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Speaker 1: You're listening to sports.

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Speaker 2: Oh, good morning, Happy Saturday too. You hope everything is

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Speaker 2: off to a fantastic start here with Jared Smith. No

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Speaker 2: Rich today, Jared, good morning to you. I don't know

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Speaker 2: what's going on with Rich. He's got to hunker down,

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Speaker 2: focus on his padres against the Dodgers Ajer series. But

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Speaker 2: it's just you and me today.

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Speaker 1: It's preseason. It's preseason, right. We're going through the motions

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Speaker 1: a little bit, but uh yeah, no, we're gonna have

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Speaker 1: a We're gonna have an easy, breezy show here today.

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Speaker 1: Lots of fun stuff on man.

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Speaker 2: A ton of stuff. Lots of ball on tap today.

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Speaker 2: Man football right around the corner. Actually, you know, at

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Speaker 2: least preseason football is just a few hours away, you know,

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Speaker 2: so we've got that count Jets Giants today.

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Speaker 1: I'm wearing my Jets hat. Big big day, big Apple.

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Speaker 2: Big day, big day when the Jets has it for sure,

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Speaker 2: you know. To start it off, Jared, the first thing

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Speaker 2: I want to do. You have any idea what I

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Speaker 2: want to.

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Speaker 1: Do over here? You want to play a game?

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Speaker 2: That's exactly what I want to do with That's right,

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Speaker 2: Let's do that right away. So here's the theme it's

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Speaker 2: gonna sound like I'm throwing thirteen things at you. Only four,

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Speaker 2: Only four? Okay, here's the game. Like it, dislike it,

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Speaker 2: or dislike, love or hate Okay. So I'll just throw

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Speaker 2: out some stuff and we'll chop it up here. First

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Speaker 2: thing is Bears quarterback Caleb Williams will play Sunday Night

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Speaker 2: versus the Bills. Do you like it? Dislike it? Love

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Speaker 1: Love it? I mean, he was on my no show

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Speaker 1: list last week. I have a list of all the

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks that haven't played yet in the preseason. It's actually

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Speaker 1: not a list you really want to be on because

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Speaker 1: it's not especially if you want to bet on these

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks Week one for props because they tend to not

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Speaker 1: do well in the prop market when they don't play

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Speaker 1: in the preseason. But I think Caleb needs he needs

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Speaker 1: So I love that.

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Speaker 2: I love it too. I don't understand why he wasn't

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Speaker 2: you've got offensive pieces that are brand new all over

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Speaker 2: the place. You got three new offensive linemen, that interior

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Speaker 2: I mean you get some reps out there with new

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Speaker 2: that you've had before, just get out there. It wasn't

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Speaker 2: a work of art last year, sixty eight sacks. You

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Speaker 2: to get him eighty more reps. Someone explained that to me,

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Speaker 2: How how would play in the preseason game eliminate all

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Speaker 1: I think another thing I think I mentioned this last week.

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Speaker 1: I know that the joint practices are becoming the new

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Speaker 1: preseason games. I get that, but you're not in a stadium.

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Speaker 1: You're not the bright lights aren't on. It's not you

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Speaker 1: don't have the same vibe in the joint practices as

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Speaker 2: It's gonna feel like practice. Okay, we've got a Vikings

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Speaker 1: Hate it again, I just go out there and hand

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Speaker 1: This kid has never started an NFL game. He's never

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Speaker 1: I'm the crazy one here for saying that one drive,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I hate it. Also, let's get out there, do

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Speaker 2: the whole preparation. Let's get a drive, let's get some

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Speaker 2: the vikings with these sky high expectations. Right, it's go time.

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Speaker 2: They won fourteen games last season, and as a first

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Speaker 2: but I think it makes more sense to get out there,

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Speaker 1: I hate it.

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's the right approach. Okay, how about this,

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Speaker 2: So Mike Sando he does his annual quarterback tiers list. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: so he interviews fifty head coaches, GMS, former GMS league executives.

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Speaker 2: So he talks to all these people and they give

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Speaker 2: them all these quotes about all these quarterbacks and then

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Speaker 2: I want to focus in on two quotes specifically, Okay,

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Speaker 2: and you just have to tell me do you like it,

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Speaker 2: dislike it, love it, or hate it. Now, there's an

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Speaker 2: I will say, right now, I just want to give

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Speaker 2: what the offensive coach says. They literally cannot operate the

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Speaker 2: I don't even like watching him play. But at this point, dude,

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Speaker 2: I can't say you are not that guy. Which quarterback

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Speaker 2: do you think that offensive coach is talking?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 1: I think it's Jared Goff. That would be my guess.

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Speaker 2: You know who it is? Tua Tongue of iye low.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that that makes sense too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it makes some sense. Yeah, like you're that guy?

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Speaker 2: You got it?

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Speaker 1: Like that?

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Speaker 2: Tua really as a Dolphins Maan, I'm like, really, that's

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Speaker 1: I think I like it because I understand where it's

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Speaker 1: like what McDaniel wants to do. I think Tua really

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Speaker 1: grasps that the problem that the Dolphins have is of

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Speaker 1: the key this year. You need Miami to be significantly

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Speaker 1: drop off last year. I mean some of the numbers

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Speaker 1: I was just I was doing the Dolphins deep that

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Speaker 1: extrapolate those numbers out for an entire season, they're pretty

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Speaker 1: much dead last in like every category. So it just

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Speaker 1: you go from above league average maybe just you know,

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Speaker 1: Let's call it with Tua to thirty second without him,

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Speaker 1: I mean that that is just a massive, massive drop

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Speaker 2: Well, the first part I love, and it's true, there's

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Speaker 2: no doubt there's a massive drop off between Tua and

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Speaker 2: But that's the thing, man is, I'm not expecting Snoop

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Speaker 2: gonna be a drop off. But the thing I hate

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Speaker 2: about the quote is we can't make it sound like

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Speaker 2: There's another quote where it's just funny, these quotes can

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Speaker 2: differ greatly about the same quarterback. There's a quote there

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Speaker 2: that's like, have we ever seen Tua like just sling

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Speaker 2: it around. If the running game isn't working, you know,

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Speaker 2: the play action pass isn't there, and you can just say, Tua,

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Speaker 2: just take us to the Promised Land. Maybe have you

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Speaker 2: ever been able to say that? I know you can't,

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Speaker 2: So I hate the last part. You can't say with

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Speaker 2: if the offensive line is lacking, if the run game

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the run game is key. The irony is the

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Speaker 1: run game actually hasn't been that great With Tua on

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Speaker 1: the field, I think there's more upside to their run game.

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Speaker 1: I think Ashan to me is a guy that if

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Speaker 1: this year. I know that's not what you want to hear.

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Speaker 1: I So now the win totals moved down, like I

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Speaker 1: You know, you know he was amazing. Probably in your

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Speaker 1: I like it a lot, you do. That's what I

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Speaker 2: I dislike it. I go thumbs down. I don't go

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Speaker 2: I would agree, just completely sell what Bryce Young did there,

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I think it's more about can the defense

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Speaker 1: Last four games. Here are the defenses he played Cowboys, Cardinals, Bucks, Falcons.

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Speaker 2: this year. And if you break it down as to

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Speaker 2: why Shador has been such a huge story you mentioned it,

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Speaker 2: you can go, you know, bullet points where it's famous father.

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Speaker 2: Everybody had an opinion on him in college. It's kind

433
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Speaker 2: of like the Caleb Williams thing when he was at

434
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Speaker 2: USC everybody had an opinion. Just transferred right over to

435
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Speaker 2: the NFL. And with the slide to the fifth round,

436
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Speaker 2: there is there's this this sort of like t bow

437
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Speaker 2: quality here, not saying, you know, a caliber of player,

438
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Speaker 2: but in terms of the reaction from everybody on the

439
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Speaker 2: outside looking in, where there's this conversation they're these believers

440
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Speaker 2: this guy can do it, and there are non believers

441
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Speaker 2: that're like, it's a bunch of fluff, this guy doesn't

442
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Speaker 2: have the goods yet, and there's this ready made, microwaveable

443
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Speaker 2: conversation that's gonna be had and had and had that

444
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Speaker 2: Shadeur Sanders, there's not this conversation about cam Ward where

445
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Speaker 2: people are banging the table like he's gonna be the guy,

446
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Speaker 2: or the opposite, like he's not gonna be the guy,

447
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Speaker 2: and let's fight about it until we're red in the face.

448
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Speaker 2: It just doesn't exist with cam Warden it does with Shadur.

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Speaker 2: So for those reasons, it does make sense. He's been

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Speaker 2: this huge of a story.

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Speaker 1: Sure, we live in the age of outrage, if you

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Speaker 1: want to allow me to preach for a minute here,

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Speaker 1: So cam Ward, there's no outrage with cam Ward. He's

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Speaker 1: a really good player. He's had a really good college career.

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Speaker 1: He had really good numbers in college. He deserved to

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Speaker 1: be the number one pick. There is zero controversy. He's

457
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Speaker 1: just this is the way that the NFL operates. You're

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Speaker 1: really good, you're really talented, you make all the throws,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna be drafted number one overall if you're quarterback

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Speaker 1: like that, that's just the way that it works. There's

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Speaker 1: nothing to sell there. It's very bland, it's very mild.

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Speaker 1: Whereas Shador, well, there were some pundits who thought he

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Speaker 1: was a top ten pick. The betting markets thought at

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Speaker 1: one point he was a top ten pick, and then

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Speaker 1: he falls to the fifth round. That is made for

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Speaker 1: TV drama. You could sell that on your first eight

467
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Speaker 1: shows and make make a fun segment out of it.

468
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Speaker 1: You can probably make a fun summer out of it.

469
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Speaker 1: That's pretty much what they've done. But the other players,

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Speaker 1: McCarthy very bland, mild personality, doesn't have that you know,

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Speaker 1: outrage quality to him where people get they're not going

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Speaker 1: to feel something for that. People will feel something for Shador.

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Speaker 1: And when you cram it down your throat on every

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Speaker 1: major network for six months, it's going to continue to

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Speaker 1: resonate amongst NFL fans. Again, I'll go back to what

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Speaker 1: I feel I am. I am of the belief that

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Speaker 1: Shador is significantly better than a fifth round pick. He

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Speaker 1: should have been taken in Gabriel spot, probably in the

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Speaker 1: third round, probably sooner. But the fact that he was

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Speaker 1: taken in the fifth round makes this more interesting because

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Speaker 1: you have the ability to overcome the obstacle, like everybody

482
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Speaker 1: loves to see the overcoming of the obstacles, and Chador,

483
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Speaker 1: of course has that very polarizing personality.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so let's go with cam Ward's team. If you're

485
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Speaker 2: looking at a season win total, let's start with that.

486
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Speaker 2: They're at five and a half at BETMGM. Atlies, I

487
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Speaker 2: know you can take every number of you you can

488
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Speaker 2: have the sliding scale, you go over six and a half,

489
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Speaker 2: over seven and a half, under three and a half,

490
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Speaker 2: whatever you want to go with, but I try to

491
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Speaker 2: get as close to even money. That's the closest right

492
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Speaker 2: is five and a half. The over at bet MGM

493
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Speaker 2: is minus one fifty, right, So like, definitely juice toward

494
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 2: the over right there, Which way would you bet it?

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Speaker 2: Would you go over five and a half under five

496
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Speaker 2: and a half For the Titans over five and a half.

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Speaker 1: I think a couple reasons. One they play in the

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Speaker 1: division where you would think there is room to the upside. Two,

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Speaker 1: I don't think the market can fully capture cam Ward's upside.

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Speaker 1: And then three, I mean you go from Will Levis

501
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Speaker 1: to cam Ward. I mean you want some numbers here.

502
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Speaker 1: So in college, cam Ward's sack rate was two point

503
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Speaker 1: nine percent, best in class this year for any quarterback.

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Speaker 1: His interception rate was below two percent. In three years

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Speaker 1: as a starter, he threw five and a half touchdowns

506
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Speaker 1: for every interception. That was eighty seven percent tile all time.

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Speaker 1: Now let's look at Levis, he took forty two cent Now,

508
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Speaker 1: don't even worry about the NFL. Let's just look at

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Speaker 1: Levis's college sack college numbers. Took forty two sacks twelve

510
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Speaker 1: twelve game season in Kentucky. That's a twelve point nine

511
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Speaker 1: percent sack right. Again, Ward was less than three percent.

512
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Speaker 1: The interceptions ten in two hundred and eighty three attempts,

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Speaker 1: it's three and a half percent I in T rate. Again,

514
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Speaker 1: Ward was less than two percent. Levis with a one

515
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Speaker 1: point nine touchdown to I T ratio. Again, Ward was

516
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Speaker 1: five and a half. I mean, just if you just

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Speaker 1: extrapolate that into the NFL and we all know what

518
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Speaker 1: Levis did last ye don't have to go through all

519
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Speaker 1: the numbers. It was like a freakin' autopsy. But I

520
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Speaker 1: just think the core structure of what cam Ward is

521
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Speaker 1: as a player compared to Will Levis, the metrics, taking sacks,

522
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Speaker 1: throwing interceptions, there's such a drastic improvement with what you're

523
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Speaker 1: gonna see this year in terms of the floor of

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Speaker 1: the offense. I think the ceiling is considerably higher. I

525
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Speaker 1: don't know if he can reach that ceiling in year one,

526
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Speaker 1: although some of the throws I've seen in the preseason

527
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Speaker 1: eye popping, but I think the floor is so much

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Speaker 1: higher for cam Ward that it's almost impossible for Tennessee,

529
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Speaker 1: who won I think three games last year, right not

530
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Speaker 1: to at least get to five and I think six

531
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Speaker 1: to me is I think over five and I have

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Speaker 1: it's a good bet for Tennessee this year.

533
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Speaker 2: I'm going under I'm taking the plus money here because

534
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 2: you said it right there at the end. Only three

535
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Speaker 2: wins last season, they got to double their win total.

536
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Speaker 2: Do I think that the Titans are good enough to

537
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Speaker 2: double their win total?

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Speaker 6: Like?

539
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 2: Maybe, But if you look at the road to getting there,

540
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Speaker 2: they play the AFC West top to bottom. They played

541
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Speaker 2: the NFC West top to bottom, top to bottom. Those

542
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Speaker 2: are two pretty decent divisions, specially if you're looking at

543
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Speaker 2: it from a Titans perspective. Right, So where do they

544
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Speaker 2: go record wise against those two divisions? We're talking maybe

545
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Speaker 2: like two wins six, maybe even maybe one in seven

546
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Speaker 2: something like that. If that's what they do, They've got

547
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Speaker 2: a whole lot of work to do to get to

548
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Speaker 2: even six wins. And I look at the beginning of

549
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Speaker 2: this schedule, also, where are the wins like five of

550
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Speaker 2: their First, let's say four of their first five games

551
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:59,879
Speaker 2: are tough at Broncos, they host the Rams, at the Texans, at.

552
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Speaker 1: The car Cardinals.

553
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Speaker 2: I don't see a whole lot of wins. Now in

554
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Speaker 2: Week three they do host the Colts, and that's at

555
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 2: least a favorable matchup. But when we're talking, there's a

556
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Speaker 2: big difference between being better hanging in games and winning

557
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:18,199
Speaker 2: games in the NFL and to double your win total

558
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:20,400
Speaker 2: where you just mentioned it, that was a nice throw

559
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Speaker 2: by cam Ward and stonehands Van Jefferson didn't come back,

560
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,720
Speaker 2: Jeff I mean outside of Calvin Ridley, who do you

561
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 2: love offensively as a weapon for you know, first year

562
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Speaker 2: rookie quarterback cam Ward. I think they're gonna be a

563
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,879
Speaker 2: lot of growing pains. I'll take the plus money on

564
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 2: the under. How about their opponent last night in the preseason.

565
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Speaker 2: That would be the Atlanta Falcons. They're at seven and

566
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Speaker 2: a half. It's juice to the over at bet MGM.

567
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:46,480
Speaker 2: Who do you like at Which side do you like

568
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Speaker 2: there with the Falcons?

569
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I would lean over on Atlanta. It's

570
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Speaker 1: not one of my favorite plays in the preseason. I

571
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Speaker 1: think the schedule is relatively favorable although you do have

572
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Speaker 1: some tricky spots, even of ten games down the stretch

573
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 1: against the teams expected to have a losing record, you

574
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 1: do have some travel spots that are tough. But again,

575
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Speaker 1: New England, Indy, Atlanta, New Orleans Jets, Atlanta, Tampa, Arizona.

576
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 1: That's their stretch run. That feels like a manageable schedule.

577
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Speaker 1: I think, can they get off to a decent start,

578
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Speaker 1: I think seven and a half. Yeah, I would say

579
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 1: over that it's over in Atlanta.

580
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would take over as well. I just think

581
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 2: that it's not like Kirk Cousins set the quarterback bar

582
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 2: unreachingly high for Pennix Junior, you know. And then also

583
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 2: they went with two first round pass rushers. If you

584
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 2: get any sort of bump up, they've been freaking brutal

585
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:48,480
Speaker 2: in the pass rush department for decades. Like that's not

586
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 2: under selling it at all. You picked picked up Leonard

587
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 2: Floyd there as well. So if Jalen Walker, James Pierce Junior,

588
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 2: if they make their presence known in any way, that

589
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 2: can make a big, big difference. Right, So yeah, I

590
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 2: like the over. It's a Falcons team that I mean

591
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 2: they got over last year. If you think about it.

592
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 2: They won eight games last season. Are they taking a

593
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Speaker 2: step back? I think, if anything, they're going forward or

594
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 2: staying the same. I don't think they're taking a step back.

595
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Speaker 2: I'll take them over that two other teams that were

596
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Speaker 2: in action last night late night. You know he had

597
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Speaker 2: Chiefs at the Seahawks. First off, what do you think

598
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,959
Speaker 2: of the Chiefs total? Eleven and a half. You know

599
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 2: over is plus money plus one oh five. You like

600
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 2: the over or the under for the Chiefs.

601
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Speaker 1: I'm not betting under on the Chiefs. I have learned

602
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 1: plenty of lessons over the years about this team. I

603
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 1: think they're considerably better this year. Honestly, especially on offense.

604
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Speaker 1: I think if they're healthy with Rice and Worthy, I

605
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 1: think that offense is going to be good. In fact,

606
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 1: I think Mahomes is a little bit underpriced in the

607
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 1: MVP market. I mean, let's be honest. He gets he

608
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 1: for a quarterback as decorated as he is, he gets

609
00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 1: a lot of he's not good enough, team's not good

610
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 1: enough around him, like he gets a lot of that smoke.

611
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 1: I think he should be right on par with Allen

612
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 1: and Jackson in the MVP market because I think that

613
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 1: offense is legit now, I think he won't need to

614
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 1: do as much because I think of those three teams Baltimore, Buffalo, Kantasity,

615
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 1: I think can't say he might have the best defense

616
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 1: of all three. Maybe maybe I slight lean to that opinion.

617
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 1: I could be changed off of that based off of

618
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 1: how Buffalo starts this year. I think they did some

619
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 1: nice renovation to their defense in the offseason, and of

620
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 1: course Baltimore is very talented. I think they fixed the

621
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 1: offensive line. I think that is going to be huge.

622
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 1: I mean, if if Donovan Jackson is a stud for

623
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 1: the Chiefs and they get him, what was it twenty fourth,

624
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Speaker 1: I think I mean that this is a guy that

625
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 1: probably was a top ten pick if he didn't hurt

626
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 1: his knee, and if he from from all I see

627
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 1: from all I hear from the depth chart, like he's

628
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 1: he's the starting tackle. If he's that guy and you

629
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 1: get him on the left side, you get Taylor on

630
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 1: the right side, I think Mahomes could have a really

631
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 1: big year.

632
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Speaker 2: No, I do too, Josh Simmons, they're way Raven Simmons him. Yeah,

633
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 2: they love them, and yeah, if he's if he's what

634
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 2: they think he is, look out if if if Mahomes

635
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 2: has the protection and then he's got health around him.

636
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 2: We'll find out about Rashie Rice how long he's suspended.

637
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 2: He'll be there for the first four weeks. It looks like, yeah,

638
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 2: that's a big deal. But with Rushie Rice, Hollywood Brown,

639
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 2: Xavier Worthy, Travis kelce like, I think he has a

640
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 2: resurgence this season. We look at Kelsey as if he

641
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 2: had this disastrous season. It's just he didn't have touchdown grabs.

642
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 2: He still had a ton of catches, right, Like, he

643
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 2: just didn't get into the paint very often. But he

644
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 2: slimmed down. I think Travis Kelcey has a definitely a

645
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 2: respectable season. I'm bullish on the Chiefs. I love the

646
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 2: over I love him to win the division. I just

647
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 2: think there's way too much of an overreaction of oh,

648
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 2: the Eagles provide the blueprint for for what the Raiders

649
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 2: to beat him to. The Raider don't have half the

650
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 2: roster the Eagles have, you know what I mean?

651
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 1: Like Fango had an extra week and he always beats

652
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 1: the Chiefs and the Homes like that's his thing. Not

653
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 1: every team has a Vic Fangio scheme in defense.

654
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. Okay. Last one to do real fast

655
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 2: the Seahawks. They were in action last night. We're looking

656
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 2: at the preseason teams from the Friday Night slate. If

657
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 2: you will Seahawks seven and a half, it's juice to

658
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 2: the over. Which do you like Sam Donald over there?

659
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 5: Now?

660
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 2: Do you like him over seven and a half?

