just take it one day at a time.

503
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 1: After I went to college, Jamie and I inevitably drifted apart.

504
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 1: We broke up during Thanksgiving break of my freshman year,

505
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,239
Speaker 1: and we didn't speak much after that. Jamie went on

506
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 1: to become a computer engineering wizard and eventually moved to NYC.

507
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,640
Speaker 1: She eventually came out as a trans woman. Since then,

508
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 1: I have been cheering her on from afar, but was

509
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:35,639
Speaker 1: afraid to reach out. As time passed, I felt as

510
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:39,719
Speaker 1: if my wonderful experience of first love was invalidated because

511
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 1: my boyfriend decided to identify as a woman. Sometimes I

512
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,199
Speaker 1: felt that Jamie had tried to steal my role as

513
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,640
Speaker 1: a woman, whatever the hell that means, and it made

514
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,440
Speaker 1: me feel ashamed for being so selfish. I would look

515
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,879
Speaker 1: back on pictures and memories and wonder if any of

516
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 1: it was real. Your episode on Lily and Gerda was

517
00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,119
Speaker 1: such a godsend because it helped me see that my

518
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:03,159
Speaker 1: relationship with Jamie was real and loving just like their's.

519
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 1: Like Gerda, I wanted Jamie to be happy, even if

520
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 1: that meant eventually losing her. We didn't handle everything perfectly,

521
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 1: but we did our best and treated each other with love, respect,

522
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 1: and kindness until the end. I'm sorry this email is

523
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 1: so long, but I wanted to let you know that

524
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 1: I felt you two were speaking directly to me and

525
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:25,199
Speaker 1: it made me feel like my experience mattered. Thank you

526
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:30,919
Speaker 1: again for your wonderful podcast. Sincerely, H. Well, don't apologize, H.

527
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 1: That was well written and really powerful email, and we're

528
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 1: really glad we got that. I think this is such

529
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 1: a really important conversation to have as people are getting

530
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 1: more in touch and being more real about who they

531
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 1: are and their gender expression. And I think there's several

532
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 1: relationships that are like Lilian Gerda's, where there's a lot

533
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 1: of love, but at some point you're going you're not

534
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 1: the same person, and that does change to an extent,

535
00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 1: doesn't it your attraction, your desire, your companionship. I mean

536
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 1: everything would change somewhat. I mean, maybe not. I don't know.

537
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 1: I think it just depends on the person and the couple.

538
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 1: And some people are very like, there's nothing wrong with

539
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 1: being uh, with knowing the rigidity of your sexuality, right.

540
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 1: I when we got together, we were heteronormative couple, and

541
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 1: that's what I need, Like, you know, and if you're

542
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 1: someone if you are transitioning, if you discover this about yourself,

543
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 1: I still love and support you. I feel that. But

544
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 1: I you know, if I was in a relationship with

545
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 1: a woman who transitioned and was actually a man, you know,

546
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 1: I would say, well, I'm not I don't have romantic

547
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 1: attractions to men, right, I think I don't know? Right,

548
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 1: how could I know? And that's the kind of what

549
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 1: you just have to feel out on an individual level.

550
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 1: It must be because I've definitely seen ones to where

551
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 1: there's transitions and they stayed together and it's no problem

552
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 1: and every looks fine. So absolut lutely I think it

553
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:02,719
Speaker 1: can happen either way. But it feels like kind of

554
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 1: a I don't know, an experience that must feel very

555
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 1: lonely because it's hard to talk about and I feel

556
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 1: like she says she feels really bad for all her

557
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 1: feelings about it, because some of them feel like they're

558
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 1: coming from maybe a transphobic place where like a place

559
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 1: of not understanding, and you're like, I don't want to

560
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 1: be that person. That's of course I don't. But that's

561
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 1: that's coming up for me. What do I do with that?

562
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 1: Who do I talk to? There's no one to say

563
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 1: this too, and I don't. I feel like a bad person.

564
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 1: That's just all I've got. So that's a that's a

565
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 1: sad thing I think too. When we talked about Lily

566
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 1: and Gerda, you know, we even talked about a little

567
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 1: bit how Lily was very strict about gender roles. Lily

568
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 1: herself was like, I need to pass as a woman,

569
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 1: or I'm not a woman. I need to have women's

570
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,960
Speaker 1: reproductive organs, or I'm not a woman. And women don't

571
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 1: marry women. Women are not with women. That's not a

572
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 1: thing that happens. So I have to find a man.

