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Speaker 1: way to me and Charleston White sit down to address that.

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Speaker 2: In full. But the fact that.

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Speaker 1: I think it captured a very interesting time and not

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Speaker 1: And when I say space I was in, what you're

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Speaker 1: looking at is a man that in that position right there,

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Speaker 1: Dig I hadn't. I hadn't invested, And so when I

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Speaker 1: And so we would speak towards those things. I would speak.

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Speaker 1: This was well before any of us had ran into

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Speaker 1: put all kinds of game in this right here, all

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Speaker 1: kind of game in this podcast. Right I might sit

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Speaker 1: You dig what I'm saying, A need in need of

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Speaker 1: this Charleston White interview. It's up the podcast, early in

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Speaker 4: Welcome to another episode.

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Speaker 1: If it's up there podcast with your active anti tract

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Speaker 4: How is it, my brother?

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Speaker 2: What's going on with It's going well? Black man? How

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Speaker 1: I'm just kicking up dus man. I ain't letting no

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Speaker 2: What's up with you say? Man?

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Speaker 3: Just sitting back looking at it, and what I mean

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Speaker 3: by looking at it, Man sitting back looking at life

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Speaker 3: So every day I wake up to examine our conditions,

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Speaker 3: So it tends to seem like man he always talking

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Speaker 1: And you know, some of what I know is man,

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Speaker 2: Rapping with our customer. We lost some you know, try

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Speaker 2: And I was very I was very I was very groomed.

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Speaker 2: I knew I could educate them.

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Speaker 3: So he looked me in my eyes and said, I

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Speaker 3: here telling me no mother fly And he gave me

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Speaker 2: Now this club, say Homi, he got gangsters down there.

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Speaker 3: They got killers down there, dope dealers, he got every prostitute.

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Speaker 3: It's an ass divers body, it's a gambling they boot leg. Say,

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna bring kids down here, and with all these

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Speaker 2: I'm I'm all.

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Speaker 3: The pastors protege a from Beyonce, pastors from Fifth Ward

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Speaker 2: The black pastors protege. Keep in mind, I don't cuss.

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Speaker 3: I smoke weeding. I smoke weed in private. Don't nobody

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Speaker 3: So I'm everybody's I'm everybody's baby when I go, when

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Speaker 4: The golden child, Jay.

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Speaker 2: I'm the golden child.

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Speaker 3: Right, hold on this the old name we see if

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Speaker 5: Every time you tell me about mancoing, some want it.

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Speaker 5: I'll take it and run with right. Yes up, okay,

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Speaker 5: you told me, but to Steward wanted for all in jail.

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Speaker 5: I need that information.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna see you the lean now. Now here's the thing.

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Speaker 5: How do we start following them and HIPing him get

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Speaker 5: take wanted that thing? Don't know how to do because

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Speaker 2: And want you I got you. I sent it to

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Speaker 5: All right, thank you for your man.

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Speaker 2: Guess up if I was six stream you two all right.

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Speaker 1: And I want I want to get it. I want

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Speaker 1: This is real time. This ain't playing that show you

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Speaker 4: Man, this is real time.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 4: We didn't play in that.

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Speaker 3: So yeah that hey, that that's ironic that we were

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Speaker 1: He called exactly exactly. That's what I was just telling

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Speaker 4: It's real time.

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Speaker 3: Hey, listen, Hey, he have a fit if he knew.

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Speaker 2: Uh I had him, you know after to the world

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Speaker 3: Uh and he'll Texas he had he owned clubs way

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Speaker 3: And and and and still to this day he hold

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Speaker 4: You ain't respect on me?

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Speaker 3: Only so everybody called him Pops. Right, So when I

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Speaker 2: So if anybody it's a historical clue of on me.

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Speaker 3: I'm I'm, I'm working with the pastors at this time, right,

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Speaker 2: Goes on down there.

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Speaker 3: But what goes on down there is these same children's

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Speaker 2: So they mamas and daddy's come.

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Speaker 3: Down there and fighting and get drunk and partying, and

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Speaker 3: So we end up working with both the mothers and

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Speaker 4: Cousins right right in the same spot.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, in that same spot.

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Speaker 3: So, so I'm doing work with the juvenile system.

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Speaker 2: I was doing work with the school system.

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Speaker 3: I was teaching, uh, I was teaching classes at JD.

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Speaker 2: So I'm going back and forward.

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Speaker 3: Then I went inside the juvenile prison, the juvenile Detention centers.

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Speaker 3: So I'm working inside there and I'm teaching a class.

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Speaker 2: I'm teaching a class at the parole office every Tuesday and.

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Speaker 3: So home, I'm i'm, I'm, I'm, i'm, i'm, I'm.

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Speaker 4: I'm out there doing the work. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So the old they give me the club. The police department,

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Speaker 3: we'll help get you some grant money, uh you know,

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Speaker 3: to keep the building going. Because don't nobody want me

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Speaker 3: My preacher buddies come to me and they tell me, oh, man,

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Speaker 2: To get the get the kids from down there, and

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Speaker 3: So I think about it for a while, and and

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Speaker 2: Right. So me being the golden boy not cussing.

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Speaker 3: I don't cussing around kids, but they down there cussing

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Speaker 3: right right.

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Speaker 4: They cussing like a mom or.

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Speaker 2: I don't come from a mother who cuss.

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Speaker 3: So my conviction is telling me, man, children don't belong

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Speaker 3: This where these kids live. I don't live in this environment.

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Speaker 3: But I'm bragging my kids with me. So yeah, one

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Speaker 3: day I go to the pastor. I go tell Pastor

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Speaker 2: To the church.

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Speaker 3: At this time, we had about fifty kids that was

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Speaker 3: Some kids will walk there as early in the morning,

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Speaker 3: go to Pastor Christ and tell Pastor Chris man, yeah,

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Speaker 3: we want to come to the church. He tells me, well,

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Speaker 3: let me go talk to the elders.

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Speaker 2: How long do you have them? So I told him

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Speaker 3: The next day he came back, and matter of fact,

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Speaker 3: The old man Pops told me, man, them creatures ain't

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Speaker 3: We can bring them kids.

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Speaker 2: Over there to the church first thing in the morning.

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Speaker 2: But he go have to charge of fifty dollars an hour,

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Speaker 4: Hour, and then we got to pay.

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Speaker 3: But the old man done gave us this club, this

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Speaker 3: juke joint, this dope house, this whole house, this fighting house. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and everybody says, read for free, and we feed them

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Speaker 3: We got we we put bookshelves on the dance floor.

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Speaker 2: An album, I say, damn. He tell me, well, we're

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Speaker 3: It's hot in the middle of the summer. Now it

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Speaker 3: We stay at the classy lady. The police keep telling me,

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Speaker 3: Man Charleston, go find a building, but man, I don't

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Speaker 4: And hey, listen, I don't think you never need to

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Speaker 1: Because see if they're one of going through his own ship,

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Speaker 4: They're sure true character?

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Speaker 3: Man getting at the time homeie, I got, I got,

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Speaker 3: I smoked weed, but I can't afford to smoke it.

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Speaker 3: But to believe in the work that I'm doing with

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Speaker 3: I need gas money, Give me gas money because they

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Speaker 3: so put it like this, the neighborhood in the streets

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Speaker 2: So check this out. I'm getting people.

