WEBVTT - "Rode Hard And Put Away Wet" (w/ Will Ferrell & Harper Steele)

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<v Speaker 1>Hey everybody, it's me Matt Rogers, letting you know. Tickets

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<v Speaker 1>city near you and now lost Coach drums.

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<v Speaker 2>Look mare, Oh, I see you my own look over

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<v Speaker 2>there is that culture?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, goodness, lost ding Dong, lost Cluesa's calling. I just

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<v Speaker 1>whipped out an expression. You love this expression? I do.

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<v Speaker 1>I say it often. I was road hard and put

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<v Speaker 1>away wet, and I kind of used it in this

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<v Speaker 1>way to say like, we're old dogs, We're broken into

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<v Speaker 1>this podcast, right. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, we

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<v Speaker 1>we just we're withered and weathered, withered, weathered, road hard

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<v Speaker 1>and put away wet. A front nunner for title of that.

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<v Speaker 1>I know I'll come up with something better. Did you

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<v Speaker 1>want to ask about my sports pageantry?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? You're wearing now.

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<v Speaker 2>People don't know about this, but Matt Rogers, being the

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<v Speaker 2>Long Island King, he is as a huge fan of

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<v Speaker 2>Prince is a huge fan of the New York Mets.

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<v Speaker 2>Major major So you're wearing a Mets T shirt and

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<v Speaker 2>is that a baseball cap a Mets baseball cat.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm flipping around to reveal it is actually a Pride

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<v Speaker 1>themed Mets cab that I got when I threw out

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<v Speaker 1>the first pitch. I threw out the first pitch last

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<v Speaker 1>year at the at the Mets Pride game, and I

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<v Speaker 1>gotta tell you it was a strike when I threw it.

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<v Speaker 3>You knew this.

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<v Speaker 1>I went from the mound because you have to understand,

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<v Speaker 1>my dad is a sports That's right, he's baseball. They

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<v Speaker 1>really should have gone the extra mile there, but it

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<v Speaker 1>was it was a streamer. Yeah, I know exactly what

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<v Speaker 1>Cat was famous for doing in the rainbow balls. Wow

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<v Speaker 1>already right. Anyway, So it's a huge week for the

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<v Speaker 1>New York Mets. Explain So I really can't, but I

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<v Speaker 1>know that it's a big week. In fact, I texted

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<v Speaker 1>my father to explain. They went to the Mets game

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<v Speaker 1>last night, and I said, can you explain what's happening

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<v Speaker 1>with the Mets this week? Because I know it's a

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<v Speaker 1>big week And he said all these words, and so

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<v Speaker 1>I know that they're playing the Braves, the Atlanta Braves,

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<v Speaker 1>and they have to do well this week in order

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<v Speaker 1>to stay contentions. Playoff implications. Oh, there's major playoff implications.

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<v Speaker 1>Another front runner for title of app We're really rolling

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<v Speaker 1>at it today, but this is a major week. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm wearing my sort of giche and I pray for them.

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<v Speaker 1>I pray for them. Now, this is something that I

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<v Speaker 1>want to come back to, which is this idea of

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have to understand something in order to appreciate

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<v Speaker 1>and show love. Thank you so much. You know, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, I don't know how to do make clothes

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<v Speaker 1>and we're wearing and we're wearing them. Wow, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>I love this, thank you? But when would you want

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<v Speaker 1>to describe what you're wearing?

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<v Speaker 3>A little cable knit card.

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<v Speaker 2>Again, it is the second day of fall at the

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<v Speaker 2>time of recording.

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<v Speaker 1>We did it.

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<v Speaker 3>We beat it.

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<v Speaker 1>I have to be beat summer. It feels even better

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<v Speaker 1>than the end of Labor Day weekend, which I famously

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<v Speaker 1>said was.

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<v Speaker 2>At the end of summer, but you were corrected summarily.

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<v Speaker 1>It was controversy, yes, and we caught a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>controversy on this podcast, and now no one can say

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<v Speaker 1>anything to me. It's fucking over.

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<v Speaker 3>Stu season, Stoop season.

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<v Speaker 1>What is the stew you're gonna make this week?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna make a beauco, which is a Vietnamese beef stew,

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<v Speaker 2>lemon grass down, bitch, Oh my god, I'm doing it

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<v Speaker 2>on Sunday.

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<v Speaker 3>We're back at work.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, the top really jumps out when you talk

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<v Speaker 1>about stew.

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<v Speaker 3>The top.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I've really been looking forward to this episode. I

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<v Speaker 2>saw one of our guests at seth Myers. I had

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<v Speaker 2>the privilege and honor of doing Second Chance Theater. Our

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<v Speaker 2>guest remounted his legendary sketch called Mister Cotter, where he

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<v Speaker 2>plays someone who has basically just rear ranged his life

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<v Speaker 2>to look like his favorite actor, Gabe Kaplan from the

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<v Speaker 2>sitcom Welcome Back Cotter.

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<v Speaker 4>And no one knows what you're talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>People loved Volta. Yeah, and so it's been on six times,

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<v Speaker 2>been on six times, hilarious.

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<v Speaker 1>We gave him the jacket hilarious, and.

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<v Speaker 3>I stopped our guest.

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<v Speaker 2>I said, you and Harper have to come on when

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<v Speaker 2>the doc comes out Rave reviews at Sun Dance.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, come on, you know, one hundred percent I'm

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<v Speaker 1>nottten tomatoes. That's all the percent. That's literally every percent

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<v Speaker 1>you could get and not for nothing. But you watch

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<v Speaker 1>it and it works on every level. I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 1>an incredible story of friendship, of resilience. I mean, you'll learn,

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<v Speaker 1>you will laugh. It's just got all the greats in it.

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<v Speaker 1>And I really feel like I had so many emotions

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<v Speaker 1>watching it. It's one of those like true feats of

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<v Speaker 1>documentary film and that it captures so much. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>like it's it's just fucking great.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Yeah, it's incredible. Will and Harper. It's not on

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<v Speaker 2>Netflix September twenty seventh. You simply must watch. We're simply

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<v Speaker 2>so happy.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah that our guests.

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<v Speaker 1>Are here, give it up. Alphabetical, alphabetical, last Nattie, here

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<v Speaker 1>we go. Welcome and see your ears Welfare on Harper Seal. Now, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>welcome to the show.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you drive here?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Did you? Yeah? I love driving in New York.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh my god, it's so easy today too. Today there's

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<v Speaker 5>some events going on and I don't think it's Mariah Garry.

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<v Speaker 1>It's art carry.

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<v Speaker 2>She's performing at the UN General Assembly, which.

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<v Speaker 5>Is also okay.

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<v Speaker 3>I always come to Manhattan during the UN General Assembly.

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<v Speaker 3>And I stay in Midtown in the un area. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>do you ever try, you ever try to get it.

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<v Speaker 3>I've tried a couple of times as a foreign diplomat,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, and I'm tackled to the ground. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yah, yeah. I was surprised they didn't let y'all into

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<v Speaker 1>the White House because I feel like when you pointed

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<v Speaker 1>to your face and said this is how we're getting

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<v Speaker 1>in to see Big Joe, I thought this might work.

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<v Speaker 5>No, no, no, no.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like you're gonna get pushback, Will, because I

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<v Speaker 2>think that one of the first things that said in

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<v Speaker 2>the film is you say hi, I'm Will Ferrell, one

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<v Speaker 2>of the greatest actors of all time. And then Matt

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<v Speaker 2>and I were like, well, yeah, truly you.

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<v Speaker 1>Made it a joke and we think it's true.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't like this. Are you listening to this? I'm not.

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<v Speaker 5>I can't hear anything.

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<v Speaker 3>No, thank you. I so appreciate that.

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<v Speaker 2>Is this a matter of distup between the two of you.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it's been at that's a point of contention.

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<v Speaker 1>What is your greatest role?

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you God, I love this. This is the greatest

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<v Speaker 3>podcast ever. I'm what is my greatest role? Human being?

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<v Speaker 3>Human being?

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<v Speaker 1>Human being like you the way you the way the way.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I think people do think you're great, and I

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<v Speaker 5>think people need to know that there's work. There's just

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<v Speaker 5>work to be done. We can improve every day.

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<v Speaker 3>Of work in progress. I'm a work in progress.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, well, yeah, absolutely, I feel I'm progressing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you're progressing every day. I'm almost there. Complete. Oh

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<v Speaker 3>you feel yeah, you feel pretty good like you're Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I think, Okay, what is the greatest role?

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<v Speaker 3>What is my greatest role? Yeah? Human being?

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<v Speaker 1>I started stopping because this emotional immediately I didn't want

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<v Speaker 1>I did want to ask about So in the beginning

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<v Speaker 1>of the documentary, you talk about your beginnings at SNL.

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<v Speaker 1>You really felt you were a flop. You didn't think

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<v Speaker 1>people were getting it at first.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I kind of have to warm up to the room,

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<v Speaker 3>I will be. Yeah, I'm not a guns of blazing

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<v Speaker 3>at least back the like Cherio Terry was doing.

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<v Speaker 5>You were confident. Yeah, I was, but it wasn't very

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<v Speaker 5>subdued human beings.

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<v Speaker 3>There were already clicks that had formed. People were way

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<v Speaker 3>more like just really felt like they had been there

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<v Speaker 3>the whole time. I'm like, wow, it just was overwhelming

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<v Speaker 3>and yeah, but but it's funny to hear. It was

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<v Speaker 3>funny to hear after like, you know, a couple of

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<v Speaker 3>ris We're like, yeah, everyone just thought you were like

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<v Speaker 3>you seemed nice, but yeah, he's not that funny. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know what he's gonna do on the like, who

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<v Speaker 3>is that guy? Right? Why is he here?

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<v Speaker 2>Even though it was the same start week for both

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<v Speaker 2>of you, Yeah, we both started, but I had kind

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<v Speaker 2>of come in with the John Stewart Show, so I had.

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<v Speaker 5>A little clique, a little group of my own, and

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<v Speaker 5>so yeah, I wasn't.

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<v Speaker 3>I wasn't.

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<v Speaker 5>And then Steve had already sort of gotten good with

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<v Speaker 5>in with the Second City people because Cindy capan Era

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<v Speaker 5>they were best friends. So I kind of had a

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<v Speaker 5>little bit in and then I just would get asked

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<v Speaker 5>every once in a while. We were all sort of

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<v Speaker 5>sizing up talent.

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<v Speaker 3>And I was also on the other side. My office

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<v Speaker 3>was behind the page. Oh yeah, that wasn't part of

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<v Speaker 3>the No Man's Land, And I walk over to that

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<v Speaker 3>to the writer's room table side, and it was gales

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<v Speaker 3>of laughter down.

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<v Speaker 5>Gale Gale's bit Scalore, everyone doing it a bit, and I.

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<v Speaker 3>Was laid on the bit and I didn't already understand

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<v Speaker 3>the inside joke, and I go back to my Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Not a good feeling to be outside of the bit.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, also, he just wasn't enough for like bidding for.

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<v Speaker 3>Do some longstance phone calls.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, on the phone, doing your own bit.

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<v Speaker 3>And then I was like, I have touess I'll go

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<v Speaker 3>to Ikea and my apartment. I don't know what else

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<v Speaker 3>to do. They brought us in so early.

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<v Speaker 5>Too, yeah, like really early early, like into August.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wow.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>It was fun though, because there's no pressure at that point,

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<v Speaker 5>so the show is not happening for a long time,

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<v Speaker 5>and you're like, I can't wait for the show to start,

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<v Speaker 5>which obviously we know that's not really fun.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you two came, I think, and it's documented in

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<v Speaker 2>the documentary YouTube. Came on a on a read through day,

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<v Speaker 2>I remember, and you both came down and just say

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<v Speaker 2>hi everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>It was so lovely. We'd heard the scuttle about that

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<v Speaker 1>the doc was starting. Was Travis Kelcey, the host, Travis Kelcey.

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<v Speaker 3>That was the week. Yeah, we were so. We were

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<v Speaker 3>once again overwhelmed because that was not really read through

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<v Speaker 3>in the studio. It was so foreign to us totally.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a little yeah, you know what, we're recording

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<v Speaker 1>this right before the first week back, and by the

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<v Speaker 1>time this comes out, I'll know whether or not we're

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<v Speaker 1>back on seven to seven.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Louren that's the mission Lorn wants.

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<v Speaker 5>It's such an intimate, such a better well. I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>we can't. I can't compare because I didn't fit through

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<v Speaker 5>a read through on this, but what I saw it

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<v Speaker 5>looked sort of hollow. You get up there on seventeen.

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<v Speaker 5>It's intimate and there's lots of yeah, the laughter you

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<v Speaker 5>can hear and or when I wrote sketches often you

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<v Speaker 5>couldn't hear the yeah acoustically. It's better up yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>But by the time, when did the bits start of

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<v Speaker 2>you walking around? And was it that you were Lisa

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<v Speaker 2>Kudro's brother, like you were playing or you were playing

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<v Speaker 2>someone's brother.

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<v Speaker 3>You were like I was a Chip coudraise brother. There

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<v Speaker 3>was no character by the way.

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<v Speaker 1>You had glasses on.

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<v Speaker 3>I had the same vocal intonation I wore, Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 3>wore your greatest.

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<v Speaker 5>Human you kind of a least, I think, but you

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<v Speaker 5>kind of dumbed Chip down.

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<v Speaker 3>A little bit. Chip Kudrow said, really.

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<v Speaker 5>One line we He would sit at read through and

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<v Speaker 5>we would all be going over the sketch and Chip

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<v Speaker 5>would just go, I would invert that.

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<v Speaker 3>That's all Chip would be at the rewrite there was

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<v Speaker 3>super affable. Yeah sure, and then would just sit there

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<v Speaker 3>smiling and yeah, give them something. And then somewhat Higgins

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<v Speaker 3>or some we go, Chip, do you have? I would

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<v Speaker 3>invert it.

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<v Speaker 2>I would do the funny part the beginning, and then

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<v Speaker 2>end on the I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait, well, so then what would happen? Where would Chip be?

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<v Speaker 1>Like where would Will be?

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<v Speaker 2>When Chip was kind of just holding just being in.

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<v Speaker 5>The room like Superman.

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<v Speaker 1>And there was no distinguishing physical thing either. That's even

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<v Speaker 1>better than the whole car Kent Bulls.

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<v Speaker 3>But at what point was there the comfort to broach Chip?

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<v Speaker 3>Because that huge That was at least it was not

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<v Speaker 3>the first year. It was probably second or third year. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it's not bad. It takes people a couple a couple.

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<v Speaker 2>Of seasons to to show themselves.