661
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 1: I will say this, I think Kubiak, who schemed up

662
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 1: a really nice opening script for Sam Donald yesterday, I

663
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 1: think that match is a good match. You're gonna see

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00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 1: a lot more pre snet motion, You're gonna see a

665
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 1: lot more play action. Those are things that Sam Donald

666
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 1: did really well last year in Minnesota. The Seahawks did

667
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 1: not do any of that last year on offense. I

668
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 1: think Walker and Charbone are really good, but I think

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00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 1: Donald's gonna kind of revert back to his form. I

670
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 1: like that. That's my vibe is Kevin O'Connell has the

671
00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 1: magic Midas touch and as good as Clint Kubiak is

672
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 1: as a as a scripter. I think that script eventually

673
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 1: will wear off and then Sam Donald's gonna have to

674
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 1: win you the game. And that's when I get a

675
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:14,800
Speaker 1: little bit concerned. Defensively, I'm very excited. McDonald's an absolute

676
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 1: rock star. But if you look at the ten wins

677
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 1: last year, here are the quarterbacks. They beat Nicks, Williams, Brissette,

678
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 1: Skyler Thompson, backup, Jimmy g not one hundred percent, Kirk Cousins,

679
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,359
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray twice, Aaron Rodgers on a bad Jets team

680
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 1: they won by five, and Rock Perdy by three late

681
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 1: in the year. I just I have a feeling that

682
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,919
Speaker 1: those quarterbacks are not world beaters, and when you face

683
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 1: the elite of the elite, I feel like under seven

684
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 1: and a half's the way I'd go to Seattle.

685
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:45,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would go there too, I'll be honest. It's

686
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:49,920
Speaker 2: a tough one because I look at Sam Donald behind

687
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:53,479
Speaker 2: an if the offensive line. That's a horrible recipe right there.

688
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 2: So I like the under for that. But then I

689
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:58,239
Speaker 2: look at the schedule and man, the schedule when you're

690
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:02,959
Speaker 2: playing the NFC South and the AFC South top to bottom,

691
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 2: there are some wins in there with the Seahawks, and

692
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 2: then they're playing a second place schedule. This is the

693
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 2: other side of it. It's I think fairly difficult. At

694
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 2: the Steelers. You know, at the Commanders, on a Sunday

695
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:18,240
Speaker 2: night and then you host the vikings. There are second

696
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 2: place schedules that aren't as tough as that, So you

697
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:25,359
Speaker 2: get the thumbs up with the water down divisions if

698
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 2: you will, AFC, NFC South, But the second place schedule

699
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 2: is a little bit difficult. I just go back to

700
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 2: the team more than the schedule. And although I'm with

701
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 2: you on the defense, there's Sam Darnold behind an ify

702
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:38,759
Speaker 2: offensive line. Just to say that out loud, that just

703
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,919
Speaker 2: sounds all sorts of wrong. I'll take the plus money under,

704
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:42,840
Speaker 2: I'll take under seven and.

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00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,840
Speaker 1: That that's not a situation you want to be locked

706
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Speaker 1: into for seventeen games.

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Speaker 2: No, definitely not. He He's Jared Smith FSR betting analyst.

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Speaker 2: your screen.

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Speaker 1: All right.

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Speaker 2: Coming up next, the parlay platter riches out, but our

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00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 2: number of picks wet up. We'll have details for you

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Speaker 2: right around the corner. It is Fox Sports Radios Countdown

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Speaker 2: presented by BETMGM. It is Fox Sports Radios Countdown presented

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Speaker 2: by bet MGM. No time to waste, Let's dive into this.

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Speaker 4: Check this out parlay letter.

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Speaker 2: All right, so Jared the parlay platter. Normally each of

725
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,319
Speaker 2: us have one selection, we bool it together for a

726
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 2: greater payout. We're throwing that out the window. We got

727
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 2: our own parlays today, we're getting crazy. Where do you

728
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 2: look at that here? Today?

729
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 1: It's like when you go to the restaurant. Do you

730
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 1: want to order family style and share everything? Or I

731
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 1: want my own frickin entre no Today, i want my

732
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 1: own entree, I want my own chicken farm. And I'm

733
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 1: not charing with anyone. So I'm gonna give you a

734
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 1: playoff parla. One team in the college football world, one

735
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 1: team in the NFL world. Both teams to make their

736
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 1: respective playoffs. It's not the biggest payout, it's only plus

737
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 1: one thirty nine. But I think this is when you're

738
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 1: gonna sit on like an egg like a rooster hatching

739
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 1: hens or roosters, I don't know. I'm not a farmer,

740
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:31,279
Speaker 1: and then hopefully the egg will hatch and there will

741
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 1: be money inside of it come around January early January.

742
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 1: Let's start with college troball. Bama to make the playoff.

743
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:40,880
Speaker 1: This is minus one eighty five individually at bet MGM.

744
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:43,320
Speaker 1: This is year two of Klen de Bor. They missed

745
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:45,800
Speaker 1: the playoff. Last year, they had a nine to three record,

746
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 1: They were on the fence. They almost made the playoff,

747
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 1: but they lost to Vandy, Oklahoma and Tennessee. Yeah, that's

748
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 1: not gonna get it done. This year, they have pretty

749
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:56,840
Speaker 1: much everyone back except Giat Campbell, who is a rockstar defender.

750
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 1: But I think their defense is gonna be fine with

751
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:01,360
Speaker 1: Kane Wilmack, who is ascending as a very elite coordinator.

752
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 1: And of course no Daleen Milroe. I think that's a

753
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 1: positive as well. Most five stars of any team in

754
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:10,239
Speaker 1: college football on the two D. They have thirteen to

755
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:13,760
Speaker 1: five stars on the two D. They've got talent for days.

756
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:16,359
Speaker 1: We know last year was a transition year. Milroe did

757
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:18,319
Speaker 1: not fit into this offense. Now the board brings in

758
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 1: Ryan Grubb, you get Ty Simpson, who is an elite

759
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 1: thrower to the football. I think that offense going to

760
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 1: be humming this year. With Ryan Williams on the outside,

761
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 1: I've got man a favorite in eleven games. I think

762
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 1: the Georgia game on the road is going to be

763
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 1: a toss up, but I think they win every other game.

764
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 1: I think ten and two is very reasonable. I think

765
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 1: they're in the playoff. The Niners to make the playoffs.

766
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:40,319
Speaker 1: This is minus one to eighty individually, easiest schedule in

767
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 1: the league this year. The NFC is absolutely wide open.

768
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 1: They're coming off an injury play gear and the irony

769
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 1: is they only won six games, but they're actually the

770
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:52,759
Speaker 1: best eleven loss team in the history of DVA, So

771
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 1: I think if this team stays healthy, the floor is

772
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 1: significantly higher. They only got fifty seven snaps with cmc Iu,

773
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 1: Debo Kittle and pretty the field at the same time,

774
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 1: that will change this year. Niners to make the playoffs. Bam,

775
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:06,879
Speaker 1: gonna make the playoff plus one thirty nine at that.

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00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 2: MGM, okay, all right, I'm gonna go a little juicier

777
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 2: on you baseball wise some me if you like this

778
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 2: or not, so to me, listen the Brewers are playing

779
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 2: outstanding baseball. They found another way, another one right, so

780
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 2: it come back. They were down eight to one in

781
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 2: the second inning. They won. They've won thirteen in a row.

782
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 2: They're playing out of their minds right now. They're only

783
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 2: minus one twenty five on the road against the Reds today.

784
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 2: That to me stinks. So I'm gonna go the other way.

785
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:36,959
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take the one and a half. I'm gonna

786
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 2: go run line on the red plus one and a half.

787
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 2: Gotta keep it within one they least if they're losing.

788
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 2: I think they can do that. I think that the

789
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 2: win streak's got to end at some point. So that's

790
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 2: my juicy first leg. I'm gonna go with the Tigers.

791
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 2: Jimmy Casey maies on the on the bump here for

792
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 2: the Tigers, they're much better than the Twins. It's a

793
00:39:55,960 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 2: general rule of thumb. You fade the pitcher named Zei. Okay,

794
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 2: I'm fading Zebbi Zebbie Matthews. The Quins traded half their

795
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 2: team at the deadline because I'm going Tigers here, and

796
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 2: then give me the under. In this Yankees Cardinals game,

797
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 2: Max freed Sonny Gray under seven and a half all

798
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:16,799
Speaker 2: those legs plus four seventy three.

799
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:20,720
Speaker 1: Jared Nice, I like it. Hey, listen, you pay out today,

800
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:22,720
Speaker 1: I'll pay out in January. Call it today.

801
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 2: There we go, all right, nice, all right? Comeing up next?

802
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:29,400
Speaker 2: Who are the three most interesting NFL players this year?

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00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 7: Oh?

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00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 2: What is going on? Happy Saturday to you. Hope everything

805
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:37,759
Speaker 2: is going swimming? Lea, no rich today. Sorry to be

806
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 2: the bearer of bad news. He's out, but Jared and

807
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 2: myself are in and that should be good enough. Right,

808
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 2: it should be good enough.

809
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 1: Man.

810
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll get to the three most interesting NFL players

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00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,320
Speaker 2: this season in just a minute. Hey, be sure to

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819
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:20,799
Speaker 2: interesting NFL players? Now here's the deal, Jared, We're not

820
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 2: talking about the three best, Yeah, the three most interesting.

821
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 2: Like driving conversation, these guys are gonna be a consistent

822
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 2: focal point throughout the year, So we're we're prognosticating, if

823
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 2: you will, But who do you think are gonna be

824
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 2: the three rock stars that we are focusing on, weighing

825
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 2: in on. You know, people turn on sports radio or

826
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:45,440
Speaker 2: sports TV and these these guys are just front and

827
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 2: center commonly, who do you think it's gonna be.

828
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 1: I won't take the low hanging fruit with Shador because

829
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 1: that doesn't interest me that much because I don't think

830
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 1: he's gonna play a whole lot this year. At least.

831
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 1: I think the Browns hope he doesn't play, because that

832
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 1: means that Flacco just spins off the earth. I think

833
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 1: Caleb Williams is the number one on my list. I

834
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:09,800
Speaker 1: think he is the perfect mix of talent and ceiling

835
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 1: in addition to the narrative. And when you look at

836
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 1: what Caleb the potential this year, I think it's more

837
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 1: about the marriage between him and Ben Johnson than anything else.

838
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 1: I think it will look better because it can't look

839
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:28,320
Speaker 1: much worse. But I still have some doubts about consistency.

840
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 1: I still have some doubts about how quickly the scheme will,

841
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 1: you know, kind of formalize itself. But I think Caleb

842
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:39,360
Speaker 1: Williams is definitely on that list. I think JJ McCarthy's

843
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:42,839
Speaker 1: the other one, yeah, And I think it's because of

844
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 1: the unknown that makes his situation so fascinating and just

845
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 1: how good his coaches. I mean, I think of all

846
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 1: the coaches in the league, I'll be honest, I might

847
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:56,719
Speaker 1: put Kevin O'Connell at number one. It's a tough it's

848
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:59,839
Speaker 1: a tough ask because you got guys like Reid and

849
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:01,919
Speaker 1: you know, other really good coaches that are I think,

850
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 1: you know, very much established. But what O'Connell did last

851
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:09,879
Speaker 1: year was Sam Darnold. I mean it is again he

852
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:11,839
Speaker 1: won Coach of the Year despite the fact he didn't

853
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:14,240
Speaker 1: even win his division and a team in his division

854
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:16,319
Speaker 1: at fifteen wins, and he's still won Coach of the Year.

855
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 1: Like that's how good it was. And that was tight race,

856
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 1: but he's still one coach of the year despite of

857
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 1: the Lions great great heights and what Dan Campbell was

858
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:27,439
Speaker 1: able to accomplish. The third one is tough. I think

859
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:29,839
Speaker 1: there's I think there's a couple of guys I would

860
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 1: put in this list, but just because I'm high on

861
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 1: this particular team and I'm hoping that I get a

862
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 1: lot of intrigue out of this player. It's Gino Smith,

863
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 1: and it's more about Chip Kelly than Gino Smith. I

864
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 1: think Vegas has a chance to really surprise some people.

865
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:50,880
Speaker 1: I really do. I think that offense is going to

866
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 1: be considerably better this year. And I think Gino he's

867
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 1: he is a guy that has constantly proven people wrong.

868
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 1: He got brushed out from the Jets, ends up in Seattle,

869
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 1: renovates his career and really in a situation that I

870
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 1: thought he should have probably maybe not probably, I don't

871
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 1: know what the contract stuff was behind the scenes, but

872
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 1: I would have liked to see him get a chance

873
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 1: in Seattle with McDonald. I think McDonald inherited Gino from

874
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 1: the Pete Carroll era and he wanted to really put

875
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 1: his stamp on this team. But he replaced him with

876
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 1: Sam Donald, which I think is a step down. So

877
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:32,760
Speaker 1: I think Gino has got that chip on his shoulder,

878
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:37,239
Speaker 1: and yeah, pair him with Kelly and Genty and Bowers.

879
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 1: I mean, I think that offense is gonna be really

880
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:41,319
Speaker 1: interesting and if Vegas can figure out way to sneak

881
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:42,800
Speaker 1: into the playoffs, that's gonna be one of the stories

882
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 1: of the year.

883
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 2: Wow, that is a wild card selection right now.

884
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:48,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, the third one was tough the first reasons the

885
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 1: third one was tough.

886
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 2: I'm gonna start it off where my three most interesting

887
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:55,879
Speaker 2: players this year in terms of not just who I'm

888
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 2: interested in, what I think that the players who I

889
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:03,880
Speaker 2: think will drive conversation consistently. Number one is a freaking layup.

890
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:07,879
Speaker 2: It is Caleb Williams, the Bears quarterback, where whatever he

891
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 2: does is gonna be front and center. And that's where

892
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:13,360
Speaker 2: it differs with Shaduur. I wanted to put Shador in

893
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:18,320
Speaker 2: my top three. I couldn't quite get there because with Shaduur,

894
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 2: there's gonna be some intrigue. I don't think he's gonna

895
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 2: play a ton There's gonna be some intrigue even if

896
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 2: he's not playing, because I expect the Browns to be bad,

897
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 2: and it's gonna be Hey, what about Shador? What do

898
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 2: you think about it? Do you think he might play?

899
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 2: You know, what do you think Shadoor? So he's gonna

900
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:35,400
Speaker 2: be a talking point even without playing, and then certainly

901
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 2: a main focal point if he is playing. But that

902
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 2: dynamic I know Caleb Williams is playing all year as

903
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 2: long as he's healthy, and when you have a new

904
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:49,879
Speaker 2: head coach, all the scrutiny, like we're breaking down him

905
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:53,239
Speaker 2: throwing into a net in training camp. You know, he's

906
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 2: the most scrutinized player in the NFL right now. So

907
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 2: if he's playing great, they're gonna get a lot of

908
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:00,879
Speaker 2: people like, oh, what do you have to say now

909
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:04,359
Speaker 2: about Caleb Williams? All your neaysayers, right, that's gonna be there.

910
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 2: And if he's still playing mediocre football, that's gonna drive

911
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 2: conversation as well as Caleb Williams is certainly gonna be

912
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:14,799
Speaker 2: a focal point all year long. I agree with you

913
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 2: on JJ McCarthy also, yeah, and a lot of it

914
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 2: traces back to last season. That's a fourteen win team

915
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 2: and it is go time. And he hasn't thrown an

916
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 2: NFL pass in a regular season game yet. So if

917
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 2: he's struggling here and there, let's say he throws a

918
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 2: big interception when the game's on the line early on,

919
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 2: it's gonna be a big time story. Let's say he's

920
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 2: playing great right away. He's got a lot of talent

921
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 2: around him. That's possible too, and it's gonna be like, man,

922
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:45,400
Speaker 2: what are the Vikings capable of doing YadA YadA. So

923
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:48,279
Speaker 2: I think JJ McCarthy is gonna be there. And you're right,

924
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 2: there are a lot of candidates for the third player

925
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 2: that's the most interesting guy this year. I'm gonna go

926
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 2: with Aaron Rodgers because I think there are a lot

927
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:01,320
Speaker 2: of ways for us to get there. I think, listen,

928
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 2: if he's playing well and the Steelers are winning games,

929
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:07,279
Speaker 2: that's gonna be talked about. If he looks like a

930
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:10,839
Speaker 2: shell of himself, that's gonna be talked about. You know,

931
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:13,880
Speaker 2: if he's on Pat McAfee's show. As far as I know,

932
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 2: the Jets were the ones that were like, Nope, can't

933
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:18,360
Speaker 2: do that anymore. I don't know that the Steelers have

934
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 2: said that. So if he's doing these weekly hits and

935
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 2: he's gonna say something at some point, they lose a

936
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:25,799
Speaker 2: game and he's like, yeah, it'd be nice if Mike

937
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 2: Williams ran the right route, you know what I mean,

938
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 2: like he did last year, He's gonna say something like

939
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 2: that this year. So that's gonna spruce it up a

940
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 2: little bit. I think there are ways for us to

941
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 2: get home. With Aaron Rodgers being a top three most

942
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 2: interesting player this year. I don't know. It could go

943
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 2: the other way too, because we're kind of just over it.

944
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 2: And if that's a middling team, we're not expecting great

945
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 2: results from him individually or the team. And if that's

946
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:51,279
Speaker 2: kind of what we're getting, it's not gonna be a

947
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:53,759
Speaker 2: huge focal point. But I just think he's gonna say

948
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 2: something at some point, and I think his game is

949
00:47:57,480 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 2: gonna be interesting enough we're gonna focus on him. I

950
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 2: just don't He's the He's the the player. We just

951
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 2: can't quit. As much as we want to dismiss him.

952
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:09,399
Speaker 2: It's like, Eh, it's almost like Sports Radio Jared, where

953
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:11,399
Speaker 2: someone calls in and like, why are you still talking

954
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 2: about Aaron Rodgers And here's my opinion about Aaron Rodgers

955
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 2: while we're right, like, it's that dynamic with him.

956
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm just scarred from last year with the Rogers stuff,

957
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:25,840
Speaker 1: but I agree one hundred percent like he is going

958
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:28,839
Speaker 1: to be front and center no matter what, unless there's

959
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 1: some kind of injury. I just I wanted to get

960
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 1: away from that narrative. And I there's so many other players,

961
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 1: like here's my honorable mentions, Yeah on this list. Sure,

962
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:40,840
Speaker 1: Herbert has to be an honorable mention. I mean the

963
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 1: there is a sky high expectation with the Chargers. I

964
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:47,399
Speaker 1: have heard so many people love this team to death,

965
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 1: and when I dig into the numbers, I see a

966
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:53,880
Speaker 1: very mediocre quarterback, especially fourth quarter close games.

967
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:54,280
Speaker 2: Wow.

968
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 1: I mean they were zero and seven in their last

969
00:48:57,000 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 1: seven games decided by a field goal. I mean that's crazy,

970
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 1: Like you figured you'd luck box your way into one

971
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 1: of those wins. They would have had the second best

972
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 1: record in the league last year if the game ended

973
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 1: after three quarters. No other team trailed in fewer games

974
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:12,319
Speaker 1: entering the fourth quarter. And when you have Harball, you're

975
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:16,239
Speaker 1: always center, You're always front and center. Herbert isn't a

976
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 1: front and center personality, but he has to step into

977
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 1: that spotlight. I think in order for the Chargers to

978
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 1: reach their goal. I think Stafford's the other one because

979
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:28,479
Speaker 1: of the injury. Is there a team outside of maybe

980
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:32,359
Speaker 1: the Dolphins, where the starting quarterback goes down and it's

981
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 1: just like, man, like, we have nothing here and Devonte

982
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:39,759
Speaker 1: Adams who goes from you know, basically hell in Vegas

983
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:43,880
Speaker 1: to La where you have at least the semblance to

984
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:47,399
Speaker 1: crawl out of hell. If it's imagined, if he goes

985
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:50,359
Speaker 1: from Vegas. Then that quarterback situation last year finally gets out,

986
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:53,239
Speaker 1: goes to the Jets disaster. Now he's a free eight.

987
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 1: Now he's in LA And then you get Stafford Hurt

988
00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 1: and Jimmy G's your quarterback. Like It's just I think

989
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:01,480
Speaker 1: that situation has a chance to also be front and

990
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:04,400
Speaker 1: center top of mine because of just how fragile the

991
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:06,920
Speaker 1: quarterback situation is. And I'll give you one more to

992
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 1: the negative that I think is going to be fascinating.

993
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 1: In fact, I think this one should have been in

994
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:16,280
Speaker 1: my top three. Jalen Hurts okay, And the reason why

995
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 1: is not because of how good he is. He's fantastic.

996
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 1: It's because of what's happening behind the scenes with the

997
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 1: Eagles offense. First of all, AJ Brown's dealing with a hamstring.

998
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 1: I hope he gets better, but that's not something I

999
00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 1: want to see soft tissue before the season even starts. Second,

1000
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 1: the most interesting hire to me in this NFL offseason

1001
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:38,440
Speaker 1: besides Chip Kelly is Scott Loeffler. Who's Scott Loeffler. He

1002
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:41,880
Speaker 1: is the quarterbacks coach of the Eagles. Last year he

1003
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:45,759
Speaker 1: was the head coach at Bowling Green. How often do

1004
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:49,440
Speaker 1: you see a mac head coach make the jump to

1005
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:54,440
Speaker 1: the NFL to work with the defending Super Bowl champion quarterback.

1006
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 1: You have a very odd situation on offense for the Eagles.

1007
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 1: They promote to Petullo from within, Kellen Moore's in New Orleans.

