WEBVTT - The Season with Peter Schrager: Michael Vick

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<v Speaker 1>The Season with Peter Schrager is a production of the

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<v Speaker 1>NFL in partnership with iHeartRadio. What's Up, Everybody, Welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>the Season with Peter Schreger. I am Peter Schreger. You

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<v Speaker 1>might see me on Good Morning Football in the mornings.

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<v Speaker 1>You might see me on Fox NFL Kickoff on Sundays.

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<v Speaker 1>If my voice is a little hoarse, it's because it's

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<v Speaker 1>been a wild few days. Sunday we were we did

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<v Speaker 1>the Fox NFL Kickoff Show. We had the best episode

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<v Speaker 1>of the season. It's myself, it's Julian Edelman, Michael Vick,

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<v Speaker 1>Charles Woodson, and Chris Thompson. We have a blast. And

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<v Speaker 1>then I had never been to a Chargers home game,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was sticking around LA to do Good Morning Football.

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<v Speaker 1>So I went to Chargers Chiefs in person, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>telling you, three quarters into that game, that felt like

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<v Speaker 1>a chart victory. And then, like they do, the Chiefs

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<v Speaker 1>snatch it at the last second. But I came away

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<v Speaker 1>just amazed, amazed by Steve Spagnolo's defense. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>we're a month into the season and I have so

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<v Speaker 1>many observations based on what we thought the first week.

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<v Speaker 1>Then it changes the second week, then we overreact the

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<v Speaker 1>third week and one of the fourth week. I've been

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<v Speaker 1>doing this long enough where I think October is really

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<v Speaker 1>where we start to see the best teams in football

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<v Speaker 1>more importantly, you don't want to peak week one, week two,

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<v Speaker 1>week three. Things start to settle and things start to

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<v Speaker 1>show themselves more in October. For example, this Chiefs team,

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<v Speaker 1>we knew they were going to be down a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of weapons once you saw Hollywood Brown got hurt and

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<v Speaker 1>Isaiah Pacheco got hurt. Now you lose Rashi Rice, which

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of the day on Tuesday was like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it might be a little better the next way,

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<v Speaker 1>he's gonna be out. He's gonna be out for a

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<v Speaker 1>long time. The Chiefs rolled out there Carson Steele as

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<v Speaker 1>their number one running back.

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<v Speaker 2>He fumbled.

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<v Speaker 1>They didn't give him the ball again. So now it's

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<v Speaker 1>Kareem Hunt, samaj p Ryan to aging veteran running backs.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a rookie Xavier Worthy who had three catches and

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<v Speaker 1>the big touchdown, and that's great, but I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if he's gonna get the load. It's gonna be an

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<v Speaker 1>aging Travis Kelce. It's Noah great it's justin Watson, it's Skymore,

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<v Speaker 1>who you could tell the team is just is just

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<v Speaker 1>beyond frustrated with and it's like, all right, Chiefs, four

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<v Speaker 1>weeks into this season, how are we gonna win games?

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<v Speaker 1>Their defense? The defense is awesome. Herbert's out there and

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<v Speaker 1>he's dealing to McConkie the first few drives and then

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<v Speaker 1>it just completely stops. And you see what the Chiefs do,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's McDuffie coming in off a zero blitz off

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<v Speaker 1>the corner spot. You see Chris Jones just absolutely annihiling

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<v Speaker 1>people in defensive line. Teams change, Teams change because they

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<v Speaker 1>have to cheats adapt. The Chiefs might go and get

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<v Speaker 1>make a big swing and make a trade and get

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<v Speaker 1>another wide receiver. Great, that'll keep them a float. But

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<v Speaker 1>if the Chiefs are gonna do it again this year

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<v Speaker 1>and they're gonna win three in a row, it's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be based on their defense, and it's gonna be based

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<v Speaker 1>on Andy Reid's ingenuity on offense, and it's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>based on mahomes Is finding a way they're not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>score thirty and forty points in games, not with the

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<v Speaker 1>offense that they have, and not how that team is

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<v Speaker 1>built right now. But they will stop you and they

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<v Speaker 1>will hold you under twenty. And if that's the case,

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<v Speaker 1>they can win October. This is where we start to

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<v Speaker 1>see these teams come together the Chiefs. That's what I

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<v Speaker 1>think is going to have to take for them to

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<v Speaker 1>do this. And I know it's just one month in,

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<v Speaker 1>but you're gonna see there's gonna be a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>inks billed on what's wrong with with Mahomes, what's wrong

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<v Speaker 1>with Kelsey. It's already started. But as long as they

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<v Speaker 1>keep winning and they get that home field advantage in

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<v Speaker 1>Kansas City, or at least get a couple of those

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<v Speaker 1>games in Kansas City in the playoffs, they'll be there

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<v Speaker 1>at the end. I look at the Baltimore Ravens. Everyone

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<v Speaker 1>picked them to either go to the Super Bowl or

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<v Speaker 1>win the AFC North. Two weeks into the season, there

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<v Speaker 1>is masssteria, tough loss Week one, and then you know,

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<v Speaker 1>bone crushing, soul crushing last week two. Well what happens

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<v Speaker 1>week three? Mixed results. They go into DA they get

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<v Speaker 1>a big lead, but they almost give it up. And

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<v Speaker 1>then finally week four, week four, they start showing what

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<v Speaker 1>they can be. A one hundred ninety nine yard game

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<v Speaker 1>from Derrick Henry and eighty seven yard run from the start,

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<v Speaker 1>a defense that was just swarming Josh Allen. The Bills

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<v Speaker 1>came into this game averaging thirty seven points a game.

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<v Speaker 1>They were held at ten, and their defense was all

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<v Speaker 1>over those receivers and in such a way where you're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>Kyle Hamilton might be one of the best defensive players

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<v Speaker 1>in football. Oh ro Qwan Smith's one of the best

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<v Speaker 1>linebackers of football. Oh Nate Wiggins is a rookie that

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<v Speaker 1>they expect a lot out of it, and he played well.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's what I'm telling about this. It takes some time.

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<v Speaker 1>They lost three offensive linemen this offseason that were very

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<v Speaker 1>key parts to their offense last year. They have three

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<v Speaker 1>guys replacing them. Takes some time. They lost their defensive coordinator,

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<v Speaker 1>Mike McDonald, They lost Geno Stone, they lost Patrick Queen.

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<v Speaker 1>Those were leaders on the team. It takes some time.

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<v Speaker 1>October this is where we start to see these guys

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<v Speaker 1>who's going to be coming through. I look at the

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<v Speaker 1>Lions offense weird first few weeks. Weird in that they

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<v Speaker 1>were winning games, but that went against the Rams.

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<v Speaker 2>The offense was like all right.

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<v Speaker 1>We just had to run the ball with David Montgomery

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<v Speaker 1>down the stretch, and we'll just lean on that. That's

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<v Speaker 1>not the Ben Johnson offense. It's usually so innovative and different.

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<v Speaker 1>Week two, bad loss, Week three they squeeze by Arizona

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<v Speaker 1>and the offenses. And then week four, October's here. We

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<v Speaker 1>know that's the offense. But we saw on Week four

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<v Speaker 1>against the Seahawks that's the offense. October is where we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna find out a lot about that teams. And I

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<v Speaker 1>look at the New York Jets and they might be

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<v Speaker 1>the most paramount on the list. Let's see, this is it.

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<v Speaker 1>We knew things were going to go through some rough

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<v Speaker 1>times at some point. Well you know, I picked them

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<v Speaker 1>to be the number one seed in the AFC. I

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<v Speaker 1>have Aaron Rodgers is my MVP. After that Patriots game

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<v Speaker 1>week three, I felt pretty good. I was puffing my

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<v Speaker 1>chest out. After Week four, it's right back down to

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<v Speaker 1>the to the doldrums. And if you look at what

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<v Speaker 1>they have up ahead, it's the Vikings. This Sunday in

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<v Speaker 1>a Week four game in London, they're flying over there,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's more than just you know, can we get

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<v Speaker 1>the win? Fine? You beat Sam Darnold. Great, you find

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<v Speaker 1>a way you're three and two cool that keeps the press,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, at Bay for a little bit. But already

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<v Speaker 1>Robert Salo has asked about the cadence, and he's talking

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<v Speaker 1>about cadence and he's talking about, you know, Aaron Rodgers

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<v Speaker 1>trying to draw guys off sides and false start out

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<v Speaker 1>of your typical comfort zone as a defensive head coach.

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<v Speaker 1>Is he allowed to talk about it? Sure, he's the

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<v Speaker 1>head coach. Then they go to Rogers and Rogers immediately

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, how about we just hold guys accountable. We've

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<v Speaker 1>had one false start the whole year. That's what I've

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<v Speaker 1>been doing doing for twenty years. Then they go back

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<v Speaker 1>to sala On on Monday. He's got comments on it

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<v Speaker 1>where he kind of backtracks a little bit. Look, this

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<v Speaker 1>is the stuff, this is the stuff. Stay stay, stay

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<v Speaker 1>in your pocket, stay in your lane. Do not start

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<v Speaker 1>speaking out of school, do not spart speaking out, don't

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<v Speaker 1>try to say things that you don't necessarily feel comfortable with.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the stuff. Where Rogers is a twenty year veteran,

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<v Speaker 1>four time MVP. Let him handle the cadence. Let him

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<v Speaker 1>do what it is now what I've been trying to

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<v Speaker 1>draw guys off sides in the red zone. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if that's necessary. There's a far greater danger to

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<v Speaker 1>having a false start and knocking yourself back than it

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<v Speaker 1>is getting an extra a couple of yards in the

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<v Speaker 1>red zone when you're already within the ten. That said,

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<v Speaker 1>Garrett Wilson comes out. He had some comments when he

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<v Speaker 1>was talking to the media in the big context, is

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<v Speaker 1>not as bad as what was clipped out. All this

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<v Speaker 1>stuff matters. Now you go to London, how do you

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<v Speaker 1>stay together? Because the New York media is not the

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<v Speaker 1>Jacksonville media, The New York media is not the Minnesota media.

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<v Speaker 1>The New York media is not necessarily the Arizona media.

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<v Speaker 1>This is one where if they see any blood, or

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<v Speaker 1>they see a scrape, if they see even a window,

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<v Speaker 1>they'll pounce. And how do you stay together with that?

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<v Speaker 1>How do you stay together that and not start responding

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<v Speaker 1>to that and looking at each other and saying, wait,

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<v Speaker 1>well you said what, why'd you say that? Why wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>you say that? Can't do it, can't do it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's too soon.

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<v Speaker 1>October key month, really key month. If the Jets start

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<v Speaker 1>losing games, This could be real bad. They need to

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<v Speaker 1>find a way to get a couple of these wins.

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<v Speaker 1>Coming up, we have an awesome guest today and it's

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<v Speaker 1>a perfect time to have this guest. This guest just

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it's the exclusive breaking news. This

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<v Speaker 1>guest just got back from Washington, DC because he sat

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<v Speaker 1>down with a guy who he's being compared to, and

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<v Speaker 1>that guy's being compared to him. We're gonna have Michael

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<v Speaker 1>Vick on and he just got done with a sit

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<v Speaker 1>down with Jaden Daniels in Washington, which he did on

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<v Speaker 1>Tuesday afternoon. We're gonna talk to Mike about Jaden. We're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna talk to Mike about two. We're gonna talk to

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<v Speaker 1>Mike about his new film that he produced on Amazon

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<v Speaker 1>called The Evolution of the Black Quarterback. Michael Vick is

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<v Speaker 1>going to join us October, he said, when it matters guys,

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<v Speaker 1>right after this, I'm very excited for our guests this week.

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<v Speaker 1>With no further ado, one of the NFL and cultural

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<v Speaker 1>icons of his generation and a colleague of mine on

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<v Speaker 1>Fox NFL kickoff every single Sunday Box eleven am Eastern.

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<v Speaker 1>We've become very good friends over the years. And it

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<v Speaker 1>was the first time having you on the podcast, mister

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Vick.

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<v Speaker 2>Michael, Hello, Well, so Peter, I can wait to come

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<v Speaker 2>on the pod man.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been waiting out get on the pod. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to start in Washington, d C. And I want to

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<v Speaker 1>start with current events because anytime there's a young athletic

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<v Speaker 1>African American quarterback, they immediately are compared to Michael Vick.

