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Speaker 1: Your tuned About Drive on your twenty four to seven

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Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Our number two of the Drive here on this Tuesday

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Speaker 2: inside the Builtmore in Phoenix, Arizona. It is our final

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Speaker 2: day of on location shows here about two thousand miles

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Speaker 2: from home for the NFL League Meetings twenty twenty six

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Speaker 2: edition in joining us now a familiar voice, a familiar name,

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Speaker 2: of course, the co host of the Steelers Blitz at

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Speaker 2: noon on the Steelers Audio Network with our guy Tom Opferman.

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Speaker 2: It is Chris Adanski. Also covers the Steelers for the trib.

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Speaker 2: What's up, buzz? How we doing? You enjoy this Arizona sunshine?

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Speaker 2: It's a dry heat.

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Speaker 3: I hear right, it's a dry heat here.

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Speaker 2: It makes sense though, I finally get.

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Speaker 4: It like this this morning the Uber driver today, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Ninety degrees here doesn't feel like ninety degrees exactly right.

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Speaker 3: Ye, back, you have a cliche, like a joke, but

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Speaker 3: it's actually true. Like you come here, it was like

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Speaker 3: ninety two or something yesterday. Right, you have warm but

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Speaker 3: didn't like ninety two in Pittsburgh's a different nutty two

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Speaker 3: exactly right.

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Speaker 4: Ourruber driver was asking us where we're from. You're from Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 4: He's like, yeah, I'm going up there in August, and

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Speaker 4: he was all worried about it. He's like, what's the

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Speaker 4: It's super humid, right, Like what's the community?

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Speaker 2: Like? It's not Florida and you know what you hear

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Speaker 2: about the South, But yeah, it's I love this weather

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Speaker 2: out here now. I'm sure it's much different in June

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Speaker 2: and July and August when it's one hundred and fifteen

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Speaker 2: degrees outside, But man, I can't imagine many places with

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Speaker 2: better weather in March than here in Arizona. Certainly it's

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Speaker 2: been it's been a welcome development after the winner that

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Speaker 2: we had back home. Chris Danski, any difference in yours?

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Speaker 2: So you were at the Mike McCarthy breakfast this morning,

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Speaker 2: You've been boots on the ground here for about twenty

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Speaker 2: four hours. Now, do you feel any differently about Aaron

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Speaker 2: Rodgers today than you did maybe twenty four hours ago

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Speaker 2: or before you got to Arizona? Where are you at

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Speaker 2: in this whole ongoing conversation.

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Speaker 3: I'd say it's more just the reaffirmation more so, I

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Speaker 3: probably felt that I was gonna say I do, Yes,

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Speaker 3: probably feel more confident than that Aaron Rodgers will be

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Speaker 3: here or be with the seamers here at some point.

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Speaker 3: But I probably I probably felt that yesterday, you know,

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Speaker 3: two days ago too, So I don't know how much

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Speaker 3: it could have been more reinfor, but I guess reinforced.

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Speaker 3: I guess it's probably the proper way to look at it.

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Speaker 4: And a lot of communication, it sounds like that, yeah,

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Speaker 4: he's not. I mean, you wouldn't think.

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Speaker 3: I know, they have a you know, human relationship, not

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Speaker 3: a coach, and they've known each other for twenty years

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Speaker 3: or whatever. But I don't think they be talking to

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Speaker 3: each other the phone every other day, as as Mitch

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Speaker 3: McCarthy's acknowledging over and over again that they're They talked

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Speaker 3: last night, after the after the all the meanings, everything yesterday.

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Speaker 3: So I don't think you're doing before, yeah, exactly. So

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Speaker 3: there's there's a obviously a purpose do it to a

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Speaker 3: I don't think they're breaking down what they're gonna do

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Speaker 3: on the second and three and and you know, in

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Speaker 3: the first quarter of a game.

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Speaker 2: But but I do think they're you know.

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Speaker 3: He said he's he's involved. What was the word he

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Speaker 3: used immersed in what's going on in the off season.

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Speaker 3: He's keeping them, so there's definitely a degree of keeping

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Speaker 3: things communication there, keeping them post to where they're at

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Speaker 3: with everything. And uh, yeah, I I don't think it's

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Speaker 2: I don't.

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Speaker 3: I don't think it's like a there's a thought outside

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Speaker 3: not gonna tell anybody, you know. I don't think it's that.

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Speaker 3: I don't think it's like, get just quiet. But I

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Speaker 3: do think there's a general feeling that this is gonna

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Speaker 4: Yeah. And one thing West pointed out from that interview too,

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Speaker 4: we just replayed it last hour was he mentioned versatility

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Speaker 4: amongst his offensive linemen, and we noted that Hoffman's the

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Speaker 4: only guy that they've added from outside the organization. He

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Speaker 4: invest in a big time prospect on the O line,

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Speaker 4: someone to play on the left side. But do you

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Speaker 3: He talked a lot of you're right, you listen to

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Speaker 3: that's generally just modern football anymore, certainly in defense at all,

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Speaker 3: like that'll be down to down game playing a game,

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Speaker 3: might be games or situations where he's playing. But that's

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Speaker 3: just what in the offensive line is part of that.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 3: It's you know, whether the Steelers kind of had a

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Speaker 3: you know, would say them all they weren't. They wouldn't

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Speaker 3: like we couldn't wait for say, I'm all to leave.

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Speaker 3: It wasn't like kick him out the door. Sometimes you

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Speaker 3: get that point with a veteran guy, We're not resigning him.

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Speaker 3: I think there was interest or or they wanted to

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Speaker 3: would be sort of disingenuous to say, well, they expect

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Speaker 3: saying well they could have been back and they obviously

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Speaker 3: bringing a veteran free agent like they have. But you're right,

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Speaker 3: you know, if maybe a couple of months ago, I

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Speaker 3: round of the draft. But the more and more this

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Speaker 3: the more you know and proderct Jones think. I think

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Speaker 3: a couple months agoing off the guy was again me didn't

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Speaker 3: think Broderick Jones would be a physical question a health

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Speaker 2: So I think that factors. There was a little bit

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Speaker 2: I want to follow up with you on that. What

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Speaker 2: do you what are you hearing on Broderick's health.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like it's hard to get that information.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's I don't I think medically wise, I think

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Speaker 3: But it's also like he's been offensive line. I mean,

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Speaker 3: you need to train, your body has been sort of

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Speaker 3: builds up and you know, gets them physically where he

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Speaker 3: obviously then it's kind of a separate issue, but it

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Speaker 3: all goes together, the performance and where he's at and

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Speaker 3: everything in terms of what we've seen from on tape

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Speaker 4: You had a good point though, too. I mean, it's

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Speaker 4: such a strength based position, and I'm sure sure this

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Speaker 4: he has to lose some strength on this whole process.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right, because he is that obviously the core

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Speaker 3: guess you could do legs. I guess the theoretically wouldn't

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Speaker 3: have injuries. I get it, but I just think all

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Speaker 3: it doesn't sound at all like it's anything. Not that

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Speaker 3: they're different players, and I don't think that anybody really

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Speaker 3: I don't They're not anywhere to that level of that

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Speaker 3: building himself back up. So it's still you know, as

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Speaker 3: we sit here right now at this moment, still March,

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Speaker 3: just April's coming real soon here, and we're starting to

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Speaker 3: A doctor and saying no, he can't do you know, you.

