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Speaker 1: Podcast starts now, and even Earnestness Bonanza starts now, one

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Speaker 1: could say, And even one could say the ernest that

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Speaker 1: Bananza starts now. And I want to say, Happy Thanksgiving

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Speaker 1: to everyone. Oh, Happy Thanksgiving to all. As everyone is

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Speaker 1: listening to this, I will be preparing Thanksgiving dinner for

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Speaker 1: twelve people with Matthew. Can you believe I'm actually I'm

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Speaker 1: having heart palpitations just thinking about it. I mean that

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Speaker 1: sounds insane. So this is coming out, what two days

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Speaker 1: before Thanksgiving, so it's gonna people are going to be

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Speaker 1: in the thick of the Thanksgiving spirit. We are in studio,

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Speaker 1: I should say, in Los Angeles, California, stud in Los Angeles, California.

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Speaker 1: We just recorded an episode that will come out after this,

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Speaker 1: and we are coming off of like this really incredible

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Speaker 1: is not like any other episode that we would ever do.

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Speaker 1: This is where we dropped the bit as completely as

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Speaker 1: And is it sometimes boring by design? One could say,

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Speaker 1: And yet that's honesty. Yeah. And the first the first

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Speaker 1: There's not like a single person where like when I

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Speaker 1: this again. Yeah, and they really understand, really like us

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Speaker 1: the person in it, I'm like, wait, why don't they

427
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Speaker 1: know that we have no say or like I know,

428
00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:20,639
Speaker 1: I'm kind of like, well, yeah, when I listen to

429
00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:23,240
Speaker 1: the radio, I don't necessarily think but but of course

430
00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:26,800
Speaker 1: I understand, I understand that, Um, I don't know. I'm

431
00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:28,679
Speaker 1: not kind of like I'm not like shot up, like

432
00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:32,240
Speaker 1: I understand where it's coming from. Um. But it really

433
00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:34,440
Speaker 1: is like we listen to the podcast like two times

434
00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:37,359
Speaker 1: before it's released for edits, and obviously the ads are

435
00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:39,920
Speaker 1: not on those edits, so to be honest, we don't

436
00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:42,000
Speaker 1: listen to it when it has ads because we're gonna

437
00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:43,679
Speaker 1: listen to it a third time, just like on our

438
00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:48,639
Speaker 1: little walks. So it's always very surprising and shocking in

439
00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:50,439
Speaker 1: like a bad way when suddenly we'll get like an

440
00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:55,720
Speaker 1: angry message. Yeah, it's actually very weird, but I understand

441
00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:57,800
Speaker 1: where it comes from us, of course, But just the

442
00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:01,160
Speaker 1: next time it happens, go damn the rhythm. Sure is weird.

443
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,960
Speaker 1: If it's our voices, that's different. We are they're not

444
00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:08,120
Speaker 1: using a bot to create our voices. It's also, yeah,

445
00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:10,160
Speaker 1: we're also kind of in the beginning of this process

446
00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:12,359
Speaker 1: where like I'm sure in a year, like more of

447
00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:15,639
Speaker 1: the ads will be like us endorsing things or whatever,

448
00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:18,840
Speaker 1: like you like you hear another podcast, but like right now,

449
00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:22,760
Speaker 1: since we're still new, it's mostly like just adds that

450
00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:26,679
Speaker 1: exists in the whole network. So yeah, I mean, I

451
00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:28,640
Speaker 1: do think we'll be more careful when it's like us

452
00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:32,199
Speaker 1: doing something. You have to hope, you gotta hope. But

453
00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:36,280
Speaker 1: I would love to plug the military. Um no, okay,

454
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Speaker 1: what is the most morally crupt sponsor and maybe let's

455
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:40,960
Speaker 1: say morally corrupt sponsor that we would do the voice

456
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:45,360
Speaker 1: over for. Oh sure, sure, sure, Um let's see morally corrupt,

457
00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:47,840
Speaker 1: you know, a real one. This is maybe two grounded

458
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Speaker 1: of an answer. This seems like it could be a

459
00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:51,000
Speaker 1: fun there could be a funny answer here, but that's

460
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:54,400
Speaker 1: not what this one is is like I feel confused

461
00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:58,280
Speaker 1: about like Amazon shows, where it's like because it's like

462
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Speaker 1: you want to be like hardline and be like, no,

463
00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:02,600
Speaker 1: I'm not going to support like I would never do

464
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:05,680
Speaker 1: like a buy from Amazon. But then it's like, okay, well,

465
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:09,679
Speaker 1: I do understand, like the Amazon entertainment connection. It's always

466
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:15,600
Speaker 1: really confusing, right also because like all media conglomerates are

467
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:22,680
Speaker 1: incredibly bad but nothing but respect to but all of them, Um, yes,

468
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:26,480
Speaker 1: I I understand that dilemma. I mean it's like, I

469
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Speaker 1: mean there are Disney shows, and then there's also like, well,

470
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Speaker 1: you know what, I don't know. And then it's also

471
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Speaker 1: like I have genuinely no idea what the labor conditions

472
00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,640
Speaker 1: are in many of these places. I the best thing

473
00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:38,680
Speaker 1: we can do is go case by case. I would say,

474
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Speaker 1: my kind of joking answer is like I wouldn't. I

475
00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:44,160
Speaker 1: don't know how I would confirm this. But there are

476
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 1: so many things that are like supplements or vitamins, and

477
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:52,159
Speaker 1: I'm like, if I could confirm that they are fully placebos,

478
00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:54,080
Speaker 1: like they do nothing, I would never advertize something that

479
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,520
Speaker 1: is harmful for you. But if someone could confirm that

480
00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:59,879
Speaker 1: something is a complete placebo, I would like lie that

481
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,400
Speaker 1: it works and just know that our listeners are smart

482
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,639
Speaker 1: enough to not believe. That is such a funny answer.

483
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,200
Speaker 1: I wish I had a jokey answer. No, I don't

484
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Speaker 1: have one. Right, next question, Next question, Okay, this is

485
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 1: from Maxim. Do either of you find it difficult to

486
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Speaker 1: relate to gen Z gay men? I myself am gen

487
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 1: Z Prince's twenty three, and I found it increasingly difficult

488
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Speaker 1: to find things in common with gay millennials and gen

489
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 1: X men. I'm surprised to find that, although we're both gay,

490
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:27,200
Speaker 1: the expected generation divide does seem to apply mostly culturally

491
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:30,040
Speaker 1: and in terms of humor. And then the wait, the

492
00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:34,159
Speaker 1: generation gap applies culture and through humor, mostly culturally and

493
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,560
Speaker 1: in terms of humor. And there's also a part too,

494
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:38,399
Speaker 1: sche I do that now or later? What is it

495
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:40,440
Speaker 1: when you both were in your early twenties? What was

496
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Speaker 1: y'all's relationship with aging, specifically through the lens of being

497
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:44,880
Speaker 1: a gay man? Yeah? We can do both. Okay, So

498
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Speaker 1: how do you feel about relating to gen Z game in? Um,

499
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,760
Speaker 1: I don't feel there's that much of a I mean,

500
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:57,080
Speaker 1: you know, from my experience when I've I don't know

501
00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 1: that many years. I think that's what it comes down to. Yeah,

502
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:03,679
Speaker 1: I was trying to think, like, who are friends of

503
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,679
Speaker 1: mine that are twenty three? I mean, I'm sure we

504
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 1: interact with twenty three yearls on a daily basis, but

505
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 1: we are in our thirties, so like our close friends

506
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:14,440
Speaker 1: are just not twenty three and and thank god, I mean,

507
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:16,080
Speaker 1: how weird would it be if we were like, well,

508
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 1: Jeffrey's kind of like this, but um, but no, I

509
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 1: mean I did famously as we talked about once, I

510
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,159
Speaker 1: got drinks with a twenty three year old who like

511
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:26,919
Speaker 1: is in New York and he went to my college

512
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:30,919
Speaker 1: and it's like doing comedy and sweet were uh, you know,

513
00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 1: talking about that, and it was like I felt like

514
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:38,480
Speaker 1: culturally and I couldn't tell if he was like appeasing

515
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 1: me or if it was like at least like you

516
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,919
Speaker 1: know that's he had the same cultural touchstones. Yes, they

517
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,679
Speaker 1: come at a different time and a different like have

518
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 1: different meaning, like in ways that it can be jarring.

519
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:54,239
Speaker 1: Where it was like we're talking about like Gaga and

520
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:56,480
Speaker 1: he would be like, yeah, I mean I remember listening

521
00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:58,639
Speaker 1: to Bad Romance and my Way to middle school and

522
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:00,440
Speaker 1: it's like, right, right right. That came out when I

523
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,200
Speaker 1: was in college, And that's like that really like it

524
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 1: hits you like a ton of bricks of the difference

525
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:08,679
Speaker 1: in age, but like generally it was like we've we

526
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 1: pretty much have the same language. But I don't know

527
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 1: what's your experience. Yeah, I mean my uh my youngest

528
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 1: sisters was born in two thousand, which is so crazy

529
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 1: to think about, and I'm very close with her, and

530
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 1: I like, you know, there are differences between us, but

531
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:34,160
Speaker 1: like we pretty much speak the same language. The one

532
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:36,439
Speaker 1: kind of thing I would say about all this is

533
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 1: that because you and I are very like spent a

534
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:42,199
Speaker 1: lot of time on the internet, I actually think we

535
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:46,160
Speaker 1: prob we probably relate much more to a year old

536
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:49,240
Speaker 1: than the average person in their thirties. Sure, that's a

537
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:52,360
Speaker 1: good point. I think like there's a sort of I mean,

538
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 1: of course, there was a sort of like delayed adolescence

539
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 1: that happens with doing comedy when we're like running around

540
00:27:56,800 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 1: even even like in our thirties, like running around like

541
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 1: shows and bars and getting techuilosdas with drink tickets. Like

542
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 1: the average person, I mean, there are people the average

543
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 1: person or ages like having children, you know, so I

544
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,400
Speaker 1: do think like there is less of a generation gap

545
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 1: than there would be if I was like an executive

546
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:20,879
Speaker 1: at Shell. So yeah, I definitely don't feel like I Also,

547
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:24,679
Speaker 1: it's so funny like the way these generation gaps are

548
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 1: like talked about. I always thought it was kind of

549
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:29,440
Speaker 1: a joke when people were like gen Z sucks, Millennial suck,

550
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:31,879
Speaker 1: and then you realize people actually have strong feelings about it,

551
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 1: and you're like, grow up. Yeah, Like literally this is

552
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 1: so meaningless, Like, yes, everyone everyone has different cultural touchstones,

553
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 1: and everyone grows up, and everyone inevitably like becomes more

554
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 1: quote unquote mature or often becomes honestly more conservative in

555
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 1: some ways, or their priorities change, and you kind of

556
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 1: like I have to like extend some grace to people

557
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 1: for being like different ages and different and coming from

558
00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 1: different life experiences. Yeah, like the idea, like, yeah, this

559
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 1: whole idea that there's a feud between millennials and gen

560
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 1: Z is like truly grow up. Yeah, I mean it

561
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 1: is a funny thing because like, as millennials, like, what

562
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 1: were my feelings towards gen X? Like I felt nothing

563
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 1: towards them, Like it was like it was not something

564
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 1: I thought of I mean, I do think ten years

565
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 1: above us with ten years above us be gen X. Yeah,

566
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 1: I guess so. Well. It's funny because my boyfriend is

567
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 1: like seven seven and a half years older than me,

568
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 1: and a lot of his friends are obviously older than him.

