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Speaker 1: Hey everybody, it's me Matt Rogers, letting you know. Tickets

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Speaker 1: are on sale now to see me on tour, the

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Speaker 1: Prince of Christmas Tour, that is, I'm doing my whole

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Speaker 1: album have you Heard of Christmas? Plus a lot more

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Speaker 1: with the whole band all throughout December. Go to www

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Speaker 1: dot Matt rodgersofficial dot com to see me in a

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Speaker 1: city near you and now lost Coach drums.

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Speaker 2: Look mare, Oh, I see you my own look over

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Speaker 2: there is that culture?

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Speaker 1: Yes, goodness, lost ding Dong, lost Cluesa's calling. I just

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Speaker 1: whipped out an expression. You love this expression? I do.

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Speaker 1: I say it often. I was road hard and put

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Speaker 1: way to say like, we're old dogs, We're broken into

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Speaker 1: this podcast, right. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, we

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Speaker 1: we just we're withered and weathered, withered, weathered, road hard

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Speaker 1: I know I'll come up with something better. Did you

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Speaker 1: want to ask about my sports pageantry?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? You're wearing now.

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Speaker 2: People don't know about this, but Matt Rogers, being the

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Speaker 2: Long Island King, he is as a huge fan of

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Speaker 2: Prince is a huge fan of the New York Mets.

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Speaker 2: Major major So you're wearing a Mets T shirt and

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Speaker 2: is that a baseball cap a Mets baseball cat.

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Speaker 1: I'm flipping around to reveal it is actually a Pride

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Speaker 1: themed Mets cab that I got when I threw out

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Speaker 1: the first pitch. I threw out the first pitch last

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Speaker 1: year at the at the Mets Pride game, and I

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Speaker 1: gotta tell you it was a strike when I threw it.

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Speaker 3: You knew this.

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Speaker 1: I went from the mound because you have to understand,

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Speaker 1: my dad is a sports That's right, he's baseball. They

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Speaker 1: really should have gone the extra mile there, but it

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Speaker 1: was it was a streamer. Yeah, I know exactly what

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Speaker 1: Cat was famous for doing in the rainbow balls. Wow

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Speaker 1: already right. Anyway, So it's a huge week for the

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Speaker 1: New York Mets. Explain So I really can't, but I

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Speaker 1: know that it's a big week. In fact, I texted

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Speaker 1: my father to explain. They went to the Mets game

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Speaker 1: last night, and I said, can you explain what's happening

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Speaker 1: with the Mets this week? Because I know it's a

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Speaker 1: big week And he said all these words, and so

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Speaker 1: I know that they're playing the Braves, the Atlanta Braves,

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Speaker 1: to stay contentions. Playoff implications. Oh, there's major playoff implications.

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Speaker 1: Another front runner for title of app We're really rolling

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Speaker 1: at it today, but this is a major week. So

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Speaker 1: I'm wearing my sort of giche and I pray for them.

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Speaker 1: I pray for them. Now, this is something that I

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Speaker 1: want to come back to, which is this idea of

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Speaker 1: you don't have to understand something in order to appreciate

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Speaker 1: and show love. Thank you so much. You know, you

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Speaker 1: know what, I don't know how to do make clothes

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Speaker 1: and we're wearing and we're wearing them. Wow, by the way,

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Speaker 1: I love this, thank you? But when would you want

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Speaker 3: A little cable knit card.

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Speaker 2: Again, it is the second day of fall at the

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Speaker 1: We did it.

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Speaker 3: We beat it.

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Speaker 1: I have to be beat summer. It feels even better

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Speaker 1: than the end of Labor Day weekend, which I famously

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Speaker 2: At the end of summer, but you were corrected summarily.

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Speaker 1: It was controversy, yes, and we caught a lot of

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Speaker 1: controversy on this podcast, and now no one can say

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Speaker 3: Stu season, Stoop season.

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Speaker 1: What is the stew you're gonna make this week?

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna make a beauco, which is a Vietnamese beef stew,

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Speaker 2: lemon grass down, bitch, Oh my god, I'm doing it

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Speaker 2: on Sunday.

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Speaker 3: We're back at work.

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Speaker 1: You know, the top really jumps out when you talk

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Speaker 2: saw one of our guests at seth Myers. I had

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Speaker 2: the privilege and honor of doing Second Chance Theater. Our

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Speaker 2: guest remounted his legendary sketch called Mister Cotter, where he

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Speaker 4: And no one knows what you're talking about.

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Speaker 2: People loved Volta. Yeah, and so it's been on six times,

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Speaker 1: We gave him the jacket hilarious, and.

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Speaker 2: I said, you and Harper have to come on when

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Speaker 2: the doc comes out Rave reviews at Sun Dance.

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Speaker 1: I mean, come on, you know, one hundred percent I'm

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Speaker 1: nottten tomatoes. That's all the percent. That's literally every percent

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Speaker 1: you could get and not for nothing. But you watch

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Speaker 1: it and it works on every level. I mean, it's

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Speaker 1: an incredible story of friendship, of resilience. I mean, you'll learn,

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Speaker 1: you will laugh. It's just got all the greats in it.

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Speaker 1: And I really feel like I had so many emotions

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Speaker 1: watching it. It's one of those like true feats of

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Speaker 1: like it's it's just fucking great.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, it's incredible. Will and Harper. It's not on

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Speaker 2: Netflix September twenty seventh. You simply must watch. We're simply

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Speaker 3: Yeah that our guests.

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Speaker 1: Are here, give it up. Alphabetical, alphabetical, last Nattie, here

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Speaker 1: we go. Welcome and see your ears Welfare on Harper Seal. Now, Yes,

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Speaker 3: Did you drive here?

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Speaker 3: Did you? Yeah? I love driving in New York.

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Speaker 5: Oh my god, it's so easy today too. Today there's

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Speaker 5: some events going on and I don't think it's Mariah Garry.

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Speaker 2: She's performing at the UN General Assembly, which.

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Speaker 3: I always come to Manhattan during the UN General Assembly.

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Speaker 3: you know, and I'm tackled to the ground. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I feel like you're gonna get pushback, Will, because I

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Speaker 1: Made it a joke and we think it's true.

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Speaker 3: I don't like this. Are you listening to this? I'm not.

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Speaker 5: I can't hear anything.

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Speaker 2: Is this a matter of distup between the two of you.

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Speaker 1: What is your greatest role?

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Speaker 3: Thank you God, I love this. This is the greatest

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Speaker 3: podcast ever. I'm what is my greatest role? Human being?

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Speaker 1: Human being like you the way you the way the way.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think people do think you're great, and I

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Speaker 3: Of work in progress. I'm a work in progress.

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Speaker 1: I started stopping because this emotional immediately I didn't want

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Speaker 1: You really felt you were a flop. You didn't think

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Speaker 2: Even though it was the same start week for both

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Speaker 1: It was so lovely. We'd heard the scuttle about that

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Speaker 1: the doc was starting. Was Travis Kelcey, the host, Travis Kelcey.