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Speaker 4: Don't think they pick up his fifty year option?

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Speaker 1: I do?

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Speaker 4: I really be shocked. Yeah, i'd be Yeah. I mean

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Speaker 4: if he was a better player or one hundred percent healthy,

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Speaker 4: but two strikes against you, it's like.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's really cook's on that exactly. You have

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Speaker 3: cooking And if we're sitting here talking and I agree

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Speaker 3: mean not only if that had if that happens and

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Speaker 3: even slammed the door even more on the first and

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Speaker 3: the fifty year option for for Jones, but the fact

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Speaker 4: In play, Yeah, possibility.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it says kind of where things are at.

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Speaker 4: And it looks like there'll be guys to pick from

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Speaker 4: A twenty one. It happened. Yeah some years again't even

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Speaker 2: Chris Adamski, co host of the Steelers Blitz, covers the

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Speaker 2: Steelers for the trip with us here on our mini

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Speaker 2: radio row inside the Biltmore and Phoenix, Arizona.

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Speaker 4: Chris, We're doing a lot of heavy lifting on radio

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Speaker 4: row this year. We are, I think have held up there.

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Speaker 2: So we are we're about one third of the radio

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Speaker 2: representation down here.

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Speaker 4: I think we're about ninety percent of the radio representation.

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Speaker 2: Where the where the Aaron Rodgers in this in this

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Speaker 2: room down here? You know, we're the ones walking right

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Speaker 2: into Canton one day and everyone else is just on

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Speaker 2: the coattails.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of quarterbacks buzz there, it continues to be a

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Speaker 2: lot of positive buzz from Mike McCarthy and company on

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Speaker 2: Will Howard, Mike McCarthy saying that if he was in

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Speaker 2: charge of the draft last year, Will Howard would not

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Speaker 2: have lasted into the sixth round? Is this is this real?

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Speaker 2: How much of a crack is he going to get?

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Speaker 3: It's genuine for sure that that the that the offensive

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Speaker 4: That's what's gonna ask you next, is because I've said

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Speaker 4: Make the team. Now Rudolph might flip him into a

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Speaker 4: Much of the troupe practices the whole year, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: So part of me thinks, like they'll roll the ball

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Speaker 3: like Okay, well you know, show us not you know,

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Speaker 3: you deserve a part of the future. Okay, Mason, show

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Speaker 4: Team now and gire in there. Yeah, makes it all

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Speaker 3: It's like it's almost harder to make twelve picks and

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Speaker 4: To make the team that you want to spend time developing,

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Speaker 2: I wanted to ask you just, you know, maybe a

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Speaker 4: I mean, I'm generally calm to concerned. I guess.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if it's kt up a lot brought

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Speaker 3: So I think that if we're still here and it's

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Speaker 4: Last thing I have for you, and I think we

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Speaker 3: I mean, there's a clean slate aspect any time there's

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Speaker 4: more roster spots to go around. Yeah you know, right, yeah,

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Speaker 4: so a lot.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of reasons why Roman seems a little

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Speaker 3: in a better spot right now.

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Speaker 4: That's the Roman does have to run down on kickoffs

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Speaker 4: to save his job exactly.

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Speaker 2: We are in a better spot after having about eighteen

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Speaker 2: minutes with our friend Chris Danski. Make sure you're checking

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Speaker 2: out all his work in the trim this week and

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Speaker 2: of course listening to him and Tom here on the

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Speaker 2: Steelers Blitz on the Steelers Audio Network. Buzz. Thanks for

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Speaker 2: the time, go Mar's planets.

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Speaker 4: There you go, and.

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Speaker 2: We'll be back with some around the league conversation other

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Speaker 2: news of the day when we return. Weshlert Matt Williamson

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Speaker 2: here inside the Biltmore in Phoenix, Arizona. All part of

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Speaker 2: our ongoing coverage of the league meetings on Steelers Nation

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Speaker 2: Radio on the Steelers Audio Network, your tunes.

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Speaker 1: About Drive on your twenty four to seven home of

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Speaker 1: the Black and Goal. Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Back on the Drive here inside the Biltmore is our

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Speaker 2: final day of annual league meeting coverage, the twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: six edition here in Phoenix, Arizona.

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Speaker 4: Been good so far?

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Speaker 2: Huh, Matt, great you I was I was joking with

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Speaker 2: you when we were walking over here this morning after

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Speaker 2: getting our highly valuable swag bags.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm excited to dig in. What's on these bags nice.

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Speaker 2: I think we started a little bit of a firestorm

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Speaker 2: because after us there was about a dozen members of

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Speaker 2: the steel.

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Speaker 4: We were smart kep our Mouth Quiet, one of the

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Speaker 4: first ones in, and then we started spreading the.

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Speaker 2: Words exactly, rights, exactly, get your goodies, take care of

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Speaker 2: yourself first, right, and then you yeah, you know that's

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Speaker 2: the golden rule. I think, right, just take care of

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Speaker 2: yourself and then worry about others. And that's exactly what

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Speaker 2: we did this morning. I was telling you when we

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Speaker 2: were walking back over here, I was like, Matt, you

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Speaker 2: told me how awesome these few days were and how

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Speaker 2: cool all this is.

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Speaker 4: It's just a different world.

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Speaker 2: But I think even undersold it a little bit. I

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Speaker 2: mean it was undersold and over delivered. I mean the

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Speaker 2: the just the access, the property here, the meals, the food.

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Speaker 4: The one thing we might have to do before we

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Speaker 4: even like sneak out, before we uber back to the hotel,

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Speaker 4: is see how far we can get back into the

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Speaker 4: really really nice area.

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Speaker 2: Trying to give me a trouble.

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Speaker 4: Huh, Well, we're not going to break down any barriers

485
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Speaker 4: or anything, but well, to see how far we can

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Speaker 4: meander back there. Because I think the deeper and deeper

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Speaker 4: you get into the property. It's like villas and you know,

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Speaker 4: super expensive stuff.

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Speaker 2: You know, Mad's a little bit braver than me in

490
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Speaker 2: these next year you will be in these settings. He

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Speaker 2: likes to He likes to push the boundaries of the

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Speaker 2: credential and see how far it.

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Speaker 4: Can get us sound like you belong.

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Speaker 2: That's half the battle. It's half the battle, right, and

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Speaker 2: that certainly was half the battle of us getting this

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Speaker 2: big Nike bag.