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<v Speaker 1>And I always say, time out, time out, that Michael

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<v Speaker 1>Vick was was one of one when he came into

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<v Speaker 1>this league. And there are very few guys who could

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<v Speaker 1>run and pass like Michael Vick. Jaden Daniels might be

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<v Speaker 1>that guy. When you watched Jaden Daniels in college, what

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<v Speaker 1>was your takeaway?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's funny because as soon as you start talking

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<v Speaker 3>about Jay and I start thinking about his days at

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<v Speaker 3>Arizona State and his time with herm Edwards, and I

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<v Speaker 3>think he spent three years there. And so you know,

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<v Speaker 3>we come out to California. You know, we catch the

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<v Speaker 3>late game. So I was always catching the Earth, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>always catching Arizona UCLA and so I was watching this kid.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, you know, I'm looking at the statue like

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<v Speaker 3>he got a lot of potential. You know, I knew

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<v Speaker 3>he was young, but I was like, I got to

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<v Speaker 3>watch and see how he progressed. And fast forward, he

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<v Speaker 3>ended up going to LSU. I'm looking at the quarterback

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<v Speaker 3>at LSU, like you get two years ago, and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>this kid looked familiar transfer reporter all this. I found

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<v Speaker 3>out that he transferred in and then his first year

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<v Speaker 3>at LSU it.

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<v Speaker 2>Was kind of like an up and down year, and

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<v Speaker 2>I knew he had another year left.

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<v Speaker 3>And nowadays, you never know how many years kids got,

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<v Speaker 3>Like in college, you know, some guys be six years

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<v Speaker 3>guys and five years and that wasn't the case back

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<v Speaker 3>and I date, so, you know, I see him at

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<v Speaker 3>LSU and I'm like, oh, the first year, I knew

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<v Speaker 3>he needed some work.

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<v Speaker 2>Last year, I was like, something must have clipped and

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<v Speaker 2>he ended.

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<v Speaker 3>Up winning the hazard And you know this, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>a long story short that you know, now we get

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<v Speaker 3>Jane Dames in.

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<v Speaker 2>The National Football League. So through four games.

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<v Speaker 3>Pete, I mean, he's just getting better and better and

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<v Speaker 3>better each and every week.

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<v Speaker 1>The crazy part is the completion percentage. He cleared ninety

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<v Speaker 1>percent of his passes two weeks ago eighty two percent

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<v Speaker 1>of his passes this week. A lot of that is,

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<v Speaker 1>of course the offense, but a lot of that is

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<v Speaker 1>on him as just a pure passer. That that has

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<v Speaker 1>blown me away as someone who was you know, thrown

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<v Speaker 1>into the NFL. Is the fact that he's so accurate?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that blowing you away?

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<v Speaker 3>Also, Yeah, it's blowing me away because I watched him

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<v Speaker 3>in college and so, like I said, the first year.

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<v Speaker 2>I just knew he needed a little work and needed

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<v Speaker 2>time to get better.

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<v Speaker 3>And then the next year he was making more plays

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<v Speaker 3>in the pocket and he was more accomplishing more in

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<v Speaker 3>the passing game. As far as understanding the concepts, I

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<v Speaker 3>think getting to the right places with the ball, and

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what type of offense they was running with.

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<v Speaker 2>It was enough to win.

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<v Speaker 3>That hasn't Then fast forward and now he links up

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<v Speaker 3>with Cliff Kingsbury, your guy who you always praise and

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<v Speaker 3>said that you know, he, you know, was one of

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<v Speaker 3>the best in the business. And he's proven that, you

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<v Speaker 3>know what I'm say. He's proven that with Kyler, he's

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<v Speaker 3>proven that with jayalen Jada, and for him to come

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<v Speaker 3>out smoking and to be as efficient as he is,

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<v Speaker 3>that's that's the coach understanding the player and vice versas.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, so we work at Fox every weekend and

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<v Speaker 1>you get thirty two teams. No one, I mean, we

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<v Speaker 1>thought the Commanders could have a nice little bomum. No

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<v Speaker 1>one expected them to the story of the first month

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<v Speaker 1>of the season. You get a call from our producer saying, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the story of the twenty twenty four campaign.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the Jaden Daniels here, Michael Vicky want you

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<v Speaker 1>to sit down with Jaden Daniels. That's gonna air on Fox.

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<v Speaker 1>You get the call where a few hours removed, you

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<v Speaker 1>spent yesterday in d C. Without giving away the entire interview,

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<v Speaker 1>take us through your day Tuesday, spending it with Jayden Daniels.

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<v Speaker 1>I assume the first time you met him.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it was really cool to be back home for one.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, anytime I fly back into pertain you to

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<v Speaker 3>always bring back memories too. I always wanted to play

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<v Speaker 3>for Washington, so you know, being a guy who grew

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<v Speaker 3>up for my grandmother grew.

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<v Speaker 2>Up a Washington fan. I watched them a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>Didn't like him as a kid, but you know, I

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<v Speaker 3>wanted to finish my career in so you know, it

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<v Speaker 3>was I didn't get a chance to do that, so

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<v Speaker 3>it was a little bittersweet. But having a chance to

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<v Speaker 3>actually go and see any any team's facility, I'm always

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<v Speaker 3>intrigued by that.

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<v Speaker 2>When I got there, you know, just had to soak

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<v Speaker 2>it all in, look around, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know, complex is really it was nice to doing a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of renovations and and uh, we're trying to you know,

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<v Speaker 3>make it, you know, a little more efficient than what

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<v Speaker 3>has been over the years. And so when I first

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<v Speaker 3>walk in and I see phrase move and Uh saying

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<v Speaker 3>Tana Monks.

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<v Speaker 1>I think working, I think working for the team. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they're working in the mediate department.

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<v Speaker 3>They got their own podcasts, and they you know, just

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<v Speaker 3>around just around the facility, just hanging out, just being being,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, legends, the legends that they are. Then I

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<v Speaker 3>see Doug Wis, Then I see Cliff, then I see

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<v Speaker 3>Dan Quinn. You know, they all coming, you know, introduce

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<v Speaker 3>themselves and they're saying hi. And then then I ultimately

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<v Speaker 3>I get the team and uh had a chance to

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<v Speaker 3>just hang out with him for a second before we

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<v Speaker 3>did an interview. They were just talking about, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the game plan for for this week. You know how

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<v Speaker 3>he's seeing a couple of you know, potential touchdowns in it.

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<v Speaker 3>So he's already off to the right off to you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the right start for this week. So sitting down and

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<v Speaker 3>talking to him, man, it was everything I thought it

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<v Speaker 3>would be. He was, you know, various, sightful, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>vibe Prince Smith and just very confident.

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<v Speaker 2>Man.

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<v Speaker 3>The one thing I can say Peter is that he

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<v Speaker 3>really believes in himself. He believes and what he can.

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<v Speaker 2>Do the past first, mentality run second.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm pretty sure that the guys around him, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>as far as the receivers appreciate that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think DJ Moore and Keenan Allen and Realm

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<v Speaker 1>Dunes they are lining up for the Chicago Bears and

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<v Speaker 1>Kayleb Williams. When you get to Washington, as Jayden Daniels,

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<v Speaker 1>you're looking around. Mclaurin's great, but it's not guys who

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<v Speaker 1>are going to the Hall of Fame or winning All

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<v Speaker 1>pros or anything. A lot of that's on his shoulders,

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<v Speaker 1>and yet it doesn't seem to affect him. These guys,

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<v Speaker 1>he's making them better, he's elevating them. You get the

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<v Speaker 1>sense that he's a leader and he's bringing the best

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<v Speaker 1>ot of all these other guys.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's when you know the quarterback gets it and

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<v Speaker 3>understands it. And then I go back to my first

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<v Speaker 3>couple of years in Atlanta, man, when I had Sean

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<v Speaker 3>Jefferson and I had Brian Finneran and Algie Trump. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>these wasn't superstar receivers. Or Sean was in his trunk

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<v Speaker 3>season and you know Brin was, you know, six '

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<v Speaker 3>five and ran a four four six inspector Brian Finnering,

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<v Speaker 3>great player, he know, he one of my favorites all time.

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<v Speaker 3>He know that, so he'll know. But you know, it

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<v Speaker 3>was all about, you know, the ball distribution. It was

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<v Speaker 3>all about playing together, believing in one another. Most important,

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<v Speaker 3>being on the same page. You know, you can accomplish

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<v Speaker 3>a lot, you know, just by having an understanding of

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<v Speaker 3>what you want to get accomplished, playing and play out.

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<v Speaker 3>But everybody's got to be on the same pages. So

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<v Speaker 3>that those guys they get together, they you know, they

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<v Speaker 3>they have their own little meetings, uh privately to make

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<v Speaker 3>sure that they all on the same page and to

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<v Speaker 3>make sure that you know, when the ball is snapped,

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<v Speaker 3>everybody know what they're going and they can get the

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<v Speaker 3>job done.

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<v Speaker 1>When when these young quarterbacks come in, I said this

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<v Speaker 1>started African Americans wor there could be an a young

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback when they come in, we get four or five

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<v Speaker 1>every year. It's fine. In the last decade or so,

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<v Speaker 1>you've been doing the media stuff you've been out of football.

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<v Speaker 1>Who's been the young quarterback that has proactively reached out

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<v Speaker 1>to you or has wanted to create a relationship or

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<v Speaker 1>has shown you that respect where the you know, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you've done this, You've been there, and I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>look to you for some guidance, but also kind of

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<v Speaker 1>throw your flowers because we grew up you were the guy.

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<v Speaker 2>And they all reach out when they need to. You

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<v Speaker 2>know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 3>They all reach out, you know, whether whether it's Kylo,

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<v Speaker 3>whether there's CJ. You know those they all reach out.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I'm saying. They all reach out for

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<v Speaker 3>advice if they needed. Most of the time, they have

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<v Speaker 3>people in the corner man who really appreciate you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, the the try hard, They appreciate them. You

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<v Speaker 3>know what I'm saying, want to you know, be the

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<v Speaker 3>best that they can be. And you know, my door

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<v Speaker 3>is always open. You know when I when I meet

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<v Speaker 3>those guys as that I passed my number along to them.

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<v Speaker 3>I passed it to him for a reason. He texts

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<v Speaker 3>me call me when that way they need And for

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<v Speaker 3>the most part, man, they're having one conversation with him, like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>I can instant tell he's gonna be okay, he's gonna

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<v Speaker 3>be good.

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<v Speaker 2>He might need some work, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 3>They all just so open and they all want the knowledge,

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<v Speaker 3>and they also appreciative that we all try to reach

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<v Speaker 3>out to him and make him better.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you give your number to Jade and Daniels?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I gave my number to Jay and the quarterback

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<v Speaker 3>I got to talk to the most lately over the

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<v Speaker 3>last couple of weeks, two or three times. But our

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<v Speaker 3>long conversations just trying to get on the same page.

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<v Speaker 3>And most of the time we had these conversations, it

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<v Speaker 3>might be a little frustration, but Shador, Shador saying, go on,

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<v Speaker 3>there's some good conversations. Shador coming into the season and

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<v Speaker 3>she doors are thinking, he's very smart, you know, a

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<v Speaker 3>very unique way of thinking that and he understands the.

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<v Speaker 2>Quarterback position.

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<v Speaker 3>So so confident in hisself that you know, he might

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<v Speaker 3>get put hisself in the he might overthink things, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>for the bet, and so you know, there's more conversations

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<v Speaker 3>about you know, trusting himself, trusting his coach, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>playing within the system.

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<v Speaker 2>And he's looking really good right now. Man. I text him,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, last week because I try not to be

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<v Speaker 2>on the line and trying to you know, hit them.

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<v Speaker 3>When I see the product, when I see the progress,

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<v Speaker 3>I know why they have the problem. It's not because

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<v Speaker 3>of me. It's because you know, they listening to the

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<v Speaker 3>people around. They might have took maybe one or two

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<v Speaker 3>tibbits and the things. And I said, but you know,

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<v Speaker 3>when I got to when I have to talk to

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<v Speaker 3>him and tell him what's really happening, I do, and

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<v Speaker 3>hopefully should door appreciate that.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, he's playing some good football right there. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>We had Daniel Jeremiah, who's the NFL Networks draft guy

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<v Speaker 1>on last week. He said, I know it's early and season,

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<v Speaker 1>give us a taste. Who who the guys. And he's like,

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<v Speaker 1>Travis Hunter and Shador might both go top picks, Like

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<v Speaker 1>that's how good both of those are.