573
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 1: A long time ago, right, it was the thirties. There's

574
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 1: still a lot of gay stuff going on. No, definitely,

575
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 1: But in terms of just like what support system would

576
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 1: she have had to try and explore a different lifestyle. Yeah,

577
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 1: And I don't know if Gerda felt the same way

578
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 1: about like, well, you're a woman now and I'm not

579
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 1: attracted to women that way. Um, so I feel like

580
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 1: you're my sister and we'll just have a different relationship

581
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 1: than we did, or if Gerda was even in her

582
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,719
Speaker 1: mind going, oh, I thought we were good, but you

583
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 1: feel like that's not what a woman does, so we

584
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 1: can't be together anymore. So that might have been some

585
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 1: heartache as well. I like your idea about what a

586
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 1: woman is is so rigid and what a woman does

587
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 1: is so rigid that you can't be as free with

588
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 1: your new gender expression and as well as you couldn't

589
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 1: be free with your old gender expression either because you

590
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 1: were having this dysmorphia going on. So that's the that's

591
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 1: sort of the extra tragedy to me about Lily's story

592
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,479
Speaker 1: is that extra layer of like, well, if I'm going

593
00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 1: to do this, I have to dress this way, I

594
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 1: have to act this way, I have to be this

595
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 1: type of presentation. It's tough, um. And of course we

596
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 1: can only speak to it as sis people you know,

597
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 1: outside looking in and from what we've read and learned

598
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 1: and and listened and heard um. But so I can't

599
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 1: know what that experience is like, but I can know

600
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 1: that it's easy to uh, to validate that experience and

601
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 1: support it. It's not hard. Genders super fluid and a

602
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 1: lot a lot of the times. What I imagine is

603
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 1: the idea is just like, well, because gender is a construct, right,

604
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 1: it's what a woman is. We made that up, right,

605
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 1: Like you wear dresses, you have long hair, you wear makeup,

606
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 1: you wear heels. You know a lot of his presentation,

607
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 1: some of its behavior, but it's all we decided these things, right,

608
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 1: and like not consciously. I didn't decide that at any

609
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 1: point in my life, but it's the world I was

610
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 1: born into, and we all kind of social contract style, uh,

611
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 1: sort of have this idea. And I think it's great

612
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 1: that we're like bending that idea and kind of breaking

613
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 1: it down a little because it's so absurd. There's no

614
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 1: there's no law there, there's no nature. When you say, like,

615
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 1: by nature, women are this and men are that. No,

616
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 1: they're not. That's insane. Um. By nature, we're all naked,

617
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 1: you know, so so it's it's that's silly, um. And

618
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 1: also we it is our own nature to create an

619
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 1: advance and change and if and we have a lot

620
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 1: of medicine and things that we do to our bodies,

621
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 1: either surgically or medicinally. Uh, which, hey, that's nature too

622
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 1: because we can do that and we are nature. So anyway,

623
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 1: it's just it's a very clear cut and dry scenario

624
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 1: to me that gender is fluid and people are exploring that,

625
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 1: and I think that's awesome. And in fucking twenty years,

626
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 1: if a bunch of people who you know are teenagers

627
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 1: now grow up and say you never should have let

628
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 1: me done that, then we'll have another conversation. But for

629
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 1: adults now to be coming in and saying, kids, you

630
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 1: can't explore your gender, funk off, Like, are you kidding me? Well,

631
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:12,839
Speaker 1: some people now saying that it should be illegal at

632
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,959
Speaker 1: any age to take a hormone therapy or any any

633
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 1: transition type surgery or anything, which is it's outrageous. It's outrageous. Nuts,

634
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:26,799
Speaker 1: it's outrageous, And message me. I will tell you why

635
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:30,799
Speaker 1: it's outrageous. He'll write you a very long message. Absolutely,

636
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:35,280
Speaker 1: and honestly, yeah, it's this podcast. You know what side

637
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 1: we're on. I don't think we have any fine, I

638
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 1: don't energy. I mean that spitefully, like honestly, like if

639
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 1: you are someone who as I mean honestly when I

640
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 1: talk about two thousand nine and when I was seventeen

641
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 1: years old and these things, I definitely had different opinions

642
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 1: about this kind of stuff than I do now. And

643
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 1: I'm glad to have learned, because who the fund doesn't

644
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 1: like learning? Who? Why? Why the hell would I want

645
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 1: to be the same person now that I was at

646
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:01,279
Speaker 1: seventeen years old? My god, thank god, I'm not the same.