569
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 1: So it is very like I have many friends now,

570
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,959
Speaker 1: especially through him, that are like that are like up

571
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 1: to fifteen years older than me and have like children

572
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 1: that are like in middle school, and I think, like

573
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 1: me interacting with people older than me, it keeps into

574
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 1: perspective my own differences with people younger than me. I

575
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 1: fully agree, like I have older friends and it's like

576
00:29:56,400 --> 00:30:00,120
Speaker 1: you learned to like it's like I used to will

577
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 1: get along and understand the same things and like maybe

578
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 1: have different perspectives on it slightly. But like like the

579
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 1: people that I know that are like gen X, I'm

580
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 1: not like like I do think we see the world

581
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 1: a little bit differently, but not in a way that's

582
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 1: like you're wrong, right, It's like, oh, and I actually

583
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 1: appreciate a gen X perspective totally like it. There is

584
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 1: a different outlook in a way that I'm like, there's

585
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 1: something to it. It's true. Um, okay, And then Part

586
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 1: two which I actually do like. Was when you both

587
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 1: were in your early twenties, what was yrs relationship with aging,

588
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 1: specifically through the lens of being a gay man, and

589
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 1: how has it changed. I mean, it's so funny because

590
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 1: the thing is, when you're in your early twenties, you

591
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 1: don't think about anyone other than yourself. I didn't have

592
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 1: relationship with age. I was not thinking of my early twenties. God,

593
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 1: I like I am afraid of aging, or that I

594
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 1: can't wait to age. I was just like, I'm depressed

595
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 1: and hate myself. I was kind of obsessed with age.

596
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 1: I really like HBO's girls, was like obsessed with being

597
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 1: like in my twenties, and I was just like, this

598
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 1: is the exact age I'm meant to be. But so honestly,

599
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 1: my eight late twenties and like turning thirty, sorry to

600
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 1: sound like the most boring person on earth was kind

601
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 1: of jarring for a moment, but in a way where

602
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 1: now I'm like, oh, that was childish to feel that way.

603
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 1: Like now I'm like glad I don't feel that way. Yeah,

604
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 1: I kind of love getting older. Yeah, it's kind of fun.

605
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 1: I mean, whatever, check back in and however, many years

606
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 1: maybe we'll be like full of cheek fillers and you know,

607
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 1: be afraid of aging. But right now it's going fine. Yeah,

608
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 1: my cheek filler looks great. You can't blink, but yeah,

609
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 1: because my cheeks are so full. All right, Okay, next question. Okay,

610
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 1: this is from Patrick. I love this. I'm a longtime listener,

611
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 1: and I love that you've created a safe space for

612
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 1: little monsters and kindest punks. I've loved Goga for as

613
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 1: long as I can remember, But in the spirit of earnestness,

614
00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 1: I sometimes get conflicted about her motives and whether or

615
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 1: not she being sincere with her fans. When I listened

616
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 1: to her music, watch her life performances, and take in

617
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 1: her fashion moments, I think she's a once in a

618
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 1: generation genius. When I watch her promote oreos from her

619
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 1: couch and say random ship about kindness during the grammatical ball,

620
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 1: I get pessimistic and worry that her whole stick is

621
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 1: totally hollow and that she's just a rich lady pulling

622
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 1: one over on us. Do either of you have doubts

623
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 1: slash qualms like this about mother Monster? Is she sincere

624
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 1: and ultimately just basic? Should we care about her motives?

625
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,239
Speaker 1: If we love her music. I would love to know

626
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 1: your thoughts. This is such a complicated topic. You got

627
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 1: to go first. I mean that's the whole thing with her,

628
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 1: Like it's like the push and pull where you're like,

629
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 1: you can't trust her, and that's what like you. It's

630
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 1: literally like I think of her as like a force.

631
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 1: She is obviously a force, but you you crave that

632
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 1: force to go towards the light. But the darkness is

633
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 1: always calling her, and it is like so hard to

634
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 1: know which way she's going to go and if her

635
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 1: compass is right. I think she has good intentions, but

636
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 1: I also think she has bad intentions. It's genuinely very

637
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 1: hard to read her. Um. I saw a tweet recently

638
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 1: that was like, so when Katie Perry voted for um,

639
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Speaker 1: oh my gosh, why am I blinking? Who cruso? Thank you?

640
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 1: Who ran against Karen bass Um When Katie Pry cruso,

641
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:18,479
Speaker 1: uh my kind of internet friend Nolan quote tweeted and

642
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 1: was like, thank gods. Definitely doesn't know what year it is,

643
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 1: and that, to be like really encapsulates. It's like, yeah,

644
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 1: she doesn't know what year it is, so you have

645
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 1: to kind of go into everything with that mindset that

646
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 1: she's like essentially like since since she was like eighteen

647
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 1: years old, she has been pretending she is like a

648
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 1: seven year old cook. Yeah, and so just like and

649
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 1: and and and in terms of like oreo chromatica oreos

650
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 1: and like her skin caroline and stuff, it's like, unfortunately,

651
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 1: this is the world we live in. I mean say

652
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 1: that it also okay, I know what it is for me.

653
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 1: You know those balls like a metal ball that you

654
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 1: dropped down like a thing, and you're almost like a

655
00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 1: betting thing or and you like see which one it

656
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 1: lands on, Like Gaga is that always where it's like

657
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 1: oh please go no no no, no, no no, no, she's

658
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:09,440
Speaker 1: coming back. No no, no, I mean yeah, she's just

659
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:12,360
Speaker 1: like yeah, I just I know part of me is

660
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 1: ever going to take her literally or like interrogate her

661
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 1: intentions in an earnest way. And maybe that's a cop out,

662
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:20,880
Speaker 1: but I'm like, she's a cartoon character. She's a cartoon character.

663
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 1: And what's funny is when she is like pretending to

664
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 1: be super maybe not even pretending. I believe that she

665
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 1: is super earnest. I mean she again, it's not original state,

666
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 1: but she is like a full like she's like a

667
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:33,279
Speaker 1: theater kid at heart, and even when she does her

668
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 1: like a little sponsored stuff, like there is a part

669
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,759
Speaker 1: of even that that feels earnest where she's like I

670
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 1: am feeding everyone oreos. It's also just like, yeah, we

671
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 1: aren't gen x, and like we aren't fully anti corporate

672
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:53,959
Speaker 1: in a funny way where it's like, I mean, people

673
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 1: are gonna work with corporations at least it's gonna be

674
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 1: Gaga making silly or yeah, I know it's tough. I

675
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,320
Speaker 1: mean I do through phases where sometimes the weight of

676
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:04,439
Speaker 1: all of it hits me and I'm like, the world

677
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 1: is so deeply broken, do you know what I mean?

678
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 1: Like and it and it feels almost too much to bear,

679
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 1: but yes, you have to kind of go through the

680
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 1: world with a bit of horse blinders on the times. Um,

681
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 1: it's only she's I don't know, and maybe I do

682
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 1: make too many justifications from her, but I'm like, she's

683
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,399
Speaker 1: not the Obama's No, no, she's not, Like well that's

684
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 1: what I've always said, Like it keeps kind of I

685
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:29,800
Speaker 1: don't know, to be honest, that shocks me on a

686
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,879
Speaker 1: daily basis how seriously people take celebrities And I say

687
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 1: this as not as someone who thinks are better like

688
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 1: I love pop culture or whatever, but like you do

689
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,360
Speaker 1: just have to like be like none of this matters.

690
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 1: Like what matters is like actual you know, social and

691
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 1: economic and political issues, like whether Lady Gaga is like

692
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 1: earnest and her intentions is not like that. We all

693
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 1: end all for the record, we want Lady got to

694
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 1: be taxed. Yes, that's right, Yes we do want lad

695
00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 1: It's always when Katie Perry voted for Cruizo, they were

696
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 1: is funny when so many people were like, so this

697
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 1: is what y'all's faves like, So yeah, just remember next

698
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 1: time when when you think you're relating to someone that

699
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,799
Speaker 1: they're actually rich and it's like, yeah, like who are

700
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 1: you addressing? I thought Katy Perry was like relatable and

701
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 1: had like socialist politics. What are you talking what are

702
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 1: you talking about? She is one of the most the

703
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 1: dumbest ones we have. She's literally one of the dumbest

704
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 1: people who has ever lived. My final I just want

705
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:28,439
Speaker 1: to say one final thing about Lady Gaga. I grew

706
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 1: up for better or worse as like a huge Madonna fan,

707
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 1: and Madonna talk about someone who disappoints you, like every

708
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:38,320
Speaker 1: day with everything. It's like when you have cut your teeth.

709
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 1: As a Madonna fan, nothing nothing can like make you

710
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 1: feel bad like Lady Gaga having cammatica oreos. Please have

711
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 1: you seen what Madonna was doing for all of the nineties.

712
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 1: I mean literally I was a Kanye fan and it's

713
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:53,920
Speaker 1: just like, yeah, I'll take an oreo please, thank you exactly.

714
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 1: This is from Joel. Do you consider yourselves artists? And

715
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 1: if so, what motivates you to keep making your art

716
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,840
Speaker 1: or doing your work? If you don't think of yourself

717
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 1: as an artist? So wow, what do you think? We

718
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:11,360
Speaker 1: were kind of like, is there any way to answer

719
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 1: this without sounding and sufferable? And We're like, yeah, we'll try,

720
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 1: and now I'm like, wait anothers actually I will. My

721
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 1: earnest answer is I do not think about that. I

722
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 1: would have to agree like it is not something that

723
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,240
Speaker 1: is important, like that distinction is not something that's important.

724
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 1: I actually like that answer a lot because I fully agree. Yeah,

725
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 1: that's how I feel about it. Literally, never in my

726
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 1: life have I been tortured about whether or not I'm

727
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 1: an artist. I think the moment I think of my

728
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 1: whatever I'm doing as like important. I am now then

729
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 1: unable to do it. I have to think of what

730
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 1: I'm doing as stupid and irrelevant, or I will never

731
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 1: do it and thank god it is great. Next. Okay,

732
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:52,880
Speaker 1: so this is funny. This is from Austin, Hi, Sam

733
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:54,919
Speaker 1: and George. I never thought it could happen to me.