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Speaker 3: That was the week. Yeah, we were so. We were

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Speaker 2: I think Louren that's the mission Lorn wants.

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Speaker 5: People get out your equipment.

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Speaker 5: clown for a reason.

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00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:17,400
Speaker 3: You know, I had to distract.

446
00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:18,639
Speaker 1: You, flourish, but also hide.

447
00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:20,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, of course, of course. Yeah.

448
00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:23,159
Speaker 5: You know, I think a lot of comedians it's not

449
00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:26,120
Speaker 5: being trans, are being queer or anything. There's a lot

450
00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:30,200
Speaker 5: of things people are hiding in a comedy room, and yeah,

451
00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:32,960
Speaker 5: I think I you know, it's just a very disassociated

452
00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:33,600
Speaker 5: kind of world.

453
00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:34,520
Speaker 3: Really. Yeah.

454
00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:36,240
Speaker 2: I mean there's a moment in the dock that's really

455
00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:39,240
Speaker 2: beautiful where it's YouTube with Forte on a hot air balloon.

456
00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:39,640
Speaker 3: Yeah.

457
00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:41,159
Speaker 1: I love that, man, I love that.

458
00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:43,879
Speaker 3: What a beautiful man to get to that shoot.

459
00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:51,320
Speaker 5: Belfte went through thirty different Yeah, and probably another hot

460
00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:52,160
Speaker 5: air balloon.

461
00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:56,280
Speaker 3: He interrupted, like a ski vacation, yeah, or something to

462
00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:59,600
Speaker 3: meet us on because we knew we were hitting Albuquerque

463
00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:02,800
Speaker 3: at a certain date and like most people, Oh, I'm busy,

464
00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:05,679
Speaker 3: I can't no, no, got out of there. Yeah.

465
00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:09,360
Speaker 2: There's a thing that Harper says where she where you say?

466
00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:12,119
Speaker 2: You know, sometimes I wish I had come out sooner.

467
00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:15,800
Speaker 2: But if I had then I might not have met

468
00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:17,720
Speaker 2: you guys, and I might not have had a comedy job.

469
00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:20,720
Speaker 2: And I wanted to ask about this, what you feel

470
00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:23,800
Speaker 2: about this, Like temporal aspect to being a trans person,

471
00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:26,480
Speaker 2: You've always been a transperson, Yain. But then the moment

472
00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:29,560
Speaker 2: of coming out or of transition, which are also two

473
00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:33,520
Speaker 2: separate things that are chronologically undifferent. Low Si, Let's say,

474
00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:35,800
Speaker 2: how do we like reconcile those things though, I like,

475
00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:39,280
Speaker 2: you've always been this person, yeah, and yet the moment

476
00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:42,159
Speaker 2: of coming out is incredibly consequential.

477
00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:45,679
Speaker 5: Yeah, because I try to kind of reconcile it with

478
00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:47,720
Speaker 5: the sort of transness of my whole life.

479
00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:48,120
Speaker 3: Yeah.

480
00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:50,560
Speaker 5: So, like a lot of the transness seep through in

481
00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:53,440
Speaker 5: so many great ways. And that's just that thing inside

482
00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:56,280
Speaker 5: me fighting me the whole time and finally winning. And

483
00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:59,400
Speaker 5: that's a really joyous thing to think about. Like I

484
00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:03,680
Speaker 5: thought it so hard for so long, or when I say, ah,

485
00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:06,520
Speaker 5: this is all complicated, but yes, I tried to keep

486
00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:08,920
Speaker 5: this thing down and it just kept fighting back.

487
00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:13,080
Speaker 3: So yes, on the other side of it, it's.

488
00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:16,040
Speaker 5: Like to come out in nineteen seventy nine, I mean,

489
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:17,920
Speaker 5: which I wish I could have done. I wish I

490
00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:19,800
Speaker 5: could have come out in nineteen seventy nine. I'm not

491
00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:25,320
Speaker 5: I would have been as beautiful as Hunter's Shafer, but

492
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:30,359
Speaker 5: oh my god, but if I could have come out,

493
00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:32,159
Speaker 5: then that would have been wonderful. I just don't know

494
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 5: if the world would have been the same. And to

495
00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,520
Speaker 5: get to Lorne Michaels wouldn't have hired a trans woman

496
00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:41,359
Speaker 5: in nineteen ninety six. I mean, I'm sure lorn Oh, no,

497
00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:44,159
Speaker 5: of course I would have. No, he's not doing that.

498
00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:46,320
Speaker 5: I mean I could have had a wonderful life. I

499
00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:48,439
Speaker 5: don't know what that life is. I'm not saying it

500
00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:51,400
Speaker 5: was going to be misery or anything, but yeah, I

501
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:54,320
Speaker 5: just I also value all the friends and people I

502
00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:57,560
Speaker 5: made sort of just being half myself, you know.

503
00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:01,680
Speaker 2: All that aside, though, it is I think pretty incredible

504
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,359
Speaker 2: that snel Like has already had a transhad writer.

505
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:05,720
Speaker 3: Oh I love it. I love it.

506
00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:07,800
Speaker 5: I'm looking at the cast and the crew and the

507
00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:11,280
Speaker 5: writers now and it's it's just like, yes, thank you, I'm.

508
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:12,840
Speaker 2: Talking about I'm talking about you. Like anytime you ask

509
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,240
Speaker 2: me like, oh, what's it like with this? You know, oh,

510
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,320
Speaker 2: of course for your sensibility that's broken in, I'm like, well,

511
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:18,960
Speaker 2: I don't think it's broken. I think it's always been there,

512
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:19,440
Speaker 2: like there's.

513
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:24,800
Speaker 5: A second female head writer. I mean, yeah, yeah, goddam

514
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,600
Speaker 5: girl boss about that that you didn't need.

515
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:36,359
Speaker 3: That much way? When is it enough? Gorgeously? Did you

516
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:37,880
Speaker 3: not see that I was a woman?

517
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:40,720
Speaker 1: You seen that?

518
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:43,439
Speaker 3: This is Tina's fault.

519
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:54,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, Tina impressed me to get ahead.

520
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:48,359
Speaker 3: That.

521
00:24:50,000 --> 00:25:03,960
Speaker 1: People magazines coming for you. One thing that really blew

522
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:06,480
Speaker 1: me away is, and it always bows me away, is

523
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 1: when someone has a passion for solo road trips through

524
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 1: the middle of the country. And one thing that this

525
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:15,440
Speaker 1: is part of the ride that I was on and

526
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:19,159
Speaker 1: watching the documentary, was how I was checking in with

527
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:22,520
Speaker 1: my body, like when you guys go into those bars,

528
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:25,040
Speaker 1: those hole in the wall bars. I had like a

529
00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:27,960
Speaker 1: response to it. And one thing that I think was

530
00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:31,080
Speaker 1: my pull from this was not only how beautiful your

531
00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:34,560
Speaker 1: story was and how beautiful your friendship is, but how

532
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:40,639
Speaker 1: afraid I really am of those spaces and how I

533
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:44,520
Speaker 1: feel like whether it's I've been conditioned or I've learned

534
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:48,600
Speaker 1: and need to unlearn, but I myself have a phobia

535
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,199
Speaker 1: of a type of person. I think that is learned

536
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:55,240
Speaker 1: because whether it's a trauma response or something be being

537
00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:58,760
Speaker 1: defensive like and I know that I can code switch

538
00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:00,919
Speaker 1: in those spaces if I wanted to. In fact, I

539
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:02,600
Speaker 1: did it many years to survive in my.