1008
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 1: I would not be surprised if there's a little bit

1009
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 1: of uncertainty in that Eagles offensive. Remember, Sirianni and Hurts

1010
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 1: don't work well one on one. We've established this. Yeah,

1011
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 1: that's why Kellen Moore was brought in, and he kind

1012
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:17,399
Speaker 1: of saved the ship there. But now you're promoting from within.

1013
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:20,239
Speaker 1: So Petullo's kind of a Sirianni guy and he's the

1014
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:22,880
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator. So what's that dynamic going to look like

1015
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 1: between Hurts, Petullo, and Sirianni. I think that's why they

1016
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:29,480
Speaker 1: brought in Laffler, who is more experienced than Petullo. Has

1017
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 1: coached in the NFL before he coached Tom Brady coached

1018
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 1: him Tebow in college. I think that's a really interesting

1019
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:38,960
Speaker 1: situation that could deteriorate very fast for the defending Jams.

1020
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, I'm not high on Hurtz. Like that's the

1021
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:46,080
Speaker 2: off season chatter is like who's QB five because most

1022
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:50,360
Speaker 2: people have in some certain order, most have like Mahomes

1023
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:53,960
Speaker 2: and Josh Allen Burrow and Lamar some sort of order there,

1024
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:56,759
Speaker 2: and then it becomes well, who's five on the list,

1025
00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:59,239
Speaker 2: and a lot of people believe it's Jalen Hurts. I

1026
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:01,239
Speaker 2: am not one of those people. And I don't want

1027
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 2: to make it sound like he's just some dog quarterback

1028
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:08,040
Speaker 2: because he's not. But he is operating a high performance

1029
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:11,719
Speaker 2: sports car in terms of the talent around him. And

1030
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:14,719
Speaker 2: this idea that he's the same quarterback if what you

1031
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:17,320
Speaker 2: put him on the Titans this year and he's gonna

1032
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 2: just put up numbers and spruce up the offense. I

1033
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:22,319
Speaker 2: don't think he's that guy at all. I think he's

1034
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:25,399
Speaker 2: good if you have a lot around him. But if

1035
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:30,279
Speaker 2: Saquon Barkley after four hundred plus touches last year, if

1036
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 2: he running for two thousand again, no, no, no, how

1037
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 2: about this stat.

1038
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:38,200
Speaker 1: This Dat's gonna blow your mind. So the play callers

1039
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:41,319
Speaker 1: for Jalen Hurts, He's had six different ones in six

1040
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:44,960
Speaker 1: years in the league, Doug Peterson, Sirianni Stike and Johnson

1041
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:47,879
Speaker 1: Kellymore now Patulo you go back to college. He's had

1042
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:51,840
Speaker 1: twelve play callers in ten seasons at the collegiate and

1043
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:56,240
Speaker 1: professional levels. So I just give him credit for learning

1044
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:59,440
Speaker 1: all of these new offenses and the new verbiage. I

1045
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:03,799
Speaker 1: think I'll be honest Philly to miss the playoffs, Philly underwins.

1046
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:08,400
Speaker 1: I am not sold on this Eagles offense just picking

1047
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 1: up and going right back to what they did last year.

1048
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:14,719
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, that's my thing. Man, If there's more on

1049
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:18,839
Speaker 2: his shoulders, right, if Saquan takes a noticeable step back

1050
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 2: because the wear and teil, let's say he gets dinged

1051
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 2: up a little bit, or just you know the amount

1052
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 2: of carries, dude, that's it's insane to maintain that type

1053
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 2: of workload in that type of production. So if there's

1054
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 2: more on Jalen Hurts shoulders, because Saquan isn't a two

1055
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 2: thousand yard back anymore. You mentioned the aj Brown Hammy issue.

1056
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:42,960
Speaker 2: I don't know, man, it's just passing wise. He leaves

1057
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:44,719
Speaker 2: a lot to be desired. A lot of times he's

1058
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:47,520
Speaker 2: going the wrong place with the football. I just don't

1059
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:50,120
Speaker 2: love him, you know, I certainly don't have him as

1060
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:52,400
Speaker 2: a top five quarterback. You can make an argument in

1061
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 2: my mind for top ten. But that's the ceiling right

1062
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:58,839
Speaker 2: now for Jalen Hurts. So I hear you, though. If

1063
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 2: they take a step back collectively as a team and

1064
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 2: he's scuffling, he's going to be talked about quite a bit.

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00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:08,680
Speaker 1: Yeah. Sure, And that offense was Siriani doing his antics

1066
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 1: all right? Goodness?

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00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so he could be He's a legit candidate

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00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:16,320
Speaker 2: for the like one of the three most interesting players

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00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:19,239
Speaker 2: this season. I could see that happening. Be fun. Like

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00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 2: Jayden Daniel's another candidate here. Yeah, if he continues the

1071
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:23,200
Speaker 2: stellar player.

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00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:25,319
Speaker 1: Put every quarterback on this list. Really, you can make

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00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 1: a case for all of them. Almost.

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00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 2: We should do like a top three most interesting non

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00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 2: quarterback list.

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00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:33,279
Speaker 1: Oh, that would be a tougher list. That would be

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00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:35,120
Speaker 1: a tougher list. That would be a much tougher list.

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00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:37,080
Speaker 2: We might have to do that at some players. We

1079
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:38,640
Speaker 2: will shoehorn that in sometimes.

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00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 1: Yeah. I like that. I'd be interested Rich's thoughts on

1081
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:44,360
Speaker 1: that because he has a much more deeper background to

1082
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 1: some of the especially the beefy boys up front. I

1083
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:50,800
Speaker 1: think some of the defensive linemen are really interesting. I

1084
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:53,319
Speaker 1: think those are some of the more interesting personalities in

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00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:54,080
Speaker 1: the league for sure.

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00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:57,160
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, well hey uh, there are a lot more

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00:54:57,200 --> 00:55:01,319
Speaker 2: storylines behind besides quarterbacks, you know, and there are some

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00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:04,160
Speaker 2: dudes like Michaeh Parsons been talked about, like Frank once

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00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:07,839
Speaker 2: he finally gets you know, signed, and if he's productive

1090
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:09,000
Speaker 2: and all that buy any of.

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00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 1: The Packers smoke that they are interested in trade for him. No,

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00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 1: I kind of.

1093
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:14,640
Speaker 2: Kind of miss me.

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00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 1: The Packers interesting, the pack I.

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00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 2: Love it, Like behind them, it's it says insure carefully,

1096
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 2: you know, something like that. It's one of the sponsors.

1097
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 2: I'm like, that could not be a more fitting sponsor

1098
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:29,560
Speaker 2: for the Packers who are like, let's not go crazy,

1099
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:32,840
Speaker 2: let's not make a trade for a well known wide receiver.

1100
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:36,040
Speaker 2: Let's think about the next three seasons. And now all

1101
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:38,080
Speaker 2: of a sudden, they're just going all in for Micah.

1102
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:43,960
Speaker 1: I'll believe that. I thought we would. We didn't mention Dak. Yeah, yeah,

1103
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:46,399
Speaker 1: I mean doesn't move the needle for you.

1104
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:49,360
Speaker 2: He's gonna be talked about. He always is. The Cowboys

1105
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:52,920
Speaker 2: always are. But I mean it's just it's Dak, you know,

1106
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:57,000
Speaker 2: it's he's good. He's just not sizzle, you know.

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00:55:57,200 --> 00:56:02,160
Speaker 1: It's so I'm under on Dallas. Year. I'm over on Dallas. Oh,

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00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:04,120
Speaker 1: I love the over on the Cowboy. Might be I

1109
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:06,120
Speaker 1: might be wrong about that though, hold on, I might

1110
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:07,839
Speaker 1: be wrong. I gotta check my win total. I don't

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00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:14,440
Speaker 1: haven't bet a lot of them this year. Dallas, Dallas, Dallas, Dallas, Dallas, Dallas. Yeah,

1112
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:17,760
Speaker 1: I am. I'm over on Dallas. Actually, I haven't projected

1113
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:21,200
Speaker 1: for eight and now seven and a half. Just barely over, barely.

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00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:22,880
Speaker 2: This is the one year you get a discount.

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00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:24,719
Speaker 1: This is the yes, you do get a discount on

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00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:26,680
Speaker 1: Dallas this year. So I think I'm over. Good call.

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Speaker 2: I saw this headline where the NBA and their Players

1141
00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:50,000
Speaker 2: Association they support limits on certain bets to curb manipulation

1142
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:53,840
Speaker 2: and abuse by gamblers. These dirty, rotten gamblers over here.

1143
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:57,120
Speaker 2: We want to limit their options. My question is how

1144
00:57:57,200 --> 00:58:00,480
Speaker 2: much poll do they actually have. How much in influence

1145
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:03,240
Speaker 2: did they actually have to make something like this happen.

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00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:10,680
Speaker 6: It all comes down to the states, for one. I

1147
00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:14,200
Speaker 6: mean there were a few leagues in the past that

1148
00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:19,200
Speaker 6: have like requested operators to you know, pull certain markets.

1149
00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:24,080
Speaker 6: You can think back to MLS requesting card markets for

1150
00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:28,439
Speaker 6: some states to be down. But I will see where

1151
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:31,240
Speaker 6: it goes. I mean, our player prop offering at MGM

1152
00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:34,000
Speaker 6: isn't necessarily even close to what we offer for the NBA,

1153
00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:37,760
Speaker 6: and it's only for like really you know, bigger players

1154
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:39,960
Speaker 6: that are playing in the game. So we'll see where

1155
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:40,400
Speaker 6: that goes.

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00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:46,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the ban all props people like that,

1157
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:49,720
Speaker 1: to me doesn't make sense. Now I think banning no

1158
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:52,280
Speaker 1: props also doesn't make sense. Like, I think there's a

1159
00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:56,120
Speaker 1: gray area here. And I think those micro markets really

1160
00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 1: are the ones that are troublesome. To me, the initial

1161
00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:02,240
Speaker 1: pitch of an inning to be this the are you

1162
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:03,680
Speaker 1: going to make this next?

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00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:03,880
Speaker 2: Like?

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00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:08,400
Speaker 1: To me, like those really micro markets really is the

1165
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:10,000
Speaker 1: best word that I can use for them are the

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00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:13,840
Speaker 1: ones that I think are the most manipulating, manipulative or

1167
00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:17,000
Speaker 1: easily manipulated. As I can get my words together, it

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00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:19,960
Speaker 1: makes sense to ban those prop shamus. But I think

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00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:23,000
Speaker 1: banning all props just it just like we're going too

1170
00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:25,080
Speaker 1: far to the other side of the spectrum here. Does

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00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:25,800
Speaker 1: that make sense to you?

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00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:29,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, And like the w NBA isn't even sport that

1173
00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:35,000
Speaker 6: has any micro market at least most of the industry,

1174
00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:38,680
Speaker 6: I can say that. So yeah, I don't know how

1175
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:42,480
Speaker 6: much it's going to matter in the long run unless

1176
00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:45,360
Speaker 6: we start seeing a lot of shops really ramp up

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00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:48,080
Speaker 6: the offering in terms of the WNBA, like you see

1178
00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:51,600
Speaker 6: in the NBA, like well a player make make their

1179
00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:54,120
Speaker 6: first shot? I know there is you know, a bunch

1180
00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:56,640
Speaker 6: of viral clips of people betting that on a couple

1181
00:59:56,680 --> 01:00:00,640
Speaker 6: of sportsbook rangel reef. Yeah, but you know from a

1182
01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:03,480
Speaker 6: lot of the bigger ones like us, like we don't

1183
01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:07,320
Speaker 6: really offer that. So it's few and far between the

1184
01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:09,400
Speaker 6: first and the WNB a go. So it's interesting to

1185
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:12,040
Speaker 6: see what props they would want to get rid of.

1186
01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:16,240
Speaker 2: As far as season win totals in the NFL, seamous,

1187
01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:18,800
Speaker 2: now is the time. Now's the time to strike. I

1188
01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:22,680
Speaker 2: know you've been you know down on the Washington Commanders

1189
01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:26,080
Speaker 2: like taking the under there you're fading them. Is that

1190
01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:29,440
Speaker 2: the season win total you are strongest on or is

1191
01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:32,560
Speaker 2: there another one that you feel most passionately about, whether

1192
01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:34,400
Speaker 2: it's an over or an under for the season.

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01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:40,760
Speaker 6: That's probably the strongest one I have. I despise them,

1194
01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:45,560
Speaker 6: but I really think the New England Patriots can cash

1195
01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:47,720
Speaker 6: that wind total over. I know there's a few trends

1196
01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:50,960
Speaker 6: out there say, like a team like them, it'd be

1197
01:00:51,160 --> 01:00:53,640
Speaker 6: really hard for them to go, you know, a team

1198
01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:55,680
Speaker 6: in their mold to go over their win total with

1199
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Speaker 6: a second year QB. But it's the schedule's really easy

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01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:02,360
Speaker 6: and reason. I also like the Niners. I think the

1201
01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:04,720
Speaker 6: Niners can win thirteen games this year if they just

1202
01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:08,720
Speaker 6: stay healthy. They really drew a great schedule for them.

1203
01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:11,880
Speaker 6: And I guess another one I had to pick, I

1204
01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:14,520
Speaker 6: could see the lines going under their win total. I

1205
01:01:14,560 --> 01:01:17,000
Speaker 6: don't hate a flyer on the lines to miss the playoffs. Honestly,

1206
01:01:17,560 --> 01:01:21,040
Speaker 6: they have a massive rest advantage, one we haven't seen

1207
01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:25,080
Speaker 6: before in terms of rest advantage on schedules. But it's

1208
01:01:25,120 --> 01:01:27,840
Speaker 6: a gauntlet of a schedule. If to play opponent wise

1209
01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:30,600
Speaker 6: and you lose both coordinators, a bunch of staff from

1210
01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:32,800
Speaker 6: both sides of the ball, it's going to be really

1211
01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:36,040
Speaker 6: interesting to see how they fare. Hopefully, for their sake,

1212
01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:38,520
Speaker 6: they can get some injury luck on the defensive side,

1213
01:01:38,560 --> 01:01:40,920
Speaker 6: but as far as the offense goes, they've been pretty

1214
01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:43,520
Speaker 6: healthy there for a while too, so we'll see how

1215
01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:44,400
Speaker 6: that shakes out too.

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01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:48,080
Speaker 1: You know, it's funny. I'm glad you mentioned the rest advantage.

1217
01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:52,120
Speaker 1: So a lot is made of that, and I've heard

1218
01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:55,800
Speaker 1: very sharp people on both sides of the aisle about

1219
01:01:56,000 --> 01:01:59,920
Speaker 1: how much the rest advantage or disadvantage actually matters. In

1220
01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:02,400
Speaker 1: the NFL. There's some interesting data that says the bye

1221
01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:06,680
Speaker 1: week has not been as beneficial lately because the new CBA.

1222
01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:10,160
Speaker 1: You're not, you know, forced to practice all the time,

1223
01:02:10,720 --> 01:02:13,680
Speaker 1: and that kind of takes the you know, it takes

1224
01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:16,439
Speaker 1: the impetus off of the teams that have the bye week.

1225
01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:19,240
Speaker 1: They usually kind of get off the reservation for a

1226
01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:21,080
Speaker 1: whole week, and they don't, you know, sometimes it's actually

1227
01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:25,240
Speaker 1: it doesn't help them. What's your stance on the rest advantage?

1228
01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:28,640
Speaker 1: Do you think it is very much impactful actionable a

1229
01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:30,400
Speaker 1: team as a rest advantage? I want to be on

1230
01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:33,040
Speaker 1: that team? Or is it kind of back and forth?

1231
01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:37,280
Speaker 1: Sometimes it matters, sometimes it doesn't. I go back and.

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Speaker 6: Forth, like it's tough, Like I think certain spots, like

1233
01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:43,000
Speaker 6: you have a team like the Jets last year who

1234
01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:45,480
Speaker 6: opened up with three games, and like the span of

1235
01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:50,080
Speaker 6: fifteen or fourteen days, like it's that can seem a

1236
01:02:50,120 --> 01:02:52,920
Speaker 6: little taxing, But like I think it all depends on

1237
01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:55,040
Speaker 6: the team. A lot of it depends on the coaching staff.

1238
01:02:55,520 --> 01:02:57,440
Speaker 6: Like it is a really good coaching staff, they'll have

1239
01:02:57,520 --> 01:02:59,600
Speaker 6: their guys ready to play. I wouldn't doubt that the

1240
01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:03,040
Speaker 6: can be an advantage, but like it's a poor wea

1241
01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:06,560
Speaker 6: coach team, Like how much rest is? How much is

1242
01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:07,240
Speaker 6: the restkeing the matter?

1243
01:03:07,360 --> 01:03:12,040
Speaker 2: Essentially, I'm curious, Seamus, how you approach a winning streak,

1244
01:03:12,240 --> 01:03:15,160
Speaker 2: because this could apply to any sport, a team that's hot.

1245
01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:17,840
Speaker 2: We'll take the Brewers right now. They've been playing out

1246
01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:21,280
Speaker 2: of their minds thirteen straight wins. They came back from

1247
01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:24,320
Speaker 2: an eight to one deficit in the second inning last

1248
01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:28,360
Speaker 2: night to win again. How do you approach that? Do

1249
01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:30,880
Speaker 2: you take that into great account where they're only minus

1250
01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:33,919
Speaker 2: one twenty five on the money line even though they've

1251
01:03:33,960 --> 01:03:36,000
Speaker 2: won all these games, are on the road against the

1252
01:03:36,040 --> 01:03:39,160
Speaker 2: Reds today. Do you look at that and say, you know,

1253
01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:41,160
Speaker 2: I don't want to be a sucker and go with

1254
01:03:41,280 --> 01:03:43,440
Speaker 2: the Brewers to win because it's going to end at

1255
01:03:43,520 --> 01:03:45,560
Speaker 2: some point. Or are you looking and say, well, I

1256
01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:47,400
Speaker 2: don't want to be a sucker and take the reds

1257
01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:49,720
Speaker 2: and the Brewers win again. Or do you put that

1258
01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:52,120
Speaker 2: to the side and you don't even really hone in

1259
01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:54,080
Speaker 2: on that. How do you approach a team that's red

1260
01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:55,680
Speaker 2: hot and won a bunch of games in a row.

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Speaker 6: Personally, when it comes to MI handicapping a numbers guy,

1262
01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:04,040
Speaker 6: but I could really care less how many games you

1263
01:04:04,120 --> 01:04:06,240
Speaker 6: know a team is one or lost in a row.

1264
01:04:06,680 --> 01:04:08,760
Speaker 6: It all depends on the on the opponents they're going

1265
01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:10,520
Speaker 6: against that day. And in this case that you know

1266
01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:13,200
Speaker 6: the pitcher and the lineups are going against, you know

1267
01:04:13,240 --> 01:04:15,520
Speaker 6: where's the game is on the road. How do they

1268
01:04:15,600 --> 01:04:19,000
Speaker 6: play more in tune to that? Just because you know

1269
01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:21,840
Speaker 6: these are standalone events, just because of one yesterday doesn't

1270
01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:24,520
Speaker 6: make you to give you a better advantage to winning

1271
01:04:24,560 --> 01:04:25,080
Speaker 6: the next day.

1272
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Speaker 1: That's the gambler's fallacy. Honestly, what you just said is

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Speaker 1: literally the gamblers fallacy. So you know you set up

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01:04:32,200 --> 01:04:35,280
Speaker 1: ten you know coin flips, you have ten straight tails.

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01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:37,320
Speaker 1: The gambler's fallacy as all the next one has to

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01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:39,640
Speaker 1: be heads right now. Actually it's fifty to fifty. Both

1277
01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:43,320
Speaker 1: sides could be heads, could be taiales. Speaking of ten

1278
01:04:43,400 --> 01:04:45,200
Speaker 1: in a row, it's really more like sixteen out of

1279
01:04:45,240 --> 01:04:49,720
Speaker 1: eighteen the overs in the preseason shame is goodness, gracious,

1280
01:04:50,120 --> 01:04:53,200
Speaker 1: you guys are probably getting killed because the public loves

1281
01:04:53,240 --> 01:04:56,160
Speaker 1: to bet the over. The question is are we going

1282
01:04:56,200 --> 01:04:58,400
Speaker 1: to reach a point? And I would imagine yes has

1283
01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:00,320
Speaker 1: to be the answer where the numbers just move up

1284
01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:02,240
Speaker 1: so much that the games have to stay under. Although

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01:05:02,320 --> 01:05:04,640
Speaker 1: last night the games flew over the total like it

1286
01:05:04,760 --> 01:05:06,880
Speaker 1: wasn't even close. There was literally no doubt in either

1287
01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:08,760
Speaker 1: game that they were going over. This has to be

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01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:10,840
Speaker 1: one of the stranger streaks you've seen in the preseason.

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01:05:12,160 --> 01:05:14,680
Speaker 6: And it feels like you're definitely seeing a market correction there,

1290
01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:18,120
Speaker 6: Like these totals seem way higher than like a few

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01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:20,160
Speaker 6: years ago, Like there's nothing under thirty five and a

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01:05:20,200 --> 01:05:24,680
Speaker 6: half like on the board today, So pretty crazy. I

1293
01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:27,520
Speaker 6: do think we might get to a point where maybe

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01:05:27,560 --> 01:05:31,360
Speaker 6: we dial it Backenouch, just because I do feel like,

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01:05:31,640 --> 01:05:34,520
Speaker 6: I mean, this feels high, like I'm reading stuff coming

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Speaker 6: out of the Jets Giants joint practices where it's like

1297
01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:40,200
Speaker 6: the offenses just can't do anything, and the total sitting

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01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:43,440
Speaker 6: at thirty nine and a half today, Now.