734
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 1: I was at the Pavement show in early October with

735
00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:00,759
Speaker 1: my best friend Prince C, straight woman. She saw Sam

736
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 1: from like three feet away, yelled celebrity sighting, and then

737
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 1: waved at him until he waved back. A few weeks later,

738
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,720
Speaker 1: I was at Top Dog Underdog with my straight guy friend.

739
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:11,959
Speaker 1: I saw George from a distance, but my friend, whose

740
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,799
Speaker 1: glasses prescription is six years old, couldn't see him, and

741
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 1: so he took a very zoomed in picture attached After

742
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 1: completing the stradio lab pokey decks, I have a few questions.

743
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 1: Did you guys like the show? Our concerts for girls

744
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,320
Speaker 1: and plays for boys? Is that why the combination of

745
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 1: concerts and plays musical theater is gay? Is that why

746
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 1: I was at both? When you are recognized in public,

747
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 1: do you prefer it to happen Pavement style demands your

748
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:37,320
Speaker 1: attention from close quarters or Top Dog Underdog style creepy

749
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 1: surveillance you didn't know happened until a month after the fact.

750
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 1: If ever, um and they attached actually a really amazing

751
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,319
Speaker 1: photo of George in the theater that he doesn't know

752
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 1: as being taken of him, which is funny. I love

753
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 1: you look great. So did we like the show? I did.

754
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 1: I had a good time at the show. I had

755
00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 1: a lot of fun hanging out with Claro Kane and

756
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 1: watching the band. There was is I will say there

757
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:06,840
Speaker 1: was a hint of sadness in the like nostalgia element,

758
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 1: nostalgia element and sort of feeling everyone being older and

759
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 1: almost feeling like what are we doing? Like sort of

760
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:18,240
Speaker 1: like what is this? Like? Is this is this good?

761
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 1: Like they don't did they don't really like they were

762
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 1: having fun, but it's like something they're like making new music,

763
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 1: like they're doing this too please the fans and like

764
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,359
Speaker 1: put on a big, fun show, and it was sort

765
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 1: of like there was an element of it that half

766
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 1: bummed me out, even though I was enjoying and they

767
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 1: have meant a lot to me before, so it was

768
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 1: kind of weird. They were one of my big cultural

769
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 1: blind spots. I have never gone through pavement phase. I

770
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 1: think Matthew really like Pavement when he was younger, and

771
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 1: we have like a couple of their records at home.

772
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:50,359
Speaker 1: But I've I've I don't even know if I've ever

773
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 1: if I could name a Pavement song, It's just like

774
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,360
Speaker 1: one of those bands that I never got into. I

775
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:57,399
Speaker 1: will say it was fun. I do think it made

776
00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 1: me realize how far I have strayed from indie rock

777
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 1: as a genre. And I was like, this is kind

778
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:07,800
Speaker 1: of fun. I forgot how like bitchy, uh like Stephen

779
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:11,799
Speaker 1: Malchomist can be where it's just like like annoyed at

780
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 1: the audience. And I'm like, oh, because I am so

781
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:17,479
Speaker 1: used to people being like, how's it going. That makes

782
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 1: some noise and it was like, oh, this guy is

783
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:22,440
Speaker 1: being a bit to me, and and thank god I

784
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:26,280
Speaker 1: needed that. Um okay. I went to Top Dog Underdog

785
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:30,839
Speaker 1: to play um, the Susan Laurie Parks play on Broadway.

786
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:33,799
Speaker 1: I did really like it. Yeah, I really liked it.

787
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 1: I felt like, so it ends with this like really

788
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:42,359
Speaker 1: emotional monologue, and I do I'm sorry to say, but

789
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:44,879
Speaker 1: everyone I've talked to agrees with his Yeah, yeah, who's

790
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:46,800
Speaker 1: the actor that? Do you remember the actor? Do you

791
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:50,400
Speaker 1: ever watch Watchman on HBO. Yes, it's the guy that's

792
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:54,320
Speaker 1: Regina King's husband who plays the blue guy. So he's

793
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 1: he had the final monologue. I did feel like he

794
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 1: didn't quite stick the landing with the monologue, which is

795
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:02,319
Speaker 1: it's like, who am I to judge? He is an

796
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 1: incredible actor, but there was something it just took me

797
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 1: out of it a little bit, like it was not

798
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 1: fully there and every and I've everyone I talked to

799
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:13,399
Speaker 1: kind of agrees, but the rest of it I thought

800
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 1: was really good. And yeah, I mean, I've really been

801
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,839
Speaker 1: kind of like, ever since theater reopened, I've been really

802
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 1: prioritizing trying to see plays because I think the pandemic

803
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:29,279
Speaker 1: made me realize. I don't know how how much I

804
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 1: took it for granted that they existed before and I

805
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 1: didn't make an effort to see them. So I've and

806
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 1: that's been like one of the ones I've been like

807
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 1: most excited to see. Yeah, I mean, I wish I

808
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 1: had something better to say. I with theater, I'm always like,

809
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 1: I really enjoy it, but I have no education in

810
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 1: it and could not don't even know like the right

811
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:48,799
Speaker 1: terms when talking about theater or acting or anything. I

812
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 1: just I'm kind of like, well, sometimes I like it,

813
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 1: sometimes I don't. Um, I think we should cut to

814
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 1: the right when you were recognized in public, to prefer

815
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 1: it to happen up close or surveillance style. I mean,

816
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 1: once again, not to be self a grand I think

817
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 1: it's not like we're being recognized left and right now.

818
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:04,880
Speaker 1: So it's rare enough that it actually is very fun

819
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 1: when someone comes up. It's because it's very rare and

820
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 1: it's never like annoying. No, we still very much enjoy it.

821
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:12,880
Speaker 1: We are actually, if you can believe it, not famous.

822
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 1: We in fact have a gay podcast, um, which is amazing. Okay,

823
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:20,799
Speaker 1: next one, but we'll let you know when. Again. By

824
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 1: the way, the best is at a gay bar. Like yeah,

825
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,720
Speaker 1: it's just so fun and we're all we're all family.

826
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 1: We're all family. Girl. Okay. This is from Benjamin. As

827
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 1: I write, Twitter appears to be on the verge of

828
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:37,319
Speaker 1: collapse through to machinations of capital as its users crowd

829
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 1: around its deathbed. Do you have any favorite tweet slash

830
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 1: accounts that you will cherish the memory of totally? Okay,

831
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 1: if not, thank you, I can I actually know what

832
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 1: my favorite tweeting please, um, okay, fuck let me. I mean,

833
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 1: I wish I remembered the tweeter's name, but I actually

834
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 1: think I can find it. Here's the thing. I'm gonna

835
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:58,759
Speaker 1: say the tweet, and if you search this you will

836
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 1: find who tweeted it. And I'm really sorry. I'm not

837
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 1: crediting her name. I think her name starts with an

838
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 1: L and and and and I fell her. It is

839
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:09,479
Speaker 1: from like the kind of golden era of Twitter, where

840
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:13,239
Speaker 1: like everyone's being so stupid, but the tweet is so

841
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 1: what a vaccines make your kid artistic? That doesn't always

842
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 1: mean he's gay. It's like one of those things that

843
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 1: so toes the line of almost being incredibly offensive, but

844
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 1: it is ultimately like literally like word play. Yeah, Like

845
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 1: it feels dangerous without actually at all like making any

846
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:37,720
Speaker 1: kind of statement, and it's just it's it's so funny

847
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:40,880
Speaker 1: to me that, oh, can I say the other one?

848
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:45,479
Speaker 1: So Patricia Lockwood once tweeted like I wish I remember

849
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 1: the wording of it. But it was at Paris Review,

850
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 1: like that the Paris Reviews account. It was like at

851
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 1: Paris Review, So what do you give Paris or like

852
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:56,359
Speaker 1: or like, so, so what's that so like where did

853
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:58,319
Speaker 1: we land on Paris or something something along those lines.

854
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 1: It was much better worded, but like it was one

855
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 1: of those things that now seems almost like okay, expected,

856
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:06,760
Speaker 1: but at the time it was like, this is genius,

857
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:09,879
Speaker 1: probably like nine or something like I know, I'm trying

858
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 1: to think of like old old tweets. I don't know,

859
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 1: I can't think of a true one, but whatever, I

860
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 1: love the thought. Okay, this is from Angelina. Oh yeah,

861
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 1: it's from Angelina Julia. That's huge. Now you're a corporate

862
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:27,800
Speaker 1: darlings with big money advertisers. Who would your ideal sponsors

863
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 1: be if you had to choose them? What is the

864
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 1: studio lab brand? Um? Well, this is fun because we

865
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 1: were at some point asked to give a list of

866
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 1: brands we would want to work with, and we were

867
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 1: so stumped. It was like I've never been asked to

868
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 1: talk the question in my life because it was like

869
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:48,720
Speaker 1: no offense. Um, I understand that that is a normal

870
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 1: part of having our podcast, and of course it would

871
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:52,880
Speaker 1: be much better to do ads for things that we enjoy,

872
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:54,879
Speaker 1: but I was really like, wait, what does that mean?

873
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 1: Like there's a part of me that there's part of

874
00:44:57,920 --> 00:44:59,879
Speaker 1: me that almost likes a separation of church and state,

875
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 1: like not knowing what our ads are because I'm like, well,

876
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:04,400
Speaker 1: I'm a radio personality and I it's it's you know,

877
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:05,919
Speaker 1: it's not up to me what the ads are. Yeah,

878
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 1: the ads aren't about me. Yeah, but basically we can

879
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 1: say a few that we put in that well, we

880
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 1: were sort of inspired by the Poog approach and we

881
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 1: were sort of like, well, how can we just get

882
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 1: like free things that we like? Because I remember being like,

883
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 1: can we do an ad for like Equinox, like I

884
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 1: want to go to a fancy gym? You Also we

885
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 1: said like we kept saying um like clothing brand like

886
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:28,840
Speaker 1: like lands end LLL being Patagonia, Like we were like

887
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 1: we want outerwear and like fun cozy pajama um Mine was,

888
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 1: which I think I've talked about. Matthew is a huge

889
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:38,839
Speaker 1: Nuts dot Com stand and so I was like, if

890
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 1: I could get free nuts dot com, like that would

891
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 1: be the most incredible present I could give him. And

892
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 1: Nuts dot Com is fris I know, was like a

893
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 1: family round company that like I wouldn't mind supporting. No,

894
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 1: that's very the thing is also what we're talking about before.

895
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 1: It's like so many corporations are so bad when it's

896
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 1: like even if their corporations, I like, like, like I

897
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 1: eat at Chipotle, I have a relationship with chipotleh And

898
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 1: I was like, it would be funny to do an

899
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 1: average pole and it's like, oh, right there in the

900
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:06,319
Speaker 1: news for like busting unions. So it's like, I don't

901
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 1: really want to do an adverage pole and really looking

902
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 1: up the email of earthenity brands, Oh no, it's gonna

903
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 1: be so embarrassing. I won't do all of them. Okay,

904
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 1: I did say Warby Parker because my glasses are Wrby Parker.

