1 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 1: Happy Wednesday. 2 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 2: Everyone. 3 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 3: Welcome to the SWBC Cowboys Cross Talk live on the 4 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 3: Dallas Cowboys Radio Network, Dallascowboys dot Com and all other 5 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 3: associated social media platforms. We are live from the Cowboys 6 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 3: Club at the Star in Frisco. I'm Bobby Belt from 7 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 3: one O five through the Fan in Dallas that is 8 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:06,319 Speaker 3: the radio flagship home of the Dallas Cowboys. Tonight, I'm 9 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 3: joined by dallascowboys dot COM's Patrick Walker. As always, we've 10 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 3: got the three time Super Bowl champion, six time Pro 11 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 3: Bowler Nate Newton, and our special guests this evening. 12 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 1: Is one of the most. 13 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 3: Successful athletes in the history of the state of Texas. 14 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 3: He he won back to back state and listen. Listen 15 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 3: to the resume see if you can dispute it. He 16 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 3: won back to back state championships at West Orange Stark 17 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 3: High School, where he was All State defense and offense 18 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 3: his senior season. He lettered in three other sports during 19 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 3: his time there. He passed on the opportunity to play 20 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 3: receiver at LSU and went to play cornerback for RCI 21 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 3: Slocum and the Texas A and m Aggie's where he 22 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 3: was a three time All Southwestern Conference selection and the 23 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 3: nineteen ninety one All American. He then went on to 24 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 3: be a first round draft pick of the Dallas Cowboys 25 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 3: in nineteen ninety two, and we'll go on to win 26 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 3: three Super Bowl titles, become an All Pro selection, and 27 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 3: he still occupies a large cut of real estate in 28 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 3: Jerry Rice's head. I'm talking about Kevin pop Smith. Kevin, 29 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 3: thank you so much for joining us tonight. 30 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 4: Thank you. I'm with you. 31 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 2: AI. 32 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 5: Is that is. 33 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 2: Intelligence? Man? Say that? 34 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:14,920 Speaker 5: See and listen, man, I saw the man's career. It 35 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 5: was not artificial, but it was intelligence. 36 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 3: Like this is if you want to talk about at 37 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 3: every level of football in the state of Texas. Yes, 38 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 3: West Orange High School, Texas A and M the Dallas Cowboys. Again, 39 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 3: you had the highest individual honors. You have that, you 40 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:33,920 Speaker 3: have the highest team honors possible at you just like 41 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 3: every level of the sport. When when you when you 42 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 3: hear it run through like that, the decorated resume, does it? 43 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 3: Does it ever? Just kind of astound You're like, Man, 44 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 3: I can't believe just how much has occurred or how 45 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 3: much I've gone through throughout my career. 46 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 4: Well, I've never left the state of Texas. You know. 47 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 4: That's that's the good thing. 48 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 6: I grew up in the Houston there of course bow 49 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 6: mouta Orange Texas and uh. And the funny thing about it, 50 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 6: when I first got here with the Cowboys, I was 51 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 6: one hundred and sixty five hundred and seventy five pounds 52 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 6: is the first round draft pick. So when I walked 53 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 6: in the locker room, you know, it was James washing 54 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 6: it in the Nate and Isaac Holt and some of 55 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 6: the guys that were like, you know, in the league. 56 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 6: Awhile they were like, is this our first round draft pick? Jimmy, 57 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:16,519 Speaker 6: what are you doing? And so, you know, so the 58 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:19,239 Speaker 6: one thing about it when you got when I got here, 59 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 6: I learned real fast that you had to buy into 60 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 6: the guys that worked the hardest here, and you had 61 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:27,679 Speaker 6: to buy into the guys that you know, it was Tony. 62 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 4: Tobert and it was Moose Johnson. 63 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:32,239 Speaker 6: I mean you got saw the Netflix, right, and it 64 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 6: was Charle Emmin and Mike Yes and you know a 65 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 6: little bit of Haley. But really and truly the reason 66 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 6: that we were so successful was we had guys like 67 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 6: Kenny Gatt, Bill Bates, Tony Tobert, you know, all these 68 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 6: guys are unsung guys. Myself, Darren Woodson was not even 69 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 6: a person back then. You know, Tony, Tony Casillas and 70 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 6: Leon Lets. Those are the guys that were the reason 71 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 6: we won the Super Bowls because we weren't the star guys, 72 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 6: but we were the guys that matched the effort that 73 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 6: Mike put in, Troy put in him, and of course Nate, 74 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 6: you know he had Nate had his struck weight struggles 75 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 6: and everything else every year, but he finished them one tens, 76 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:17,039 Speaker 6: which was our measuring plate. So it was just great 77 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 6: to be a part of that organization coming from Texas 78 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 6: and m Jackie Errol and R. C. Stompam and winning 79 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 6: state championships went an Orange. So uh, that win is 80 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:29,160 Speaker 6: the only guy can probably say that I know that 81 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 6: played for the Cowboys, played for A and him and 82 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 6: then also played high school football. Then he got a knock. 83 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 6: He's from Vietnam, so he came. He actually got over 84 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 6: here in a strange way. 85 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:42,479 Speaker 3: I know this is this is actually it. We just 86 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:46,720 Speaker 3: talked about how you lettered in three other sports is track, baseball, basketball? Sir, 87 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 3: you obviously played both sides of ball, so you were 88 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:52,920 Speaker 3: a phenomenal athlete. I just found out a piece of 89 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 3: information today that I need verified about eight though, Nate, 90 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 3: is it true that I heard today that in high 91 00:04:58,440 --> 00:04:59,799 Speaker 3: school you were your team's kicker. 92 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:01,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, kicked, you kicked it. 93 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 1: We've got a guy who's a full fledged you were 94 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 1: a kicker. 95 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:09,160 Speaker 2: I did kicking. 96 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 4: Hold on this question, Nate, Butter Newton from Butter Pat, 97 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:19,279 Speaker 4: let me hold are you Patrick? Okay? 98 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 6: So you might be old enough to know, Nate, you 99 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 6: kicked with that black shoe with the string. 100 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:32,599 Speaker 2: I wasn't. I wasn't square tone, but did you were? 101 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 4: You? 102 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:35,839 Speaker 7: You are a part of the original record crew. So 103 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 7: the record crew name actually a couple of years before me. 104 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:46,840 Speaker 7: Chet Brooks, who you may know, what's his name? Uh, 105 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 7: I'm blank on it played before the Niners guy got hurt. Yeah, 106 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:55,280 Speaker 7: but those guys were the original record crew. I came 107 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 7: in about two years after they had started it. And 108 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 7: then but we we. 109 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:03,280 Speaker 6: We had a little bit more speed and talent on 110 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:09,159 Speaker 6: the edge, and so John Roper, Aaron Wallace, bro you know, 111 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:15,040 Speaker 6: came along and that that became the true recond crew. 112 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:17,840 Speaker 4: But it started a little bit with Check Brooks and uh. 113 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 2: You'll get it when you get it. Just it out, man, 114 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 2: what you. 115 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 6: Got for on Jeff Fuller, Yes, Sir Jeff Fuller, Jeff. 116 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 8: Got My question first and foremost is I mean, this 117 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 8: is a man who excelled in multiple positions, right, so 118 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:39,839 Speaker 8: when you look at it from from your standpoint, looking 119 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:42,599 Speaker 8: at it from a more recentcy standpoint, my question is 120 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 8: why do you think in nowadays, in today's NFL there 121 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 8: are fewer players that are not necessarily able because I 122 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:51,279 Speaker 8: think the level of athleticism allows certain players to be 123 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 8: able to pull what the Travis Hunter is doing. 124 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 5: Why do you think not many players try to do 125 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 5: that anymore? 