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Speaker 2: We go right into a sham as special?

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Speaker 4: Is that it?

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01:05:46,320 --> 01:05:48,320
Speaker 2: Or are you going somewhere else for that pick today?

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01:05:49,320 --> 01:05:51,840
Speaker 6: It is? I like the under in the Snoopy bull

1303
01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:52,760
Speaker 6: it met on today.

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01:05:53,160 --> 01:05:54,240
Speaker 4: I think it's a good point.

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01:05:55,240 --> 01:05:59,320
Speaker 6: I hope the Jets backups looked really good against you know,

1306
01:05:59,400 --> 01:06:03,480
Speaker 6: Malik Willis and Clifford for the Packers last week. I

1307
01:06:03,560 --> 01:06:06,800
Speaker 6: know it's the'll probably step up in class quarterback wise

1308
01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:11,640
Speaker 6: with with Dart Winston and Devido going today, but I

1309
01:06:11,680 --> 01:06:13,480
Speaker 6: don't know. Thirty nine and a half seems a lot

1310
01:06:13,880 --> 01:06:15,360
Speaker 6: I liked. I don't know what are we going to

1311
01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:17,680
Speaker 6: get from Adrian Martinez and Brady Cook today as well,

1312
01:06:17,840 --> 01:06:19,880
Speaker 6: so we'll see. I like under thirty nine and a

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01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:21,800
Speaker 6: half points there, all right there?

1314
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Speaker 2: It is great stuff is always seamous and hopefully that undercash.

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Speaker 1: Is for you like it?

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Speaker 2: Good stuff?

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Speaker 4: Thanks guys, we go one you too.

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Speaker 2: There is Seamus McGee, team lead of Sports Trading at

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Speaker 3: One out.

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Speaker 4: Nobody on won one pitch that swung on and well

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Speaker 4: here tepe to slight right center.

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Speaker 2: That ball is gone.

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Speaker 3: It's a home run Porteosker Hernandez and.

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Speaker 1: It's three to one Dodgers.

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Speaker 2: ever see pet owners like like my girlfriend will do this.

1337
01:07:29,360 --> 01:07:32,200
Speaker 2: We have Oreo, the neighborhood cat. You'll come visit us.

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01:07:32,320 --> 01:07:35,600
Speaker 2: You know, she's awesome. She's hanging out right now taking

1339
01:07:35,640 --> 01:07:39,120
Speaker 2: a nap. You know, it's like she loves sports radio

1340
01:07:39,440 --> 01:07:41,680
Speaker 2: in the morning and she just kind of zones out

1341
01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:44,840
Speaker 2: right there. But my girlfriend shol so grab Oreo's tail

1342
01:07:45,160 --> 01:07:47,600
Speaker 2: and like kind of flick it in Oreo's face and

1343
01:07:47,640 --> 01:07:50,600
Speaker 2: then she might bite the tail. You ever have like

1344
01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:53,680
Speaker 2: pet owners that do something like that, right, this is

1345
01:07:53,800 --> 01:07:57,040
Speaker 2: kind of like me doing that to you, Okay, like

1346
01:07:58,160 --> 01:08:00,920
Speaker 2: and you might like start chasing your tail. I know

1347
01:08:01,080 --> 01:08:03,600
Speaker 2: how you feel about your Penn State Nitney Lions.

1348
01:08:03,800 --> 01:08:04,080
Speaker 1: Okay.

1349
01:08:05,240 --> 01:08:08,000
Speaker 2: And I heard something this week that I just had

1350
01:08:08,040 --> 01:08:09,760
Speaker 2: to play on the show because I had to get

1351
01:08:09,800 --> 01:08:13,720
Speaker 2: your reaction. This is Chris mad Dog Russo. He was

1352
01:08:13,800 --> 01:08:17,759
Speaker 2: on first take, And normally I don't play like minute

1353
01:08:17,840 --> 01:08:21,120
Speaker 2: long clips of dudes on first take just throwing out

1354
01:08:21,160 --> 01:08:23,439
Speaker 2: sports opinions. But this is just too good. This is

1355
01:08:23,640 --> 01:08:27,440
Speaker 2: too good with your your Penn State you know background

1356
01:08:27,560 --> 01:08:30,360
Speaker 2: over there. I had to get your opinion on him

1357
01:08:30,400 --> 01:08:34,080
Speaker 2: basically calling out James Franklin, small game James and that

1358
01:08:34,200 --> 01:08:37,240
Speaker 2: I know you hate that, but sample this what mad

1359
01:08:37,320 --> 01:08:40,120
Speaker 2: Dog said on first take about your Nitney Lions.

1360
01:08:40,160 --> 01:08:40,479
Speaker 1: Here you go.

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01:08:40,680 --> 01:08:43,880
Speaker 7: Did you see the preseason college football polls that came out.

1362
01:08:44,080 --> 01:08:44,800
Speaker 3: Earlier in the week.

1363
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Speaker 1: How was Penn State number two in the country.

1364
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Speaker 3: Yes, I know their schedules not that difficult.

1365
01:08:49,880 --> 01:08:52,840
Speaker 7: But he never wins a big game, lost layast year

1366
01:08:52,960 --> 01:08:54,080
Speaker 7: obviously at a Notre Dame.

1367
01:08:54,120 --> 01:08:55,840
Speaker 3: I don't care about the SMU. That's not a big game.

1368
01:08:56,080 --> 01:08:58,240
Speaker 3: The quarterback I do not like in a big spot.

1369
01:08:58,280 --> 01:09:00,920
Speaker 3: He was terrible down the stretch again Irish and.

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Speaker 7: Franklin was He owned ten against the Buckeyes. He never

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Speaker 7: beats them in Michigan and he has to play in

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Speaker 7: Columbus this year. How is Penn State, with their history

1373
01:09:09,520 --> 01:09:11,120
Speaker 7: under Franklin in big spots?

1374
01:09:11,400 --> 01:09:12,200
Speaker 1: How are they getting?

1375
01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:15,880
Speaker 3: I know their schedules easy, but this is stupid. Second

1376
01:09:15,960 --> 01:09:19,519
Speaker 3: in the country. We start the year second, Penn State.

1377
01:09:19,840 --> 01:09:22,640
Speaker 7: That I don't care about who they bought that, I

1378
01:09:22,720 --> 01:09:26,040
Speaker 7: don't care about their defense. I know Nevada the Lenovo

1379
01:09:26,240 --> 01:09:28,920
Speaker 7: easy early. I get all that they are not the

1380
01:09:29,040 --> 01:09:32,200
Speaker 7: second best team in college football here on August thirteenth.

1381
01:09:32,439 --> 01:09:38,320
Speaker 7: You know why history they never ever ever respond And

1382
01:09:38,479 --> 01:09:41,120
Speaker 7: that has to go into the equation when you're doing

1383
01:09:41,160 --> 01:09:41,799
Speaker 7: these rankings.

1384
01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:42,760
Speaker 3: That is a joke.

1385
01:09:43,200 --> 01:09:49,400
Speaker 2: WHOA all right? Okay, so selling Penn State. Technically, you

1386
01:09:49,479 --> 01:09:52,720
Speaker 2: know James Franklin won in ten He won one time

1387
01:09:52,720 --> 01:09:56,000
Speaker 2: against Ohio State. Yeah, we think get the numbers right, man, though, yes,

1388
01:09:56,760 --> 01:09:59,000
Speaker 2: if that one win counts, man, we get oh I

1389
01:09:59,160 --> 01:09:59,880
Speaker 2: aver that one win.

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Speaker 1: They died the field goal returned it to the house.

1391
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Speaker 1: That was a fun game.

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01:10:03,040 --> 01:10:07,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, So what do you think here, mister Penn State?

1393
01:10:07,200 --> 01:10:10,680
Speaker 1: Nit me lying, Let me take a deep breath, let

1394
01:10:10,720 --> 01:10:12,840
Speaker 1: me just collect my thoughts for a minute before I

1395
01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:15,000
Speaker 1: absolutely obliterate.

1396
01:10:14,600 --> 01:10:15,800
Speaker 2: Mad Dog for this terrible thing.

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, No, listen, it's fair to have doubts

1398
01:10:20,280 --> 01:10:23,360
Speaker 1: about them winning a national championship. I think it's fair

1399
01:10:23,479 --> 01:10:26,639
Speaker 1: to have doubts about the quarterback. From everything I've heard

1400
01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:29,240
Speaker 1: from inside the locker room, people who have played with him,

1401
01:10:30,040 --> 01:10:33,479
Speaker 1: he is not the most mentally strong of kids. Wow.

1402
01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:37,200
Speaker 1: The good news is that is something that can be

1403
01:10:37,400 --> 01:10:40,400
Speaker 1: taught over time, or can be I guess learned over

1404
01:10:40,520 --> 01:10:46,400
Speaker 1: time through experience, through heartache, through overcoming obstacles, through failure,

1405
01:10:46,800 --> 01:10:48,840
Speaker 1: which they had last year, and he's had a lot

1406
01:10:48,920 --> 01:10:51,920
Speaker 1: of it in his first two years. The take that

1407
01:10:53,280 --> 01:10:56,439
Speaker 1: their team isn't good is it's crazy. It shows how

1408
01:10:56,680 --> 01:11:00,599
Speaker 1: uneducated mad Dog is on college football. And I'll call

1409
01:11:00,680 --> 01:11:02,720
Speaker 1: him out right here, Hey, mad Dog, come on the

1410
01:11:02,720 --> 01:11:06,559
Speaker 1: show and debate me about Penn State, because their defense

1411
01:11:06,840 --> 01:11:10,840
Speaker 1: is absolutely loaded. And when I say loaded, I mean

1412
01:11:10,960 --> 01:11:14,400
Speaker 1: you're gonna hear guys' names that you probably haven't heard

1413
01:11:14,439 --> 01:11:17,360
Speaker 1: of before guys like Zane Durant and then Identa Sutton,

1414
01:11:18,120 --> 01:11:19,920
Speaker 1: and those guys are gonna be maybe not on the

1415
01:11:20,000 --> 01:11:22,920
Speaker 1: level of Abdul Carter, but right there. And then they

1416
01:11:23,000 --> 01:11:28,120
Speaker 1: bring in the brightest mind on defense in college football

1417
01:11:28,560 --> 01:11:32,200
Speaker 1: in Jim Knowles, who was unbelievable last year coaching up

1418
01:11:32,200 --> 01:11:35,599
Speaker 1: a lot of talent at Ohio State. Now, the offense,

1419
01:11:35,720 --> 01:11:38,439
Speaker 1: the holes were absolutely at receivers. So what did they do.

1420
01:11:38,520 --> 01:11:41,559
Speaker 1: They brought in Payna, They brought in a kid from

1421
01:11:41,880 --> 01:11:46,360
Speaker 1: USC Hudson, just absolute rock star receivers in the transfer portal.

1422
01:11:46,680 --> 01:11:49,840
Speaker 1: They have two elite running backs Singleton and Allen. And

1423
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Speaker 1: I think the best part of their team tip of

1424
01:11:52,560 --> 01:11:54,960
Speaker 1: the cap to our power Tornberger, who's not with us today,

1425
01:11:55,000 --> 01:11:57,160
Speaker 1: is their offensive line. I think their offensive line might

1426
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Speaker 1: be the best in the nation. And I don't care

1427
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Speaker 1: how bad you are in big games. When you have talent,

1428
01:12:07,200 --> 01:12:09,360
Speaker 1: a lot of times it covers up those wards. And

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Speaker 1: I will concede that point. Penn State has not won

1430
01:12:14,600 --> 01:12:17,920
Speaker 1: the big game under James Franklin, but I will also

1431
01:12:18,080 --> 01:12:21,760
Speaker 1: push back they have not had the better players in

1432
01:12:22,000 --> 01:12:26,920
Speaker 1: any of those games. Now usually to be considered an

1433
01:12:26,960 --> 01:12:30,559
Speaker 1: elite coach you can take average talent and make them

1434
01:12:30,640 --> 01:12:32,479
Speaker 1: look great, kind of like what Kevin O'Connell did the

1435
01:12:32,520 --> 01:12:35,719
Speaker 1: Sam Donald last year. So I'm not calling James Franklin

1436
01:12:35,760 --> 01:12:40,080
Speaker 1: an elite coach, but I freaking hate this narrative Big

1437
01:12:40,240 --> 01:12:43,760
Speaker 1: Game James. He hasn't had the better team in any

1438
01:12:43,840 --> 01:12:48,000
Speaker 1: of those games. He's been the underdog in all of

1439
01:12:48,120 --> 01:12:54,000
Speaker 1: those games. So this narrative about James Franklin needs to die.

1440
01:12:55,160 --> 01:12:57,800
Speaker 1: It needs to die. He is an average coach that

1441
01:12:57,920 --> 01:13:01,760
Speaker 1: has not elevated the talent around him, but now he

1442
01:13:02,000 --> 01:13:05,519
Speaker 1: has the most talent of anyone, perhaps in the nation.

1443
01:13:06,520 --> 01:13:10,240
Speaker 1: And for you to ignore that point about how good

1444
01:13:10,400 --> 01:13:13,160
Speaker 1: this roster is, Mad Dog, it shows me that you

1445
01:13:13,200 --> 01:13:17,080
Speaker 1: don't know ball, period, end of story. You don't know Ball.

1446
01:13:18,760 --> 01:13:22,320
Speaker 1: I honestly believe they have the best roster in the country.

1447
01:13:22,680 --> 01:13:25,280
Speaker 1: I think they're better than Texas. I think they're deeper

1448
01:13:25,360 --> 01:13:27,400
Speaker 1: than Texas. I think they're better than Ohio State. I

1449
01:13:27,439 --> 01:13:29,640
Speaker 1: think they're deeper than Ohio State. Now, does that mean

1450
01:13:29,720 --> 01:13:31,479
Speaker 1: Drew Aller is going to show up in these games?

1451
01:13:33,520 --> 01:13:35,360
Speaker 1: That's the part of the take that I agree with

1452
01:13:35,520 --> 01:13:39,200
Speaker 1: on Mad Dog. I think that Drew Aller is really

1453
01:13:39,320 --> 01:13:42,040
Speaker 1: the reason why Penn State won't reach their full potential

1454
01:13:42,120 --> 01:13:45,400
Speaker 1: this year. It's not James Franklin. He has not had

1455
01:13:45,560 --> 01:13:49,519
Speaker 1: the players to win in those scenarios. Now he does,

1456
01:13:50,520 --> 01:13:53,599
Speaker 1: but Aler has to take that next step, especially between

1457
01:13:53,640 --> 01:13:56,759
Speaker 1: the ears. He has all the talent in the world,

1458
01:13:57,520 --> 01:14:00,680
Speaker 1: but he comes up small in big spots. That is

1459
01:14:00,800 --> 01:14:04,320
Speaker 1: the part of Penn State's season that concerns me the most.

1460
01:14:04,439 --> 01:14:07,000
Speaker 1: It's not the game at Ohio State, it's not the

1461
01:14:07,040 --> 01:14:10,960
Speaker 1: game against Oregon. It's not James Franklin. It is Drew

1462
01:14:11,040 --> 01:14:14,600
Speaker 1: Aller getting out of his head and getting into his

1463
01:14:14,680 --> 01:14:17,439
Speaker 1: body in big moments. And if Penn State does that,

1464
01:14:17,720 --> 01:14:20,040
Speaker 1: I truly believe, in my heart of hearts, If Drew

1465
01:14:20,120 --> 01:14:24,080
Speaker 1: Aller takes that next step, I truly believe, deep down

1466
01:14:24,120 --> 01:14:26,280
Speaker 1: for the first time ever in my thirty nine years

1467
01:14:26,360 --> 01:14:28,920
Speaker 1: on this earth, that Penn State is going to win

1468
01:14:28,960 --> 01:14:29,960
Speaker 1: the national championship.

1469
01:14:30,240 --> 01:14:35,439
Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing. The record speaks for itself, and

1470
01:14:35,920 --> 01:14:40,320
Speaker 2: this idea that I'm with you halfway, and then I

1471
01:14:40,479 --> 01:14:43,799
Speaker 2: take a sharp left turn and like, not with you anymore,

1472
01:14:43,960 --> 01:14:46,960
Speaker 2: Jared Smith, not with you anymore? Like this idea I

1473
01:14:47,120 --> 01:14:51,040
Speaker 2: hear you halfway where a lot of these losses the

1474
01:14:51,120 --> 01:14:55,320
Speaker 2: other team has been more talented. Okay, fine, but how

1475
01:14:55,439 --> 01:14:58,840
Speaker 2: many times go back to last season Ohio State was

1476
01:14:59,080 --> 01:15:03,040
Speaker 2: oozing with talent. They're twenty one point favorites at home

1477
01:15:03,120 --> 01:15:08,599
Speaker 2: against Michigan. They lost again against Michigan. So this idea

1478
01:15:08,720 --> 01:15:12,320
Speaker 2: that just because you aren't more talented, that gives you grace,

1479
01:15:12,439 --> 01:15:15,160
Speaker 2: that gives you a free pass to have these sucky records.

1480
01:15:15,200 --> 01:15:18,040
Speaker 2: You're one in ten against Ohio State, You're one in

1481
01:15:18,200 --> 01:15:22,080
Speaker 2: eighteen under James Franklin at Penn State against top five teams.

1482
01:15:22,400 --> 01:15:26,559
Speaker 2: It's a freaking joke. And this idea that, oh, everybody

1483
01:15:26,640 --> 01:15:29,280
Speaker 2: brings up small game James, that's because he's earned it.

1484
01:15:29,760 --> 01:15:32,759
Speaker 2: He has earned it through loss after loss after loss

1485
01:15:32,840 --> 01:15:36,280
Speaker 2: after loss after loss. So that's what it is. And

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01:15:36,439 --> 01:15:38,639
Speaker 2: to get rid of it, it's going to take actually

1487
01:15:38,760 --> 01:15:42,519
Speaker 2: coming through in those spots you should come through when

1488
01:15:42,520 --> 01:15:45,559
Speaker 2: you have more talent. But I don't buy this idea

1489
01:15:45,600 --> 01:15:48,080
Speaker 2: of like, oh, a free pass he didn't have more talent.

1490
01:15:48,160 --> 01:15:51,400
Speaker 2: It's there are upsets all the time, all the time.

1491
01:15:52,080 --> 01:15:54,000
Speaker 2: Just because you don't have as much talent doesn't mean

1492
01:15:54,040 --> 01:15:57,519
Speaker 2: it's okay to lose steadily, which he has. So he's

1493
01:15:57,600 --> 01:16:01,000
Speaker 2: earned that reputation in that nickname that I know you hate,

1494
01:16:01,160 --> 01:16:02,240
Speaker 2: but it is fitting.

1495
01:16:03,280 --> 01:16:06,920
Speaker 1: M Yeah, I more hate to take that mad Dog

1496
01:16:06,960 --> 01:16:10,960
Speaker 1: gave because he was very, very negative about a lot

1497
01:16:11,040 --> 01:16:14,040
Speaker 1: of things that he is not educated on. Yeah, Penn

1498
01:16:14,120 --> 01:16:16,920
Speaker 1: State's right. There's a reason why they're number two in

1499
01:16:17,000 --> 01:16:21,320
Speaker 1: the country. There's a reason why number two number two.

1500
01:16:21,680 --> 01:16:25,599
Speaker 1: It is because the team is absolutely loaded.

1501
01:16:25,800 --> 01:16:27,759
Speaker 2: They are load dead.

1502
01:16:28,320 --> 01:16:33,519
Speaker 1: And if they underachieve, then the Big Game James narrative

1503
01:16:33,560 --> 01:16:37,160
Speaker 1: will fit. But if they win the national championship this year,

1504
01:16:37,280 --> 01:16:39,040
Speaker 1: or even if they get to that, that's what it's

1505
01:16:39,040 --> 01:16:42,040
Speaker 1: gonna take this year. Yeah, I think we need a

1506
01:16:42,439 --> 01:16:45,639
Speaker 1: Maya Kolpa well from mister mad Dog.

1507
01:16:46,040 --> 01:16:48,120
Speaker 2: We'll cross that bridge if we ever get to it,

1508
01:16:48,280 --> 01:16:51,360
Speaker 2: but uh, I'm betting against that happening. We've got Jared Smith.

1509
01:16:51,840 --> 01:16:54,479
Speaker 2: I almost heard the the Nitney Lyons fight song in

1510
01:16:54,520 --> 01:16:57,120
Speaker 2: the background when you were you're really going in there?

1511
01:16:57,200 --> 01:16:59,400
Speaker 2: I was, well, because I just think, I know, I know,

1512
01:16:59,439 --> 01:17:01,000
Speaker 2: we gotta go, you gotta go, Brian.

1513
01:17:01,080 --> 01:17:01,240
Speaker 7: Though.

1514
01:17:02,200 --> 01:17:05,760
Speaker 2: It is Fox Sports Radios Countdown presented by BETMGM. Coming

1515
01:17:05,880 --> 01:17:09,240
Speaker 2: up next, we get a prop it up right around

1516
01:17:09,280 --> 01:17:11,479
Speaker 2: the corner, all right, So we'll look at the prop

1517
01:17:11,520 --> 01:17:16,240
Speaker 2: betting market and maybe some super charged season props as well.