905
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 1: Guess what, I look fucking incredible? Oh. I said all

906
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 1: Cloud cookwear because they're really expensive and they're really good

907
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:27,799
Speaker 1: quality cookwear. Um. Oh, I said the Real Real because

908
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 1: I honestly have many clothes from the Real Real. Is

909
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:35,440
Speaker 1: this interesting? Um? I think it's interesting on a more

910
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 1: general sense. When would just say a study lab brand, Well,

911
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 1: it's young, it's young, it's gay, it's gay, and it

912
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 1: is random, which is why nuts dot com is in

913
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 1: a weird way the perfect it's so young, it's so gay,

914
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 1: it's like unexpected, and we could be like, you know,

915
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 1: people don't know about it, but that's not com Yeah right, okay, Sam,

916
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 1: not to be insane, but I did in fact meet

917
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:07,239
Speaker 1: your brother the other night through a mutual comedy friend,

918
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:09,320
Speaker 1: and he is lovely. I don't think I realized that

919
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 1: you had a sibling who was also a performer until

920
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 1: a few months ago, despite having been a fan of

921
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:15,440
Speaker 1: yours since the dawn of time. Wow, that's amazing as

922
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 1: someone who could not be more different from their sibling

923
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:19,400
Speaker 1: in every way, I'm so curious what it's like to

924
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 1: share this space with your brother in whatever ways you

925
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:24,799
Speaker 1: do overlap. What did this look like for you two

926
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 1: when you were growing up, How did you both end

927
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:28,879
Speaker 1: up getting into the biz, And do you ever talk

928
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 1: about slash bond over comedy stuff? I love this question. Um.

929
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 1: I love both of my siblings, my older sister and

930
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:40,720
Speaker 1: my younger brother, but my brother is in comedy. Um,

931
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 1: we've sort of like compartmentalized. I think by having it

932
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 1: be sort of different approaches, Like he has more of

933
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:53,319
Speaker 1: a writer early and director early approach, and I went

934
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 1: in more like stand up the performery, and I think

935
00:47:55,960 --> 00:48:00,879
Speaker 1: our overlap is maybe like writing like, but he's definitely

936
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:04,719
Speaker 1: more like on the film track, but I think he's

937
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 1: trying to do more stand up in in performance because

938
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:10,359
Speaker 1: he also likes solo performance and is good at it.

939
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:12,880
Speaker 1: I think it's pretty seamless for the most part, and

940
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 1: I think it's helpful to like he can ask me

941
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:18,080
Speaker 1: about like what do you think I should focus on

942
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 1: right now? Or like who, like what is a good

943
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:23,319
Speaker 1: use of my time? And like I can like one

944
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 1: time I was writing a script for I think, maybe

945
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 1: just have a sample and I but I have no

946
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 1: like training and scriptwriting where he like went to college

947
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:34,879
Speaker 1: for film and creative writing, and so I like asked

948
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 1: sent it to him and was like, what is does

949
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 1: this make sense? Like is this like structurally correct? And

950
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 1: it was like, I think, very helpful. Um, we do

951
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 1: bond over comedy stuff, you know, growing up we like

952
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:49,759
Speaker 1: the same things. We laughed at the same things, and

953
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:51,719
Speaker 1: we're influenced by a lot of the same things and

954
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 1: just made each other laugh a lot, which is not

955
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:57,759
Speaker 1: that weird. I mean it helps that he's just like

956
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:01,880
Speaker 1: a genuinely sweet and nice person and like so seamless.

957
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 1: Whenever we have gone out for drink or something and

958
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 1: he's there, he's like so seamlessly. Part of the group.

959
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 1: It's not like it's Sam's brother, like yeah, yeah, yeah,

960
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 1: he's he's the best. Yeah, he's a little stars, he's

961
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:15,239
Speaker 1: got it all and little he's twenty nine. Yeah, but

962
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 1: he is three ft four yeah, very little three inches.

963
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 1: Um all right, okay, and George George, Yes, I don't

964
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:30,799
Speaker 1: think your siblings are comedians proper, but with comedy and

965
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:32,920
Speaker 1: interest you all shared growing up. My brother and I

966
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 1: were definitely both interested in performing, but we ended up

967
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:37,880
Speaker 1: veering off in completely different directions as people as we

968
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 1: got older. T b H. I do think he's a

969
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 1: little bit jealous because I started to pursue comedy as

970
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 1: I say it, with me thirty year old, and he

971
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 1: has yet to make the leap in your resting. I

972
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 1: love that. Um. Well, yes, my sisters are incredibly funny,

973
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 1: as are my parents. And I'm not saying this is

974
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:58,720
Speaker 1: like a fake humble thing, but like when we're all together,

975
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:01,839
Speaker 1: I'm not the funniest one by any means. Like, my

976
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:06,799
Speaker 1: youngest sister is like so almost like almost vaudevillian, like

977
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:09,239
Speaker 1: she does these impressions of our grandmother that are so

978
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 1: spot on, or like in terms of my mom or

979
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 1: like she she will think of like a gesture that like,

980
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 1: let's say our mom does that I hadn't even noticed,

981
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 1: and then she does it, and it's it's like seeing,

982
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 1: you know whatever, like a really good actor played like

983
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 1: a historical figure in a movie where you're like, oh,

984
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:28,279
Speaker 1: they're like nailing the bit or whatever. Neither of them

985
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:31,600
Speaker 1: ever had any intention to pursue comedy. I don't think

986
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:33,759
Speaker 1: they're like drawn to writing or performing. I think they're

987
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 1: just like very funny and conversation and very smart. Interestingly,

988
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:41,239
Speaker 1: all three of us had an artistic passion and I'm

989
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:44,839
Speaker 1: the only one who pursued it. But I don't think

990
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 1: that for them it was like that they pursued their

991
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 1: second Like I don't think they gave up or something.

992
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 1: I think they earnestly like cared more about the more

993
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:57,719
Speaker 1: serious thing they pursued. So like my middle sister did

994
00:50:57,760 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 1: a lot of visual art, like in college she almost

995
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:02,719
Speaker 1: mine eard in art and had like a solo show

996
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:05,399
Speaker 1: of paintings and in college at some point, and took

997
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:08,240
Speaker 1: drawing classes in high school and was considering being an architect,

998
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 1: and I think just like ended up enjoying engineering and

999
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:15,440
Speaker 1: like wanting to go into a stable job. But it's

1000
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:17,040
Speaker 1: not like she like stays up at night being like,

1001
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 1: oh God, I wish I were a painter. I think

1002
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:21,279
Speaker 1: it's like it's not like a sad thing. And then

1003
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 1: my youngest sister, it was like an incredible ballet dancer

1004
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 1: who would go to like ballet camps where she was

1005
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 1: the only one that wasn't like homeschooled, like all the

1006
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 1: other ones were like specifically pursuing ballet. And my sister

1007
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 1: literally is now in medical school, and so I mean,

1008
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:39,879
Speaker 1: from what I know about the ballet world, I'm very

1009
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 1: happy she's on part of it. Like, yeah, I saw

1010
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:44,880
Speaker 1: black Swan. I cannot go through that. I don't want

1011
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:48,360
Speaker 1: her to turn into a Swan. No that. And she

1012
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:51,360
Speaker 1: just loves medicine so much. It's like, I mean, she

1013
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:54,279
Speaker 1: can't wait to be a surgeon and whatever. And there's

1014
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:57,439
Speaker 1: always thinking about residencies and all this stuff. So so yeah,

1015
00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 1: I'm the only one who pursues something creative. However, it's

1016
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 1: not that like they're jealous of me or something. They

1017
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 1: are in many ways way happier than that I am. Yeah. Okay,

1018
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:11,279
Speaker 1: this is from wit who says, how do you two

1019
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:13,800
Speaker 1: deal with a feeling that you cannot prove yourself to family, peers,

1020
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 1: or yourself with various projects you each are a part of.

1021
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 1: Or have you ever felt this? I know attacked to

1022
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 1: say I'm doing it for myself, Mama, but I really

1023
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:24,279
Speaker 1: don't ever want to lose focus and try to do

1024
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 1: something that I think would please others over my own aspirations.

1025
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:32,239
Speaker 1: Are we chasing a false and intangible satiation? Why do

1026
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:34,920
Speaker 1: I know not to compare or strive for other success,

1027
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:38,319
Speaker 1: yet spend every waking moment doing it? Will she princes me? Ever?

1028
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:43,800
Speaker 1: Be there? Love that? Um? So, what was the first question?

1029
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:46,000
Speaker 1: How to deal with a feeling that you cannot prove

1030
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 1: yourself to family, peers, or yourself with the various projects

1031
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:53,399
Speaker 1: you each are part of. Um? Well, I can tell

1032
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:55,319
Speaker 1: a story that's kind of relevant to this that I think,

1033
00:52:55,360 --> 00:53:00,200
Speaker 1: like maybe might be helpful. Um My parents have only

1034
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:02,080
Speaker 1: ever see me do stand up once. It's not because

1035
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:03,799
Speaker 1: they don't want to, because they literally live in a

1036
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:06,400
Speaker 1: different country. But one time, when they were visiting me

1037
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:09,120
Speaker 1: in Boston, I took them to my home club, the

1038
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:11,959
Speaker 1: Comedy Studio, and they saw me do a set and

1039
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:14,960
Speaker 1: they didn't have a great reaction to it. Like, I

1040
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:17,879
Speaker 1: think it was very shocking for them to see me

1041
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:23,239
Speaker 1: do something that felt so outside the realm of what

1042
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:27,240
Speaker 1: they expected I would be pursuing. And it's funny because

1043
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:28,799
Speaker 1: I had kind of planned the whole thing and it

1044
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 1: was the weekend of my grad school graduation. So I

1045
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 1: was like, Okay, well, they will first see that I

1046
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 1: did grad school, and I also have this as I

1047
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:39,560
Speaker 1: like I knew that it would be difficult for them,

1048
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:42,439
Speaker 1: but I and I wasn't and I was like, okay, great,

1049
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:44,799
Speaker 1: so there's the perfect thing, Like they will first see

1050
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:47,200
Speaker 1: me excelling academically and then they will see me do this.

1051
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:49,319
Speaker 1: And even so I could just tell that it was

1052
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:53,440
Speaker 1: like shocking for them, and I had a really really

1053
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 1: negative reaction that I kind of regret, Like I was

1054
00:53:55,719 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 1: like so offended that they weren't like complimentary, and I

1055
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:03,120
Speaker 1: was like yelling at them, and it was really like

1056
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 1: it kind of ruined our weekend, to be honest, in

1057
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:10,959
Speaker 1: a way that I don't think was necessary. Um, and

1058
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:16,480
Speaker 1: I think they respond well to like traditional markers of success.