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Speaker 3: I'm getting people that's donating cars to my nonprofit organization,

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Speaker 2: I need the car. But guess what I gotta get

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Speaker 2: because that's what you know, you see what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, that's see that sacrifices something different, man, say man,

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Speaker 1: that's sacrifice.

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Speaker 4: That's something different.

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Speaker 3: I'm telling the old I'm telling the old Pops, I say, pops,

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Speaker 3: because and I'm just coming out the streets on me.

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Speaker 3: So I'm really trying to be righteous, right, I'm really

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Speaker 2: And so I know I still got some some residue

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Speaker 6: I know, I still I still I still want to

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Speaker 3: But I understover the cruppers right. So right now I'm

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Speaker 3: So I'm making sacrifices.

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Speaker 7: So I know, I know, man, man, I'm getting paid

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Speaker 7: five hundred dollars for honorarium fees. So but by the

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Speaker 7: I'm bringing it back to help the kids.

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Speaker 2: By the time I get through Heaven the kids.

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Speaker 3: When I get home, my kids will say, Daddy, can

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Speaker 3: we go get ice cream?

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Speaker 2: And I realized, man, all and I got money for

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Speaker 2: it's gas and food, not knowing for ice cream. So

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00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:57,880
Speaker 2: I gotta tell my kids now. So so check game. Right.

444
00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:03,000
Speaker 2: So I'm telling the old man. They offer me.

445
00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:06,280
Speaker 3: All these big contracts, only two hundred and fifty thousand

446
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:10,040
Speaker 3: dollars contracts. And I'm seeing all the mistakes that all

447
00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:12,280
Speaker 3: of our elders, all the people before has.

448
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:15,600
Speaker 2: Made with the nonprofits. I'm seeing the mistakes that they making.

449
00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,159
Speaker 3: I know if I get a two hundred and fifty

450
00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,480
Speaker 3: thousand dollars contract on me, I know I'm gonna.

451
00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:23,720
Speaker 2: Stop the work. I might go back to pimping. I

452
00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:25,919
Speaker 2: might start going into this. You know, I'm gonna go

453
00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:27,000
Speaker 2: buy me some pretty clothes.

454
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,479
Speaker 3: I'm gonna rob me a bad car. I know I'm

455
00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:31,240
Speaker 3: gonna do this. I know I'm gonna gon give me

456
00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:33,560
Speaker 3: a watch with some diamonds in it. If these folk

457
00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:34,880
Speaker 3: give me two hundred and fifty.

458
00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:38,720
Speaker 2: Thousand dollars with their grant money. So I was, I was.

459
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:41,960
Speaker 2: I was honest enough with me to turn money down

460
00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:43,520
Speaker 2: on me. So it started.

461
00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:47,800
Speaker 3: So that's just the grant money, the bribe money come

462
00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:51,800
Speaker 3: to pay all that, the sellout money come broke.

463
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,159
Speaker 2: I was broke and didn't take it.

464
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:57,720
Speaker 4: Man, I will man, that's strong.

465
00:23:57,920 --> 00:23:58,120
Speaker 2: Man.

466
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,280
Speaker 1: If a game never told you that, I need to

467
00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:05,320
Speaker 1: tell you that. Man, that sacrifice right there is what separates.

468
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:10,639
Speaker 1: That's what's separated because of money. Don't move and you

469
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:12,680
Speaker 1: gotta know he walking with purpose.

470
00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:13,879
Speaker 4: You see what I'm saying.

471
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:17,240
Speaker 1: Because the money so attractive, man and money maker to

472
00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:18,359
Speaker 1: go to doing some shit.

473
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,680
Speaker 4: He don't got no being's doing, you know what I'm saying.

474
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:25,800
Speaker 3: So I started learning that most of the community work

475
00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:29,800
Speaker 3: is about money. Most of the churches doors that open

476
00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:34,119
Speaker 3: is about money. Most of the nonprofits isn't black money.

477
00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:38,440
Speaker 3: Most of the after school programs is about money. The

478
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 3: Boys and Girls club is about money. Everything that has

479
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:45,560
Speaker 3: to do with us is about money. So I'm learning this,

480
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:49,480
Speaker 3: but I'm not learning this from the black preachers because

481
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:50,919
Speaker 3: when they pull me to the they.

482
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:51,840
Speaker 2: Want me to be quiet.

483
00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,200
Speaker 3: The white folks were put giving me a seat at

484
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,840
Speaker 3: the table and giving me a microphone to be heard.

485
00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:00,400
Speaker 3: The black people wanted me to be quiet. The white

486
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:02,680
Speaker 3: people started picking me over the pastors.

487
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:04,000
Speaker 2: So it started.

488
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:08,119
Speaker 3: So now I'm not emerging up and coming young records.

489
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 4: So our elder any resentment from the from the pastors.

490
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:16,120
Speaker 2: Oh, they started shunning me on me so that old

491
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:19,400
Speaker 2: Willie Lynch, the old versus are young. So here I come.

492
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,920
Speaker 2: I'm young, I'm I'm I'm small, or.

493
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:27,400
Speaker 3: I got the perfect story of redemption from the juvenile system.

494
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,080
Speaker 2: Or I'm in college at the time as a pre

495
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:30,880
Speaker 2: law student.

496
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:34,320
Speaker 3: So the white people are flocking to me because I'm

497
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:37,359
Speaker 3: the postal child, and I'm articulate, I can articulate this.

498
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:41,760
Speaker 3: And I'm a state baby. I'm raised by the state

499
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:43,760
Speaker 3: juvenile system. I'm a state baby.

500
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 2: I was raised in the state system for.

501
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 4: Fort right, right right. We gotta get into that too.

502
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,920
Speaker 1: We gotta get into that for So let me set

503
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:53,480
Speaker 1: that up for those of you don't know.

504
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:54,200
Speaker 4: I'm gonna pull.

505
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:57,399
Speaker 1: Back some what state you from, and let's kind of

506
00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:59,679
Speaker 1: let's kind of pull it back a little bit and

507
00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:02,719
Speaker 1: get into your younger years and and and come up

508
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:04,160
Speaker 1: a little bit, and we're gonna we got a lot

509
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,119
Speaker 1: to get into. But I want to I want to,

510
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:08,159
Speaker 1: you know, kind of set the foundation because what I

511
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:11,240
Speaker 1: would like to happen with my interviews is if somebody

512
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:14,120
Speaker 1: don't know who you are, whoever this that I interview,

513
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:16,080
Speaker 1: I want them to be able to look at the

514
00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 1: interview and get a snapshot of who this individual is,

515
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, without really having to search

516
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:22,920
Speaker 1: for anything else.

517
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 4: You get a little of this little or they passed

518
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:26,400
Speaker 4: little where they at.

519
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 1: Now, So let us know the state you in, the

520
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:31,479
Speaker 1: city you in, and kind of let's get into your

521
00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 1: childhood a little bit.

522
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:38,160
Speaker 2: All right? Man, Man, I'm in fort Worth, Texas, right

523
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 2: outside of Dallas.

524
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:41,000
Speaker 3: For those of you are not familiar with the Dallas

525
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:45,240
Speaker 3: fort Worth met metropolitan area or fort Worth in Dallas

526
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 3: is two different cities, two different worlds, two different to

527
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:54,919
Speaker 3: two different sets uh or two different sets of black people.