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<v Speaker 2>They might go back to back.

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<v Speaker 1>They might go one too, dude, they might they might

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<v Speaker 1>they won't playing together.

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<v Speaker 3>I was about to say that they won't be on

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<v Speaker 3>the team. But at least, you know, those guys are

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<v Speaker 3>enjoying college football right now. It look like they have fun.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a moment where it seemed a little stressful

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<v Speaker 3>for the Colorado teams as a whole. But man, when

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<v Speaker 3>you got smart people in the building and people get it,

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<v Speaker 3>I understand, you usually get it, right, do you.

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<v Speaker 1>I know Warren sapp is now with dionn and I

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<v Speaker 1>know you've done like the Spring League, and you've done

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<v Speaker 1>some other things as far as like coaching goes in

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<v Speaker 1>a voluntary role. Do you ever think about a full

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<v Speaker 1>time coaching job? Did that ever come across your your

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<v Speaker 1>your table and something that you would think about doing?

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<v Speaker 3>You know, it's it's always it's always a thought, man,

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<v Speaker 3>because I have so many camps and be around so

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<v Speaker 3>many kids and seven or seven tournaments that i'd be doing,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know, so it's always a thought that I

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<v Speaker 3>would love to be with this kid every day to

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<v Speaker 3>help them out and watch and progress and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>help them grow, you know, through the good in the bad.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's always a thought.

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<v Speaker 3>But then then I think about, man, the opportunity that

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<v Speaker 3>we got the seats that we have.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, I like, yeah, I like what I do now too. Man.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, I've I've always been torn in between coaching.

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<v Speaker 3>Full time and you know and other you know what

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<v Speaker 3>I'm saying, other, you know, opportunities that that might come

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<v Speaker 3>my way and that I've had a couple.

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<v Speaker 2>But I just I can't. I can't. I can't do it, man,

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<v Speaker 2>I know I know what that entails. And when you

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<v Speaker 2>dive into coaching when you haven't, you got to go, man,

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<v Speaker 2>you got to.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't necessarily after playing a lot of years in

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<v Speaker 3>the league. Man, I don't want to leave my family

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<v Speaker 3>the way you know I had to when I played

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<v Speaker 3>the sacrifice. You know, you know, maybe when i'm you know,

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<v Speaker 3>years lay down the road. Man, who knows what can happened?

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 2>All right?

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<v Speaker 1>So this movie comes out last week on Amazon. It's

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<v Speaker 1>the number one movie on Amazon. I don't know all

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<v Speaker 1>the algorithms. I don't know what that even means. I

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<v Speaker 1>just know that a lot of people are watching it,

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<v Speaker 1>and your name is attached to it. And I remember, Michael,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was three years ago you and I

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<v Speaker 1>were talking about this project. And now it comes to fruition.

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<v Speaker 1>It's called the Evolution of the Black Quarterback. It hits

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<v Speaker 1>streaming and it's number one, and it's great. But there

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<v Speaker 1>was a lot of work and a lot of ups

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<v Speaker 1>and downs that went into this. Can you take us

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<v Speaker 1>into the creation of the idea and then actually seeing

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<v Speaker 1>it to the finish line, which I am not wrong? Right,

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<v Speaker 1>three years even working.

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<v Speaker 2>On this thing. Yeah, that's accurate.

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<v Speaker 3>The one thing that I've been telling everybody, And you know,

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<v Speaker 3>we discussed it last week and we you know, y'all

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<v Speaker 3>congratulated me on and I appreciate y'all so much, man

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<v Speaker 3>for acknowledging the work.

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<v Speaker 2>And we all work hard in our own right, man.

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<v Speaker 3>We you know, we worked for Foxes, you know, full time,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, saying the good GMF is is full time,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know, we got to put a lot into it.

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<v Speaker 3>But we also try to dabble into things that we

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<v Speaker 3>also think could be efficient or useful or purposeful and

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<v Speaker 3>in other ways. And you know, I learned that, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you got to you got to convince people one that things,

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<v Speaker 3>certain things make sense and too nobody's don't believe in

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<v Speaker 3>a vision like you, and you gotta work on to

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<v Speaker 3>make people believe and and and that's part of it.

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<v Speaker 3>That's that's so fair. I learned that, and so you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I wanted to gain credibility. I wanted the game and trust.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>The origin of it was people. You always come to

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<v Speaker 3>me and say, Mike, you changed the game, you revolutionized

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<v Speaker 3>the position.

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<v Speaker 2>Man.

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<v Speaker 3>It was you wouldn't see dam you wouldn't see Kyler,

0:23:49.426 --> 0:23:51.706
<v Speaker 3>you wouldn't see such such if it wasn't for you.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'd be like, well, have you ever seen Donovan

0:23:54.226 --> 0:23:58.146
<v Speaker 3>Man play? Have you ever seen Steve McNair, Chylie Wooden?

0:23:58.466 --> 0:24:02.546
<v Speaker 3>This generation that was always Noah, you no, yeah, But

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, no, man, hell let's let's let's be by

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<v Speaker 3>with history a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. My favorite player was Steve Young growing.

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<v Speaker 3>Up, and you know, I had like I had to

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<v Speaker 3>look at somebody who who played like me.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, obviously him being left handed, it really helped

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<v Speaker 2>him being a runner.

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<v Speaker 3>I was so intrigued by that. And then I had

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<v Speaker 3>cut of hand mooning different styles. I was like, man,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what, Man, I want to talk about this man,

0:24:28.946 --> 0:24:30.506
<v Speaker 3>but I'm but you know what, I'm gonna take it

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<v Speaker 3>back because I felt like the NFL has grown so

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<v Speaker 3>much over the years. Man, I feel like an I

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<v Speaker 3>institute and you know, the opportunities that we get man

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<v Speaker 3>allow us to do so much man and grow as people.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, man, every every organization entity.

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<v Speaker 3>Was like guys, man, we you know, the world will

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<v Speaker 3>be a better place because we were constantly growing.

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<v Speaker 2>So I wanted to show that part.

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<v Speaker 3>I wanted to show the greatness of the quarterbacks that

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<v Speaker 3>came before me and I couldn't take credit for it

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<v Speaker 3>was really changing the game of revolutionary.

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<v Speaker 1>I love this because it's your opportunity to say, yeah,

0:25:05.066 --> 0:25:07.826
<v Speaker 1>I know I was at that time, and when you

0:25:07.866 --> 0:25:09.906
<v Speaker 1>grew up, maybe was, and I knew I broke through

0:25:10.346 --> 0:25:13.506
<v Speaker 1>with commercials and with video games and Madden. It all

0:25:13.666 --> 0:25:17.306
<v Speaker 1>was a perfect storm. But you're like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

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<v Speaker 1>We have to we have to show respect to Charlie

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<v Speaker 1>Ward first, because Charlie Ward went into Notre Dame and

0:25:24.466 --> 0:25:27.426
<v Speaker 1>beat Notre Dame and I'm sorry he lost to Notre Dame,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was one of the best games ever.

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<v Speaker 2>Like you, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Was like, this is my this is my burden, this

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<v Speaker 1>is my responsibility to now instead of just accepting the praise.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me give back and kind of show give this

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<v Speaker 1>back to the game and give those guys their flowers.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and what I've been telling everybody, what I said

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<v Speaker 3>at the premiere, was that in twenty twenty four, Doug Williams,

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<v Speaker 3>Charlie Wood, Shaq Harris, you know, all these guys are

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<v Speaker 3>first round picks, you know what I'm saying. So that

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<v Speaker 3>shows the avenues, that shows the change in the progress.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, all these guys you just watched, they had

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<v Speaker 3>to go to Canada, had to do that. That's not

0:26:09.026 --> 0:26:11.546
<v Speaker 3>today's game, that's not today's time. We don't live in

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<v Speaker 3>that world anymore. So I was just excited to highlight

0:26:16.786 --> 0:26:19.266
<v Speaker 3>that man because I lived it. I know what the

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<v Speaker 3>league meant to meet. I know what the locker room

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<v Speaker 3>with his brotherhood means to me. And I know what

0:26:22.826 --> 0:26:25.346
<v Speaker 3>the fans mean to us when they acknowledge and they

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<v Speaker 3>see us coming together and going all out and trying

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<v Speaker 3>to entertain as best we can.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you look at in the fact that Warren

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<v Speaker 1>Moon had to go to Canada, despite breaking all those

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<v Speaker 1>records in college and being had to go to Canada

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<v Speaker 1>first and win Great Cups and have a whole career

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<v Speaker 1>in Canada, before he could even start his Houston Oilers career.

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<v Speaker 1>You look at Charlie Ward. I know he wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>be a basketball player, but the fact that he wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>a first round pick anyway in the NBA, it is

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<v Speaker 1>kind of my boggling because both of those players different styles.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, both those players were be first round picks,

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<v Speaker 1>no doubt in twenty twenty four.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, And I'm growing up boxing these guys because I'm

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<v Speaker 3>playing quarterback and I'm feeling like them, just like stuck

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<v Speaker 3>between the rock and the hotspot as a you know,

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<v Speaker 3>thirteen fourteen.

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<v Speaker 2>Year old kid.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, man, i gotta change my position because if

0:27:16.786 --> 0:27:19.306
<v Speaker 3>I continue to play quarterback, I'm not gonna be drafted.

0:27:19.386 --> 0:27:21.026
<v Speaker 3>It's gonna be a waste of years and I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 3>be sad. Man, I don't know what I'm gonna do.

0:27:22.666 --> 0:27:24.346
<v Speaker 3>What I did know that I wanted to make it

0:27:24.426 --> 0:27:27.266
<v Speaker 3>in criminology. You know, I wanted to be in the FBI,

0:27:27.626 --> 0:27:30.946
<v Speaker 3>so I had a backup plan. But you know it

0:27:30.986 --> 0:27:33.546
<v Speaker 3>was man my coaches over the years who was mentors

0:27:33.586 --> 0:27:37.946
<v Speaker 3>who pushed me to continue, you know, just play quarterback.

0:27:37.986 --> 0:27:42.866
<v Speaker 3>But I'm watching everything closely, because I wanted to know, like, look, man,

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<v Speaker 3>if I'm gonna put my all into playing quarterback, I

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<v Speaker 3>at least wanted to get drafted in like the fifth

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<v Speaker 3>or the sixth or the seventh round.

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<v Speaker 2>I just I want, I just want to shot.

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<v Speaker 3>And then and then the nineteen ninety nine draft happened

0:27:55.506 --> 0:28:00.306
<v Speaker 3>when when Andy to Donovan number two, and I was like, man,

0:28:00.906 --> 0:28:03.706
<v Speaker 3>and then you know, and then that whole draft for Kelly Smith,

0:28:06.826 --> 0:28:08.986
<v Speaker 3>Codante Cole Pep, I was like, hold on, man, I

0:28:08.986 --> 0:28:11.546
<v Speaker 3>think the league changing. Man, I think it's been a

0:28:11.546 --> 0:28:16.146
<v Speaker 3>little paradigm shift. So I was so excited so much

0:28:16.266 --> 0:28:19.146
<v Speaker 3>to me, and I always talked to Amy about that

0:28:19.186 --> 0:28:20.986
<v Speaker 3>and told him what that meant to me. And uh,

0:28:21.146 --> 0:28:22.466
<v Speaker 3>you know, now I get a chance to tell the

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<v Speaker 3>world and hopefully hopefully this project, man, people see this

0:28:26.066 --> 0:28:28.426
<v Speaker 3>and they just just bring us all closer together.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, that's what I want.

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<v Speaker 1>Who were the actual quarterbacks that you physically sat down

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<v Speaker 1>with for this project. I know there was a couple, obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>I know that a lot of people participated, But who

0:28:37.226 --> 0:28:38.826
<v Speaker 1>did you travel to go sit down with.

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<v Speaker 3>I traveled to see Dak, I traveled to see Russell,

0:28:44.186 --> 0:28:46.466
<v Speaker 3>I traveled to see Warren.

0:28:46.586 --> 0:28:51.866
<v Speaker 2>I traveled to see Doug. I traveled to see Charlie Shack.