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Speaker 4: Walking into a bag, like walking into a beer distributor

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Speaker 4: here when you're seventeen. You gotta look like you belong.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't know anything about that. I don't know. I

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Speaker 2: don't know what you're talking about, Matt. Obviously we a

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Speaker 2: lot of steelers moving and shaking through the first about

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Speaker 2: halfway home.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of I would say news, but a

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Speaker 4: lot of moving and shaking. It's good way put it

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Speaker 4: in right.

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Speaker 2: Things that obviously deserve conversation. But with the AFC head

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Speaker 2: Coaches breakfast today, fifteen other head coaches spoke, there's been

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Speaker 2: some more gms and owners that have you know, spoken

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Speaker 2: the last what you know, twenty one hours or so

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Speaker 2: since we were last on air yesterday day I think

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Speaker 2: a big piece of news at least. Something that struck

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Speaker 2: me this morning is it seems like there's a lot

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Speaker 2: of confidence amongst the Kansas City Chiefs that Patrick Mahomes

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Speaker 2: is going to be ready for the opener.

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Speaker 4: Oh wow, I haven't seen any of this news yet.

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Speaker 2: And and you know, Andy Reid seemed optimistic when he

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Speaker 2: was asked about that at his you know, of media

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Speaker 2: availability this morning. And then Adam Scheffter, actually not too

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Speaker 2: far from from where we sit here out in front

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Speaker 2: of the facility, went on the Pat McAfee show and said,

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Speaker 2: give Patrick Mahomes five more months and he's going to

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Speaker 2: be ready for the opener. That's what I expect. I

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Speaker 2: think he will be back.

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Speaker 4: So medicine's come a long way. I mean, there's no

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Speaker 4: doubt about have come a long way. He's played through.

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Speaker 4: One of the most underrated things about Mahomes is some

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Speaker 4: of the stuff he's played through too. I mean, he's

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Speaker 4: he's had some of these catastrophic looking ankle injuries in

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Speaker 4: the wildcard round or whatever, and still takes his team

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Speaker 4: to the super Bowl. And there are some people like

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Speaker 4: that and not Comewood, like Cam Hayward always talks about

532
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Speaker 4: how he has like wolverine blood and he just heals

533
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Speaker 4: quicker than others. And I think some of it extreme

534
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Speaker 4: athletes and guys that are bodies are even better than

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Speaker 4: those that are I mean, everyone that plays in League

536
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Speaker 4: is the top one percent of humans walking the planet.

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Speaker 4: But there's even the one percent of those guys that

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Speaker 4: are a little more athletic, a little more limber, a

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Speaker 4: little stronger, a little more balanced, et cetera. And there's

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Speaker 4: nobody epitomizes that more than Mahomes. Plus the other thing,

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Speaker 4: people just think he gets by on ability. His work

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Speaker 4: ethic is through the roof and he's going to train

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Speaker 4: to no end. But still, when they traded for Justin Fields,

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Speaker 4: I thought, maybe though it'll be week three until he

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Speaker 4: comes back. You know, Fields will play the whole preseason,

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Speaker 4: which I'm sure he'll do no matter what, and Andy

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Speaker 4: Reid will try to revitalize a really talented player kind

548
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Speaker 4: of at a crossroads in his career. Fields obviously, and

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Speaker 4: maybe they'll just run the ball like crazy for the

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Speaker 4: first two weeks of the season or something like that.

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Speaker 4: You got the Super Bowl, n Ye, and you signed

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Speaker 4: you know, a running back for that reason. I assume,

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Speaker 4: but I'd rather run with Mahomes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I'd rather have a healthy Mahomes, that

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Speaker 2: is for sure. So that one, that one was interesting

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Speaker 2: to me because it seemed seemed like a lot of

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Speaker 2: confidence that he'll be ready to go in September when

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Speaker 2: the season gets rolling and.

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Speaker 4: The league's better for it. I mean, it's one of

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Speaker 4: the best quarterbacks ever lived, you know, and want him

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Speaker 4: on the sidelines.

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Speaker 2: And I think there is a you can draw a

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Speaker 2: direct correlation in this league to the quality of the

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Speaker 2: product and the quality of the quarterback of playing.

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Speaker 4: Josh Allen and Lamar and these Borough and these guys

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Speaker 4: missing time exactly right, and Lamar and Burrow missed too

567
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Speaker 4: much time exactly right.

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Speaker 2: Uh. And speaking, let's let's stay there, Matt in quarterback conversations. Uh,

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Speaker 2: some interesting stuff today in regards to what the Cleveland

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Speaker 2: Browns are going to do in the AFC North at

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Speaker 2: the back position. Uh So Jimmy Haslem, Brown's owner, spoke,

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Speaker 2: as did obviously their new head coach, Todd Munkin. And

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I want to say that it's

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Speaker 2: a disconnect, but basically, Jimmy Haslam said he told reporters

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Speaker 2: that Deshaun Watson has a quote great chance to be

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Speaker 2: Cleveland's starting quarterback, okay, and then Monken kind of followed

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Speaker 2: that up this morning, saying the reps won't be evenly

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Speaker 2: divided in this quarterback battle and will be based on

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Speaker 2: what we've seen in the past and where we ended

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Speaker 2: last year in terms of how this is all going

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Speaker 2: to go about with of course Schador Sanders, Deshaun Watson,

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Speaker 2: and Dylan Gabriel.

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Speaker 4: So Jimmy Haslam was not the owner of the Browns

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Speaker 4: when I was there, That's how long ago I was there.

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Speaker 4: But my hunch is when the owner says he's going

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Speaker 4: to be in the mix, he's gonna be in the mix.

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Speaker 4: I mean, are we going to listen to the head

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Speaker 4: coach who didn't say he's not going to be in

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Speaker 4: the mix to be fair, or are we going to

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Speaker 4: listen to his boss who says he is going to

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Speaker 4: be in the mix and remembers the ridiculous investment they

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Speaker 4: made in Watson. What I think I find kind of

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Speaker 4: funny is the dude they drafted in the third round,

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Speaker 4: Dylan Gabriel's they ain't like never even comes up anymore.

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Speaker 4: You know, like.

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Speaker 2: Ever, and he started what like the first ten games

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Speaker 2: of the season.

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Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, they drafted them two rounds ahead of Shador,

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Speaker 4: and there were some weird things going on there. Don't

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Speaker 4: get me wrong. It's not a normal draft progression. But

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Speaker 4: I do think it's going to be like a Chador

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Speaker 4: Watson competition in camp. And could some team grab Gabriel

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Speaker 4: for six round pick? I mean, I was like just

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Speaker 4: a solid backup, but you know, potentially my hunches and

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Speaker 4: this probably goes out saying is they don't have their

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Speaker 4: quarterback and I don't think they'll pursue it until next year. Sure,

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Speaker 4: and they have a chance to build a decent nest

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Speaker 4: with all these picks, and they are a free spending team.