528
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:59,640
Speaker 3: So yeah, man, fort Worth, Texas? Uh uh deep batteries

529
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:01,359
Speaker 3: in fort Worth, Texas?

530
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 4: Oh yes, lord yeah?

531
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 2: Yeah. Now men, I grew up.

532
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,119
Speaker 3: I was born to a teenage mother, right, So I'm

533
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,160
Speaker 3: gonna break this all the way down since we got time.

534
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 2: I ain't eed no resh to go, no where, none

535
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 2: of that.

536
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:20,160
Speaker 3: My mother, my mother had my brother at fifteen, had

537
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:25,120
Speaker 3: me at seventeen. My grandfather and my grandmother were married.

538
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 3: My grandfather went into the Air Force. He come out

539
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,879
Speaker 3: of East Texas. He was the first. He was the

540
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 3: first of his brothers sixteen to come from East Texas, Marshall, Texas,

541
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:42,199
Speaker 3: to Fort Wood, Texas. My grandmother, Lucille Helton, she was

542
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 3: a slave, which is my grandfather, my grandfather's mother.

543
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 2: She was a slave in Marshall, Texas.

544
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 4: Okay, Okay.

545
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:53,200
Speaker 2: The property of the.

546
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 3: Slave owner was the White Sloan Plantation. So that's where

547
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:02,160
Speaker 3: I get my last from, from the White Swan Plantation.

548
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 3: My grandmother name was Lucille Halton, who was a bootlegger,

549
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:09,159
Speaker 3: had sixteen kids.

550
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 2: She don't know who none of them kids is. So

551
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 2: I a gress she so.

552
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 3: So my grandfather migrated off that slave plantation and came

553
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 3: to Fort Worth, Texas.

554
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 2: This Fort Worth, Texas is really a military based town.

555
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 3: So my granddaddy came here and everybody else followed him.

556
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:29,879
Speaker 3: Most of the black people who came here back in

557
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:33,360
Speaker 3: those times set up on the west side of Fort Work,

558
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 3: but that's that's where the military base was. My grandfather

559
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 3: and my grandmother had a hotel in a restaurant over

560
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:43,959
Speaker 3: on the west side. My grandmother's side of the family

561
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 3: was street mother. My granddaddy's side was country boys. They

562
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 3: come to the city got My grandmother was was a squadbrod,

563
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 3: but her sister's name was h They were city slicking,

564
00:28:56,440 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 3: street hipsters, or my grandfather was au used.

565
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 2: To kick my grandmama house.

566
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 6: Grandmama started cheating, got hooked on heron, got hooked on heron.

567
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 2: So my mother and them grew up on the streets.

568
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 3: They had a perfect life up until mom was about

569
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 3: five or six seven years old. My grandfather worked for

570
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 3: Paul Lumber Yo Paul Lumber Company, and built his own house.

571
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 3: One day, ma'am, Mama and them came home from school,

572
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 3: man all that were sitting on the curve. So mother

573
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 3: grew up from house to house, family to family in

574
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 3: the streets as a teenage mother, and.

575
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 2: That was typical back then.

576
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,720
Speaker 3: So she had had my brother at fifteen, had me

577
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 3: at seventeen. But she was a woman of good morals

578
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 3: or a dignified a woman of integrity and she had ambition.

579
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 2: We started out in the projects. I was born in

580
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 2: prins Hall apartments. We grew up and stopped six projects

581
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 2: and all of that.

582
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 3: Man, my dad is from the South Side, the neighborhood

583
00:29:56,320 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 3: or Prominent area. My dad retired from the Navy, worked

584
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 3: for the federal government. Uh. My mother wheeled herself out

585
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:07,720
Speaker 3: of impoverished conditions laying the job at General motors Man

586
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 3: in the early eighties.

587
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 2: And I can and I can.

588
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 3: Literally recall, uh well, I don't never recall being poor.

589
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 3: I can't ever recall being hungry, but.

590
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 2: I can recall, uh, the difference in the environments or.

591
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 3: Because we went from yeah, yeah, we went from living

592
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 3: uh and which back then men living in Meadowbrook, Uh,

593
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 3: you know, living in the houses part of the Stop

594
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 3: six area. Uh uh We we never really lived in

595
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 3: the partners and so h. But when we moved to

596
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 3: uh Man, we moved to Pantego Arlington, uh in the

597
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 3: mid eighties. And that was kind of like unheard of,

598
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 3: homie or right today, nigga still right today, niggas still

599
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 3: won't go to Penttago.

600
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 6: Or we lived around the corner or I lived around

601
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 6: the corner and walked by Bobby Valentine house.

602
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 2: Every day and he was the manager for the Texas Rangers. Uh.

603
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 8: So I started, so I started going to predominantly white

604
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 8: schools or ever since I was like in the third grade,

605
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 8: and I can remember, uh, there being a significant difference,

606
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 8: uh in the.

607
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 2: In the in the environment.

608
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 3: So what I just described is is is the typical

609
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 3: traditional African American single parent home h. Mothers start out young,

610
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 3: you know, financially struggling, struggling, and because of their determination

611
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 3: and wheel power. Uh, they wait, they worked themselves up

612
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 3: to your your your your your middle class to your

613
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:42,240
Speaker 3: upper middle class social economic status.

614
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 2: So uh, mom made it out of poverty. Right, so we.

615
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 3: Broke we broke the poverty curse. H. I've never been

616
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 3: stanked by man. I've never been disciplined by man. I

617
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 3: ain't never seen a man come.

618
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 2: Out my mother's bedroom. But she had boyfriends.

619
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 3: My mother made sure, my mother made sure man that

620
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 3: we didn't get the exposure of a man.

621
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 2: Uh.

622
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 1: And and sometimes that's all they take the center young

623
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 1: boy down the wrong path to Now.

624
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, that's that's.

625
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 2: That's that's probably the greatest thing of mother.

626
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 4: Uh.

627
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 2: No, I can't say that, but let me just say this.

628
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 3: I thank god my mother gave us no man, you

629
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 3: see what I'm saying, rather than happening in that household,

630
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 3: And I'm forced to pick up his ways and his

631
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 3: traits and his characteristics because I'm around him and I'm

632
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 3: a little boy, and I can't get the identity but

633
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 3: from nobody but him, and he's the closest soldier. That's

634
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 3: what your uncles do, all the men and your mother

635
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 3: exposed you to. They deposit traits and characteristics on the boy.

636
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 2: So I'm glad.

637
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 3: I'm glad mama didn't let us see whenever she needed

638
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 3: some I don't know if it climbed out the window.

639
00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 2: The wind never swarm.

640
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 1: Right because the girl that day, they fall victim to

641
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 1: their emotions and they get hot.

642
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 4: They don't have anybody around them. Kids, you know what

643
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 4: I'm saying.

644
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 2: Say, boy, listen, when that sit get wet and that

645
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 2: get hold men them.

646
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 1: Kids, men everything for man's for the next thirty Men.

647
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 3: Say y'all get up, Say don't come over here balling

648
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 3: us while we but we ain't telling the kids. We

649
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 3: make up all this right and the wood.

650
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 2: And go to sleep. God damn it. So we man.

651
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 4: I'm telling my man, Hey, at a young nigga as.