0:28:53.666 --> 0:28:56.546
<v Speaker 2>Who else? Man? I traveled to see Colin Kaepernick.

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<v Speaker 3>Kapp was graceful, graceful enough to you know, blesseds with

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<v Speaker 3>his presence, and that was really cool.

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<v Speaker 2>Man. I know, missing on a lot of guys, man,

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I travel to see everybody.

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<v Speaker 3>I travel to see all those guys and sitting down

0:29:11.306 --> 0:29:15.346
<v Speaker 3>with him and and uh, it's it's to a point

0:29:15.426 --> 0:29:20.146
<v Speaker 3>now where the storys are so intriguing. And now I

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<v Speaker 3>got a lot of young quarterbacks called him like, man,

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<v Speaker 3>when you go do a part two? So yeah, we're

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<v Speaker 3>gonna do a part two. But it probably consists more of,

0:29:27.906 --> 0:29:29.906
<v Speaker 3>you know, the teaching of the game. I want to

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<v Speaker 3>you know, break down film with those guys, you know

0:29:32.226 --> 0:29:34.826
<v Speaker 3>what I'm saying, Probably the younger generation see how much

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<v Speaker 3>they know about the game. You know, maybe a couple

0:29:38.186 --> 0:29:41.986
<v Speaker 3>more general managers and owners getting their perspective, you know,

0:29:42.106 --> 0:29:44.706
<v Speaker 3>just on the game now and where it's going, where

0:29:44.706 --> 0:29:48.226
<v Speaker 3>it's headed. Just some cool stories, many cool moments and

0:29:48.986 --> 0:29:51.906
<v Speaker 3>in our profession that I think people are enjoy. So

0:29:52.426 --> 0:29:54.986
<v Speaker 3>maybe a part two could potentially be you know, with

0:29:55.106 --> 0:29:58.106
<v Speaker 3>Jamie Daniels and still didn't get Kyler and wanted to

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<v Speaker 3>include RG three and you know, and a lot of

0:30:00.106 --> 0:30:02.826
<v Speaker 3>them guys. You know, budgets are real. Budgets are real.

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<v Speaker 3>So I didn't control the budget. So I want to

0:30:06.106 --> 0:30:08.706
<v Speaker 3>circle back and get those guys, man, and uh, you know,

0:30:09.106 --> 0:30:12.986
<v Speaker 3>certainly get them an opportunity to to you know, to

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<v Speaker 3>pay homage.

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<v Speaker 1>I know other quarterbacks that are in the documentary. Patrick

0:30:17.026 --> 0:30:21.226
<v Speaker 1>Mahomes makes an appearance. Jalen hurts, Oh yeah, how did

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<v Speaker 1>I forget these?

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<v Speaker 2>I tried.

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<v Speaker 3>I traveled to see Patrick, travel to see cam and

0:30:27.386 --> 0:30:28.306
<v Speaker 3>travel to see Jay.

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<v Speaker 2>Man. I want I just wanted it to be a moment. Man.

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<v Speaker 3>I look forward to more of those moments because sit

0:30:34.746 --> 0:30:37.506
<v Speaker 3>down with Jaden yesterday was it brought me back and

0:30:37.546 --> 0:30:39.306
<v Speaker 3>it was just really cool. And I wish I could.

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<v Speaker 3>I wish I could sit down with every quarterback in

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<v Speaker 3>the need. I wish I could sit down with j

0:30:43.346 --> 0:30:43.986
<v Speaker 3>Justin Herbert.

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<v Speaker 1>I wish I could.

0:30:44.986 --> 0:30:47.906
<v Speaker 3>But you know what, it's all based on playing, you know,

0:30:48.026 --> 0:30:51.146
<v Speaker 3>you know, but uh, you know, I will, I will

0:30:51.266 --> 0:30:54.266
<v Speaker 3>circle the wagon to get through those guys, man, just

0:30:54.626 --> 0:30:57.706
<v Speaker 3>because now for me, it's more and so about the

0:30:57.706 --> 0:30:58.826
<v Speaker 3>football journey.

0:30:58.626 --> 0:31:01.146
<v Speaker 2>How they all became quarterbacks. So I be sort intriguing

0:31:01.226 --> 0:31:04.546
<v Speaker 2>their stories. It's really cool.

0:31:12.266 --> 0:31:16.066
<v Speaker 1>If one common bond between you and Mahomes is Andy Reid.

0:31:17.666 --> 0:31:20.386
<v Speaker 1>We see Andy Reid, big jovial, loving guy that you

0:31:20.386 --> 0:31:23.946
<v Speaker 1>know obviously is now a super Bowl champion three times over.

0:31:24.026 --> 0:31:24.546
<v Speaker 2>The whole deal.

0:31:24.626 --> 0:31:26.586
<v Speaker 1>They've won and everything's great, and he's going for this

0:31:26.666 --> 0:31:31.226
<v Speaker 1>three feet the man Andy Reid and what he's meant

0:31:31.226 --> 0:31:32.986
<v Speaker 1>to so many of you. I know when you were

0:31:33.026 --> 0:31:35.506
<v Speaker 1>in your darkest hour, Andy Reid was there. Tell tell

0:31:35.546 --> 0:31:37.626
<v Speaker 1>the listeners just what Andy Reid means to you as

0:31:37.666 --> 0:31:39.786
<v Speaker 1>a as a player but also as a human being.

0:31:40.746 --> 0:31:43.986
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Andy meant a lot to me. I start with Andy.

0:31:44.106 --> 0:31:46.906
<v Speaker 3>The how what he meant to me as a player first,

0:31:46.946 --> 0:31:50.386
<v Speaker 3>because I think it's the more profound effect to what

0:31:50.506 --> 0:31:51.586
<v Speaker 3>he meant to me as a man.

0:31:51.906 --> 0:31:54.746
<v Speaker 2>As a player. He just made me better.

0:31:54.986 --> 0:31:59.226
<v Speaker 3>He just the knowledge that I've attained before him, he

0:31:59.386 --> 0:32:03.746
<v Speaker 3>just enhanced it. I listened to everything that he ever

0:32:03.866 --> 0:32:07.746
<v Speaker 3>said in terms of football, try to and try to

0:32:07.746 --> 0:32:11.226
<v Speaker 3>do it to the best of my ability. I knew

0:32:11.986 --> 0:32:15.986
<v Speaker 3>what I had learned before him. You know, I could

0:32:15.986 --> 0:32:19.066
<v Speaker 3>only get better and I will say this. I was

0:32:19.106 --> 0:32:22.946
<v Speaker 3>always and I told Donald this, I was always jealous

0:32:22.946 --> 0:32:26.866
<v Speaker 3>of Donovan because he had Andy and he they was

0:32:26.906 --> 0:32:28.826
<v Speaker 3>going to end up the championship games. And I'm watching

0:32:28.866 --> 0:32:31.666
<v Speaker 3>the film when I was with the Falcons, and I'm like, God, leave,

0:32:31.826 --> 0:32:33.786
<v Speaker 3>they do a lot. Man, This dude know what he

0:32:33.946 --> 0:32:36.266
<v Speaker 3>doing and it was just it was just non stop

0:32:36.306 --> 0:32:38.986
<v Speaker 3>me and they got too and they just was going crazy.

0:32:38.986 --> 0:32:40.426
<v Speaker 2>And he didn't have Toyo.

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<v Speaker 3>I just knew he was a good football coach from

0:32:44.506 --> 0:32:46.706
<v Speaker 3>from the time I was young, and you know, obviously

0:32:46.746 --> 0:32:49.786
<v Speaker 3>never being able to beat him in the Grovisional Round

0:32:49.906 --> 0:32:52.786
<v Speaker 3>or the NFC Championship, and you know, it was always

0:32:52.786 --> 0:32:53.706
<v Speaker 3>fun and competitive.

0:32:54.866 --> 0:32:56.426
<v Speaker 2>But you know, once I got to me, he made

0:32:56.426 --> 0:32:57.386
<v Speaker 2>men better quarterback.

0:32:57.426 --> 0:33:00.866
<v Speaker 3>And then Andy the man was even even better because

0:33:01.146 --> 0:33:03.706
<v Speaker 3>he was the only coach. I not the only coach,

0:33:03.786 --> 0:33:06.106
<v Speaker 3>but as I'm mature, he was the coach. I used

0:33:06.106 --> 0:33:07.866
<v Speaker 3>to go sit in his office and talk. They called

0:33:07.866 --> 0:33:11.946
<v Speaker 3>me up just to have a conversation, and you know,

0:33:12.106 --> 0:33:14.946
<v Speaker 3>I put myself in his seat. If I was a coach,

0:33:14.946 --> 0:33:16.746
<v Speaker 3>I would do the same. I would call my players

0:33:16.786 --> 0:33:18.466
<v Speaker 3>to the office and have a little one on one

0:33:18.666 --> 0:33:21.506
<v Speaker 3>check in with them see what's going on, things that

0:33:21.506 --> 0:33:26.026
<v Speaker 3>that are important, and uh, you know they know a

0:33:26.026 --> 0:33:27.946
<v Speaker 3>lot about us, more than what we think they know,

0:33:28.466 --> 0:33:30.986
<v Speaker 3>especially at those times. And so it was moments where

0:33:31.026 --> 0:33:33.746
<v Speaker 3>he gave me amazing advice. You know, probably used to

0:33:33.786 --> 0:33:35.946
<v Speaker 3>correct the ninety percent of the time ten percent I

0:33:35.986 --> 0:33:38.186
<v Speaker 3>did it, probably failed in some.

0:33:38.226 --> 0:33:39.706
<v Speaker 2>Other area in life.

0:33:39.706 --> 0:33:42.626
<v Speaker 3>And you know, the moments that we probably would laugh

0:33:42.666 --> 0:33:46.106
<v Speaker 3>about now and cool stories. But I never forget man

0:33:47.626 --> 0:33:49.466
<v Speaker 3>the type of man. He is a great sense of

0:33:49.546 --> 0:33:52.706
<v Speaker 3>human he has. One time, my wife, who was he

0:33:52.866 --> 0:33:55.186
<v Speaker 3>was going through some tough times, you know, with her family,

0:33:56.226 --> 0:33:59.426
<v Speaker 3>and and uh, you know, I was just exhausted, man,

0:33:59.466 --> 0:34:01.866
<v Speaker 3>and you know, trying to try to play football and

0:34:01.946 --> 0:34:03.546
<v Speaker 3>trying to be the best person that I could be

0:34:04.626 --> 0:34:07.026
<v Speaker 3>as far as you know, the supporter.

0:34:07.306 --> 0:34:09.626
<v Speaker 2>You know, my wife is going through some difficult times

0:34:10.266 --> 0:34:13.506
<v Speaker 2>losing family lost and family member, and I remember I

0:34:13.586 --> 0:34:16.226
<v Speaker 2>just I broke down crying. I had no I had

0:34:16.226 --> 0:34:18.426
<v Speaker 2>nothing left, you know what I'm saying. I got trying

0:34:18.466 --> 0:34:20.266
<v Speaker 2>to be strong for her. I broke down crying and

0:34:20.386 --> 0:34:23.586
<v Speaker 2>laying on the couch and I'm just nobody to talk to.

0:34:23.946 --> 0:34:28.226
<v Speaker 3>You know, one of my doctor's moments because she she's

0:34:28.266 --> 0:34:29.986
<v Speaker 3>in a dark place and that's nothing I could do

0:34:30.026 --> 0:34:34.186
<v Speaker 3>to help her. And my phone bring is Andy, and Andy,

0:34:34.546 --> 0:34:35.386
<v Speaker 3>you know, I pick up.

0:34:35.466 --> 0:34:36.186
<v Speaker 2>You know, I.

0:34:36.106 --> 0:34:38.626
<v Speaker 3>Started crying even worse because now I really need somebody

0:34:38.626 --> 0:34:40.426
<v Speaker 3>to talk to. But I can't really talk. I can't

0:34:40.426 --> 0:34:41.706
<v Speaker 3>get the words out.

0:34:42.026 --> 0:34:42.266
<v Speaker 2>Peter.

