1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: What's happened? Everybody? Welcome into Monday edition of Texans All 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: Access from the Honday Texans Radio Studio. I'm your host, 3 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: John Harris, Football analyst, sideline reporter. It's so glad to 4 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:12,879 Speaker 1: be joining you the day after Christmas, two days after 5 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:16,959 Speaker 1: a wonderful win in Tennessee over the Nashville Titans at 6 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans, nineteen to fourteen, two and zero on the 7 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 1: road in the division. It's kind of nice. Two one 8 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 1: and one in the division, hold on to the seventeen 9 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 1: point lead against the Colts, and you're three and one 10 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:32,159 Speaker 1: in division, which would be the best record in the 11 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:35,879 Speaker 1: division against the division. But I digress. Yes, it's been 12 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: a tough season at two twelve and one, but a 13 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 1: good win nonetheless. And this opportunity to talk with Ondre 14 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:47,959 Speaker 1: where about this game and hang around for the end 15 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:53,160 Speaker 1: where I asked Dre about his afternoon spent with something 16 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:57,639 Speaker 1: in his lap. Just take a listen, Dre joins us 17 00:00:57,640 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 1: and Dre, what about that drive by Mills? He shook 18 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 1: off a shaky third quarter to get the go ahead 19 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 1: drive in the fourth. Your thoughts, Yeah, I mean we 20 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 1: it was. It was a great drive. Conversions just kind 21 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 1: of complimenting the defense there, and they kept giving this 22 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 1: offense so many opportunities to put the game away to 23 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 1: be in a position to win the game at the 24 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 1: end all of it, and I thought it was just 25 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 1: an overall good, complimentary game in terms of offense and defense, 26 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:28,759 Speaker 1: even throwing special teams in there. In terms of field 27 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 1: position at times, it was a game that could be had. 28 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:34,399 Speaker 1: And the way the Texans had played the previous two 29 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 1: weeks against the Cowboys and the Chiefs were as beaten 30 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 1: up as the Titans, where you go into that game 31 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 1: feeling that they really had a pretty good chance and 32 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 1: they obviously took advantage of it. Dre You and I 33 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 1: both Greater Houston high school football products, and I feel 34 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 1: like we're watching some of our brethren and the way 35 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: they're playing with Ocnquill from a Leaf Jerry Hughes from 36 00:01:56,680 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 1: out of the Fobend district, Jalen Petrie from Stafford, feels like, 37 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 1: and I know Jerry's not a young guy, but it 38 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 1: feels like the young guys on this team, and a 39 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 1: lot of them coming from the city of Houston, have 40 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 1: really stood up, especially defensively. They hold Derrick Henry after 41 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 1: the forty eight yard run to about seventy yards on 42 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:17,959 Speaker 1: about twenty carries after the run. What do you think 43 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 1: about the way those players have played, in particular the 44 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 1: ones close to home here in Obo and Petrie in particular. Yeah, 45 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:26,399 Speaker 1: and you're talking about two guys that have really kind 46 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 1: of cemented themselves, as you know, with the future of 47 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 1: this team. I would think Obo has just played some 48 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 1: outstanding football, you could just tell and watching how the 49 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 1: game transpires, and when he's on the field, when a 50 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 1: guy just you know, a player like himself just loves 51 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 1: to play the game. I mean, he is one hundred 52 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 1: miles an hour every time the ball is snapped. He's 53 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 1: given effort every single snap, loves the game. And then 54 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 1: with Jalen Petrie, I think when most rookies have hit 55 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 1: a wall and start to slow down or can't wait 56 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 1: to see the finish line or whatever, he seems to 57 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 1: be playing his best football. He gets better every time 58 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 1: he's on the field. He's playing like he's been in 59 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:08,919 Speaker 1: the league about three or four years, rather than obviously 60 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:12,639 Speaker 1: it being his first year. So I don't know what 61 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 1: Pro Bowl qualifications or who does what, who votes on what, 62 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:19,119 Speaker 1: but if his name's not in it, then they ought 63 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:21,919 Speaker 1: to stop doing it. Trade. The Texans take on the 64 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:25,079 Speaker 1: Jaguars on Sunday as you know, noon kickoff for that, 65 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 1: then the wrap up against Indianapolis. So here they are. 66 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 1: If they win one more game and the Bears don't 67 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 1: win any down the stretch. With these final two weeks, 68 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 1: the Texans don't have the number one draft pick anymore, 69 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: and a lot of fans are saying, well, wait a minute, 70 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 1: don't we want that after a bad season. You can't 71 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 1: tell people to not play. You got to just play 72 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 1: and win, right, I mean, how do you take this, 73 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 1: how do you regard this? What is your overall opinion 74 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 1: of the situation here. I'd like to take that fan 75 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 1: at things that were drop him right in the Texans, 76 00:03:57,720 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 1: right in the middle of the Texans locker room, and 77 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:03,119 Speaker 1: have him give that just see to see how how 78 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 1: well that goes over with that group of guys. I mean, 79 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 1: they're playing for their futures. They're playing for you know, 80 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 1: right now and in future years and so on and 81 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 1: so forth, so they're giving maximum effort. I've been on 82 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 1: teams guys where guys have folded the tent and it 83 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 1: was you know, you know you're not gonna make the playoffs. 84 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 1: At some point in the season, you folded up and 85 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:25,559 Speaker 1: uh as a as a as a result, you're getting 86 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 1: whipped down the stretch. That's not the case with this team. 87 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: So I think it goes UH. It says a lot 88 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 1: about the coaching staff. I think it says a lot 89 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: about the players on the team, UH and everybody involved 90 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 1: that they're still playing this hard uh down the stretch 91 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 1: of the season because the caliber of teams that they're playing, 92 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 1: or three teams that were headed to the playoffs and 93 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:50,279 Speaker 1: the Cowboys, Chiefs and and UH maybe not so much anymore, 94 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:52,919 Speaker 1: but the Titans as well. You're throwing that that batch. 95 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 1: But those are three teams that you think would be 96 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 1: in the playoffs, and the Texas have gone toe to 97 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 1: toe with with all three. Uh. And I think that 98 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 1: goes a long way saying this coaching staff has him 99 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 1: ready to play each and every week. Dre Mark and 100 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 1: I have been talking about this week for both the 101 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: Titans and the Jaguars. I'm gonna I think we're convinced 102 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 1: the Jaguars I gotta come here and play. They they 103 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 1: they're a young group. They got to keep playing together. 