652
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 1: A as a young nigga when I was coming up

653
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 1: in the street and I was young, might have had

654
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 1: three four kids. I had one wanted so bad from it,

655
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 1: just kind of moving and shaking. She'll she would give

656
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 1: her kids a little sleepy medicine.

657
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 2: Man.

658
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 4: And now that I look back.

659
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 2: On that, that's money in them. Shit. Men ain't been

660
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 2: drugging the babies. They been. They used to get the babies.

661
00:33:58,640 --> 00:33:59,959
Speaker 2: Girl look up.

662
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 3: I don't kind of but they listen, man, when they

663
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 3: come to dickon pussy, it's God sometimes.

664
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 2: God some minutes.

665
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, say man, man.

666
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 2: This works, so listen, chake this down. Oh say man,

667
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 2: and this not I don't get back on topic.

668
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 3: But men, them with the baby in the bed, she

669
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 3: pad putn't the baby to sleep, the baby head up and.

670
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:34,279
Speaker 2: The baby rocking. Man, say what down to thirty when

671
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 2: they come to man down save the load out. You

672
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 2: know them kids in that room and be having that board,

673
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 2: their heads rocking.

674
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 4: Know the care Yeah, I know they saying what is that?

675
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:54,400
Speaker 4: You know what that is? They getting down? That's up.

676
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,840
Speaker 3: But that's exactly the truth to say, man, we go

677
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 3: bring it to you just like that. The way it is.

678
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 3: So that's the way it is. So back to what

679
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:04,800
Speaker 3: I was. So Mama never let her see that, homie.

680
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,839
Speaker 3: Oh and I and I think and I thank her

681
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 3: for it. But it was a consequence to that. It

682
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 3: was a consequence to her not allowing us to see

683
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 3: these men. So I grew up looking and watching, right,

684
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 3: And what I mean by looking and watching because children

685
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:30,360
Speaker 3: mimic what they see and repeat what they hear. So

686
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 3: whatever man I saw, whether it was on television, on

687
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 3: the radio, my ears and my eyes tuned in to

688
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 3: watch him, whatever man, any man at the store, because

689
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 3: I don't I'm around man, I don't. So I'm looking

690
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:51,759
Speaker 3: to identified with what looks like me, Mama at work,

691
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 3: Mama at work. So I rarely see mama because when

692
00:35:55,440 --> 00:36:00,040
Speaker 3: I'm getting out of school and I'm going to work, sure.

693
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:02,799
Speaker 4: And that's to keep the lifestyle where it said. So

694
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 4: it's a giving tape man.

695
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 2: No parental supervision, that's what that is. No parental supervision.

696
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,880
Speaker 3: So when I turned so I get to watch what

697
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:14,880
Speaker 3: I want to watch. Ain't no growing up there to

698
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 3: stop me. And we got cable say, man, way back,

699
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 3: way back, as I'm watching television, I'm seeing Bill Cosby.

700
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm seeing Red Fox. Oh, I'm seeing all kind

701
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:32,319
Speaker 2: of men.

702
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 3: But then when I walk out, okay side, I see

703
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 3: my uncle who just came home from the penitent try.

704
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:50,360
Speaker 2: He looked like some of them dudes I see on TV.

705
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.

706
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 3: You want to spend less time watching TV and more

707
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 3: time over there and around.

708
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 2: Up. And he got some brothers, and he got some

709
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 2: brother that's in the streets.

710
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 3: And he got a damn and they drank burrow over

711
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 3: there and we can see talking. Yeah yeah. So when

712
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:20,719
Speaker 3: mama go to work, I'm going where it's at. So

713
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:24,720
Speaker 3: when I leave there, and we had a family reunions,

714
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:28,320
Speaker 3: here come unc Hawayne, Uncawayne jumping.

715
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 2: Out of roy Royds. He'll pimp he got some yellow

716
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:33,319
Speaker 2: bad them perky tin.

717
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, everybody Wayne, Uncle Wayne soue clean in the mother

718
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 6: and he got a briefcase.

719
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 2: Say they say, Unclewayne, keep money in their bree case.

720
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 6: So when when Unclewayne come, we all line up asking

721
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:49,280
Speaker 6: for a dollar.

722
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:50,839
Speaker 2: So when I see the.

723
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 3: Movie Mac, so what I'm trying to show people by

724
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 3: breaking this down, this is reinforced on me, the negatives,

725
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 3: the pimps. So I don't have no doctor to look at.

726
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 2: I don't have.

727
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 3: No no school principle to look at. I don't have

728
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 3: no man getting up, going to work, putting on, no working.

729
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 3: I don't have no James Evans at home home. James

730
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:17,799
Speaker 3: Evans ain't in my household. Cliff Hustable ain't in my household.

731
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 3: He who control NOI say, Homie, concusion said, he that

732
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 3: controls images.

733
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 2: Controls minds, control the mind.

734
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 3: So the image that I got, Homie is gangsters, pimps,

735
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 3: drug dealers, because that whoopers, because that a woop, the brothers.

736
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:41,880
Speaker 2: And the daddy.

737
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 3: So that's what will spotted be. It's not that we

738
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 3: don't want to whoop a woman. When you whooped the

739
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:50,799
Speaker 3: you got your bed to whoop up brothers and everybody.

740
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 3: So yeah, y'all whoop killing your brothers them too.

741
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 1: Yes, that's who you wann the car men, that's them,

742
00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:00,080
Speaker 1: the type of saw every man.

743
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:01,720
Speaker 2: Women.

744
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 3: So in my mind, we whoop women. Mama, I hear

745
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 3: what you saying. Mama said, don't hit no girl. Man,

746
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,240
Speaker 3: I ain't no girl. I'm watching these men hit women.

747
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:15,399
Speaker 3: And it was okay for me to woo women that did.

748
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 3: So what I'm saying is homie. When I put on

749
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 3: my headphones as a kid, I want a father. I

750
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 3: can't play football, men, I can't play football after school.

751
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 2: Man, Mama say get home.

752
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 3: She gotta go to work, and we gotta be in

753
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 3: this house exactly my.

754
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 2: Older brother that already in and out. The boys home.

755
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:38,799
Speaker 3: So I'm at home by myself, no pernal supervision.

756
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 2: So I'm watching all the rap video. I'm listening to

757
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:42,839
Speaker 2: the ship.

758
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 6: When I come out in my community, I see when

759
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:49,240
Speaker 6: when theers come home from.

760
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 2: Prison, they have the big elaborate prison parties. When the

761
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 2: people graduate from high school, when.

762
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 6: They graduate from high school, and the party be bucking

763
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 6: the mama, all the all the somebody.

764
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 1: And you know something too, man, at that tender young age,

765
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:12,439
Speaker 1: you you can confuse motion for progress. So just because

766
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:15,399
Speaker 1: you see a bunch of more celebrating, and you see

767
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:18,280
Speaker 1: you don't really understand that they celebrating nothing.

768
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:21,759
Speaker 4: They boys, but it looked like they live in a

769
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 4: certain type of way, and they moving, And I want

770
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 4: to be moving. You know what I'm saying. I want

771
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:26,799
Speaker 4: to be doing.

772
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:31,320
Speaker 2: The young mind. The young mind is impressionable.

773
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 3: That's why kids believe anything, if the young mind is impressionable.