540
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 5: Own road switching today with you like.

541
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:08,199
Speaker 1: This, I didn't, but like any think, the reason I

542
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,119
Speaker 1: even owned this shirt is because I had it a

543
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 1: long time ago. But just the ability to go into

544
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:18,760
Speaker 1: those spaces is now one that you have to think

545
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 1: about in a different way. And I think, were you

546
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,560
Speaker 1: actively nervous those whole times? Did you feel protected by

547
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 1: the cameras and by Will's presence and so was that Yeah?

548
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:28,680
Speaker 1: I mean I guess yeah.

549
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:30,880
Speaker 5: I mean I wasn't as nervous. I mean that bar

550
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 5: going in by myself was a weird experience. I mean,

551
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,200
Speaker 5: I'm looking around at people I grew up with. I

552
00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 5: knew that world a little bit. That felt weird. But

553
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,160
Speaker 5: I also had a camera crew and my buddy Will

554
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:42,200
Speaker 5: was outside, Yeah, and I knew he was going to

555
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 5: come in. So whenever I was traveling with Will, I

556
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:48,119
Speaker 5: didn't have a sort of typical trans experience obviously. But no,

557
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:51,680
Speaker 5: I've been back and forth twice now and I still,

558
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 5: like you, I'm not sure I'm going to go back

559
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 5: into that kind of bar at night, I will go

560
00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 5: into truck stops and the places that I love and

561
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:01,880
Speaker 5: I have and I and I feel way more confident.

562
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:05,159
Speaker 5: But no, I mean and code switching is such a

563
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:08,439
Speaker 5: funny thing. There's a thing in this documentary. It just

564
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,359
Speaker 5: bothers me every time I see it. We're in that

565
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 5: Oklahoma bar and and I'm talking to people and I go,

566
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:18,679
Speaker 5: y'all and uh and and I at this fear based

567
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:20,199
Speaker 5: you know, And it's not It's not a bad thing

568
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 5: to be fearful.

569
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 3: It's safety, right.

570
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:23,119
Speaker 5: And I grew up in Iowa, and I know what

571
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 5: y'all means, and I've said it, but every time I

572
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 5: see it now, I'm like, aren't.

573
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 3: You proud to be out Harper Steel?

574
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:31,360
Speaker 5: Why you don't need to say y'all?

575
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:31,680
Speaker 3: Y'all?

576
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:32,919
Speaker 5: Well, I still do a little bit.

577
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 1: Oh what do you mean? What's what's scary about y'all?

578
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 1: Or what's what is it?

579
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:38,879
Speaker 5: Just I'm just trying to connect with these people in

580
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 5: a way I am code switching. I'm trying to connect

581
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,679
Speaker 5: with them and like, don't hurt me basically totally.

582
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 2: And I but I think there's I don't know where

583
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:48,119
Speaker 2: how this nests together.

584
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:48,639
Speaker 3: But I feel like.

585
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 2: There's there's code switching, and then there's also like I

586
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 2: would consider the y'all a signal just and like a

587
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 2: pretty you know what.

588
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:56,200
Speaker 3: I take that back, You're right.

589
00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 5: I code switching has become a kind of a dirty word,

590
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:02,119
Speaker 5: and it's actually just a to communicate sometimes with people.

591
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,639
Speaker 5: And I'm a hard of myself. But when you do

592
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:09,160
Speaker 5: a great bro, what do you mean I've seen I've

593
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:12,920
Speaker 5: heard your bro, you do a really good very.

594
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 3: I heard yeah, so yeah, so believe me you can

595
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 3: code switch. Wow, you haven't seen this guy do his brother?

596
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:30,680
Speaker 3: Look at him? Whatever? Yeah, I don't.

597
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 1: I don't like attention, bro.

598
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 2: This is the thing. This is the thing about like

599
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 2: straight straight guys can.

600
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 1: Like, you know, wink at each other and be a

601
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 1: little bit whatever. I'll say this. I went to a

602
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 1: straight wedding recently. I went to a straight wedding recently.

603
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 1: But I don't know. God, I'm just like, yeah, so

604
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 1: you get away with it.

605
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 3: But I would never do anyway here.

606
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 1: But here's the thing. I went to a straight wedding recently,

607
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 1: and the straight men who are so comfortable with themselves

608
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 1: are touching are all over me. I think that they

609
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 1: wanted it more than any games because game man are

610
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 1: so aloof yeah, and they're so like like everyone wants

611
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 1: to be like the one, whereas these straight guys are

612
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 1: like whether they're gonna go there because it's something intrinsic

613
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 1: that they don't know about or like whatever. I feel

614
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 1: vibes with them, and I am a I know vibes.

615
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 3: I know.

616
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 1: If I know anything, I think it's because of the

617
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 1: code switching.

618
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 3: Okay, I know what it means to.

619
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 1: Be repressed or press or pressed, and then when something

620
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 1: feels open, like it's like a certain openness, Yeah, they're interested,

621
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 1: like I don't know what it is, and.

622
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 3: It's married guys.

623
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'm just saying there's there's no.

624
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 5: But this is a person who's very comfortable in his skin, skin,

625
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 5: and I envied I always envy that right in people.

626
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 3: You know. Uh, that was so nice. That was a

627
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 3: lovely compliment. Did you write Mark Spitz?

628
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 5: I did not write the Mark Spitz, okay, but that was.

629
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 3: A lovely moment in the dock.

630
00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 1: But also study was telling me last night, was Robert

631
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 1: Gulay that was your last season? Was that all in

632
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 1: the last season? Probably okay, but it was like it was,

633
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:11,479
Speaker 1: it was towards the end. I feel like, Harper, your

634
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 1: tenure on the show is pretty expansive, like you're obviously

635
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 1: there when Will was there.

636
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was there and Amy and all. He's really

637
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 3: wonderful great, I mean, not to mention, really fostered so

638
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:29,200
Speaker 3: many voices at Funnier Die Harper was like, go to office,

639
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 3: creative director. Yeah, and you'd stop by her office to

640
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 3: get an idea or get a note, and she would

641
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 3: she was.

642
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 5: Like, I mean, I'm kind of a genius.

643
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 2: Not see not kind of genius.