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Speaker 2: That's got to be job number one for this new

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Speaker 2: staff and new regime is let's build. Let's build the

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Speaker 2: nest so that when we do find the quarterback where

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Speaker 2: you know, yeah, we put them in the best situation.

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Speaker 4: But receivers in o linement are going to be stressed

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Speaker 4: heavily in this draft for them. Off the stuff aside

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Speaker 4: about Watson though, I mean, I'm not saying that's water

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Speaker 4: in a bridger. It doesn't matter. I'd love to see

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Speaker 4: him play.

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Speaker 2: Right now, just in terms of the curiosity.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, total curiosity. I mean the day they traded for him,

620
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Speaker 4: I thought he was a top five quarterback.

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Speaker 2: He was, without a doubt.

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Speaker 4: I mean, he was a phenomenal player. And trust me,

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Speaker 4: I'm not rooting for him. I mean there's probably knowing

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Speaker 4: the league and rooting for less to be very honest

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Speaker 4: with you, considering the team he plays for, in his

626
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Speaker 4: background and all that stuff too. But I'm extremely curious.

627
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Speaker 4: Is he gonna be the worst quarterback in the league?

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Speaker 4: Is could he get back to being good?

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Speaker 2: Could he be the fourteenth best?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 4: I mean, how much work does he put in? Does

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Speaker 4: he look like he hasn't touched the football in two years?

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Speaker 4: I mean, I just think it's a fascinating study, you know,

634
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Speaker 4: a scientific experiment.

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Speaker 2: So he had that unbelievable twenty twenty season with Houston, yeah,

636
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Speaker 2: where they probably should have beaten the Chiefs in the

637
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Speaker 2: in the playoffs, but had that just crazy game. He

638
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Speaker 2: led the league in passing that year, he led the

639
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Speaker 2: league in yards per completion that year, yards per that year,

640
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Speaker 2: thirty three touchdowns to only seven interceptions.

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Speaker 4: US nobility as well as yeah, yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 2: Right, and then twenty one sits out and since then

643
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Speaker 2: Matt sat out in twenty one, sat out in twenty five.

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Speaker 2: So he's played. He's played twenty two to twenty three,

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Speaker 2: twenty four.

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Speaker 4: But they all Browns.

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Speaker 2: For the Browns, yes, played six games in twenty two,

648
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Speaker 2: six games in twenty three, seven games and twenty four.

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Speaker 4: And he was like the worst quarterback in the league

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Speaker 4: for all of them. Yes, yeah, yes, like this totally

651
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Speaker 4: fell off a cliff and so I and he's got

652
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 4: alls guaranteed money and we know the off field stuff,

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Speaker 4: and you know.

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Speaker 2: I would be shocked if he can get back to

655
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Speaker 2: eat the league average quarterback. But he just turned thirty

656
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Speaker 2: one years old, which for a quarterback is right in

657
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Speaker 2: the middle of your prime.

658
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and at least, you know, if you're looking at

659
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Speaker 4: the Browns, maybe they think they have something in Shout

660
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,440
Speaker 4: or maybe they do, who knows. But if you're playing Watson,

661
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:56,680
Speaker 4: like they said they're going to divvy up the snaps,

662
00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 4: Let's say they give them forty percent of the action

663
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Speaker 4: and OTA's and minie camps can roll around and then

664
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Speaker 4: go from there. It's not like you're restricting you know,

665
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Speaker 4: some super high investment pick. You know, it's not like

666
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:15,639
Speaker 4: cam Ward. We're not letting you get out there and

667
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 4: let you develop, you know, I mean, the guys that

668
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:22,200
Speaker 4: he would be stealing reps off of aren't the first

669
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Speaker 4: overall pick. Yeah. Right, it's like, hey, we just drafted Mendoza.

670
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Speaker 4: Now we're going to play in that much by Simpson. Yeah,

671
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Speaker 4: somebody's in the way like Watson.

672
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Speaker 2: No, Hey, it will be It always is interesting to

673
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:37,160
Speaker 2: see how things play out in Cleveland, but I think

674
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Speaker 2: it certainly will be, particularly from that quarterback perspective here

675
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Speaker 2: as the off season programs begin.

676
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Speaker 4: It'll at least be interesting, absolutely, right, right, absolutely, I'm

677
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 4: not interesting, not interesting because it's going to be pretty.

678
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Speaker 4: But no, it probably won't go well. Probably won't go well.

679
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Speaker 4: I'm certain it won't.

680
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 2: Matt Dan Campbell saying today that he's considering switching All

681
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Speaker 2: Pro right tackle Pinay Soul to left tackle for the

682
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Speaker 2: twenty twenty six season. Yeah, depending on how the rest

683
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Speaker 2: of the offseason shakes out.

684
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Speaker 4: So I find this interesting too, Like originally I had

685
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 4: heard this was mentioned like a month or so ago.

686
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Speaker 4: I'm like him or Lane Johnson's the best right tackle

687
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 4: on the planet. Why would you ever mess with something

688
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 4: that's almost as close to perfect as football gets. But

689
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 4: there O lines in a bit of a disarray, and

690
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 4: they don't pick too far away from the Steelers. They're

691
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Speaker 4: going to be looking at a lot of this similar

692
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Speaker 4: O line prospects Proctor and Fano and lay MoU and

693
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 4: all those dudes. And I think they want the versatility

694
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Speaker 4: on draft day to say, we don't have to take

695
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Speaker 4: a left or we don't have to take a right.

696
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Speaker 4: And I gave it some thought too, I mean, soul

697
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 4: like Tristan Wurfs is in the top one percent of

698
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Speaker 4: all the offensive tackles in terms of ability. I mean,

699
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Speaker 4: it's so and he was a left tackle in Oregon

700
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Speaker 4: he was successful as he's been at right tackle. I

701
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Speaker 4: mean I mention Worfs because the Bucks did the exact

702
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 4: same thing with Work too, is they drafted a left tackle,

703
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 4: made him a right tackle he was basically the best

704
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 4: in the league, and then switched them back a year

705
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 4: or two ago. And he's one of the best and

706
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 4: it didn't matter at all because he's so good. He's unbelievable.

707
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Speaker 4: So maybe Seul would just be look, I'm that good.

708
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 4: It doesn't matter, you know, and he might be you know,

709
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Speaker 4: like we've talked about for years.

710
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Speaker 2: It's like, you know, it works both ways. Sometimes they

711
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:22,240
Speaker 2: start those guys on the right they're great, and they

712
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 2: leave them there, like like Lane Johnson. I think a

713
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 2: lot of people thought eventually Lane Johnson would move to

714
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Speaker 2: the left side for the US, but he just stayed there.