647
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 1: So if you know, if you genuinely like I want

648
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 1: to think differently but I just can't figure it out,

649
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,360
Speaker 1: I will totally have that conversation with you again the

650
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 1: best of my ability. I'm not going to be right

651
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 1: about everything, but well, yeah, and again it was like

652
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:17,319
Speaker 1: a good faith conversation. I don't want to any like

653
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:21,799
Speaker 1: essentialism about what kind of vagina you have. It's not

654
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:25,439
Speaker 1: interested in that conversation at all. But but yeah, it's

655
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Speaker 1: just it's just so interesting to see how many times

656
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 1: in human history we've up ended gender. And women were like,

657
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 1: I'm aware of pants, and football players were like I'm

658
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 1: gonna take ballet, and you know what I mean. And

659
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 1: David Bowie's out here where in dresses and people are

660
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 1: like it's sexy and Prince is sort of non binary

661
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,879
Speaker 1: and everyone want to fuck him and like it's just

662
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:50,879
Speaker 1: and that that's all about your gender expression, right, It's like,

663
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 1: how what clothes am I wearing? What do I want

664
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Speaker 1: you to think of me when you look at me?

665
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:56,239
Speaker 1: I don't want you to quite be able to put

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Speaker 1: me in a box. And so that was sort of

667
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 1: the vibe of that, I think, but it was a

668
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 1: lot of chafing at and we don't like that, Like

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Speaker 1: human beings do not like a cage, even if it's

670
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:12,359
Speaker 1: an invisible one. We chafe at that. And we'll find

671
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 1: a way too to bend that ship, you know. And

672
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 1: and it's there's something about identity to that, like you know,

673
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:23,359
Speaker 1: if you're assist person, of course you can't wrap your

674
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 1: head around that's what it's like to be a transperse.

675
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:29,320
Speaker 1: Of course you can't. I can't. You can't, And that's fine.

676
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:31,760
Speaker 1: You can think of that and go wow, I certainly

677
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,399
Speaker 1: could never be decided to be a woman, and like, yeah,

678
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:37,359
Speaker 1: that's a not how it works, and be of course

679
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 1: you can't because you're not. But if you've ever had

680
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 1: something about yourself or just a truth that you knew

681
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 1: that was just like clawing inside of you to get out.

682
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 1: Like that's a very difficult life to live and and

683
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 1: it could be about any you just find something small

684
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:55,880
Speaker 1: and and just blow that up. Try to try to

685
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 1: make it proportionate to what someone might be experiencing, you know,

686
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 1: live ving in what they feel like is not their

687
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 1: own body. That's right. And every day, in countless ways,

688
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:10,799
Speaker 1: people are getting you wrong yes yeah, and telling you

689
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:12,759
Speaker 1: you're wrong about yourself, that they know you better than

690
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 1: you do. Come on, stop that, people, just stop. It's

691
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:18,880
Speaker 1: not hard. It's not going to change your life in

692
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Speaker 1: the slightest. That's the other thing too, It will not

693
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:26,320
Speaker 1: more than likely not at all affect you. I promise.

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Speaker 1: Thank you again to Age for this beautiful email. It

695
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 1: was wonderfully written. You're so honest, You're so vulnerable with us,

696
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 1: and I really appreciate that. That means a lot that

697
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 1: that episode touched you so much and spoke to you

698
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 1: so much. I think that's a really important experience to

699
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 1: highlight and thank you for sharing it with us. Well,

700
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 1: we better take a break, yeah, um, and we will

701
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:57,760
Speaker 1: come back with a couple more messages. Right after these messages, Hey, everybody,

702
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 1: welcome back to the show. I'm just still thinking that

703
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:06,879
Speaker 1: we should have given everyone a funny voice. I think

704
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:11,839
Speaker 1: I think historical voices are hilarious, but our contemporaries will

705
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 1: We'll leave them. We'll just leave them alone. Okay, fair enough.

706
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:17,880
Speaker 1: Imagine that all of these emails have people reading them,

707
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 1: just voices so beautiful that we can't replicate them. The

708
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:28,880
Speaker 1: beautiful They're like Shakespearean actors. We are not doing them justice. Absolutely. Um. Okay,

709
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 1: So we got an email from Rachel, uh subject line

710
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Speaker 1: excellent podcast. A little clue, then pun in the subject line,

711
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:42,879
Speaker 1: this is Marty and Rachel. She says, hello there. I'm

712
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 1: a big fan of the show and I've been listening

713
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 1: from the beginning. Y'all are the cutest and I adore

714
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 1: your banter, absolute hashtag couple of goals. I'm blushing. In

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Speaker 1: The Giant Dick That Changed Chinese History Forever, episode, Diana

716
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,760
Speaker 1: at a joke about using eggs instead of rice flour

717
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 1: for construction because they're so difficult to scrape out of

718
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 1: the pan. True. I live in Prague, where the most

719
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 1: iconic site is probably the Charles Bridge. Heard of it,

720
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:16,319
Speaker 1: never been there, but dying to go. It has long

721
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 1: been believed that eggs were used in the mortar when

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00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 1: it was created. There is even one village, Velvety that

723
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 1: remains the butt of jokes because it is said that

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Speaker 1: when the king requested eggs be donated for the project,

725
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 1: they sent boiled eggs to prevent breakage. That is amazing.