0:34:42.386 --> 0:34:44.786
<v Speaker 3>By the time we got off that phone, Man, this

0:34:44.866 --> 0:34:47.906
<v Speaker 3>man had me laughing so hard. Man Like he just

0:34:49.866 --> 0:34:51.866
<v Speaker 3>I needed him so much in that moment. Man, he

0:34:52.506 --> 0:34:54.506
<v Speaker 3>and it's just the type of person he is. He

0:34:54.546 --> 0:34:57.026
<v Speaker 3>made me feel so much better about my about life

0:34:57.946 --> 0:35:00.226
<v Speaker 3>and just what I believed in. And we went through

0:35:00.226 --> 0:35:04.426
<v Speaker 3>some tough times together as well. And so and that's

0:35:04.466 --> 0:35:07.986
<v Speaker 3>the moment I never forget, man, because uh you know,

0:35:08.026 --> 0:35:10.866
<v Speaker 3>it shows this chartter it's true character. And so it

0:35:10.906 --> 0:35:13.186
<v Speaker 3>don't surprise me they having the success that they have.

0:35:13.346 --> 0:35:16.266
<v Speaker 3>You in Kansas City. I'm so happy that he got

0:35:16.306 --> 0:35:18.426
<v Speaker 3>his rings. I was just thinking of it.

0:35:18.906 --> 0:35:20.626
<v Speaker 2>Damn. I wish he could have got won in Philly.

0:35:20.866 --> 0:35:25.906
<v Speaker 1>Not I agree, even if with me, if.

0:35:25.786 --> 0:35:27.786
<v Speaker 3>It was just one you know what I'm saying, just

0:35:27.786 --> 0:35:30.026
<v Speaker 3>for the fan base, But but Philly ended up getting there,

0:35:30.066 --> 0:35:31.026
<v Speaker 3>so it was just all good.

0:35:31.266 --> 0:35:31.866
<v Speaker 2>They got it.

0:35:32.346 --> 0:35:34.306
<v Speaker 1>Uh well, rap, sure they just want to go through

0:35:34.306 --> 0:35:38.786
<v Speaker 1>some rapid fire questions about the memories of being Michael

0:35:38.866 --> 0:35:43.306
<v Speaker 1>Vick in that moment and in those times of Atlanta

0:35:43.626 --> 0:35:48.186
<v Speaker 1>early two thousands, Ludacris is coming out, Outcast is coming out,

0:35:48.666 --> 0:35:52.786
<v Speaker 1>Ussher is on the scene, It's it's Jermaine Dupriez everything,

0:35:52.866 --> 0:35:55.066
<v Speaker 1>and then there here comes this Michael Vick in the

0:35:55.106 --> 0:35:57.666
<v Speaker 1>Atlanta Falcons. And I was in college at the time.

0:35:57.666 --> 0:35:59.026
<v Speaker 1>You're a little bit older than me. I was in

0:35:59.066 --> 0:36:03.226
<v Speaker 1>Atlanta and there might have been no bigger cultural moment

0:36:03.306 --> 0:36:06.146
<v Speaker 1>than Atlanta in the early two thousands, and you were

0:36:06.146 --> 0:36:09.066
<v Speaker 1>one of those main faces when you look back at

0:36:09.066 --> 0:36:11.226
<v Speaker 1>that area. Just give me a snapshot of what it

0:36:11.266 --> 0:36:14.426
<v Speaker 1>was like being in Atlanta during the two thousand the

0:36:14.466 --> 0:36:17.466
<v Speaker 1>two thousand and five range, just when the musical scene

0:36:17.506 --> 0:36:21.026
<v Speaker 1>was exploding, but also this incredible football team in Atlanta,

0:36:21.146 --> 0:36:22.786
<v Speaker 1>and you know what was going on in the Georgia

0:36:22.826 --> 0:36:24.106
<v Speaker 1>Dome on Sundays.

0:36:26.666 --> 0:36:29.706
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Peters, it's so hard to go back to Atlanta now, man,

0:36:29.746 --> 0:36:34.866
<v Speaker 3>because I love that city so much because of not

0:36:34.986 --> 0:36:38.826
<v Speaker 3>just football, but those moments, man, when when I first

0:36:38.906 --> 0:36:43.226
<v Speaker 3>got there and meeting everybody, get introduced to Ludaprius and

0:36:43.226 --> 0:36:46.826
<v Speaker 3>getting introduced to two chains, when they getting introduced to

0:36:46.946 --> 0:36:51.786
<v Speaker 3>TI and getting introduced to man, all these these people

0:36:51.786 --> 0:36:53.826
<v Speaker 3>who mean so much to the culture, who mean so

0:36:53.986 --> 0:36:58.826
<v Speaker 3>much to entertainment and their profession. Them accepting me one,

0:36:59.466 --> 0:37:01.706
<v Speaker 3>you know, I was proud too. It added more pressient

0:37:01.826 --> 0:37:04.386
<v Speaker 3>to me having to be great, you know what I'm saying.

0:37:04.426 --> 0:37:09.466
<v Speaker 3>And so you know, those guys, you know, more so

0:37:09.546 --> 0:37:11.546
<v Speaker 3>than anybody was if I was out.

0:37:11.906 --> 0:37:13.586
<v Speaker 2>Hey, man, how things go on?

0:37:13.666 --> 0:37:16.026
<v Speaker 3>Football may may make sure you're getting your rest, man,

0:37:16.066 --> 0:37:17.186
<v Speaker 3>make sure you stay healthy.

0:37:17.226 --> 0:37:20.346
<v Speaker 2>Make sure they cared about me genuinely, you know what

0:37:20.386 --> 0:37:24.226
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying. They wanted me to. They knew. Look and

0:37:24.466 --> 0:37:28.186
<v Speaker 2>entertainment world is one thing, but man, you need to

0:37:28.226 --> 0:37:28.786
<v Speaker 2>be getting rest.

0:37:28.906 --> 0:37:31.066
<v Speaker 3>You need to be putting off of us on Sunday,

0:37:31.226 --> 0:37:34.746
<v Speaker 3>on Sundays, Mondays and Thursdays and Jesus come along, man.

0:37:34.746 --> 0:37:38.066
<v Speaker 3>And it's just the games was amazing. The games was

0:37:38.186 --> 0:37:41.346
<v Speaker 3>like like playing a football game in front of the club,

0:37:41.666 --> 0:37:43.586
<v Speaker 3>outside of the club, man, you know what I'm saying.

0:37:43.586 --> 0:37:47.906
<v Speaker 2>Like it's that, it's like it's electric, we having fun,

0:37:47.906 --> 0:37:48.586
<v Speaker 2>it's music.

0:37:49.306 --> 0:37:52.986
<v Speaker 3>And man, it was a lot of pressure too, because

0:37:53.186 --> 0:37:55.066
<v Speaker 3>I mean, when you got all your boys in there.

0:37:55.746 --> 0:37:56.826
<v Speaker 1>You can't.

0:37:57.266 --> 0:37:59.306
<v Speaker 3>You can't slack, man, You got it. You gotta be

0:37:59.346 --> 0:38:03.266
<v Speaker 3>on your A games. So just amazing moments in time, man.

0:38:03.546 --> 0:38:05.786
<v Speaker 3>And that's why I said it's hard to go back

0:38:05.786 --> 0:38:09.066
<v Speaker 3>to Atlanta, because I relived those moments.

0:38:09.466 --> 0:38:12.066
<v Speaker 2>It was so much. It's just it's tough, but I

0:38:12.106 --> 0:38:13.066
<v Speaker 2>still love to go back.

0:38:13.746 --> 0:38:16.466
<v Speaker 1>You had this great rivalry with your cousin Aaron Brooks,

0:38:16.466 --> 0:38:19.226
<v Speaker 1>who was with the Saints, and I remember I would

0:38:19.266 --> 0:38:21.386
<v Speaker 1>go to all those Falcons games. I would, you know,

0:38:21.466 --> 0:38:23.506
<v Speaker 1>pay for tickets. I'd go with all my friends from college.

0:38:23.546 --> 0:38:25.506
<v Speaker 1>We would go to like probably six or eight Falcons

0:38:25.506 --> 0:38:27.426
<v Speaker 1>home games a year when you were there. We loved

0:38:27.466 --> 0:38:30.466
<v Speaker 1>watching you. And then one time I'm sitting in the

0:38:30.466 --> 0:38:33.066
<v Speaker 1>fraternity house and I get a message on my phone

0:38:33.106 --> 0:38:36.066
<v Speaker 1>and it's a recorded message from Michael Vick and.

0:38:36.386 --> 0:38:37.026
<v Speaker 2>You probably didn't know.

0:38:37.706 --> 0:38:40.626
<v Speaker 1>It's Hey, I'm playing my cousin Aaron Brooks this weekend

0:38:40.666 --> 0:38:42.586
<v Speaker 1>and the Saints are coming to town and we need

0:38:42.666 --> 0:38:45.546
<v Speaker 1>you in the building, please please, And I was like,

0:38:46.306 --> 0:38:48.706
<v Speaker 1>this is the rivalry. And it wasn't treated the same

0:38:48.746 --> 0:38:51.946
<v Speaker 1>as Cowboys Eagles on the national scale, or even forty

0:38:51.986 --> 0:38:55.506
<v Speaker 1>nine Ers cowboys on the national scale. But my gosh,

0:38:55.546 --> 0:38:57.986
<v Speaker 1>those those Aaron Brooks Michael Vick here is probably a

0:38:57.986 --> 0:38:59.946
<v Speaker 1>little window in time, probably two three years.

0:38:59.746 --> 0:39:02.146
<v Speaker 2>Like that was real three years.

0:39:02.346 --> 0:39:05.946
<v Speaker 3>And I really didn't know what that raval meant at

0:39:05.986 --> 0:39:09.546
<v Speaker 3>the time, because you know it was enhanced because of

0:39:09.786 --> 0:39:12.226
<v Speaker 3>my cousin being on the other side and you know,

0:39:12.226 --> 0:39:15.266
<v Speaker 3>a little cousin want to be big cousin, and that

0:39:15.266 --> 0:39:18.786
<v Speaker 3>that part of it was always always came into play.

0:39:19.346 --> 0:39:21.186
<v Speaker 2>And it was just good games.

0:39:21.226 --> 0:39:26.386
<v Speaker 3>I remember some of the best crowd and the loudest,

0:39:26.586 --> 0:39:30.626
<v Speaker 3>the Georgia jhomers up was was ever you know, I

0:39:30.746 --> 0:39:33.826
<v Speaker 3>guess Mark was in those times like a Sparts decib

0:39:33.986 --> 0:39:37.746
<v Speaker 3>me to like I'm talking about rowdy, rowdy, you know.

0:39:38.066 --> 0:39:40.826
<v Speaker 2>And and so those fans they didn't like me, man,

0:39:40.946 --> 0:39:41.586
<v Speaker 2>they didn't like me.

0:39:41.706 --> 0:39:44.266
<v Speaker 3>The one time I got in trouble when I when

0:39:44.306 --> 0:39:47.066
<v Speaker 3>it wasn't no social media and I tried my biggest

0:39:47.106 --> 0:39:51.346
<v Speaker 3>mistakes and off fan was was not a Falcons fan.

0:39:51.466 --> 0:39:55.866
<v Speaker 3>It was Saturday say it was the Saints man, but

0:39:56.026 --> 0:39:58.226
<v Speaker 3>that's how rowdy was. That was the rivalry man and

0:39:58.306 --> 0:40:01.306
<v Speaker 3>they beat us. But that was post that was post Aaron.

0:40:01.546 --> 0:40:04.506
<v Speaker 3>That was the start of the Drew Brees ear and

0:40:04.946 --> 0:40:07.986
<v Speaker 3>so he I knew when Drew came man, I was like, yeah,

0:40:08.666 --> 0:40:10.666
<v Speaker 3>in trouble, you know what I'm saying.

0:40:10.706 --> 0:40:11.786
<v Speaker 2>Aaron was tough to deal with.

0:40:11.906 --> 0:40:14.026
<v Speaker 3>But Drew and Sean came in at the same time,

0:40:14.146 --> 0:40:16.826
<v Speaker 3>and it was like, Yo, nah, they can't take this

0:40:16.986 --> 0:40:18.146
<v Speaker 3>robbery from They can't.

0:40:18.786 --> 0:40:19.826
<v Speaker 2>They can't take this over.