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<v Speaker 3>But that's the other place harpurn I bonded just constantly

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<v Speaker 3>reminding ourselves and everyone else with the show that like

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<v Speaker 3>we're doing comedy, let's not take it too seriously. We're

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<v Speaker 3>going to fail. We know that failing is kind of

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<v Speaker 3>yeah liberator, right, if you don't get Gabe Kaplan.

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<v Speaker 2>But that ended up being such a triumph by the end.

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<v Speaker 3>Well but sure it's funny.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, all it needed was someone to show

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<v Speaker 2>a picture of what Gabe Kaplan looked like. And then

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<v Speaker 2>when the reveal is that you look like him, it's funny.

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<v Speaker 3>Can I bring up or you should talk about Box

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<v Speaker 3>of Ship?

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<v Speaker 1>Now talk about Oh I don't know.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, yeah, well no, no, no, I'm very proud of Box

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<v Speaker 5>of Ship.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the first two seasons, that's a rural culture. At

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<v Speaker 1>number eighty, I'm really proud of a box of shit.

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<v Speaker 5>The first few seasons of the SNL, I would compile

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<v Speaker 5>a viewing party called the Box of Ship. It was

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<v Speaker 5>the worst sketches of the year, good and I had

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<v Speaker 5>to you have to include one of your own because

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<v Speaker 5>it's you know, you can't.

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<v Speaker 3>Kiss imagine we all we all had shitty sketches.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, some people weren't invited to the Box of Ship

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<v Speaker 5>viewing party because they didn't have the same attitude.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so you have to be careful there.

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<v Speaker 5>But if you're thinking what eye on the Box of Ship?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, you were, yeah, you have to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>roll in the box of ship.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but it became a point of pride of course,

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<v Speaker 3>Box of ship. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>And we had this one sketch and I'm not going

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<v Speaker 5>to name who it was. It was a commercial parody,

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<v Speaker 5>but there was a laugh on it that was from

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<v Speaker 5>maybe forty second Street.

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<v Speaker 3>It was the only laugh.

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<v Speaker 5>It was so far away from the building and so

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<v Speaker 5>and we just analyzed it over and over again.

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<v Speaker 3>Was it a laugh?

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<v Speaker 5>Where did it come from? But it was silent, a

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<v Speaker 5>commercial parody that was silent.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Like and the phantom laugh is just a s

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<v Speaker 2>fuzz of static.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like.

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<v Speaker 2>Forty second Street.

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<v Speaker 5>You were like, oh, that's just someone out on forty seconds.

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<v Speaker 3>Can you do that again? That's very you sound.

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<v Speaker 5>People get out your equipment.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, No, they're gonna do what they're gonna do it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they're they're open the pods.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, Is that the right terminology? Really? Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>You always think, you always think whenever you go into

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<v Speaker 1>like a studio or something, that there's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>knobs like this everywhere. Nowadays, very few.

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<v Speaker 3>Knobs like.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know what, I'm doing this too, As if

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<v Speaker 1>there's like one one the glamour of recording one one

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<v Speaker 1>one pod. This is hanging off for the other side

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<v Speaker 1>and you sort of slide the nob and go, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's it. Turn the games up. I don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>a single one are actually, thank you. I have some experience.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm near some knobs. Now, this is very antiquated. You

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<v Speaker 1>need to email somebody.

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<v Speaker 3>Face the screen.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's that's not where you should be facing.

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<v Speaker 6>Having been said, what if I touch this, I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 6>do nothing. If you touch that, nothing, don't do it.

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<v Speaker 6>Don't you don't produce this podcast? Do you want us

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<v Speaker 6>to go down and flames?

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<v Speaker 3>It's the only good thing we had.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought about the joy of producing.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, can I say something because I don't think people

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<v Speaker 5>will knows how much do you evolved?

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<v Speaker 3>He is producing?

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<v Speaker 5>He was under the table here working wires this morning.

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<v Speaker 3>I got in here, and what about I was a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit late. So I got in here at six thirty.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sure here at five thirty. Yeah, and I was

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<v Speaker 3>real I was making sure the board was hooked up.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, totally.

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<v Speaker 3>I got the sony.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah that's for him. You know.

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<v Speaker 3>I line these up and I make sure the coffee

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<v Speaker 3>machine was working. Did you get did you.

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<v Speaker 5>Get this really cold coffee for everyone.

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<v Speaker 3>Getting?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Harbor, you're not a fan of cold coffee. You

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<v Speaker 2>want it hot.

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<v Speaker 3>I wanted a hot coffee, but it wasn't gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 1>So it can't always happen because the thing about hot

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<v Speaker 1>coffee is it can become cold, whereas cold coffee. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>become warm, but it.

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<v Speaker 3>Can't ever become right, Yeah, of course, of course. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Well you know, if you don't expect anything, you're not

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<v Speaker 1>were disappointed.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, pull out a paperback novel, right exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that one of my favorite parts of the

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<v Speaker 1>doc was seeing you guys all interact with you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Tina and Seth and Colin and everyone together, And I wonder, like,

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<v Speaker 1>what is that like to go into the room with

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<v Speaker 1>all those people, And of course there's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>the bits, but there is this very real thing of

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<v Speaker 1>this transformation and this change. Yeah, what were those emotions

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<v Speaker 1>that were going through your mind?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, very family like because and I know, Bo, when

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<v Speaker 5>you're there now, you probably hate everyone there, of course

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<v Speaker 5>you do, but but he'll.

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<v Speaker 3>Never say the truth.

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<v Speaker 5>But but I guarantee you in ten years that's your

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<v Speaker 5>high school, you will love those people. So much so

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<v Speaker 5>when I came out, the email got out to these

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<v Speaker 5>various people that I worked with at Saturday Life, they

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<v Speaker 5>were so supportive, so sweet. So walking into that room

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<v Speaker 5>was just really sweet and yeah, felt like a family.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, I just was so happy to see every

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<v Speaker 5>one of them except for Colin Joe's.

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<v Speaker 3>And no one wants.

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<v Speaker 1>Did Tim actually respond thinking it was a bit? Or

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<v Speaker 1>was that a bit?

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<v Speaker 6>Uh?

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<v Speaker 5>I didn't respond that aggressively that a bit? I think, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>he he got the news from an old friend of ours,

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<v Speaker 5>Marci Klein, and I think it came to Tim. And

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<v Speaker 5>there's a way to tell someone that they've transitioned, and

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<v Speaker 5>then there's a way maybe not to but I hope.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't feel that your way was not the right

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<v Speaker 2>way because it was completely personal and oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah no, and I and I know, I mean, it

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<v Speaker 5>was again everyone, which to me is the laughable thing.

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<v Speaker 5>We have a friend who came out on the Ellen Show,

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<v Speaker 5>but they were working at Ellen for like ten years

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<v Speaker 5>before they had the courage to come out this game,

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<v Speaker 5>and You're like, how is that possible? And I have

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<v Speaker 5>that feeling like why was I so afraid in the

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<v Speaker 5>world of entertainment? Is ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like that's sort of well outside of it.

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<v Speaker 1>But one thing that I that doesn't really come up

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<v Speaker 1>in the documentary, but that I was thinking about is

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<v Speaker 1>I was thinking back to that time and even when

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<v Speaker 1>we were really coming up in comedy, like It's funny.

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<v Speaker 1>The other day there was a piece on Bowen and

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<v Speaker 1>we talk about the sketch that we wrote many years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Was that first sketch that Bowen ever performed.

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<v Speaker 3>In our I wrote it.

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<v Speaker 1>It was called it was about Joan from man Man.

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<v Speaker 1>I wrote it, and we were talking about it and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like kind of reminiscing, and then I went

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<v Speaker 1>back to those sketches and I was like looking in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty thirteen at some of the sketches and I opened

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<v Speaker 1>one up. Yeah, and in the very first line there's

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<v Speaker 1>a transphobic joke. And we were queer, we felt very progressive,

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<v Speaker 1>and I actually had to sit back in my chair

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, wow, it flew out in the

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<v Speaker 1>first line. And then I really thought to myself about

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<v Speaker 1>how prevalent not only just casual racism, casual missagy, but

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<v Speaker 1>transphobia was world absolutely. And so when we talk about

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<v Speaker 1>the entertainment world, you were in the comedy world. Of

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<v Speaker 1>course there was some Oh yeah, and I just wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to ask, like to speak to that, Like, I'm certain

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<v Speaker 1>that if we went back to SNL sketches from your tenures,

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<v Speaker 1>there were things.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh definitely things I not would not write again at all.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, to know that you were dealing with this in

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<v Speaker 1>the midst of that, was that a rub or did

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<v Speaker 1>you find yourself participating in that type of comedy writing,

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<v Speaker 1>because that's just kind of what you did.

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<v Speaker 5>I think I got so good at disassociating that it

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<v Speaker 5>just was and not paying attention to how anxious or

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<v Speaker 5>how miserable. I was not paying attention to that side,

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<v Speaker 5>just letting this thing keep going, and just making sure

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<v Speaker 5>that the train state on the track, always doing the job,

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<v Speaker 5>just constantly, just and I love the job and I

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<v Speaker 5>love the people. So it's like one of these kind

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<v Speaker 5>of impossible things to explain. You're just living this experience

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<v Speaker 5>that seems in every way beautiful, and it was in

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<v Speaker 5>a lot of ways, and then there's just this other

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<v Speaker 5>side that's falling apart.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you think I was saying, do you think that

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<v Speaker 3>disassociation led to I mean, you're a funny person. But

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<v Speaker 3>do you think comedy was a way to not.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, without a doubt. No, I mean when I was

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<v Speaker 5>a kid, Yeah, exactly. I mean I became a class

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<v Speaker 5>clown for a reason.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I had to distract.

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<v Speaker 1>You, flourish, but also hide.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, of course, of course. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, I think a lot of comedians it's not

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<v Speaker 5>being trans, are being queer or anything. There's a lot

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<v Speaker 5>of things people are hiding in a comedy room, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>I think I you know, it's just a very disassociated

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<v Speaker 5>kind of world.

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<v Speaker 3>Really. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean there's a moment in the dock that's really

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<v Speaker 2>beautiful where it's YouTube with Forte on a hot air balloon.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that, man, I love that.

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<v Speaker 3>What a beautiful man to get to that shoot.

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<v Speaker 5>Belfte went through thirty different Yeah, and probably another hot

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<v Speaker 5>air balloon.

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<v Speaker 3>He interrupted, like a ski vacation, yeah, or something to

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<v Speaker 3>meet us on because we knew we were hitting Albuquerque

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<v Speaker 3>at a certain date and like most people, Oh, I'm busy,

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<v Speaker 3>I can't no, no, got out of there. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a thing that Harper says where she where you say?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, sometimes I wish I had come out sooner.

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<v Speaker 2>But if I had then I might not have met

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<v Speaker 2>you guys, and I might not have had a comedy job.

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<v Speaker 2>And I wanted to ask about this, what you feel

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<v Speaker 2>about this, Like temporal aspect to being a trans person,

0:22:23.800 --> 0:22:26.480
<v Speaker 2>You've always been a transperson, Yain. But then the moment

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<v Speaker 2>of coming out or of transition, which are also two

0:22:29.640 --> 0:22:33.520
<v Speaker 2>separate things that are chronologically undifferent. Low Si, Let's say,

0:22:33.720 --> 0:22:35.800
<v Speaker 2>how do we like reconcile those things though, I like,

0:22:35.840 --> 0:22:39.280
<v Speaker 2>you've always been this person, yeah, and yet the moment

0:22:39.359 --> 0:22:42.159
<v Speaker 2>of coming out is incredibly consequential.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, because I try to kind of reconcile it with

0:22:45.840 --> 0:22:47.720
<v Speaker 5>the sort of transness of my whole life.

0:22:47.920 --> 0:22:48.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>So, like a lot of the transness seep through in

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<v Speaker 5>so many great ways. And that's just that thing inside

0:22:53.480 --> 0:22:56.280
<v Speaker 5>me fighting me the whole time and finally winning. And

0:22:56.320 --> 0:22:59.400
<v Speaker 5>that's a really joyous thing to think about. Like I

0:22:59.440 --> 0:23:03.680
<v Speaker 5>thought it so hard for so long, or when I say, ah,

0:23:03.880 --> 0:23:06.520
<v Speaker 5>this is all complicated, but yes, I tried to keep

0:23:06.560 --> 0:23:08.920
<v Speaker 5>this thing down and it just kept fighting back.

0:23:09.000 --> 0:23:13.080
<v Speaker 3>So yes, on the other side of it, it's.

0:23:12.920 --> 0:23:16.040
<v Speaker 5>Like to come out in nineteen seventy nine, I mean,

0:23:16.080 --> 0:23:17.920
<v Speaker 5>which I wish I could have done. I wish I

0:23:17.960 --> 0:23:19.800
<v Speaker 5>could have come out in nineteen seventy nine. I'm not

0:23:20.320 --> 0:23:25.320
<v Speaker 5>I would have been as beautiful as Hunter's Shafer, but

0:23:28.400 --> 0:23:30.359
<v Speaker 5>oh my god, but if I could have come out,

0:23:30.359 --> 0:23:32.159
<v Speaker 5>then that would have been wonderful. I just don't know

0:23:32.160 --> 0:23:34.800
<v Speaker 5>if the world would have been the same. And to

0:23:34.880 --> 0:23:37.520
<v Speaker 5>get to Lorne Michaels wouldn't have hired a trans woman

0:23:38.320 --> 0:23:41.359
<v Speaker 5>in nineteen ninety six. I mean, I'm sure lorn Oh, no,

0:23:41.480 --> 0:23:44.159
<v Speaker 5>of course I would have. No, he's not doing that.

0:23:44.359 --> 0:23:46.320
<v Speaker 5>I mean I could have had a wonderful life. I

0:23:46.359 --> 0:23:48.439
<v Speaker 5>don't know what that life is. I'm not saying it

0:23:48.480 --> 0:23:51.400
<v Speaker 5>was going to be misery or anything, but yeah, I

0:23:51.480 --> 0:23:54.320
<v Speaker 5>just I also value all the friends and people I

0:23:54.440 --> 0:23:57.560
<v Speaker 5>made sort of just being half myself, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>All that aside, though, it is I think pretty incredible

0:24:01.720 --> 0:24:04.359
<v Speaker 2>that snel Like has already had a transhad writer.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh I love it. I love it.

0:24:05.760 --> 0:24:07.800
<v Speaker 5>I'm looking at the cast and the crew and the

0:24:07.800 --> 0:24:11.280
<v Speaker 5>writers now and it's it's just like, yes, thank you, I'm.