1059
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:20,360
Speaker 1: So for instance, the fact like if we were like

1060
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:23,279
Speaker 1: written up in a magazine, They're like, oh, I know

1061
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:26,480
Speaker 1: what that is. So I am proud. And I think

1062
00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:28,240
Speaker 1: once I realized that, I was like, oh, well, then

1063
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 1: I can separate myself from that and do my own

1064
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:32,880
Speaker 1: thing and like every now and then they'll be like,

1065
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:35,200
Speaker 1: oh my god, yeah, and then they don't have to

1066
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:39,360
Speaker 1: know that I'm also doing shows like in basements like um,

1067
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:43,040
Speaker 1: and it's not and and I and I no longer.

1068
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:46,360
Speaker 1: I don't think I like really seek their approval in

1069
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:50,200
Speaker 1: that way. Yeah, I don't know is that helpful. I

1070
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:56,120
Speaker 1: don't really think I'm motivated by approval person I The

1071
00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 1: toxic things that I think about are more like, um,

1072
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 1: how am I going to make money? And and and like

1073
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:04,560
Speaker 1: will I let's say I have a job that lasted

1074
00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:06,440
Speaker 1: certain number of months, will I then be able to

1075
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:08,319
Speaker 1: find it next job? Like? Those are the things that

1076
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:11,840
Speaker 1: stressed me out more so than will I have the

1077
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:16,680
Speaker 1: approval of my peers? Yeah, I definitely think about that. Yeah,

1078
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:19,520
Speaker 1: I don't. I mean, my parents are very sweet and

1079
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:21,920
Speaker 1: they're very good at saying like we're proud of you,

1080
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 1: We're like happy that you've done that. But I also

1081
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:28,320
Speaker 1: think they I think they were skeptical when I started,

1082
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:29,840
Speaker 1: but in a way that I was like, yeah, you

1083
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:33,399
Speaker 1: should be like totally. I wasn't and I definitely it

1084
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:36,760
Speaker 1: wasn't my goal to impress them. Uh. It was always

1085
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 1: my goal to like just do it. And it was

1086
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:41,359
Speaker 1: like I understand that you're being And I almost think

1087
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:45,000
Speaker 1: that was helpful for them, because when you're looking for

1088
00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:47,359
Speaker 1: their approval, there's like, well there's nothing to approve yet,

1089
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:50,000
Speaker 1: like you haven't. It's like you just moved to New

1090
00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:53,600
Speaker 1: York to do open mics. What are you talking about? Um?

1091
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:55,640
Speaker 1: And they were essentially like, as long as you're paying

1092
00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:57,879
Speaker 1: your own rent. Like I was going to say, like

1093
00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:00,520
Speaker 1: not to open a can of worms, but like, yeah,

1094
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:03,759
Speaker 1: I would never feel comfortable like ask my parents for

1095
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:10,719
Speaker 1: money so that I could pursue gone, Like yeah, so yeah,

1096
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:13,239
Speaker 1: I think that would be Like I don't know, there's

1097
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:15,680
Speaker 1: something about being financial independent where you're like, well I

1098
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:20,080
Speaker 1: can do whatever I want. Yeah, um yeah. But in

1099
00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:23,919
Speaker 1: terms of our peers though, I do cravy. Yeah, it's true,

1100
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:26,279
Speaker 1: it's true. I really like I'm very aware of how

1101
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:28,320
Speaker 1: I react when I think someone is doing bad material

1102
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:30,840
Speaker 1: or hack material, or if they're like pandering, or if

1103
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:34,280
Speaker 1: they're doing clapture like and I do feel like sometimes

1104
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:36,319
Speaker 1: if something doesn't land. I'm so aware of the fact

1105
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:38,640
Speaker 1: that people are watching in the audience. I not to

1106
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 1: be we're being earnestness. I had a meeting in a

1107
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:45,360
Speaker 1: Los Angeles meeting and I was telling them about the

1108
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:47,880
Speaker 1: show I used to do, and because I was like

1109
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:49,520
Speaker 1: telling them about this idea I had about like a

1110
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:51,279
Speaker 1: pop star thing, and I was like, you know, I

1111
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:54,560
Speaker 1: used to the show and like I was like, you know,

1112
00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:56,279
Speaker 1: I don't know if like blank you saw it because

1113
00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:58,520
Speaker 1: you were at that other thing. And they were like,

1114
00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:01,840
Speaker 1: no one's seen that in a way where because I

1115
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:03,600
Speaker 1: was like, I think I might bring it back, but

1116
00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:06,239
Speaker 1: I'm worried it's like hack and they were like, you know,

1117
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:09,400
Speaker 1: no one, like maybe two people saw that show, like

1118
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:13,160
Speaker 1: in the whole world. And I was like, oh see,

1119
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:17,120
Speaker 1: I'm so concerned with did open mic friend to see this?

1120
00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 1: Like will they think when I post about this on

1121
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:23,120
Speaker 1: Instagram that I suck now? And it's like, why is that?

1122
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:25,440
Speaker 1: That is a weird thing to care so deeply about?

1123
00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:27,920
Speaker 1: And I think it was kind of a wake up,

1124
00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:29,120
Speaker 1: like I was like, maybe I do need to break

1125
00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 1: my I mean, it's helpful to keep in mind, but

1126
00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:35,040
Speaker 1: it's not helpful to tie yourself to Well, there's a

1127
00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:38,240
Speaker 1: way in which it's all public where I mean, imagine

1128
00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:40,840
Speaker 1: if you're someone who works in a job and you're

1129
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:43,680
Speaker 1: like making a power point presentage or something and all

1130
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:47,880
Speaker 1: your friends and like all your friends have seen every

1131
00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:50,880
Speaker 1: power point you've ever made, you know what I mean,

1132
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:52,120
Speaker 1: Like you know, like, oh my god, what am I

1133
00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:56,680
Speaker 1: gonna do? Fall back on my stop relying on that graphic, mama,

1134
00:57:57,440 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 1: And it's just like that is so unhappus, it's unnatural,

1135
00:57:59,880 --> 00:58:04,400
Speaker 1: and it like only exists in our specific literally only

1136
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:06,360
Speaker 1: in performance basic because even if you're just a writer,

1137
00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:07,880
Speaker 1: then it's just the people that are in the room

1138
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:09,480
Speaker 1: with you that know what you're pitching. You can go

1139
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:11,880
Speaker 1: and pitch the same exact joke like five times in

1140
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 1: row in different rooms and no one will know. So, yes,

1141
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:16,840
Speaker 1: it is weird. And in fact, I would like to

1142
00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:19,640
Speaker 1: retract what I said before I do crave my peers approval. Yeah,

1143
00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:21,360
Speaker 1: and I actually need to crave it a little bit

1144
00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:25,360
Speaker 1: less agreed. Okay, next question always seem to ask me

1145
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:28,280
Speaker 1: to people is about their diets and skincare routines. But

1146
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:31,000
Speaker 1: I'd like to know more about your cultural slash media diet.

1147
00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:32,800
Speaker 1: What do you consume that's good and bad for you?

1148
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:35,000
Speaker 1: How do you keep your comedy brain nourished? What rituals

1149
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:37,520
Speaker 1: do you want to build? Okay, I just want to

1150
00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:39,720
Speaker 1: say I pitched this as an idea at Glackra that

1151
00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:41,440
Speaker 1: we should do something like grub Street diet, but it's

1152
00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:44,680
Speaker 1: about people's media diet, and then we were like gonna

1153
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:47,040
Speaker 1: do it, and then literally another way I can't remember.

1154
00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:48,800
Speaker 1: I think it might be The Verge, but like another

1155
00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:53,439
Speaker 1: website started doing it and I was like pissed. Anyway, Um, yeah,

1156
00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:57,000
Speaker 1: media diets. Do you want to go first? Um? Sure,

1157
00:58:57,400 --> 00:59:00,800
Speaker 1: I think this year I'll a this year. I've been

1158
00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:03,760
Speaker 1: trying to like be more active. I mean maybe it's

1159
00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:05,560
Speaker 1: a constant pursuit. I don't remember when I started to

1160
00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:07,160
Speaker 1: be trying more active, but I'm trying to be more

1161
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:11,200
Speaker 1: active in what I do consume because I you know,

1162
00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:13,640
Speaker 1: when you're scrolling on your phone and it's like, okay,

1163
00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:15,720
Speaker 1: I just wasted an hour. Like if I am on

1164
00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:17,920
Speaker 1: like TikTok for even a half hour, I'm like, okay,

1165
00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:22,640
Speaker 1: jump off a cliff. Um. So I have taken up.

1166
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:25,840
Speaker 1: I've been reading more, which has been helpful because I

1167
00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:30,560
Speaker 1: it does calm and nourish me, and it honestly is

1168
00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:34,960
Speaker 1: like I think the older I get, the more I

1169
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:37,600
Speaker 1: return to it, where I'm like, this actually does make

1170
00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:41,480
Speaker 1: me feel better. I feel like I'm learning, but I

1171
00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:43,200
Speaker 1: also feel like I'm being entertained and I feel like

1172
00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:46,880
Speaker 1: I'm relaxing, and it really is something that is nice.

1173
00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:51,560
Speaker 1: I like watching TV is hard because there's so much TV,

1174
00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:55,120
Speaker 1: and I like I'm pretentious about it too, in a

1175
00:59:55,120 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 1: way that I don't necessarily like, where I'm like, only

1176
00:59:56,880 --> 00:59:59,680
Speaker 1: want to watch the best, and it's like I'm just

1177
00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:02,080
Speaker 1: trying to drop that, you know what. Though it's good,

1178
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:06,200
Speaker 1: it's like there's so much garbage, Like why why watch

1179
01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:08,720
Speaker 1: all the gardens? Like I'm kind of honestly, something we

1180
01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:10,320
Speaker 1: have in common is that we don't watch reality TV

1181
01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:12,120
Speaker 1: and like no offense to people who do, but like

1182
01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:18,520
Speaker 1: I kind of like that about us. Yeah, yeah, no,

1183
01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:21,600
Speaker 1: there's something to it. But I also am starting to

1184
01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:23,640
Speaker 1: get sick of like sometimes I will be like, like

1185
01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:27,360
Speaker 1: the Prestigio stuff. Yeah, yeah, I agree. I I know

1186
01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:29,439
Speaker 1: I've been a little I've been pretty uninspired by TV,

1187
01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:31,960
Speaker 1: but I am Yeah, I've also been seeing a lot

1188
01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:35,440
Speaker 1: of movies trying to it's so helpful to be able

1189
01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:36,720
Speaker 1: to go to a movie theater. For me, I don't

1190
01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:39,400
Speaker 1: like watching movies that I completely agree. What what what

1191
01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:41,800
Speaker 1: would you say to your answers? UM, Well, in terms

1192
01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:45,000
Speaker 1: of like news stuff, I every morning I try to

1193
01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:50,120
Speaker 1: read the I read the New York Times, um European

1194
01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:55,160
Speaker 1: morning newsletter really because it's like better at having like

1195
01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:58,440
Speaker 1: world news. I found that during the pandemic, the US

1196
01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:04,280
Speaker 1: one was so like focused on specifically COVID news in

1197
01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:07,640
Speaker 1: the US, where I was like, I understand this is important,

1198
01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:10,840
Speaker 1: but like it's not helping me to just like read

1199
01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:14,680
Speaker 1: the numbers every morning and then like five paragraphs about them.