715
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 2: So there's no right or wrong answer.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and there's more flip flopping than there used to

717
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 4: be used to be. Right tackles are the brawlers and

718
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 4: the left tackles or the dancing bears, and you don't

719
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 4: flip them. And there's a lot of famous quotes about

720
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 4: you know, it's like wiping yourself with the other hand

721
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 4: if you flip and all those things. But like look

722
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 4: at Fileton, who's draft class. There was like six tackles

723
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Speaker 4: drafted in the first half of all one switched. They're

724
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 4: all over the place, you know, all goes from left

725
00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 4: to right. He's still great. Falton, who was a left tackle,

726
00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 4: he goes, alright, he's great. You know, maybe it's easier now.

727
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 4: I'm just open to that. Yeah.

728
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Speaker 2: No, I certainly think that is definitely something that has

729
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 2: evolved and you got to kind of change your process

730
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 2: with that, as opposed to how we all felt ten

731
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Speaker 2: years ago.

732
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Speaker 4: Like the Penny sul was sitting here, he'd be like,

733
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 4: I don't care. I'll be fine, out great, I'll be great.

734
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 2: Right, you're not gonna pay me big money, I'll be

735
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 2: great on either side, I don't care. No one's gon

736
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 2: whatever's best for the team. Chris Ballard, another name that

737
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 2: you and I have discussed a little bit throughout the

738
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 2: offseason matt Is Colts quarterback Anthony Richardson. And yeah, how

739
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 2: of all the different I guess if you want to

740
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 2: label him potential reclamation projects, he would.

741
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 4: Probably once the Baker, the Daniel Jones Donald right, right, right.

742
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 2: And so we've kind of mentioned that he would be

743
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 2: the guy that we'd be most interested in that regard,

744
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 2: and that it seems like the Colts are ready to

745
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 2: move on. But Chris Ballard saying today there is a

746
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 2: scenario where Richardson stays with the Colts. Quote, there's definitely

747
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 2: a scenario there. He's a good dude, He's talented. I

748
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 2: still want good for Anthony. I think he's still got

749
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 2: a lot in him. He's had some freaking bad luck,

750
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 2: but I still think Anthony's got a lot of ability,

751
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 2: and he's maturing and growing, and he's still young. Anytime

752
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 2: you take a quarterback that high the expectations, it's hard

753
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 2: to live up to them, no matter who you are.

754
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've never thought he's somebody they have the trade,

755
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 4: got to get this guy out of the out of

756
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 4: the room. I mean, no one's ever said.

757
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 2: Surely with Daniel Jones, Yeah, he'd be ready for the

758
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 2: cent too.

759
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 4: You might need Richardson. I know they've Riley Leonard, but

760
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 4: I think he's nowhere near the prospect Richardson was, or

761
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 4: the ceiling Richardson was, and Jones probably. I know Jones

762
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 4: won't be available for OTA's mini camp, probably well into

763
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Speaker 4: training camp, maybe not even the beginning of the season.

764
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Speaker 4: If you're the Colts, wouldn't you at least want to

765
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 4: instead of dumping him for a fifth round pick, wouldn't

766
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:51,719
Speaker 4: you at least want to give three or four months

767
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 4: worth more of him actually playing football. I mean, he

768
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 4: had a broken orbital bone, but he's gonna be fine now,

769
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 4: I mean that's that's not a lingering injury or you know,

770
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 4: an athletic changing injury. He's still gonna run he's still

771
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 4: gonna throw you and blah blah blah. So if somebody

772
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 4: comes and knocks your doors off, great, But there's a

773
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Speaker 4: lot of these quarterbacks I thought would definitely be on

774
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 4: the move, like the mac Joneses of the world, that

775
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 4: just haven't ben And there hasn't been quite as much

776
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 4: quarterback movement around the league. Everyone's kind of settled, even

777
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 4: if you don't include the Steelers, you know, and where

778
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Speaker 4: would you even go.

779
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:27,239
Speaker 2: It's a good point, you know, especially if you take

780
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Speaker 2: the Steelers out of the conversation.

781
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 4: Right which I think it's gonna be Rogers and the

782
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 4: two guys and maybe a pick, and that's pretty much

783
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Speaker 4: written on the wall.

784
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 2: There's there's some of the other moving and shaking of

785
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Speaker 2: the day. We have a few more teas to cross

786
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Speaker 2: and eyes to dot when we wrap up our number two.

787
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Speaker 2: On the other side, our buddy Alan Saunders from Steelers

788
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Speaker 2: Now is going to join us in the bonus our

789
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 2: third hour before we get out of here. We'll also

790
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Speaker 2: get to plenty of your tweets as we roll along

791
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Speaker 2: here inside the Biltmore. We are on location in Arizona

792
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Speaker 2: for the annual League Meeting. Wes Shuoler Matt Williamson. It

793
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Speaker 2: is the Drive Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network.

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Speaker 1: Your tunes about Drive on your twenty four to seven

795
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Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

796
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Speaker 2: Closing down the second hour of the show here on

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Speaker 2: our third day at the league meetings. It is the

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Speaker 2: Drive on location about two thousand miles away from our

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Speaker 2: studios in Bridgeville, Pennsylvania. Here in Phoenix, Arizona, where it's sunny,

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Speaker 2: where it's beautiful, all the moving and shaking of the

801
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Speaker 2: annual league meetings, and Matt across the timeline here via

802
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Speaker 2: Tom Pellasero, of course, of the NFL Network. The NFL

803
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 2: owners have approved four rule changes. Okay, so here right,

804
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:46,959
Speaker 2: here's what they thought.

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Speaker 4: These things happened while we're here, right right. There's a

806
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 4: reason everybody gets together.

807
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 2: I thought it was for the fancy dinner last night,

808
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 2: right right, taking the sushi and the smoked watermelon martarita and.

809
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 4: The Mexican floating around down here and all that good

810
00:34:58,160 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 4: stuff too.

811
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Speaker 2: I'm about to I'm just abuse a burrito later for dinner.

812
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:03,399
Speaker 4: I can't wait. I think it's a good move.

813
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 2: Tom Pellisera saying these four have passed the first to

814
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 2: permit the kicking team to declare an on side kick

815
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:12,880
Speaker 2: at any time during the game has passed.

816
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Speaker 4: I mean, I thought that was an easy one.

817
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:18,319
Speaker 2: And I still ninety seven percent of them will still

818
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 2: be in the fourth quarter. Of course, ninety eight percent

819
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 2: of it will still be in the fourth quarter.

820
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Speaker 4: But if someone's in the fourth first, doesn't make it smart.

821
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 4: But do it? Who cares?

822
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 2: Right, if you're down seventeen points at the end of

823
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 2: the third quarter, Yeah, go for it.

824
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 4: Desperate times, you know, right, right right.

825
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:33,759
Speaker 2: Desperate times, desperate measures, all that good stuff. Yeah, that way.

826
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Speaker 4: I think they discrewed that up when they wrote it

827
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 4: the first time. Same, Yeah, let's just correct a year

828
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 4: or two later. And that's how a lot of these

829
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:40,400
Speaker 4: things work, exactly exactly.