0:24:11.119 --> 0:24:12.840
<v Speaker 2>Talking about I'm talking about you. Like anytime you ask

0:24:12.920 --> 0:24:15.240
<v Speaker 2>me like, oh, what's it like with this? You know, oh,

0:24:15.320 --> 0:24:17.320
<v Speaker 2>of course for your sensibility that's broken in, I'm like, well,

0:24:17.320 --> 0:24:18.960
<v Speaker 2>I don't think it's broken. I think it's always been there,

0:24:18.960 --> 0:24:19.440
<v Speaker 2>like there's.

0:24:19.359 --> 0:24:24.800
<v Speaker 5>A second female head writer. I mean, yeah, yeah, goddam

0:24:27.000 --> 0:24:29.600
<v Speaker 5>girl boss about that that you didn't need.

0:24:30.000 --> 0:24:36.359
<v Speaker 3>That much way? When is it enough? Gorgeously? Did you

0:24:36.400 --> 0:24:37.880
<v Speaker 3>not see that I was a woman?

0:24:39.760 --> 0:24:40.720
<v Speaker 1>You seen that?

0:24:42.280 --> 0:24:43.439
<v Speaker 3>This is Tina's fault.

0:24:43.800 --> 0:24:54.040
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, Tina impressed me to get ahead.

0:24:48.280 --> 0:24:48.359
<v Speaker 3>That.

0:24:50.000 --> 0:25:03.960
<v Speaker 1>People magazines coming for you. One thing that really blew

0:25:04.040 --> 0:25:06.480
<v Speaker 1>me away is, and it always bows me away, is

0:25:06.520 --> 0:25:11.080
<v Speaker 1>when someone has a passion for solo road trips through

0:25:11.119 --> 0:25:14.040
<v Speaker 1>the middle of the country. And one thing that this

0:25:14.080 --> 0:25:15.440
<v Speaker 1>is part of the ride that I was on and

0:25:15.520 --> 0:25:19.159
<v Speaker 1>watching the documentary, was how I was checking in with

0:25:19.160 --> 0:25:22.520
<v Speaker 1>my body, like when you guys go into those bars,

0:25:22.560 --> 0:25:25.040
<v Speaker 1>those hole in the wall bars. I had like a

0:25:25.080 --> 0:25:27.960
<v Speaker 1>response to it. And one thing that I think was

0:25:28.040 --> 0:25:31.080
<v Speaker 1>my pull from this was not only how beautiful your

0:25:31.080 --> 0:25:34.560
<v Speaker 1>story was and how beautiful your friendship is, but how

0:25:34.640 --> 0:25:40.639
<v Speaker 1>afraid I really am of those spaces and how I

0:25:40.680 --> 0:25:44.520
<v Speaker 1>feel like whether it's I've been conditioned or I've learned

0:25:44.560 --> 0:25:48.600
<v Speaker 1>and need to unlearn, but I myself have a phobia

0:25:48.720 --> 0:25:51.199
<v Speaker 1>of a type of person. I think that is learned

0:25:51.600 --> 0:25:55.240
<v Speaker 1>because whether it's a trauma response or something be being

0:25:55.320 --> 0:25:58.760
<v Speaker 1>defensive like and I know that I can code switch

0:25:58.840 --> 0:26:00.919
<v Speaker 1>in those spaces if I wanted to. In fact, I

0:26:00.920 --> 0:26:02.600
<v Speaker 1>did it many years to survive in my.

0:26:02.560 --> 0:26:05.040
<v Speaker 5>Own road switching today with you like.

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<v Speaker 1>This, I didn't, but like any think, the reason I

0:26:08.200 --> 0:26:10.119
<v Speaker 1>even owned this shirt is because I had it a

0:26:10.200 --> 0:26:16.600
<v Speaker 1>long time ago. But just the ability to go into

0:26:16.600 --> 0:26:18.760
<v Speaker 1>those spaces is now one that you have to think

0:26:18.800 --> 0:26:21.280
<v Speaker 1>about in a different way. And I think, were you

0:26:22.080 --> 0:26:24.560
<v Speaker 1>actively nervous those whole times? Did you feel protected by

0:26:24.600 --> 0:26:27.600
<v Speaker 1>the cameras and by Will's presence and so was that Yeah?

0:26:27.640 --> 0:26:28.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean I guess yeah.

0:26:28.720 --> 0:26:30.880
<v Speaker 5>I mean I wasn't as nervous. I mean that bar

0:26:31.000 --> 0:26:33.280
<v Speaker 5>going in by myself was a weird experience. I mean,

0:26:33.280 --> 0:26:35.200
<v Speaker 5>I'm looking around at people I grew up with. I

0:26:35.280 --> 0:26:38.080
<v Speaker 5>knew that world a little bit. That felt weird. But

0:26:38.119 --> 0:26:40.160
<v Speaker 5>I also had a camera crew and my buddy Will

0:26:40.240 --> 0:26:42.200
<v Speaker 5>was outside, Yeah, and I knew he was going to

0:26:42.240 --> 0:26:44.760
<v Speaker 5>come in. So whenever I was traveling with Will, I

0:26:44.760 --> 0:26:48.119
<v Speaker 5>didn't have a sort of typical trans experience obviously. But no,

0:26:48.200 --> 0:26:51.680
<v Speaker 5>I've been back and forth twice now and I still,

0:26:52.320 --> 0:26:54.000
<v Speaker 5>like you, I'm not sure I'm going to go back

0:26:54.040 --> 0:26:56.840
<v Speaker 5>into that kind of bar at night, I will go

0:26:56.920 --> 0:26:59.560
<v Speaker 5>into truck stops and the places that I love and

0:26:59.600 --> 0:27:01.880
<v Speaker 5>I have and I and I feel way more confident.

0:27:01.960 --> 0:27:05.159
<v Speaker 5>But no, I mean and code switching is such a

0:27:05.160 --> 0:27:08.439
<v Speaker 5>funny thing. There's a thing in this documentary. It just

0:27:08.480 --> 0:27:11.359
<v Speaker 5>bothers me every time I see it. We're in that

0:27:11.440 --> 0:27:14.800
<v Speaker 5>Oklahoma bar and and I'm talking to people and I go,

0:27:14.920 --> 0:27:18.679
<v Speaker 5>y'all and uh and and I at this fear based

0:27:18.720 --> 0:27:20.199
<v Speaker 5>you know, And it's not It's not a bad thing

0:27:20.240 --> 0:27:20.800
<v Speaker 5>to be fearful.

0:27:20.840 --> 0:27:21.760
<v Speaker 3>It's safety, right.

0:27:21.840 --> 0:27:23.119
<v Speaker 5>And I grew up in Iowa, and I know what

0:27:23.200 --> 0:27:26.280
<v Speaker 5>y'all means, and I've said it, but every time I

0:27:26.280 --> 0:27:27.840
<v Speaker 5>see it now, I'm like, aren't.

0:27:27.600 --> 0:27:30.040
<v Speaker 3>You proud to be out Harper Steel?

0:27:30.400 --> 0:27:31.360
<v Speaker 5>Why you don't need to say y'all?

0:27:31.440 --> 0:27:31.680
<v Speaker 3>Y'all?

0:27:31.800 --> 0:27:32.919
<v Speaker 5>Well, I still do a little bit.

0:27:33.280 --> 0:27:35.800
<v Speaker 1>Oh what do you mean? What's what's scary about y'all?

0:27:35.880 --> 0:27:36.520
<v Speaker 1>Or what's what is it?

0:27:36.560 --> 0:27:38.879
<v Speaker 5>Just I'm just trying to connect with these people in

0:27:38.920 --> 0:27:41.560
<v Speaker 5>a way I am code switching. I'm trying to connect

0:27:41.600 --> 0:27:44.679
<v Speaker 5>with them and like, don't hurt me basically totally.

0:27:44.800 --> 0:27:46.480
<v Speaker 2>And I but I think there's I don't know where

0:27:46.720 --> 0:27:48.119
<v Speaker 2>how this nests together.

0:27:48.160 --> 0:27:48.639
<v Speaker 3>But I feel like.

0:27:48.640 --> 0:27:51.000
<v Speaker 2>There's there's code switching, and then there's also like I

0:27:51.040 --> 0:27:54.040
<v Speaker 2>would consider the y'all a signal just and like a

0:27:54.080 --> 0:27:54.760
<v Speaker 2>pretty you know what.

0:27:55.040 --> 0:27:56.200
<v Speaker 3>I take that back, You're right.

0:27:56.280 --> 0:27:58.600
<v Speaker 5>I code switching has become a kind of a dirty word,

0:27:58.720 --> 0:28:02.119
<v Speaker 5>and it's actually just a to communicate sometimes with people.

0:28:02.520 --> 0:28:05.639
<v Speaker 5>And I'm a hard of myself. But when you do

0:28:05.760 --> 0:28:09.160
<v Speaker 5>a great bro, what do you mean I've seen I've

0:28:09.160 --> 0:28:12.920
<v Speaker 5>heard your bro, you do a really good very.

0:28:14.840 --> 0:28:21.800
<v Speaker 3>I heard yeah, so yeah, so believe me you can

0:28:21.840 --> 0:28:26.040
<v Speaker 3>code switch. Wow, you haven't seen this guy do his brother?

0:28:26.560 --> 0:28:30.680
<v Speaker 3>Look at him? Whatever? Yeah, I don't.

0:28:30.720 --> 0:28:31.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't like attention, bro.

0:28:33.720 --> 0:28:35.240
<v Speaker 2>This is the thing. This is the thing about like

0:28:36.560 --> 0:28:38.040
<v Speaker 2>straight straight guys can.

0:28:37.960 --> 0:28:39.280
<v Speaker 1>Like, you know, wink at each other and be a

0:28:39.320 --> 0:28:41.360
<v Speaker 1>little bit whatever. I'll say this. I went to a

0:28:41.440 --> 0:28:44.080
<v Speaker 1>straight wedding recently. I went to a straight wedding recently.

0:28:44.600 --> 0:28:47.440
<v Speaker 1>But I don't know. God, I'm just like, yeah, so

0:28:47.640 --> 0:28:48.360
<v Speaker 1>you get away with it.

0:28:48.400 --> 0:28:52.440
<v Speaker 3>But I would never do anyway here.

0:28:52.480 --> 0:28:54.840
<v Speaker 1>But here's the thing. I went to a straight wedding recently,

0:28:55.320 --> 0:28:58.440
<v Speaker 1>and the straight men who are so comfortable with themselves

0:28:58.680 --> 0:29:03.160
<v Speaker 1>are touching are all over me. I think that they

0:29:03.200 --> 0:29:05.800
<v Speaker 1>wanted it more than any games because game man are

0:29:05.800 --> 0:29:09.000
<v Speaker 1>so aloof yeah, and they're so like like everyone wants

0:29:09.040 --> 0:29:12.360
<v Speaker 1>to be like the one, whereas these straight guys are

0:29:12.400 --> 0:29:15.440
<v Speaker 1>like whether they're gonna go there because it's something intrinsic

0:29:15.680 --> 0:29:19.000
<v Speaker 1>that they don't know about or like whatever. I feel

0:29:19.120 --> 0:29:22.680
<v Speaker 1>vibes with them, and I am a I know vibes.

0:29:23.960 --> 0:29:24.480
<v Speaker 3>I know.

0:29:24.960 --> 0:29:26.760
<v Speaker 1>If I know anything, I think it's because of the

0:29:26.760 --> 0:29:27.360
<v Speaker 1>code switching.

0:29:27.520 --> 0:29:29.440
<v Speaker 3>Okay, I know what it means to.

0:29:29.400 --> 0:29:31.160
<v Speaker 1>Be repressed or press or pressed, and then when something

0:29:31.160 --> 0:29:35.240
<v Speaker 1>feels open, like it's like a certain openness, Yeah, they're interested,

0:29:35.760 --> 0:29:36.960
<v Speaker 1>like I don't know what it is, and.

0:29:36.880 --> 0:29:37.840
<v Speaker 3>It's married guys.

0:29:38.040 --> 0:29:40.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so I'm just saying there's there's no.

0:29:40.320 --> 0:29:44.000
<v Speaker 5>But this is a person who's very comfortable in his skin, skin,

0:29:44.360 --> 0:29:48.120
<v Speaker 5>and I envied I always envy that right in people.

0:29:48.200 --> 0:29:51.160
<v Speaker 3>You know. Uh, that was so nice. That was a

0:29:51.200 --> 0:29:53.360
<v Speaker 3>lovely compliment. Did you write Mark Spitz?

0:29:54.080 --> 0:29:56.880
<v Speaker 5>I did not write the Mark Spitz, okay, but that was.

0:29:56.800 --> 0:29:57.760
<v Speaker 3>A lovely moment in the dock.

0:29:57.840 --> 0:30:00.600
<v Speaker 1>But also study was telling me last night, was Robert

0:30:00.600 --> 0:30:03.120
<v Speaker 1>Gulay that was your last season? Was that all in

0:30:03.120 --> 0:30:07.880
<v Speaker 1>the last season? Probably okay, but it was like it was,

0:30:07.760 --> 0:30:11.479
<v Speaker 1>it was towards the end. I feel like, Harper, your

0:30:11.520 --> 0:30:14.320
<v Speaker 1>tenure on the show is pretty expansive, like you're obviously

0:30:14.320 --> 0:30:15.400
<v Speaker 1>there when Will was there.

0:30:15.320 --> 0:30:19.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I was there and Amy and all. He's really

0:30:19.440 --> 0:30:23.600
<v Speaker 3>wonderful great, I mean, not to mention, really fostered so

0:30:23.840 --> 0:30:29.200
<v Speaker 3>many voices at Funnier Die Harper was like, go to office,

0:30:29.800 --> 0:30:34.360
<v Speaker 3>creative director. Yeah, and you'd stop by her office to

0:30:34.400 --> 0:30:36.480
<v Speaker 3>get an idea or get a note, and she would

0:30:36.880 --> 0:30:37.320
<v Speaker 3>she was.

0:30:37.320 --> 0:30:39.280
<v Speaker 5>Like, I mean, I'm kind of a genius.

0:30:39.520 --> 0:30:42.440
<v Speaker 2>Not see not kind of genius.

0:30:42.560 --> 0:30:45.400
<v Speaker 1>You threw it away, but it's true. Oops. I crapped

0:30:45.400 --> 0:30:47.600
<v Speaker 1>my pants when you came out with that shirt. I

0:30:47.640 --> 0:30:49.200
<v Speaker 1>flashed all the way back. That was one of the

0:30:49.480 --> 0:30:53.840
<v Speaker 1>like I do I think I downloaded like that. I

0:30:53.920 --> 0:30:57.960
<v Speaker 1>was gonna say kaza like Napster, but not you weren't

0:30:57.960 --> 0:30:59.040
<v Speaker 1>going to go to prison for it.