1200
01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:17,600
Speaker 1: And so that has been kind of a nice just

1201
01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:20,320
Speaker 1: like it's like a nice rundown of just like what's

1202
01:01:20,360 --> 01:01:22,720
Speaker 1: going on in the world, And even if sometimes it

1203
01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:24,720
Speaker 1: kind of washes over me. I'm like, at any given point,

1204
01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:27,160
Speaker 1: I like vaguely know what's happening in Ukraine, and like

1205
01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:29,960
Speaker 1: vaguely know if there's an election in another country, and

1206
01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:31,760
Speaker 1: I think it's like I don't know. It's just like

1207
01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:34,960
Speaker 1: a nice um. Not that I have like important opinions

1208
01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:36,600
Speaker 1: about any of these things, but it is nice to

1209
01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:38,760
Speaker 1: just like be aware. I find that it makes me

1210
01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:40,560
Speaker 1: feel like more grounded in the world to like have

1211
01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:43,440
Speaker 1: a sense of what's going on. And then we subscribe

1212
01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:46,080
Speaker 1: to like the New Yorker and New York Magazine because

1213
01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:48,520
Speaker 1: my boyfriend works there, and those that kind of like

1214
01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:50,080
Speaker 1: dip in and out. Like there can be like months

1215
01:01:50,120 --> 01:01:52,080
Speaker 1: from IM like really reading a lot of magazines and

1216
01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:54,120
Speaker 1: then full like six months where I don't open a

1217
01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:56,880
Speaker 1: single one. Another thing I would like to add is

1218
01:01:56,920 --> 01:01:59,000
Speaker 1: that one thing, one specific thing that I can't tell

1219
01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:00,800
Speaker 1: if it's good or brad for me that I am

1220
01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:04,960
Speaker 1: doing right now is playing the like playing video games,

1221
01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:08,760
Speaker 1: and specifically I've been playing like elden Ring, which is

1222
01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:12,920
Speaker 1: like very involved and requires like you have to like

1223
01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:16,000
Speaker 1: remember you have to like know the map and like

1224
01:02:16,360 --> 01:02:18,800
Speaker 1: remember where to go to get certain items, and it's

1225
01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:22,840
Speaker 1: like very expansive and like very time consuming, and I

1226
01:02:22,880 --> 01:02:25,040
Speaker 1: do have fun with it, but I'm at the same time,

1227
01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:28,720
Speaker 1: I'm like that was four hours totally was what do

1228
01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:31,080
Speaker 1: I feel better? And I cannot tell And I know

1229
01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:34,840
Speaker 1: not everything needs to be for productivity. You can have fun, um,

1230
01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:38,280
Speaker 1: but I am sort of torn on like whether or

1231
01:02:38,320 --> 01:02:43,360
Speaker 1: not that is like even a good way to have fun. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Um,

1232
01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:45,760
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think in terms of like movies music,

1233
01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:48,240
Speaker 1: Like music is honestly something I would like to be

1234
01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:50,840
Speaker 1: better at being intentional about. I don't I've never been

1235
01:02:50,840 --> 01:02:53,360
Speaker 1: someone who makes playlists. I end up just like whatever

1236
01:02:53,480 --> 01:02:56,000
Speaker 1: comes to mind. I'm like, uh, him, and then I'll

1237
01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:58,160
Speaker 1: just like play him and like let it, let it play,

1238
01:02:58,320 --> 01:03:00,520
Speaker 1: or like I don't know, we gotta record player, and

1239
01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:03,320
Speaker 1: I thought that would be better for us, but then

1240
01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:06,080
Speaker 1: it's like, okay, well now we have like nine records.

1241
01:03:07,080 --> 01:03:10,560
Speaker 1: I guess it's like a lifelong battle. Um. And then

1242
01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:12,400
Speaker 1: like movies, I completely agree with you that I have

1243
01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:13,600
Speaker 1: to be in a theater. I mean, I don't have

1244
01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:14,760
Speaker 1: to be in a theater, but it really helps to

1245
01:03:14,760 --> 01:03:16,760
Speaker 1: be in a theater. Like I thought I would be

1246
01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:18,840
Speaker 1: so much better at watching movies during the pandemic. I

1247
01:03:18,840 --> 01:03:20,919
Speaker 1: subscribe to criteria and all this stuff, and I never

1248
01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:24,360
Speaker 1: want to watch movies. No, you need a theater, I yeah.

1249
01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:26,840
Speaker 1: And then TV, I'm like, I don't know, it's like

1250
01:03:26,880 --> 01:03:28,400
Speaker 1: every now and then I'll get into a show. But

1251
01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:31,960
Speaker 1: I've been rewatching a lot of Curb and thirty Rock

1252
01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:43,880
Speaker 1: I'm watching curb too. Okay, next question. The question is, George,

1253
01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:46,080
Speaker 1: you have hinted that there are much better Greek aisles

1254
01:03:46,080 --> 01:03:48,760
Speaker 1: to visit than the popular tourist destinations. Can you give

1255
01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:51,200
Speaker 1: a breakdown. I am badly needed a vacation and this

1256
01:03:51,240 --> 01:03:57,040
Speaker 1: is our last email question. Okay, can you answer? All right? Wow,

1257
01:03:57,520 --> 01:04:02,920
Speaker 1: I'm alone in the room. I'm alone in the room. Um. Yes,

1258
01:04:03,080 --> 01:04:05,800
Speaker 1: I would say that I am a little out of

1259
01:04:05,800 --> 01:04:07,760
Speaker 1: the loop in terms of what the trendy islands are.

1260
01:04:07,800 --> 01:04:09,520
Speaker 1: I feel like I used to be way more aware

1261
01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:11,640
Speaker 1: of that when I was in high school. But I

1262
01:04:11,720 --> 01:04:13,480
Speaker 1: really like when I was in high school, when I

1263
01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:18,760
Speaker 1: was like eighteen, I really liked going to ka um

1264
01:04:18,920 --> 01:04:23,880
Speaker 1: ko u f f f okay ko u f o

1265
01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:28,600
Speaker 1: n I s s i um. It's like super walkable

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Speaker 1: and there's a lot of like camping and it doesn't

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Speaker 1: feel to overrun by tourists. And then I would say

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Speaker 1: that if you look into like the less well known

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Speaker 1: cyclastic islands, so the most well known ones obviously like

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Speaker 1: Santrainian Miconos, but if you look at like Folegndros or Amoros,

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Speaker 1: those are really nice places. Idra and Spetzes are really

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01:04:48,680 --> 01:04:52,040
Speaker 1: nice islands to go to. And then my family recently

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01:04:52,080 --> 01:04:54,440
Speaker 1: has been going to Tinos, which is very up and coming,

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Speaker 1: I hear, but again, I'm sure I'm missing things. I

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01:04:58,960 --> 01:05:02,600
Speaker 1: whenever people ask me for cool rex, like queer rex

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01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:06,200
Speaker 1: or like recommendations and Athens, I I'm always at a

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01:05:06,200 --> 01:05:07,880
Speaker 1: loss because I truly have not lived there since I

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01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:11,600
Speaker 1: was eighteen, and it has undergone many different booms and

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Speaker 1: busts since then, So that would be my answer. Wow,

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Speaker 1: I can't believe there were enough islands to talk about

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01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:22,800
Speaker 1: while I went pe. Okay, so those are our email questions,

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01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:25,440
Speaker 1: by the way, we say this every time we do this,

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01:05:25,480 --> 01:05:27,360
Speaker 1: but we can't get to all the questions. But we

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01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:31,160
Speaker 1: did read literally every single one of them, and and

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01:05:31,280 --> 01:05:33,640
Speaker 1: some of them we didn't get to, not because they're bad,

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01:05:33,680 --> 01:05:35,880
Speaker 1: but because they like would require too long of an

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Speaker 1: answer and there's simply no time. But we appreciate every

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Speaker 1: single one of them genuinely. Okay, all right, and I

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Speaker 1: will say we have four questions left. Okay, here's one

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Speaker 1: from Caroline, how do y'all feel about marijuana? And then

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Speaker 1: it's twelve question marks. See, I love our d M

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Speaker 1: questions because they're definitely a more casual energy in a

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01:05:58,360 --> 01:06:05,640
Speaker 1: way that is like are appropriate, Um, I can start.

1294
01:06:03,840 --> 01:06:08,480
Speaker 1: I feel like for literally I was scared of it

1295
01:06:08,600 --> 01:06:11,200
Speaker 1: and bad at it for like still I was like

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Speaker 1: twenty seven, And now I'm like, I think, actually maybe

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01:06:15,240 --> 01:06:19,120
Speaker 1: I'll even very rarely did it until like the pandemic

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01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:21,280
Speaker 1: and then I was like, okay, I need something else

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01:06:21,400 --> 01:06:26,400
Speaker 1: around here. Um, and now it's like a It's like

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01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:28,720
Speaker 1: such a fun I love. Now I'm like a once

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01:06:28,720 --> 01:06:32,160
Speaker 1: a week and Edible on a Sunday is like the

1302
01:06:32,680 --> 01:06:35,960
Speaker 1: truly the best way to relax. Um. I love the stuff.

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01:06:36,040 --> 01:06:40,280
Speaker 1: I honestly love to I I have never I'm just

1304
01:06:40,320 --> 01:06:42,480
Speaker 1: not a big I'm not a big weed person. First

1305
01:06:42,520 --> 01:06:44,600
Speaker 1: of all, I think we maybe even talked about this.

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01:06:44,680 --> 01:06:48,520
Speaker 1: I have never been a social weed person. Or when

1307
01:06:48,520 --> 01:06:50,640
Speaker 1: people are like I love like smoking weed and running errands,

1308
01:06:50,680 --> 01:06:53,240
Speaker 1: it's like absolutely not. I feel out of my mind.

1309
01:06:53,560 --> 01:06:56,720
Speaker 1: If I'm gonna smoke weed, I have to be at home,

1310
01:06:57,400 --> 01:07:03,760
Speaker 1: either alone or with my partner. I'm like, lock the door, ma, mo,

1311
01:07:04,880 --> 01:07:06,600
Speaker 1: what I do. Like my co worker was telling me

1312
01:07:06,640 --> 01:07:10,080
Speaker 1: that she doesn't edible like as a sleep aid at night,

1313
01:07:10,160 --> 01:07:12,640
Speaker 1: and I do have really bad insomnia. And if I

1314
01:07:12,680 --> 01:07:14,960
Speaker 1: could find a way to do that in a healthy way.