104 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 1: What would you do if you were Mike Vrabel. You're 105 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 1: on a five five game losing streak. Now is I 106 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 1: wanted this five game losing streak and you play the 107 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:27,160 Speaker 1: Cowboys on a short week in a game that doesn't matter. 108 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:29,280 Speaker 1: The more I think about this, the more I feel 109 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:31,159 Speaker 1: like I know what I'm gonna do with my team. 110 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 1: But what would you do if you're Mike Vrabel? If 111 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:36,479 Speaker 1: you got all that going on and you want to 112 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 1: try and get some good reps in good playing before 113 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:41,160 Speaker 1: you go to Duval County play team that beat you 114 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:43,359 Speaker 1: by a couple of touchdown and it wasn't even that close. 115 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 1: What do you do if you're Mike Vrabel this week 116 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 1: against the Cowboys. First thing I do is I'm gonna 117 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 1: start Joze Dobbs. I mean, because that gives me, that 118 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:54,919 Speaker 1: gives me the ability to throw the football. That's the first, 119 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:58,119 Speaker 1: the first move I'm gonna make in terms of getting 120 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 1: some stability there. You know, he had played a whole lot, 121 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:03,160 Speaker 1: but when he's played, he's played well. He played well 122 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:06,919 Speaker 1: in the preseason for Pittsburgh, so well so good that 123 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 1: he was picked up. He's on the practice roster in 124 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 1: Detroit before coming to Tennessee, but he kind of he 125 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:17,039 Speaker 1: understands things. He's a smart and I'm talking super smart kid, 126 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 1: you talk rocket science stuff that he's studied at the 127 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: University of Tennessee. So he's that smart. He gonna he's 128 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 1: grasped their offense. I'm betting already after being there just 129 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: maybe a week or so. But that's the move I 130 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 1: would make first and foremost to give myself the ability 131 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 1: to at least throw the football when I when I 132 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:38,839 Speaker 1: want to do it. Andre Ware joining us dre looking 133 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 1: around the league a little bit. Well, actually, let's start 134 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 1: with this Sunday's opponent, because the Jaguars defeated the Jets 135 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:48,039 Speaker 1: on Thursday night, and I guess the question is, and 136 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:51,719 Speaker 1: they control their destiny obviously down the stretch here, how 137 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 1: good are they? How good can they be? Trevor Lawrence 138 00:06:55,600 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 1: starting to find the rhythm here, they are surging. They're 139 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:02,919 Speaker 1: gonna put the stiff arm on the Titans in all likelihood, 140 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 1: but you never know. You're gonna play the games. We'll 141 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 1: see how it goes. Stranger things have happened. Remember the 142 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 1: Colts losing at Jacksonville in the final game of the 143 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 1: regular season last year, so you tell me how good 144 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 1: the Jags can be, Well, I think they've got to 145 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 1: I think they can be really, really good. Mark, how 146 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 1: good are they right now? So good that nobody wants 147 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 1: to play them? If they were able to get themselves 148 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 1: into the playoffs? How good can they be going forward? 149 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 1: They're gonna add some components to an already talented young 150 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 1: football team, And so I give them a head start 151 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 1: on everybody in the division, a leg up right now, 152 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 1: even with you know, being tied with Tennessee in terms 153 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 1: of record. I give them a leg up because they 154 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 1: got it right at quarterback. Nobody in the division has 155 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 1: gotten it right at quarterback yet, So when until then 156 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 1: you got a favor Jacksonville. I don't know that anybody 157 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 1: expected them to get off to the start that they 158 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 1: did with Doug Peterson coming in, but I think everybody 159 00:07:57,400 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 1: may have looked at them and said, Hey, they're talented 160 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 1: enough to do exactly what they're doing right now, and 161 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 1: that's run off a string of games, close the gap 162 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 1: with Tennessee, to tie it up for the leading the division, 163 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 1: and then get it to a point where the last 164 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 1: game of the season matters. The regular season does matter 165 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 1: in the NFL, and the Jags have proven that to 166 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 1: be so Okay, I know what I'm asking here, but 167 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 1: I'm talking about right now, right right now, Tampa Bay 168 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 1: Buccaneers and Miami Dolphins go into a playoff game. Which 169 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 1: quarterback are you trusting? Right now? More? Tom Brady to 170 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 1: a tongue violois, thinking about what kind of question? Is 171 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 1: it the greatest, the greatest quarterback of all time or 172 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 1: a guy who about That's why I'm asking it right 173 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:49,079 Speaker 1: now right by talk about the credentials Tom Brady, the 174 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 1: seventh Super Bowl Tom Brady, he's talking about right this minute, 175 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 1: how he's playing. And I'd still take him, but maybe 176 00:08:57,280 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 1: not until you yesterday, but you know, to show some 177 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 1: cracks in the foundation a little bit yesterday, and every 178 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 1: quarterback's going to have a game like that. But I 179 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: would still take Tom with the experience. If you get 180 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 1: healthy around him, I think he's going to play much better, 181 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 1: especially upfront. And they lost another offensive lineman yesterday to injury, 182 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:21,319 Speaker 1: I think to a knee injury, so that's that's been 183 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 1: the problem. I think Tom's still as talented. I think 184 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:26,599 Speaker 1: physically he can still put the ball in places that 185 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 1: most can't. But it's the health around him that is 186 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:34,319 Speaker 1: starting to reflect on him. And that's all playing quarterback 187 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 1: is how good are you around the position to make 188 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 1: that position look good. It was wild yesterday because they're 189 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 1: playing Arizona, which is kind of a dead team right now, 190 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 1: but they wanted to win yesterday primetime game. They were 191 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:49,679 Speaker 1: putting together an effort. McSorley, we can get to him 192 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 1: another time, but Brady's down ten. Brady in the Buccaneers 193 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 1: down ten in the fourth quarter, and he just makes 194 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 1: the plays. And Collinsworth made a good point. Look, you 195 00:09:57,400 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 1: don't have it. It's two years ago. You had Gronk 196 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 1: and you had Antoni Brown. You had massive weaponry there 197 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 1: that you don't have today. Hold on, you've got Mike 198 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 1: Evans and Chris Godwin. You got Fournette, Rashod White, crime 199 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:15,599 Speaker 1: a river about you had. Yeah, that's the problem. You 200 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 1: can have all the skilled position players that you want 201 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:22,319 Speaker 1: if you can't protect. And you're not