0:30:59.240 --> 0:31:03.280
<v Speaker 3>Albert nine Stein didn't speak until he was six years old.

0:31:03.680 --> 0:31:07.480
<v Speaker 3>When did you first speak? No, I spoke as soon

0:31:07.520 --> 0:31:13.680
<v Speaker 3>as I came How are you so much? Talk with

0:31:13.760 --> 0:31:14.720
<v Speaker 3>my sexuality?

0:31:14.760 --> 0:31:16.959
<v Speaker 2>And then they did, and then they did, is there

0:31:16.960 --> 0:31:18.200
<v Speaker 2>a unicycle nearby?

0:31:19.280 --> 0:31:23.560
<v Speaker 1>So that that was completely random that was no, there's.

0:31:23.640 --> 0:31:28.640
<v Speaker 5>Nothing, there's nothing composed documentary and and that was very strange.

0:31:28.720 --> 0:31:31.600
<v Speaker 3>And the and the therapist at the Grand Canyon was

0:31:31.760 --> 0:31:35.480
<v Speaker 3>like trying to make amends for Yeah, for.

0:31:35.520 --> 0:31:37.560
<v Speaker 1>Those who haven't seen it, he hasn't come out yet.

0:31:37.600 --> 0:31:39.520
<v Speaker 1>There are a couple of moments in here where you're

0:31:39.600 --> 0:31:42.800
<v Speaker 1>talking about how you would unicycle around your neighborhood.

0:31:42.520 --> 0:31:44.520
<v Speaker 3>Your child in front of your childhood home, and.

0:31:44.560 --> 0:31:50.720
<v Speaker 1>Then a unicyclist just and you get on the unicycle and.

0:31:51.360 --> 0:31:56.880
<v Speaker 5>In that was which bad form I'm going to say

0:31:56.920 --> 0:32:00.800
<v Speaker 5>for all unicycles out there, for the unicyclist press, that's

0:32:00.840 --> 0:32:02.240
<v Speaker 5>gonna do, like the review.

0:32:03.760 --> 0:32:07.160
<v Speaker 1>A new one, they're gonna rip the way you went

0:32:07.240 --> 0:32:09.360
<v Speaker 1>up that hill too. You had to maneuver some terrain,

0:32:09.880 --> 0:32:13.480
<v Speaker 1>the course strength. It was impressive.

0:32:14.280 --> 0:32:19.640
<v Speaker 3>That's gotten every screening, that's gotten an applause break when

0:32:19.760 --> 0:32:20.280
<v Speaker 3>she gets.

0:32:20.680 --> 0:32:23.640
<v Speaker 1>It's the don't rain on my parade of the year,

0:32:24.640 --> 0:32:26.520
<v Speaker 1>And there's always one every year, there's.

0:32:26.280 --> 0:32:29.200
<v Speaker 5>Always be one. Let's start nineteen ten.

0:32:30.720 --> 0:32:33.320
<v Speaker 2>There's you know what I mean, I think there is

0:32:33.600 --> 0:32:38.040
<v Speaker 2>some buzz starting about. I mean, obviously the a unicycle parade,

0:32:38.080 --> 0:32:40.400
<v Speaker 2>the unicycle parade that's starting up and I think that's

0:32:40.640 --> 0:32:41.960
<v Speaker 2>I think don't.

0:32:41.800 --> 0:32:44.240
<v Speaker 5>Please, don't please, don't make me go in the.

0:32:46.400 --> 0:32:48.160
<v Speaker 1>Bow is hitting at buzz.

0:32:48.040 --> 0:32:50.080
<v Speaker 2>For the docks, for the dock, but also a buzz

0:32:50.120 --> 0:32:52.600
<v Speaker 2>for and this is a little bit of a spoiler, but.

0:32:52.640 --> 0:32:56.200
<v Speaker 1>Started though Kristen has a song, Kristin Wig rights. So

0:32:56.240 --> 0:32:58.600
<v Speaker 1>the running bit of like the Chekhov's gun at the

0:32:58.640 --> 0:33:00.400
<v Speaker 1>beginning of like, write us a song and then you

0:33:00.400 --> 0:33:02.560
<v Speaker 1>almost think it's not gonna happen, and then it happens.

0:33:02.400 --> 0:33:05.680
<v Speaker 2>And when it happens it is like the final release

0:33:05.800 --> 0:33:07.160
<v Speaker 2>for me emotionally.

0:33:06.880 --> 0:33:09.840
<v Speaker 5>I just wonderful. She's just like and that was a

0:33:09.920 --> 0:33:12.520
<v Speaker 5>surprise to us. We didn't know that it was happening.

0:33:12.600 --> 0:33:14.600
<v Speaker 3>We did the bit and we just called her and

0:33:14.720 --> 0:33:19.440
<v Speaker 3>actually hadn't heard anything. We just thought I went checking with.

0:33:19.520 --> 0:33:24.200
<v Speaker 1>Josh, well did she write and and the direct Yeah,

0:33:24.360 --> 0:33:26.440
<v Speaker 1>and Josh Josh, Josh.

0:33:27.240 --> 0:33:29.800
<v Speaker 3>He's like, Josh is like, when do you guys come up?

0:33:29.840 --> 0:33:31.920
<v Speaker 3>I made a few more little edits or try I'd

0:33:31.960 --> 0:33:33.760
<v Speaker 3>like you guys to just watch the movie one more time,

0:33:33.920 --> 0:33:37.000
<v Speaker 3>like okay, sure we come in And then he he

0:33:37.160 --> 0:33:41.320
<v Speaker 3>revealed at the end, Wow did Barbon star? Yes?

0:33:41.480 --> 0:33:44.720
<v Speaker 5>Yes, so he knew Kristen and was able to go

0:33:44.960 --> 0:33:49.440
<v Speaker 5>and cajole her into your writing a song.

0:33:49.560 --> 0:33:51.840
<v Speaker 3>But oh my god, I love her her death.

0:33:52.160 --> 0:33:55.160
<v Speaker 1>She's so brilliant. And also the song is not only

0:33:55.160 --> 0:33:58.560
<v Speaker 1>beautiful but also funny and the jazz I mean, yeah,

0:33:59.160 --> 0:34:00.840
<v Speaker 1>you know it goes play music.

0:34:01.200 --> 0:34:04.160
<v Speaker 5>We gave her some interesting notes, yes, but yes, that's

0:34:04.200 --> 0:34:04.640
<v Speaker 5>part of the bit.

0:34:04.720 --> 0:34:07.960
<v Speaker 3>And yet she kind of makes yeah except did she

0:34:08.000 --> 0:34:15.600
<v Speaker 3>pull off the country? No? Yeah, yeah, I think it

0:34:15.719 --> 0:34:19.040
<v Speaker 3>lived in there a little bit. Take it back? What

0:34:19.239 --> 0:34:22.040
<v Speaker 3>d what terrible terrible song? Right off off?

0:34:22.760 --> 0:34:26.680
<v Speaker 2>I think we should ask Harper the questions hit. We're

0:34:26.680 --> 0:34:28.440
<v Speaker 2>gonna ask you the question we ask all of our guests,

0:34:29.160 --> 0:34:30.920
<v Speaker 2>Harper Steel, what was the culture that made you say?

0:34:31.000 --> 0:34:32.080
<v Speaker 3>Culture was for me?

0:34:32.960 --> 0:34:35.120
<v Speaker 5>I hope this is a good answer, because I really

0:34:35.160 --> 0:34:36.480
<v Speaker 5>don't know what you guys mean by them.

0:34:36.960 --> 0:34:37.879
<v Speaker 1>That's actually.

0:34:39.680 --> 0:34:40.040
<v Speaker 3>Interesting.

0:34:41.320 --> 0:34:44.040
<v Speaker 5>But I'm going to tell you so Rocky our pictures

0:34:44.040 --> 0:34:49.120
<v Speaker 5>show it wasn't the movie. I was in Chicago. I

0:34:49.160 --> 0:34:52.120
<v Speaker 5>saw it with friends. Afterwards. It was at the Biograph Theater.

0:34:52.200 --> 0:34:55.080
<v Speaker 5>Afterwards we went to a diner. I'm sitting with my

0:34:55.520 --> 0:35:00.719
<v Speaker 5>broie friends and incomes for queens. Yeah, and they're over

0:35:00.800 --> 0:35:05.319
<v Speaker 5>here and I'm over here. I'm watching this group over here.

0:35:05.960 --> 0:35:08.839
<v Speaker 5>And if I could have split my body in half

0:35:08.920 --> 0:35:12.879
<v Speaker 5>at that point, I would have gone over to that table.

0:35:13.160 --> 0:35:16.960
<v Speaker 5>But something kept me over on this side, and it

0:35:17.120 --> 0:35:18.280
<v Speaker 5>was it was intense.

0:35:18.520 --> 0:35:20.839
<v Speaker 3>I could feel it like, oh, there it is over there.

0:35:20.920 --> 0:35:21.520
<v Speaker 3>You can reach it.

0:35:22.000 --> 0:35:23.000
<v Speaker 5>Nope, can't have it.

0:35:23.560 --> 0:35:25.120
<v Speaker 1>So this was after you had seen it.

0:35:25.200 --> 0:35:29.879
<v Speaker 5>So I was nineteen eighty one, maybe I was twenty

0:35:29.960 --> 0:35:30.359
<v Speaker 5>years old.

0:35:30.600 --> 0:35:33.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and so you just to be clear you, I

0:35:33.560 --> 0:35:35.279
<v Speaker 3>went to Sea Rock Era Pictures show.

0:35:35.400 --> 0:35:37.719
<v Speaker 5>The whole night was magical, people up on stage doing

0:35:37.760 --> 0:35:40.920
<v Speaker 5>Frankenfurt or whatever, but it was really just being in

0:35:41.000 --> 0:35:43.960
<v Speaker 5>that neighborhood sort of Chicago neighborhood.

0:35:43.960 --> 0:35:47.719
<v Speaker 3>I can't remember what it is, but Link Park, God,

0:35:47.840 --> 0:35:52.160
<v Speaker 3>thank you you have the fairground.

0:35:53.520 --> 0:35:57.400
<v Speaker 5>I'm so happy that. No, this is my this is

0:35:57.480 --> 0:36:02.399
<v Speaker 5>my hype, man, I need this h But anyway, yeah,

0:36:02.400 --> 0:36:02.600
<v Speaker 5>it was.

0:36:02.680 --> 0:36:03.880
<v Speaker 3>It was in this neighborhood.

0:36:03.920 --> 0:36:06.800
<v Speaker 5>And there's obviously where people when you saw the movie

0:36:06.880 --> 0:36:09.360
<v Speaker 5>and then I'm sitting there looking and I don't know

0:36:09.480 --> 0:36:11.080
<v Speaker 5>what their gender was or anything.

0:36:11.280 --> 0:36:13.239
<v Speaker 3>Just was just like, oh, this is fun.

0:36:13.280 --> 0:36:17.320
<v Speaker 2>Over there were there remarks from the bros at the table.

0:36:17.680 --> 0:36:20.319
<v Speaker 3>No no, no, no, one was really.

0:36:20.440 --> 0:36:23.120
<v Speaker 5>In fact, there was another person who came out later

0:36:23.200 --> 0:36:23.760
<v Speaker 5>at the table.

0:36:24.280 --> 0:36:26.799
<v Speaker 3>I was in touch with any of those bro.

0:36:27.000 --> 0:36:29.040
<v Speaker 5>Yeah yeah, yeah, no, no, of course some of those brothers,

0:36:29.120 --> 0:36:29.320
<v Speaker 5>you know.

0:36:30.640 --> 0:36:31.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah.

0:36:31.480 --> 0:36:35.200
<v Speaker 5>So I was hanging out with Lorne Michaels and we

0:36:35.320 --> 0:36:37.520
<v Speaker 5>were just like, Hey, the cubs are playing.

0:36:37.320 --> 0:36:43.120
<v Speaker 3>The more, I've got an idea for the show. You're

0:36:44.400 --> 0:36:45.720
<v Speaker 3>I'm thinking of going back.

0:36:46.800 --> 0:36:49.640
<v Speaker 5>Going back, what you should it's gonna be. I told him,

0:36:49.680 --> 0:36:52.920
<v Speaker 5>I said, go back, you have to go back more.

0:36:52.960 --> 0:36:54.000
<v Speaker 5>And I think it's gonna work.

0:36:54.120 --> 0:36:54.600
<v Speaker 1>It needs you.

0:36:54.960 --> 0:36:55.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:36:55.600 --> 0:36:58.560
<v Speaker 5>But anyway, that was my culture moment. I don't know

0:36:58.600 --> 0:37:01.120
<v Speaker 5>if that's perfect answer.

0:37:01.200 --> 0:37:03.840
<v Speaker 1>In fact, I actually feel a little scene by the

0:37:03.920 --> 0:37:07.200
<v Speaker 1>answer because when we were eighteen, one of the Welcome

0:37:07.239 --> 0:37:09.640
<v Speaker 1>Week activities that I did, I don't know if you

0:37:09.640 --> 0:37:11.839
<v Speaker 1>remember this, but they had the Rocky Horror Picture Show

0:37:11.880 --> 0:37:13.600
<v Speaker 1>at NYU and they were showing the movie and it

0:37:13.680 --> 0:37:15.840
<v Speaker 1>was interactive and it was one of those things I

0:37:15.920 --> 0:37:18.279
<v Speaker 1>had never I didn't I think I was aware of

0:37:18.360 --> 0:37:20.080
<v Speaker 1>what Rocky har was. I think I just thought it

0:37:20.080 --> 0:37:23.759
<v Speaker 1>was a movie with Susan Sarandon as I want to think, Yeah,

0:37:23.960 --> 0:37:26.120
<v Speaker 1>But then in seeing what it was and seeing that

0:37:26.239 --> 0:37:28.319
<v Speaker 1>it was a place for people to truly lit there,

0:37:28.360 --> 0:37:32.279
<v Speaker 1>I guess, freak flag flag and access this part of

0:37:32.320 --> 0:37:35.080
<v Speaker 1>yourself that was like the animal. And then you know

0:37:35.160 --> 0:37:37.520
<v Speaker 1>what's funny is a couple months later, Lady Gaga would

0:37:37.920 --> 0:37:39.680
<v Speaker 1>sort of take over New York and the little monster

0:37:39.800 --> 0:37:42.279
<v Speaker 1>thing would happen, and it almost felt like something was

0:37:42.360 --> 0:37:44.480
<v Speaker 1>speaking to me on high, don't see these things and

0:37:44.560 --> 0:37:48.359
<v Speaker 1>feel these things. And I remember they had a moment

0:37:48.480 --> 0:37:50.200
<v Speaker 1>in the thing where they stopped it and they said,

0:37:50.360 --> 0:37:51.960
<v Speaker 1>we're going to come out into the audience and we're

0:37:52.000 --> 0:37:53.520
<v Speaker 1>going to pick people out of the crowd, and you're

0:37:53.560 --> 0:37:56.560
<v Speaker 1>gonna come up and everyone's going to do a fake orgasm. Whoa,

0:37:57.200 --> 0:37:57.839
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god.