644
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 1: You threw it away, but it's true. Oops. I crapped

645
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 1: my pants when you came out with that shirt. I

646
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 1: flashed all the way back. That was one of the

647
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 1: like I do I think I downloaded like that. I

648
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 1: was gonna say kaza like Napster, but not you weren't

649
00:30:57,960 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 1: going to go to prison for it.

650
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 3: Albert nine Stein didn't speak until he was six years old.

651
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 3: When did you first speak? No, I spoke as soon

652
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 3: as I came How are you so much? Talk with

653
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 3: my sexuality?

654
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:16,959
Speaker 2: And then they did, and then they did, is there

655
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 2: a unicycle nearby?

656
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 1: So that that was completely random that was no, there's.

657
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 5: Nothing, there's nothing composed documentary and and that was very strange.

658
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 3: And the and the therapist at the Grand Canyon was

659
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 3: like trying to make amends for Yeah, for.

660
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 1: Those who haven't seen it, he hasn't come out yet.

661
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 1: There are a couple of moments in here where you're

662
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 1: talking about how you would unicycle around your neighborhood.

663
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 3: Your child in front of your childhood home, and.

664
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 1: Then a unicyclist just and you get on the unicycle and.

665
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 5: In that was which bad form I'm going to say

666
00:31:56,920 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 5: for all unicycles out there, for the unicyclist press, that's

667
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 5: gonna do, like the review.

668
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 1: A new one, they're gonna rip the way you went

669
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 1: up that hill too. You had to maneuver some terrain,

670
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 1: the course strength. It was impressive.

671
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 3: That's gotten every screening, that's gotten an applause break when

672
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 3: she gets.

673
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 1: It's the don't rain on my parade of the year,

674
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 1: And there's always one every year, there's.

675
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 5: Always be one. Let's start nineteen ten.

676
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 2: There's you know what I mean, I think there is

677
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 2: some buzz starting about. I mean, obviously the a unicycle parade,

678
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 2: the unicycle parade that's starting up and I think that's

679
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 2: I think don't.

680
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 5: Please, don't please, don't make me go in the.

681
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 1: Bow is hitting at buzz.

682
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 2: For the docks, for the dock, but also a buzz

683
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 2: for and this is a little bit of a spoiler, but.

684
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 1: Started though Kristen has a song, Kristin Wig rights. So

685
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 1: the running bit of like the Chekhov's gun at the

686
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 1: beginning of like, write us a song and then you

687
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 1: almost think it's not gonna happen, and then it happens.

688
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 2: And when it happens it is like the final release

689
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 2: for me emotionally.

690
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 5: I just wonderful. She's just like and that was a

691
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 5: surprise to us. We didn't know that it was happening.

692
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 3: We did the bit and we just called her and

693
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 3: actually hadn't heard anything. We just thought I went checking with.

694
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 1: Josh, well did she write and and the direct Yeah,

695
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 1: and Josh Josh, Josh.

696
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 3: He's like, Josh is like, when do you guys come up?

697
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 3: I made a few more little edits or try I'd

698
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 3: like you guys to just watch the movie one more time,

699
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 3: like okay, sure we come in And then he he

700
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 3: revealed at the end, Wow did Barbon star? Yes?

701
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 5: Yes, so he knew Kristen and was able to go

702
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 5: and cajole her into your writing a song.

703
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 3: But oh my god, I love her her death.

704
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 1: She's so brilliant. And also the song is not only

705
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 1: beautiful but also funny and the jazz I mean, yeah,

706
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 1: you know it goes play music.

707
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 5: We gave her some interesting notes, yes, but yes, that's

708
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 5: part of the bit.

709
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 3: And yet she kind of makes yeah except did she

710
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 3: pull off the country? No? Yeah, yeah, I think it

711
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 3: lived in there a little bit. Take it back? What

712
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 3: d what terrible terrible song? Right off off?

713
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 2: I think we should ask Harper the questions hit. We're

714
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 2: gonna ask you the question we ask all of our guests,

715
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 2: Harper Steel, what was the culture that made you say?

716
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 3: Culture was for me?

717
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 5: I hope this is a good answer, because I really

718
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 5: don't know what you guys mean by them.

719
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:37,879
Speaker 1: That's actually.

720
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 3: Interesting.

721
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 5: But I'm going to tell you so Rocky our pictures

722
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 5: show it wasn't the movie. I was in Chicago. I

723
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 5: saw it with friends. Afterwards. It was at the Biograph Theater.

724
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 5: Afterwards we went to a diner. I'm sitting with my

725
00:34:55,520 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 5: broie friends and incomes for queens. Yeah, and they're over

726
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:05,319
Speaker 5: here and I'm over here. I'm watching this group over here.

727
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,839
Speaker 5: And if I could have split my body in half

728
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:12,879
Speaker 5: at that point, I would have gone over to that table.

729
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 5: But something kept me over on this side, and it

730
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:18,280
Speaker 5: was it was intense.

731
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:20,839
Speaker 3: I could feel it like, oh, there it is over there.

732
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 3: You can reach it.

733
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 5: Nope, can't have it.

734
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 1: So this was after you had seen it.

735
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:29,879
Speaker 5: So I was nineteen eighty one, maybe I was twenty

736
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:30,359
Speaker 5: years old.

737
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, and so you just to be clear you, I

738
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 3: went to Sea Rock Era Pictures show.

739
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 5: The whole night was magical, people up on stage doing

740
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 5: Frankenfurt or whatever, but it was really just being in

741
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 5: that neighborhood sort of Chicago neighborhood.

742
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 3: I can't remember what it is, but Link Park, God,

743
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 3: thank you you have the fairground.

744
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:57,400
Speaker 5: I'm so happy that. No, this is my this is

745
00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:02,399
Speaker 5: my hype, man, I need this h But anyway, yeah,

746
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 5: it was.

747
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:03,880
Speaker 3: It was in this neighborhood.

748
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,800
Speaker 5: And there's obviously where people when you saw the movie

749
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,360
Speaker 5: and then I'm sitting there looking and I don't know

750
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 5: what their gender was or anything.

751
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 3: Just was just like, oh, this is fun.

752
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:17,320
Speaker 2: Over there were there remarks from the bros at the table.

753
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:20,319
Speaker 3: No no, no, no, one was really.

754
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 5: In fact, there was another person who came out later

755
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:23,760
Speaker 5: at the table.

756
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 3: I was in touch with any of those bro.

757
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, yeah, no, no, of course some of those brothers,

758
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:29,320
Speaker 5: you know.

759
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.

760
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 5: So I was hanging out with Lorne Michaels and we

761
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 5: were just like, Hey, the cubs are playing.

762
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 3: The more, I've got an idea for the show. You're

763
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:45,720
Speaker 3: I'm thinking of going back.

764
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 5: Going back, what you should it's gonna be. I told him,

765
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 5: I said, go back, you have to go back more.

766
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 5: And I think it's gonna work.

767
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 1: It needs you.

768
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 3: Yeah.

769
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 5: But anyway, that was my culture moment. I don't know

770
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 5: if that's perfect answer.