726
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 1: Oh you dummy, like, no, it's the yolk we wanted you,

727
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:46,320
Speaker 1: bastard Velvey. They want us to send eggs, well, jeeze,

728
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 1: but we don't want us send broken eggs. Got it?

729
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 1: Got a perfect idea. Rachel goes on to say modern

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00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 1: testing has shown that there are egg proteins in the

731
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:02,760
Speaker 1: fourteenth century Lime, More, confirming the long held belief Diana

732
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 1: was onto something with her suggestion of eggs as a

733
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Speaker 1: construction material. Look at that regular engineer. Yeah, who said

734
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:11,840
Speaker 1: I couldn't engineer, and probably a lot of my teachers.

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00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 1: I'm an idea girl, okay, Rachel says, I'm including a

736
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Speaker 1: picture of my pug. Thank you. If there's ever a

737
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,760
Speaker 1: pet to be included, please include that. Send a picture

738
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Speaker 1: of your pets, please, but this one at a special point,

739
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 1: Rachel says, pugs were originally lapdogs for Chinese royalty, and

740
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 1: it's believed Chin Chi Wang destroyed the written records of

741
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 1: how they were created. As someone who loves the breed

742
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 1: and is a major proponent of rescue, this is probably

743
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 1: for the best, very true. We don't need to make

744
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,400
Speaker 1: more of these poor dogs. They can't even breathe like.

745
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 1: That is so cute, though, looking forward to hearing you

746
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 1: cover all the ridiculous romances the world has to offer

747
00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 1: Rachel and Murphy the pug he s. I also love

748
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 1: all the fringe talk. I knew there had to be

749
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:08,359
Speaker 1: one of y'all. I didn't mind all that. I've been

750
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 1: an avid fringe attendant since I was a teen, as

751
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 1: the festival coincided with my birthday. When I lived in

752
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 1: the States, I had a tradition of celebrating with a

753
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:20,319
Speaker 1: fringe nerd lesque show. Nerd Lesque is so fun. It's

754
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:25,319
Speaker 1: like nerdy burlesque. It's un Actually, this year, when we

755
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:27,760
Speaker 1: did five Fists Back to the Future, one of those

756
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:31,800
Speaker 1: burlesque performers created a doc Brown thinking cat from the fifties.

757
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:35,240
Speaker 1: That so cool, and she was like, I actually already

758
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:38,840
Speaker 1: do a Dalek burlesque number, and now she wants to

759
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:42,759
Speaker 1: do like a sexy doc Doc Brown, which I would love.

760
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 1: I just love it. So anyway, look up nerd lesque

761
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 1: if there's one in your area. It's definitely worth seeing.

762
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 1: Rachel says Progus Fringe is in late summer. If you're

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00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 1: okay with lots of animals, I'm always happy to host.

764
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:57,439
Speaker 1: First of all, I insist on lots of animals. Absolutely.

765
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 1: If I'm not a puppy pile or kitty pile, I

766
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 1: don't want to go. Absolutely no. This is great. This

767
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 1: is actually amazing because from listeners so far, we're staying

768
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 1: with Robert Smith, not from the Cure in Scotland, between

769
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:14,319
Speaker 1: Glasgow and Edinburgh. We're standing in Munich and getting a

770
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:18,399
Speaker 1: beer with Elaney Papadopolis. We're going to Singapore to see

771
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:20,799
Speaker 1: Dominica and then we're going to stay in Prague with

772
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 1: Rachel and Murphy the Pug. So we already have a

773
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 1: world tour going. We've got to get on this. We

774
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 1: need to find some folks in France, need a couple

775
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:32,799
Speaker 1: of London and Ireland. So if you're out there, let's

776
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 1: talk about Canada. Don't forget the big write in letter

777
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:38,840
Speaker 1: campaign to iHeart Radio. You got to tell them to

778
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:43,320
Speaker 1: put us on a world tour. World's are miracle at

779
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:45,799
Speaker 1: street like bags of mail coming in. They're just gonna

780
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 1: dump them out and be like everyone all over the

781
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:51,440
Speaker 1: world is demanding a live world tour of ridiculous romance.