1315
01:07:15,520 --> 01:07:17,760
Speaker 1: I would love that. Like if I could like naturally

1316
01:07:17,760 --> 01:07:19,560
Speaker 1: fall I mean obviously would not be natural. If I

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01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:22,800
Speaker 1: could artificially falls um every night, that would be great.

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01:07:23,320 --> 01:07:25,520
Speaker 1: But yeah, I have been doing it a little bit

1319
01:07:25,520 --> 01:07:28,400
Speaker 1: more during the pandemic um, but it's like maybe once

1320
01:07:28,440 --> 01:07:33,200
Speaker 1: every few weeks. And yeah, I'm not I'm just I'm

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01:07:33,240 --> 01:07:36,760
Speaker 1: not a huge weed head. But I'm learning and I'm listening.

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01:07:37,040 --> 01:07:41,400
Speaker 1: Yeah I'm seeing value in it. All right, Okay, this

1323
01:07:41,440 --> 01:07:44,320
Speaker 1: is such a fun question from Richard. It simply says,

1324
01:07:44,440 --> 01:07:46,840
Speaker 1: are people nicer than they used to be? I love

1325
01:07:46,920 --> 01:07:50,040
Speaker 1: those question so much. And this again, DM questions nothing

1326
01:07:50,040 --> 01:07:52,440
Speaker 1: with respect to my emailers. You are so efficient and

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01:07:52,480 --> 01:07:55,080
Speaker 1: you really are good at your jobs. But the d

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01:07:55,280 --> 01:07:58,200
Speaker 1: M people really can cut to the core and this

1329
01:07:58,480 --> 01:08:02,840
Speaker 1: very quick way. Email questions are like shout outs. D

1330
01:08:03,040 --> 01:08:06,560
Speaker 1: M questions are like straight shooters. Yes, okay, the question

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01:08:06,680 --> 01:08:09,680
Speaker 1: is are people nicer than they used to be? And

1332
01:08:09,720 --> 01:08:12,960
Speaker 1: so this is such a simple question and yet so

1333
01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:17,959
Speaker 1: so complicated because I actually feel so much more turmoil generally,

1334
01:08:19,960 --> 01:08:24,240
Speaker 1: where like like people are nice, like the people that

1335
01:08:24,320 --> 01:08:27,000
Speaker 1: like us are nice. Oh, I didn't even think about

1336
01:08:27,000 --> 01:08:30,519
Speaker 1: it in terms of us, I felt, I, okay, in

1337
01:08:30,560 --> 01:08:33,160
Speaker 1: my mind, this is like a general question about the world,

1338
01:08:33,160 --> 01:08:35,519
Speaker 1: which I like even more. Are people nicer than they

1339
01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:38,120
Speaker 1: used to be? Is that wrong? You're probably right. I

1340
01:08:38,120 --> 01:08:40,240
Speaker 1: guess it should be about well, I mean, there's no context.

1341
01:08:40,240 --> 01:08:42,040
Speaker 1: We could it could be either. I kind of like

1342
01:08:42,080 --> 01:08:44,680
Speaker 1: the general one me too, But the other one, the

1343
01:08:44,760 --> 01:08:47,000
Speaker 1: one about us, is more earnest. I guess that's true.

1344
01:08:47,760 --> 01:08:52,600
Speaker 1: But I mean, let's I'll answer that. I'll answer from um.

1345
01:08:52,640 --> 01:08:57,280
Speaker 1: I think both of us are. We're also receiving critique

1346
01:08:57,320 --> 01:08:59,800
Speaker 1: in a way that is new, like just because there's

1347
01:08:59,840 --> 01:09:02,519
Speaker 1: more people listening where it'll be like there will just

1348
01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:05,599
Speaker 1: like there's more separation like there it's not like, oh,

1349
01:09:05,640 --> 01:09:08,639
Speaker 1: I'm friends with someone that's friends with them. It's like, oh,

1350
01:09:08,840 --> 01:09:11,120
Speaker 1: that's a I don't know these guys at all, and

1351
01:09:11,160 --> 01:09:13,360
Speaker 1: I listened to their podcast and like this bothered me

1352
01:09:13,520 --> 01:09:16,040
Speaker 1: or like and it's sort of like, oh, weird, Like

1353
01:09:16,520 --> 01:09:18,920
Speaker 1: it's really hard for me to like shake it when

1354
01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:21,840
Speaker 1: someone says something negative in a way that is I'm

1355
01:09:21,880 --> 01:09:24,360
Speaker 1: sure we have more positive than negative, but the negative

1356
01:09:24,479 --> 01:09:27,000
Speaker 1: stick out so hard, and so I'm always like, so

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01:09:27,040 --> 01:09:29,720
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, people are meaner than ever before. Yeah,

1358
01:09:29,960 --> 01:09:33,200
Speaker 1: it's true. Yeah, I mean, and now you talk from

1359
01:09:33,200 --> 01:09:34,760
Speaker 1: a general I like don't yeah, I like don't want

1360
01:09:34,760 --> 01:09:37,760
Speaker 1: to harp on it. But because ultimately, like we're very

1361
01:09:37,840 --> 01:09:41,880
Speaker 1: lucky generally speaking, of course, but we are both cancers

1362
01:09:42,960 --> 01:09:45,880
Speaker 1: and like it comes with some baggage rushes me if

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01:09:45,880 --> 01:09:50,320
Speaker 1: someone says a single thing that's like me and uh,

1364
01:09:50,520 --> 01:09:53,840
Speaker 1: sadly there's no filter where you can just choose nice

1365
01:09:53,880 --> 01:09:56,519
Speaker 1: only yeah, because it is like I want you to

1366
01:09:56,520 --> 01:09:58,680
Speaker 1: be able to express yourself. It's just like I just

1367
01:09:58,720 --> 01:10:01,160
Speaker 1: don't really want to know. I know, yeah, that's that.

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01:10:01,479 --> 01:10:03,479
Speaker 1: It's true, it is. It's also just like an impulse

1369
01:10:03,520 --> 01:10:06,439
Speaker 1: that like I've never left a bad Yelp review, Like

1370
01:10:06,479 --> 01:10:08,719
Speaker 1: it's just a different style of it's a different type

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01:10:08,720 --> 01:10:13,160
Speaker 1: of personality totally, which is totally fine. Um. In terms

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Speaker 1: of people generally being nicer than they used to be,

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01:10:15,720 --> 01:10:18,600
Speaker 1: I kind of think people are less nice than they

1374
01:10:18,680 --> 01:10:21,479
Speaker 1: used to be because I think there's this is gonna

1375
01:10:21,520 --> 01:10:26,200
Speaker 1: sound so conservative, but I almost think like, uh, there

1376
01:10:26,280 --> 01:10:31,160
Speaker 1: is there is less consensus about what good manners are

1377
01:10:31,240 --> 01:10:33,479
Speaker 1: almost totally do you know you know what I mean?

1378
01:10:34,479 --> 01:10:37,479
Speaker 1: Like there's almost something where I'm like, sometimes people just

1379
01:10:37,520 --> 01:10:40,320
Speaker 1: act like completely people that are like you know that

1380
01:10:40,400 --> 01:10:43,040
Speaker 1: you interact with, like strangers on the street or at

1381
01:10:43,040 --> 01:10:45,000
Speaker 1: a store or with a barista or whatever, Like sometimes

1382
01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:47,920
Speaker 1: people act in such an insane way where I'm like, oh,

1383
01:10:47,960 --> 01:10:50,799
Speaker 1: I guess maybe WASPS made some points when they decided

1384
01:10:50,840 --> 01:10:56,360
Speaker 1: to be like emotionally stunted and shut down. But you know,

1385
01:10:57,040 --> 01:10:59,360
Speaker 1: I have to agree, I think people are less nice. Yeah,

1386
01:10:59,439 --> 01:11:02,880
Speaker 1: all right, okay, this is another Twitter question. Will you

1387
01:11:02,920 --> 01:11:07,080
Speaker 1: both leave Twitter or stay? Okay, so, uh, how do

1388
01:11:07,080 --> 01:11:11,719
Speaker 1: you feel about this? I'm very curious um, to be honest,

1389
01:11:12,080 --> 01:11:13,840
Speaker 1: I mean talk about like we were talking about our

1390
01:11:13,880 --> 01:11:17,599
Speaker 1: media dies before, Like I've say this constantly, but like

1391
01:11:18,760 --> 01:11:21,920
Speaker 1: it really is my one gravest addiction in a way

1392
01:11:21,920 --> 01:11:25,880
Speaker 1: that feels at this point so humiliating, so like two

1393
01:11:25,880 --> 01:11:29,200
Speaker 1: thousand thirteen, but I wish I could quit it. And

1394
01:11:29,200 --> 01:11:31,080
Speaker 1: it's like when you talk about playing video games, that's

1395
01:11:31,200 --> 01:11:34,200
Speaker 1: literally how I am sometimes with Twitter, where it'll it'll

1396
01:11:34,320 --> 01:11:36,920
Speaker 1: just like get sucked in and it doesn't even feel

1397
01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:39,360
Speaker 1: relevant anymore. Like no, it's it's kind of like a

1398
01:11:39,400 --> 01:11:41,880
Speaker 1: flop platform. Like the people left there are like it's

1399
01:11:41,880 --> 01:11:46,080
Speaker 1: like a you know, it's like Batman's Gotham and you're

1400
01:11:46,120 --> 01:11:48,559
Speaker 1: like in a dark alleyway or something. And yet for

1401
01:11:48,600 --> 01:11:52,160
Speaker 1: whatever reason, I think because I have met people there,

1402
01:11:52,320 --> 01:11:56,559
Speaker 1: it has been like I've even gotten professional opportunities there

1403
01:11:56,600 --> 01:11:59,240
Speaker 1: or whatever. There's just something about it that it's almost

1404
01:11:59,280 --> 01:12:01,599
Speaker 1: like a safety blank or something. It's also just my

1405
01:12:01,880 --> 01:12:03,400
Speaker 1: and it's hard to tell this as a chicken or

1406
01:12:03,439 --> 01:12:06,240
Speaker 1: the egg situation, but like it's so much easier for

1407
01:12:06,240 --> 01:12:09,439
Speaker 1: my brain to think in that format, Like I can't

1408
01:12:09,439 --> 01:12:11,840
Speaker 1: go on like it's so easy to like fire off

1409
01:12:11,880 --> 01:12:14,720
Speaker 1: a tweet and not care, Like I can't fire off

1410
01:12:14,720 --> 01:12:16,519
Speaker 1: an Instagram and not care. I can't fire off a

1411
01:12:16,560 --> 01:12:19,759
Speaker 1: TikTok and not care, Like a tweet is so low lift,

1412
01:12:19,960 --> 01:12:23,040
Speaker 1: and so I can cut to the chase of what

1413
01:12:23,080 --> 01:12:26,760
Speaker 1: I'm trying to. Also just how my brain works, Like, yeah,

1414
01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:31,639
Speaker 1: I I think I naturally think in little bite sized thought.