126 00:06:55,680 --> 00:07:00,359 Speaker 8: It seems like after after prime may playing both ways. 127 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 6: It's enough, man, it's you know, just the preparation on it. 128 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:09,160 Speaker 6: Trying to figure out the tendencies on both sides of 129 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 6: the ball. It's hard enough to figure out it on 130 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 6: one side of the ball. You know, to figure out 131 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 6: what your receiver opponent. If I'm a dB, who I'm 132 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 6: covering that day, to cover him for sixty or seventy 133 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 6: eighty plays down in distance, you know, big tendencies, what 134 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 6: they're trying to do. And then I'm trying to jump 135 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 6: on offense. You know, I could be a special guy 136 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 6: on offense, meaning a few plays, but you can't. I 137 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 6: don't really think there's no one in Nate knows this. 138 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 6: There's no one that can actually master playing both sides 139 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 6: of the ball one hundred and twenty plays. Not in 140 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 6: the NFL. You're not gonna last long. You know, You're 141 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 6: just not if you really want to hit away or one. 142 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 6: You know, just like my guy Mike Evans other day, 143 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 6: it's all been an iron man for years. He's a 144 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 6: deep ball post. He lands on his show, breaks his collar, 145 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 6: bame he's out for. 146 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 7: And a serious serious concussion. A concussion, yes serious, You 147 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 7: just don't know what you're one play away. 148 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 6: So you know, to play one hundred and twenty plays 149 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 6: or even eighty plays a game. You know, you just 150 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 6: asking too much of them, especially that young player. But 151 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 6: it's just really the preparation and being prepared to actually 152 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 6: do it, not the fiscal. 153 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 4: Part of it. 154 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, we're talking Kevin Smith here on Cowboys Cross Talk. 155 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 2: Make go ahead. We was here for prime and. 156 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 7: First of all, and I'm not your prime is the greatest. 157 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 7: You got to be a supreme athlete first, that's first, 158 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:44,719 Speaker 7: and second, you got to have a supreme thought process. 159 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 7: Because Prime had them figured out what routes you can 160 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 7: run and what situation. Pump did too. They figured out, 161 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 7: oh yeah he got here on the hash, he can't 162 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 7: run us. So many things because they were man corners, 163 00:08:56,920 --> 00:09:00,679 Speaker 7: true man corners, not knowing we gonna fake. We walking 164 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 7: up there and getting your grill. So now you can play. 165 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 7: If you a true man corner, you can probably go 166 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 7: on the other side for a few snaps. 167 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 2: But if you zoning up and all this got to know, 168 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 2: Yeah you over there? Yeah yeah, what was that? 169 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 3: And in general you you guys, we were man corners. 170 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 3: What was kind of the the defensive philosophy under Jimmy 171 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 3: that you guys played. And then obviously as the years 172 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 3: progressed and we were basically. 173 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 4: As it comes, man We ran. 174 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 6: We ran four up front, three linebackers, and we ran 175 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:35,679 Speaker 6: what they called corners, which is corners. 176 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 4: Was basically man the man. 177 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 6: Dan Woodson and James Washington lined up about eight yards 178 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 6: from the line of scrimmage and they we protected the 179 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 6: posts on the corner and they protected the run. They 180 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 6: told us we didn't have help on that corner. You 181 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 6: I'm on the post. You had to protect the post. Uh, 182 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:56,320 Speaker 6: there's two things in football that if you don't protect 183 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 6: the post, you're gonna get cut rush. 184 00:09:58,920 --> 00:09:59,079 Speaker 2: Right. 185 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 6: Yeah, you don't pay your taxes because you play well, 186 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 6: you're playing every state. People don't know this. We played 187 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 6: in every state, and you gotta pay taxes in every 188 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 6: state if they got to stay tax A lot of 189 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 6: guys didn't know that remember that day. But the point 190 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 6: is is that we played just a basic defense and 191 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 6: then when we when we try to get to fancy, 192 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 6: when we try to do some fancy things and it 193 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 6: didn't work, the next week, we went straight back to 194 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 6: basic defense. We call it switch. I forgot what they 195 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 6: called it up front base switch, and that was the coverages. 196 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 6: And if it was a cumbination coveragship, it was twins 197 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:36,560 Speaker 6: one way, we ran three. If it was a balanced coverage, 198 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 6: we ran switch. So we ran man and man with 199 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 6: so coverages underneath with our linebackers. 200 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 8: So do you think that, I mean, obviously, offenses are 201 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 8: so much more complex, especially with analytics and how they operate, 202 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 8: so to a degree, defenses nowadays have to kind of 203 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:55,439 Speaker 8: met serve. But there is a lot of talk about 204 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 8: some defenses and some defensive coordinators that kind of overthinking 205 00:10:58,320 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 8: they over scheme. 206 00:10:59,040 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 5: Do you think that's the case. 207 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 6: I think they over scheme from the standpoint of when 208 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:06,080 Speaker 6: they blitz packages. 209 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 4: And then what happens is the rules have changed. 210 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 6: Right now, if you look at the NFL, when the 211 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:15,959 Speaker 6: big plays happen, it's a lot of pick routes, and 212 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 6: I think they're officiating that change to the point to 213 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:22,440 Speaker 6: where they can where we would be able to hold 214 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 6: a guy and grab a guy. I wouldn't let nobody 215 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 6: pick them, but now they call them. It's almost like 216 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 6: if you watch the game, it's like every other play 217 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 6: someone's injured or is a penalty flag. It's like the 218 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 6: games are just stretched so long because you know, I'm 219 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 6: not saying the referees are favoring on one team or another, 220 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 6: but it just it just kills. 221 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 4: The game that they're not allowing them to play as much. 222 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 6: But it gives the offense and advantage because the defensive 223 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 6: backs the rough routes, you can't hold on to a guy, 224 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 6: you got to go run around it. So that pick route, 225 00:11:57,720 --> 00:11:59,959 Speaker 6: if it's not called, then that's why you see guys 226 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 6: rounded up to sidelines catches. 227 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 2: It's geared for the offense. 228 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 1: Let's take our first break of the day. 229 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 3: When we come back, I want to leave you just 230 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:15,080 Speaker 3: with a quick question because you talk about how defenses 231 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 3: scheme things up differently today if it's over scheme. There's 232 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 3: been a lot of discussion obviously about man coverage here 233 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 3: in Dallas, and then they played a lot more this 234 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 3: past weekend, and we'll get into some of the specifics 235 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 3: of the game, but I'm curious and then something for 236 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 3: you to think on while we're in the break. If 237 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 3: you guys were able to play simpler coverages because of 238 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:34,440 Speaker 3: the talent that you had, and if you've got lesser parts, 239 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 3: do you need to start steaming up a little bit 240 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:37,680 Speaker 3: more of that? 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Visit SWBC dot com to learn more and 247 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 3: start next at bender Welcome back to the Cowboys Club 248 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 3: at the start and first store for the SLBBC Cowboys 249 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 3: crosstalk We're coming to you live on the Dallas Cowboys 250 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 3: Radio Network, Dallas Cowboys dot Com and all other associated 251 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 3: social media platforms. I'm Bobby Belt from one O five 252 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 3: through the fan. I've got Dallas Cowboys dot COM's Patrick 253 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 3: Walker here with me. As always, We've got the three 254 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 3: time Super Bowl champ, six time Pro Bowler Nate Newton. 255 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 3: Our Cowys alumni this evening is three time Super Bowl 256 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 3: champ and All Pro Kevin Smith. 257 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 1: Kevin, thank you for joining us. 258 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 3: And before we jump back into some of the discussion 259 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 3: we're having, I know you guys had a cool event 260 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 3: last weekend at the game. 261 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 1: It was an alumni day. 262 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 2: A lot of careers from. 263 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 3: Sixties, just every decade over there and I'm sure you 264 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 3: guys got to see some friends you hadn't seen a while. 265 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 5: How was that experience? 