1518
01:17:16,280 --> 01:17:17,840
Speaker 2: Two for the price of one, hang with us. It

1519
01:17:17,960 --> 01:17:21,840
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Speaker 2: first bet. All right, let's do this.

1529
01:17:52,439 --> 01:17:55,000
Speaker 4: Prop it up player plays.

1530
01:17:55,640 --> 01:17:59,200
Speaker 2: All right, Jared, we start with you the prop betting market.

1531
01:17:59,280 --> 01:18:01,240
Speaker 2: What is a prop that you like today, or this

1532
01:18:01,400 --> 01:18:03,840
Speaker 2: weekend or three months from now. It could be anything

1533
01:18:04,080 --> 01:18:04,360
Speaker 2: you like.

1534
01:18:05,520 --> 01:18:07,760
Speaker 1: I'll go today. I'll give you a baseball prop today.

1535
01:18:07,800 --> 01:18:09,840
Speaker 1: I was scanning the picture markets and this one really

1536
01:18:09,880 --> 01:18:14,160
Speaker 1: stood out to me. Rico Garcia, who is Rico Garcia.

1537
01:18:14,800 --> 01:18:17,280
Speaker 1: He is the opener today for the Orioles they are

1538
01:18:17,360 --> 01:18:20,599
Speaker 1: facing the Astros. I expect Garcia to go an inning.

1539
01:18:21,439 --> 01:18:24,280
Speaker 1: Kykovich will be the bulk reliever. Well, you can bet

1540
01:18:24,560 --> 01:18:27,640
Speaker 1: under one and a half strikeouts f Rico Garcia. This

1541
01:18:27,680 --> 01:18:31,479
Speaker 1: is price debt minus a dollar thirty over at at MGM. Again,

1542
01:18:31,520 --> 01:18:34,120
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna go one inning, so he's probably

1543
01:18:34,120 --> 01:18:36,599
Speaker 1: got to get two strikeouts in just one inning of work.

1544
01:18:36,600 --> 01:18:39,040
Speaker 1: He's gonna face Jeremy Payne, your Carlos crej, Josel Tube,

1545
01:18:39,160 --> 01:18:40,920
Speaker 1: Christian Walker at the top of the Astros lineup. The

1546
01:18:40,920 --> 01:18:43,360
Speaker 1: Aster has been swinging some hot sticks lately, especially Correa

1547
01:18:43,560 --> 01:18:46,760
Speaker 1: who just got created back to Houston, and all four

1548
01:18:46,840 --> 01:18:49,600
Speaker 1: of those guys very below average strikeout rates, and the

1549
01:18:49,640 --> 01:18:52,360
Speaker 1: Astros as a team in general very low key rate

1550
01:18:52,840 --> 01:18:55,000
Speaker 1: over the last month of the season. So I think

1551
01:18:55,120 --> 01:18:57,680
Speaker 1: Rico one and done will go under one and a

1552
01:18:57,680 --> 01:18:59,960
Speaker 1: half strikeouts for the opener for Baltimore.

1553
01:19:00,320 --> 01:19:03,280
Speaker 2: I like that play. That's an interesting play right there

1554
01:19:03,360 --> 01:19:05,280
Speaker 2: by you Next year, it's smith. It's funny too, like

1555
01:19:05,840 --> 01:19:09,200
Speaker 2: you're just rooting for outs. Just put the ball in play, please,

1556
01:19:09,400 --> 01:19:11,320
Speaker 2: just I love it when it's a one to two

1557
01:19:11,439 --> 01:19:14,120
Speaker 2: count and you're like, just don't swing at a pitch

1558
01:19:14,360 --> 01:19:16,479
Speaker 2: like nine miles out of the strike zone, you know,

1559
01:19:16,560 --> 01:19:19,639
Speaker 2: and we're good. Yeah, I'm gonna go with my guy,

1560
01:19:20,000 --> 01:19:24,720
Speaker 2: Brian Whoo, the Mariners pitcher. He is the pac man

1561
01:19:25,640 --> 01:19:29,639
Speaker 2: of MLB this year. He is just eating up innings, man.

1562
01:19:29,840 --> 01:19:33,240
Speaker 2: He is twenty three starts this season. He's gone six

1563
01:19:33,360 --> 01:19:37,080
Speaker 2: innings in all, twenty three starts, at least six innings.

1564
01:19:37,160 --> 01:19:40,479
Speaker 2: Sometimes we'll go seven innings. Right, So today against the Mets,

1565
01:19:40,760 --> 01:19:45,040
Speaker 2: who are freaking brutal, man, they've lost fourteen of sixteen.

1566
01:19:45,240 --> 01:19:50,000
Speaker 2: All right, so our guy, Brian wu pitcher, outs eighteen

1567
01:19:50,040 --> 01:19:52,439
Speaker 2: and a half. So he has to get through six

1568
01:19:52,560 --> 01:19:54,760
Speaker 2: and a third, right, we got to get into the

1569
01:19:54,800 --> 01:19:56,559
Speaker 2: seventh inning. Gotta get at least one out.

1570
01:19:57,320 --> 01:20:01,160
Speaker 1: The over is juiced to plus one five.

1571
01:20:01,680 --> 01:20:04,360
Speaker 2: So let me get this straight. Met's suck right now,

1572
01:20:05,160 --> 01:20:09,000
Speaker 2: Brian wo has gone at least six innings every single start,

1573
01:20:09,720 --> 01:20:12,120
Speaker 2: and I got to get to so he's gotten eighteen

1574
01:20:12,200 --> 01:20:15,320
Speaker 2: outs every single start. I gotta get to nineteen outs

1575
01:20:15,640 --> 01:20:18,000
Speaker 2: and it's plus one thirty five. I'll take that. I

1576
01:20:18,080 --> 01:20:20,280
Speaker 2: will take it. Give me Brian wo over eighteen and

1577
01:20:20,280 --> 01:20:22,800
Speaker 2: a half outs, all right, coming up next? If you

1578
01:20:22,880 --> 01:20:25,920
Speaker 2: get three chances to pick a champion. Which three teams

1579
01:20:25,960 --> 01:20:26,479
Speaker 2: are you going with?

1580
01:20:28,800 --> 01:20:28,920
Speaker 7: Oh?

1581
01:20:29,000 --> 01:20:31,519
Speaker 2: What is going on? Happy Saturday? Too? You hope all

1582
01:20:31,680 --> 01:20:35,679
Speaker 2: things are going swimmingly for you. So we've got college

1583
01:20:35,720 --> 01:20:38,040
Speaker 2: football on the brain here, Jared Smith? How can we

1584
01:20:38,200 --> 01:20:42,240
Speaker 2: not with this epic Week zero slate that is right

1585
01:20:42,320 --> 01:20:43,000
Speaker 2: around the corner?

1586
01:20:43,160 --> 01:20:43,320
Speaker 1: Man?

1587
01:20:43,400 --> 01:20:45,559
Speaker 2: I got wow, we're talking?

1588
01:20:46,479 --> 01:20:46,840
Speaker 1: What is it?

1589
01:20:46,960 --> 01:20:49,040
Speaker 2: Case State Iowa State? Is that even the game?

1590
01:20:49,320 --> 01:20:53,000
Speaker 1: That? Whoa is that I have that right?

1591
01:20:53,000 --> 01:20:55,719
Speaker 2: I don't know if I have that right that heck matchup?

1592
01:20:55,840 --> 01:21:00,960
Speaker 2: Like if that's bro if that's mid season Impact Saturday.

1593
01:21:01,600 --> 01:21:03,800
Speaker 2: You don't even look at that game unless you're a

1594
01:21:03,880 --> 01:21:05,640
Speaker 2: diehard fan of one of those teams or have a

1595
01:21:05,760 --> 01:21:07,720
Speaker 2: huge bet on the game. You're not going out of

1596
01:21:07,760 --> 01:21:10,160
Speaker 2: your way for k State Iowa State. That's the best

1597
01:21:10,200 --> 01:21:12,519
Speaker 2: we got in week zero? What are we doing? What

1598
01:21:12,640 --> 01:21:14,559
Speaker 2: are we doing? But I want to be next game?

1599
01:21:15,520 --> 01:21:17,720
Speaker 1: But it is week zero, so we're gonna watch. We will,

1600
01:21:17,800 --> 01:21:19,960
Speaker 1: and also I think beyond during our show next week.

1601
01:21:20,960 --> 01:21:22,240
Speaker 2: But beyond during the show.

1602
01:21:22,439 --> 01:21:24,839
Speaker 1: I think it's yeah, because it's the it's it's in Ireland,

1603
01:21:25,000 --> 01:21:27,719
Speaker 1: so it starts super early. Oh I think it starts.

1604
01:21:27,720 --> 01:21:30,080
Speaker 1: It might start at eight am no, sorry, it starts

1605
01:21:30,120 --> 01:21:31,040
Speaker 1: at nine am our time.

1606
01:21:31,320 --> 01:21:33,240
Speaker 2: Okay, so we're counting down to kickoff.

1607
01:21:33,360 --> 01:21:35,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, there we go. All right.

1608
01:21:35,640 --> 01:21:40,280
Speaker 2: So I saw there was a bet from a an

1609
01:21:40,400 --> 01:21:43,719
Speaker 2: Arizona better On bet. MGM, it's gonna sound like a plug,

1610
01:21:43,760 --> 01:21:48,080
Speaker 2: but it's really not. So in June, this better he

1611
01:21:48,200 --> 01:21:52,240
Speaker 2: bet on three college football teams, each of them to

1612
01:21:52,320 --> 01:21:55,120
Speaker 2: win a championship this year. Right, So the thinking is

1613
01:21:55,400 --> 01:21:58,200
Speaker 2: he gets three cracks at it. So he put down

1614
01:21:58,400 --> 01:22:01,400
Speaker 2: three hundred thousand dollars on Texas to win it all.

1615
01:22:01,840 --> 01:22:02,160
Speaker 1: Yikes.

1616
01:22:02,200 --> 01:22:05,120
Speaker 2: He put two hundred thousand dollars on your Penn State

1617
01:22:05,240 --> 01:22:06,720
Speaker 2: Ninnee Lyons to win it.

1618
01:22:06,720 --> 01:22:07,799
Speaker 1: All, double yikes.

1619
01:22:09,160 --> 01:22:12,559
Speaker 2: And then he put one hundred and fifteen thousand dollars

1620
01:22:12,720 --> 01:22:16,559
Speaker 2: on Clemson to win it all triple yikes. So if

1621
01:22:16,720 --> 01:22:19,800
Speaker 2: any of those three teams win it all, he would

1622
01:22:19,840 --> 01:22:24,640
Speaker 2: basically profit about one point five million dollars. Okay, So

1623
01:22:24,760 --> 01:22:29,920
Speaker 2: he bet six hundred and fifteen k three college teams

1624
01:22:30,640 --> 01:22:32,320
Speaker 2: to win it all, and so if one of them does,

1625
01:22:32,360 --> 01:22:35,040
Speaker 2: he wins about one point five million dollars. The question is,

1626
01:22:36,040 --> 01:22:40,560
Speaker 2: if you are putting money on three separate teams to

1627
01:22:40,640 --> 01:22:43,800
Speaker 2: win a championship this season, which three teams are you

1628
01:22:43,880 --> 01:22:44,240
Speaker 2: going with?

1629
01:22:45,320 --> 01:22:49,360
Speaker 1: It's definitely not Texas. And here's why. Wow, Okay, nineteen

1630
01:22:49,400 --> 01:22:51,320
Speaker 1: of the last twenty one teams ranked number one in

1631
01:22:51,360 --> 01:22:53,960
Speaker 1: the preseason, eight people have failed to win the national championship.

1632
01:22:54,000 --> 01:22:58,519
Speaker 1: Sorry Texas. The two outliers there are Bama in twenty

1633
01:22:58,600 --> 01:23:03,479
Speaker 1: seventeen and USC in two thousand and four. So and

1634
01:23:03,560 --> 01:23:05,400
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that trend is the end all, be

1635
01:23:05,560 --> 01:23:08,559
Speaker 1: all of everything happening in college football, because there's obviously

1636
01:23:08,640 --> 01:23:11,719
Speaker 1: more to it than that. But I am not going

1637
01:23:12,000 --> 01:23:15,920
Speaker 1: against that trend. I'm gonna let that trend play out.

1638
01:23:16,200 --> 01:23:20,280
Speaker 1: And I think Texas is very good, but I am

1639
01:23:20,360 --> 01:23:22,519
Speaker 1: not betting on Texas win the national championship. I can't

1640
01:23:22,520 --> 01:23:24,280
Speaker 1: bet on Penn State to win the national championship. As

1641
01:23:24,360 --> 01:23:25,639
Speaker 1: much as I do think they are the best team

1642
01:23:25,680 --> 01:23:28,200
Speaker 1: in the country. In my heart of hearts, I believe

1643
01:23:28,360 --> 01:23:31,160
Speaker 1: they are going to win, I can't bet on it.

1644
01:23:31,520 --> 01:23:35,240
Speaker 1: There's a difference between my heart and my head, and

1645
01:23:35,400 --> 01:23:37,720
Speaker 1: my brain says they are not the team to bet on.

1646
01:23:38,360 --> 01:23:41,559
Speaker 1: I think Bama is on my list. I think Bama's

1647
01:23:41,560 --> 01:23:43,880
Speaker 1: top of my list. I think you are going to

1648
01:23:44,000 --> 01:23:46,639
Speaker 1: know the name Ty Simpson very quickly, and I gave

1649
01:23:46,720 --> 01:23:49,920
Speaker 1: this to you guys in the parlay platter Bama to

1650
01:23:49,960 --> 01:23:52,760
Speaker 1: make the playoff, which is minus one eighty five. I

1651
01:23:52,840 --> 01:23:56,639
Speaker 1: think they are absolutely loaded and there is a lot

1652
01:23:56,720 --> 01:23:59,479
Speaker 1: of pressure on the board this year after missing the

1653
01:23:59,520 --> 01:24:03,080
Speaker 1: playoff last year. And I think they're twenty to one

1654
01:24:03,720 --> 01:24:07,080
Speaker 1: to win the national championship, which again no, sorry, ten

1655
01:24:07,080 --> 01:24:10,280
Speaker 1: to one, excuse me for Bama. I think that's a

1656
01:24:10,320 --> 01:24:13,720
Speaker 1: good price. Again, they are one, two, three, four, five, six,

1657
01:24:13,880 --> 01:24:17,439
Speaker 1: seventh best on the board to win a national championship.

1658
01:24:17,439 --> 01:24:19,800
Speaker 1: But I think they have the most talent outside of

1659
01:24:19,920 --> 01:24:22,519
Speaker 1: maybe Penn State. In terms of their roster, they're too deep,

1660
01:24:23,040 --> 01:24:26,240
Speaker 1: So I would say Bama at ten to one, you're

1661
01:24:26,280 --> 01:24:30,479
Speaker 1: getting a bit of a discount the other teams. I

1662
01:24:30,520 --> 01:24:34,679
Speaker 1: would be willing to take a flyer on Clemson because

1663
01:24:34,720 --> 01:24:38,040
Speaker 1: I think they have the easier path than the other teams.

1664
01:24:38,520 --> 01:24:42,639
Speaker 1: Perhaps at the top right that ACC is soft Sharman

1665
01:24:42,760 --> 01:24:47,280
Speaker 1: Ultrasolt I like Club Nick. I think defensively they are elite.

1666
01:24:47,600 --> 01:24:50,479
Speaker 1: They might have the best trench game in all of

1667
01:24:50,560 --> 01:24:53,840
Speaker 1: college football outside offense. Date trench by the game like yeah,

1668
01:24:54,320 --> 01:24:58,320
Speaker 1: O line, D line, like just absolute trench warfare. The

1669
01:24:58,400 --> 01:25:00,840
Speaker 1: reason why I wouldn't bet Clubnick to win Heisman, same

1670
01:25:00,960 --> 01:25:04,280
Speaker 1: reason why I wouldn't bet Aller or are Commanding to

1671
01:25:04,320 --> 01:25:07,000
Speaker 1: win Heisman. I just think those defenses are so good

1672
01:25:07,560 --> 01:25:10,680
Speaker 1: You're not going to be relied on to score a

1673
01:25:10,720 --> 01:25:12,960
Speaker 1: lot of points. You don't need to drop forty every

1674
01:25:13,000 --> 01:25:15,680
Speaker 1: game like cam Moore did last year in order for

1675
01:25:15,800 --> 01:25:18,679
Speaker 1: Miami to win games. I think twenty one to seventeen

1676
01:25:18,800 --> 01:25:21,760
Speaker 1: is gonna get it done most weeks for Clemson. So

1677
01:25:21,920 --> 01:25:24,080
Speaker 1: as much as I'm high on them in terms of

1678
01:25:24,160 --> 01:25:26,560
Speaker 1: their win loss total, in terms of their ability to

1679
01:25:26,600 --> 01:25:28,760
Speaker 1: win a national championship, I don't think Cake Club Nick

1680
01:25:28,800 --> 01:25:30,720
Speaker 1: for Heisman is a bet I'd be willing to make.

1681
01:25:30,840 --> 01:25:33,040
Speaker 1: But Clemson nine to one, I think that's a fair bet.

1682
01:25:33,400 --> 01:25:34,400
Speaker 2: Okay, the third.

1683
01:25:34,240 --> 01:25:40,040
Speaker 1: One, man like, how far down the list.

1684
01:25:39,920 --> 01:25:41,280
Speaker 6: Do we go? Right?

1685
01:25:42,400 --> 01:25:42,639
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1686
01:25:43,120 --> 01:25:43,320
Speaker 1: Wake?

1687
01:25:43,560 --> 01:25:46,040
Speaker 2: I think goes yeah.

1688
01:25:46,240 --> 01:25:48,000
Speaker 1: No. But here. So here's the thing about Notre Dame.

1689
01:25:48,920 --> 01:25:53,599
Speaker 1: I think Notre Dame is a good, not great team

1690
01:25:53,680 --> 01:25:56,000
Speaker 1: this year in terms of the national championship picture. I

1691
01:25:56,120 --> 01:26:00,760
Speaker 1: think their experience and their trench warfare is elite. I

1692
01:26:00,880 --> 01:26:03,120
Speaker 1: just am a little bit concerned with the weaponry on

1693
01:26:03,160 --> 01:26:06,760
Speaker 1: the outside. I think Jeremiah Love is an absolute rock star.

1694
01:26:07,960 --> 01:26:08,600
Speaker 2: That's kind of it.

1695
01:26:08,840 --> 01:26:10,800
Speaker 1: Now, maybe one of these quarterbacks comes in and changes

1696
01:26:10,840 --> 01:26:12,680
Speaker 1: my mind. Have they announced the starter yet?

1697
01:26:12,920 --> 01:26:12,960
Speaker 6: No.

1698
01:26:13,479 --> 01:26:15,960
Speaker 2: It seems like it's gonna be CJ. Carr, but no

1699
01:26:16,080 --> 01:26:19,680
Speaker 2: official announcement. That's my thing, Jared, is when you look

1700
01:26:19,760 --> 01:26:23,000
Speaker 2: at just quarterbacks of these teams, like on the short

1701
01:26:23,040 --> 01:26:25,880
Speaker 2: list to win a championship, I wonder how big of

1702
01:26:25,920 --> 01:26:29,240
Speaker 2: an advantage it's gonna play out to be a caid

1703
01:26:29,320 --> 01:26:33,120
Speaker 2: club nick at Clemson having him with real experience compared

1704
01:26:33,160 --> 01:26:37,519
Speaker 2: to Ohio State, new guy, Georgia, new guy Notre Dame,

1705
01:26:37,600 --> 01:26:40,080
Speaker 2: new guy, Alabama, new guy. You got new guys all

1706
01:26:40,160 --> 01:26:42,320
Speaker 2: over the place on the short list of teams to

1707
01:26:42,360 --> 01:26:45,439
Speaker 2: win a championship. And so like your guy Drew Aller,

1708
01:26:46,160 --> 01:26:49,400
Speaker 2: even though we're like eh in big spots because he

1709
01:26:49,640 --> 01:26:53,280
Speaker 2: faltered against Notre Dame and the footwork is iffy, but

1710
01:26:53,600 --> 01:26:56,640
Speaker 2: he's got real experience, so he has a leg up

1711
01:26:57,160 --> 01:26:59,439
Speaker 2: on a lot of teams that have quarterbacks that they're

1712
01:26:59,560 --> 01:27:02,280
Speaker 2: just breaking. So how big of an advantage is that

1713
01:27:02,400 --> 01:27:04,479
Speaker 2: going to be, Say, at the end of the season,

1714
01:27:04,520 --> 01:27:07,080
Speaker 2: when we get to the playoff and these young guys

1715
01:27:07,120 --> 01:27:09,679
Speaker 2: have gotten a good amount of experience, but they don't

1716
01:27:09,680 --> 01:27:12,080
Speaker 2: have playoff experience. You know how big of a difference

1717
01:27:12,200 --> 01:27:13,800
Speaker 2: is that gonna make for some of these teams that

1718
01:27:13,960 --> 01:27:15,440
Speaker 2: have experienced quarterbacks.