talking about I mean, 202 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 1: Tom's never been fleet of foot where he's gonna make 203 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 1: somebody miss in the pocket and still get the ball out. 204 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 1: It needs to be somewhat clean, uh, for just a 205 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 1: fraction of a second or two and then the balls out. 206 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 1: But when you don't have that and you're seeing constant 207 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 1: pressure and you're playing with guys that you know in 208 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 1: terms of running backs that aren't picking up when when 209 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 1: Fournette's not in the game, they're susceptible to giving up 210 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 1: sex with and not being able to protect him from 211 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 1: the running back spot. So Gronk's gone to his security 212 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 1: blanket in the red zone. That's not there this year, 213 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 1: it's always been there or the past however many years, 214 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 1: ten or so years. That may tough to play quarterback. Okay, 215 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:03,719 Speaker 1: I've got one for both of you. I want to 216 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 1: get your gut reaction to this and then tell me 217 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 1: what you do. Okay, I'm just gonna read this to you. Okay, 218 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 1: two first round picks, oh gosh, two second round picks, yes, 219 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 1: a fifth round pick three, hold on three additional players. 220 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 1: One hundred and sixty five million dollars guaranteed. That is 221 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 1: what the Broncos gave up for Russell Wilson. Here's the 222 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 1: question for both of you. Dre you first, unfortunately the 223 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:36,679 Speaker 1: deal is done. What do you do now? If you're 224 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 1: the Broncos? Hey, real quick, and I'll answer that question. 225 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 1: But you're talking to a guy that's addicted the family feud. 226 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:49,679 Speaker 1: So at that moment I felt like I hit the bugge's. 227 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 1: Steve Harvey said, what are you doing? Gave you the look? Yeah, 228 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 1: so what do you do now? Because it isn't oh, 229 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 1: I'm not doing that deal. It is it's done, and 230 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:05,679 Speaker 1: you're saddled with him, and he looks awful. I mean 231 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 1: it looks he looks. What do you guys do? Dre, 232 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 1: what do you do? I think you gotta give it 233 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 1: one more year at the least. I just don't know 234 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 1: if how well coached, you know, if they're well coached 235 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 1: or coached well enough to actually win um In times, 236 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 1: especially early in the season, they just looked like, you know, 237 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:30,960 Speaker 1: they were being outsmarted at every every turn in a 238 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 1: football game. And so that in and of itself, when 239 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:37,560 Speaker 1: you're ill prepared, when you when the other team seems 240 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:39,959 Speaker 1: to know what movie you're gonna make before you make it, 241 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:43,959 Speaker 1: that's that's tough. And so I think you've got to 242 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 1: let this thing take another turn in twenty three and 243 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 1: see where you are and after that, if it looks 244 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 1: anything familiar to what it looks or how it looks, right, 245 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 1: now that's when you've got to make some changes. How 246 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 1: much money can you save by either trading him or 247 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 1: cutting in him or having him take a pay cut, 248 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 1: And then you look for new leadership as well. So Dre, look, 249 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:11,439 Speaker 1: you talk about fit a lot, and I agree with this. 250 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 1: And evidence is there in the form of Baker Mayfield 251 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 1: and Sean McVay. And I know it didn't go great 252 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 1: at Green Bay last Monday night, but man, oh man, 253 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:23,079 Speaker 1: two of the games have been outstanding for Baker Mayfield. 254 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 1: And I was wondering yesterday, what if you dropped Russell 255 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 1: Wilson in the middle of Ram's Kingdom with Sean McVay 256 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 1: coaching Russell Wilson right now? Would that be a fit? 257 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 1: I don't know. To me, it looks like Russell Wilson 258 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:35,960 Speaker 1: doesn't see it the same way anymore on the field, 259 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:38,200 Speaker 1: But I don't live in his body. But what do 260 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 1: you make a fit in this situation? And maybe Wilson 261 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 1: needs another offensive coordinator or something else. Yeah, And that 262 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 1: may be on the way as well. They may be 263 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 1: ask Nathaniel Hackett to just concentrate on game day or 264 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 1: in game stuff rather than also call in play. So 265 00:13:57,200 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 1: he may be forced to give up play calling duties 266 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 1: and and do that. But yeah, it fits everything fit 267 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 1: And you know, you look at what Baker Mayfield is 268 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 1: able to do the fit and then you match it 269 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 1: with the right coach, uh and fit being the right offense, 270 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 1: but the right coach that knows how to coach it 271 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 1: up and call it in game. That that is all 272 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 1: that matters. And so you have guys that are doing 273 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 1: it for the first time that magically they're able to 274 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 1: move their teams, and then you have guys that have 275 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 1: done it for a while that still can't get it right. Um, 276 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 1: it's it's everything, and it's trust involved in that as well. 277 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 1: When you look at what Baker's doing, I don't see 278 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 1: You've got a deep ball thrower and a guy that 279 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 1: likes to push the ball down the field, and Russell 280 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 1: Wilson and a West Coast offense that is check it down, 281 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 1: take the short to intermediate throws and live with those 282 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 1: and let's move the move the team down the field 283 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 1: in that manner. Uh. It's it's like oil and water 284 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 1: right now in Denver, and it's it's tough to watch, 285 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 1: to be quite honest, all right, for both of you 286 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 1: as well. We get to this point of this season 287 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 1: where the playoffs are on the horizon. You know, some 288 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 1: teams have already clinched in the playoffs, and there's always 289 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 1: that one team in both conference that you look at 290 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 1: and go, PAUW tell you what, I don't want to 291 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 1: play those guys right now. I don't want to see 292 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 1: them anywhere on my playoff grid at all. Who's that 293 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 1: team either either conference? Who's that team for you? Guys 294 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 1: that you look at if you're a if you're a Buffalo, 295 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 1: or you're a Kansas City or you're a Philadelphia that 296 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 1: you go, you know what, I don't want to play 297 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 1: that team. Those guys scare me, even though the record 298 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 1: might not be what it is. Who's that one team 299 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 1: for you? So you're looking for like an eight and 300 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 1: seven to seven and eight team right now right maybe 301 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 1: not even in the play maybe not even maybe they're 302 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 1: just in the hunt right now, but it's a team 303 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 1: you're sitting there going, I don't want to face them 304 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 1: at all. I'll give you one. It's a huge brand name, 305 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 1: but they don't have the record. There's sub five hundred 306 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 1: current on a roll. The Green Bay Packers, Ladies and gentlemen. 