266 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 6: It was unbelievable because, uh, my father was a diehood 267 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 6: Cowboy fan and Bob Hayes is number one, uh person 268 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 6: in the world. You know, Bob bullis bullet. Hayes ran 269 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 6: the Olympics, Florida and m and so my father never 270 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 6: really watched me play football in person. He always listened 271 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 6: to the game on the radio. So one of the 272 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:04,640 Speaker 6: first games when I got drafted in ninety two, he 273 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 6: came to a game and Mike Tyson had a fight 274 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 6: and we at the Cowboy Cafe. They and it was 275 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 6: a Friday night and he met Bob Bullet Hayes and 276 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 6: it just made that just the world. And my father 277 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 6: only watched me play one Cowboy game in person and 278 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:22,639 Speaker 6: one A and M game in person because he always 279 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 6: even the Super Bowls. But so all the Cowboy guys 280 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 6: like Cliff Harris, Bob Brunick, Fitzgerald, Mark Washington, I. 281 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 4: Saw this weekend. 282 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:35,640 Speaker 6: Uh, you know these got Preston Pearson was there and 283 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:37,479 Speaker 6: looking the best in the world. I thought he had 284 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 6: makeup on because you know he's pressing his eighty something. 285 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:44,160 Speaker 4: I mean, these guys were just remarkable. 286 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 6: And the one thing I tell the young Cowboys is 287 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 6: you got to know your history. You know, it's like 288 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 6: picking up that that edge blocker. You know, you don't 289 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 6: walk past Tony dr Sat, you don't walk past Bob Brunick. 290 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 6: You know, how you doing, mister fitz Jerrold, how you doing, 291 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:01,679 Speaker 6: mister Harrison. I'm Kevin Smith or I remember you, but no, 292 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:04,639 Speaker 6: I know you. That's the respect in the history that 293 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 6: it knows that that I don't think the young guys 294 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 6: understand because it's a lot of statues out there, and 295 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 6: I world up today and it's a lot of thirty 296 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:16,400 Speaker 6: foot digs. 297 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:19,200 Speaker 4: And these guys hadn't won Super Bowls. 298 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:22,399 Speaker 6: When I got to the Cowboys, the only statues I 299 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 6: saw was Bob Lily and Roger start of that and 300 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:31,199 Speaker 6: Drew Pearson. Those guys had established and won things. And 301 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:34,120 Speaker 6: I know the market is great, Jerry, but sometime when 302 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:37,160 Speaker 6: these guys drive to work and they see they thirty foot, 303 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 6: you know, they can have a terrible game. And when 304 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 6: they drive into work, I see it's thirty foot billboard. 305 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 6: You know, that's not sublimately, That's not the thing I 306 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 6: grew up on, you know. And I've seen guys walk 307 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 6: in the room and see a running back, walk in 308 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 6: the room and see Tony door Set and not go 309 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 6: speak to him. No, stop what you're doing and go 310 00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 6: speak to Tony door Set. But I think this weekend 311 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 6: was the first time they did decades of legends, yes, 312 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 6: and it just put all of us together. From the 313 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 6: sixties through the twenty twenties. Vander Rich was there, and 314 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:14,399 Speaker 6: Brady James and you know, and these guys. 315 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 4: Hat Big Hatcher. 316 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 6: Was there in the nineties, guys, and you know, guys 317 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 6: gravitated to each other, but it was also great for 318 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 6: us to go talk to the older guys and meet 319 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 6: some of the guys that played after us. 320 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:29,639 Speaker 3: How how big has that been because I think you 321 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:31,400 Speaker 3: listened to some of the older cowboys. I think Drew 322 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:34,640 Speaker 3: said this before, where he's like, you know, early on 323 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 3: we felt we felt kind of a disconnect. When when 324 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 3: Jerry took over, we felt like our decade and then 325 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:40,919 Speaker 3: the present day there was kind of a disconnect. And 326 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 3: Drew's like, he's done a lot to like repair it 327 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:45,920 Speaker 3: and then and to bring us back around. And now 328 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 3: with Brian Schottenheimer here, it feels like Shoty's really trying 329 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:52,680 Speaker 3: to emphasize making sure you understand who kind of laid 330 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 3: the foundation. I know, shot he was giddy a couple 331 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:57,359 Speaker 3: weeks back he got to meet Roger Stalbach for the 332 00:19:57,359 --> 00:19:59,360 Speaker 3: first time and then it was like a kid out there. 333 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:01,919 Speaker 3: But is that so thing that specifically you think like 334 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 3: at this point in time, that's about as healthy as 335 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:07,920 Speaker 3: a relationship as the organization has had with just all 336 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:08,919 Speaker 3: of its history. 337 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:11,919 Speaker 4: Because he was a part of that transition, yeah, the 338 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:12,680 Speaker 4: coaching change. 339 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:16,680 Speaker 7: Yeah, Yeah, a lot of guys felt left out man. 340 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:22,679 Speaker 7: But when Coach Shottenheimer and Emily Robinson Cruz put this 341 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 7: thing together, like wow, it's spent twenty thirty years man, 342 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 7: that we we really got together and it was about 343 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:31,160 Speaker 7: the players. 344 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 4: It was, you know, a brief moment. 345 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 7: I've been talking to a couple of the guys now 346 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 7: who prepared this to make it even better. 347 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 2: If we do it next year, it'll be a bigger program, you. 348 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 7: Know, because it was for guys that played for us 349 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:47,439 Speaker 7: for six years. Yeah, six Yeah, So we missed a 350 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 7: lot of horses, man, because you know, I told like 351 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 7: four or five guys they just. 352 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 2: Only played four years, and they're like, man, they leaving 353 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 2: me out. 354 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 7: And what I'm creating right, So now I'm telling them, hey, 355 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 7: at least got to be Ford, the guy played for 356 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 7: giving him a shot of coming back. And because this 357 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 7: thing can be big, it can be big for the fans. 358 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 7: I'm to believe. I'm working on it by the clothes 359 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 7: to make this thing way bigger than what it is, man. 360 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 2: And uh, that. 361 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 7: Way, maybe these young guys can see how it's supposed 362 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:22,440 Speaker 7: to be done, get some idea. I ain't talking about 363 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 7: players coming back walking on the field to my way 364 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 7: play come hold dog, come hold doll. You stabbing folks 365 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 7: in the throat and everything. I can't do that now, 366 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:32,439 Speaker 7: you know, But. 367 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 5: I mean both both. You guys make an excellent point. 368 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 8: I think that you know, whether it be in life, 369 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 8: for football or whatever the case may be, there needs 370 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 8: to be this constant thread that connects the present to 371 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 8: the past, because you know, that's how you get a 372 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 8: lot of information exchange in the wisdom that, like you 373 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 8: guys already know how to navigate certain situations both on 374 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:53,680 Speaker 8: and off the field. That's that's priceless information that if 375 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 8: the young guys tap in with you guys, that you'd be. 376 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 5: More than willing to impart upon them. 377 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 8: So but then at the same time, when they're talking 378 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,200 Speaker 8: to guys like Natean, they're talking to guys like Puffy, 379 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 8: and they're talking to some of these these legends from 380 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:08,400 Speaker 8: the nineties who have jewelry, they start to also understand 381 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:11,680 Speaker 8: the standard, right, So it's easier to understand the standard 382 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 8: when the standard is standing next to you having a 383 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 8: conversation with you. 384 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:15,400 Speaker 4: Yeah. 385 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:18,880 Speaker 6: And the thing about it, man, what's the most amazing 386 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 6: Because Emily was with us, we went upstairs and I 387 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:22,400 Speaker 6: was with Leon letting. 