774
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 3: So if I'm seeing it on TV, right, the in

775
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 3: the streets with the gold chains in the movie paid

776
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 3: in for that's how the streets look, right, Yeah, So

777
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:56,759
Speaker 3: when you see it on television, then you see it

778
00:40:56,800 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 3: in the streets, you're hearing all the music. It's oroplagated

779
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 3: to its propagated to a kid, homie, it's like propaganda, right,

780
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 3: so right, right, So when the when Easy Eating Them

781
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:13,800
Speaker 3: Fred dropped that mother, When Easy Frered dropped that mother tape,

782
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 3: Easy does it?

783
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:16,879
Speaker 2: Eleven twelve years old?

784
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:22,760
Speaker 3: Homie listening to that, so nigga, they talking about fitting

785
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 3: there and when they went to one.

786
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 2: Of the places and robbed and then they took the

787
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 2: girl to the.

788
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 3: Back of the So as a kid, we stopping the

789
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 3: tape and right down with this young and impressionable mind.

790
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 4: So you got yeah, and putting them words on paper

791
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:42,280
Speaker 4: and everything.

792
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 3: Come on, homie, So you got the young So you

793
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 3: listening to these lyrics with no parental supervision, you ain't

794
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 3: got nobody saying, boy, let me listen to that and.

795
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 2: Hear what you listening to saying. That's stupid, that dumb ass.

796
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:58,240
Speaker 2: You ain't got nobody, so there's no filter.

797
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 3: So all you got is the this young, impressionable brain

798
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:05,840
Speaker 3: that's undeveloped, so it don't have a logic and it

799
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:06,319
Speaker 3: don't have.

800
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 2: A reasoning department.

801
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:13,800
Speaker 3: So everything you money, everything that a child sees, it believes,

802
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 3: everything that a child hears, it believes because it don't

803
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,760
Speaker 3: have the logic and the reasoning to process the data.

804
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 3: So with that, you got this undeveloped mind that's impressed

805
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:25,800
Speaker 3: by anything.

806
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 2: So you got these infolls on and.

807
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 3: In situation where you get to freely listen to whatever

808
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:41,279
Speaker 3: the fuck you want to listen to, and you get to.

809
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:44,799
Speaker 2: Do this days in and days out, on top of

810
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 2: the fact that you have childhood trauma.

811
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 3: You may be being abused, you may be neglected, you're

812
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:58,880
Speaker 3: feeling unloved, you're feeling rejected, you you're becoming angry. So

813
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:01,760
Speaker 3: you got all of this on top of these lyrics

814
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 3: that you're trying to process that you believe these people

815
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 3: are actually doing and getting away with and singing about it,

816
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:10,399
Speaker 3: and they are.

817
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 2: They've reached start them with this.

818
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:18,280
Speaker 3: So in your young mind, you think, when ice Cube

819
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 3: say what he say, he really doing this. So when

820
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:24,759
Speaker 3: you're walking down the street with your friends and you

821
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:27,759
Speaker 3: get mad and you're the leader of it, you want

822
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:30,400
Speaker 3: to do what he said, Man, what would ice Cube

823
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 3: do right now?

824
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 4: Exactly exactly.

825
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 3: So that's where the delinquent behavior come from, because you're

826
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:39,800
Speaker 3: not really exposed to delinquency.

827
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:42,880
Speaker 2: So you got.

828
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:49,439
Speaker 3: So the music becomes the fuel to the situation, the conditions,

829
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:50,840
Speaker 3: and the circumstance.

830
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:54,280
Speaker 2: It's not it's not the problem. It's the fuel.

831
00:43:55,960 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 3: So if I'm angry and I'm listening to the type

832
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 3: of music that a fuel.

833
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 2: Of my anger, say it's home.

834
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 3: If I'm sad. If I'm sad and i'm in love

835
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 3: with a heartbreak and I'm listening to the type of

836
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 3: music that a fuel of my sadness, then I cry.

837
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 2: I'm sad. I can't stop thinking about it if I

838
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:20,439
Speaker 2: listen to her. You see what I'm saying. So it's

839
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 2: the fuel to the.

840
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:27,320
Speaker 3: Conditions, the circumstances and the situations. So as a kid,

841
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 3: you got this fuel all to yourself, and nobody's addressing

842
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:39,319
Speaker 3: the situation, the circumstances, and your conditions. When I get

843
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 3: my weight up with my hate, I pay them back.

844
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:43,440
Speaker 3: When I'm bigger. I heard that as a kid.

845
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 2: Wait to get.

846
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:52,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's deep, that's wait, that's plotting revenge.

847
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:55,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can wait to get.

848
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 3: So I'm not only listening to it on me. I'm

849
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 3: meditating on the these words and lyrics. I'm not talking

850
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 3: to my mama. I'm not talking to my car.

851
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:06,239
Speaker 2: I see.

852
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:11,959
Speaker 6: So I'm flying under the red or right. So I'm

853
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:14,800
Speaker 6: looking like I'm a good child. So I'm being compared

854
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:17,399
Speaker 6: to my brother. Then don't be like your brother. Then

855
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 6: I'm bursting at.

856
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:27,879
Speaker 2: And then not only that, I grew up. I fell

857
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:29,959
Speaker 2: in the washing machine when I was five years old.

858
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 6: My MoMA was sleep, I snuck outside. I snuck outside. Man,

859
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:38,439
Speaker 6: Me and my cousin was playing down at the larger Matt.

860
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 6: I was jumping up and down all I was.

861
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 9: Jumping up and down on the on the on the

862
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:45,880
Speaker 9: Washington and fell in or while the washing machine was

863
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 9: on skin ah and buke everything from my waist down.

864
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 9: So I was in the body cast. So I had

865
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:55,799
Speaker 9: to learn how to walk again. So five years I

866
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 9: was in a full body cast at five years old.

867
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 9: So one day, Man, we were on Griggs in east

868
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:02,239
Speaker 9: Wood and.

869
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 3: Everybody was outside playing and and and and all the

870
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 3: kids that came in to see me.

871
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 2: You know, I was laying in bed, couldn't get up, and.

872
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 10: Then they're outside.

873
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:13,279
Speaker 2: My mother was out, and then it sounded like they

874
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 2: were having fun, homie.

875
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:18,399
Speaker 9: And there I looked down at my legs at five

876
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 9: years old, the full body cast, and I said, legs,

877
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:22,239
Speaker 9: you go rot.

878
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:28,839
Speaker 2: And I kept saying Mama, mama. And then one day

879
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:29,920
Speaker 2: that I read another home.

880
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 11: It was just after that, and you can hear them man,

881
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 11: like everybody man say on me.

882
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 2: I rose up and that body cast and I was

883
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:40,400
Speaker 2: walking and a body.

884
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:41,320
Speaker 10: Cast and five year.

885
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 2: Other things from my thing. I'm booken. So the people

886
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:49,920
Speaker 2: that know that all that I said, they thought, oh,

887
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:51,240
Speaker 2: he was a medical child, homie.

888
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 12: So I've always been everybody favorite, right family unions when

889
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 12: God full get together.

890
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:58,799
Speaker 2: If hey where that choice to blue at y'all, don't

891
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:00,880
Speaker 2: get that chanice to blue, and I could do the

892
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:02,279
Speaker 2: action real good.

893
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 9: So and so I followed the washing machine home at

894
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 9: five at seven, playing with a homemade sling shout.

895
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 2: I put my eye out right, you know, take the

896
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 2: pintrol in the rubber band and shoot the rubber band.