307 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 1: Matt Lafleur has not lost a game in the month 308 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 1: of December and his career in Green Bay. Who Yeah, 309 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 1: and they are charging hard right now for the postseason. 310 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 1: They took apart the Dolphins in the fourth quarter yesterday 311 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 1: look tas psychological problems. I don't know what the heck happened, 312 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 1: but guess what they came up with the clutch plays 313 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 1: in a game where the Dolphins really needed to get 314 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 1: right and they couldn't do it. I think the Packers 315 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 1: are going to be a scary team in the postseason. 316 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 1: They will not host a game because they're gonna be 317 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 1: a wildcard team if they make it, but I like 318 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 1: their chances to make it. They'll play the Vikings this weekend. 319 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 1: Then who do they have in the wrap up? They've 320 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 1: got Uh, let's see they play the Lions in the 321 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 1: last game. Yeah, at home? So I like their ja. Yeah. 322 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 1: Both both those games are home games for the Packers, 323 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 1: and a good one. I would go. I've got one 324 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 1: in each. I would go the Jags because they're young 325 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 1: enough to not know what they don't know. They don't 326 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 1: know any better, and they're just gonna go out and 327 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 1: play hard and and hey, it feels good to win 328 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 1: right now, and everybody's riding a high that opening week, 329 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 1: and with it being the Jags, you don't you don't 330 00:16:58,240 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 1: want to be the team that they upset. And then 331 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 1: how you're you know, you got to answer all these questions. 332 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:06,640 Speaker 1: So that's that's an aggravating matchup for anybody that gets them, 333 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 1: if they're able to make the postseason, and then another 334 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 1: team that's just fickled beyond belief. But then you look 335 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:14,639 Speaker 1: up and as Bill Parcels would say, your record is 336 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 1: what you what you know, what it says you are. 337 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 1: You are what your record says you are. That's the 338 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings. I mean, they played to my standing football. 339 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:25,399 Speaker 1: Who wants to line up across from Justin Jefferson that 340 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:27,680 Speaker 1: the clip he's going. I think he's gonna go over 341 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 1: two thousand yards in the last couple of games, because 342 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:33,200 Speaker 1: he's just been at one hundred thirty, one hundred and 343 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 1: fifty here and there for the last couple of weeks. 344 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:39,679 Speaker 1: I think he I think he finds some receiver finally 345 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 1: goes over two thousand yards, and I think he's got 346 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 1: a pretty good chance to do it. But I don't 347 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to face the Minnesota Vikings. You don't 348 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 1: know which team's gonna show up if you're a fan 349 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 1: of theirs, but if the right one shows up, then 350 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 1: you're you're in a football game. Jefferson's the best receiver 351 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:57,880 Speaker 1: in the league right now, right, yes, okay, right, yes, 352 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 1: no doubt there's about it. He's ridiculous, all right, Dre 353 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 1: tax act Texas Bowl coming up. You're gonna call it 354 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 1: on ESPN Wednesday night at eight. Johnny's got the radio call. 355 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:12,879 Speaker 1: Look at you, guys. I'm gonna watch on TV at 356 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:15,399 Speaker 1: home and have the radio on and just compare, like, 357 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 1: how both you guys do here. It's Texas Tech and 358 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:21,920 Speaker 1: Old Miss. You're gonna be great. I'll have I'll have 359 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:25,199 Speaker 1: a complete report the next day on Texas All Access 360 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:28,119 Speaker 1: at six. So tell me, Dre your thoughts on the 361 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:30,399 Speaker 1: matchup as you dive a little bit deeper into it 362 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:33,360 Speaker 1: with Old Miss taken on Texas Tech. Yeah, I love 363 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 1: the matchup. I love what fans are gonna get. And 364 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 1: when the matchup came down, you immediately start to think offense. 365 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 1: Old Miss can run it. One of the better teams 366 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:46,399 Speaker 1: in the country in terms of production, on the ground 367 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 1: and Texas Tech is kind of what it's always been. 368 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:51,639 Speaker 1: They can spread you out. They've got multiple receivers that 369 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:55,399 Speaker 1: have had outstanding years. Tyler Chuck I think has got 370 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 1: a huge arm, h and NFL type arm. And loved 371 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 1: him last year the start that he had against the 372 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 1: Cougars in the first game of the opening game of 373 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:07,920 Speaker 1: the season, and then he got hurt, so you didn't 374 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 1: see him after that, But the moments I saw and 375 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 1: what I've seen on film, he has got an NFL 376 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 1: type arm. So this will be loaded with fireworks. It's 377 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:19,360 Speaker 1: one of the better matchups I think this Bowl has 378 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:22,360 Speaker 1: had in quite some time, and it'll be quite entertaining. 379 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 1: And if you like quarterbacks and you like future NFL 380 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:28,880 Speaker 1: draft quarterbacks, Jackson Dart's gonna be a fun guy to watch. 381 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 1: Dre Benshall, Tyler Shuck, He's got a cannon and we 382 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 1: might be watching this. This running back draft class in 383 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three is shaping up to be one of 384 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:38,919 Speaker 1: the best ones, led by Bijan I mean, it's incredible class. 385 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 1: This dude that we're about to watch on Wednesday night 386 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:44,680 Speaker 1: quin Shawn Judkins. He might be better than all of them. 387 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 1: He is a he's a legit, legit dude. Okay, I 388 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 1: want to get to this, all right, Okay, I want 389 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 1: to get to this. Do it. So Andre Mark posted 390 00:19:53,320 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 1: a picture on Twitter on Christmas Day. He posted a picture. Yeah, 391 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:05,160 Speaker 1: I want to know how you made it through the 392 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:10,920 Speaker 1: game on Saturday in Nashville because your partner up there 393 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 1: likes the door open and you don't. So how did 394 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 1: you make it through on Saturday's holding the space heater 395 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 1: like a baby? It's his child. I had a caress 396 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 1: the space heater. Fort Feat wouldn't get one. I mean, 397 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 1: he has to fill the elements. It's so he said, 398 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:41,400 Speaker 1: it's over. It's an experience for me at this point. 