388 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 4: Of course, Charles was there in his mouth and yeah, 389 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:30,479 Speaker 4: but but I can't believe it. 390 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:33,680 Speaker 6: But the thing about it was, we were we were 391 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 6: just talking about how simple it was we were. 392 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:36,879 Speaker 4: And Nate knows this. 393 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 6: We were in dorm rooms in makeshift uh what they 394 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:45,439 Speaker 6: call them, little units, the little window units. I mean 395 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:48,359 Speaker 6: the last time the Cowboys won the Super Bowl, my 396 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:53,879 Speaker 6: meeting room in training camp was a hunt yeah, with 397 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:56,679 Speaker 6: the window in it when the window unit in it 398 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 6: in the back of the door. 399 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 7: The Catholic sanctuary, Yes, yeah, yeah, I mean we didn't 400 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:05,880 Speaker 7: have the fancy hotel and the nice weather in Oxnard. 401 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,920 Speaker 6: We were in one hundred degree weather and we were 402 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 6: in Saint AD's And I think they had mold in 403 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 6: those dorms because I struggled every every summer, I struggled 404 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 6: with asthma. But I had they had a pump from me. 405 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 6: But it doesn't take a whole lot. It just takes chemistry, camaradity, 406 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 6: guys that really care and love each other. 407 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 4: And that's what we had. Ny. 408 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 6: We had a group of guys that really bought into 409 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 6: each other and the guys that didn't. When I got here, 410 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:36,640 Speaker 6: you had the guys that said they played like they 411 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:40,440 Speaker 6: were professional football players. They dressed the part, they went 412 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:42,879 Speaker 6: to the club and all that, But that wasn't the 413 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 6: guy to follow. The guy that we followed with a 414 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:47,639 Speaker 6: guy that was on the practice field, in the in 415 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:51,120 Speaker 6: the weight room. And because Moose said it best, we 416 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:54,919 Speaker 6: were good because the best guys worked the hardest and 417 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 6: that's why we were so good. 418 00:23:56,640 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, we talked to little bit about in 419 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:03,679 Speaker 3: the last segment playing more man coverage and some of 420 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:04,879 Speaker 3: the things they did. And then that was something you 421 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 3: said that your team did a lot of. I think 422 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 3: I'm trying to remember the exact numbers. I believe on 423 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,399 Speaker 3: the roster when you guys won the first Super Bowl 424 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:17,479 Speaker 3: there were twenty seven players who either had been a 425 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:19,360 Speaker 3: pro bowler at one point in their career or would 426 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 3: go on to become a pro bowler at some point 427 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:22,880 Speaker 3: in the career. Twenty seven players on the roster, which 428 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:26,160 Speaker 3: is just an absurd amount. So when you guys play 429 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 3: that level and you guys clearly have a lot of talent, 430 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 3: is it easier for you guys to say, well, well, 431 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:32,440 Speaker 3: we can line up with teams like that because of 432 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 3: the type of talent that we had you're gonna have 433 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 3: to play a little bit more zone if you've got 434 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 3: some areas of deficiency or you're trying to mask some things, 435 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:41,160 Speaker 3: or is it just like no, you know what live 436 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 3: and die by? Can you execute? Go out there, playman coverage? 437 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 3: How do you look at that? 438 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 6: Well, we we won a lot, because that's why when 439 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 6: you win, you get pro bowlers, right, Yeah, So that's 440 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:55,439 Speaker 6: an easy equation. But we had a mentality that we 441 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 6: were going to take the wheel of the other team, 442 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 6: and we challenge each other, and they challenge us. Nate 443 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 6: would be in practice challenging me about Chris Carter the 444 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 6: next week. You know what you're gonna do, Chris, Chris Carter. 445 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 6: I'm like, what you're gonna do about Reggie White? If 446 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 6: you coming down, we get it toss. You know what 447 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 6: you're gonna do about throwing brown before you know rest? Yeah, yeah, 448 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 6: you know what you're gonna do about them? Nate, don't 449 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 6: worry about me. So we challenge each other every week, 450 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:27,679 Speaker 6: and again we didn't know how good we were. You know, 451 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 6: Jimmy had us we were. We thought we could run 452 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 6: through the wall, and every guy tried to match. You know, 453 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 6: we had this deal Nate. Remember this. We call it 454 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 6: the milk truck. And if beat beat beat, if someone 455 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 6: said beat beat beat to you, that means you weren't 456 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 6: carrying your weight. 457 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,399 Speaker 4: That means you were on the milk truck. And it 458 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:46,680 Speaker 4: was you. 459 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:48,439 Speaker 2: It was the BFL. 460 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 7: The garbage, remember the garbage and you here go when 461 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 7: it's lifting up there. 462 00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:59,919 Speaker 2: It was the bunfl garge truck. I remember. 463 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 6: And subliminately, So the way we got our paychecks back 464 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 6: then was that I'm sure they had direct deposits, but 465 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 6: Nate knows this. We had to walk through the coach's offices, 466 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 6: right past our coordinators, past Jimmy's office, through Jerry's office, 467 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:20,359 Speaker 6: and then in the back room was a guy that 468 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 6: I forgot his name. 469 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 4: He would have hand you your. 470 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 6: Check right so then you had to walk back. So 471 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:30,159 Speaker 6: if you had a bad game that week, if. 472 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:38,360 Speaker 7: That coordinated, yeah, Nate, yea nice check. 473 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 6: Subliminately, Jimmy did that. He made us have to you 474 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,479 Speaker 6: picked up that check. You you had to earn it. 475 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,359 Speaker 6: You know, it wasn't directed posit. It wasn't that easy. 476 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 4: And we did. 477 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 6: I did that for nine years day because I was 478 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 6: now you had to pick your check up and so 479 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 6: that was just some of us. You had to perform. 480 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 6: You had a bad game, you didn't walk through the 481 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:06,360 Speaker 6: confidence go and pick that check up. 482 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 4: So you know, you had to. 483 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 6: Come back and practice or you had to come back 484 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,199 Speaker 6: in the next week in that game and redeem yourself 485 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 6: because you had to answer to not only your teammates, 486 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 6: but to the organization. 487 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 8: Was there every time that you you came off of 488 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,440 Speaker 8: a bad day at the office as far as game wise, 489 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 8: and you kind of held off a couple of days 490 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:24,440 Speaker 8: on kicking up that shit. 491 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 4: I left some checks over. You would leave the check there. 492 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:30,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know it's gonna be that. 493 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:32,719 Speaker 6: It's gonna be there. You would leave the check. It's 494 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 6: slight shimmer for a second, you said it would. You 495 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:37,680 Speaker 6: would leave that check there. 496 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:43,160 Speaker 7: And the thing is, Jimmy had full control, so he 497 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 7: did not draft a player that did not fit what 498 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:52,920 Speaker 7: he wanted exactly. That's why I don't understand how we 499 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:56,919 Speaker 7: got this, how it becomes a discrepancy with coaches. You 500 00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:59,439 Speaker 7: always hear Bobby, You've been working me forever, and the 501 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 7: first thing you hear me say is won't these guys. 502 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:05,359 Speaker 2: At least do what this man act? 503 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 7: At least don't rebel until you try it, you know, 504 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:13,440 Speaker 7: because he's under fire. 505 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:14,399 Speaker 2: You under fire. 506 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 7: You know, we got the media one hundred thousand more 507 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,879 Speaker 7: media members, so you gotta a torn you know what 508 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 7: I'm saying. So and another thing, it's called ability alignment. 509 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 7: You know, if you know you slower than that guy, 510 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:32,479 Speaker 7: why you why you pressing? 511 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 4: Yeah? 512 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know. I Hope was a press corner. 513 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 7: I'll play with I co old when he was young, 514 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 7: when Pup came, Puck had Pup had what we call 515 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 7: new speed. 516 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 2: You know, he You wasn't gonna run away from it. 517 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 2: It's just one thing the album. 