897
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:20,279
Speaker 12: I turned up the band back far didn't go, and

898
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 12: I was shooting up at the light, and that mother pistol.

899
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 2: Shrink back and hit me and I and so that's

900
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 2: how I lost my eye.

901
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 9: So I used to do the Michael Jackson so good

902
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:33,319
Speaker 9: and homie, they were gonna put me on the uh

903
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 9: their show, putting on the hits.

904
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 10: And a lot of people might not remember that they

905
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 10: gonna be too young.

906
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 9: And during that time, Michael Jackson, Michael Jackson used to

907
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 9: go all around the country and and when he go

908
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 9: to city is one thing he used to do. He

909
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 9: would come to the hospitals, uh and see the children

910
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 9: rall man, I was running them.

911
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:53,719
Speaker 10: I was one of those kids, uh, Mike man, I

912
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:55,759
Speaker 10: was one of those kids on me. Uh when I

913
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 10: was sleep, I had just cut out of surgery.

914
00:47:58,719 --> 00:47:58,879
Speaker 13: Uh.

915
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 2: So I was.

916
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 10: I was a little kid that could do the Michael

917
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 10: Jackson good. The mother me so uh so I always

918
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:06,240
Speaker 10: got attention.

919
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:09,239
Speaker 2: So I brought so this thing.

920
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:10,279
Speaker 10: From five to seven.

921
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 9: I had nine eye surgers up until the sixth grade.

922
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 9: Before I got my eyeput out. I had a private

923
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 9: tutor from like I had a private I had a

924
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 9: white teacher that came to.

925
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:19,919
Speaker 2: My house from right.

926
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:26,759
Speaker 11: Third now with kindergarten, first grade, second grade, so I vaguely.

927
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:29,839
Speaker 2: Remember going to school. So I'm an institution kid.

928
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:35,479
Speaker 6: Me when my when my mother, when my mother would

929
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:37,439
Speaker 6: have to leave and go home and be with my brother,

930
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:40,759
Speaker 6: I lived in a hospital.

931
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 2: Who do you think would come in the room with

932
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 2: me and be my comforter White nurses.

933
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:49,719
Speaker 4: N yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

934
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 2: I could never be grateful.

935
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:55,840
Speaker 9: And when my mother would leave me as a child,

936
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 9: the white women would come in there and comfort me.

937
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 9: And doctor I had nine eye surgery rush.

938
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 4: There's a lot of time in there. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,

939
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 4: yeah yeah yeah yeah.

940
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 10: I never yeah got to school.

941
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 12: I never really got to go to school because I'm

942
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 12: always I always in the hospital.

943
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:16,359
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah yeah.

944
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 2: So then there were other kids in the hospital. Men,

945
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:22,920
Speaker 2: I'll say white kids would.

946
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 6: Be my roommates when we'll be playing in the halls.

947
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 6: We lived in the hospital.

948
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 2: Because we were you know. So when I did start going.

949
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:33,279
Speaker 6: To school, I'm the kid they introduced I might have

950
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:37,880
Speaker 6: a patch on my eye, so all my eyes blue, but.

951
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 2: I'm well addressed. I got all there. I've always been

952
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 2: some kind of attention. I've always had said right, right, right,

953
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 2: I said yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I draw attention. Yeah yeah, yeah, naturally.

954
00:49:56,239 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 2: So as a kid, I noticed it's like like like

955
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 2: a golden spotlight. God man.

956
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 9: Why So when I reached adolescent, homie, I've been around

957
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:09,320
Speaker 9: gold folks.

958
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 2: So I got to see Uncle Wayne, I got to

959
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:16,800
Speaker 2: see everything and all I've been doing, mimicking and repeating it.

960
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:19,439
Speaker 12: I was the kid who couldn't go outside the place,

961
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:21,160
Speaker 12: so I had to stand ature with the brown folk

962
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 12: because they say I'm too bad.

963
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:23,719
Speaker 2: I'm hurting myself up.

964
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 4: Yah.

965
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:28,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

966
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:30,240
Speaker 12: So while I'm in the house with the gold folks

967
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 12: and around the brawl folk, guess what I'm doing.

968
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:38,759
Speaker 2: I'm listening. I'm man, I'm around one Grumbo and Uncle

969
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 2: WA's enough. Just what I'm playing attention. So I'm wayne

970
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:49,920
Speaker 2: in it. When i'm soap operas on, I'm sitting in there,

971
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:52,520
Speaker 2: I'm watching them soap opera. I'm listening.

972
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:54,959
Speaker 11: I'm taking everything that grown folks getting.

973
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:56,400
Speaker 2: As a kid, I'm getting.

974
00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:59,800
Speaker 1: Say, when I go around as a kid, I'm gone,

975
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 1: right right right, I'm the band.

976
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:06,279
Speaker 2: So yeah, I didn't know that. Then that's what made

977
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:08,919
Speaker 2: me a leader. Mom Couse, they didn't know Chris Worth.

978
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:11,719
Speaker 3: I knew they couldn't sneak and listen to the music,

979
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:15,800
Speaker 3: and I could listen to I would write down and

980
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 3: act like I.

981
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:20,960
Speaker 9: Made it up, and they that was men have that

982
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 9: exposure to dos.

983
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 2: So you're easy for me to come away and lead.

984
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm the smallest when I'm gone, and all the

985
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:34,239
Speaker 3: things that managing g gone on.

986
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 2: Getting ours y'all should put people. So that's what we

987
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:41,400
Speaker 2: do our children, homie.

988
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:45,320
Speaker 6: So the flip side of that, right, when I'm around

989
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 6: a little better, when Mama take me to her friend's

990
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 6: house and they got some little goods, like guess what

991
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:50,719
Speaker 6: I'm doing.

992
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 4: I'm hurt, gone, Yeah, I'm trying to get on.

993
00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:56,400
Speaker 13: It.

994
00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, I.

995
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:00,360
Speaker 4: Don't seeing it.

996
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 3: I don't heard it.

997
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:03,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna introduce these little girls.

998
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:09,920
Speaker 14: Went I was yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, cousins and all.

999
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:13,440
Speaker 6: Of that, because you don't have the magical processes. All

1000
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 6: I have is the impulse and emotions.

1001
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:20,320
Speaker 12: So right, so when I started getting out of this

1002
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 12: and on me and I got I would run away

1003
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 12: from home.

1004
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 2: And realize, ma'amma just gonna hit me a couple of times,

1005
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:30,319
Speaker 2: it ain't gonna hurt that. Run away from home all

1006
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:30,759
Speaker 2: the time.

1007
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1008
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:36,600
Speaker 12: Then I started hanging with older guys, and amongst older guys,

1009
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:40,799
Speaker 12: I could leave because I had an idea.

1010
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:43,439
Speaker 2: Of a lay yeah, and I could play you good

1011
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 2: yeah and all and and I always to put input

1012
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:48,480
Speaker 2: in it on their.

1013
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:49,879
Speaker 4: Alone, right.

1014
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:51,719
Speaker 2: I think I was fantasized.

1015
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yah, yeah, I strategized this.

1016
00:52:56,640 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 2: I had a listen to me and I'm for the brilliy'

1017
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:02,719
Speaker 2: all away with this. I've had an idle mind from

1018
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:07,359
Speaker 2: the time I was born till I was twelve. Idle mind.