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01:27:15,720 --> 01:27:18,200
Speaker 1: It's very fair. So here's another trend I'll give you

1720
01:27:18,320 --> 01:27:21,400
Speaker 1: on the AP. So the AP preseason poll, which came

1721
01:27:21,400 --> 01:27:25,000
Speaker 1: out this week has actually been pretty predictive of national

1722
01:27:25,120 --> 01:27:30,080
Speaker 1: championships in the past. So a team has never in

1723
01:27:30,200 --> 01:27:35,240
Speaker 1: the last ten years CFP ERA won the national championship

1724
01:27:35,920 --> 01:27:38,880
Speaker 1: from outside the top six in the preseason AP. It's

1725
01:27:38,960 --> 01:27:41,960
Speaker 1: always been a top six team. Wow, it's crazy, isn't

1726
01:27:41,960 --> 01:27:45,840
Speaker 1: that crazy? Texas, Penn State, Ohio State, Clemson, Georgia, Notre Dame.

1727
01:27:45,920 --> 01:27:49,680
Speaker 1: That's your top six. So if that trend holds and

1728
01:27:49,720 --> 01:27:51,600
Speaker 1: you got Oregon and Bama there seven and eight. Like,

1729
01:27:51,680 --> 01:27:55,600
Speaker 1: I think that those two teams are right there. But

1730
01:27:55,760 --> 01:27:58,040
Speaker 1: if that trend holds, then it's gonna be one of

1731
01:27:58,080 --> 01:28:00,959
Speaker 1: those six teams. I would still include Oregon and Alabama

1732
01:28:01,120 --> 01:28:05,600
Speaker 1: in this In this mix, I think the national championship

1733
01:28:05,640 --> 01:28:09,120
Speaker 1: will be won by one of those eight teams. Okay, Jexas,

1734
01:28:09,120 --> 01:28:11,760
Speaker 1: Penn Sate, Ohis State, Clemson, Georgia, Notre Name, Oregon, Alabama, Like,

1735
01:28:11,800 --> 01:28:15,880
Speaker 1: I think you can eliminate everyone else. Honestly, I think

1736
01:28:16,040 --> 01:28:19,800
Speaker 1: Georgia is intriguing. I just I don't know how much

1737
01:28:19,800 --> 01:28:21,679
Speaker 1: I trust the quarterback. But the rest of that roster

1738
01:28:21,840 --> 01:28:23,160
Speaker 1: is absolutely loaded.

1739
01:28:23,280 --> 01:28:25,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, they'd be one of my three teams.

1740
01:28:26,400 --> 01:28:29,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Ohio State's got to be in there too,

1741
01:28:29,240 --> 01:28:32,480
Speaker 1: But I just don't trust the offensive synergy with Heartline

1742
01:28:32,560 --> 01:28:35,439
Speaker 1: and Day with Julian saying, but I mean that roster's

1743
01:28:35,479 --> 01:28:36,479
Speaker 1: loaded too, I know it.

1744
01:28:36,720 --> 01:28:39,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, when you're the new quarterback and it's like, all right,

1745
01:28:39,920 --> 01:28:40,799
Speaker 2: who are my weapons?

1746
01:28:41,520 --> 01:28:41,640
Speaker 1: Uh?

1747
01:28:41,840 --> 01:28:45,160
Speaker 2: Well, we got this guy, Jeremiah Smith. Yeah, good car.

1748
01:28:45,760 --> 01:28:48,040
Speaker 2: We got Cardinal Tate to work with. We probably got

1749
01:28:48,080 --> 01:28:50,200
Speaker 2: some running back. Might not be a household name. Give

1750
01:28:50,200 --> 01:28:52,040
Speaker 2: it like three weeks, he will be, you know, like

1751
01:28:52,200 --> 01:28:54,760
Speaker 2: it's you got talent the lord. The one thing I

1752
01:28:55,000 --> 01:28:59,320
Speaker 2: wonder about with Oregon speaking about returning talent, they have

1753
01:28:59,439 --> 01:29:03,200
Speaker 2: hardly any returning talent coming in there. And it's Oregon.

1754
01:29:03,240 --> 01:29:07,080
Speaker 2: They're gonna reload, right, They're gonna have dudes. But how

1755
01:29:07,120 --> 01:29:09,200
Speaker 2: long does it take to gel? How long does it

1756
01:29:09,280 --> 01:29:13,000
Speaker 2: take to gel against the elite teams? Right, You've got

1757
01:29:13,200 --> 01:29:15,840
Speaker 2: like one and a half starters on one side of

1758
01:29:15,880 --> 01:29:18,560
Speaker 2: the ball, three starters on the other. That's it. You

1759
01:29:18,640 --> 01:29:22,800
Speaker 2: got like five starters returning collectively for them. That's so low.

1760
01:29:23,800 --> 01:29:25,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, Dante Moore is gonna be a rock star. I

1761
01:29:25,760 --> 01:29:28,360
Speaker 1: think Oregon's gonna be fine. Like, I'm actually very concerned

1762
01:29:28,360 --> 01:29:30,720
Speaker 1: about that Oregon game at Penn State. I think it's

1763
01:29:30,800 --> 01:29:33,000
Speaker 1: week four, it's like the end of September.

1764
01:29:33,240 --> 01:29:35,280
Speaker 2: Well, if it's a big game, i'd be concerned about

1765
01:29:35,320 --> 01:29:35,840
Speaker 2: Penn State.

1766
01:29:38,080 --> 01:29:40,880
Speaker 1: Okay, you took you took the tail again? You smacked me?

1767
01:29:41,200 --> 01:29:44,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, right, my three teams if I'm doing with

1768
01:29:44,880 --> 01:29:47,760
Speaker 2: this better did Yeah? In Arizona I would go. I

1769
01:29:47,840 --> 01:29:51,880
Speaker 2: actually would go Texas. I would go Texas Georgia and

1770
01:29:52,000 --> 01:29:53,439
Speaker 2: call me a homer, but I would go with my

1771
01:29:53,560 --> 01:29:56,400
Speaker 2: Irish as well. You know, all top six teams. That's

1772
01:29:56,400 --> 01:29:58,880
Speaker 2: a crazy stat with, isn't it top six team? Yeah.

1773
01:29:58,920 --> 01:30:01,400
Speaker 1: So the lowest team on that list was the Burrow

1774
01:30:01,520 --> 01:30:05,880
Speaker 1: LSU team. They were six. I think it's eight out

1775
01:30:05,880 --> 01:30:08,839
Speaker 1: of eleven. So there's been eleven national champions in the CFPr.

1776
01:30:09,080 --> 01:30:11,200
Speaker 1: Eight out of the eleven started in the top three.

1777
01:30:11,439 --> 01:30:11,840
Speaker 1: How about that?

1778
01:30:12,280 --> 01:30:15,160
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I was just you know, rapid fire with

1779
01:30:15,240 --> 01:30:19,679
Speaker 2: those three Texas, it's a talent deal. They've got their defense,

1780
01:30:20,000 --> 01:30:23,960
Speaker 2: they've got dudes Man and Arch Manning taking over. I

1781
01:30:24,040 --> 01:30:26,519
Speaker 2: think arch is probably going to be more productive, more

1782
01:30:26,560 --> 01:30:29,720
Speaker 2: reliable than Quinn yours was last season. And you might

1783
01:30:29,800 --> 01:30:32,320
Speaker 2: not be blown away by that, but I think that's

1784
01:30:32,560 --> 01:30:35,560
Speaker 2: enough to make a big difference. So I believe in

1785
01:30:35,640 --> 01:30:38,760
Speaker 2: Texas's talent. I think they're going to be a very,

1786
01:30:38,960 --> 01:30:41,160
Speaker 2: very tough out at the end of the season when

1787
01:30:41,160 --> 01:30:43,719
Speaker 2: we're getting to the playoff Georgia. You mentioned it, Jared,

1788
01:30:43,800 --> 01:30:47,360
Speaker 2: they are stacked and if Gunner Stockton can bring it,

1789
01:30:47,600 --> 01:30:49,679
Speaker 2: and there's REASONAB believe he just in such a tough

1790
01:30:49,760 --> 01:30:52,599
Speaker 2: spot where it's like, hey, kid, first start, it's Notre Dame,

1791
01:30:53,080 --> 01:30:56,560
Speaker 2: it's a playoff game, you know, like have had. That's

1792
01:30:56,600 --> 01:30:59,240
Speaker 2: a really tough spot. But I think that he can

1793
01:30:59,320 --> 01:31:02,200
Speaker 2: be productive. I believe in Kirby Smart. I think he's

1794
01:31:02,200 --> 01:31:05,840
Speaker 2: the best coaching college football and the Irish. I know

1795
01:31:06,040 --> 01:31:08,600
Speaker 2: that you know when you're bringing in breaking in a

1796
01:31:08,680 --> 01:31:11,479
Speaker 2: new guy and CJ. Carr and but you mentioned it,

1797
01:31:11,560 --> 01:31:14,559
Speaker 2: Jeremiah Love takes a lot off of his plate. Yeah,

1798
01:31:14,680 --> 01:31:16,880
Speaker 2: and that defense man, you can make an argument their

1799
01:31:16,920 --> 01:31:19,000
Speaker 2: top five. Phil Steele was on with Cowherd this week

1800
01:31:19,040 --> 01:31:20,280
Speaker 2: and he was like, I got him as a top

1801
01:31:20,360 --> 01:31:24,360
Speaker 2: five unit at every level. The line, linebackers, secondary, their

1802
01:31:24,400 --> 01:31:27,840
Speaker 2: corners are really really good. So I absolutely have them

1803
01:31:27,880 --> 01:31:29,880
Speaker 2: in the mix to win a title. Twelve to one.

1804
01:31:30,000 --> 01:31:32,160
Speaker 2: That's not bad. If you got three bullets.

1805
01:31:32,720 --> 01:31:33,000
Speaker 1: I don't.

1806
01:31:33,040 --> 01:31:35,720
Speaker 2: I'm I'm not ashamed to have the Irish as one

1807
01:31:35,760 --> 01:31:37,280
Speaker 2: of my three bullets to win a title.

1808
01:31:38,200 --> 01:31:38,400
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1809
01:31:38,840 --> 01:31:43,960
Speaker 1: I think they're if the quarterback situation congeals itself quickly,

1810
01:31:44,920 --> 01:31:45,360
Speaker 1: I think.

1811
01:31:45,240 --> 01:31:47,920
Speaker 2: They like that very nice.

1812
01:31:48,040 --> 01:31:50,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that. I think that is I think

1813
01:31:50,960 --> 01:31:56,520
Speaker 1: that is a team that again, the trench warfare is elite. Absolutely,

1814
01:31:57,280 --> 01:31:57,720
Speaker 1: that's right.

1815
01:31:57,800 --> 01:31:58,200
Speaker 2: I love that.

1816
01:31:58,840 --> 01:32:01,760
Speaker 1: I'm listening. Football has these words to them that just

1817
01:32:01,840 --> 01:32:05,360
Speaker 1: kind of stick in my crawl trench, the trenches.

1818
01:32:05,720 --> 01:32:08,400
Speaker 2: But you're right, like a lot of times we focus

1819
01:32:08,560 --> 01:32:11,720
Speaker 2: so much on the quote unquote skill position players, and

1820
01:32:11,800 --> 01:32:14,080
Speaker 2: they matter. They matter a ton. I'm not saying they don't,

1821
01:32:14,520 --> 01:32:16,840
Speaker 2: but it begins up front. And if you're just getting

1822
01:32:16,880 --> 01:32:21,080
Speaker 2: shoved around, forget it. If you're doing the shoving, you

1823
01:32:21,240 --> 01:32:24,760
Speaker 2: are live. You have chances every single week to get

1824
01:32:24,800 --> 01:32:25,160
Speaker 2: it done.

1825
01:32:25,680 --> 01:32:28,000
Speaker 1: Notre name will not get shoved around this year. None

1826
01:32:28,040 --> 01:32:30,519
Speaker 1: of those teams in the top six are getting shoved around.

1827
01:32:30,600 --> 01:32:36,160
Speaker 2: No One, no one a house. It pushes us around nobody.

1828
01:32:36,760 --> 01:32:39,519
Speaker 2: Right now, you're betting like a fool over here. I

1829
01:32:39,520 --> 01:32:41,439
Speaker 2: don't mean that in a bad way. But you got

1830
01:32:41,680 --> 01:32:46,439
Speaker 2: season win total bets galore shared. Yeah, you got Bama, TCU, Baylor,

1831
01:32:46,880 --> 01:32:48,640
Speaker 2: you got all the What are a couple that you

1832
01:32:48,840 --> 01:32:49,360
Speaker 2: like the most?

1833
01:32:49,840 --> 01:32:51,360
Speaker 1: So I'll give you a couple of big ten ones

1834
01:32:51,400 --> 01:32:53,599
Speaker 1: because I think there's a couple that really stick out.

1835
01:32:54,400 --> 01:32:56,800
Speaker 1: Washington over seven and a half really stands out to me.

1836
01:32:57,760 --> 01:32:59,880
Speaker 1: I think the quarterback Williams is gonna be a rock star.

1837
01:33:00,040 --> 01:33:02,439
Speaker 1: We didn't really see a ton of his upside last

1838
01:33:02,479 --> 01:33:04,599
Speaker 1: year because Washington was kind of going through a little

1839
01:33:04,600 --> 01:33:07,040
Speaker 1: bit of a transition. Right leave Kaitlin to Boord Leeds.

1840
01:33:07,360 --> 01:33:11,160
Speaker 1: You're bringing Jed Fish. That renovation took some time. But

1841
01:33:11,280 --> 01:33:13,360
Speaker 1: they bring back Williams, they bring back Joonah Coleman. Like,

1842
01:33:13,680 --> 01:33:16,479
Speaker 1: if you don't know who Jonah Coleman is, you're gonna

1843
01:33:16,560 --> 01:33:18,960
Speaker 1: have to know, because this dude is like a bowling ball.

1844
01:33:18,960 --> 01:33:20,439
Speaker 1: I think we bet on a lot of his props

1845
01:33:20,520 --> 01:33:22,400
Speaker 1: last year. If you were a fan of the show

1846
01:33:22,520 --> 01:33:24,720
Speaker 1: last year. I like the offensive line, I like the

1847
01:33:24,800 --> 01:33:27,960
Speaker 1: defensive line. I think they are much better than what

1848
01:33:28,120 --> 01:33:31,160
Speaker 1: the ranking indicates. They're going to start the season outside

1849
01:33:31,200 --> 01:33:33,080
Speaker 1: the top twenty five. A lot of really sharp people

1850
01:33:33,120 --> 01:33:36,040
Speaker 1: have them inside the top twenty five. And the schedule

1851
01:33:36,160 --> 01:33:39,479
Speaker 1: is very manageable. Colorado State, UC Davis, Wazoo. Those are

1852
01:33:39,479 --> 01:33:42,040
Speaker 1: your first three games. You're starting three and oh there,

1853
01:33:42,439 --> 01:33:44,400
Speaker 1: and then you play Ollile State at home. You would

1854
01:33:44,400 --> 01:33:47,040
Speaker 1: obviously expect to lose that game. Then it's Maryland, Then

1855
01:33:47,080 --> 01:33:50,000
Speaker 1: it's Rutgers Michigan. Tough game on the road in ann Arbor.

1856
01:33:50,120 --> 01:33:52,360
Speaker 1: But I think the real reason why I like a

1857
01:33:52,400 --> 01:33:54,760
Speaker 1: couple of these big ten teams to the over is

1858
01:33:54,880 --> 01:33:58,879
Speaker 1: I'm down on the Illinois hype, and Washington gets Illinois

1859
01:33:58,920 --> 01:34:00,840
Speaker 1: at home, and I think that's a win for them,

1860
01:34:00,840 --> 01:34:02,680
Speaker 1: even though it's a toss up game. Illinois supposed to

1861
01:34:02,680 --> 01:34:05,439
Speaker 1: be really good this year. I'm down on Illinois, So

1862
01:34:05,520 --> 01:34:08,839
Speaker 1: I think USC Washington these are teams that play Illinois

1863
01:34:08,920 --> 01:34:11,400
Speaker 1: this year. Those are the overs that I like. I'll

1864
01:34:11,439 --> 01:34:14,840
Speaker 1: give you USC next over seven and a half. Lincoln Riley.

1865
01:34:15,240 --> 01:34:17,280
Speaker 1: You can't go six and six this year, Bud. I'm sorry,

1866
01:34:17,439 --> 01:34:19,040
Speaker 1: not with the talent that you have on this roster.

1867
01:34:19,760 --> 01:34:22,360
Speaker 1: And I love the start to their schedule too. Missouri State, Georgia,

1868
01:34:22,439 --> 01:34:25,360
Speaker 1: Southern Perdue, Michigan State. You're starting four and uh like

1869
01:34:25,520 --> 01:34:27,519
Speaker 1: you're four and oh right out of the gate. Then

1870
01:34:27,600 --> 01:34:30,720
Speaker 1: you go to Illinois and we expect that. I don't

1871
01:34:30,720 --> 01:34:34,120
Speaker 1: think we've seen a higher preseason ranking for this Illinois

1872
01:34:34,120 --> 01:34:37,120
Speaker 1: team in quite some time. A lot of excitement Altmeyer

1873
01:34:37,200 --> 01:34:41,120
Speaker 1: comes back, but I'm just not that bullish on Illinois.

1874
01:34:41,160 --> 01:34:44,320
Speaker 1: So if I think there is a misprice on another

1875
01:34:44,479 --> 01:34:46,960
Speaker 1: team in the Big ten and I get a chance

1876
01:34:47,200 --> 01:34:50,120
Speaker 1: for teams in the toss up scenario to be on

1877
01:34:50,200 --> 01:34:52,680
Speaker 1: the plus side of that, I like over wins for

1878
01:34:52,760 --> 01:34:54,800
Speaker 1: both of those teams and seven and a half. Listen,

1879
01:34:55,560 --> 01:34:58,519
Speaker 1: USC going eight and four doesn't sound like a very

1880
01:34:58,640 --> 01:35:01,400
Speaker 1: sexy year, but you're getting paid on that. So I

1881
01:35:01,439 --> 01:35:04,599
Speaker 1: think USC over seven and a half, Washington over seven

1882
01:35:04,640 --> 01:35:06,840
Speaker 1: and a half. Because we're fading the Illinois hip this year.

1883
01:35:06,840 --> 01:35:08,400
Speaker 1: I think those are the two Big ten totals out

1884
01:35:08,400 --> 01:35:09,760
Speaker 1: of the target. Man, I hear you.

1885
01:35:10,200 --> 01:35:13,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting it ties back to Illinois. Yeah, it

1886
01:35:13,640 --> 01:35:16,280
Speaker 2: just blows my mind. If when Lincoln Riley was hired

1887
01:35:16,479 --> 01:35:19,280
Speaker 2: at USC. If you would have said, hey, you know,

1888
01:35:19,479 --> 01:35:21,800
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five season, their season win total is going

1889
01:35:21,840 --> 01:35:25,240
Speaker 2: to be seven and a half, you'd be like, wow, really,

1890
01:35:26,000 --> 01:35:28,080
Speaker 2: that'd be really hard to buy when he took over,

1891
01:35:28,200 --> 01:35:31,400
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Speaker 2: you know, just jogging running outside or something upbeat? Is

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Speaker 2: that Chris is that featured in the movie Snatch?

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Speaker 3: It was in the Matrix?

1913
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Speaker 2: The Matrix. Oh, I didn't know if that was a

1914
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Speaker 2: Have you seen that with Brad Pitt and great movie?

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Speaker 2: Ye Statham. I don't know if that's at the beginning

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Speaker 2: there as well, might be not sure, all right, Jared Smith,

1917
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Speaker 2: We've got some scathing criticisms of NFL quarterbacks.

1918
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Speaker 1: I love this.

1919
01:36:53,560 --> 01:36:56,880
Speaker 2: So it's the annual QB tiers list that comes out

1920
01:36:57,000 --> 01:36:59,880
Speaker 2: compliments of Mike Sando. Is it with the Athletic Now

1921
01:37:00,080 --> 01:37:03,639
Speaker 2: And he talks to all these head coaches, GMS, NFL

1922
01:37:03,720 --> 01:37:08,360
Speaker 2: execs and they give them these unfiltered, anonymous comments about

1923
01:37:08,439 --> 01:37:12,040
Speaker 2: quarterbacks and some of these, man, they're harsh, but I

1924
01:37:12,080 --> 01:37:15,000
Speaker 2: would argue completely fair. Listen to a couple of these.

1925
01:37:15,560 --> 01:37:18,759
Speaker 2: So this is a defensive coach on Cardinals quarterback Kyler

1926
01:37:18,880 --> 01:37:23,280
Speaker 2: Murray right, he says, creates the mismatch with his legs,

1927
01:37:23,479 --> 01:37:26,560
Speaker 2: not his arm. He's a Tier three quarterback with the

1928
01:37:26,640 --> 01:37:30,720
Speaker 2: good looking baseball slide after his fourth scramble in a

1929
01:37:30,800 --> 01:37:35,400
Speaker 2: two minute drill. Ouch, that's what do you think about?

1930
01:37:35,439 --> 01:37:35,479
Speaker 6: That?

1931
01:37:35,680 --> 01:37:38,759
Speaker 2: Is that on point? Although harsh, on point, very harsh.

1932
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Speaker 1: Can I just say in general, I can't stand anonymous quotes.

1933
01:37:43,200 --> 01:37:45,680
Speaker 2: Just own it, man, Just I get it. I know,

1934
01:37:45,840 --> 01:37:47,680
Speaker 2: I know the Herm Edwards. Put your name on it.

1935
01:37:47,760 --> 01:37:49,880
Speaker 2: But that's sometimes when you get the good stuff.

1936
01:37:50,080 --> 01:37:54,360
Speaker 1: Yes, but also if it's that good, put your freaking

1937
01:37:54,479 --> 01:37:58,479
Speaker 1: name on it. If it's really that spot on, own it.