518 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 7: Well, I realized that this kid had this new speed. Well, Ike, 519 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 7: you know you kind of back up because I'm telling you. 520 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 7: I remember we was playing the forty nine ers and 521 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 7: Jerry saw Ike own him and Jerry did this, just 522 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 7: took off. 523 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 2: And man by his lads got. 524 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 7: Jimmy say put that boy popping now and don't let him. 525 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 2: Come out, and he started every since. Man. 526 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 1: Oh, that is the voice of Nate Newton. Kevin Smith 527 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:17,960 Speaker 1: with us tonight. 528 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 2: I love Hope. 529 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 3: My boy Patrick Walker from DWAs Cowboys Dot was with 530 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 3: us as well. This is the SWBC Cowboys Crosstalk. When 531 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 3: we come back, We're gonna take our second break when 532 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 3: we come back. Let's talk a little bit about that 533 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 3: game on Sunday, the Cowboys get a big victory over 534 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 3: Washington and a little bit later we'll look ahead to Denver. 535 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 3: That's next on the SLBBC Cowboys Crosstalk. 536 00:29:46,480 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 9: Cowboys Polls, don't cowboards? 537 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 1: Heuse what the pros use. 538 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 3: Jack Black is the official men skin care brand of 539 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:55,040 Speaker 3: the Dallas Cowboys. 540 00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 1: Does it get Jack Black dot Com? 541 00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:57,560 Speaker 5: Today? 542 00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:59,600 Speaker 3: Welcome back to the Cowboys Club at the at Star 543 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 3: Frisco for the SLBBC Cowboys Crosshawk coming to you live 544 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,040 Speaker 3: on the Dallas Cowboys Ready a Network, Dallas Cowboys dot 545 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,880 Speaker 3: Com and all other associated social media platforms. I'm Bobby 546 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 3: Belt from one O five foot Fan. We've got Patrick 547 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 3: Walker from Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Nate Newton Cowboys great 548 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 3: here with us and our Cowboys alumni. This evening is 549 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 3: none other than Kevin Smith. 550 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:17,240 Speaker 2: Thank you. 551 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 3: And every week it doesn't matter how bleak things look. 552 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 3: I know that when I throw it to Nate for 553 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,040 Speaker 3: a prediction today, what's the score gonna be. 554 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:29,280 Speaker 2: One? 555 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:31,760 Speaker 3: We're gonna We're gonna get him by one. We got 556 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 3: you got him by more than that. On Sunday when 557 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 3: the Washington Commanders came to down Dallas with a forty 558 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:40,440 Speaker 3: four to twenty two victory, A uh, not only a 559 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 3: big victor if you just want to talk about statement 560 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,240 Speaker 3: wins within the division and a team that when you 561 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 3: looked at the schedule at the beginning of the year, 562 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 3: you probably did not peg that as a victory right 563 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:52,720 Speaker 3: out of the gate, but a really big time convincing 564 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:55,200 Speaker 3: performance from the offense and a good response from the 565 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:59,480 Speaker 3: defense after a couple weeks of real tough pr for 566 00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:00,440 Speaker 3: that unit. 567 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:02,240 Speaker 1: Uh, kick things off. 568 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 3: You guys were both in attendance, Kevin, what did you 569 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 3: think in general about this game and how they performed? 570 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,759 Speaker 6: The offense took the ball down the field the first drive, 571 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,440 Speaker 6: gott an end zone, and from that that point on, 572 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:15,880 Speaker 6: it just that was the energy that all they that 573 00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:21,279 Speaker 6: they needed. Washings banged up big time, but uh, Dak 574 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,359 Speaker 6: is probably the best player in the league right now. 575 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,440 Speaker 6: I mean, that's putting the ball on the spot. You know, 576 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 6: CD coming back the running game. You know we're not 577 00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:33,640 Speaker 6: those we don't turn the ball over. And you know 578 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:36,440 Speaker 6: we got the best kicker in the game, but we 579 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:37,920 Speaker 6: don't want to rely on field goals. 580 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 4: We do have the best kicker in the game, but 581 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:43,640 Speaker 4: do you see what he just said, but we don't 582 00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:44,400 Speaker 4: want to rely on that. 583 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,080 Speaker 2: You do you see what champions say? 584 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:49,480 Speaker 7: He said, we got the best kicking the game without 585 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:51,440 Speaker 7: we do not want. 586 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:55,800 Speaker 3: To Shottenheimer said it a couple of weeks ago, he said, 587 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,640 Speaker 3: he acknowledged he was like, you love having the weapon 588 00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,719 Speaker 3: you need to make you're you're guarding against. Am I 589 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,200 Speaker 3: too comfortable calling stuff here? Because I'm just like, yeah, 590 00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 3: we got the points, right, and like, like you do 591 00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:07,839 Speaker 3: have to guard against making sure all right, don't feel 592 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:09,400 Speaker 3: comfortable just because you got the kicker. Let's try to 593 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 3: let's try to score touchdowns. 594 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:14,000 Speaker 6: Right, Yeah, but we scored touchdowns this week and then yes, 595 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:17,840 Speaker 6: we had a defensive touchdown. We're playing so the defense 596 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:22,440 Speaker 6: showed up. Everything was clicking right, and it didn't. It 597 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:26,240 Speaker 6: wasn't that Washington wasn't playing real bad. The Cowboys played 598 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:31,360 Speaker 6: good football. Yeah, but do you consistency? That's the word 599 00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,880 Speaker 6: week week after week. Did you get that? Is that 600 00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:37,600 Speaker 6: the same team that's going to show up in Denver? 601 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:41,400 Speaker 6: Denver next week, and Nate will tell you this. We 602 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:43,680 Speaker 6: were going to run and sometime we needed a game 603 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:46,880 Speaker 6: to kick us in the butt to you know, so 604 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:50,719 Speaker 6: we know, hey, we're doing too much. But this we 605 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,160 Speaker 6: hadn't seen that over the last eight to ten years. 606 00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 6: Can the Cowboys put four or five or six in 607 00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:56,439 Speaker 6: a row? 608 00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:57,040 Speaker 2: Yeah? 609 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:02,040 Speaker 4: Yeah again, Yeah, tell them what doing too much? 610 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:09,879 Speaker 2: Tell them? I just asked, did y'all know cut off? 611 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:12,160 Speaker 6: No, no, no, you got it from me on that they 612 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:14,319 Speaker 6: do it too much. It's really it was some of 613 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:20,279 Speaker 6: that Netflix stuff y'all saw. Yeah, when you get troys 614 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:23,040 Speaker 6: to say it the best. We can't get too high 615 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:26,160 Speaker 6: and never get too low. But if you get too high, 616 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:30,600 Speaker 6: you know, start riding that way, you know, because after 617 00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:32,120 Speaker 6: every victory you want to go out and have. 618 00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:34,560 Speaker 4: A good time. You want to have a good time, 619 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,239 Speaker 4: and guys do it. And we did it. We we 620 00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:38,560 Speaker 4: we had a good time. 621 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:39,640 Speaker 2: You got too high. 622 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:41,440 Speaker 4: We we all got. 623 00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:42,800 Speaker 5: To between the lines. 624 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:47,000 Speaker 3: Yeah there there there they What they're saying is that 625 00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:49,160 Speaker 3: their confidence got a little too high. 626 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:50,440 Speaker 2: Clean it up. 627 00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:52,719 Speaker 1: Between up. 628 00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:02,120 Speaker 3: Football game on Sunday, Cowboys getting a big victory over 629 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:05,480 Speaker 3: over Washington. In general, your your thought so much, you 630 00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:07,200 Speaker 3: saw run game bounce back in a big way this week. 631 00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,839 Speaker 7: Yes, sir, that's what we that that will have to 632 00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:15,440 Speaker 7: carry us, that protects the defense, that protects that and uh, 633 00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:19,600 Speaker 7: it's gonna have to flourish that way. I'm not I 634 00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:25,400 Speaker 7: keep it real. Good victory, Uh, good team victory and 635 00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,400 Speaker 7: I leave it at that because what you fin the 636 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:29,279 Speaker 7: face coming up? 637 00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:31,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, it is for real. 638 00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:35,399 Speaker 3: So serious. It's it's been a long time. We talked about, 639 00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,600 Speaker 3: it's been a long time since there's been a Super 640 00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:41,919 Speaker 3: Bowl victory around these parts. The wild thing, the most 641 00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:44,440 Speaker 3: wild stats we headed this week is the Cowboys have 642 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:46,440 Speaker 3: won a Super Bowl more recently than they've beaten the 643 00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:49,279 Speaker 3: Denver Broncos. Yeah, they beat the Broncos that same year, 644 00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:52,080 Speaker 3: ninety five. That may have been weak two, that may 645 00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:55,360 Speaker 3: have been after the Giants opener that that year. And 646 00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:57,040 Speaker 3: in fact, the last time they beat Denver on the 647 00:37:57,120 --> 00:38:00,600 Speaker 3: road was ninety two. It was the ninety regular season 648 00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:04,160 Speaker 3: when Tommy Maddox and the Virginia quarterbacks and they were 649 00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:05,759 Speaker 3: in there alternating like every. 