399 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:44,239 Speaker 1: But and I don't want nothing to do with it. 400 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 1: So the open window part was only on one part 401 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 1: of the booth mine who was closed like the a 402 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:53,639 Speaker 1: normal human being would have it on a six degree 403 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:59,120 Speaker 1: day in the seat. So that mixed with a space heater, 404 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 1: we I think we call one hell of a game. Yeah, yeah, 405 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 1: we had a fun broadcast. It's no doubt. You know. 406 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 1: The interesting thing is, in the three coldest games in 407 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 1: Texans history, they're three and Ozye, they're three and OZ 408 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 1: in the in the worst weather conditions. Now I should 409 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:19,440 Speaker 1: rephrase worst weather conditions, you guys. You guys always remember that. 410 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna see if I can, I can. I know 411 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 1: one that one would be obviously Saturday against Tennessee. The 412 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 1: other that comes to mind for me would be Chicago 413 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 1: when they didn't have carpet down. They just read three 414 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 1: and no heating the booth at all, no heating, no windows. Yeah, 415 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 1: you could just lower the garage door kind of thing. 416 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 1: That's it. Then you can't see. So there there it is. 417 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 1: The third would be Pittsburgh Bay. Okay, Green Bay. That 418 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:53,639 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh game was cold too. It was you're right, that 419 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:56,119 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh game where they had the three defensive touchdowns in 420 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 1: the inaugural season. There was snow on the ground. Uh 421 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:02,119 Speaker 1: it was you. We were like, hey, snow. You know, Houstonian, 422 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 1: so it's cool to see snow. But that was cold too. 423 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 1: I got to look up the temperature for that. But 424 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 1: the three cold is Green Bay, Chicago, and last Saturday, 425 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:13,160 Speaker 1: and they're three and oh eight because sixteen we had snow, right, 426 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 1: but it was not it was not overly cold. It 427 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 1: was just a wet snow. So by the end of it. 428 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 1: My feet were just two of those three. Two of 429 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:22,880 Speaker 1: those three lived in our division, So you were going 430 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 1: there at some point, whether it's you with cold weather 431 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 1: at some point in the season, it's crazy. Drey, thanks 432 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 1: so much for joining us. Merry Christmas, Happy holidays. Looking 433 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 1: forward to seeing you Wednesday night, Taxac Texas Bowl. Thanks 434 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:38,679 Speaker 1: a lot, same to you guys. Look forward to it. 435 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:42,119 Speaker 1: So there's a longer story that goes with the heater. 436 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:46,879 Speaker 1: On Friday before we left, because we were leaving early, 437 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 1: I had to record radio. So I was in the 438 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 1: studio recording radio on Friday when I heard the door 439 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 1: open and I look and Mark walks in. He's got 440 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:57,879 Speaker 1: his travel bag and he's got this space heater and 441 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 1: this thing is maybe I don't know, it's maybe eighteen 442 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 1: inches tall, and I'm like, At first, I thought, what 443 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:07,239 Speaker 1: are you and then I went that's for Drey, isn't it. 444 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:11,479 Speaker 1: He goes, yes, he went by Drey's house, picked it up, 445 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:13,680 Speaker 1: brought it to him and then I see the picture 446 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 1: and Dre's literally got it in his lap while the 447 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:20,119 Speaker 1: game is going on. It was that cold and he 448 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 1: had it in his lap. As a funny story, So 449 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:25,680 Speaker 1: Hopefully guys enjoyed that, and you will enjoy John McClain 450 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 1: he joins me next right here a Texans all access 451 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:32,720 Speaker 1: first half. Chargers at their thirty eight Herbert shotgun, one 452 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 1: back Jackson, five men across the front for the Texans. 453 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 1: Herbert takes the snap. Herbert with time floats the ball. 454 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 1: It's intercepted time, it's upside forty thirty twenty fifteen, ten 455 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:50,680 Speaker 1: five to the house, pick sets merry Christmas. Mills takes 456 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 1: the snap, takes a knee, and it is over at 457 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:58,679 Speaker 1: NRG Stadium. A magnificent upset victory from the Houston Texans, 458 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:03,440 Speaker 1: who would come together to throttle the Chargers forty one 459 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 1: to twenty nine. The Texans ran their fourth of the year, 460 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 1: with a trip to San Francisco next week. It was 461 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,959 Speaker 1: a great day one year ago today, So you know, 462 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 1: two years in a row, we're taking care of this 463 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 1: Christmas holiday with wins against good football teams. Chargers just 464 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:22,399 Speaker 1: miss the playoffs last year, and we'll see what happens 465 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:27,200 Speaker 1: to the Titans. Boy, it's interesting stuff because they've got 466 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:30,199 Speaker 1: the Cowboys on Thursday, then you got the Jaguars with 467 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 1: us on Sunday. Neither team needs to win the game 468 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:38,160 Speaker 1: because it's all about the AFC South Championship on Sunday 469 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:41,120 Speaker 1: the eighth in Jacksonville. That's gonna be kind of interesting. 470 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 1: So speaking of Nashville, somebody that knows Nashville pretty well 471 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:47,880 Speaker 1: is our good friend John mcclaim. We caught up with him, 472 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 1: talked about all things Texans and throughout the NFL and 473 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 1: the AFC's out in general. Your thoughts on the Texans 474 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 1: beating the Titans. I thought it was a tremendous performance. 475 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 1: I was happy for Lovey Smith, Hamilton, Frank Ross, all 476 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:05,959 Speaker 1: the position coaches. Those guys worked their butts off buying 477 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 1: the scenes. And there were the players every day, the 478 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,639 Speaker 1: position coaches, and I was happy for the players. You know, 479 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:15,399 Speaker 1: Tennessee needed to win. And people say, well, they played 480 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 1: Malik Willis. Well, they played Ryan and Ryan Tanneyell up 481 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 1: there last year. They beat him. And they've had six 482 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 1: interceptions now and seven turnovers in their last two games 483 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 1: in Nashville, and they beat them when they needed it. 484 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 1: You know, the Titans are beating up, the Texans are 485 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:38,199 Speaker 1: beaten up too. That's one thing that amazes me. I 486 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 1: thought the Dallas game was a Fluke Cowboys weren't getting 487 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:45,680 Speaker 1: up and then missing six starters against the Chiefs to 488 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 1: go to overtime. They win this, they're certainly capable of 489 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:53,439 Speaker 1: winning out. And they've beat in Jacksonville nine in a row, 490 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 1: Jaguars five and two, Trevor Lawrence fourteen touchdowns, one interception 491 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 1: during that stretch. But their game is gonna come down 492 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 1: to the last game against the Titans, with the winner 493 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 1: win the division. So the Texans have a chance to 494 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 1: win out. I'm guessing Indianapolis going with with Nick Foles. 