830
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Speaker 2: That's why you have competition committees.

831
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Speaker 4: Right.

832
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:46,319
Speaker 2: The second thing that has passed here in Arizona is

833
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 2: eliminating the kicking team's incentive to intentionally kick the ball

834
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 2: out of bounds when kicking off from the fifty yard line.

835
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 4: That was a total loophole.

836
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 2: That was one I just.

837
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 4: Think they just didn't think through. Yep, especially and how coach,

838
00:35:57,719 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 4: how did you?

839
00:35:58,280 --> 00:35:59,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was the first time going through it.

840
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:00,359
Speaker 4: Mm hmm.

841
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 2: And so yeah, we saw that. Danny Smith did that

842
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 2: a couple of times last year. We saw it. I

843
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:06,880
Speaker 2: remember in Dublin was one of the times.

844
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,840
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, drill bounds and.

845
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 2: Drill out of bounds and you end up getting five yards.

846
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,839
Speaker 2: You give the offense five yards less of uh, you know,

847
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,360
Speaker 2: of field of field position in the process.

848
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,479
Speaker 4: Too, kind of helpless feeling if you're the return team.

849
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 2: Yes, so that one certainly a little bit of a loophole.

850
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:25,959
Speaker 4: So how did they word you're not allowed to drill

851
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 4: it out of bounds?

852
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 2: Yes, now, so again I think they probably still have

853
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:31,879
Speaker 2: to decide the parameters on that. Maybe if I guess

854
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 2: there's a big penalty, maybe it's a big penalty. It's

855
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:35,799
Speaker 2: just if you kick it out of bounds, the ball

856
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:39,879
Speaker 2: goes here, you know, it's just fifty or something. Yeah, yeah,

857
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 2: thirty five that's probably what it is, right or whatever.

858
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,320
Speaker 2: So some of the language of these rules will still

859
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 2: have to be delegated. Yeah, yeah, but but we know

860
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 2: at least that.

861
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Speaker 4: But what was proposed past yes to.

862
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:55,400
Speaker 2: Eliminate that incentive to intentionally kick the ball out of

863
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:58,239
Speaker 2: bounds has passed. So that's two of the four and

864
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 2: a third one also directly. We we talked about this

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Speaker 2: on Sunday on our kind of opening show and our

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Speaker 2: our kind of primer and for one one to set

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Speaker 2: the scene here for for the week. A lot of

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Speaker 2: this related four one one is like need it's like

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Speaker 2: your information like four one one.

870
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 4: Well, I know, but like, what's why did that come about?

871
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 2: That's a good question.

872
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 4: Why in a two eight seven it's four.

873
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:24,279
Speaker 2: One one relevant information or the truth? What does the

874
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:25,919
Speaker 2: slang term four one one mean?

875
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:27,840
Speaker 4: Where it derive from? I guess is mine It.

876
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 2: Originates from the United States telephone system where four one

877
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 2: one was the number dialed for directory assistance to get information.

878
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 4: So it's like nine to one one, you know, like

879
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 4: there's certain numbers you pipe it was Google.

880
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 2: Basically before Google, you dial for one you can get

881
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 2: your information. So give me the four one one is

882
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 2: all the news, all the all the gossip, all the

883
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 2: low down waiting for Internet and on a particular subject.

884
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, I understood what it meant. I just know where

885
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 4: it came from.

886
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:54,439
Speaker 2: Hey, we're learning something new here every day. A lot

887
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 2: of these, as we shared with you are related to

888
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,840
Speaker 2: the kickoffs in the third rule change that has passed

889
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 2: is also related to kick off, to modify the kickoff

890
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,959
Speaker 2: alignment requirements for the receiving team players in the setup zone.

891
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:06,319
Speaker 4: So they're allowing that.

892
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:08,319
Speaker 2: They're allowing that so teams will have a little more

893
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 2: wiggle room, a little more freedom to how they want

894
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 2: to align on kickoffs. Now it's not rigid and set

895
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:15,720
Speaker 2: and stack.

896
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:17,919
Speaker 4: Yeah, it has to be this way. Again, that's both

897
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 4: We both leaned that way whenever we brought this stuff up,

898
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 4: you know, when we got here. And again, I mean, like,

899
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:27,359
Speaker 4: if you're going to allow defensive coordinators, offensive coordinators, play

900
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 4: designers on those sides of the ball to be more

901
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 4: creative with their formations and schemes, why not let the

902
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 4: special team coaches do it too.

903
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 2: It makes a ton of sense. Yeah, yeah, absolutely makes

904
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 2: a ton of sense. So those three, I think we

905
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 2: thought that there was a really good chance that those

906
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 2: three would pass. All related.

907
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:43,760
Speaker 4: I bet there wasn't much resistance on those.

908
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 2: All related to the kickoff, all of those proposed by

909
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:49,400
Speaker 2: the Competition Committee. And according to Tom Pilasaro.

910
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 4: Eas remember the whole dynamic kickoffs still pretty new.

911
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, so the dynamic kickoff is still on its rookie

912
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 2: deal entering.

913
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:00,919
Speaker 4: Deal looks like they'll pick up a fifty year option.

914
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 2: I don't think it's going anywhere. I don't think they'll

915
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:05,919
Speaker 2: have to think about that one too much. And then, finally, Matt,

916
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,800
Speaker 2: the fourth and final rule change that has passed, according

917
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 2: to Tom Pallisero of the NFL Network, is that.

918
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:12,840
Speaker 4: Dun dun dum.

919
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 2: For one year only, the NFL will allow the officiating

920
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:19,279
Speaker 2: department to correct clear and obvious misses made by on

921
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 2: field officials that impact the game in the event that

922
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 2: there is a work stoppage involving the game officials represented

923
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 2: by the NFL Referees Association.

924
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, and at a minimum, this ref thing is not

925
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 4: going to go away soon. I'm sure we'll be talking

926
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 4: about this for weeks, maybe months, hopefully not months and

927
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:41,919
Speaker 4: months and months. My takeaway, and this really reaffirms it

928
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 4: is at a minimum, the owners in the league are

929
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 4: putting pressure on the ref Yes, you know, and that yeah, right,

930
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 4: right right, But that's at least that much. Yes, they're

931
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:57,839
Speaker 4: they're they're pushing pushing the hammer down a little bit.

932
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 2: Oh and also via Palisero, and NFL owners also just

933
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:04,239
Speaker 2: approved an amended rule change that not only will allow

934
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 2: league personnel to consult with on field officials when considering disqualifications.

935
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 2: Remember we talked about.

936
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:18,240
Speaker 5: This, Yeah, punching and stamping, So not only to review

937
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:22,240
Speaker 5: those type of things, but also to throw a flag

938
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 5: on the play as well too.

939
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 4: So not only that did get approved, yes, okay.