1415
01:12:31,640 --> 01:12:34,320
Speaker 1: It's not the best original, but like that is I

1416
01:12:34,360 --> 01:12:37,920
Speaker 1: think way more that than like conceptually like some people

1417
01:12:38,040 --> 01:12:41,320
Speaker 1: do who are like make like complicated videos or something

1418
01:12:41,360 --> 01:12:44,360
Speaker 1: like I That's just how I think. It has always

1419
01:12:44,360 --> 01:12:46,600
Speaker 1: Like I remember, you know, early days when it was

1420
01:12:46,720 --> 01:12:49,559
Speaker 1: mostly jokes, Like I thought it was so funny and like,

1421
01:12:50,439 --> 01:12:52,160
Speaker 1: you know, you've spent like five minutes on it and

1422
01:12:52,280 --> 01:12:56,519
Speaker 1: laugh like three times. Um, but yeah, now it is bad.

1423
01:12:57,760 --> 01:12:59,800
Speaker 1: It's bad. It's hard to give up though it's bad,

1424
01:12:59,800 --> 01:13:02,680
Speaker 1: and almost like it's almost like all these people are

1425
01:13:02,720 --> 01:13:05,280
Speaker 1: like in pain. There's also this this thing where people

1426
01:13:05,360 --> 01:13:08,800
Speaker 1: act so um detached in a way where we're like,

1427
01:13:08,840 --> 01:13:12,519
Speaker 1: oh God, like at this point you're like thirty five

1428
01:13:12,560 --> 01:13:16,599
Speaker 1: and have two kids, like, I don't know, I got

1429
01:13:16,600 --> 01:13:18,599
Speaker 1: to move on. You gotta move on. And people are

1430
01:13:18,640 --> 01:13:21,200
Speaker 1: like really trying to keep the bits up and it's

1431
01:13:21,200 --> 01:13:23,920
Speaker 1: like it's to you know, people like making like literally

1432
01:13:23,920 --> 01:13:28,080
Speaker 1: like fake conversation and it's like what are we doing here?

1433
01:13:28,360 --> 01:13:30,000
Speaker 1: There is a part of me that almost wishes it

1434
01:13:30,000 --> 01:13:33,920
Speaker 1: would all crash and I would be like freed. I'm yeah,

1435
01:13:34,160 --> 01:13:35,800
Speaker 1: kind of how I feel. Honestly, I wonder what my

1436
01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:40,640
Speaker 1: brain would do afterwards. But while it is around, I

1437
01:13:40,640 --> 01:13:43,720
Speaker 1: will still probably check it and still probably use it unfortunately.

1438
01:13:44,360 --> 01:13:48,080
Speaker 1: All right, last question, Oh my gosh, this is from Dana.

1439
01:13:48,640 --> 01:13:50,839
Speaker 1: What do each of you believe to be the straightest

1440
01:13:51,000 --> 01:13:54,400
Speaker 1: art medium and why? And then bonus question, which is

1441
01:13:54,439 --> 01:13:56,680
Speaker 1: actually a really good one to end on what are

1442
01:13:56,680 --> 01:13:59,800
Speaker 1: each of you looking forward to most. So first, what

1443
01:13:59,920 --> 01:14:02,840
Speaker 1: is the straightest art medium and why? That's a really

1444
01:14:02,840 --> 01:14:07,000
Speaker 1: good question. I mean I'll say not painting, not painting,

1445
01:14:07,760 --> 01:14:16,080
Speaker 1: not even sculpture, not sculpture, um, potentially performance art interesting

1446
01:14:16,560 --> 01:14:20,200
Speaker 1: so unexpected. Yeah, no, I mean that's probably not right.

1447
01:14:20,240 --> 01:14:23,040
Speaker 1: I actually have a good one. I think it's like

1448
01:14:23,280 --> 01:14:27,360
Speaker 1: graphic design. Mm hmmm. And I understand there are arguments

1449
01:14:27,360 --> 01:14:29,880
Speaker 1: of the contrary, but I feel like a sort of

1450
01:14:29,920 --> 01:14:35,720
Speaker 1: like being like a font nerd and like and and yeah,

1451
01:14:35,760 --> 01:14:40,639
Speaker 1: I really font nerds specifically, is it? Yeah? I mean,

1452
01:14:40,680 --> 01:14:44,160
Speaker 1: to be honest, it's like sometimes you know, you go

1453
01:14:44,439 --> 01:14:47,280
Speaker 1: to like, um, oh god, what's that museum? It's like

1454
01:14:47,320 --> 01:14:49,719
Speaker 1: designs like the Cooper the Cooper Hue, I can't remember,

1455
01:14:49,720 --> 01:14:53,200
Speaker 1: but you got to like, um, like a little museum

1456
01:14:53,240 --> 01:14:57,680
Speaker 1: exhibition of like design work, and you're like, oh, yeah, no,

1457
01:14:57,760 --> 01:15:00,600
Speaker 1: this is why painting is better. Like, of course, I

1458
01:15:00,720 --> 01:15:03,320
Speaker 1: like respect industrial design and graphic center all this stuff.

1459
01:15:03,520 --> 01:15:05,679
Speaker 1: Industrial design is another thing where people are like the

1460
01:15:05,680 --> 01:15:07,840
Speaker 1: the iPod with such a beautiful artifact. You're like, yeah,

1461
01:15:07,840 --> 01:15:09,880
Speaker 1: it was, but like I actually would rather look at

1462
01:15:09,880 --> 01:15:15,080
Speaker 1: a painting. That's my answer. Yeah, No, that's a very

1463
01:15:15,080 --> 01:15:18,799
Speaker 1: good answer. Um. I also want to say that pranks

1464
01:15:18,960 --> 01:15:22,200
Speaker 1: and pranks are art there and they are a straight art.

1465
01:15:22,600 --> 01:15:26,080
Speaker 1: Great all right, final question, what are each of you

1466
01:15:26,120 --> 01:15:34,320
Speaker 1: looking forward to most? Wow? The Oscars? Yeah, I want

1467
01:15:34,400 --> 01:15:39,080
Speaker 1: Kate Blanchett to win. I don't know, It's like, I

1468
01:15:39,120 --> 01:15:41,760
Speaker 1: still have a month. I have to have to do

1469
01:15:41,800 --> 01:15:43,160
Speaker 1: a lot of goals. I have to go to the

1470
01:15:43,240 --> 01:15:46,400
Speaker 1: dentist the next month, and that is a true goal

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01:15:46,439 --> 01:15:49,120
Speaker 1: of mine. Do you know what I'm looking forward to? Okay,

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Speaker 1: I don't really track, Like I haven't really traveled other

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Speaker 1: than seeing my parents, which obviously I'm very lucky that

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Speaker 1: my parents live in a very beautiful country and that

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Speaker 1: does count as travel. Okay. However, I'm not someone who

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Speaker 1: like is like I'm going to Japan. You know. I

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Speaker 1: don't do a lot of big trips like that, and

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Speaker 1: I think that this year I want to do, like

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Speaker 1: do an international trip for pleasure with my boyfriend, and uh,

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Speaker 1: I kind of want to be the one to plan it.

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Speaker 1: And I wanted to be like a fun you know,

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Speaker 1: a fun thing I do as an adult. I think

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Speaker 1: that's very fun. I God, what am I looking more

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Speaker 1: proposing to? Misha mom Um? Why don't you gonna get

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Speaker 1: my grandkids? No? I, um, yeah, I don't know. Wow. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: is that a good answer. Yeah, there's kind of beauty

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Speaker 1: of that. I don't um. I will have goals, but

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Speaker 1: part of my thing with goals is never to expect

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Speaker 1: them and more. There are things I was trying not

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Speaker 1: to go career. Yeah, and I even mean like like,

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Speaker 1: I also have talked about trying to go abroad next year,

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Speaker 1: like in like but then I'm like, but realistically will

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Speaker 1: I I'm not sure I would like to. But wanting

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Speaker 1: to do something and doing it are different. Yeah, So

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure. Well, you're open to possibilities, You're going

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Speaker 1: out into the world, and you're saying I say yes

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Speaker 1: to it all. Yeah, I'm looking forward to a new

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Speaker 1: killer season of Drag Race this spring. I know, I'm

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Speaker 1: are there cultural things we're looking forward to. I mean, oh,

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Speaker 1: you know what, I'm again, this is all I don't know.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of it goes back to my theater thing,

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01:17:39,400 --> 01:17:42,120
Speaker 1: like I kind of have a you found zest for

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01:17:42,200 --> 01:17:44,600
Speaker 1: things that I, like, I didn't do before the pandemic.

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Speaker 1: So I'm like, honestly, this is so embarrassing to admit

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01:17:48,520 --> 01:17:50,880
Speaker 1: like seeing Tar made me want to like go to

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Speaker 1: the Philarmonic, Like I want to do that. I've never

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Speaker 1: done that, Like I think that would be really fun

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Speaker 1: or like something like that, or like I don't know,

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Speaker 1: like take advantage of things that are like close to

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Speaker 1: us that we wouldn't think to do. Like that's that's

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Speaker 1: like kind of where I'm at right now. I'm like

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Speaker 1: excited about like reading the goings on about Town section

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Speaker 1: of the New York and being like, well, I'll go

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Speaker 1: to that exhibit. Well, if it's going going on about town,

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Speaker 1: that's where I lived. Yeah, yeah, yeah, oh sure. You

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Speaker 1: know what else? Something for it took My sister moved

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Speaker 1: to New York in the last couple of months, and

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Speaker 1: it's been so nice to have her, and I'm like

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Speaker 1: excited about like doing things together and you know what else?

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Speaker 1: I have a final, finally answer. I'm gonna relearn how

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Speaker 1: to drive. And that is a promise in I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: take driving lessons and re get my license. Well, you

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Speaker 1: have so many things, thank you. I'm like, yeah, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna um, damn, I'm gonna commit. You're gonna get that

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Speaker 1: big back tattoo that you've always wanted. Yeah, yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: I'm well, we're redoing the bedroom. Um m mmmmm. We're

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Speaker 1: going to figure out the internet. Yeah, well I have

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Speaker 1: to figure um no, I'm I'm looking forward to whatever comes.

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Speaker 1: Love them great, Well, well, thank you all for listening.

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Speaker 1: I hope this wasn't boring as hell, and if it was, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's the point and sorry for all the ads. Alright,

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Speaker 1: Happy Thanksgiving, love you, love you bye.