495 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 1: He may play well and people go, well, why in 496 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:19,879 Speaker 1: the world didn't they play him before? And uh, but 497 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:23,159 Speaker 1: we'll find out tonight whendn't they play the Chargers. But 498 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 1: based on the way the Texans have been playing lately, 499 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:30,360 Speaker 1: they're playing hard and uh, I think they could win 500 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 1: the last two. I'm certainly not predicting it, but the 501 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 1: good So generally, are you happy for me and Mark two? 502 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:38,719 Speaker 1: I mean, we've been through all this too happy for us? 503 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 1: You know what about you guys? You guys got you 504 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 1: guys get paid for stealing, just like me. I paid 505 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 1: for stealing because what we do talking about sports isn't 506 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:58,639 Speaker 1: not Yeah, yeah, Yeah, that's true. I know, I know 507 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 1: we of course, yeah, exactly general. We were talking about 508 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 1: this earlier with the Titans and the Jaguars this week 509 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 1: with the results with the Jaguars beating the Jets and 510 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:12,399 Speaker 1: US beating the Titans, making them even essentially setting up 511 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 1: a week eighteen AFC South Championship game. If you were 512 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:18,719 Speaker 1: the Titans and or the Jaguars, would you treat this 513 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,439 Speaker 1: as much as you could like a bye week? How 514 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,439 Speaker 1: would you treat this on each side? I would do 515 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 1: everything I can to win if I'm the Titans, because 516 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 1: they've lost five in a row, They've got a lot 517 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 1: of injuries. They're playing, but a lot of backups in 518 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:36,200 Speaker 1: their offensive line. Those guys need to play. Malik Willis 519 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 1: needs the experience of throwing the football, and Derrick Kennray 520 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:44,440 Speaker 1: it's not like he's wearing down. Texans did a great 521 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 1: job against him, scept for one play he gave up 522 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:51,400 Speaker 1: three point five yards of carry. On the other twenty 523 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 1: two and so if you're the Titans, you need to win. 524 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 1: You need some momentum for that last game at Jacksonville. 525 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 1: And you're Jacksonville, you're on a roll. You're one five 526 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 1: of your last seven. You don't want to do anything 527 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:08,159 Speaker 1: is going to hinder that momentum. John, I don't know 528 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 1: if we talk enough about the fact that the Texans 529 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 1: of using have been using two quarterbacks for the past 530 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 1: three games, and it's not like they're this offensive monster 531 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:21,680 Speaker 1: with this system. But it's interesting because, as the play 532 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 1: by play guy, I'm like, all right, who's it this snap? 533 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 1: You know, they were going every other snap for a 534 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:30,639 Speaker 1: while in the Titans game. Very strange, interesting stuff, and 535 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 1: I got a feeling they're gonna keep doing it. Your 536 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 1: thoughts on this, I don't think I've ever seen anything 537 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 1: quite like it in the NFL. I'm sure it's not unprecedented, 538 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 1: but I can't think of a time where I've seen 539 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 1: a team do it like that. Well, you weren't born 540 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 1: when Tom Landry was rotating two quarterbacks every other play 541 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 1: and he would give the play and they would run 542 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 1: in John Meredith, Andy le Baron and then Don Meredith 543 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 1: and was it Craig Morton or starrt He did he 544 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 1: Andrey did that, and it was maddening if you were 545 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 1: a fan. I don't like it anymore. I thought it 546 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 1: caught the Cowboys off guard. They worked well, but Davis Mills. 547 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 1: I'll tell you Mills was awful in the third quarter, 548 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 1: and he was awesome in the fourth quarter. He had 549 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 1: every passed on his last two scoring drives, and you 550 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 1: wonder why in the world can he do that more 551 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 1: often like he did at the end the last season. Well, 552 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 1: one of the things on those two scoring drives he 553 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 1: played every play. They didn't put Jeff Driscoll in. Driscoll's 554 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 1: last played into squat. I want Mills in there. I 555 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 1: want Mills in there the whole game because Mills has 556 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 1: a future. Driscoll does not, and Mills needs all the 557 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 1: time he can get to throw the ball and try 558 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 1: to give him some consistency. Now, I don't think he's 559 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 1: gonna be a starting quarterback next year. He might be 560 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 1: first game, first couple of games, depending on the development 561 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 1: of their first draft choice. But I want to see 562 00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 1: Mills because they have their best chance to win with Mills, 563 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 1: not dress John. I don't want to send make the 564 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 1: defense sound like it's gonna be the eighty five Bears 565 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 1: at some point. But you had Jake Hanson with the 566 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 1: strip in He's played very well linebacker. You had Christian Harris, 567 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 1: who has played extremely well. He had to pick, Yeah, 568 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 1: Jalen Petrie, who's arguably the best defensive player we've seen 569 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 1: in a while. He's been incredible. He had second year 570 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 1: Roy Lopez playing his guts out. Obo Coronco is still 571 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 1: a young dude who has really risen. Johan Grenard is 572 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 1: in year three and he was me was very present. 573 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 1: It feels like this defense, the future of it is 574 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 1: maybe brighter than we thought maybe five seven weeks ago. 575 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 1: What are your thoughts about where this young defense can 576 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 1: end up going with what the peple with what we've 577 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 1: seen from these pieces already, they've given up the fewest 578 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 1: touchdown passes in the NFL. Their quarterback writing is good, 579 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 1: even though they're I don't know what I'm guess they'll 580 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 1: be last against the run again. But when you give 581 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 1: up a lot of yards rushing, usually games close, you 582 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:04,680 Speaker 1: don't get blown out. They've been blown out much and 583 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 1: they had those games up until they got to the 584 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 1: Titans and got just abused that they could have won 585 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,480 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter. And I think that they're like 586 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 1: a talent or their like of not enough talent showed 587 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 1: when they lost in the fourth quarter to better teams. 588 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 1: And you mentioned Roy Lopez. He started off where Kurt 589 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 1: Heinis Big Haney was playing ahead of him. Now Lopez 590 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 1: is playing better. I don't understand why. You know, sometimes 591 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 1: you get new position coaches, they come in, they want 592 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 1: you to do something different. But Lopez has played better. 593 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 1: It's too bad. Nico Collins has been hurt. This is 594 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 1: two times. Johnathan Grenard, it's two years he's been hurt. 595 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 1: Next year's contract here. If he could stay healthy and 596 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 1: avoid a serious Andrey he can get ten to twelve sicks. 