1019
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 10: I didn't say that.

1020
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 14: Yeah yeah, so had my mind from from my from

1021
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:16,440
Speaker 14: my infancy to my adolescents.

1022
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:17,920
Speaker 4: When I'm most impressionable.

1023
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:21,280
Speaker 2: Mm hmm, they thought I was a master.

1024
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:26,239
Speaker 14: Yeah yeah, I snatched I'll snatch your grandmama pill and

1025
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 14: a little.

1026
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:35,560
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah yeah, I ain't then whit girl.

1027
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:37,960
Speaker 3: In a minute, you can see a white girl walking

1028
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:41,720
Speaker 3: down the street at night time, tackle hall and somebody

1029
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:42,600
Speaker 3: front yard.

1030
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:45,879
Speaker 2: Trying to take up to listening to that ship man.

1031
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:49,360
Speaker 2: What you're supposed to do to white people?

1032
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:53,359
Speaker 14: Yeah yeah, listening to listening, sending there, listening to them

1033
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:58,960
Speaker 14: all racing because the all the people have, because we

1034
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:01,160
Speaker 14: gotta we need to make yeh.

1035
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:06,320
Speaker 1: Listening to them old foolish Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, operating

1036
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:07,239
Speaker 1: with no information.

1037
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 4: They don't know much or nothing.

1038
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:11,359
Speaker 2: No mother, well hey, they ain't even got no being

1039
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:16,359
Speaker 2: to talking like this. Look soon rever lose some talking.

1040
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1041
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:21,719
Speaker 2: So you don't say that I take to it.

1042
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:24,879
Speaker 3: All I know is that white people a white girl

1043
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 3: and put tacking and getting drunk when trained on that girl.

1044
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:33,279
Speaker 2: We learned change from listening to our two line two.

1045
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:34,200
Speaker 10: Hey we want some.

1046
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:40,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, nobody can one girl to this right right, So.

1047
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:46,839
Speaker 6: All the information, it's not because someone sitting me down

1048
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:49,680
Speaker 6: directly and teaching me and training me.

1049
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:54,719
Speaker 2: I'm indirectly learnishing from what I hear and what I

1050
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:59,279
Speaker 2: see access to. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Man, when I thought

1051
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:00,360
Speaker 2: that medicai, he's on me.

1052
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:04,200
Speaker 11: At fifteen September eighteen, nineteen ninety.

1053
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:08,680
Speaker 2: One, I had ran away from home. I took them

1054
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 2: on the crime street.

1055
00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:12,680
Speaker 10: We broke into my girlfriend's house.

1056
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:17,040
Speaker 1: Or in the leader again, having the emotion again, being

1057
00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:20,399
Speaker 1: able to plot again, you know, like you say, we're

1058
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:23,080
Speaker 1: in and around them, the older people. You're a little

1059
00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:25,879
Speaker 1: more advanced than the brothers. You see what I'm saying.

1060
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 2: Oh, with the tea.

1061
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 3: Now were the time all I run away from home.

1062
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:35,319
Speaker 3: I got my mama car in Pounty. She went out

1063
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:36,400
Speaker 3: of town to the horse.

1064
00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:39,799
Speaker 6: Race, and my Grandmama at the house or half third

1065
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:44,800
Speaker 6: babysitting still you know, you know, going through her recovering phase.

1066
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:49,480
Speaker 9: Book, still relaxing. So uh men, want no bring in

1067
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:52,839
Speaker 9: that sleep. You can raise the mattress up and get

1068
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:53,719
Speaker 9: the keys from my father.

1069
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:54,480
Speaker 10: We already know.

1070
00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:56,400
Speaker 2: Trying to go to father the mattress.

1071
00:55:56,680 --> 00:55:59,440
Speaker 10: Yeah, I'm gonna steal mama call and go pick up

1072
00:55:59,480 --> 00:55:59,879
Speaker 10: my home.

1073
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:01,919
Speaker 9: All we're gonna get your mother. Little girls, that's gonna

1074
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:03,839
Speaker 9: sneak out. We're gonna go snatch.

1075
00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:06,880
Speaker 2: Curses or do big runs and do all kinds of mama.

1076
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:09,680
Speaker 10: So take it back and morning.

1077
00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:11,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I all done that. One night, man got

1078
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:14,799
Speaker 2: mama car and pounded. Uh Mama came back.

1079
00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:16,919
Speaker 10: And they whooped my mother, and I was still scared

1080
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:18,680
Speaker 10: of Mama. I just didn't give it down about their

1081
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:19,279
Speaker 10: mass whoop.

1082
00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:25,399
Speaker 3: Right, Mama's disappointment or Mama's disappointment many times, Uh man,

1083
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:26,479
Speaker 3: seen can.

1084
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:27,600
Speaker 10: Be worse than ass whooping.

1085
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:28,560
Speaker 3: Just yeah, want any more?

1086
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:30,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1087
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:32,560
Speaker 10: Because you get a liqule enough.

1088
00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:35,359
Speaker 4: Man, you get slick enough to fake like the whooping hurt.

1089
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:38,120
Speaker 2: Oh no that ain't.

1090
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:39,560
Speaker 4: They ain't moving the needle.

1091
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:44,279
Speaker 2: But like you say, weld mama, Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

1092
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:50,280
Speaker 10: And so I ran away from home and got away

1093
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 10: from home. Yeah, I got a car upounded.

1094
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:56,279
Speaker 2: And away from home or my at home, man, my

1095
00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:57,720
Speaker 2: mother could.

1096
00:56:57,600 --> 00:57:02,080
Speaker 10: I would not have imagine without doing this kind of

1097
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:05,399
Speaker 10: son away from home.

1098
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:08,520
Speaker 2: I'm all these characters in my mind. I'm all these

1099
00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:09,239
Speaker 2: characters that.

1100
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:09,960
Speaker 10: I done created.

1101
00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:19,720
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, so I'm all these characters I be based

1102
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:23,120
Speaker 2: on the lyrics. Uh. And and I've created these characters

1103
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:23,720
Speaker 2: in my mind.

1104
00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:26,280
Speaker 3: So that's what I act like away from home then,

1105
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:30,120
Speaker 3: and and and on the surface, uh, you were thinking

1106
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 3: was a cold hearted child? And and there's no such

1107
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:36,040
Speaker 3: thing as a cold hearted child. There's no such thing

1108
00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:40,600
Speaker 3: as a child born bad. No child is born bad. H.

1109
00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:43,280
Speaker 10: So when I run away.

1110
00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:45,680
Speaker 3: From home, and man, I'm I'm I'm I'm doing everything,

1111
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:50,560
Speaker 3: uh you know with my age is setting dope. Uh

1112
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:52,200
Speaker 3: you know that was the thing to do, you know,

1113
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:55,000
Speaker 3: but we were mostly you know, getting the dope, the

1114
00:57:55,080 --> 00:58:01,360
Speaker 3: trick with the dope things, you know. Yeah, you know

1115
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:04,120
Speaker 3: that miss pill you know, bid Paul, give me one

1116
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:06,040
Speaker 3: hundred and twenty five hours with the dime.

1117
00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:11,200
Speaker 6: Shit, I tricked all one hundred thirty with missing because

1118
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:14,280
Speaker 6: she's speaking kid soul.