0:37:58.320 --> 0:37:59.920
<v Speaker 3>For some reason, I wouldn't have been able to do

0:38:00.080 --> 0:38:01.799
<v Speaker 3>it at all, No way, I don't know why.

0:38:01.920 --> 0:38:04.480
<v Speaker 1>But I raised my hand, yeah, and I went up

0:38:04.520 --> 0:38:09.320
<v Speaker 1>there and I did a terrible fa orgasm and I

0:38:09.360 --> 0:38:09.920
<v Speaker 1>got booed.

0:38:10.640 --> 0:38:13.680
<v Speaker 3>One of the time we went down the line. You

0:38:13.800 --> 0:38:14.840
<v Speaker 3>still get line everyone.

0:38:16.040 --> 0:38:17.719
<v Speaker 1>They lined us all up and there were these people

0:38:17.760 --> 0:38:21.640
<v Speaker 1>on like fish nets of course, like everywhere. Yeah, and

0:38:21.840 --> 0:38:23.560
<v Speaker 1>like they got to me and I did this horrible thing.

0:38:23.600 --> 0:38:25.040
<v Speaker 1>I think it was wearing American ego, you know what

0:38:25.080 --> 0:38:26.719
<v Speaker 1>I mean. Like it was like I was in by

0:38:26.760 --> 0:38:28.600
<v Speaker 1>like Long Island Drag, very much like this, and I

0:38:28.680 --> 0:38:30.400
<v Speaker 1>did a terrible one and they booed me and I

0:38:30.480 --> 0:38:32.160
<v Speaker 1>went to sit in my seat and I was like, wow,

0:38:32.239 --> 0:38:34.520
<v Speaker 1>I am so far away from being the person I

0:38:34.719 --> 0:38:38.279
<v Speaker 1>want to be. Yah, because you have so many checkpoints.

0:38:38.440 --> 0:38:40.600
<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, And it wasn't going to happen. Just wasn't

0:38:40.640 --> 0:38:41.080
<v Speaker 5>going to happen.

0:38:41.640 --> 0:38:43.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I've never seen Rocky horror.

0:38:44.120 --> 0:38:46.480
<v Speaker 2>Will Farah, can I tell you something? If you sit

0:38:46.640 --> 0:38:47.800
<v Speaker 2>will I haven't either.

0:38:48.000 --> 0:38:50.759
<v Speaker 5>Okay, okay, because I was about to say, when Will

0:38:50.840 --> 0:38:52.080
<v Speaker 5>sees it, he will come.

0:38:51.960 --> 0:39:00.400
<v Speaker 3>Out Ah probably yeah, chance it will you guys, I

0:39:00.520 --> 0:39:01.839
<v Speaker 3>wasn't number Wow.

0:39:01.920 --> 0:39:03.879
<v Speaker 1>Wait, I can't believe you've never seen it either.

0:39:05.120 --> 0:39:08.200
<v Speaker 3>I remember it was necessary, really, it was at a

0:39:08.280 --> 0:39:08.839
<v Speaker 3>certain point.

0:39:08.960 --> 0:39:15.800
<v Speaker 1>It's really it came at a time when I was like,

0:39:15.960 --> 0:39:17.320
<v Speaker 1>you want to know what it was the way you

0:39:17.440 --> 0:39:20.239
<v Speaker 1>felt compelled to go over there. I was compelled to

0:39:20.280 --> 0:39:23.520
<v Speaker 1>get up on the stage and I didn't sort of body.

0:39:25.160 --> 0:39:27.000
<v Speaker 1>It was like I'm raising my hands and I went

0:39:27.080 --> 0:39:29.680
<v Speaker 1>up there and had a bad experience, but it ended

0:39:29.760 --> 0:39:33.040
<v Speaker 1>up being memorable, and it ended up being really formative

0:39:33.080 --> 0:39:36.280
<v Speaker 1>because I remember looking around and seeing people who didn't

0:39:36.600 --> 0:39:41.040
<v Speaker 1>seem to care about anyone thinking about them and looking,

0:39:41.120 --> 0:39:43.279
<v Speaker 1>Oh they look gay, or they look weird, Are they

0:39:43.320 --> 0:39:48.560
<v Speaker 1>look dark fucked? Are they ugly? Or they look really

0:39:48.640 --> 0:39:51.239
<v Speaker 1>fucking hot? You know what? It was just everyone being

0:39:51.360 --> 0:39:53.640
<v Speaker 1>all those things all at once, and the screaming and

0:39:53.640 --> 0:39:57.120
<v Speaker 1>the lack of the forum being a sign there was

0:39:57.239 --> 0:40:00.160
<v Speaker 1>something about it that made me and I think few

0:40:00.239 --> 0:40:02.680
<v Speaker 1>years later we would discover like, you know, it's weird

0:40:02.719 --> 0:40:04.400
<v Speaker 1>now because it's such a mainstream part of culture. But

0:40:04.480 --> 0:40:06.440
<v Speaker 1>RuPaul's drag race at the time, and when I started

0:40:06.560 --> 0:40:09.960
<v Speaker 1>was like whoa drag? RuPaul saying you're all born naked

0:40:10.040 --> 0:40:12.239
<v Speaker 1>and the rest is drag. You don't have to beat

0:40:12.320 --> 0:40:15.640
<v Speaker 1>in these boxes. That was like a revolution and people.

0:40:15.480 --> 0:40:18.080
<v Speaker 2>Coming out as trans on the show, not giving a

0:40:18.160 --> 0:40:19.040
<v Speaker 2>vocabulary to people.

0:40:19.160 --> 0:40:19.359
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:40:19.400 --> 0:40:22.080
<v Speaker 1>Over time, Yeah, but it's interesting you say that.

0:40:22.640 --> 0:40:24.640
<v Speaker 2>But I feel like, see, you're still holding on to

0:40:24.880 --> 0:40:27.399
<v Speaker 2>some of those there's still some residue from that time,

0:40:27.640 --> 0:40:30.440
<v Speaker 2>like the met shirt, let's say, right, and like the

0:40:30.480 --> 0:40:33.040
<v Speaker 2>American Eagles sort of like aesthetic and I feel like

0:40:33.640 --> 0:40:37.040
<v Speaker 2>what I also really enjoyed about the documentary and Harper's

0:40:37.040 --> 0:40:40.319
<v Speaker 2>story is that like there's this identity with the road

0:40:40.360 --> 0:40:43.000
<v Speaker 2>tripping and like knowing where all the record the best

0:40:43.080 --> 0:40:44.560
<v Speaker 2>record stores are drinking.

0:40:44.600 --> 0:40:46.520
<v Speaker 5>Should he be I'm not going to lose that. I mean,

0:40:46.600 --> 0:40:48.640
<v Speaker 5>that's I consider that, Harper, you know what I mean?

0:40:48.840 --> 0:40:51.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and like knowing, like I think Seth makes a

0:40:52.040 --> 0:40:54.279
<v Speaker 2>joke of like, oh god, the list of the best

0:40:54.440 --> 0:40:56.360
<v Speaker 2>dumpster like dumpsters for you, No.

0:40:56.400 --> 0:40:59.360
<v Speaker 5>One wants my list of places to go in the country.

0:40:59.360 --> 0:41:02.280
<v Speaker 3>I think my favorite filled with unused furniture.

0:41:02.920 --> 0:41:03.320
<v Speaker 1>I love that.

0:41:03.480 --> 0:41:05.520
<v Speaker 5>Oh it's my favorite line. Yeah, I love that line.

0:41:05.600 --> 0:41:07.320
<v Speaker 2>I mean I feel like there you I feel like

0:41:07.320 --> 0:41:11.480
<v Speaker 2>there's this really beautiful connection to like beautiful ruin or something.

0:41:11.520 --> 0:41:11.600
<v Speaker 3>Oh.

0:41:11.640 --> 0:41:14.840
<v Speaker 5>Absolutely, yeah. No, I mean yeah, there's a there's a

0:41:14.920 --> 0:41:17.560
<v Speaker 5>bad side where I felt like a monster, and then

0:41:17.560 --> 0:41:19.800
<v Speaker 5>there's the good side where I see beauty and monsters.

0:41:20.200 --> 0:41:22.920
<v Speaker 5>So they're they're just sort of back and forth fighting

0:41:23.000 --> 0:41:23.359
<v Speaker 5>each other.

0:41:23.480 --> 0:41:23.839
<v Speaker 3>I think.

0:41:24.360 --> 0:41:27.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, have you developed like a queer community. Do you

0:41:27.960 --> 0:41:31.759
<v Speaker 1>feel like you know there's queer people that are it's

0:41:31.920 --> 0:41:32.759
<v Speaker 1>slow developing.

0:41:32.920 --> 0:41:36.240
<v Speaker 5>Now, it's slow developing. Yeah, I have some trans friends.

0:41:36.760 --> 0:41:38.800
<v Speaker 5>It's flow developing. It's one of those things that I

0:41:39.000 --> 0:41:42.280
<v Speaker 5>just am looking for the queer community. That's the community

0:41:42.400 --> 0:41:45.520
<v Speaker 5>is most afraid of for this doc I don't there's

0:41:45.560 --> 0:41:48.200
<v Speaker 5>so many that trans community can get a little snipy too,

0:41:48.719 --> 0:41:50.719
<v Speaker 5>and I was really afraid. And then I did some

0:41:50.920 --> 0:41:53.759
<v Speaker 5>screening just for queer audiences and it was.

0:41:54.440 --> 0:41:55.200
<v Speaker 3>It was incredible.

0:41:55.480 --> 0:41:57.520
<v Speaker 5>I mean you said it was super emotional. Oh no,

0:41:57.640 --> 0:41:59.600
<v Speaker 5>I'm crying. I'm on the cover of The Advocate.

0:41:59.719 --> 0:42:03.920
<v Speaker 3>This is like huge, Like I just like if I

0:42:03.960 --> 0:42:07.000
<v Speaker 3>can toot her horn, she's she was in a Toronto

0:42:07.040 --> 0:42:11.719
<v Speaker 3>film festival, was on a panel of queer trans filmmakers,

0:42:11.960 --> 0:42:15.279
<v Speaker 3>and it was just, yeah, you were like the star

0:42:15.400 --> 0:42:18.520
<v Speaker 3>of the I was not. I they were amazing. They

0:42:18.560 --> 0:42:22.239
<v Speaker 3>were amazing. You were so hilarious and Harper and well

0:42:22.280 --> 0:42:24.920
<v Speaker 3>that I am. And then a big group came to

0:42:24.960 --> 0:42:27.520
<v Speaker 3>our screening that night and Harper was holding court with

0:42:27.880 --> 0:42:30.560
<v Speaker 3>all these young trans and it felt me. It feels

0:42:30.600 --> 0:42:31.160
<v Speaker 3>really good. Yeah.

0:42:31.200 --> 0:42:33.479
<v Speaker 5>I mean, but it's a slow process for me because

0:42:33.480 --> 0:42:36.440
<v Speaker 5>I've been so resistant. So you know, I feel like

0:42:36.560 --> 0:42:38.319
<v Speaker 5>you are so invite me to.

0:42:38.320 --> 0:42:41.640
<v Speaker 3>Your next party, of course, both of you.

0:42:42.000 --> 0:42:44.399
<v Speaker 5>I feel like, well, no, not will Yeah, I don't

0:42:44.440 --> 0:42:44.680
<v Speaker 5>have to.

0:42:44.880 --> 0:42:46.000
<v Speaker 3>I mean I'd love to.

0:42:46.160 --> 0:42:49.479
<v Speaker 5>I mean, I feel super uncomfortable around.

0:42:49.640 --> 0:42:51.680
<v Speaker 3>I make a great stew. I make a great stew.

0:42:52.000 --> 0:42:52.600
<v Speaker 3>Go for the top.

0:42:53.080 --> 0:42:55.719
<v Speaker 1>You guys should do a stew party and watch Rocky

0:42:55.800 --> 0:42:57.480
<v Speaker 1>hornor for the first time, we'll do something else.

0:42:57.680 --> 0:43:01.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we we have to break this the old Rocky horror.

0:43:10.719 --> 0:43:13.919
<v Speaker 2>You're talking about. This fight, you know, between your body

0:43:13.920 --> 0:43:15.640
<v Speaker 2>and your mind is your whole life. And then I

0:43:15.680 --> 0:43:17.440
<v Speaker 2>think you were telling your kids before you set off

0:43:17.480 --> 0:43:20.880
<v Speaker 2>on the trip that this was a way for you

0:43:21.000 --> 0:43:21.919
<v Speaker 2>to come out more.

0:43:22.040 --> 0:43:25.800
<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, yeah, I mean if there's an altruistic reason.

0:43:25.920 --> 0:43:28.960
<v Speaker 5>There was a trans legislation being passed across the country

0:43:29.000 --> 0:43:32.200
<v Speaker 5>that's been very violent and very you guys know, the

0:43:32.239 --> 0:43:35.080
<v Speaker 5>political landscape out there for trans people and for queer

0:43:35.120 --> 0:43:38.080
<v Speaker 5>people in general. But so that was a reason to

0:43:38.400 --> 0:43:40.440
<v Speaker 5>do it in terms of like, oh, this will have

0:43:40.880 --> 0:43:44.320
<v Speaker 5>maybe some use, but also will and I like to

0:43:44.400 --> 0:43:47.400
<v Speaker 5>make weird things. We do a lot of weird projects.

0:43:48.000 --> 0:43:51.800
<v Speaker 1>And I mean, and we're here to promote girl Visions.

0:43:51.920 --> 0:43:55.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, so when will sort of like said lifetime movie.