782
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 1: That's what we need to happen. Who even writes a

783
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:58,240
Speaker 1: letter anymore, that's how passionate they are pen to paper.

784
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 1: All right, this is a really important email we got

785
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 1: from the Hobo Demon. This one was an email, and

786
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 1: the Hobo Demon decided to help us out with our

787
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 1: Anti Oakley episode because we talked about the possibility that

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00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 1: maybe Annie Oakley died from lead poisoning from all her

789
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 1: time around the bullets. Well, and of course there was

790
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 1: the idea that uh sometimes shot could get into food

791
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 1: and that could poison you. It was a whole thing. Well,

792
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:35,840
Speaker 1: the Hobo Demon sent us an incredibly long and detailed

793
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:40,880
Speaker 1: description of quote good news and bad news about the

794
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:45,279
Speaker 1: possibility that Anti Oakby died of lead poisoning. The good

795
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:47,360
Speaker 1: news is that the effects of lead poisoning are highly

796
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 1: dependent on what kind of lead you're going to be

797
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 1: exposed to. In particular, water soluble lead salts for carry

798
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 1: on birds such as vultures and condors, because they digest

799
00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 1: things using stronger assets than humans. Using a parasitic acid

800
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:04,799
Speaker 1: solution mixed from vinegar and hydrogen peroxide, the waste from

801
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 1: that is the flagration of the fuel air mixture, would

802
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 1: be efficiently converted into which rings me to part three

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00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 1: of this little essay. We can be somewhat confident that

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00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:15,759
Speaker 1: Annie Oakley didn't suffer lead tensions. Exposure to damage a

805
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 1: person's capacity to do people in good involves exposed. Understanding

806
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 1: of lead poisoning as advanced in the last few decades

807
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 1: enough that we consider my older cases of low enough

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00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 1: now that we could have considered everyone alive during the

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00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 1: nineteen seventies to be afflicted. And then to wrap it up,

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00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 1: he says, sorry that got rambily. The summary I'd endorsed

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Speaker 1: for thirty seconds or less is Ariosolized lead from poorly

812
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 1: ventilated indoor ranges or cars in the twentieth century are

813
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:42,879
Speaker 1: more harmful than eating lead, but still don't do it.

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00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 1: Annie Oakley probably died of something else. It takes a

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00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 1: lot of lead poisoning to be fatal, and there are

816
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 1: plenty of ways survivable illnesses can still leave a person destroyed,

817
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 1: but nothing we know about Antiokley's life suggests that she

818
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 1: was suffering more than the average person of her era

819
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 1: from lead poisoning. Well, thank you. I did not expect

820
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 1: a college course in lead poisoning, but I am I

821
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:10,360
Speaker 1: learned something in that even too. I know we just

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00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:12,879
Speaker 1: gave you all this summary, but no, yeah, there's definitely more.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of engineers, I'm getting engineer vibes from the Hobo Demon.

824
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:20,360
Speaker 1: He was like, I'm gonna be very thorough give you everything.

825
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 1: Possibly physicist, possibly doctor doctor, I don't know, scientists of

826
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 1: some kind, smart one t one what I'm getting here

827
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 1: than demon? Absolutely thank you Hobo Demon for sending that.

828
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Speaker 1: And now we can say definitively that Annie Oakley did

829
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 1: not die of lead poisoning. Heard it here first, What

830
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 1: is our story? And we're sticking to us and Hobo

831
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Speaker 1: Demon correct the age old mystery of Annie freaking Oakley's death.

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00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:53,800
Speaker 1: All right, and our final message for this mail bag

833
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:58,440
Speaker 1: episode is going to be from Jed Salts, who reached

834
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 1: out through email to say just a note to let

835
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 1: you know I enjoy your podcast very much. Thank you.

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00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 1: Some favorites are Frederick Douglas. Awesome, Calico, Jack and Maximilian

837
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:16,280
Speaker 1: and Carlotta. Thank you, Jed. Obviously, you may be interested

838
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:20,440
Speaker 1: to know that Passeo de la Reforma was originally Pasto

839
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:25,400
Speaker 1: de la Imperatrees to honor Carlotta. This main boulevard was

840
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:28,920
Speaker 1: laid out by Maximilian to connect Mexico City Center with

841
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 1: their palace at Chapoltepec Castle. Awesome. That is really interesting. Yeah,

842
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:36,799
Speaker 1: there was. I mean, you know, there was a lot

843
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:39,320
Speaker 1: of love for these two and they did get some

844
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 1: some things named after them. I did not know about

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Speaker 1: this reforma. Uh. He ends with there are other good

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