771
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:03,840
Speaker 1: In fact, I actually feel a little scene by the

772
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 1: answer because when we were eighteen, one of the Welcome

773
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 1: Week activities that I did, I don't know if you

774
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:11,839
Speaker 1: remember this, but they had the Rocky Horror Picture Show

775
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 1: at NYU and they were showing the movie and it

776
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:15,840
Speaker 1: was interactive and it was one of those things I

777
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 1: had never I didn't I think I was aware of

778
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 1: what Rocky har was. I think I just thought it

779
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 1: was a movie with Susan Sarandon as I want to think, Yeah,

780
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 1: But then in seeing what it was and seeing that

781
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,319
Speaker 1: it was a place for people to truly lit there,

782
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 1: I guess, freak flag flag and access this part of

783
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 1: yourself that was like the animal. And then you know

784
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 1: what's funny is a couple months later, Lady Gaga would

785
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 1: sort of take over New York and the little monster

786
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,279
Speaker 1: thing would happen, and it almost felt like something was

787
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 1: speaking to me on high, don't see these things and

788
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:48,359
Speaker 1: feel these things. And I remember they had a moment

789
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 1: in the thing where they stopped it and they said,

790
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 1: we're going to come out into the audience and we're

791
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 1: going to pick people out of the crowd, and you're

792
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 1: gonna come up and everyone's going to do a fake orgasm. Whoa,

793
00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:57,839
Speaker 1: Oh my god.

794
00:37:58,320 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 3: For some reason, I wouldn't have been able to do

795
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:01,799
Speaker 3: it at all, No way, I don't know why.

796
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 1: But I raised my hand, yeah, and I went up

797
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:09,320
Speaker 1: there and I did a terrible fa orgasm and I

798
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 1: got booed.

799
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 3: One of the time we went down the line. You

800
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 3: still get line everyone.

801
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 1: They lined us all up and there were these people

802
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 1: on like fish nets of course, like everywhere. Yeah, and

803
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 1: like they got to me and I did this horrible thing.

804
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 1: I think it was wearing American ego, you know what

805
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 1: I mean. Like it was like I was in by

806
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 1: like Long Island Drag, very much like this, and I

807
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:30,400
Speaker 1: did a terrible one and they booed me and I

808
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 1: went to sit in my seat and I was like, wow,

809
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 1: I am so far away from being the person I

810
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 1: want to be. Yah, because you have so many checkpoints.

811
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, And it wasn't going to happen. Just wasn't

812
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 5: going to happen.

813
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:43,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've never seen Rocky horror.

814
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 2: Will Farah, can I tell you something? If you sit

815
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:47,800
Speaker 2: will I haven't either.

816
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 5: Okay, okay, because I was about to say, when Will

817
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 5: sees it, he will come.

818
00:38:51,960 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 3: Out Ah probably yeah, chance it will you guys, I

819
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:01,839
Speaker 3: wasn't number Wow.

820
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:03,879
Speaker 1: Wait, I can't believe you've never seen it either.

821
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 3: I remember it was necessary, really, it was at a

822
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:08,839
Speaker 3: certain point.

823
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:15,800
Speaker 1: It's really it came at a time when I was like,

824
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:17,320
Speaker 1: you want to know what it was the way you

825
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 1: felt compelled to go over there. I was compelled to

826
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 1: get up on the stage and I didn't sort of body.

827
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 1: It was like I'm raising my hands and I went

828
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 1: up there and had a bad experience, but it ended

829
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 1: up being memorable, and it ended up being really formative

830
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:36,280
Speaker 1: because I remember looking around and seeing people who didn't

831
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 1: seem to care about anyone thinking about them and looking,

832
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 1: Oh they look gay, or they look weird, Are they

833
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 1: look dark fucked? Are they ugly? Or they look really

834
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 1: fucking hot? You know what? It was just everyone being

835
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 1: all those things all at once, and the screaming and

836
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 1: the lack of the forum being a sign there was

837
00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 1: something about it that made me and I think few

838
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 1: years later we would discover like, you know, it's weird

839
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:04,400
Speaker 1: now because it's such a mainstream part of culture. But

840
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 1: RuPaul's drag race at the time, and when I started

841
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 1: was like whoa drag? RuPaul saying you're all born naked

842
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 1: and the rest is drag. You don't have to beat

843
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 1: in these boxes. That was like a revolution and people.

844
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 2: Coming out as trans on the show, not giving a

845
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 2: vocabulary to people.

846
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:19,359
Speaker 3: Yeah.

847
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 1: Over time, Yeah, but it's interesting you say that.

848
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 2: But I feel like, see, you're still holding on to

849
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:27,399
Speaker 2: some of those there's still some residue from that time,

850
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 2: like the met shirt, let's say, right, and like the

851
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 2: American Eagles sort of like aesthetic and I feel like

852
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 2: what I also really enjoyed about the documentary and Harper's

853
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:40,319
Speaker 2: story is that like there's this identity with the road

854
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 2: tripping and like knowing where all the record the best

855
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 2: record stores are drinking.

856
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 5: Should he be I'm not going to lose that. I mean,

857
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 5: that's I consider that, Harper, you know what I mean?

858
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, and like knowing, like I think Seth makes a

859
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 2: joke of like, oh god, the list of the best

860
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:56,360
Speaker 2: dumpster like dumpsters for you, No.

861
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:59,360
Speaker 5: One wants my list of places to go in the country.

862
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:02,280
Speaker 3: I think my favorite filled with unused furniture.

863
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:03,320
Speaker 1: I love that.

864
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 5: Oh it's my favorite line. Yeah, I love that line.

865
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:07,320
Speaker 2: I mean I feel like there you I feel like

866
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 2: there's this really beautiful connection to like beautiful ruin or something.

867
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 3: Oh.

868
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:14,840
Speaker 5: Absolutely, yeah. No, I mean yeah, there's a there's a

869
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 5: bad side where I felt like a monster, and then

870
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:19,800
Speaker 5: there's the good side where I see beauty and monsters.

871
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 5: So they're they're just sort of back and forth fighting

872
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:23,359
Speaker 5: each other.

873
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:23,839
Speaker 3: I think.

874
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:27,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, have you developed like a queer community. Do you

875
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 1: feel like you know there's queer people that are it's

876
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 1: slow developing.

877
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:36,240
Speaker 5: Now, it's slow developing. Yeah, I have some trans friends.

878
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:38,800
Speaker 5: It's flow developing. It's one of those things that I

879
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:42,280
Speaker 5: just am looking for the queer community. That's the community

880
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 5: is most afraid of for this doc I don't there's

881
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 5: so many that trans community can get a little snipy too,

882
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 5: and I was really afraid. And then I did some

883
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 5: screening just for queer audiences and it was.

884
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 3: It was incredible.

885
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 5: I mean you said it was super emotional. Oh no,

886
00:41:57,640 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 5: I'm crying. I'm on the cover of The Advocate.