597 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:58,480 Speaker 1: He's a really good pass rusher. Watching Ogbo come on 598 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 1: the way he has is kind of been amazing. And 599 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 1: they still need help. They still need a pass rusher, 600 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 1: and they still need to tackle. You guys mentioned I 601 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 1: was listening Jalen Carter, will Anderson would look great in 602 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 1: this defense, but they're not going to get them because 603 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 1: they got to have a quarterback. You can't have same 604 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,760 Speaker 1: quarterbacks next year as you have now and expect to 605 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:24,960 Speaker 1: show significant improvement. But based on the draft drafts that 606 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 1: Nicko Sarrio has had now, it bodes very well for 607 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 1: the next one. With eleven picks, two ones, the Browns 608 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 1: and Watson did their part yesterday by losing, and they 609 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 1: need to browse to lose their last two games, of course, 610 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:46,480 Speaker 1: but I'm already excited about next year. They'll know who's 611 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 1: going to be the coach, don't know who's going to 612 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:51,960 Speaker 1: be the quarterback. It's just there's enough young players on 613 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 1: both sides of the ball, but especially on defense to 614 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 1: be very encouraging. Absolutely got a lot of good young 615 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,880 Speaker 1: players and it's nice to see the performances really improved, 616 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:06,080 Speaker 1: including the win against Tennessee on Saturday, which set them 617 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 1: to their fifth consecutive loss. John Worst meltdown. Titans five 618 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 1: consecutive losses, Dolphins four consecutive losses. I know five is 619 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 1: more than four. I can do that basic math. But 620 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 1: what is more damaging in your opinion? Oh, the Dolphins 621 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 1: by far. The Titans are. They're in the situation there 622 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 1: and think if the Texans lost their left tackle, they 623 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 1: lost their center, their left guard, and then they lost 624 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 1: their starting right guard and they had to go with 625 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 1: all backups, and then then you lose your quarterback and 626 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 1: you're going with Jeff Drisco, where would they be offensively? 627 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:45,240 Speaker 1: And were Miami? I can't figure two thrown those three 628 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:48,480 Speaker 1: interceptions in the fourth quarter, it looked like one was 629 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 1: the fault of a receiver, the other two where his 630 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:54,960 Speaker 1: fault in interception had not been an issue with him. Plus, 631 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:57,920 Speaker 1: I don't think anybody thought much about the Titans chances 632 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 1: in the playoffs. But based on the way Miami had 633 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 1: played in a really good performance at Buffalo and bad weather, 634 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,040 Speaker 1: I thought, well, maybe they can win a game on 635 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:11,560 Speaker 1: the road in bad weather. But man, they just looked terrible. 636 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:16,279 Speaker 1: General Baker Mayfield in three games with the Rams has 637 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:23,279 Speaker 1: looked pretty good. Two games, second one he was awful. Yeah, well, 638 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 1: in the two games that they've won, he has made 639 00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 1: some plays. What is his future in twenty twenty three? 640 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:33,160 Speaker 1: Don't see it being with the Rams because Matthew Stafford 641 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:36,759 Speaker 1: will way back. And there's an example of a quarterback 642 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:40,040 Speaker 1: who goes with a coach who plays his system and 643 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:44,520 Speaker 1: can coach quarterbacks. It's like Kyle Shanan. Kyle's doing a 644 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,520 Speaker 1: great job. I mean, my goodness, they've won eight in 645 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,760 Speaker 1: a row. They've won three in a row with Brock 646 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 1: bleeping party from my host state, and so they're coaching 647 00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:59,319 Speaker 1: Mayfield up. Mayfield has been on his best bay here. 648 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,360 Speaker 1: He hadn't said he thinks stupid. He hadn't done anything 649 00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:06,279 Speaker 1: stupid because he and his agent know that he's about 650 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:10,160 Speaker 1: to be on his fourth team next year. And but 651 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,000 Speaker 1: I think the key is for him to have more 652 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:16,000 Speaker 1: than one team interested. Would the Rams wanting back as 653 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:19,960 Speaker 1: a backup? Possibly, would he be a backup buying Matthew Stafford, 654 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,640 Speaker 1: who was hurt a lot this year and is getting older. 655 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,440 Speaker 1: Possibly if I'm a quarterback and I go to a 656 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,920 Speaker 1: situation it is good for me with the coach, with 657 00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:32,640 Speaker 1: the head coach, the coordinator, and the quarterback coach and 658 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 1: the play caller, and I got to be a backup 659 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:38,720 Speaker 1: and wait my opportunity. Give me that over a chance 660 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:42,000 Speaker 1: to start for a bad team for more money. General, 661 00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:44,880 Speaker 1: thanks so much for joining us, Mary Christmas, Happy Holidays. 662 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:46,680 Speaker 1: We look forward to say to you guys, thank you, 663 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:49,720 Speaker 1: and I look forward to talking to you Thursday. Love 664 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,879 Speaker 1: having the General on with us. John mcclaint right here 665 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:57,680 Speaker 1: on Texans All Access coming up. Spencer Tillman, well, he 666 00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:02,480 Speaker 1: is tremendous on Inside the Game on Saturday, mostly Sunday evenings, 667 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:04,799 Speaker 1: but I think they moved to Saturday after the win 668 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:09,480 Speaker 1: over in Tennessee. So we'll talk to him next Spencer 669 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:12,560 Speaker 1: Timban right here at Texas All Access. 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It's Fetcher had thoughts, obviously 688 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:06,480 Speaker 1: about this win over Tennessee sp What do you make 689 00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:09,120 Speaker 1: of what you saw? As the Texans have been playing well, 690 00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,040 Speaker 1: They've been taking teams down to the wire, not able 691 00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,439 Speaker 1: to close two good teams in Dallas, in Kansas City 692 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:17,000 Speaker 1: most recently this time, they make the plays in the 693 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,200 Speaker 1: fourth quarters. I think I make out of it what 694 00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:22,279 Speaker 1: you kind of alluded to with Jake Hanson. I mean, 695 00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:25,600 Speaker 1: in creating that fumble and Jonathan Grenard steps up and 696 00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,280 Speaker 1: makes a tremendous play, I think he is a catalyst 697 00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:31,399 Speaker 1: on that front. Obviously, I've been bullish on the league 698 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:33,960 Speaker 1: for a long time, but then when Jonathan's added to 699 00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:36,640 Speaker 1: that mix, you can actually change the surface. And what 700 00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:38,520 Speaker 1: I'm referring to the surface of the front is to 701 00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:40,680 Speaker 1: how it looks. I mean, you know, John, you know 702 00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:44,520 Speaker 1: that every front has to be has to have integrity, right. 