0:40:19.946 --> 0:40:22.786
<v Speaker 3>So but man, good moments. Man, good moments is sports

0:40:22.866 --> 0:40:25.506
<v Speaker 3>and certain games. I never forget for sure.

0:40:26.306 --> 0:40:26.666
<v Speaker 2>All Right.

0:40:26.746 --> 0:40:29.826
<v Speaker 1>Two amazing commercials that are forever in my head, the

0:40:29.866 --> 0:40:32.626
<v Speaker 1>Michael Vick experience. When you're on the roller coaster. Do

0:40:32.666 --> 0:40:35.626
<v Speaker 1>you remember getting pitched that whole project and take us

0:40:35.666 --> 0:40:38.066
<v Speaker 1>through the formation of that commercial, what brand it was for,

0:40:38.786 --> 0:40:40.786
<v Speaker 1>and then when you actually filmed it and then saw

0:40:40.826 --> 0:40:42.386
<v Speaker 1>it actually come to life. It was probably the most

0:40:42.386 --> 0:40:44.346
<v Speaker 1>popular commercial of the two thousands.

0:40:45.026 --> 0:40:47.186
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was. It was a Nike commercial.

0:40:47.706 --> 0:40:49.906
<v Speaker 3>And I never forget to you. I was like, man,

0:40:51.506 --> 0:40:53.906
<v Speaker 3>I need something more urban in this, Like what this

0:40:54.146 --> 0:40:58.346
<v Speaker 3>is a commercial for kids? And hid it's like thinking

0:40:58.426 --> 0:41:01.466
<v Speaker 3>about it now, Yes, that's what you was trying to do.

0:41:01.586 --> 0:41:03.186
<v Speaker 3>You was trying to appeal to the kids and the

0:41:03.226 --> 0:41:05.826
<v Speaker 3>next generation. You're trying to give them the Michael Vick experience.

0:41:05.906 --> 0:41:08.026
<v Speaker 3>That's what it was all about, Like what are you missing?

0:41:08.746 --> 0:41:13.186
<v Speaker 3>And so like back then, I was just always in

0:41:13.306 --> 0:41:16.986
<v Speaker 3>my own head, always wanted things to be my way, and.

0:41:18.746 --> 0:41:19.066
<v Speaker 2>It goes.

0:41:19.386 --> 0:41:22.026
<v Speaker 3>It goes to show that the people around me probably

0:41:22.106 --> 0:41:25.506
<v Speaker 3>the best, because that commercials stood and test the time,

0:41:25.706 --> 0:41:30.986
<v Speaker 3>is still one of the top commercials in football to

0:41:31.106 --> 0:41:34.306
<v Speaker 3>this day, and I appreciate it more now than.

0:41:34.226 --> 0:41:34.986
<v Speaker 2>I did back then.

0:41:35.106 --> 0:41:37.706
<v Speaker 3>So shut out the Nike for making that, you know,

0:41:38.426 --> 0:41:43.146
<v Speaker 3>one of the top commercials in that era and believing

0:41:43.226 --> 0:41:45.306
<v Speaker 3>in me, you know what I'm saying that to put

0:41:45.346 --> 0:41:45.866
<v Speaker 3>it out there.

0:41:46.186 --> 0:41:49.826
<v Speaker 2>So I didn't like it. But man, when you were.

0:41:49.746 --> 0:41:52.626
<v Speaker 1>Filming that, they take it to like Stone Mountain Local

0:41:52.706 --> 0:41:55.066
<v Speaker 1>six Flags, and you're like, you know, actually getting in

0:41:55.226 --> 0:41:58.026
<v Speaker 1>Like what was the process of like actually filming that commercial.

0:41:58.186 --> 0:42:00.226
<v Speaker 3>So I think we filmed that out in the Word

0:42:01.706 --> 0:42:05.306
<v Speaker 3>now by Nike's campus, Yeah, on the Nike campus, And

0:42:05.746 --> 0:42:08.786
<v Speaker 3>I remember Phil Knight was there, Bill Keller was there,

0:42:09.426 --> 0:42:11.666
<v Speaker 3>And for some reason when I used to see Phil man,

0:42:11.666 --> 0:42:15.346
<v Speaker 3>I used to feel like I just said, but I

0:42:15.466 --> 0:42:20.746
<v Speaker 3>created Nike, you know, perk U blow yeah, man, because

0:42:21.226 --> 0:42:23.266
<v Speaker 3>I always wanted to make a proud you always wanted

0:42:23.306 --> 0:42:25.586
<v Speaker 3>to I appreciate it the Nike so much, and then

0:42:25.626 --> 0:42:28.706
<v Speaker 3>I'm giving me a whole line of the shoes like

0:42:28.866 --> 0:42:31.986
<v Speaker 3>the vict you know, the whole vic line was. You know,

0:42:32.066 --> 0:42:34.386
<v Speaker 3>we was able to create create four shoes, different shoes

0:42:34.426 --> 0:42:36.746
<v Speaker 3>and four different styles of pleats and that it was

0:42:36.786 --> 0:42:38.946
<v Speaker 3>on the fifth one and it was like, man, they believe,

0:42:39.026 --> 0:42:41.506
<v Speaker 3>they truly believed in me, so that the respect was

0:42:41.546 --> 0:42:42.306
<v Speaker 3>always there.

0:42:42.826 --> 0:42:44.746
<v Speaker 1>When you saw I'm as sending you watch that Matt

0:42:44.826 --> 0:42:48.226
<v Speaker 1>Damon ben Affleck movie air, like did you see yourself

0:42:48.226 --> 0:42:50.826
<v Speaker 1>in them Michael Jordan's shoes where he was kind of

0:42:50.866 --> 0:42:52.466
<v Speaker 1>the same deal where they're going to build a line

0:42:52.506 --> 0:42:52.866
<v Speaker 1>around me.

0:42:53.666 --> 0:42:53.906
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:42:54.066 --> 0:42:56.786
<v Speaker 3>So when I first started my shoe line, it was like, Okay,

0:42:56.866 --> 0:42:59.346
<v Speaker 3>brings some shoes in and you want to pattern your

0:42:59.386 --> 0:43:00.506
<v Speaker 3>shoe after and I.

0:43:00.546 --> 0:43:04.026
<v Speaker 2>Pulled out like six pairs of Jordan's. They was like, oh, yeah,

0:43:04.346 --> 0:43:06.946
<v Speaker 2>this is what you want to do. So, you know,

0:43:06.986 --> 0:43:08.906
<v Speaker 2>Shout out of the East got more was my shoe

0:43:08.946 --> 0:43:09.666
<v Speaker 2>priod at the time.

0:43:09.746 --> 0:43:13.466
<v Speaker 3>He was over Nike, and he uh like he took

0:43:13.506 --> 0:43:16.226
<v Speaker 3>those shoes, man, and he he took six shoes and

0:43:16.306 --> 0:43:18.786
<v Speaker 3>he drew like three hundred pitches like he would come

0:43:18.866 --> 0:43:21.266
<v Speaker 3>up with like three hundred sketches and we'll break him

0:43:21.306 --> 0:43:25.226
<v Speaker 3>down three hundred, two hundred, two hundred to one hundred hundreds.

0:43:25.586 --> 0:43:29.906
<v Speaker 3>The shoe process and making a shoe was so fun, man,

0:43:30.106 --> 0:43:33.106
<v Speaker 3>so intriguing. P I I fell in love with that

0:43:33.266 --> 0:43:35.906
<v Speaker 3>line more than anything that was that I was doing.

0:43:35.986 --> 0:43:38.106
<v Speaker 3>I think that was one of my biggest downfalls because

0:43:39.026 --> 0:43:40.186
<v Speaker 3>you know, did.

0:43:40.066 --> 0:43:41.626
<v Speaker 1>You get upset with the shoe culture, like that's what

0:43:41.706 --> 0:43:41.906
<v Speaker 1>you were?

0:43:42.546 --> 0:43:44.946
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I wassessed with the shoe culture and obsessed with

0:43:45.106 --> 0:43:48.706
<v Speaker 3>just having my own sicknasure line. It's like what athlete

0:43:48.826 --> 0:43:50.266
<v Speaker 3>has its own shoe lining?

0:43:50.546 --> 0:43:50.706
<v Speaker 2>You know.

0:43:50.906 --> 0:43:56.586
<v Speaker 3>So even then, as privileged as I was, man like,

0:43:57.146 --> 0:44:01.306
<v Speaker 3>I felt like I should have, you know, appreciated that

0:44:01.386 --> 0:44:03.666
<v Speaker 3>a little bit more and that you know, sometimes you

0:44:03.786 --> 0:44:06.106
<v Speaker 3>have things that come to you and things that you

0:44:06.186 --> 0:44:10.306
<v Speaker 3>are given opportunities where you got to say, I got to,

0:44:10.546 --> 0:44:13.506
<v Speaker 3>you know, one, be on my best behavior too. I

0:44:13.586 --> 0:44:16.186
<v Speaker 3>got to think myself through a lot of situations because

0:44:16.746 --> 0:44:19.106
<v Speaker 3>you know, I'm wonder this, this puts.

0:44:18.906 --> 0:44:22.186
<v Speaker 2>Me up under the public eye and it's a pedestal.

0:44:22.346 --> 0:44:25.306
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and there's a lot of responsibility that comes along

0:44:25.386 --> 0:44:30.986
<v Speaker 3>with having all of this, you know, and so you know,

0:44:31.306 --> 0:44:34.426
<v Speaker 3>it's hindsight now, but you know, my attitude of my

0:44:34.666 --> 0:44:37.066
<v Speaker 3>thinking was at twenty four was the way it was

0:44:37.146 --> 0:44:39.946
<v Speaker 3>at thirty four and out of the church and things

0:44:39.986 --> 0:44:43.186
<v Speaker 3>a lot more. And so you know, it's something I

0:44:43.226 --> 0:44:48.186
<v Speaker 3>can preach to the Shadors and the James and the

0:44:48.306 --> 0:44:50.506
<v Speaker 3>guys who are coming into the league who are going

0:44:50.546 --> 0:44:54.746
<v Speaker 3>to obtain all these things at some point. Protected man,

0:44:55.146 --> 0:44:57.906
<v Speaker 3>God blessed you, and you want to be able to

0:44:57.986 --> 0:45:01.146
<v Speaker 3>talk to the next generation ten fifteen years from now

0:45:01.746 --> 0:45:02.346
<v Speaker 3>and let them.

0:45:02.266 --> 0:45:06.026
<v Speaker 1>Know how to hold on to my last question, I'll

0:45:06.066 --> 0:45:08.746
<v Speaker 1>never forge get Monday Night football. Chip Kelly's now the

0:45:08.826 --> 0:45:12.026
<v Speaker 1>new coach of the Eagles, and Robert Griffin is the

0:45:12.106 --> 0:45:14.546
<v Speaker 1>hottest name in sports. He comes out, he is carrying

0:45:14.586 --> 0:45:17.826
<v Speaker 1>a flag running out of the thing, and you guys

0:45:17.906 --> 0:45:21.586
<v Speaker 1>came in there and just absolutely destroyed them. You Sean Jackson,

0:45:21.946 --> 0:45:24.346
<v Speaker 1>Chip had the game plan laid out, take us through

0:45:24.386 --> 0:45:29.146
<v Speaker 1>that week one Monday night game Eagles versus Redskins, and.

0:45:29.386 --> 0:45:32.386
<v Speaker 2>Peter you always bring out the coolest moments. Many Let

0:45:32.426 --> 0:45:36.586
<v Speaker 2>me let me look. I g three, my boy. I'm

0:45:36.626 --> 0:45:38.786
<v Speaker 2>on the doorst part in a couple in a couple

0:45:38.786 --> 0:45:41.666
<v Speaker 2>of weeks and Igie three, he the home.

0:45:42.386 --> 0:45:45.266
<v Speaker 3>Well, I gotta tell you this story too, and me

0:45:45.426 --> 0:45:47.986
<v Speaker 3>and me and Agi talked about this because I took

0:45:48.026 --> 0:45:48.746
<v Speaker 3>it the wrong way.

0:45:48.946 --> 0:45:53.706
<v Speaker 2>So four before that, I was I finished the season,

0:45:53.746 --> 0:45:54.426
<v Speaker 2>I was hurt on.