650 00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:06,880 Speaker 4: Snap every series. 651 00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:08,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, So it's been it's been a long time. 652 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,560 Speaker 3: So you're right, this is gonna be a big test 653 00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:15,120 Speaker 3: here and obviously Sean Payton on the other sideline. There's 654 00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:16,920 Speaker 3: a lot of meaning to this game, coming to this one, 655 00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:20,120 Speaker 3: but taking care of business right there in a week 656 00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:24,120 Speaker 3: where a lot of criticism on the defense and a 657 00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:28,080 Speaker 3: lot of criticism on coaching decisions, and why did you 658 00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:28,520 Speaker 3: do this here? 659 00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:29,520 Speaker 1: Why did this look so flat? 660 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,759 Speaker 3: I'm curious about one thing from both of you, because 661 00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,000 Speaker 3: this is something that I've seen this season that I 662 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,920 Speaker 3: find fascinating. The Cowboys in this game, in particular, and 663 00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,279 Speaker 3: in a couple other games here, have shown an ability 664 00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:43,680 Speaker 3: to score quickly at the end of the first half 665 00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,040 Speaker 3: on a couple of different occasions. Green Bay they scored 666 00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,400 Speaker 3: two touchdowns in the final minute. Jets two touchdowns in 667 00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:50,719 Speaker 3: the final minute. They in a flash, get done. The 668 00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,560 Speaker 3: think get sacked. I think previous coaching steps here, the 669 00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:56,160 Speaker 3: last three of them probably are are kneeling it after 670 00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:58,440 Speaker 3: the sack. They don't. They push the ball down the field. 671 00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:00,560 Speaker 3: Pickens makes the great catch, Javon with the run. 672 00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:01,719 Speaker 2: What is it? 673 00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:04,919 Speaker 3: Do you think about those situations though, those one minute 674 00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,440 Speaker 3: situations that they've got this comfort level right now in 675 00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:09,359 Speaker 3: this play calling groove right now that it's like we 676 00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:12,480 Speaker 3: can comfortably move down the field in seventy yards in 677 00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:14,399 Speaker 3: forty five seconds and not be concerned with it. 678 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:19,960 Speaker 6: Well, I think you can be aggressive in a stupid 679 00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,719 Speaker 6: way or you can be aggressive in a calm way. 680 00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,560 Speaker 6: And I think what the Cowboys are doing is that 681 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,440 Speaker 6: it's all about possessions. It's about you know, I'm in 682 00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:29,960 Speaker 6: the yards can you gain? If you get the yards 683 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,479 Speaker 6: on first down or second down, then you can try 684 00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,799 Speaker 6: something else. But you just can't be you can't go 685 00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:38,120 Speaker 6: for it on fourth down all the time, you know 686 00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:40,360 Speaker 6: what I'm saying. So I think what we're doing is 687 00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:44,319 Speaker 6: that shot is I think he's doing a great job 688 00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:48,600 Speaker 6: of really managing the game and knowing that you got 689 00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:51,399 Speaker 6: that kicker. See, the problem with teams are that they 690 00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:53,160 Speaker 6: know if you get the ball to the fifty yard line, 691 00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:56,920 Speaker 6: then there's a possibility of a field goal. When I play, 692 00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:58,560 Speaker 6: you had to get the ball down to the thirty 693 00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:03,920 Speaker 6: yard line. Oh that twenty yards is a different mentality 694 00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:07,600 Speaker 6: because those teams, when you play the Cowboys, it's different 695 00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:10,280 Speaker 6: than when you play the other thirty one teams because 696 00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:14,800 Speaker 6: your two minute defense, think's totally different. 697 00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:17,960 Speaker 4: Then when you play a team that because you like. 698 00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:19,839 Speaker 6: I don't want to give up no points before the half, 699 00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:23,799 Speaker 6: but you end up giving up seven points because you 700 00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:27,439 Speaker 6: worried about the threat of that kicker. And I think 701 00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:30,680 Speaker 6: Shot has taken advantage of that. Basically, what you guys 702 00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:33,040 Speaker 6: heard from him is that I want the seven and 703 00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:34,840 Speaker 6: if I can get the seven, I'll take the seventh. 704 00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:39,160 Speaker 7: I think the thing is this simple to this right here, fellas, 705 00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:41,799 Speaker 7: And I'm gonna tell you what Barrys swiss to tell you. 706 00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,879 Speaker 2: Where you win and got pickings. It's all over. 707 00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:49,560 Speaker 7: Like he said on first down, if I get anything 708 00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:53,000 Speaker 7: over ten yards on first down, my offense is still 709 00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:53,400 Speaker 7: wide over. 710 00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:54,080 Speaker 4: It's swatow. 711 00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:55,160 Speaker 2: Now when I throw. 712 00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,000 Speaker 7: This thing again on first and ten and I hit 713 00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,719 Speaker 7: you for twenty, I'm going for the touchdown. I ain't 714 00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:01,960 Speaker 7: thinking about the field goal. I was thinking about this mill, 715 00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:04,840 Speaker 7: but now I'm going for the touchdown. I know I 716 00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:08,800 Speaker 7: got the field because for the first time in Dak's career, 717 00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:14,160 Speaker 7: he got two veteran wide receivers that are playing lights out. 718 00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:17,800 Speaker 7: Dak has never had that, and this is what people 719 00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:18,640 Speaker 7: don't understand. 720 00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:22,360 Speaker 2: He's never had that. He got it now. Yeah, I 721 00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:22,840 Speaker 2: think a. 722 00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:25,279 Speaker 8: Lot of it also goes to just I mean, when 723 00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:28,520 Speaker 8: you look at Shottonhamberg, I feel like, as much reverence 724 00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:31,640 Speaker 8: as he rightfully has for Mike McCarthy, you can kind 725 00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:34,880 Speaker 8: of see Shottenheimer feels like he's trying to take his 726 00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:36,799 Speaker 8: jacket off for lack of a better way to put 727 00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:38,440 Speaker 8: it right where it's just like a lot of these 728 00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:40,680 Speaker 8: fourth down conversions. It's not always even fourth and short. 729 00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:43,520 Speaker 8: It's like fourth and fourth, fourth and five, where I 730 00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:45,080 Speaker 8: think that they're lining up to try to draw the 731 00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:47,560 Speaker 8: other team off side. They snapped the ball and I'm 732 00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:51,359 Speaker 8: in the press box like, oh, Shoty okay, okay. So 733 00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:54,200 Speaker 8: I just think by nature, Shoty wants to be more 734 00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:57,279 Speaker 8: aggressive and it's working more often than not. And then 735 00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:59,080 Speaker 8: you look at you know, you take that seck like 736 00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:01,319 Speaker 8: you said, if this is McCarthy's, this is if this 737 00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:03,719 Speaker 8: is Jason Garrett, they probably kneel and say, we'll try 738 00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:05,840 Speaker 8: this to get in the second half. But then what happens. 739 00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:09,160 Speaker 8: Shotty was up to play. Dak drops it back, takes 740 00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:12,000 Speaker 8: the shot with George Pickens. George Pickens does what wide 741 00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:15,359 Speaker 8: receiver one things right, because like they said, Dak now 742 00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:18,799 Speaker 8: has two wide receiver ones in their prime. 743 00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:21,320 Speaker 5: And still under the age of twenty five. It's crazy. 744 00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:25,120 Speaker 3: Is that game different? If they don't score the touchd anthing? 745 00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:27,160 Speaker 3: That felt like a lot of momentum for Washington. They 746 00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:30,200 Speaker 3: get the touchdown if you kneel it down, Washington's getting 747 00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:31,680 Speaker 3: the bass starting out the second. Now that could have 748 00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:33,680 Speaker 3: easily if they are able to then move down to this. 749 00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:35,480 Speaker 3: Do you think it did anything to sapen anything? 750 00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:40,239 Speaker 2: This was Dallas game. This was Dallas gang. Yeah. 751 00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:45,880 Speaker 7: The thing that the thing that I like is coach 752 00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:49,520 Speaker 7: Schattenheimer and then he's slick about it, but he always 753 00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:52,000 Speaker 7: thinking about and he realized that his defense is not 754 00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:55,760 Speaker 7: at par and that's gotta be put into effect. Yeah, 755 00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:57,680 Speaker 7: so he gotta be a little bit more aggressive. You 756 00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:00,440 Speaker 7: let this defense get good. I don't don't know how, 757 00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:04,839 Speaker 7: but you let them get good. You Yeah, don't do 758 00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:06,920 Speaker 7: that some time. 759 00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:11,160 Speaker 1: Church, but you got you got over somehow. 