0:43:55.960 --> 0:44:01.719
<v Speaker 5>Yeah yeah, yeah. So so it's like I should the

0:44:01.800 --> 0:44:04.920
<v Speaker 5>opportunity to do this sort of strange thing. Also, was

0:44:05.080 --> 0:44:08.160
<v Speaker 5>I jumped at it? And then yes, of course anything

0:44:08.239 --> 0:44:10.719
<v Speaker 5>that's helped me because you come out, you know, and

0:44:10.800 --> 0:44:12.279
<v Speaker 5>I don't know if this is through of alterns. My

0:44:12.320 --> 0:44:14.800
<v Speaker 5>experience as I came out and every day is just

0:44:15.000 --> 0:44:17.480
<v Speaker 5>more confidence. So it's like there's a learn there's a

0:44:17.560 --> 0:44:20.240
<v Speaker 5>thing that just you just kind of keep moving forward.

0:44:20.320 --> 0:44:22.439
<v Speaker 5>And I just thought, oh, well, this is gonna really

0:44:22.760 --> 0:44:26.040
<v Speaker 5>just make me just I'm done, you know, And that's

0:44:26.120 --> 0:44:28.640
<v Speaker 5>and that did. It was really wonderful experience. And I

0:44:28.719 --> 0:44:32.440
<v Speaker 5>did go back across the country again and both ways,

0:44:32.520 --> 0:44:34.440
<v Speaker 5>and yeah, it's just easier.

0:44:34.840 --> 0:44:37.200
<v Speaker 3>What I love about working on stuff with Harper is

0:44:37.280 --> 0:44:41.800
<v Speaker 3>that we don't necessarily know that it's going to work

0:44:42.080 --> 0:44:45.640
<v Speaker 3>or connect with a big part of the audience, but

0:44:45.800 --> 0:44:49.359
<v Speaker 3>we know it will definitely connect with a specific part

0:44:49.360 --> 0:44:53.000
<v Speaker 3>of it. It's genuine and it will always feel proud

0:44:53.040 --> 0:44:57.320
<v Speaker 3>of it. And even though that's sometimes hard to in

0:44:57.400 --> 0:45:00.120
<v Speaker 3>Hollywood to push that through the committee, but yeah, if

0:45:00.160 --> 0:45:02.520
<v Speaker 3>you give us a couple of swings, we'll make something original.

0:45:02.920 --> 0:45:03.080
<v Speaker 1>You know.

0:45:03.360 --> 0:45:05.120
<v Speaker 2>I think what you're getting at is this thing that

0:45:05.160 --> 0:45:06.759
<v Speaker 2>I was saying earlier, which is like you don't have

0:45:06.920 --> 0:45:10.280
<v Speaker 2>to understand something or someone in order.

0:45:10.200 --> 0:45:12.120
<v Speaker 3>To appreciate just appreciate it.

0:45:12.200 --> 0:45:14.200
<v Speaker 2>And I feel like that is kind of the beautiful

0:45:14.320 --> 0:45:17.480
<v Speaker 2>thing about this documentary is that like you will, you

0:45:17.600 --> 0:45:19.719
<v Speaker 2>are being such a such a wonderful and I think

0:45:19.760 --> 0:45:21.560
<v Speaker 2>I think this is a perfect example. Study was talking

0:45:21.600 --> 0:45:23.960
<v Speaker 2>about this last night, Like you set this perfect example

0:45:24.000 --> 0:45:27.720
<v Speaker 2>of someone is really opening up to you and peeling back.

0:45:27.560 --> 0:45:30.600
<v Speaker 3>The layers and you are just there to listen and say.

0:45:30.640 --> 0:45:33.040
<v Speaker 2>Not and not be like no, you're you're amazing. Why

0:45:33.080 --> 0:45:35.440
<v Speaker 2>would you feel this way? You're just there to not

0:45:35.640 --> 0:45:38.160
<v Speaker 2>and listen and walk alongside someone. I think that is

0:45:38.760 --> 0:45:42.640
<v Speaker 2>such a good model that isn't really common, yeah, in

0:45:42.760 --> 0:45:46.360
<v Speaker 2>terms of friendship, but I feel like even with Harper

0:45:46.480 --> 0:45:48.960
<v Speaker 2>going into these bars and these spaces that are maybe

0:45:49.160 --> 0:45:53.040
<v Speaker 2>potentially hostile, like there are people who like, upon meeting

0:45:53.080 --> 0:45:55.839
<v Speaker 2>a trans person kind of like put their shields down

0:45:55.880 --> 0:45:58.160
<v Speaker 2>and then there's connection that happens. And that is this

0:45:58.280 --> 0:46:01.320
<v Speaker 2>thing that like you don't have to understand and everything

0:46:01.360 --> 0:46:04.120
<v Speaker 2>a trans person goes through in order to see them

0:46:04.160 --> 0:46:05.560
<v Speaker 2>as a as a human being.

0:46:06.040 --> 0:46:08.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, another thing too, in addition to all of that,

0:46:08.760 --> 0:46:11.200
<v Speaker 1>it's just like the allyship. And you know, it feels

0:46:11.200 --> 0:46:12.640
<v Speaker 1>like we say it so much that it sort of

0:46:12.680 --> 0:46:14.759
<v Speaker 1>loses its meaning. It's sort of like when you say

0:46:14.800 --> 0:46:17.600
<v Speaker 1>like representation matters, like it feels like a like a

0:46:18.280 --> 0:46:21.440
<v Speaker 1>press thing now or something, but it really is important,

0:46:21.520 --> 0:46:23.840
<v Speaker 1>like the allyship, and like there if there needs to

0:46:23.880 --> 0:46:25.880
<v Speaker 1>be a new way to say it for it to

0:46:26.360 --> 0:46:28.000
<v Speaker 1>have impact in a different way. It's just like the

0:46:28.040 --> 0:46:31.960
<v Speaker 1>whole time I was thinking, like this allyship is giving comfort,

0:46:32.520 --> 0:46:35.960
<v Speaker 1>and when there is comfort, there is the opportunity for dialogue.

0:46:36.400 --> 0:46:39.160
<v Speaker 1>And that's why it's important that there are allies, because

0:46:39.200 --> 0:46:41.439
<v Speaker 1>like we need to be able to communicate about these things,

0:46:41.840 --> 0:46:45.640
<v Speaker 1>because it's only when we communicate that, like I don't know,

0:46:45.719 --> 0:46:48.279
<v Speaker 1>maybe someone watching who sees you walk into that bar,

0:46:48.600 --> 0:46:50.640
<v Speaker 1>shoulders aren't going to be up here, you know what

0:46:50.719 --> 0:46:53.279
<v Speaker 1>I mean, because I did drop my shoulders there. When

0:46:53.320 --> 0:46:56.560
<v Speaker 1>you started to see the dialogue, that young man and

0:46:56.719 --> 0:47:00.919
<v Speaker 1>his girlfriend coming over to you, and you know, even

0:47:01.040 --> 0:47:04.560
<v Speaker 1>after he misgenders you, there is the dialogue. There is

0:47:04.680 --> 0:47:06.920
<v Speaker 1>not the thing of there was a misgendering, and then

0:47:06.960 --> 0:47:08.120
<v Speaker 1>the conversation.

0:47:07.880 --> 0:47:11.400
<v Speaker 3>Is over and he was receptive to the correction, right,

0:47:11.560 --> 0:47:12.120
<v Speaker 3>receptive to.

0:47:12.200 --> 0:47:16.200
<v Speaker 1>The correction, not defensive. And also then there was an

0:47:16.239 --> 0:47:21.000
<v Speaker 1>opportunity to share and to learn and to feel good

0:47:21.040 --> 0:47:25.960
<v Speaker 1>about it. And I also think as comedians sometimes and

0:47:26.800 --> 0:47:29.840
<v Speaker 1>probably I think this is something we can all identify with,

0:47:30.000 --> 0:47:35.440
<v Speaker 1>but we're scared of vulnerability because then that would mean

0:47:35.680 --> 0:47:39.520
<v Speaker 1>because you want to know what, the boys are not vulnerable.

0:47:39.920 --> 0:47:42.799
<v Speaker 1>They have always thought of it as and you talk

0:47:42.840 --> 0:47:44.640
<v Speaker 1>about this like I want to get to the point

0:47:44.680 --> 0:47:47.800
<v Speaker 1>where I can see my vulnerabilities as a strength, and

0:47:49.040 --> 0:47:51.640
<v Speaker 1>that is something I think is really important to as

0:47:51.719 --> 0:47:55.080
<v Speaker 1>comedians like call out it's like we're scared of vulnerability.

0:47:55.200 --> 0:47:58.480
<v Speaker 1>And then you know, just I can say from listening

0:47:58.520 --> 0:48:02.360
<v Speaker 1>to our fans like they respond to that, they learn

0:48:02.520 --> 0:48:03.800
<v Speaker 1>from that, and we're.

0:48:03.640 --> 0:48:08.279
<v Speaker 5>Learning from this, learning that vulnerability is a superpower. It's

0:48:08.400 --> 0:48:11.160
<v Speaker 5>like to be vulnerable isn't Because I'm just getting into

0:48:11.280 --> 0:48:14.319
<v Speaker 5>so much deeper conversations with people around me because they

0:48:14.440 --> 0:48:17.440
<v Speaker 5>see vulnerability and I express it. I don't have no

0:48:17.560 --> 0:48:19.880
<v Speaker 5>problem with it. So that's been a that's been just

0:48:20.360 --> 0:48:23.440
<v Speaker 5>a crazy the result of all of this.

0:48:24.640 --> 0:48:27.680
<v Speaker 1>That's the thing I think is it's just it's it

0:48:27.840 --> 0:48:30.480
<v Speaker 1>was that era too, like that sort of late nineties,

0:48:30.560 --> 0:48:33.560
<v Speaker 1>early aughts through the aughts thing, and like whoever was

0:48:33.600 --> 0:48:35.640
<v Speaker 1>saying how they really felt, you know what, I mean

0:48:35.760 --> 0:48:38.239
<v Speaker 1>like there was no emotional comedy out there, Like it

0:48:38.360 --> 0:48:40.840
<v Speaker 1>was not like that, it was it was then you

0:48:41.080 --> 0:48:44.399
<v Speaker 1>learn like it's becomes a core belief that if you're

0:48:44.520 --> 0:48:46.040
<v Speaker 1>like crying, you're weak.

0:48:46.320 --> 0:48:51.480
<v Speaker 3>But now there's this weird pushback yeah, to like this

0:48:51.680 --> 0:48:55.000
<v Speaker 3>new form of masculinity. Like it's it's so crazy that

0:48:55.360 --> 0:48:55.839
<v Speaker 3>what do you mean?

0:48:56.200 --> 0:48:59.920
<v Speaker 5>No, just I feel like politically speaking, on the you know,

0:49:00.400 --> 0:49:02.600
<v Speaker 5>we're getting two kinds of comedy. We are getting a

0:49:02.680 --> 0:49:05.080
<v Speaker 5>kind of vulnerable comedy, and then we are also getting

0:49:05.200 --> 0:49:07.719
<v Speaker 5>the other side, which there's room for all of it.

0:49:08.080 --> 0:49:12.120
<v Speaker 5>Who cares, But you know, you can feel like people

0:49:12.160 --> 0:49:13.800
<v Speaker 5>are like, hey, let's let's get.

0:49:13.640 --> 0:49:14.600
<v Speaker 3>Away from vulnerability.

0:49:14.719 --> 0:49:17.279
<v Speaker 5>Let's get away from You can feel that, and you

0:49:17.400 --> 0:49:20.040
<v Speaker 5>know I felt it in a Texas steakhouse, so you

0:49:20.120 --> 0:49:21.200
<v Speaker 5>can feel it, you know.

0:49:21.280 --> 0:49:22.280
<v Speaker 3>As a queer person.

0:49:22.400 --> 0:49:27.120
<v Speaker 5>I'm sure you guys have that spider sense and I yeah,

0:49:27.280 --> 0:49:29.680
<v Speaker 5>and I can feel it with this kind of kind

0:49:29.760 --> 0:49:33.760
<v Speaker 5>of comic. I'm not against free speech or whatever people

0:49:33.840 --> 0:49:36.719
<v Speaker 5>want to do with their comedy, but yeah, I can

0:49:36.800 --> 0:49:37.200
<v Speaker 5>feel that.

0:49:37.480 --> 0:49:39.000
<v Speaker 3>Sort of backlash that's happening.

0:49:39.280 --> 0:49:41.719
<v Speaker 2>Sure, But I feel like also we had a whole

0:49:41.840 --> 0:49:45.000
<v Speaker 2>like we were on fire Island funnily enough in August

0:49:45.080 --> 0:49:47.279
<v Speaker 2>and we had we ended up watching Zoolander and step

0:49:47.320 --> 0:49:51.279
<v Speaker 2>brother was here last week, Okay was here last week,

0:49:51.360 --> 0:49:53.320
<v Speaker 2>and so we watched those movies and we were just like,

0:49:53.400 --> 0:49:56.880
<v Speaker 2>you know, this is the These are perfect examples and

0:49:56.960 --> 0:49:59.319
<v Speaker 2>like everything you guys you've done together is like, are

0:49:59.360 --> 0:50:04.680
<v Speaker 2>these examples of a comedy that is a sensibility maybe

0:50:05.000 --> 0:50:07.200
<v Speaker 2>of like around masculinity, but it is not like four

0:50:07.280 --> 0:50:10.439
<v Speaker 2>specific audience. It is general in that way, oh for sure,

0:50:10.560 --> 0:50:13.000
<v Speaker 2>and like it can happen, it exists. There doesn't have

0:50:13.120 --> 0:50:16.799
<v Speaker 2>to be this like right division among yeah who it's

0:50:16.840 --> 0:50:18.040
<v Speaker 2>four who's by right?

0:50:18.120 --> 0:50:18.440
<v Speaker 3>Right right?

0:50:18.760 --> 0:50:20.080
<v Speaker 1>Whose idea was Eurovision?

0:50:20.400 --> 0:50:22.000
<v Speaker 3>Oh? Will? For sure?

0:50:22.239 --> 0:50:24.000
<v Speaker 5>Will Will's grown up in Sweden.

0:50:24.160 --> 0:50:25.000
<v Speaker 1>So I.

0:50:26.800 --> 0:50:28.840
<v Speaker 3>Went there. My wife and I went to Sweden in

0:50:29.080 --> 0:50:32.840
<v Speaker 3>nineteen ninety eight, yeah, the first time, and it just

0:50:32.960 --> 0:50:36.319
<v Speaker 3>coincided with Eurovision being and we we were visiting her

0:50:36.400 --> 0:50:39.160
<v Speaker 3>cousin way out in the country in this little cabin,

0:50:39.280 --> 0:50:42.600
<v Speaker 3>and that evening she's like, shall we watch Eurovision the

0:50:42.680 --> 0:50:48.239
<v Speaker 3>Eurovision Song Contest? And I said, of course what And

0:50:48.719 --> 0:50:50.840
<v Speaker 3>I sat there for the next three hours.