887
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:03,920
Speaker 3: This is like huge, Like I just like if I

888
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 3: can toot her horn, she's she was in a Toronto

889
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 3: film festival, was on a panel of queer trans filmmakers,

890
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:15,279
Speaker 3: and it was just, yeah, you were like the star

891
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 3: of the I was not. I they were amazing. They

892
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 3: were amazing. You were so hilarious and Harper and well

893
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 3: that I am. And then a big group came to

894
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 3: our screening that night and Harper was holding court with

895
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 3: all these young trans and it felt me. It feels

896
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 3: really good. Yeah.

897
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:33,479
Speaker 5: I mean, but it's a slow process for me because

898
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 5: I've been so resistant. So you know, I feel like

899
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:38,319
Speaker 5: you are so invite me to.

900
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 3: Your next party, of course, both of you.

901
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:44,399
Speaker 5: I feel like, well, no, not will Yeah, I don't

902
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 5: have to.

903
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 3: I mean I'd love to.

904
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:49,479
Speaker 5: I mean, I feel super uncomfortable around.

905
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 3: I make a great stew. I make a great stew.

906
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 3: Go for the top.

907
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 1: You guys should do a stew party and watch Rocky

908
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 1: hornor for the first time, we'll do something else.

909
00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, we we have to break this the old Rocky horror.

910
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:13,919
Speaker 2: You're talking about. This fight, you know, between your body

911
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 2: and your mind is your whole life. And then I

912
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 2: think you were telling your kids before you set off

913
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:20,880
Speaker 2: on the trip that this was a way for you

914
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:21,919
Speaker 2: to come out more.

915
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:25,800
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, I mean if there's an altruistic reason.

916
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 5: There was a trans legislation being passed across the country

917
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 5: that's been very violent and very you guys know, the

918
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 5: political landscape out there for trans people and for queer

919
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 5: people in general. But so that was a reason to

920
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 5: do it in terms of like, oh, this will have

921
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:44,320
Speaker 5: maybe some use, but also will and I like to

922
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 5: make weird things. We do a lot of weird projects.

923
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:51,800
Speaker 1: And I mean, and we're here to promote girl Visions.

924
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, so when will sort of like said lifetime movie.

925
00:43:55,960 --> 00:44:01,719
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, yeah. So so it's like I should the

926
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 5: opportunity to do this sort of strange thing. Also, was

927
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 5: I jumped at it? And then yes, of course anything

928
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 5: that's helped me because you come out, you know, and

929
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:12,279
Speaker 5: I don't know if this is through of alterns. My

930
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:14,800
Speaker 5: experience as I came out and every day is just

931
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 5: more confidence. So it's like there's a learn there's a

932
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:20,240
Speaker 5: thing that just you just kind of keep moving forward.

933
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:22,439
Speaker 5: And I just thought, oh, well, this is gonna really

934
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 5: just make me just I'm done, you know, And that's

935
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 5: and that did. It was really wonderful experience. And I

936
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:32,440
Speaker 5: did go back across the country again and both ways,

937
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 5: and yeah, it's just easier.

938
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 3: What I love about working on stuff with Harper is

939
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:41,800
Speaker 3: that we don't necessarily know that it's going to work

940
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 3: or connect with a big part of the audience, but

941
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:49,359
Speaker 3: we know it will definitely connect with a specific part

942
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 3: of it. It's genuine and it will always feel proud

943
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:57,320
Speaker 3: of it. And even though that's sometimes hard to in

944
00:44:57,400 --> 00:45:00,120
Speaker 3: Hollywood to push that through the committee, but yeah, if

945
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 3: you give us a couple of swings, we'll make something original.

946
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 1: You know.

947
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 2: I think what you're getting at is this thing that

948
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:06,759
Speaker 2: I was saying earlier, which is like you don't have

949
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:10,280
Speaker 2: to understand something or someone in order.

950
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 3: To appreciate just appreciate it.

951
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 2: And I feel like that is kind of the beautiful

952
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 2: thing about this documentary is that like you will, you

953
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:19,719
Speaker 2: are being such a such a wonderful and I think

954
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 2: I think this is a perfect example. Study was talking

955
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 2: about this last night, Like you set this perfect example

956
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:27,720
Speaker 2: of someone is really opening up to you and peeling back.

957
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 3: The layers and you are just there to listen and say.

958
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 2: Not and not be like no, you're you're amazing. Why

959
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 2: would you feel this way? You're just there to not

960
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 2: and listen and walk alongside someone. I think that is

961
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 2: such a good model that isn't really common, yeah, in

962
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:46,360
Speaker 2: terms of friendship, but I feel like even with Harper

963
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 2: going into these bars and these spaces that are maybe

964
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 2: potentially hostile, like there are people who like, upon meeting

965
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:55,839
Speaker 2: a trans person kind of like put their shields down

966
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 2: and then there's connection that happens. And that is this

967
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:01,320
Speaker 2: thing that like you don't have to understand and everything

968
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 2: a trans person goes through in order to see them

969
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 2: as a as a human being.

970
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, another thing too, in addition to all of that,

971
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 1: it's just like the allyship. And you know, it feels

972
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 1: like we say it so much that it sort of

973
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 1: loses its meaning. It's sort of like when you say

974
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 1: like representation matters, like it feels like a like a

975
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:21,440
Speaker 1: press thing now or something, but it really is important,

976
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:23,840
Speaker 1: like the allyship, and like there if there needs to

977
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:25,880
Speaker 1: be a new way to say it for it to

978
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 1: have impact in a different way. It's just like the

979
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:31,960
Speaker 1: whole time I was thinking, like this allyship is giving comfort,

980
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 1: and when there is comfort, there is the opportunity for dialogue.

981
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 1: And that's why it's important that there are allies, because

982
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:41,439
Speaker 1: like we need to be able to communicate about these things,

983
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 1: because it's only when we communicate that, like I don't know,

984
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:48,279
Speaker 1: maybe someone watching who sees you walk into that bar,

985
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 1: shoulders aren't going to be up here, you know what

986
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:53,279
Speaker 1: I mean, because I did drop my shoulders there. When

987
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 1: you started to see the dialogue, that young man and

988
00:46:56,719 --> 00:47:00,919
Speaker 1: his girlfriend coming over to you, and you know, even

989
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 1: after he misgenders you, there is the dialogue. There is

990
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:06,920
Speaker 1: not the thing of there was a misgendering, and then

991
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 1: the conversation.

992
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:11,400
Speaker 3: Is over and he was receptive to the correction, right,

993
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 3: receptive to.

994
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 1: The correction, not defensive. And also then there was an

995
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 1: opportunity to share and to learn and to feel good

996
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 1: about it. And I also think as comedians sometimes and

997
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:29,840
Speaker 1: probably I think this is something we can all identify with,

998
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:35,440
Speaker 1: but we're scared of vulnerability because then that would mean

999
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 1: because you want to know what, the boys are not vulnerable.