1938
01:37:59,040 --> 01:38:04,360
Speaker 1: Ten toes down, chest out. In this particular case, I

1939
01:38:04,439 --> 01:38:08,840
Speaker 1: think it's fair to say that we haven't seen the

1940
01:38:08,920 --> 01:38:13,360
Speaker 1: best of Kyler Murray. I think it's really more the

1941
01:38:13,439 --> 01:38:17,560
Speaker 1: second half of the season where he's fallen off. His

1942
01:38:17,800 --> 01:38:20,519
Speaker 1: first half numbers were pretty good last year. Second half

1943
01:38:20,560 --> 01:38:23,680
Speaker 1: of the year not so great. The improvements I need

1944
01:38:23,720 --> 01:38:25,720
Speaker 1: to see are throwing the deep ball based off of

1945
01:38:25,800 --> 01:38:29,639
Speaker 1: my numbers, but nine touchdowns, eight picks from week eleven

1946
01:38:29,680 --> 01:38:32,560
Speaker 1: on last year. That's the bigger issue for me, is

1947
01:38:33,040 --> 01:38:38,000
Speaker 1: it seems like he's more easily figure outable digestible, like

1948
01:38:38,400 --> 01:38:41,200
Speaker 1: you kind of need to, you know, digest the meal

1949
01:38:41,320 --> 01:38:43,040
Speaker 1: first and then once you get to the second half

1950
01:38:43,080 --> 01:38:45,000
Speaker 1: of the season he doesn't. And maybe that's because his

1951
01:38:45,160 --> 01:38:48,240
Speaker 1: legs tape are off a little bit. But yeah, I

1952
01:38:48,320 --> 01:38:49,519
Speaker 1: think it's fair criticism.

1953
01:38:49,600 --> 01:38:51,680
Speaker 2: But just put your name on it, bro, Well you're

1954
01:38:51,720 --> 01:38:55,200
Speaker 2: not gonna get that in this, you know. Sorry, But yeah,

1955
01:38:55,560 --> 01:38:57,320
Speaker 2: like I said, I hear you. And that's the thing.

1956
01:38:57,479 --> 01:38:57,600
Speaker 6: You know.

1957
01:38:57,680 --> 01:39:00,160
Speaker 2: What it makes me think of, though, Jared is it

1958
01:39:00,240 --> 01:39:03,519
Speaker 2: makes me think of Cliff Kingsbury because I've read a

1959
01:39:03,560 --> 01:39:06,960
Speaker 2: lot in the offseason where it's like, hey, Jaden Daniels,

1960
01:39:07,160 --> 01:39:10,800
Speaker 2: he still has Cliff Kingsbury, so yeah, I don't know,

1961
01:39:11,000 --> 01:39:13,400
Speaker 2: he might drop off a little bit. It's like, well,

1962
01:39:13,439 --> 01:39:17,240
Speaker 2: Cliff Kingsbury had Kyler Murray. Do you think Jaden Daniels

1963
01:39:17,360 --> 01:39:19,680
Speaker 2: is better than Kyler Murray? Absolutely?

1964
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Speaker 6: He is.

1965
01:39:20,280 --> 01:39:24,439
Speaker 2: So why do we believe that anybody like Jaden Daniels

1966
01:39:24,479 --> 01:39:26,000
Speaker 2: he's going to be the next to fall off just

1967
01:39:26,080 --> 01:39:29,519
Speaker 2: because of Cliff? I mean I think Cliff fell off

1968
01:39:29,560 --> 01:39:32,640
Speaker 2: a lot because of Kyler, Right, Like that fair all

1969
01:39:32,920 --> 01:39:35,800
Speaker 2: ties together? How about this to a tongue of I

1970
01:39:35,920 --> 01:39:38,880
Speaker 2: lois so there's a defensive coach that said this about

1971
01:39:38,920 --> 01:39:42,759
Speaker 2: to harsh, but true. I've yet to see him carry

1972
01:39:42,840 --> 01:39:46,040
Speaker 2: his team when they are not clicking in other phases.

1973
01:39:46,320 --> 01:39:49,759
Speaker 2: Has Miami ever won where their run game is getting killed,

1974
01:39:50,120 --> 01:39:52,800
Speaker 2: they can't hit play action stuff, and it's time. It's

1975
01:39:52,880 --> 01:39:56,160
Speaker 2: just time for Tua to sling the ball. And it's like, yeah,

1976
01:39:56,200 --> 01:39:58,479
Speaker 2: it's a good point. We really haven't seen that, have we?

1977
01:39:58,920 --> 01:39:59,479
Speaker 2: I don't think so.

1978
01:40:00,240 --> 01:40:05,160
Speaker 1: To be fair, in the last three years, Tua is

1979
01:40:05,240 --> 01:40:07,639
Speaker 1: the only quarterback in the league to rank top five

1980
01:40:08,040 --> 01:40:11,200
Speaker 1: in every major category. How about that? Not granted, he

1981
01:40:11,200 --> 01:40:13,360
Speaker 1: hasn't played a lot of those games. He's missed a

1982
01:40:13,400 --> 01:40:16,439
Speaker 1: lot of time, but he's been pretty darn successful. Again.

1983
01:40:16,880 --> 01:40:18,920
Speaker 1: Out of sixty four quarterbacks with at least two hundred

1984
01:40:18,920 --> 01:40:22,840
Speaker 1: attempts in this span, third and EPA third, and success

1985
01:40:22,960 --> 01:40:25,479
Speaker 1: rate second and YPA second, and completion rate second and

1986
01:40:25,520 --> 01:40:28,360
Speaker 1: fifteen yard explosive pass. Right. I mean, when he's on

1987
01:40:28,560 --> 01:40:32,439
Speaker 1: the field, it's really hard to say he's not a

1988
01:40:32,479 --> 01:40:33,160
Speaker 1: good quarterback.

1989
01:40:33,400 --> 01:40:33,920
Speaker 4: No he is.

1990
01:40:34,000 --> 01:40:34,759
Speaker 1: He's not on the field.

1991
01:40:35,040 --> 01:40:38,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know it that. You know what, and don't

1992
01:40:38,040 --> 01:40:40,240
Speaker 2: take this as a slight Jared, you might actually agree

1993
01:40:40,280 --> 01:40:44,040
Speaker 2: with this some Penn State vibes with Tua. From the

1994
01:40:44,080 --> 01:40:47,720
Speaker 2: standpoint of this, he's been productive, he's had wins, but

1995
01:40:47,840 --> 01:40:50,320
Speaker 2: in these big games, these big moments, where are the

1996
01:40:50,439 --> 01:40:53,080
Speaker 2: big wins from Tua? And it's not all his fault,

1997
01:40:53,600 --> 01:40:56,480
Speaker 2: but I mean, do you trust him going to Arrowhead

1998
01:40:56,680 --> 01:40:59,760
Speaker 2: in January? It's like, oh God, this is a freaking rap.

1999
01:41:00,160 --> 01:41:02,640
Speaker 2: Until he has those huge wins, that's just going to be.

2000
01:41:02,640 --> 01:41:05,479
Speaker 1: His rep I would agree again though, when I look

2001
01:41:05,520 --> 01:41:06,960
Speaker 1: at the numbers and I look at when he's on

2002
01:41:07,000 --> 01:41:10,800
Speaker 1: the field only quarterback, There's only been three quarterbacks in

2003
01:41:10,840 --> 01:41:14,360
Speaker 1: the league besides Tua that have led their team to

2004
01:41:14,439 --> 01:41:17,519
Speaker 1: a winning record in each of their first five years

2005
01:41:17,560 --> 01:41:20,400
Speaker 1: in the league. It's Mahomes, It's Lamar, It's Josh Allen

2006
01:41:20,640 --> 01:41:24,320
Speaker 1: and Tua. So when he is on the field, it

2007
01:41:24,479 --> 01:41:27,439
Speaker 1: is really hard to say. He is not an elite quarterback,

2008
01:41:27,960 --> 01:41:30,360
Speaker 1: but his availability has been the biggest issue.

2009
01:41:30,680 --> 01:41:34,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt about that. Now, this one, this is harsh,

2010
01:41:34,439 --> 01:41:36,800
Speaker 2: but it's just funny. I just have to read it

2011
01:41:36,840 --> 01:41:40,280
Speaker 2: because it's funny. It's an offensive coach on Jets quarterback

2012
01:41:40,479 --> 01:41:43,720
Speaker 2: justin fields. Oh boy, okay, and this coach says the

2013
01:41:43,880 --> 01:41:46,559
Speaker 2: Jets know who he is. It starts off positively. They

2014
01:41:46,640 --> 01:41:48,519
Speaker 2: know who he is, what he is, and they are

2015
01:41:48,600 --> 01:41:52,160
Speaker 2: going to try to structure things for him. The problem

2016
01:41:52,360 --> 01:41:55,080
Speaker 2: is the hardest thing to fix with the quarterback is

2017
01:41:55,240 --> 01:41:59,120
Speaker 2: keeping their eyes up the field, seeing the field, and

2018
01:41:59,280 --> 01:42:02,840
Speaker 2: not being a affected by the rush. And those are

2019
01:42:02,960 --> 01:42:07,400
Speaker 2: three of the worst things that he does. Like other

2020
01:42:07,520 --> 01:42:10,120
Speaker 2: than that, we're cooking with grease over here, but these

2021
01:42:10,160 --> 01:42:12,680
Speaker 2: three important things. Man, he sucks at those things. You know,

2022
01:42:13,439 --> 01:42:14,240
Speaker 2: that's what he's saying.

2023
01:42:14,760 --> 01:42:17,000
Speaker 1: So again, I did a deep dive on fields in

2024
01:42:17,080 --> 01:42:21,000
Speaker 1: the offseason. I just the numbers are just really bad.

2025
01:42:21,320 --> 01:42:23,559
Speaker 1: I mean, so I had one hundred and twenty seven

2026
01:42:23,680 --> 01:42:28,360
Speaker 1: qualifiers in this sample every quarterback with at least four

2027
01:42:28,400 --> 01:42:30,400
Speaker 1: hunder passing attempts in their first four years since two

2028
01:42:30,880 --> 01:42:33,880
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty seven quarterbacks in this sample one hundred

2029
01:42:33,880 --> 01:42:37,200
Speaker 1: and eleventh in EPA, one hundred and seventeenth in success rate,

2030
01:42:37,320 --> 01:42:39,439
Speaker 1: one twenty fifth in sack and I in t rate,

2031
01:42:39,880 --> 01:42:42,960
Speaker 1: one twenty fifth in pressure rate, one twenty sixth in

2032
01:42:43,280 --> 01:42:46,800
Speaker 1: just sack rate overall. I mean, it's just I mean,

2033
01:42:46,840 --> 01:42:49,799
Speaker 1: you're talking about here are some of the other guys

2034
01:42:50,240 --> 01:42:56,000
Speaker 1: in fields' tier that was ranked in this database. Deshaun Kaiser,

2035
01:42:56,080 --> 01:43:00,759
Speaker 1: JaMarcus Russell, John Skelton, Zach Wilson, Ryan leaf ej Manuel Harley, Fry,

2036
01:43:00,920 --> 01:43:04,120
Speaker 1: Josh Rose, and Chad Hutchinson. Oh, those are the other

2037
01:43:04,240 --> 01:43:06,839
Speaker 1: quarterbacks that are kind of in the vicinity of Fields's

2038
01:43:07,320 --> 01:43:11,360
Speaker 1: efficiency numbers, success rate numbers, sack rate numbers. That's who

2039
01:43:11,400 --> 01:43:12,160
Speaker 1: we're comparing him to.

2040
01:43:12,479 --> 01:43:16,000
Speaker 2: That is the worst neighborhood in the world. Like whatever

2041
01:43:16,120 --> 01:43:18,479
Speaker 2: you think is a bad neighborhood, that neighborhood that you

2042
01:43:18,680 --> 01:43:20,080
Speaker 2: just throw there is way.

2043
01:43:20,040 --> 01:43:22,000
Speaker 1: With some serious names on that list.

2044
01:43:22,080 --> 01:43:25,599
Speaker 2: Brother, that's really bad. Yeah, all right, let me give

2045
01:43:25,600 --> 01:43:29,920
Speaker 2: you one here. This is about Eagles quarterback Jalen Hurts. Okay,

2046
01:43:30,000 --> 01:43:32,479
Speaker 2: now you hear the tiers. It's a little wordy, but

2047
01:43:32,680 --> 01:43:34,720
Speaker 2: just so we understand the difference between a Tier two

2048
01:43:34,800 --> 01:43:37,160
Speaker 2: and a Tier three quarterback as they define it on

2049
01:43:37,280 --> 01:43:40,880
Speaker 2: this Mike Sando list. Okay, So, a Tier two quarterback

2050
01:43:41,520 --> 01:43:44,120
Speaker 2: it's a quarterback that can carry his team sometimes but

2051
01:43:44,280 --> 01:43:48,879
Speaker 2: not as consistently, can handle pure passing situations in doses,

2052
01:43:49,320 --> 01:43:53,360
Speaker 2: and possesses other dimensions that are special enough to elevate

2053
01:43:53,479 --> 01:43:55,680
Speaker 2: him above Tier three. He has a whole or two

2054
01:43:55,760 --> 01:43:58,000
Speaker 2: in his game. All right, that's a tier two quarterback.

2055
01:43:58,200 --> 01:44:01,960
Speaker 2: Tier three quarterback is jitimate starter, but needs a heavier

2056
01:44:02,080 --> 01:44:06,160
Speaker 2: running game and or defensive component to win. A lower

2057
01:44:06,280 --> 01:44:10,040
Speaker 2: volume drop back passing offense suits him best. Okay, so

2058
01:44:10,160 --> 01:44:13,280
Speaker 2: that's the backdrop tier tier three. Here's a former GM

2059
01:44:13,880 --> 01:44:17,600
Speaker 2: on Jalen Hurts. I think he's a three. They are

2060
01:44:17,760 --> 01:44:20,519
Speaker 2: very talented around him, and he is not as consistent

2061
01:44:20,640 --> 01:44:23,360
Speaker 2: as a passer. They have a strong defense, great playmakers,

2062
01:44:23,400 --> 01:44:26,280
Speaker 2: great offensive line. He is able to function that way,

2063
01:44:26,920 --> 01:44:29,360
Speaker 2: but I don't know that he is the one that

2064
01:44:29,560 --> 01:44:32,439
Speaker 2: elevates them. That's not a slight. He's a good player,

2065
01:44:32,720 --> 01:44:36,040
Speaker 2: but putting him in that two category, I don't see that.

2066
01:44:36,920 --> 01:44:37,680
Speaker 2: What do you think about that?

2067
01:44:38,600 --> 01:44:41,800
Speaker 1: I would agree again when I look at Hurts, when

2068
01:44:41,840 --> 01:44:43,840
Speaker 1: I dig into some of those numbers, a lot of

2069
01:44:43,920 --> 01:44:47,120
Speaker 1: it was masked for two reasons. One, you have Saquon

2070
01:44:47,200 --> 01:44:50,880
Speaker 1: Barkley last year. I don't think it's fair to grade

2071
01:44:51,000 --> 01:44:54,360
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts based off of his efficiency. You have to

2072
01:44:54,479 --> 01:44:57,600
Speaker 1: account for Saquon. That allows a lot more one on

2073
01:44:57,720 --> 01:45:00,160
Speaker 1: one opportunities on the outside for the Eagles receivers who

2074
01:45:00,160 --> 01:45:04,120
Speaker 1: are uberly talented. The second reason why I think Jalen

2075
01:45:04,200 --> 01:45:08,200
Speaker 1: Hurts gets kind of an easier road is because the

2076
01:45:08,360 --> 01:45:12,519
Speaker 1: Eagles are basically four down territory. Every single time they

2077
01:45:12,600 --> 01:45:14,679
Speaker 1: have the ball, they only have to get the fourth

2078
01:45:14,720 --> 01:45:17,920
Speaker 1: and one. If it's third and four, you can run

2079
01:45:17,960 --> 01:45:20,120
Speaker 1: the ball because if you can set up fourth and one,

2080
01:45:20,200 --> 01:45:22,760
Speaker 1: you're going touch push. So you kind of get this

2081
01:45:23,280 --> 01:45:28,200
Speaker 1: built in safety blanket in the play calling for Jalen Hurts.

2082
01:45:28,320 --> 01:45:30,559
Speaker 1: And then when you look at the pressure, the pressure

2083
01:45:30,600 --> 01:45:33,040
Speaker 1: rates the second thing and the turnover worthy play rate

2084
01:45:33,120 --> 01:45:34,720
Speaker 1: are the two things that really stood out to me.

2085
01:45:34,920 --> 01:45:38,360
Speaker 1: Eagles offensive line was great last year, but Jalen Hurts

2086
01:45:38,439 --> 01:45:40,040
Speaker 1: was still pressured at the second highest rate of any

2087
01:45:40,120 --> 01:45:42,320
Speaker 1: quarterback in the NFL forty one percent of dropbacks. He

2088
01:45:42,360 --> 01:45:44,400
Speaker 1: took pressure why his time to throw rate and his

2089
01:45:44,520 --> 01:45:47,920
Speaker 1: processing speed is just a little bit too slow, and

2090
01:45:48,080 --> 01:45:50,559
Speaker 1: he made a lot of really boneheaded plays last year

2091
01:45:50,600 --> 01:45:53,200
Speaker 1: that didn't result in interceptions. He had a three and

2092
01:45:53,280 --> 01:45:55,920
Speaker 1: a half percent turnover worthy play rate, which ranked twenty third,

2093
01:45:56,120 --> 01:45:58,679
Speaker 1: but he only threw five interceptions. He had a similar

2094
01:45:58,880 --> 01:46:01,880
Speaker 1: turnover worthy play rate two years ago and threw fifteen picks.

2095
01:46:02,040 --> 01:46:03,519
Speaker 1: So we kind of got a little lucky with the

2096
01:46:03,560 --> 01:46:08,160
Speaker 1: turnover battle. I think the interceptions are gonna increase this year,

2097
01:46:08,680 --> 01:46:11,920
Speaker 1: and if the run game efficiency drops even one notch.

2098
01:46:12,840 --> 01:46:15,240
Speaker 1: This and again I talked about earlier with Loeffler and

2099
01:46:15,320 --> 01:46:18,839
Speaker 1: and Sirianni and Patulo, like kind of the game planning

2100
01:46:18,960 --> 01:46:21,200
Speaker 1: for the offense for the Eagles, you're throwing the AJ

2101
01:46:21,360 --> 01:46:23,960
Speaker 1: Brown soft tissue injury. I am very barish on the

2102
01:46:24,000 --> 01:46:25,600
Speaker 1: Eagles offense this year. I hear you.

2103
01:46:25,720 --> 01:46:30,560
Speaker 2: I'm with you, But I can envision someone listening to

2104
01:46:30,640 --> 01:46:33,160
Speaker 2: a bunch of numbers that you threw out and saying,

2105
01:46:33,280 --> 01:46:36,439
Speaker 2: shove him, he wins. Right For those people who say that.

2106
01:46:36,760 --> 01:46:39,240
Speaker 2: For those people who say that, I would push back

2107
01:46:39,280 --> 01:46:42,360
Speaker 2: on them saying that, because I would point to Nick Foles,

2108
01:46:42,840 --> 01:46:46,519
Speaker 2: Eagles quarterback won a Super Bowl journeyman the rest of

2109
01:46:46,600 --> 01:46:49,479
Speaker 2: his career. Okay, just because you win on the biggest

2110
01:46:49,520 --> 01:46:53,479
Speaker 2: stage doesn't mean you're that guy, regardless of the talent

2111
01:46:53,560 --> 01:46:56,400
Speaker 2: around you. You put Jalen Hurtz on the Titans and

2112
01:46:56,520 --> 01:46:59,759
Speaker 2: you think that he's like a top five, top ten quarterback, chance,

2113
01:47:00,160 --> 01:47:03,519
Speaker 2: No way, he's that guy. I point to another guy.

2114
01:47:03,560 --> 01:47:06,679
Speaker 2: Look at Jimmy g We're not that many years removed

2115
01:47:06,720 --> 01:47:09,759
Speaker 2: from you. Remember these people Jared like, he just wins,

2116
01:47:10,280 --> 01:47:13,320
Speaker 2: like loud volume, Like this was right before perty. It

2117
01:47:13,479 --> 01:47:17,920
Speaker 2: just transitioned right into he just wins. Jimmy, g Yeah

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Speaker 2: he did. He won a lot of games. He was

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01:47:20,080 --> 01:47:22,680
Speaker 2: a win away from winning a Super Bowl, and then

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01:47:22,760 --> 01:47:25,679
Speaker 2: he left the Niners and he went to the Raiders

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01:47:25,920 --> 01:47:29,000
Speaker 2: and guess what, the winning just evaporated into thin air.

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01:47:29,280 --> 01:47:31,280
Speaker 2: Where are the wins? Jimmy, I thought he just won?

2123
01:47:31,479 --> 01:47:35,320
Speaker 2: Like who, you're surrounded by matters, and Jalen Hurts is

2124
01:47:35,400 --> 01:47:38,880
Speaker 2: surrounded by the best roster in the NFL. If you

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01:47:38,920 --> 01:47:41,280
Speaker 2: put him on a much lesser roster, like a bottom

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01:47:41,400 --> 01:47:45,599
Speaker 2: ten roster, it's a rap. So that might seem harsh,

2127
01:47:45,640 --> 01:47:48,439
Speaker 2: but it's true. I'll give you one more and then

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01:47:48,520 --> 01:47:51,560
Speaker 2: we'll get to these cheating, low life Wolverines, you know,

2129
01:47:52,160 --> 01:47:55,320
Speaker 2: he said. Defensive coordinator on Caleb Williams. Now, think about this.