0:45:56.186 --> 0:45:59.106
<v Speaker 3>And just a long story long, I'm on injury reserve,

0:46:00.906 --> 0:46:03.746
<v Speaker 3>and the Ramskins came in and would watch Commanders.

0:46:03.786 --> 0:46:05.826
<v Speaker 2>They came in and beat us. They knocked us all

0:46:06.546 --> 0:46:07.106
<v Speaker 2>beat as good.

0:46:07.786 --> 0:46:09.986
<v Speaker 3>After the game, as he came to me and he

0:46:10.146 --> 0:46:13.026
<v Speaker 3>was like, man, I wish he was out there today.

0:46:14.506 --> 0:46:16.106
<v Speaker 2>And I was like, yeah, man, me too.

0:46:16.226 --> 0:46:18.306
<v Speaker 3>But I kind of took it as you know, as

0:46:18.346 --> 0:46:22.026
<v Speaker 3>a competitor, you always and also he respects I look

0:46:22.066 --> 0:46:24.826
<v Speaker 3>at it, yeah, some type. But he was like, I

0:46:24.906 --> 0:46:27.546
<v Speaker 3>wish he was out there. And later on that night,

0:46:27.666 --> 0:46:30.666
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, what do you mean about that? He wished

0:46:30.706 --> 0:46:32.386
<v Speaker 3>I was out there? I mean he wanted to go

0:46:32.466 --> 0:46:35.426
<v Speaker 3>toe to toe with me, and you know, quarterback and quarterback.

0:46:35.506 --> 0:46:38.626
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, you know what next year, you know, I

0:46:38.786 --> 0:46:44.106
<v Speaker 3>have my shot. We get they scheduled Washington first. I'm like, okay,

0:46:44.666 --> 0:46:46.386
<v Speaker 3>Ge said he wanted you know, he wish I was

0:46:46.426 --> 0:46:49.466
<v Speaker 3>out there. He went and so like in the Jordan moment,

0:46:49.506 --> 0:46:51.426
<v Speaker 3>I psyched myself up in my head.

0:46:51.346 --> 0:46:53.226
<v Speaker 2>And this what he wanted.

0:46:53.386 --> 0:46:56.026
<v Speaker 3>He wanted to be a twelve year veteran. I'm a

0:46:56.066 --> 0:46:58.026
<v Speaker 3>little older. He young, and he doing this thing and

0:46:58.066 --> 0:47:01.226
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, okay, and I just show up and show out.

0:47:01.986 --> 0:47:05.626
<v Speaker 3>So you know, Chip, we we was running that new offense.

0:47:06.066 --> 0:47:10.706
<v Speaker 3>It was fast paced, it was it was a great system.

0:47:11.106 --> 0:47:11.466
<v Speaker 2>I think.

0:47:12.266 --> 0:47:12.386
<v Speaker 1>Uh.

0:47:13.066 --> 0:47:15.666
<v Speaker 3>I remember Lendon Fletcher coming to me before the game

0:47:15.746 --> 0:47:19.426
<v Speaker 3>and saying, man, it's unfortunate that we got to play

0:47:19.506 --> 0:47:22.546
<v Speaker 3>our first and we got to run into this offense first.

0:47:22.626 --> 0:47:23.986
<v Speaker 2>Right then and there. I knew he was gonna be

0:47:24.346 --> 0:47:24.946
<v Speaker 2>It was done right.

0:47:25.666 --> 0:47:28.226
<v Speaker 1>When the best linebackers like it's unfortunate, we don't feel

0:47:28.266 --> 0:47:29.386
<v Speaker 1>it's actually prepared for this.

0:47:30.986 --> 0:47:33.706
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, he's scared. He got feel already. You know.

0:47:33.826 --> 0:47:35.946
<v Speaker 3>We just got to go fast and then came off

0:47:35.986 --> 0:47:38.346
<v Speaker 3>the flag and stuck it in the ground boom. I said,

0:47:38.506 --> 0:47:40.986
<v Speaker 3>oh man, it's gonna be a long night. We gotta

0:47:41.026 --> 0:47:44.866
<v Speaker 3>start fast. And I just never forget the play calling

0:47:44.986 --> 0:47:47.466
<v Speaker 3>was amazing. I thought Chip was amazing. I knew I

0:47:47.586 --> 0:47:50.706
<v Speaker 3>was getting old because I had a scene in that

0:47:50.866 --> 0:47:52.386
<v Speaker 3>game where I broke one and I had to see

0:47:52.426 --> 0:47:55.266
<v Speaker 3>him too wide open and they caught me, you.

0:47:55.306 --> 0:48:01.626
<v Speaker 2>Know, time catching you a movement, not the same. It

0:48:01.746 --> 0:48:02.906
<v Speaker 2>was a very competitive game.

0:48:03.146 --> 0:48:05.346
<v Speaker 3>I had a chance to speak to after the game

0:48:05.426 --> 0:48:07.706
<v Speaker 3>and we you know, we we had it, you know,

0:48:07.786 --> 0:48:10.626
<v Speaker 3>a nice little moment. And then I mentioned it to

0:48:10.706 --> 0:48:13.026
<v Speaker 3>Ig a couple of weeks, a couple of months ago, like, Bro,

0:48:13.146 --> 0:48:14.026
<v Speaker 3>I remember you said that.

0:48:14.146 --> 0:48:15.906
<v Speaker 2>He was like, nah, Bro, I ain't mean it like that,

0:48:16.146 --> 0:48:16.786
<v Speaker 2>just that one.

0:48:16.986 --> 0:48:20.546
<v Speaker 3>Just face you as an election, you know what I'm saying, Like, oh, man,

0:48:20.586 --> 0:48:23.826
<v Speaker 3>I cite myself up to So it's good.

0:48:24.186 --> 0:48:24.546
<v Speaker 2>It's one.

0:48:24.706 --> 0:48:27.666
<v Speaker 3>When I think of that game, I think of that man.

0:48:27.746 --> 0:48:32.746
<v Speaker 3>But certainly fun to play against, you know, Washington at

0:48:32.786 --> 0:48:35.066
<v Speaker 3>the time. You know, long story, long story long. My

0:48:35.106 --> 0:48:41.466
<v Speaker 3>grandmother was a Commander's fan. I always told myself I

0:48:41.466 --> 0:48:46.866
<v Speaker 3>would never lose to Washington in my professional career because

0:48:46.906 --> 0:48:49.826
<v Speaker 3>my grandmother was a command was a Commanders fan, and

0:48:49.946 --> 0:48:52.186
<v Speaker 3>I never lost to him. Did you never lose to them?

0:48:52.546 --> 0:48:54.906
<v Speaker 3>I never lost to them. I probably lost to everybody else,

0:48:54.946 --> 0:48:57.626
<v Speaker 3>but I never lost them. So that was kind of

0:48:58.146 --> 0:49:00.306
<v Speaker 3>a cool thing, man. And you know, me and my

0:49:00.386 --> 0:49:03.186
<v Speaker 3>grandmother shared even when I got to the league, because

0:49:03.226 --> 0:49:05.346
<v Speaker 3>my dream of playing in the NFL started with her.

0:49:05.666 --> 0:49:10.586
<v Speaker 3>It started with us watching watching Washington every week because

0:49:10.666 --> 0:49:12.666
<v Speaker 3>you know, growing up in Virginia, they was on every

0:49:12.866 --> 0:49:13.346
<v Speaker 3>every week.

0:49:13.906 --> 0:49:15.826
<v Speaker 2>That's the local game. That's what you got. You got

0:49:15.946 --> 0:49:19.266
<v Speaker 2>you got the you got Washington weekend and week out.

0:49:19.306 --> 0:49:23.826
<v Speaker 2>So I grew up watching Jay Straight and all those guys, so.

0:49:24.666 --> 0:49:27.066
<v Speaker 1>Gary Clark and Ricky Sandys.

0:49:27.546 --> 0:49:27.986
<v Speaker 2>The Posse.

0:49:28.386 --> 0:49:33.026
<v Speaker 3>Uh, I mean it was too good. They was too good.

0:49:33.626 --> 0:49:35.386
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, that's my you know, my football moment. But

0:49:35.426 --> 0:49:37.666
<v Speaker 3>Tip Kelly was amazing. I really got a lot of

0:49:37.706 --> 0:49:39.626
<v Speaker 3>respect and chipping what he's done for the game of football.

0:49:39.706 --> 0:49:42.386
<v Speaker 3>How you helped me to learn learn more more offense?

0:49:43.226 --> 0:49:45.066
<v Speaker 1>Cool? All right, we're gonna wrap here. This is amazing.

0:49:45.546 --> 0:49:48.346
<v Speaker 1>The Jaden Daniels interview I assume airs this weekend on

0:49:48.426 --> 0:49:49.426
<v Speaker 1>Fox NFL Sunday.

0:49:50.066 --> 0:49:52.986
<v Speaker 3>Yep, you, sir, Joe Santos. I want to say who

0:49:53.866 --> 0:49:56.506
<v Speaker 3>was Joe was on the ground. Joe was amazing, man.

0:49:56.546 --> 0:49:59.026
<v Speaker 3>I'll tell you what the prep me and Joel did, Like,

0:49:59.186 --> 0:50:02.026
<v Speaker 3>Joe prepped me to a point where I could just

0:50:02.066 --> 0:50:03.386
<v Speaker 3>go in there and just ask the question.

0:50:03.546 --> 0:50:05.746
<v Speaker 2>So he was amazing with it. That was fun working with.

0:50:06.586 --> 0:50:09.986
<v Speaker 1>The producer for all those great features you see on Fox, Mike,

0:50:10.026 --> 0:50:12.146
<v Speaker 1>I love you, man, You're great. You're so cruel and

0:50:12.226 --> 0:50:14.146
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate you taking them time. You're a busy guy.

0:50:15.106 --> 0:50:16.266
<v Speaker 1>Let's get some dinner this weekend.

0:50:16.266 --> 0:50:18.906
<v Speaker 2>What do you say? Let's do it Saturday night.

0:50:19.146 --> 0:50:21.106
<v Speaker 1>Saturday night, We're gonna go out. We're gonna go out hard.

0:50:21.226 --> 0:50:33.106
<v Speaker 1>Let everyone knows, all right, Michael Vick. I'm gonna bring

0:50:33.186 --> 0:50:38.346
<v Speaker 1>in my producer and friend, mister Aaron Wong Kaufman. I

0:50:38.546 --> 0:50:44.866
<v Speaker 1>think Michael Vick is an incredible, incredible American story when

0:50:44.906 --> 0:50:48.826
<v Speaker 1>you talk about the highs, the lows, and then getting

0:50:48.906 --> 0:50:52.226
<v Speaker 1>back into the NFL and making the most of the opportunity.

0:50:52.226 --> 0:50:54.026
<v Speaker 1>And what I take away from all this is that

0:50:54.146 --> 0:50:55.786
<v Speaker 1>like he's got this great heart where he's trying to

0:50:55.826 --> 0:50:58.306
<v Speaker 1>give back to the younger generation and saying, if I

0:50:58.426 --> 0:51:01.586
<v Speaker 1>only knew then what I knew now, and how do

0:51:01.706 --> 0:51:04.306
<v Speaker 1>I use all that information knowledge and experience Because you

0:51:04.426 --> 0:51:06.706
<v Speaker 1>hear him like it's so sad that he's like, you know,

0:51:06.706 --> 0:51:08.386
<v Speaker 1>I had this shoe and I couldn't even enjoy it.

0:51:08.426 --> 0:51:10.586
<v Speaker 1>I couldn't even I was so obsessed with it. And

0:51:10.866 --> 0:51:13.226
<v Speaker 1>then he was talking about, you know, being in all

0:51:13.266 --> 0:51:15.666
<v Speaker 1>these commercials and with the and I wish I could

0:51:15.666 --> 0:51:17.266
<v Speaker 1>go back now and if I knew what I knew

0:51:17.266 --> 0:51:18.786
<v Speaker 1>when I was thirty four, when I was twenty four,

0:51:18.906 --> 0:51:22.026
<v Speaker 1>Like there's a there's a tragic part to the whole

0:51:22.186 --> 0:51:24.066
<v Speaker 1>conversation too, of just like I wish he could have

0:51:24.106 --> 0:51:24.786
<v Speaker 1>just enjoyed.

0:51:24.586 --> 0:51:25.146
<v Speaker 2>It all, you know.