0:50:50.960 --> 0:50:51.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, transfixed.

0:50:52.000 --> 0:50:54.759
<v Speaker 3>It was the final. I'm like, what is going on

0:50:55.719 --> 0:50:58.560
<v Speaker 3>what is this thing? And this is spectacular and I

0:50:58.760 --> 0:51:02.439
<v Speaker 3>was like, this would make an amazing movie, and I'm

0:51:02.440 --> 0:51:06.360
<v Speaker 3>sure someone will do it. Yeah, at some point, no

0:51:06.440 --> 0:51:09.360
<v Speaker 3>one wanted to, no one would touch it for twenty

0:51:09.480 --> 0:51:11.360
<v Speaker 3>years and finally, I don't know, there was.

0:51:11.400 --> 0:51:14.239
<v Speaker 5>Just a gap in You told me to watch it,

0:51:14.600 --> 0:51:19.120
<v Speaker 5>and I also I really vibe to. It was almost

0:51:19.200 --> 0:51:23.600
<v Speaker 5>like the situation with what I was saying about Rocking Horror. Yeah,

0:51:23.880 --> 0:51:26.239
<v Speaker 5>it was almost like that. I'm like, oh, okay, yeah

0:51:26.280 --> 0:51:30.360
<v Speaker 5>that's over there. Yeah, this is amazing. And then we

0:51:30.520 --> 0:51:31.240
<v Speaker 5>actually went.

0:51:31.200 --> 0:51:33.279
<v Speaker 3>To one just to kind of like do Rea went

0:51:33.320 --> 0:51:34.040
<v Speaker 3>to Copenhagen.

0:51:34.080 --> 0:51:36.480
<v Speaker 5>We went to Coen and that year. I don't know

0:51:36.520 --> 0:51:38.960
<v Speaker 5>if you're euro Vision fans, but it was and I

0:51:39.440 --> 0:51:44.200
<v Speaker 5>think that this person does he a verse one with

0:51:44.880 --> 0:51:49.200
<v Speaker 5>the dress, the beautiful dress and who we was wonderful.

0:51:51.440 --> 0:51:55.239
<v Speaker 5>Yeah yeah she's in your vision. Yeah, oh my god.

0:51:55.520 --> 0:51:57.360
<v Speaker 3>So yeah that was such a that.

0:51:57.719 --> 0:52:01.279
<v Speaker 5>Just walking around your vision all these queer people. Yes,

0:52:01.600 --> 0:52:03.319
<v Speaker 5>it was the most amazing thing.

0:52:03.640 --> 0:52:06.480
<v Speaker 3>Of course that that initially went way over my head.

0:52:06.520 --> 0:52:09.440
<v Speaker 3>I didn't even know. I was like, oh, interesting performances.

0:52:09.480 --> 0:52:11.000
<v Speaker 5>No, And I'm sure I was like for you in

0:52:11.120 --> 0:52:11.839
<v Speaker 5>that early part.

0:52:11.880 --> 0:52:15.839
<v Speaker 3>I was like, it's so queer, but like there has.

0:52:15.800 --> 0:52:17.600
<v Speaker 1>To be like some sort of spider sense that goes

0:52:17.680 --> 0:52:19.400
<v Speaker 1>off in your head that Will is going to be

0:52:19.440 --> 0:52:23.080
<v Speaker 1>a safe person when he brings you euro Vision a thing.

0:52:24.760 --> 0:52:27.520
<v Speaker 5>Not safe enough to come out because I really wanted

0:52:27.560 --> 0:52:30.319
<v Speaker 5>to come. I really wanted to transition seven, eight, nine

0:52:30.400 --> 0:52:33.920
<v Speaker 5>years ago and like, I don't know what stopped men?

0:52:34.200 --> 0:52:37.120
<v Speaker 1>You know, was the pandemic a pusher in that direction,

0:52:37.239 --> 0:52:37.920
<v Speaker 1>because it feels like.

0:52:37.960 --> 0:52:40.359
<v Speaker 5>That was a lot of people, a lot of people.

0:52:40.400 --> 0:52:41.960
<v Speaker 5>Because I didn't have to go to an office every

0:52:42.040 --> 0:52:45.360
<v Speaker 5>day and it faced people, you know that day. It

0:52:45.480 --> 0:52:47.040
<v Speaker 5>wasn't going to be there where it's like, oh I'm

0:52:47.080 --> 0:52:49.960
<v Speaker 5>wearing a dress now, right, that horrifying.

0:52:50.040 --> 0:52:51.719
<v Speaker 3>That's when I decided to go gluten free.

0:52:52.800 --> 0:52:55.279
<v Speaker 2>Huge, huge, because you realize life is too short.

0:52:55.480 --> 0:52:59.720
<v Speaker 3>Isn't that the same kind of decisions we're talking about? Okay,

0:53:00.200 --> 0:53:02.719
<v Speaker 3>but I shared the moment it wasn't good that you

0:53:02.840 --> 0:53:05.759
<v Speaker 3>did that. Okay, well do you want to cry. We're

0:53:05.800 --> 0:53:06.480
<v Speaker 3>going to cut that out.

0:53:07.280 --> 0:53:15.200
<v Speaker 1>We're going to protect you from the joke. Gluten Oh

0:53:15.280 --> 0:53:17.400
<v Speaker 1>my god, we have such a long way to go there.

0:53:17.719 --> 0:53:21.120
<v Speaker 5>There is a documentary about his gluten Free Trip.

0:53:21.320 --> 0:53:24.160
<v Speaker 1>Yes, coming out, but it's on Roku.

0:53:25.280 --> 0:53:30.440
<v Speaker 3>On September twenty eight. It's a Saturday. Really, it's not

0:53:31.760 --> 0:53:36.279
<v Speaker 3>getting the same press. I'm fighting with Roku right now?

0:53:36.520 --> 0:53:38.120
<v Speaker 3>Is there like we don't know if we can show this.

0:53:38.360 --> 0:53:42.160
<v Speaker 1>It's about your gluten free journey, journey and every time

0:53:42.840 --> 0:53:46.200
<v Speaker 1>he's constantly trying to piggyback it, and that's it's like, stop.

0:53:46.480 --> 0:53:49.880
<v Speaker 3>I keep bringing up in the interviews there's spending dollars

0:53:49.920 --> 0:53:50.319
<v Speaker 3>on press.

0:53:50.840 --> 0:54:02.360
<v Speaker 1>Yes, exactly, maybe time to head into the segment. I

0:54:02.400 --> 0:54:05.800
<v Speaker 1>don't think so, honey. Okay, so this is don't be

0:54:05.960 --> 0:54:09.800
<v Speaker 1>yikesingcause you're gonna when it will right.

0:54:10.200 --> 0:54:11.200
<v Speaker 3>Oh no, I've already done this.

0:54:11.480 --> 0:54:14.520
<v Speaker 1>You do it again. We're gonna do it again. So

0:54:14.719 --> 0:54:16.799
<v Speaker 1>basically what's about to happen is we're going to take

0:54:16.840 --> 0:54:20.919
<v Speaker 1>sixty seconds each to hear something up. It's not that long,

0:54:21.280 --> 0:54:22.120
<v Speaker 1>do it? We do it.

0:54:22.760 --> 0:54:23.400
<v Speaker 3>I can't do it.

0:54:23.560 --> 0:54:25.640
<v Speaker 1>This is I don't want to hear about you.

0:54:26.080 --> 0:54:29.160
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to phone beautiful.

0:54:30.320 --> 0:54:30.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm here, we go.

0:54:31.040 --> 0:54:33.560
<v Speaker 2>I have something, yes, not Rogers. I don't think so

0:54:33.600 --> 0:54:34.960
<v Speaker 2>many time starts now, I don't think so.

0:54:35.040 --> 0:54:39.640
<v Speaker 1>Honey, Natty Light, you crazy bitch, you're talking about Natty Light,

0:54:40.120 --> 0:54:44.040
<v Speaker 1>love yourself, You on this journey, keep going. Let me

0:54:44.080 --> 0:54:48.040
<v Speaker 1>tell you something tastes like lemonade compared to this ship.

0:54:48.840 --> 0:54:51.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm talking to you as a Long Island bitch. Okay,

0:54:51.880 --> 0:54:57.560
<v Speaker 1>I drank a lot of Natty Light bye to In fact,

0:54:57.640 --> 0:55:00.480
<v Speaker 1>I would put Natty Light in a funnel, take three

0:55:00.520 --> 0:55:04.200
<v Speaker 1>beers and once to the chest. I'm telling you, don't

0:55:04.360 --> 0:55:08.560
<v Speaker 1>contain you down this road, bud Light. Please just course

0:55:08.680 --> 0:55:14.560
<v Speaker 1>like anything light, amstell light, some culture, get some culture

0:55:14.600 --> 0:55:17.000
<v Speaker 1>and drinking amsetell light Natty Light. If you don't drink

0:55:17.040 --> 0:55:19.200
<v Speaker 1>it and totally drink it within the first five seconds,

0:55:19.280 --> 0:55:22.120
<v Speaker 1>it turns to devils piss.

0:55:23.040 --> 0:55:24.160
<v Speaker 3>This is bad.

0:55:24.360 --> 0:55:27.040
<v Speaker 1>I will not stand you will not leave this room

0:55:27.200 --> 0:55:30.719
<v Speaker 1>still being a Natty Light fan. Nothing that goes from

0:55:30.800 --> 0:55:33.000
<v Speaker 1>natural light to Natty Light is moving forward in the

0:55:33.080 --> 0:55:36.880
<v Speaker 1>right direction. I don't think so, honey. And that's one minute.

0:55:38.239 --> 0:55:41.400
<v Speaker 3>Ship. That's like a blast furnace.

0:55:41.600 --> 0:55:47.719
<v Speaker 1>I could believe my eyes. Can you explain what you

0:55:47.960 --> 0:55:49.480
<v Speaker 1>like so much about Natty Light.

0:55:49.719 --> 0:55:54.600
<v Speaker 2>It's water, It's not beer, and the appeal drink water.

0:55:56.400 --> 0:55:57.720
<v Speaker 1>Natty Light is just a roads.

0:55:57.600 --> 0:56:01.680
<v Speaker 3>And water twelve you get she is starting to drink

0:56:01.760 --> 0:56:04.040
<v Speaker 3>more wine, and yeah, that's true.

0:56:04.120 --> 0:56:04.759
<v Speaker 5>I can't help it.

0:56:06.280 --> 0:56:08.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what type of girl are you like? Red red Yeah,

0:56:08.840 --> 0:56:12.080
<v Speaker 1>I love it, likes a good get to do. We

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<v Speaker 1>believe that it's genuinely good for you red wine. Like

0:56:15.239 --> 0:56:17.000
<v Speaker 1>they say, like a pregnant woman can drink of a

0:56:17.120 --> 0:56:18.960
<v Speaker 1>glass and a half and the baby will.

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<v Speaker 5>Be In France, they all drink red wine when they're pregnant.

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<v Speaker 5>They don't care. Those kids, all of them grow up.

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<v Speaker 5>They're idiots. That It's true, don't you know, the thing

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<v Speaker 5>about deteriorating the whole.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the thing about Parisians being rude, it's true.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, it's true because of the wine. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>But I also then say, like it could be because

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<v Speaker 1>we're like I'm like so American walking in there being

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<v Speaker 1>like y'all have ketchup.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah it is when we're in Sweden, you see the Americans, Yeah,

0:56:52.600 --> 0:56:57.920
<v Speaker 3>a mile away. Now the Swedes are so like super emotionless.

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<v Speaker 5>I drank out of a Caraffe had a Parisian restaurant.

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<v Speaker 5>They had a craft and glass rimmed mountain.

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<v Speaker 1>You took the craft of the way.

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<v Speaker 5>The way waitress came over and just he just he

0:57:10.160 --> 0:57:12.680
<v Speaker 5>didn't say anything. She just grabbed that craft out of

0:57:12.719 --> 0:57:13.680
<v Speaker 5>my hand, took it away.

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<v Speaker 3>I was in a grocery store once and I wanted

0:57:18.600 --> 0:57:22.840
<v Speaker 3>to buy some carrots and I took two carrots out

0:57:22.840 --> 0:57:26.920
<v Speaker 3>of the bundle of carrots and I brought them to

0:57:27.080 --> 0:57:29.960
<v Speaker 3>the checkout and she went just threw it down on

0:57:30.040 --> 0:57:33.200
<v Speaker 3>the ground, and I just started laughing. She wouldn't because

0:57:33.240 --> 0:57:35.440
<v Speaker 3>I wrecked the bundle of carrots. You know what, You

0:57:35.520 --> 0:57:36.720
<v Speaker 3>gotta laugh? Yeah?

0:57:37.280 --> 0:57:38.920
<v Speaker 2>Sometimes, Oh you know what?

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<v Speaker 3>You know what this is?

0:57:40.320 --> 0:57:41.720
<v Speaker 2>No, I have my own thinks so money, this is

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<v Speaker 2>thank you so much for this, because you're giving me fodder.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, you mind, you mind giving fodder.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't follow anything, my god, I'm fodder oder fodder. Hello, murder, Hello.

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<v Speaker 1>That was beautiful. Something happened to get there.

0:57:59.080 --> 0:58:00.520
<v Speaker 3>There was little maybe a band?

0:58:02.520 --> 0:58:08.680
<v Speaker 1>Are we turn because someone turned my favorite comm Can

0:58:08.760 --> 0:58:11.120
<v Speaker 1>someone turn that up? By the way, My dad texts

0:58:11.160 --> 0:58:13.320
<v Speaker 1>me today one four three He says he knows the

0:58:13.400 --> 0:58:16.960
<v Speaker 1>ling one four three. Katy Perry Katy Perry's new album,

0:58:17.600 --> 0:58:19.920
<v Speaker 1>and it's it's shorthand for I Love You aparent like

0:58:20.720 --> 0:58:25.400
<v Speaker 1>one letter four letters, the old pager thing for three.

0:58:25.880 --> 0:58:27.360
<v Speaker 1>But now Katy Perry has sort of brought.

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<v Speaker 3>It back when I had my ham radio. Yeah, that's right,

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<v Speaker 3>you had, you had you had a Hamm radio operation.