940
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:28,360
Speaker 2: So not only could someone from the league office or

941
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:31,759
Speaker 2: from the booth, you know, buzz down and say, hey,

942
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:35,360
Speaker 2: Jamar Chase just spit on Jalen Ramsey to look at

943
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:36,919
Speaker 2: you got to eject him out of you could also

944
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 2: say you could throw a fifteen yard personal foul on

945
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 2: that even if the referees miss it.

946
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 4: All good again, I think I brought this up two

947
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:46,799
Speaker 4: days ago that that should happen. I don't want people

948
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 4: getting away with disgusting acts and things like that. Yeah,

949
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 4: I agree, But how far do we take it? You know?

950
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:54,359
Speaker 4: Is it like shove yeah right right? Oh, he might

951
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:56,279
Speaker 4: hit him in the face mask after the penalty are.

952
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:58,880
Speaker 2: Like little palm to the face or does it have

953
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 2: to be a growing punch? Does it have to be

954
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:03,400
Speaker 2: a stomp on the ankle? Does it have to be

955
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 2: putting your hand around somebody's throat, you know? Like that

956
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:08,840
Speaker 2: does leave some interpretation up to the officials.

957
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 4: I'm not super worried about it, but I don't want

958
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:12,879
Speaker 4: someone to take it too far, like we're gonna review that.

959
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 4: Come on. You know.

960
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 2: That's where I'm with you. I obviously I want technology

961
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 2: to be part of the game, but I don't want

962
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 2: it to take over the game.

963
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:22,760
Speaker 4: Yes, I think that's the bat Like in the chase situation,

964
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 4: it would have absolutely changed the game, you know, right.

965
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 2: I said this to you a few days ago. I

966
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:30,279
Speaker 2: think there's not a lot that sports fans across the

967
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 2: board all agree upon. But I don't care if it's football, baseball, basketball, hockey.

968
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 2: I think everybody wants technology to be a part of

969
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 2: the game. Yeah, they just don't want it to take

970
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:40,279
Speaker 2: over and clunk up the flow of the game. At

971
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 2: the same time, there's a balance there that we're all

972
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 2: looking to strike. Yes, Matt, a couple more teased across

973
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 2: and eyes to dot before we put a bow here

974
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 2: on our number two. The Super Bowl is officially returning

975
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 2: to Las Vegas in twenty twenty nine. Okay, boy, that'll

976
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 2: be that'll be a fun scene. That'll be a fun

977
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:01,400
Speaker 2: scene there in Las Vegas. Also, don't tell anybody I

978
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 2: told you this all right, But I was listening to

979
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 2: some Little Birdies chart last night at at the dinner. Yeah,

980
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 2: it sounds like Nashville in twenty thirty, which, oh boy.

981
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:10,360
Speaker 4: That wouldn't be a bad spot.

982
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:12,280
Speaker 2: It would not be a bad spot. But my goodness,

983
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:15,840
Speaker 2: downtown Nashville is like smaller than downtown Pittsburgh. And wow,

984
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 2: that would be a lot of fun, but a lot

985
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:18,280
Speaker 2: of chaos.

986
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:20,360
Speaker 4: I believe the desteelers are there back to back. You

987
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 4: and I have a good time in Vegas in Nashville, That's.

988
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:26,880
Speaker 2: Exactly we sure will listen when we're on the NFL's

989
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:29,840
Speaker 2: dime and travel schedule. It won't be a problem. We'll

990
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 2: be doing fantastic. Also announced by the Minnesota Vikings, they

991
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:36,240
Speaker 2: are picking up the fifth year option on wide receiver

992
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 2: Jordan Addison.

993
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:41,320
Speaker 4: I thought that was semi debatable, you know, like Naylor

994
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 4: was up for free agency. I thought they might try

995
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 4: to just keep him and let Addison go. Addison's a

996
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 4: good player, He's a really good number two, but he's

997
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 4: very small, and I think he's a slightly overrated player

998
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:58,840
Speaker 4: that benefits so much from Jefferson be on the other side,

999
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:01,919
Speaker 4: and he keeps in the trouble. I mean, this keeps

1000
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 4: getting in trouble over and over and over. Now, fifty

1001
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 4: year option for a guy like him, he's probably is

1002
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:09,720
Speaker 4: not going to a Pro Bowl. Isn't really real breaking

1003
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:12,400
Speaker 4: the back? Yeah, yeah, And I do think the Vikings

1004
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 4: are in it to win it this year with Kyler.

1005
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't think they're taking a step back

1006
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 4: and trying to rebuild or anything. But I didn't know

1007
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 4: if this was a slam dunk.

1008
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:20,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't either.

1009
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:22,720
Speaker 4: I mean, it's always in trouble. That's that's the kicker.

1010
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:25,439
Speaker 2: He's a good number two and you know you used

1011
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 2: the first round pick on him a few years ago.

1012
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 4: But the fifth year option is also different than I'm

1013
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 4: gonna give you a huge contract with a twenty five million.

1014
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 2: And as you mentioned, especially if he was he was

1015
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 2: a later first round pack later first if he hasn't

1016
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 2: hit a lot of those.

1017
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:39,800
Speaker 4: And I don't think he's hit a lot of the

1018
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 4: kickers yet.

1019
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 2: The number probably isn't crazy. It's probably a fair number

1020
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:43,880
Speaker 2: to pay a number two wide receiver.

1021
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1022
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:46,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, And maybe end up if if he walks, if

1023
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 2: he walks the line like Johnny Cash, maybe you end

1024
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:49,880
Speaker 2: up extending him.

1025
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 4: If not, hey get right, he leaves at the end

1026
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 4: of the year, you probably get a compic out of it.

1027
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, that's a good point too. Let's see here

1028
00:43:57,040 --> 00:44:01,320
Speaker 2: Matt Dolphin's GM John Eric Sullivan shut down down any

1029
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 2: potential conversation regarding trade rumors for devon a chain earlier

1030
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:06,440
Speaker 2: this morning.

1031
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 4: Same here in that. But I don't know if I believe.

1032
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 2: It saying that it's a priority for them to extend

1033
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:14,319
Speaker 2: him and there's zero effort to move him.

1034
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:16,879
Speaker 4: Okay, I mean originally when he said that a couple

1035
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 4: of weeks ago, right after the Wattle trade, I just thought, man,

1036
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:22,360
Speaker 4: no one's offered enough yet his style. I mean, running

1037
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 4: backs just don't last in this league, especially tiny ones,

1038
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 4: by the time you're good. Is that a good investment?

1039
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't think.

1040
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:33,759
Speaker 4: I mean, he certainly helps with evaluating Willis, which is

1041
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:36,359
Speaker 4: super important. That's that part is important, right, I mean,

1042
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:38,839
Speaker 4: swing passes to him, and you know, I mean you've.

1043
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 2: Got a sort of competitive is You've got to have

1044
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 2: somebody that can do something for you on that offense.