1119
00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:16,840
Speaker 12: So sitting there wasn't never you know, I couldn't never

1120
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:18,720
Speaker 12: grasp that because I wasn't never poor.

1121
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:24,600
Speaker 9: So crime so for most young children are and mostly

1122
00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:27,680
Speaker 9: kids that's not doing this to eat.

1123
00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:30,280
Speaker 3: It's it's it's the thrill of crime.

1124
00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:35,000
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, homy, that thrill men of of of being

1125
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:35,800
Speaker 2: in something, homy.

1126
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:37,840
Speaker 9: And so that's how it was, man, the rush that

1127
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:40,560
Speaker 9: I got from snatching purses. It wasn't never about no money,

1128
00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:45,120
Speaker 9: all right. So one day man, nigga, you know, uh,

1129
00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 9: we decided to go to what we I decide, Man,

1130
00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:52,600
Speaker 9: let's go to tomorrow. It's still some started jackets.

1131
00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:56,680
Speaker 10: Yeah yeah, man, we're gonna go still some started jackets.

1132
00:58:56,680 --> 00:58:59,640
Speaker 1: Man, we gonna go grasp something, run out, dja are

1133
00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:02,520
Speaker 1: back Andy too, keep up in the anty. First it

1134
00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:05,360
Speaker 1: go from we just found him shore.

1135
00:59:05,240 --> 00:59:08,040
Speaker 2: He found Now I'm in the store and run out

1136
00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:12,280
Speaker 2: with some starter jack we were robbing when we talked

1137
00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:16,200
Speaker 2: about robbing after that. So what I'm saying, so, uh,

1138
00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:20,160
Speaker 2: we'll ever getting the store before we break it to

1139
00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:23,280
Speaker 2: my girlfriend dad's house. We break it to my girlfriend house.

1140
00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:23,520
Speaker 4: Man.

1141
00:59:24,120 --> 00:59:28,200
Speaker 2: Uh, her dad dad was a dollars police officer. Or

1142
00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:29,920
Speaker 2: I lived in a good neighborhood.

1143
00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:30,160
Speaker 3: Man.

1144
00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:33,120
Speaker 2: Uh, her dad was a dollars police officer.

1145
00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:36,880
Speaker 10: Uh, they was a real good Funday we stole We

1146
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:39,080
Speaker 10: stole the vinery proovess, we stole the gun.

1147
00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:40,000
Speaker 3: Uh.

1148
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:44,480
Speaker 10: So after that, uh, we go to my neighbor. We

1149
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:46,960
Speaker 10: go to my older brother Mike.

1150
00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:52,040
Speaker 2: Now Mike pawn everything for us when we leave. Mike.

1151
00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:55,040
Speaker 10: Now, uh, now all this got some money.

1152
00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:55,920
Speaker 2: When we pawn everything.

1153
00:59:56,600 --> 01:00:03,120
Speaker 13: So I say, man, let's go to tomorrow because you

1154
01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:05,680
Speaker 13: know we're going to Teams, which was a little ty

1155
01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:06,680
Speaker 13: club they Friday.

1156
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:09,160
Speaker 10: Uh and this was Thursday.

1157
01:00:10,040 --> 01:00:10,120
Speaker 2: Uh.

1158
01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:14,440
Speaker 10: Many, let's go run out tomorrow with some jackets.

1159
01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:16,439
Speaker 2: So then the other two.

1160
01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:19,360
Speaker 3: Partners they didn't want to do it, and you said, man,

1161
01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:21,200
Speaker 3: drop us out, man, come back and get us later.

1162
01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:23,919
Speaker 2: So I say, man, I love him. I'm so anxious, homie,

1163
01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:25,120
Speaker 2: cause I don't run away from home.

1164
01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:28,240
Speaker 4: So you know, I'm just out trying to get something done. Yeah,

1165
01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:29,920
Speaker 4: out being wowd home.

1166
01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:31,080
Speaker 2: I ain't got it on my mom.

1167
01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:34,160
Speaker 6: I'm stupid, So I say, man, let's go about the

1168
01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:36,720
Speaker 6: narcis house and let's see get the narks to drive

1169
01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:37,000
Speaker 6: the car.

1170
01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:37,960
Speaker 3: Uh.

1171
01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:39,880
Speaker 2: So we went by to the Narca's house and he

1172
01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:41,880
Speaker 2: was cutting my partner toward har with her.

1173
01:00:42,560 --> 01:00:44,480
Speaker 10: So I tell him to spill whatever we're gonna do.

1174
01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:48,560
Speaker 10: Say yeah, come back, let us cut.

1175
01:00:48,440 --> 01:00:50,600
Speaker 2: To warn her, let me finish, come to warn her

1176
01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:51,280
Speaker 2: and come.

1177
01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:53,960
Speaker 10: Back and get her. I don't want to wait, so

1178
01:00:54,080 --> 01:00:56,040
Speaker 10: I leave me. Come on, man, so many they's go

1179
01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:56,720
Speaker 10: back over home.

1180
01:00:56,600 --> 01:00:59,080
Speaker 2: And see I'm torn them. So I go get torn

1181
01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:02,040
Speaker 2: big tall over there. Say, man, come on, y'all, let's

1182
01:01:02,080 --> 01:01:04,640
Speaker 2: go do this. So I come up with the player.

1183
01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:09,320
Speaker 2: Is my idea. We're go going there. Uh bron the

1184
01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:11,479
Speaker 2: jackets in one. So we go to the marrow.

1185
01:01:11,480 --> 01:01:13,320
Speaker 10: It's mid day and we go to the.

1186
01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:17,520
Speaker 2: Mall or play some video games, going foot locker and uh.

1187
01:01:17,720 --> 01:01:21,680
Speaker 10: It was an on ship and he just looked like

1188
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:24,120
Speaker 10: he could run fast. We ain't know he can say that.

1189
01:01:24,520 --> 01:01:25,040
Speaker 2: It looks like.

1190
01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:29,840
Speaker 10: No, man, we ain't gonna do it, or we'll we'll wait.

1191
01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:31,760
Speaker 10: So we gonna play video dams.

1192
01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:34,280
Speaker 2: The game. Uh, it's about an.

1193
01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:36,640
Speaker 10: Hour or two, god damn.

1194
01:01:36,680 --> 01:01:38,840
Speaker 2: And we go back. It's a different ship. Now it's

1195
01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:39,440
Speaker 2: a white.

1196
01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:42,640
Speaker 10: Boy now with the boss there trying on hats, trying

1197
01:01:42,680 --> 01:01:43,320
Speaker 10: on jackets.

1198
01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:49,320
Speaker 2: Te us. We don't think we look suspicious, but it's

1199
01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:54,840
Speaker 2: the middle of the day. We all kids, man. We

1200
01:01:55,560 --> 01:01:58,720
Speaker 2: grabbing jackets costs one hundred dollars like we can. The

1201
01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:02,720
Speaker 2: body is uh yeah man, and we got two three

1202
01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:06,800
Speaker 2: hats said, we already know the player that will do

1203
01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:11,840
Speaker 2: go to the back here one one to break before

1204
01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:13,959
Speaker 2: we supposed to break. So we all got the break.

1205
01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:17,200
Speaker 3: We've got done it or lower the hole the white

1206
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:19,840
Speaker 3: brown do it? He run just as fast as we

1207
01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:20,280
Speaker 3: thought that