1000
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:42,799
Speaker 1: They have always thought of it as and you talk

1001
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 1: about this like I want to get to the point

1002
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:47,800
Speaker 1: where I can see my vulnerabilities as a strength, and

1003
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 1: that is something I think is really important to as

1004
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 1: comedians like call out it's like we're scared of vulnerability.

1005
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 1: And then you know, just I can say from listening

1006
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:02,360
Speaker 1: to our fans like they respond to that, they learn

1007
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:03,800
Speaker 1: from that, and we're.

1008
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 5: Learning from this, learning that vulnerability is a superpower. It's

1009
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 5: like to be vulnerable isn't Because I'm just getting into

1010
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:14,319
Speaker 5: so much deeper conversations with people around me because they

1011
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 5: see vulnerability and I express it. I don't have no

1012
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:19,880
Speaker 5: problem with it. So that's been a that's been just

1013
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 5: a crazy the result of all of this.

1014
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 1: That's the thing I think is it's just it's it

1015
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 1: was that era too, like that sort of late nineties,

1016
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:33,560
Speaker 1: early aughts through the aughts thing, and like whoever was

1017
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 1: saying how they really felt, you know what, I mean

1018
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:38,239
Speaker 1: like there was no emotional comedy out there, Like it

1019
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:40,840
Speaker 1: was not like that, it was it was then you

1020
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:44,399
Speaker 1: learn like it's becomes a core belief that if you're

1021
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 1: like crying, you're weak.

1022
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 3: But now there's this weird pushback yeah, to like this

1023
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 3: new form of masculinity. Like it's it's so crazy that

1024
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:55,839
Speaker 3: what do you mean?

1025
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 5: No, just I feel like politically speaking, on the you know,

1026
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 5: we're getting two kinds of comedy. We are getting a

1027
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 5: kind of vulnerable comedy, and then we are also getting

1028
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:07,719
Speaker 5: the other side, which there's room for all of it.

1029
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 5: Who cares, But you know, you can feel like people

1030
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:13,800
Speaker 5: are like, hey, let's let's get.

1031
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 3: Away from vulnerability.

1032
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:17,279
Speaker 5: Let's get away from You can feel that, and you

1033
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 5: know I felt it in a Texas steakhouse, so you

1034
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 5: can feel it, you know.

1035
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:22,280
Speaker 3: As a queer person.

1036
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 5: I'm sure you guys have that spider sense and I yeah,

1037
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 5: and I can feel it with this kind of kind

1038
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:33,760
Speaker 5: of comic. I'm not against free speech or whatever people

1039
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:36,719
Speaker 5: want to do with their comedy, but yeah, I can

1040
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 5: feel that.

1041
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 3: Sort of backlash that's happening.

1042
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:41,719
Speaker 2: Sure, But I feel like also we had a whole

1043
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 2: like we were on fire Island funnily enough in August

1044
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:47,279
Speaker 2: and we had we ended up watching Zoolander and step

1045
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:51,279
Speaker 2: brother was here last week, Okay was here last week,

1046
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:53,320
Speaker 2: and so we watched those movies and we were just like,

1047
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:56,880
Speaker 2: you know, this is the These are perfect examples and

1048
00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:59,319
Speaker 2: like everything you guys you've done together is like, are

1049
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 2: these examples of a comedy that is a sensibility maybe

1050
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 2: of like around masculinity, but it is not like four

1051
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:10,439
Speaker 2: specific audience. It is general in that way, oh for sure,

1052
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 2: and like it can happen, it exists. There doesn't have

1053
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:16,799
Speaker 2: to be this like right division among yeah who it's

1054
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 2: four who's by right?

1055
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 3: Right right?

1056
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 1: Whose idea was Eurovision?

1057
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 3: Oh? Will? For sure?

1058
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 5: Will Will's grown up in Sweden.

1059
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 1: So I.

1060
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:28,840
Speaker 3: Went there. My wife and I went to Sweden in

1061
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:32,840
Speaker 3: nineteen ninety eight, yeah, the first time, and it just

1062
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:36,319
Speaker 3: coincided with Eurovision being and we we were visiting her

1063
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:39,160
Speaker 3: cousin way out in the country in this little cabin,

1064
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 3: and that evening she's like, shall we watch Eurovision the

1065
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:48,239
Speaker 3: Eurovision Song Contest? And I said, of course what And

1066
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:50,840
Speaker 3: I sat there for the next three hours.

1067
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:51,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, transfixed.

1068
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:54,759
Speaker 3: It was the final. I'm like, what is going on

1069
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:58,560
Speaker 3: what is this thing? And this is spectacular and I

1070
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:02,439
Speaker 3: was like, this would make an amazing movie, and I'm

1071
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:06,360
Speaker 3: sure someone will do it. Yeah, at some point, no

1072
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:09,360
Speaker 3: one wanted to, no one would touch it for twenty

1073
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:11,360
Speaker 3: years and finally, I don't know, there was.

1074
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:14,239
Speaker 5: Just a gap in You told me to watch it,

1075
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 5: and I also I really vibe to. It was almost

1076
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 5: like the situation with what I was saying about Rocking Horror. Yeah,

1077
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:26,239
Speaker 5: it was almost like that. I'm like, oh, okay, yeah

1078
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:30,360
Speaker 5: that's over there. Yeah, this is amazing. And then we

1079
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:31,240
Speaker 5: actually went.

1080
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:33,279
Speaker 3: To one just to kind of like do Rea went

1081
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 3: to Copenhagen.

1082
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:36,480
Speaker 5: We went to Coen and that year. I don't know

1083
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:38,960
Speaker 5: if you're euro Vision fans, but it was and I

1084
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 5: think that this person does he a verse one with

1085
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 5: the dress, the beautiful dress and who we was wonderful.

1086
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:55,239
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah she's in your vision. Yeah, oh my god.

1087
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:57,360
Speaker 3: So yeah that was such a that.

1088
00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:01,279
Speaker 5: Just walking around your vision all these queer people. Yes,

1089
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:03,319
Speaker 5: it was the most amazing thing.

1090
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 3: Of course that that initially went way over my head.

1091
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:09,440
Speaker 3: I didn't even know. I was like, oh, interesting performances.

1092
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 5: No, And I'm sure I was like for you in

1093
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:11,839
Speaker 5: that early part.

1094
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:15,839
Speaker 3: I was like, it's so queer, but like there has.

1095
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 1: To be like some sort of spider sense that goes

1096
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:19,400
Speaker 1: off in your head that Will is going to be

1097
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 1: a safe person when he brings you euro Vision a thing.

1098
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 5: Not safe enough to come out because I really wanted

1099
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:30,319
Speaker 5: to come. I really wanted to transition seven, eight, nine

1100
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:33,920
Speaker 5: years ago and like, I don't know what stopped men?

1101
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 1: You know, was the pandemic a pusher in that direction,

1102
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:37,920
Speaker 1: because it feels like.

1103
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:40,359
Speaker 5: That was a lot of people, a lot of people.