1045
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:45,760
Speaker 4: And they'll probably draft two good pass catchers, young pass catchers,

1046
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 4: you know, pretty high but still I would think that's

1047
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:49,919
Speaker 4: a piece you want to move.

1048
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:52,399
Speaker 2: And then one of the last things that I think

1049
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 2: we need to discuss here, Matt, because it's not a

1050
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 2: huge story now, but I think in the coming years

1051
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:59,240
Speaker 2: it will be, and that is that the NFL announced

1052
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:04,319
Speaker 2: a partnership with Tomorrow's Sports, the company behind you know

1053
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 2: that Total Golf league that we've seen on ESPN. Sometimes

1054
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 2: it's all the pro golfers that are in the indoor facility,

1055
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 2: Virtual Golf. Yes, Roy Mashlroy does it, Tiger Woods does it,

1056
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 2: like they've got big names.

1057
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 4: We're in Annapolis the time I ever saw it.

1058
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 2: It's the same company that does that. They are developing

1059
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:27,760
Speaker 2: a professional flag football league for both men and women

1060
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 2: that will be backed by all thirty two NFL teams.

1061
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:33,840
Speaker 2: So the NFL partnering with Tomorrow Sports for a pro

1062
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 2: flag football league, Matt. The reason why I think right

1063
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 2: now this doesn't grab a bunch of headlines, remove the needle,

1064
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:43,839
Speaker 2: but it will eventually is because remember a little over

1065
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 2: two years from now, summer of twenty twenty eight, the

1066
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:49,240
Speaker 2: Summer Olympics are in Los Angeles here in the United States,

1067
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 2: and flag football is going to be for the first

1068
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 2: time in Olympics sport. So this, I think is the

1069
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:58,400
Speaker 2: ramp up to that of get people used to it,

1070
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:01,759
Speaker 2: get people interested in it, get NFL players involved to

1071
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 2: see exactly what that looks like, because they are vastly

1072
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:07,759
Speaker 2: different games that are governed differently and played differently. But

1073
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:09,800
Speaker 2: that I just think is important. I think that's something

1074
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:12,320
Speaker 2: that again today is going to grab a bunch of headlines,

1075
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 2: but I think this is the start of potentially something

1076
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 2: that could be substantial in a couple of years.

1077
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, and there was a get together here where Larry

1078
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:23,240
Speaker 4: was in Larry Fitzgerald.

1079
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 2: We ran into your old buddy. That's one of the things.

1080
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 2: And all the fun of yesterday we.

1081
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 4: Forgot right was yesterday right went in together. But yeah,

1082
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:33,439
Speaker 4: he was here promoting that with some other people, and

1083
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 4: I guess it went well. I didn't sit in there,

1084
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Speaker 4: but I did run into Larry before we you know.

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Speaker 2: I thought I thought you would maybe tell you know,

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Speaker 2: I'd heard from you for a long time, how good,

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Speaker 2: how good buddies you are with Larry Fitzgerald and all.

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Speaker 4: This, I don't see him or talk to him on it.

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Speaker 2: Still, wife, wife used to get along and we used

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00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 2: to watch film together. And I'm like, all right, let's

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00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 2: see how how well Larry.

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Speaker 4: Remainers man I'd be received walking down.

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Speaker 2: The hallway and we're maybe twenty yards away from him

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00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 2: and Larry seest and he starts smiling and waving right away.

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Speaker 2: All right, So he wasn't lying, he wasn't exaggerating. They

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Speaker 2: are they are buddies. Yeah, yeah, he was happy to

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Speaker 2: see you. And I think everybody on Twitter and social

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Speaker 2: media got a kick out of how you're the same

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Speaker 2: height as Larry Fitzgerald. Everyone was like, wow, how tal is.

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Speaker 4: Matt That That was kind of odd because the picture

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Speaker 4: you took the pictures and I look a lot taller

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Speaker 4: than them, or notice will be taller than them, and

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Speaker 4: I'm not. And so, like a nerd, I looked up

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Speaker 4: Larry fitzgerald combine measure bents YEP, and he was six

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Speaker 4: h two seven, which is six.

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Speaker 2: Seven eight, so just a shade under six three.

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Speaker 4: Which is exactly what I am. And I'm like, there's

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00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 4: no way I mean that look that. People were like,

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00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 4: that looks like he's six five. I didn't realize what

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Speaker 4: giant I'm not six five. Yeah, it's just a weird picture.

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Speaker 4: I guess or whatever.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, six three and shoes.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but my hair was standing up from wearing a

1114
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 4: headset all day too.

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Speaker 2: Before we got You were always looking at you were

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00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:53,720
Speaker 2: always looking tip top there, Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 4: Oh, but also flag, I want to mention I love

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Speaker 4: that women get to be involved in great sports. I

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Speaker 4: mean yeah, I mean I don't know if one day

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Speaker 4: they'll wear helmets and pads and play this version of

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00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:06,759
Speaker 4: football or not. But it's great that they, you know,

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00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:10,959
Speaker 4: a whole new realm of young women and people are

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Speaker 4: going to be exposed to this in a professional manner.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 2: It's great. Last thing before we get to break into

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Speaker 2: our buddy Alan Saunders of Steelers now to kick off

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Speaker 2: our bonus third hour. I've been keeping an eye on

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Speaker 2: this all day, Matt, because remember Jermad McCoy, cornerback out

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Speaker 2: of Tennessee, OH, one of the more intriguing prospects pro

1130
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Speaker 2: Day in Knoxville in Tennessee. Just within the past hour,

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00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:37,879
Speaker 2: he just ran a four point three eight forty good

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Speaker 2: for thirty eight inch vertical jumbe and a ten to

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00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 2: seven broad jump about a half an hour ago at

1134
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:43,440
Speaker 2: his program.

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Speaker 4: That's more than just checking the boxes of your healthy

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00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I.

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Speaker 2: Mean he probably always was going to be a first rounder,

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Speaker 2: but maybe now in the top ten, top fifteen.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I originally thought maybe he goes to a bad team,

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00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 4: you know, like the Jets that can just wait on

1141
00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:01,360
Speaker 4: him and be the eventual Sauce replacement seventeen or whatever

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Speaker 4: that is. Now, does he challenge the lane to be

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00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 4: cornerback one?

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00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:07,279
Speaker 2: He just might.

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Speaker 4: I mean I think it's not crazy.

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Speaker 2: He just might. Good day, good day for Jama McCoy

1147
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Speaker 2: for sure. It's been a good day for us so far.

1148
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Speaker 2: And when we return, we will kick off our bonus

1149
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:19,839
Speaker 2: hour with our friend Alan Saunders of Steelers. Now we'll

1150
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:22,320
Speaker 2: cover all the moving and shaking here on the grounds

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00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:26,959
Speaker 2: of the Biltmore on this Tuesday with Allen in our

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Speaker 2: number three well shooler Matt Williamson. It is the Drive

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Speaker 2: Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network.