703 00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:48,839 Speaker 1: You line them up in positions to play with gap responsibility. Well, 704 00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,600 Speaker 1: with the Jonathan Grenard, because of his quickness and his 705 00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,600 Speaker 1: ability to disrupt and be a part of a reduced 706 00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,759 Speaker 1: front or something that doesn't look like it has integrity, 707 00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:00,239 Speaker 1: you can play around with the surface, and that's acting 708 00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,160 Speaker 1: what you need to be able to do against the 709 00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:05,279 Speaker 1: Derrick Henry, a team like the Titans that predicated self 710 00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:08,800 Speaker 1: success on running the football. If you disrupt your front 711 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,480 Speaker 1: and you affect the way they intend to block things, 712 00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:14,839 Speaker 1: it's tough getting that the trap block team that they have. 713 00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:18,680 Speaker 1: It's pretty damn salty. But ultimately I think the Textans 714 00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:21,440 Speaker 1: have an answer for that. And Jonathan was just a 715 00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:23,680 Speaker 1: catalytic player. I mean, the guy was knifing in there, 716 00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:27,400 Speaker 1: being disruptive, doing some cool things, and so I just 717 00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:30,080 Speaker 1: like what his addition is to this team. First time 718 00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:31,960 Speaker 1: he's been healthy, you know, the first time this team 719 00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,080 Speaker 1: has had as many healthy players on the field in 720 00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:36,359 Speaker 1: a long time, particularly on the defensive side of the ball. 721 00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:38,680 Speaker 1: All right, Spencer, now we're starting a party for two 722 00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,759 Speaker 1: twelve and one. At all, we all know that, and 723 00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:45,280 Speaker 1: we are all you know, you know, analysts and looking 724 00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,080 Speaker 1: at the team and know that it's not good enough 725 00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:49,319 Speaker 1: to be two twelve and one. But the way this 726 00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:53,000 Speaker 1: team has played the last four or five weeks, especially defensively, 727 00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:57,600 Speaker 1: what are your thoughts about finishing up strong going into 728 00:38:57,640 --> 00:38:59,120 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three. And we know there will be a 729 00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:02,000 Speaker 1: lot of changes going into twenty twenty three. But how 730 00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:04,840 Speaker 1: important a is it to finish strong and be What 731 00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:08,000 Speaker 1: do you think about young players? We had the call 732 00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:10,880 Speaker 1: of Jake Hansen forcing that fumble. Of undrafted rookie has 733 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,120 Speaker 1: made a lot of plays. The future of this team 734 00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:16,200 Speaker 1: with the young players in particular defensively that we've seen 735 00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:19,400 Speaker 1: show up, especially on Saturday against the Titans. Yeah, that's 736 00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:22,399 Speaker 1: a great question. Every season is a long audition, right 737 00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,400 Speaker 1: and when you have one season where you're struggling like this, 738 00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:29,479 Speaker 1: it becomes a should become a blind along audition. That's 739 00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:32,959 Speaker 1: where you throw all of the biases you may have 740 00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:37,120 Speaker 1: of a particular player or scheme that he aligns himself with, 741 00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:39,120 Speaker 1: and you just have to get down in the weeds 742 00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:41,680 Speaker 1: and say this is he the best that we have 743 00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:43,799 Speaker 1: at this? Can we do better? You have to be 744 00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:46,520 Speaker 1: really critical, and that's what they're involved in right now 745 00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:48,120 Speaker 1: and have been for a long time, and that will 746 00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,880 Speaker 1: get even more tense as we get into the offseason 747 00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:53,960 Speaker 1: and focus on the drafts, and so that's what you've 748 00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:55,319 Speaker 1: got to do. You've got to be critical. But I 749 00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:59,640 Speaker 1: will say this, teams are a lot like democracies, guys, 750 00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:03,120 Speaker 1: And this analogy helps people You know in order for 751 00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:05,200 Speaker 1: them to work at a high level, you've got to 752 00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:09,600 Speaker 1: have a particular disposition. This team could not be where 753 00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:12,160 Speaker 1: it is and had played the last three games effectively 754 00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:15,440 Speaker 1: like they have competitively and then ultimately ending up in 755 00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:17,880 Speaker 1: a win against the division riding who had everything to 756 00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,359 Speaker 1: play for. You don't get to that point without having 757 00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:24,080 Speaker 1: a particular disposition, and that disposition is a willingness to 758 00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:26,560 Speaker 1: play hard for whoever it is that's leading that team. 759 00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:29,200 Speaker 1: In this particular case, it's Levy and so not to 760 00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:32,239 Speaker 1: lose that down the stretch when you had one win 761 00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:34,240 Speaker 1: at one particular time for the majority of the season, 762 00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:36,799 Speaker 1: I think it speaks a lot for the character of 763 00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,720 Speaker 1: the players, first of all, and their willingness to follow 764 00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:43,359 Speaker 1: a leader who has both a shepherd a sage and 765 00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:45,640 Speaker 1: he's not a tyrant, he's just the antithesis of that, 766 00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:48,400 Speaker 1: the opposite. That says a lot about the leadership that 767 00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:50,239 Speaker 1: you have in place. Now you got to focus on 768 00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:53,120 Speaker 1: the talent and then what can you do to raise 769 00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,960 Speaker 1: that and keep it healthy long enough to manifest that 770 00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,879 Speaker 1: into wins. And so that's a process, but it's something 771 00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:01,640 Speaker 1: they've got to go through. What is your reaction to 772 00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:04,680 Speaker 1: the Titans losing five in a row and the surge 773 00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:09,719 Speaker 1: of the Jacksonville Jaguars who are coming in here on Sunday. Spencer, Well, 774 00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:13,040 Speaker 1: if you look at the common denominator mark, it's it's injuries, right, 775 00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:15,200 Speaker 1: That's what the Titans have had to deal with, and 776 00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:17,600 Speaker 1: for a longer stretch, is what the Texans have had 777 00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:21,399 Speaker 1: to deal with. So it reached a kipping point for 778 00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:24,880 Speaker 1: this Titans team that they played on Saturday, and it 779 00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:28,720 Speaker 1: started to manifest itself in consistent losses. Well, the Texans 780 00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:32,080 Speaker 1: were mired in that for nine straight weeks, right, so 781 00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:34,640 Speaker 1: they know what that's like firsthand. It comes down to 782 00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:37,480 Speaker 1: players playing the game. Guys, I don't care who you are. 783 00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:40,080 Speaker 1: We can sit here and pontificate and fans can have 784 00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:43,200 Speaker 1: their opinions. They're certainly entitled to it. But as an analyst, 785 00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:45,080 Speaker 1: I'm going to look at what I see and I'm 786 00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:47,760 Speaker 1: going to say what I see. I think this Texans 787 00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:50,880 Speaker 1: team is a very solid team right now. Not the 788 00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:54,040 Speaker 1: team good enough to win say, three, four or five 789 00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:56,919 Speaker 1: games in a row as of two three weeks ago, 790 00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:59,719 Speaker 1: but as of three weeks ago, they spect competitive ads 791 00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:03,279 Speaker 1: start to manifest itself into consistency in their play, and 792 00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:05,920 Speaker 1: so I say what I see, and I agree with Levy. 793 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:07,759 Speaker 1: I think no one would want to play this team 794 00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,320 Speaker 1: right now. They've got nothing to lose, they've got everything 795 00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:12,600 Speaker 1: to gain and get better, and I just think that 796 00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:15,200 Speaker 1: they're really in a good place in terms of identifying 797 00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:18,000 Speaker 1: who they are and getting a good plumb line for 798 00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:20,480 Speaker 1: where they need to go moving forward. All right, that's 799 00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:22,279 Speaker 1: gonna do it for Monday's show. A big thanks to 800 00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:26,000 Speaker 1: Andre Spencer and John McClain, of course my partner Mark Vandermer, 801 00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:27,839 Speaker 1: and all of you guys for listening. We will see 802 00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:31,840 Speaker 1: you tomorrow, right Aaron, Texans All Access and as always, 803 00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:32,440 Speaker 1: go Texans.