0:51:25.466 --> 0:51:30.306
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, very introspective. And I also loved how much he

0:51:31.186 --> 0:51:34.386
<v Speaker 4>how like he gave his flowers to those that came

0:51:34.426 --> 0:51:37.586
<v Speaker 4>before him a lot. Like I loved him talking about, Oh,

0:51:37.706 --> 0:51:39.946
<v Speaker 4>I love his backup plan with criminology. He's like I

0:51:39.986 --> 0:51:41.706
<v Speaker 4>was gonna be in the FBI, Like I just had

0:51:41.746 --> 0:51:43.986
<v Speaker 4>this other thing I could do, but him talking about

0:51:44.066 --> 0:51:45.906
<v Speaker 4>like I was worried I would have to change my

0:51:46.026 --> 0:51:49.386
<v Speaker 4>position because no black quarterbacks were getting taken. And then

0:51:49.426 --> 0:51:52.026
<v Speaker 4>I saw Donovan mcnatgott yeah, and it was like, wait

0:51:52.106 --> 0:51:53.506
<v Speaker 4>a minute, there's a chance that I can do.

0:51:53.626 --> 0:51:55.626
<v Speaker 1>It's pretty cool. I mean, it's a really good take

0:51:55.706 --> 0:51:57.746
<v Speaker 1>on it. And like I know that this movie comes

0:51:57.786 --> 0:51:59.066
<v Speaker 1>out and I don't know if you've seen it or not.

0:51:59.146 --> 0:52:01.946
<v Speaker 1>It's on Amazon, not it whatever the thing, it's number one.

0:52:02.026 --> 0:52:02.386
<v Speaker 2>It's great.

0:52:02.386 --> 0:52:04.186
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what that means as far as you know,

0:52:04.306 --> 0:52:07.066
<v Speaker 1>for his wallet or for his production career or anything

0:52:07.146 --> 0:52:10.026
<v Speaker 1>like this. But I remember Michael Vick three years ago

0:52:10.106 --> 0:52:11.786
<v Speaker 1>tell me he's like, I'm getting on a plane to

0:52:11.826 --> 0:52:15.106
<v Speaker 1>go sit down with you know, Cam Newton. And I

0:52:15.186 --> 0:52:17.186
<v Speaker 1>was like, okay, for what it's like this project I'm

0:52:17.226 --> 0:52:19.666
<v Speaker 1>working on, and like how many athletes have like projects

0:52:19.706 --> 0:52:22.266
<v Speaker 1>they're working on here. And then it came to fruition

0:52:22.506 --> 0:52:25.426
<v Speaker 1>and it got like a red carpet you know, premiere

0:52:25.586 --> 0:52:27.306
<v Speaker 1>and it was at the Apollo and it was a

0:52:27.346 --> 0:52:28.946
<v Speaker 1>whole thing, and I just I'm so proud of him.

0:52:28.986 --> 0:52:32.306
<v Speaker 1>It was like stuck with it and it's outside his

0:52:32.386 --> 0:52:34.986
<v Speaker 1>comfort zone. He's not a filmmaker, and yet he played

0:52:34.986 --> 0:52:37.626
<v Speaker 1>such a key role. And I from what I gather,

0:52:37.746 --> 0:52:39.866
<v Speaker 1>he seems like he's really satisfied with the final product.

0:52:39.906 --> 0:52:41.186
<v Speaker 2>It's pretty cool. Yeah.

0:52:41.306 --> 0:52:43.346
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I have not watched yet, but I'm excited too.

0:52:43.386 --> 0:52:45.426
<v Speaker 4>It was one of those things that like coming out

0:52:45.466 --> 0:52:47.786
<v Speaker 4>in the midst of the football season that's like, no,

0:52:48.706 --> 0:52:50.946
<v Speaker 4>I'm going to like pull off some time when I

0:52:51.066 --> 0:52:53.946
<v Speaker 4>can you know, set aside like an hour get into

0:52:53.986 --> 0:52:56.466
<v Speaker 4>this now. But yeah, I mean it looks great, and

0:52:57.226 --> 0:53:01.146
<v Speaker 4>he was, Yeah, I really enjoyed hearing him. He was great, great,

0:53:01.226 --> 0:53:02.546
<v Speaker 4>and he's such a pleasure to work with.

0:53:02.826 --> 0:53:06.346
<v Speaker 1>On Sundays, like it's funny you have Dan Orlowski like

0:53:06.466 --> 0:53:09.026
<v Speaker 1>breaking down film of like here's x's and o's, and

0:53:09.066 --> 0:53:12.346
<v Speaker 1>then over on you know CBS, like Matt Ryan is

0:53:12.426 --> 0:53:14.986
<v Speaker 1>doing his thing as the next quarterback. Mike comes in

0:53:15.066 --> 0:53:18.226
<v Speaker 1>and he's just like he sees things that we don't see.

0:53:18.306 --> 0:53:20.466
<v Speaker 1>So he's talking about Jayden Daniels last week and he's like,

0:53:20.546 --> 0:53:22.706
<v Speaker 1>I love the way how he talks to his teammates

0:53:22.706 --> 0:53:25.186
<v Speaker 1>on the sideline and like that's what you're watching. He's like, Oh,

0:53:25.266 --> 0:53:27.386
<v Speaker 1>that's that's what I see. He's like, I see the

0:53:27.426 --> 0:53:28.746
<v Speaker 1>fact that he just go right to the bench and

0:53:28.786 --> 0:53:30.266
<v Speaker 1>put his head in a towel, like he's over there

0:53:30.266 --> 0:53:32.746
<v Speaker 1>and he's talking. I'm like, every one of these star

0:53:32.866 --> 0:53:36.266
<v Speaker 1>quarterbacks has their own personal experiences, and for Michael Vicktt's

0:53:36.386 --> 0:53:40.266
<v Speaker 1>so it's so unique because he was such a breakthrough

0:53:40.306 --> 0:53:42.346
<v Speaker 1>athlete and such a cultural icon.

0:53:42.466 --> 0:53:44.946
<v Speaker 4>And yet you also you hear him talk. He even

0:53:45.026 --> 0:53:47.746
<v Speaker 4>said in the interview like what he what he what

0:53:47.906 --> 0:53:50.146
<v Speaker 4>the game meant to him? And then he said, and

0:53:50.306 --> 0:53:51.746
<v Speaker 4>what the locker room meant to me?

0:53:51.866 --> 0:53:53.346
<v Speaker 1>And what that brotherhood meant me.

0:53:53.426 --> 0:53:55.026
<v Speaker 4>So it makes sense that he would be the one

0:53:55.066 --> 0:53:58.026
<v Speaker 4>who's like, oh, I see Kyler going off, and then

0:53:58.106 --> 0:54:00.026
<v Speaker 4>he goes and he's talking to Marvin on the sideline

0:54:00.026 --> 0:54:02.546
<v Speaker 4>and he's like getting him hyped up, and yeah, it

0:54:02.706 --> 0:54:05.986
<v Speaker 4>was great observation and he just yeah, sounds like he

0:54:05.986 --> 0:54:07.426
<v Speaker 4>looks at it a really interesting way.

0:54:07.746 --> 0:54:12.066
<v Speaker 1>It's cool. Another great podcast episode, and we are happy

0:54:12.186 --> 0:54:15.346
<v Speaker 1>to be sponsored and presented by Uber Eats. We are

0:54:15.506 --> 0:54:19.746
<v Speaker 1>fans of uber Eats. I got an Uber eats iced coffee. Okay,

0:54:19.786 --> 0:54:21.866
<v Speaker 1>so I do the Good Morning Football Show Aaron, and

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<v Speaker 1>when I go out to LA which I did Monday

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<v Speaker 1>and Tuesday, we start the show. I'm in there at

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<v Speaker 1>three am, so we're not kidding. At three am it's

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<v Speaker 1>so early. It's it's absurd, it's it's so early. But

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<v Speaker 1>I need an iced coffee, as you see here, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>holding one here. I need a nice coffee to do anything.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't like making ice coffee. If you make

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<v Speaker 1>an iced coffee, you have to use a coffee maker,

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<v Speaker 1>which they have. They got some great coffee maker there

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<v Speaker 1>at NFL Network. But then you have to it's hot coffee.

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<v Speaker 1>Then we need to do you put it to a fridge,

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<v Speaker 1>but then you put ice in after the fact. It's

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<v Speaker 1>all I like having an iced coffee that's just presented

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<v Speaker 1>to me. I don't know how it's made.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how it is.

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<v Speaker 1>Someone does something and it's just it's there. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>like three in the morning and I'm like, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>awake yet and there's diet coke and like that. That

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<v Speaker 1>just sounds like a toxic way to start your day,

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<v Speaker 1>to have like.

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<v Speaker 2>Just soda in you.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm like, I'm gonna uber eat a Starbucks the

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<v Speaker 1>second it opens. There's a Starbucks that opens in Inglewood

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<v Speaker 1>at like five am. I'm like, I'm gonna uber eats

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<v Speaker 1>one of those. So I talked to one of the

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<v Speaker 1>production coordinators. Great guy, I'm like if I Uber is like,

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<v Speaker 1>i'llubre eeds it for you, Like no, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>no no, I will do it, and he's like, let

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<v Speaker 1>me do it. Within ten minutes, Uber Eats had an

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<v Speaker 1>iced coffee presented to me. And I was having the

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<v Speaker 1>best show in the world on Monday, talking about Derrick

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<v Speaker 1>Henry and talking about Lamar Jackson and going big on

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<v Speaker 1>Jaden and I think I would have been dead if

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't have that iced coffee. I don't personally see

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<v Speaker 1>a dime from uber eats. I am just telling you

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<v Speaker 1>this is an amazing innovation in our lexicon right now.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you're waking up at three am and you

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<v Speaker 1>can get a coffee at five am, the second Starbucks

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<v Speaker 1>opens and they don't deliver, but someone else does that

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<v Speaker 1>delivering results. And the season with Peter Scheger is delivering

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<v Speaker 1>results and well, presented by uber eats, and I give

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<v Speaker 1>a war out each week titled It's time for Delivering

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<v Speaker 1>Results presented by Uber Eats, and this week's winner is

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<v Speaker 1>Derrick Henry, thirty years old. Slow out of the gates

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<v Speaker 1>first two weeks, exploded against Dallas in week three and

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<v Speaker 1>then a week four, I had the most rushing yards

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<v Speaker 1>ever by a Ravens running back in a game with

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred and ninety nine, and then he had an

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<v Speaker 1>eighty seven yard run to really set the tone. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think everyone's back in on Baltimore. They have now

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<v Speaker 1>won two straight games. They're two and two, they're right

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<v Speaker 1>and high. They look good, and Derek Henry looks as

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<v Speaker 1>happier and as spry as he's ever looked before. I

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<v Speaker 1>would say that Derek Henry is just getting started and

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<v Speaker 1>he is just starting to deliver and deliver results. And

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<v Speaker 1>that was delivering results presented at uber eats, where you

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<v Speaker 1>can get the best deals on game day food all

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<v Speaker 1>season long and dice coffee. Uber Eats is the official

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<v Speaker 1>on demand delivery partner of the NFL.

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<v Speaker 2>Order.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, all right, Week five Jets go to London to

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<v Speaker 1>play the undefeated Vikings and Sam Darnold, their former quarterback Minnesota.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's see how it goes.

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<v Speaker 1>Big Minnesota talk last night. We're not going to do

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<v Speaker 1>politics here, but a lot of a lot of references

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<v Speaker 1>to Minneapolis and Minnesota and that vice presidential debate. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking about the skull Vikings, whether this is the

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<v Speaker 1>year they break through. We'll see. My mind is in

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<v Speaker 1>football till next week. We'll have another product coming shortly.

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<v Speaker 1>We enjoyed a conversation we have with someone else. We're

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<v Speaker 1>going to pop that up on the feed. But thank

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<v Speaker 1>you to Michael Vick, thank you to Jason English, thank

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<v Speaker 1>you to Aaron wan Kaufman. Thank you to all the

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<v Speaker 1>folks who helped with this together. Let's keep it rolling.

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Vick tremendous guest this week. So appreciate his time,

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<v Speaker 1>and we so appreciate you listening. The Season with Peter

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<v Speaker 1>Schrager is a production of the NFL and partnership with iHeartRadio.

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