760 00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:11,640 Speaker 4: Come back. 761 00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:15,600 Speaker 3: Okay, there's a shamar James is playing a little better. Okay, 762 00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:18,440 Speaker 3: Clowny looked like he was knocking off some of the roughs. Nate, 763 00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:21,080 Speaker 3: I'm just trying to give you some options. 764 00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:22,480 Speaker 4: That's it. That's it. 765 00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:25,880 Speaker 2: How much we got how much time. 766 00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:27,600 Speaker 3: We got in You want to wrap here and we 767 00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:30,120 Speaker 3: can come back for the longer. All right, Let's let's 768 00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:36,440 Speaker 3: let's wrap it. Let's take our final break. Let's hear 769 00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:44,920 Speaker 3: it from the quarterback. When we come back back, we're 770 00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:47,120 Speaker 3: gonna talk about We're talking about the text sat backs. 771 00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:50,239 Speaker 3: We're talking about Carson back and how bad Carson Beck is. 772 00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:54,319 Speaker 5: And we come back, we're gonna get in. 773 00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:59,240 Speaker 3: We're gonna give Nate a chance to uh to breathe 774 00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:01,839 Speaker 3: of sizes, and then we'll talk a little bit about 775 00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:03,719 Speaker 3: this game against Denver coming up. That's next on the 776 00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,120 Speaker 3: s WBC Cowboys Cross Talks at. 777 00:44:13,080 --> 00:48:00,759 Speaker 9: Oh Cowboys, No Cowboys, No Cowboys Trials at. 778 00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:21,200 Speaker 3: WBC Customized solutions for individuals and businesses, or just to 779 00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:23,560 Speaker 3: click away is it SWBC dot com to learn more 780 00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:25,799 Speaker 3: and start your next adventure. Welcome back to Cowboys Club. 781 00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:27,880 Speaker 3: At the start and first go for the SLBBC Cowboys 782 00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:30,480 Speaker 3: Cross Talk live on the Dallas Cowboys Radio Network on 783 00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:32,520 Speaker 3: Bobby Belt from one o five through the fan in Dallas. 784 00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:35,439 Speaker 3: We've got Dallas Cowboys dot COM's Patrick Walker, the three 785 00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:37,879 Speaker 3: time Super Bowl champ, six time Pro Bowler Nate Newton 786 00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:39,960 Speaker 3: here and our Cowboys eleven nine. This evening is three 787 00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:42,800 Speaker 3: time Super Bowl champ and all pro Kevin Smith. And 788 00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:45,120 Speaker 3: also I know you said we were gonna do college. 789 00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:45,879 Speaker 3: We're not gonna do college. 790 00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:48,560 Speaker 1: But he is a proud Animalum they're the number three yet. 791 00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:50,640 Speaker 3: So just would you like to spike the football real 792 00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:52,000 Speaker 3: quick on an m's behalf. 793 00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:56,960 Speaker 6: Shoot this weekend? So I will say this. I gave 794 00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:57,840 Speaker 6: Nata hat tonight. 795 00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:00,120 Speaker 2: Look at that aggie and look. 796 00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:05,719 Speaker 7: My son alone one I am not that was a 797 00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:08,799 Speaker 7: long time yeah, yeah, yeah, they you know what? 798 00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:10,799 Speaker 2: Look at here man. 799 00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:14,239 Speaker 7: Yeah, George, I hate you, we love you to you 800 00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:17,120 Speaker 7: gave us Carson. I'm I went to Florida and m Yeah, 801 00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:21,440 Speaker 7: but I've been always down with Miami, the Luke Skottwalker 802 00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:22,480 Speaker 7: and Michael Irvans and. 803 00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:22,799 Speaker 2: All of that. 804 00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:25,160 Speaker 7: Right now, you you know what I'm saying, And hey, 805 00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:27,760 Speaker 7: we go pay this kid all this money? 806 00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:33,040 Speaker 6: Five and or you left off Magic City. Don't even 807 00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:35,479 Speaker 6: talk about. 808 00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:35,480 Speaker 1: The Wings are really good. 809 00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:38,200 Speaker 4: Doing too much? 810 00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:38,960 Speaker 5: What was the question? 811 00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:41,560 Speaker 2: There? 812 00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:41,799 Speaker 4: You go? 813 00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:43,840 Speaker 1: But and I'm looking, that. 814 00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:44,640 Speaker 4: Wasn't Magic City. 815 00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:48,359 Speaker 7: That was Atlanta, right, yeah, ye, it was so many, 816 00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:50,040 Speaker 7: It was so many polestic. 817 00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:54,359 Speaker 4: The one the one in Miami was called I know, 818 00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:58,279 Speaker 4: I know, I know I ain't saying. 819 00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:05,000 Speaker 3: Talk about there is a there's a football team that we're. 820 00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:09,040 Speaker 2: The Dallas spot. 821 00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:11,960 Speaker 1: The Dallas Cowboys play the Denver Broncos this weekend. 822 00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:15,760 Speaker 3: Uh Now, now, Nate, the thing that I keep seeing 823 00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:19,520 Speaker 3: is the defense. You're you're hoping for some stability. It 824 00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:21,759 Speaker 3: feels like with the way this offense is playing right now, 825 00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:28,000 Speaker 3: if you have a even slightly below average defense or an. 826 00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:31,040 Speaker 2: Average we can give us a number twenty. 827 00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:31,919 Speaker 1: To twenty second in NFL. 828 00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:33,759 Speaker 3: This feels like it could be a fourteen win team 829 00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:36,360 Speaker 3: just because of how powerful the offense is and how 830 00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:39,000 Speaker 3: difficult to match up that they are. You were just saying, 831 00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:40,840 Speaker 3: for the break, I don't know how it happens, but 832 00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:42,640 Speaker 3: if you can make it happen and get the defense. 833 00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:44,439 Speaker 1: To God to rest in place, how's happening? 834 00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:44,759 Speaker 2: Right? 835 00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:46,759 Speaker 3: So as as we come back to that and we 836 00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:49,759 Speaker 3: look at it, how realistic is it? How many of 837 00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:51,360 Speaker 3: these things do you think they can take from Washington 838 00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:53,360 Speaker 3: and applying Ford and Puffy as well. What can you 839 00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:56,600 Speaker 3: take from this and apply moving forward? Or is it 840 00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:58,279 Speaker 3: just you know, this a week to week game plan thing, 841 00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:00,200 Speaker 3: and that was just what it was for Washington got 842 00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:01,440 Speaker 3: to look at it differently moving forwards. 843 00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:02,680 Speaker 4: It's an identity game. 844 00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:06,920 Speaker 6: Can we go on the road and take what we 845 00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:12,520 Speaker 6: what we building if it's building, and go and beat Denver? 846 00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:15,879 Speaker 6: And it doesn't matter how you win. It doesn't take 847 00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:17,439 Speaker 6: but one point to come out of there and win. 848 00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:20,799 Speaker 6: But can you do enough to go out there and 849 00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:24,160 Speaker 6: beat the Denver Broncos? And that's all that matters. So 850 00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:27,640 Speaker 6: are the teams evenly match I think they are, I 851 00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:30,319 Speaker 6: mean offensively. If we play our game and if we 852 00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:32,640 Speaker 6: play a little bit better on defense, we'll be okay. 853 00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:37,480 Speaker 6: But but the point is, can we each week consistently 854 00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:41,080 Speaker 6: get better and better and win on the road just 855 00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:43,120 Speaker 6: as well as we can win at home, And that's 856 00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:43,920 Speaker 6: all that matters. 857 00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:46,120 Speaker 2: Jimmy used to always asks us, how do. 858 00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:50,120 Speaker 7: You play when the team is equal or better than you? 859 00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:52,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, First of all, you don't turn the ball over. 860 00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:56,120 Speaker 7: They don't have dumb penalties, no pre snap penalties at all. 861 00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:58,880 Speaker 7: You got to play. You gotta win the special football 862 00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:01,080 Speaker 7: and you gotta win space when you go on the road. 863 00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:06,000 Speaker 7: He always challenges to win two aspects special teams offense, defense, 864 00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:09,919 Speaker 7: but he always put defense defense, special team defense. 865 00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:10,600 Speaker 2: That was his thing. 866 00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:15,120 Speaker 7: You got defense, travels, run game travels, everything else. 867 00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:17,520 Speaker 3: You got the rally to this is a run game. 868 00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:19,839 Speaker 3: Obviously the features. Davante Williams had a nice bounce back 869 00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:22,759 Speaker 3: this week. Davante has got a homecoming this week, going 870 00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:24,560 Speaker 3: back to Denver for this game, a team that had 871 00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:27,520 Speaker 3: decided they were okay with him and leaving the free agency. 872 00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:29,440 Speaker 3: He ends up in Dallas and is having a great 873 00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:31,759 Speaker 3: year so far. Uh, Patrick, I know you were in 874 00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:35,200 Speaker 3: locker room today Javante was speaking what were some of 875 00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:37,720 Speaker 3: his thoughts about this matchup coming up in his return 876 00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:38,240 Speaker 3: to Denver. 