2130
01:47:55,560 --> 01:48:00,080
Speaker 2: A defensive coordinator right going up against Caleb Williams, he

2131
01:48:00,160 --> 01:48:03,000
Speaker 2: had this to say. He's got the talent to go

2132
01:48:03,240 --> 01:48:06,519
Speaker 2: up but in terms of processing ability and getting the

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01:48:06,640 --> 01:48:09,560
Speaker 2: ball out of his hands, it was the worst we

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01:48:09,720 --> 01:48:13,000
Speaker 2: played against. He just holds the ball forever. I'm thinking

2135
01:48:13,400 --> 01:48:15,840
Speaker 2: the ball should go right there, throw it, throw it,

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01:48:16,280 --> 01:48:18,840
Speaker 2: and he did not throw it. As the quote from

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Speaker 2: the DC, that's a defensive coordinator saying, like, dude, throw

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01:48:21,840 --> 01:48:24,320
Speaker 2: the ball. You know you would want as a defensive

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01:48:24,360 --> 01:48:26,920
Speaker 2: coordinator for him not to throw the ball. But it

2140
01:48:27,040 --> 01:48:29,639
Speaker 2: was so egregious. He's just like, the ball should be out, man,

2141
01:48:30,160 --> 01:48:31,719
Speaker 2: that's a legitimate knock.

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01:48:32,640 --> 01:48:36,400
Speaker 1: Very fair criticism. I think that though, I would rather

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01:48:36,640 --> 01:48:38,519
Speaker 1: that be the knock than he just doesn't have the

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01:48:38,600 --> 01:48:41,080
Speaker 1: arm strength to get the ball there. Because I think

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01:48:41,840 --> 01:48:44,320
Speaker 1: Ben Johnson can smooth out a lot of those wrinkles

2146
01:48:44,479 --> 01:48:46,160
Speaker 1: like you get. You know, it's like when you graduate.

2147
01:48:46,240 --> 01:48:48,880
Speaker 1: When I used to, you know, live in New York

2148
01:48:48,920 --> 01:48:51,280
Speaker 1: City and I had this little podunk dryer and all

2149
01:48:51,360 --> 01:48:54,200
Speaker 1: my clothes would come out wrinkled even after the dryer.

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01:48:54,520 --> 01:48:56,559
Speaker 1: And then I moved into a bigger place in Jersey

2151
01:48:56,640 --> 01:48:58,519
Speaker 1: City a couple years later and I had one of

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01:48:58,520 --> 01:49:02,160
Speaker 1: those really nice, you know dryers. I put those clothes

2153
01:49:02,200 --> 01:49:04,519
Speaker 1: in the dryer. Man, that stuff came out smooth as silk. Baby.

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01:49:05,000 --> 01:49:08,080
Speaker 1: I think Ben Johnson is going to smooth out some

2155
01:49:08,280 --> 01:49:12,360
Speaker 1: of those wrinkles. He's the ge dri he is the

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01:49:12,520 --> 01:49:16,599
Speaker 1: advanced level drying system for your clothes. No, I mean,

2157
01:49:16,800 --> 01:49:19,120
Speaker 1: you know, play action pre Snott motion, the ability to

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01:49:19,160 --> 01:49:23,280
Speaker 1: get Jared Goff into very easy readable situations. Play action

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01:49:23,400 --> 01:49:26,320
Speaker 1: is really the key. The Bears hardly ran play action

2160
01:49:26,439 --> 01:49:27,880
Speaker 1: last year. They had one of the lowest play action

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01:49:28,000 --> 01:49:30,120
Speaker 1: rates in the league forty two at of forty six

2162
01:49:30,200 --> 01:49:32,720
Speaker 1: qualifying quarterbacks, just a twenty six percent play action rate,

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01:49:32,760 --> 01:49:35,240
Speaker 1: where Jared Goff had the fourth highest. Like, those are

2164
01:49:35,320 --> 01:49:37,760
Speaker 1: things when you are back to the defense, but you

2165
01:49:37,920 --> 01:49:41,400
Speaker 1: are making the reads easier for your quarterback. I think

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01:49:41,520 --> 01:49:43,880
Speaker 1: that is where we're gonna see. The biggest progression with

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01:49:44,000 --> 01:49:46,200
Speaker 1: Caleb Williams. The question is how quickly can he pick

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Speaker 1: up an offense. I think it might start slow and

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01:49:48,520 --> 01:49:50,000
Speaker 1: you might get a little bit of a of an

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Speaker 1: ascent later in the year. That's why I like the

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Speaker 1: Vikings in that Week one game.

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01:49:53,520 --> 01:49:56,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, interesting, I think that. Look, man, there was

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01:49:56,720 --> 01:50:01,440
Speaker 2: a lot of Caleb Williams. One, it's either slowly processing

2174
01:50:01,560 --> 01:50:03,360
Speaker 2: things he's a rookie, you know, give it a little

2175
01:50:03,360 --> 01:50:05,120
Speaker 2: bit of time. Or two he's just trying to hit

2176
01:50:05,160 --> 01:50:07,639
Speaker 2: a big play. Yeah, he did that consistently at USC.

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Speaker 2: It's just not gonna work in the NFL. You can't

2178
01:50:10,000 --> 01:50:11,200
Speaker 2: be looking for He's not looking for.

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01:50:11,240 --> 01:50:11,680
Speaker 4: A home run.

2180
01:50:11,720 --> 01:50:15,880
Speaker 2: He's looking for a grand slams plural in almost every game.

2181
01:50:15,960 --> 01:50:17,880
Speaker 2: And it's like, bro, it doesn't work, like you got

2182
01:50:17,960 --> 01:50:20,280
Speaker 2: to take a five yard out. Just stay on schedule,

2183
01:50:20,520 --> 01:50:23,920
Speaker 2: you know, quick, easy, five yards, three yards, just keep

2184
01:50:23,960 --> 01:50:26,160
Speaker 2: it moving. You know, he's got to learn how to

2185
01:50:26,280 --> 01:50:28,120
Speaker 2: do that, because I don't have a problem with you

2186
01:50:28,240 --> 01:50:29,880
Speaker 2: looking for a big play. You just can't do it

2187
01:50:29,960 --> 01:50:32,799
Speaker 2: as much as he does it and get sacked sixty

2188
01:50:32,840 --> 01:50:36,080
Speaker 2: eight times. So you're right. Hopefully Ben Johnson will be

2189
01:50:36,160 --> 01:50:37,920
Speaker 2: able to straighten a lot of that out. But he's

2190
01:50:37,920 --> 01:50:40,000
Speaker 2: got to play a lot quicker man, a lot quicker

2191
01:50:40,040 --> 01:50:43,920
Speaker 2: in the NFL. Okay, these cheating Wolverines over here, new punishments,

2192
01:50:44,320 --> 01:50:47,840
Speaker 2: the signs stealing scandal. So they're gonna be fined about

2193
01:50:47,920 --> 01:50:51,320
Speaker 2: thirty million bucks, big deal. I think they can sneeze

2194
01:50:51,360 --> 01:50:52,880
Speaker 2: thirty million dollars and be like.

2195
01:50:53,520 --> 01:50:55,280
Speaker 1: That's like one and a half Brice Underwoods.

2196
01:50:55,520 --> 01:50:59,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're not gonna vacate wins, which I'm a fan of. Jared,

2197
01:50:59,520 --> 01:51:02,040
Speaker 2: I'm curious you think about this. One of the themes

2198
01:51:02,080 --> 01:51:06,240
Speaker 2: from this whole cheating scandal, the new punishments. The NCAA

2199
01:51:06,439 --> 01:51:09,840
Speaker 2: was like, well, we really don't want to punish the

2200
01:51:10,000 --> 01:51:12,960
Speaker 2: new players who had nothing to do with this whatsoever,

2201
01:51:13,640 --> 01:51:15,840
Speaker 2: So we don't want to just like slap like all

2202
01:51:15,920 --> 01:51:20,080
Speaker 2: these scholarship reductions and probation and no bowl games at all.

2203
01:51:20,200 --> 01:51:21,400
Speaker 2: We don't want to do that, And we don't want

2204
01:51:21,439 --> 01:51:25,040
Speaker 2: to take wins away from the past because they weren't

2205
01:51:25,040 --> 01:51:29,000
Speaker 2: playing with ineligible players. So if you're not doing anything

2206
01:51:29,320 --> 01:51:33,760
Speaker 2: for the future or the past, it's money. I guess

2207
01:51:33,880 --> 01:51:35,400
Speaker 2: that's about the only thing you really.

2208
01:51:35,320 --> 01:51:38,960
Speaker 1: Can do here. Yeah, I am not a fan of

2209
01:51:39,600 --> 01:51:43,160
Speaker 1: punishing the current players based off of the sins that

2210
01:51:43,280 --> 01:51:45,200
Speaker 1: Like you don't punish the son for the sins of

2211
01:51:45,240 --> 01:51:48,280
Speaker 1: the father, like I just I'm a firm believer of that.

2212
01:51:49,320 --> 01:51:51,160
Speaker 1: We saw this with Penn State and it was it

2213
01:51:51,280 --> 01:51:53,200
Speaker 1: was horrible what they did. I mean, they were they

2214
01:51:53,360 --> 01:51:56,360
Speaker 1: ripped that program down to the studs for and made

2215
01:51:56,400 --> 01:51:59,000
Speaker 1: those kids lives miserable for things that they weren't even

2216
01:51:59,040 --> 01:52:00,400
Speaker 1: alive for when it was happening.

2217
01:52:00,439 --> 01:52:01,240
Speaker 2: Like, it's crazy.

2218
01:52:02,760 --> 01:52:06,040
Speaker 1: That being said, there does need to be some kind

2219
01:52:06,120 --> 01:52:09,920
Speaker 1: of come upance because just finding them thirty it's.

2220
01:52:09,840 --> 01:52:12,200
Speaker 2: Got to be It's crazy and if you're if you're

2221
01:52:12,240 --> 01:52:16,720
Speaker 2: suspending a Sharon Moore for a couple of games, it's

2222
01:52:16,760 --> 01:52:19,240
Speaker 2: got to be a big game. It can't be oh,

2223
01:52:19,360 --> 01:52:23,679
Speaker 2: hey we're at Nebraska, Okay, cool self and post stuff.

2224
01:52:23,920 --> 01:52:27,680
Speaker 2: Yeah its Central Michigan. What are we doing? Come on, man?

2225
01:52:27,800 --> 01:52:29,960
Speaker 8: Like that's I think some people have brought up this

2226
01:52:30,080 --> 01:52:32,320
Speaker 8: point too, and I think Doug dodleyb had this point.

2227
01:52:32,360 --> 01:52:36,040
Speaker 8: But like, finding them thirty million dollars isn't going to

2228
01:52:36,120 --> 01:52:38,040
Speaker 8: really do anything to the football program, but it will

2229
01:52:38,120 --> 01:52:41,519
Speaker 8: hurt like other programs, Like they'll take away money from

2230
01:52:41,600 --> 01:52:44,439
Speaker 8: like the swim the swimming team or the lacrosse team,

2231
01:52:44,479 --> 01:52:46,960
Speaker 8: but like they'll they'll just funnel that immediately back into

2232
01:52:47,000 --> 01:52:47,840
Speaker 8: the football program.

2233
01:52:47,960 --> 01:52:50,040
Speaker 1: It's also setting a precedent that you can cheat and

2234
01:52:50,120 --> 01:52:52,280
Speaker 1: we're not gonna hurt you. We're just gonna take a

2235
01:52:52,320 --> 01:52:54,320
Speaker 1: little money away and slap you on the wrist and maybe,

2236
01:52:54,400 --> 01:52:55,600
Speaker 1: you know, make a fool out of you for a

2237
01:52:55,640 --> 01:52:58,799
Speaker 1: couple of weeks. But it's got to be two years,

2238
01:52:58,920 --> 01:52:59,160
Speaker 1: I know.

2239
01:52:59,360 --> 01:53:01,519
Speaker 2: And this is all we got after all of this.

2240
01:53:01,760 --> 01:53:04,360
Speaker 2: It's basically a slap on the wrist. It's a joke.

2241
01:53:04,479 --> 01:53:06,720
Speaker 2: The other thing it makes me think of is the

2242
01:53:06,840 --> 01:53:10,840
Speaker 2: more you accomplish, the more you get scrutinized. Because if

2243
01:53:10,880 --> 01:53:15,000
Speaker 2: you look at the Patriots, Okay, this is Michigan's sign

2244
01:53:15,200 --> 01:53:20,400
Speaker 2: stealing scandal, and for the most part, it's a shoulder shrug.

2245
01:53:20,840 --> 01:53:23,200
Speaker 2: You know, certainly you're gonna get some Ohio State fans

2246
01:53:23,240 --> 01:53:26,080
Speaker 2: are completely bent. I don't make it sound like everybody's

2247
01:53:26,200 --> 01:53:29,960
Speaker 2: shrugging their shoulders. But for the most part, Jared, right,

2248
01:53:30,080 --> 01:53:35,400
Speaker 2: are you getting Patriot like venom toward mission? Not even

2249
01:53:35,840 --> 01:53:40,720
Speaker 2: freaking close where it's the Patriots. They have Spygate and

2250
01:53:40,760 --> 01:53:42,360
Speaker 2: all that, and it's made out by a lot of

2251
01:53:42,400 --> 01:53:45,839
Speaker 2: people to be the ultimate advantage in the history of football.

2252
01:53:46,200 --> 01:53:50,360
Speaker 2: And meanwhile Michigan has this elaborate sign stealing scandal, and

2253
01:53:50,479 --> 01:53:52,640
Speaker 2: for the most part, it's like, eh, you know, what

2254
01:53:52,760 --> 01:53:55,559
Speaker 2: are you gonna do? It's amazing Like if Michigan had

2255
01:53:55,680 --> 01:53:59,760
Speaker 2: rattled off six titles in a span like the Patriots,

2256
01:54:00,240 --> 01:54:03,400
Speaker 2: oh people would be going freaking crazy. But they have

2257
01:54:03,520 --> 01:54:07,000
Speaker 2: one title, so it mostly is you know, like barely

2258
01:54:07,120 --> 01:54:08,560
Speaker 2: one raised eyebrow and that's it.

2259
01:54:09,160 --> 01:54:11,960
Speaker 1: Here's the part that really rubs me the wrong way.

2260
01:54:12,120 --> 01:54:16,360
Speaker 1: There were other programs complicit in this, like they admitted.

2261
01:54:16,479 --> 01:54:19,600
Speaker 1: The NCAA admitted in this release of the investigation that

2262
01:54:19,720 --> 01:54:22,680
Speaker 1: Stallions was on the Central Michigan sideline. That's right. That

2263
01:54:22,880 --> 01:54:26,000
Speaker 1: means Central Michigan was complicit in this. Who gave him

2264
01:54:26,040 --> 01:54:28,439
Speaker 1: the pass? What do he just show up? Who gave

2265
01:54:28,479 --> 01:54:31,560
Speaker 1: him the CMU gear? Like it just I feel like

2266
01:54:31,680 --> 01:54:36,080
Speaker 1: there is a deeper web here that really got untouched

2267
01:54:36,360 --> 01:54:37,560
Speaker 1: by this slap on the wrist.

2268
01:54:38,080 --> 01:54:41,440
Speaker 2: Right, And they were like, you know, uh, Connor Stallion's

2269
01:54:41,480 --> 01:54:44,720
Speaker 2: basically threw his phone in a pond, like you're not

2270
01:54:44,760 --> 01:54:47,160
Speaker 2: gonna get any of this, you know, footage of me

2271
01:54:47,440 --> 01:54:50,400
Speaker 2: at these games. I shouldn't have been at getting these signs.

2272
01:54:50,440 --> 01:54:53,120
Speaker 2: I shouldn't have been recording and and they're just like

2273
01:54:54,400 --> 01:54:55,400
Speaker 2: I guess there's no proof.

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01:54:55,480 --> 01:54:55,600
Speaker 6: Huh.

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01:54:56,160 --> 01:55:00,360
Speaker 2: It's like what how it whatever? Crazy? But you're right,

2276
01:55:00,560 --> 01:55:02,640
Speaker 2: you said it best took two years to get to this,

2277
01:55:03,440 --> 01:55:07,400
Speaker 2: two years for this crazy. I've got Jared Smith FSR

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Speaker 4: Rapid fire.

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01:56:57,000 --> 01:56:58,520
Speaker 2: We start with you, what's something you like?

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01:56:59,040 --> 01:57:01,760
Speaker 1: So can I just stay for the record forty five

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01:57:02,000 --> 01:57:05,520
Speaker 1: thirty and three since football season for these rapid fire

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Speaker 1: picks that I mean, I do not expect that during

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Speaker 1: football season. That is great. It's like a sixty percent win.

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01:57:10,720 --> 01:57:13,400
Speaker 2: Right. You are the opposite of small game, James.

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01:57:13,680 --> 01:57:16,320
Speaker 1: Yes, it has been a really good off season for me.

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01:57:17,200 --> 01:57:19,680
Speaker 1: I think we're gonna start the football contest not week

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01:57:19,800 --> 01:57:20,560
Speaker 1: zero right, week one?

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01:57:20,800 --> 01:57:20,920
Speaker 2: Right?

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01:57:21,000 --> 01:57:22,240
Speaker 1: Is that what we've been doing in years past?

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01:57:22,280 --> 01:57:25,360
Speaker 2: Brian, I'm lined with me because week zero sucks.

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01:57:25,440 --> 01:57:27,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, Week zero suck yeah. So we have two more

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Speaker 1: weeks of quote unquote off season plays and then we'll

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Speaker 1: start our new football contest Week one. I'll have some

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Speaker 1: preseason plays for you right now. Jets plus three and

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Speaker 1: a half against the Giants. This line is move six

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Speaker 1: points from the open. The Jets work two and a

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Speaker 1: half point favorite. Now they're plus three and a half. Typically,

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Speaker 1: if you fade the steam in the preseason, you do

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Speaker 1: pretty good nine and one against the spread if you

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Speaker 1: fade the six point or bigger moves in the preseason

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Speaker 1: over the last three year. So we're gonna do that today.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be a close game. Nip it talk. Hopefully

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Speaker 1: it's a field goal finish. Jets plus three and a

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Speaker 1: half over the Giant and the overs have been all

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Speaker 1: the ray Man this preseason. I'm not betting any overs today,

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Speaker 1: but if these numbers continue to climb, I think you're

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Speaker 1: gonna be on the right side of some line movements

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Speaker 1: for Sunday and Monday, which is when these two games

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Speaker 1: are gonna get played. Bill's Bears over forty one and

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Speaker 1: a half. You get Kayleb Williams, Tyson Bage, and Case

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Speaker 1: Keenan's been pretty good in the preseason and not bad

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Speaker 1: in the regular season. Two sometimes against Josh Allen, Mitchell Trubisky,

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Speaker 1: Mike White. That feels like an over to me. And

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Speaker 1: Bengals commanders over forty two and a half. This is

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Speaker 1: more of a defense Fain. Commanders gave up five and

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Speaker 1: a half yards per play to the Pats and Ben

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Speaker 1: Woolridge Josh Jobbs. Little Bengals gave up almost six yards

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Speaker 1: per play to Tanner McKee, dtr and the Eagles. Points

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Speaker 1: points points commanders, Bengals over forty.

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Speaker 2: Two and a half. Okay, all right, So I got

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Speaker 2: a tweet here from David and it says, okay, Brian

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Speaker 2: Ton of games today in NFL, don't give some lame

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Speaker 2: WNBA plays in rapid fire.

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Speaker 1: So you know what I have to do? Three WNBA plays.

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Speaker 2: I can't give you three, but I'm leading off with

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Speaker 2: WNBA play just based on principle here, right, I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: go with Emma Mesiman. Give me under fifteen and a

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Speaker 2: half points. She's played well. She's been an asset for

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Speaker 2: the New York Liberty. They're at the Minnesota Links today

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Speaker 2: and a lot of ways to get home.

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Speaker 6: Right.

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Speaker 2: Our teammates John Quell Jones, Sabrina Yinescu, a lot of

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Speaker 2: players that can put up points. So I'm gonna fade Emma,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go under fifteen and a half. That's a

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Speaker 2: pretty high points total, so I'll take under.

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Speaker 1: There.

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Speaker 2: You're right, Jared, The overs have been the rage in

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Speaker 2: NFL preseason. I'm gonna go with this Patriots Vikings game

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Speaker 2: over thirty eight points. The Patriots got smacked around in

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Speaker 2: joint practice by Minnesota something fierce, and so I think

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Speaker 2: that helps them when the game rolls around, right, there's

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Speaker 2: a pride factor. Mike Frabel is gonna be all over them,

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Speaker 2: So I expect the offense to look better against Minnesota

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Speaker 2: fast track. Just give me the over if it's under forty.

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm looking for the over based on how

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Speaker 2: things have gone here, and I'll throw in one more baseball.

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Speaker 2: I love my Brian on the mound today for the Mariners.

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Speaker 2: Give me the first five Mariners money line. Give me

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Speaker 2: minus one minus a dollars forty. I think the Mariners

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Speaker 2: take care of business in the first five.

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Speaker 1: There you go.

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Speaker 2: Maybe I should have done three WNBA places.

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Speaker 1: What do you think?

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Speaker 2: Good stuff? Have a good day,