0:58:33.040 --> 0:58:37.880
<v Speaker 3>Oh but Harper downs like Harper Harper brought her CBE radio. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it was all cut out of the doc. You never

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<v Speaker 3>get it. It didn't work.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a lot of the cumming room because in

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<v Speaker 2>the credits you see all these other places.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, two hundred and fifty hours of foot.

0:58:48.200 --> 0:58:50.960
<v Speaker 1>That's crazy to me. The editors deserve no Bel price.

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<v Speaker 3>That's almost all the hours in the days.

0:58:54.240 --> 0:58:55.479
<v Speaker 1>A right, okay, so many hours?

0:58:55.520 --> 0:58:56.360
<v Speaker 3>How many hours? Hours?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, this is bowling Yang's I don't think so, honey.

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<v Speaker 1>It's time starts now. I don't think so, honey. The

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<v Speaker 1>current state of vegetables and produce at the grocery stores

0:59:05.440 --> 0:59:10.040
<v Speaker 1>of America. Why did this person throw out the carrots? Sometimes?

0:59:10.040 --> 0:59:12.280
<v Speaker 2>I don't need seven fucking carrots.

0:59:12.440 --> 0:59:16.120
<v Speaker 3>I'm making one stewed, not seven stews. The recipe calls

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<v Speaker 3>for one care.

0:59:16.920 --> 0:59:18.760
<v Speaker 1>Now I'm supposed to come up with other recipes that

0:59:18.800 --> 0:59:21.000
<v Speaker 1>are carrot forward for the rest of my fucking week.

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<v Speaker 1>Who do you think I am?

0:59:22.080 --> 0:59:25.240
<v Speaker 3>I'm a single, childless day man. I'm cooking for one

0:59:25.280 --> 0:59:26.800
<v Speaker 3>and I like it that way, and I.

0:59:26.920 --> 0:59:31.640
<v Speaker 1>Don't want Why Why is society constantly constantly pushing us

0:59:31.680 --> 0:59:35.040
<v Speaker 1>towards partnership, towards domesticity with other people.

0:59:35.120 --> 0:59:36.680
<v Speaker 3>That's a beautiful thing. That's a beautiful ideal.

0:59:36.680 --> 0:59:38.880
<v Speaker 1>They aspired to. Why am I on planes? It's the

0:59:38.920 --> 0:59:41.360
<v Speaker 1>responsibility on me to change my seat with you because

0:59:41.360 --> 0:59:44.360
<v Speaker 1>you want to sit next to your partner. Yes, make it.

0:59:44.560 --> 0:59:47.840
<v Speaker 2>You know this is this is really small, a larger

0:59:47.920 --> 0:59:49.320
<v Speaker 2>thing about society.

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<v Speaker 3>That is illing us? Is that a verb?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm all over the place to play words today, but listen, listen,

0:59:54.480 --> 0:59:57.080
<v Speaker 1>here's the deal. I don't want to buy one head

0:59:57.120 --> 0:59:59.920
<v Speaker 1>of broccoli when I just need two small florettes from

1:00:00.080 --> 1:00:03.480
<v Speaker 1>my suit. That's one minute. Thank you, cut things off

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<v Speaker 1>for I don't need all of that. The whole thing

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<v Speaker 1>of bananas. Guess what's going wrong? Four of them?

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<v Speaker 3>Four of them?

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<v Speaker 1>And there are so many benefit from if you take

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<v Speaker 1>if you they should have taken the banana apart, I'll buy.

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<v Speaker 3>You because we're knowing.

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<v Speaker 1>Ridiculous. And these carrots are going awaye and they go

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<v Speaker 1>bad way quicker than you think. Cucumbers forget, No, cucumbers

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<v Speaker 1>can be so beautiful. Use them immediately, Thank you, cabbage,

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<v Speaker 1>forget about.

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<v Speaker 3>Keep going, keep going.

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<v Speaker 1>Name. You will not.

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<v Speaker 3>Believe what he can do.

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<v Speaker 1>He can name seriously, five seconds in between each one,

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<v Speaker 1>and wait, with only five seconds between each one.

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<v Speaker 3>This man can list a lot list vegetables.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what's flashing in my head? You guys having

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<v Speaker 1>your pedicure with I want to do a pedicure with Molly.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh god, if you're going to do a pedicure, do

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<v Speaker 3>with Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I love I love the way she the greatest, the

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<v Speaker 1>greatest listener of all time. Wasn't that funny? I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's so funny.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, So when you wait, when you wait someone, wait, wait,

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<v Speaker 3>wait math hold on.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, So your dad right took you to the baseball Yes,

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<v Speaker 4>isn't that funny? Left you in the parking lot? And

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<v Speaker 4>I thought that was so funny of him to do.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I thought, you know, baseball, It's like you

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<v Speaker 4>could be at the game, you could be in the

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<v Speaker 4>parking lot. It's just so funny how you can be

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<v Speaker 4>in so many places at once.

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't that fun? You're seeing Will and Harper today, they're

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<v Speaker 1>so tell them I said hello, and tell them again.

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<v Speaker 3>Again.

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<v Speaker 5>Molly Shannon is who's afraid of Virginia Will. She scares

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<v Speaker 5>the hell out of me because I used to have

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<v Speaker 5>coffee with her and in my journals, I'm writing I

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<v Speaker 5>think I need to be a woman, and I go

1:02:02.280 --> 1:02:05.320
<v Speaker 5>have coffee with Molly and she'd be like my father

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<v Speaker 5>came out in life. She's looking straight at me with

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<v Speaker 5>those eyes like purecing.

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<v Speaker 1>She's always or maybe not.

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<v Speaker 3>It's scary. She's scary.

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<v Speaker 1>Good.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's a perceptiveness. Yeah, absolute, she's she's well.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I think you should go next. I think Harper

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<v Speaker 3>should close this out. Oh Jesus, be so hard.

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<v Speaker 5>I can't follow either one.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course you can't. You do it for a living,

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<v Speaker 3>know you doing this? You guys do this eight times

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<v Speaker 3>a week like a Broadway show.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, I only just realized how hard it

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<v Speaker 1>is to do eight times a week. Thinking about doing

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<v Speaker 1>this eight times a week now, I really now I

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<v Speaker 1>really respect Broadway.

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<v Speaker 3>No kidding.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Hey, Patty Lapone, hats off man, you are a talent.

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<v Speaker 3>H I happen to be listening to the podc this

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<v Speaker 3>is Patty. I so appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to shut it. Okay, here we go, turn

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<v Speaker 1>your phone on. My phone is on in order to

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<v Speaker 1>log the time. This is Will Farrell's I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>so honey, and your time starts now.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think so honey about here's the thing, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>tell us the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think so honey, I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>It's okay.

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<v Speaker 4>Here's here's the book.

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<v Speaker 3>This ties into this ties into the documentary.

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<v Speaker 1>Here comes the tie in.

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<v Speaker 3>Here's a book that my mom literally had a self

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<v Speaker 3>help book on her shelf all right, called It's none

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<v Speaker 3>of my business what you think of me. We got

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<v Speaker 3>that and even as a little kid, that was my mantra.

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<v Speaker 3>If I walked into the room and I got dirty looks,

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<v Speaker 3>none of my business, you're taking me, none of my business.

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<v Speaker 3>And as we went through America fifteen second America, the Heartland,

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<v Speaker 3>the rhythm, the flag, the it was none of Harper's

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<v Speaker 3>business what you think of her?

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<v Speaker 1>Five seconds she goes through this world.

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<v Speaker 3>Loved and herself. Finally and uh oh, I gotta slay down,

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<v Speaker 3>slay down boots.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Yeah, slay down boots.

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<v Speaker 3>Just strike that. No we can't do that, No, no,

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<v Speaker 3>we can't do No, we can't do that. The point

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<v Speaker 3>you're making is important.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but by the way.

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<v Speaker 5>I didn't know there was a k Farrel, there was

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<v Speaker 5>a that K Farrell connection to your openness. There really

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<v Speaker 5>was there human beings, really was. She taught me to

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<v Speaker 5>I mean like a beautiful person.

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<v Speaker 1>She is.

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<v Speaker 3>She made you a beautiful person.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I think? Rup Paul says that too.

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<v Speaker 1>What other other people's opinion of me is none of

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<v Speaker 1>my business.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you know yourself and like yourself to a

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<v Speaker 2>certain degree, that's on. That's on the other person. And

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<v Speaker 2>if you don't like that, that's on. That's on you

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<v Speaker 2>to figure out what to do with me. But you

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<v Speaker 2>don't have to be the one to carry it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's you know what's interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm okay with how bad that. I don't think so,

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<v Speaker 3>honey was I don't care what you think of me.

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<v Speaker 3>There you go, But you know what, that's the cure

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<v Speaker 3>what you think of me.

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<v Speaker 1>It was great.

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<v Speaker 5>Audio was a little spotty during that.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like there's so many times actually it's like

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<v Speaker 1>what you said about touching the hot stove. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>reading comments about you online is like you wouldn't touch

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<v Speaker 1>a hot stove. Every single time I go to the internet,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a hot stove to gauge whether or not I'm

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<v Speaker 1>doing well or people like me. It always is worse

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<v Speaker 1>than when I wake up in the morning and baseline

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<v Speaker 1>feel pretty good.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's right.

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<v Speaker 2>It's always gonna be a hot stove. And why would

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<v Speaker 2>you touch it? Okay, these people gotta go.

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<v Speaker 3>We go all right? Okay, we got on my phone.

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<v Speaker 3>Sounds like like that. It sounds like I just don't

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<v Speaker 3>You shouldn't have said that. This is this though.

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<v Speaker 5>They got it on camera.

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<v Speaker 1>Authenticity, cameras beautiful. That's what people connect when.

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<v Speaker 3>I start the camera, when I made sure they weren't

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<v Speaker 3>on Okay, they.

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<v Speaker 1>Just have a red Yeah, sabotage from boss.

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<v Speaker 5>Give me a countdown.

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<v Speaker 3>Wait wait, wait say that by the way before I don't, honey,

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<v Speaker 3>before we're done today, I have to go through some

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<v Speaker 3>HR stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, problem, what do we do now?

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<v Speaker 3>I just got to get your w twos that HR

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<v Speaker 3>that's accounting what you do, what you do, all those

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<v Speaker 3>cutbacks and one of us getting cut No, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 3>you guys are safe.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, guys are something I know. I'm fucking huge. Okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>never steal this is your I don't think so, honey.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, time starts now j K rolling.

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<v Speaker 5>I hate full attacks on Olympic boxer A man Khalif

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<v Speaker 5>demonstrates the very core of why some people hate trans women.

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<v Speaker 5>Khalif is not trans. No, she's a woman, yes, but

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<v Speaker 5>because she does not conform to Jk's limited.

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<v Speaker 1>And frankly racist ideas of.

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<v Speaker 5>What makes a woman, he repeatedly called her trans and

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<v Speaker 5>referred to her as a man.

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<v Speaker 3>Thirty seconds halfway point, I don't think say I don't think.

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<v Speaker 5>So, honey, wit, No, no, no, and oh I can say, oh,

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<v Speaker 5>I don't think so, honey. Women can be beautiful in

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<v Speaker 5>so many ways. In fifteen j K is not one

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<v Speaker 5>of those women, because when you are hateful and bigoted

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<v Speaker 5>in your heart, you are ugly. I don't even think

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<v Speaker 5>she's a honey.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, we don't even think you're a honey, and you

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<v Speaker 1>haven't been a honey for a very long time. She's

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<v Speaker 1>purely dark.

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<v Speaker 3>So disgusting.

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<v Speaker 2>Although my Kalif was at the Potickeulvanetta show in Paris

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<v Speaker 2>for fashion week. She looked amazing, incredible, word, gorgeous suit.

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<v Speaker 1>What are you just the level of detail, yes, gorgeous, detailed.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a suit as detailed, No and then and

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<v Speaker 2>have you seen all these things about like the mold

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<v Speaker 2>in her house?

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<v Speaker 5>Mold, a black mole, black mole. No, I try to

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<v Speaker 5>keep away from her. Of course they're dangerous and hurtful. However,

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<v Speaker 5>is suing her yea. And the libel laws and England

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<v Speaker 5>are better, the libels and France are better. I just

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<v Speaker 5>hope she gets a fuck.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course j K is a dementor. And you know

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<v Speaker 2>who's also like on this. Not to bring other people

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<v Speaker 2>into this, but Martina never Toulova is also being.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, yeah, is women and trans women in sports conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, all right, everybody, just calm calm down, or

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<v Speaker 2>just even keep it to yourself.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, it's just it's just that we will,

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<v Speaker 3>well we.

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<v Speaker 1>Will, and I will say end on a happiness because

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<v Speaker 1>I know you guys have to go.

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<v Speaker 6>This is just really.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell us that. So what if it was not going well,

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<v Speaker 1>you could.

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<v Speaker 3>A little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, well guess what you bet you have to

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<v Speaker 1>do your own pickups? Then no, because we know you

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<v Speaker 1>have to do pickups for your show, and so now

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<v Speaker 1>you have no excuse. No butter, no, Butter said, on

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<v Speaker 1>a serious note, thank you so much for this just gift,

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<v Speaker 1>like it really is. And I think that everyone is

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<v Speaker 1>going to benefit from watching this and in a major way.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm sure you feel both of you feel like

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<v Speaker 1>you've benefited from doing it. That's what art is all about.

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<v Speaker 1>It's about the sharing, and it's about the education and

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<v Speaker 1>the you know, you do it in such a light

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<v Speaker 1>and beautiful way and the heavy moments are they really

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<v Speaker 1>land And I just I can't say enough about how

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<v Speaker 1>inspired and how much I look up to you both.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you, It's so cool. Means a lot. It's our

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<v Speaker 3>honor both of you, very very very lucky that you're here.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you for coming. And we end every episode with this,

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<v Speaker 3>can I can I get my parking validated? You did

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<v Speaker 3>drive here?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Do you guys do a little wrap up at the end.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like they those two were.

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<v Speaker 1>We have a Howard Stern after showed. Yeah, he does

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<v Speaker 1>an amazing job. He does an amazing job. He's really good.

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<v Speaker 3>He's a huge friend. Yankee shirt.

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<v Speaker 1>What's going to be? To end it? Burn will go

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<v Speaker 1>west Cross didn't.

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<v Speaker 3>Request.

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<v Speaker 2>I saw it twice and so I'm like, and then

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<v Speaker 2>I texted Christals like, you're getting an Oscar nomination?

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<v Speaker 3>And also.

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<v Speaker 1>Of jazzy.

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<v Speaker 3>This is the Jazzy I'll be it by the time.

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<v Speaker 2>February marshalls around anyway. Last Culture Reactis is the production

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