877 00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:40,719 Speaker 8: Well, you know you would love, uh, you would love 878 00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:43,399 Speaker 8: the sound bite for him to match the boockel up Rico. 879 00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:46,600 Speaker 2: He was given the opportunity pass. 880 00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:48,720 Speaker 4: The layup. 881 00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:49,759 Speaker 2: He didn't take the lay up. 882 00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:52,440 Speaker 8: Now, I say, I was going to say, if you're 883 00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:55,440 Speaker 8: a Broncos fan, that might scare you because silence is scarier. 884 00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:57,000 Speaker 2: That's right, do that. 885 00:51:57,200 --> 00:51:59,680 Speaker 8: But you know Javonte, he's excited to go back, and 886 00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:01,560 Speaker 8: obviously he has kind of a leg up even over 887 00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:05,320 Speaker 8: his teammates because what I asked Javonte was about the altitude, 888 00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:07,239 Speaker 8: and you guys know, planning the altitude, what kind of 889 00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:09,879 Speaker 8: advice he can give his teammates, and he spoke about 890 00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:12,480 Speaker 8: that a little bit. But this is, you know, speaking 891 00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:15,040 Speaker 8: of Javonte. This is how, in addition to what Big 892 00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:18,040 Speaker 8: Nate is saying, no self inflicted wounds, don't put yourself 893 00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:20,160 Speaker 8: behind the chains, don't dig a hole that you you 894 00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:21,120 Speaker 8: know gonna have a. 895 00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:22,160 Speaker 5: Hard time digging yourself out. 896 00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:24,520 Speaker 2: Earny four sacks. They have number one. 897 00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:27,000 Speaker 5: In the league in sacks, QB, hits and pressures. 898 00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:30,480 Speaker 8: This is why Javonte Williams is gonna win you this game, okay, 899 00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:32,840 Speaker 8: because this is how you're gonna neutralize that passworse, this 900 00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:34,880 Speaker 8: is how you're gonna make the secondary play honest and 901 00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:37,319 Speaker 8: those defensive back second guests if it's gonna be a 902 00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:39,000 Speaker 8: handoff or it's going to be a play action, and 903 00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:40,799 Speaker 8: Dak excels off of the play action. 904 00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:42,879 Speaker 5: So Javonte he's ready to go back. 905 00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:46,479 Speaker 8: He's I think that between the lines of what he's saying, 906 00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:48,520 Speaker 8: I think he wants to prove to the Broncos that 907 00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:52,919 Speaker 8: they made a mistake by not offering him an opportunity 908 00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:55,319 Speaker 8: to come back, or at least not valuing him enough 909 00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:58,000 Speaker 8: to give him and offer that he felt was justified. 910 00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:00,160 Speaker 8: So I think he's gonna go and he's gonna roun ship. 911 00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:03,719 Speaker 7: This past week, which will Eaven had his level his 912 00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:06,680 Speaker 7: jacket on and level it's. 913 00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:07,200 Speaker 4: Too hot for that. 914 00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:08,080 Speaker 2: He was. 915 00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:12,319 Speaker 4: He was, I know it's October, but it's too hot. Bro. 916 00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:15,200 Speaker 3: Hey, this is this is one of the this is 917 00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:17,479 Speaker 3: one of the things we like to talk about because 918 00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:19,239 Speaker 3: it's obviously big fan of the of the run game 919 00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:20,160 Speaker 3: and opposing you. 920 00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:25,279 Speaker 2: Will couple got hot. 921 00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:28,040 Speaker 4: So he was sweating. He was warming up when he 922 00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:28,800 Speaker 4: got in the stadium. 923 00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:33,680 Speaker 2: You need stretching. I'm good, you can hear hear make company. 924 00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:41,840 Speaker 3: Who was who was, for example, the most physically imposing 925 00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:43,799 Speaker 3: running back You felt like you guys played in your day. 926 00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:46,640 Speaker 4: Oh man, you gotta you gotta remember the nightmare. 927 00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:52,480 Speaker 3: Uh Christian so Christian A Koye or whoever it could be. 928 00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:55,600 Speaker 3: Jerome bad As another physical runner. 929 00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:58,040 Speaker 2: Barry Ward with the word name. 930 00:53:58,360 --> 00:53:59,640 Speaker 4: When we tried to Hempton was. 931 00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:03,439 Speaker 2: Man around to happen. He never ran out of bound. 932 00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:05,000 Speaker 2: That was a scot a headache. 933 00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:07,760 Speaker 3: But so so when you've got a guy like Javonte Williams, 934 00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:10,759 Speaker 3: who you feel like he's got that kind of you know, 935 00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:12,920 Speaker 3: not obviously the same type of player, but in terms 936 00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:14,960 Speaker 3: of he's a guy who looks for contact, wants to 937 00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:18,080 Speaker 3: punish you, always falling forward, doing those sort of things. 938 00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:22,080 Speaker 3: How how frustrating is that when when you're just prepared 939 00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:24,120 Speaker 3: for a game, you're thinking, like, man, it's gonna be 940 00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:26,160 Speaker 3: if I just even having to tackle this guy. 941 00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:28,759 Speaker 4: I'm like, Darren, what'son if you don't get your But 942 00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:31,279 Speaker 4: I'm talking to darn. 943 00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:32,640 Speaker 5: You know. 944 00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:35,719 Speaker 7: It used to be so funny, man, It's how close 945 00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:39,200 Speaker 7: to they would be like you here, hey cat, look 946 00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:41,239 Speaker 7: at a big cat, Look at Leon. Don't let this 947 00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:43,920 Speaker 7: let this dude get up on me. We used to 948 00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:47,839 Speaker 7: talk to each other like, you know, nat y'all need 949 00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:48,640 Speaker 7: to stay on the field, and. 950 00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:49,759 Speaker 2: We don't want we don't want that. 951 00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:51,560 Speaker 4: We were talking about it. 952 00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:54,880 Speaker 6: We played h Eagles one time and they ran a screen, right, 953 00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:58,000 Speaker 6: it was thirty and forty something. They ran a screen 954 00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:02,160 Speaker 6: Tohirschal Walker and the whole line was blocking me. I'm 955 00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:06,040 Speaker 6: fending off everybody. Le telling the story and we get 956 00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:08,879 Speaker 6: in the locker room and Les, get your hands off 957 00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:09,200 Speaker 6: the cat. 958 00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:10,239 Speaker 4: I said. 959 00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:16,480 Speaker 6: Everybody was blocking me, rich Cot, everybody, I said, but hey, 960 00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:20,480 Speaker 6: I didn't like to tackle but you know, anytime you 961 00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:23,120 Speaker 6: have a running back that's physical and run the ball, 962 00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:25,200 Speaker 6: you want him on your side of the ball as 963 00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:27,840 Speaker 6: a post on the side. And Williams is definitely doing that. 964 00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:28,719 Speaker 6: He doesn't go down on. 965 00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:29,520 Speaker 4: The first contact. 966 00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:32,160 Speaker 6: He's always getting the extra two or three yards and 967 00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:34,000 Speaker 6: that's what's helping this offense big. 968 00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:38,040 Speaker 3: So, like Patrick was saying, that's the we we hear that, 969 00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:40,400 Speaker 3: we hear the line. Sometimes you have to you have 970 00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:43,000 Speaker 3: to earn the right to rush. You have to earn 971 00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:45,040 Speaker 3: the right to rush the pas. It's not going to 972 00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:47,200 Speaker 3: be a big that you need to make that right. 973 00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:51,080 Speaker 7: They are they holding things down the ninety three yards. 974 00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:54,040 Speaker 7: They pretty good a game. The only people that got 975 00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:56,360 Speaker 7: him was the colt Sad John's got him in the 976 00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:58,160 Speaker 7: first half though. Yeah, but you know what is the 977 00:55:58,239 --> 00:56:01,440 Speaker 7: game went on. There were four play Yes, if you 978 00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:03,759 Speaker 7: go look at the field, they have four bad. 979 00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:06,040 Speaker 2: Plays and everyone on was such nights. Yeah, but when 980 00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:06,880 Speaker 2: they tighten. 981 00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:11,759 Speaker 8: Up that defense is something serious. 982 00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:14,520 Speaker 1: It's very tough, no doubt. Still Nate your pick for 983 00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:15,239 Speaker 1: this week. 984 00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:17,080 Speaker 7: Hey man, we got this thing man on the seventy 985 00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:17,560 Speaker 7: one yard. 986 00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:18,640 Speaker 2: Since y'all loved the. 987 00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:23,480 Speaker 7: We'll be we'll be down by two, ain't going with that. 988 00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:26,480 Speaker 7: Gotta go ninety five, y'all with two timeous. 989 00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:28,359 Speaker 1: And so down by two until we got him by one, 990 00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:31,719 Speaker 1: got him by the Yeah. 991 00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:34,759 Speaker 3: Dallas guy, Patrick Roger, thank you, Nate New thank you 992 00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:36,480 Speaker 3: to you as well, and of course our cowboys love 993 00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:38,160 Speaker 3: n this evening, the all pron this three times swot 994 00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:40,279 Speaker 3: Bow champion Tips, Ben, thank you so much for joining us. 995 00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:42,680 Speaker 3: Uh and we'll be back again next week, hopefully talking 996 00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:45,520 Speaker 3: about a Cowboys victory over the Denver Broncos. 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