1104
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:41,960
Speaker 5: Because I didn't have to go to an office every

1105
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:45,360
Speaker 5: day and it faced people, you know that day. It

1106
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 5: wasn't going to be there where it's like, oh I'm

1107
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:49,960
Speaker 5: wearing a dress now, right, that horrifying.

1108
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:51,719
Speaker 3: That's when I decided to go gluten free.

1109
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:55,279
Speaker 2: Huge, huge, because you realize life is too short.

1110
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:59,720
Speaker 3: Isn't that the same kind of decisions we're talking about? Okay,

1111
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:02,719
Speaker 3: but I shared the moment it wasn't good that you

1112
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:05,759
Speaker 3: did that. Okay, well do you want to cry. We're

1113
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:06,480
Speaker 3: going to cut that out.

1114
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 1: We're going to protect you from the joke. Gluten Oh

1115
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:17,400
Speaker 1: my god, we have such a long way to go there.

1116
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 5: There is a documentary about his gluten Free Trip.

1117
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 1: Yes, coming out, but it's on Roku.

1118
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 3: On September twenty eight. It's a Saturday. Really, it's not

1119
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:36,279
Speaker 3: getting the same press. I'm fighting with Roku right now?

1120
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:38,120
Speaker 3: Is there like we don't know if we can show this.

1121
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 1: It's about your gluten free journey, journey and every time

1122
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:46,200
Speaker 1: he's constantly trying to piggyback it, and that's it's like, stop.

1123
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:49,880
Speaker 3: I keep bringing up in the interviews there's spending dollars

1124
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:50,319
Speaker 3: on press.

1125
00:53:50,840 --> 00:54:02,360
Speaker 1: Yes, exactly, maybe time to head into the segment. I

1126
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:05,800
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey. Okay, so this is don't be

1127
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:09,800
Speaker 1: yikesingcause you're gonna when it will right.

1128
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 3: Oh no, I've already done this.

1129
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 1: You do it again. We're gonna do it again. So

1130
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:16,799
Speaker 1: basically what's about to happen is we're going to take

1131
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:20,919
Speaker 1: sixty seconds each to hear something up. It's not that long,

1132
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:22,120
Speaker 1: do it? We do it.

1133
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:23,400
Speaker 3: I can't do it.

1134
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:25,640
Speaker 1: This is I don't want to hear about you.

1135
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:29,160
Speaker 3: I'm going to phone beautiful.

1136
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:30,880
Speaker 1: I'm here, we go.

1137
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 2: I have something, yes, not Rogers. I don't think so

1138
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:34,960
Speaker 2: many time starts now, I don't think so.

1139
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:39,640
Speaker 1: Honey, Natty Light, you crazy bitch, you're talking about Natty Light,

1140
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:44,040
Speaker 1: love yourself, You on this journey, keep going. Let me

1141
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 1: tell you something tastes like lemonade compared to this ship.

1142
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 1: I'm talking to you as a Long Island bitch. Okay,

1143
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:57,560
Speaker 1: I drank a lot of Natty Light bye to In fact,

1144
00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:00,480
Speaker 1: I would put Natty Light in a funnel, take three

1145
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:04,200
Speaker 1: beers and once to the chest. I'm telling you, don't

1146
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:08,560
Speaker 1: contain you down this road, bud Light. Please just course

1147
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:14,560
Speaker 1: like anything light, amstell light, some culture, get some culture

1148
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 1: and drinking amsetell light Natty Light. If you don't drink

1149
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:19,200
Speaker 1: it and totally drink it within the first five seconds,

1150
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 1: it turns to devils piss.

1151
00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:24,160
Speaker 3: This is bad.

1152
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 1: I will not stand you will not leave this room

1153
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:30,719
Speaker 1: still being a Natty Light fan. Nothing that goes from

1154
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 1: natural light to Natty Light is moving forward in the

1155
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:36,880
Speaker 1: right direction. I don't think so, honey. And that's one minute.

1156
00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:41,400
Speaker 3: Ship. That's like a blast furnace.

1157
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:47,719
Speaker 1: I could believe my eyes. Can you explain what you

1158
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:49,480
Speaker 1: like so much about Natty Light.

1159
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:54,600
Speaker 2: It's water, It's not beer, and the appeal drink water.

1160
00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:57,720
Speaker 1: Natty Light is just a roads.

1161
00:55:57,600 --> 00:56:01,680
Speaker 3: And water twelve you get she is starting to drink

1162
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 3: more wine, and yeah, that's true.

1163
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:04,759
Speaker 5: I can't help it.

1164
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:08,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, what type of girl are you like? Red red Yeah,

1165
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 1: I love it, likes a good get to do. We

1166
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:14,880
Speaker 1: believe that it's genuinely good for you red wine. Like

1167
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 1: they say, like a pregnant woman can drink of a

1168
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:18,960
Speaker 1: glass and a half and the baby will.

1169
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:21,800
Speaker 5: Be In France, they all drink red wine when they're pregnant.

1170
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:24,440
Speaker 5: They don't care. Those kids, all of them grow up.

1171
00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 5: They're idiots. That It's true, don't you know, the thing

1172
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:32,480
Speaker 5: about deteriorating the whole.

1173
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:36,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, the thing about Parisians being rude, it's true.

1174
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's true because of the wine. Yeah.

1175
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:41,600
Speaker 1: But I also then say, like it could be because

1176
00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:44,120
Speaker 1: we're like I'm like so American walking in there being

1177
00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:45,280
Speaker 1: like y'all have ketchup.

1178
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:52,319
Speaker 3: Yeah it is when we're in Sweden, you see the Americans, Yeah,

1179
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:57,920
Speaker 3: a mile away. Now the Swedes are so like super emotionless.

1180
00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:02,400
Speaker 5: I drank out of a Caraffe had a Parisian restaurant.

1181
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:04,880
Speaker 5: They had a craft and glass rimmed mountain.

1182
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:06,879
Speaker 1: You took the craft of the way.

1183
00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:10,120
Speaker 5: The way waitress came over and just he just he

1184
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:12,680
Speaker 5: didn't say anything. She just grabbed that craft out of

1185
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:13,680
Speaker 5: my hand, took it away.

1186
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:18,320
Speaker 3: I was in a grocery store once and I wanted

1187
00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:22,840
Speaker 3: to buy some carrots and I took two carrots out

1188
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:26,920
Speaker 3: of the bundle of carrots and I brought them to

1189
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:29,960
Speaker 3: the checkout and she went just threw it down on

1190
00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:33,200
Speaker 3: the ground, and I just started laughing. She wouldn't because

1191
00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:35,440
Speaker 3: I wrecked the bundle of carrots. You know what, You

1192
00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:36,720
Speaker 3: gotta laugh? Yeah?

1193
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:38,920
Speaker 2: Sometimes, Oh you know what?

1194
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:39,560
Speaker 3: You know what this is?

1195
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:41,720
Speaker 2: No, I have my own thinks so money, this is

1196
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:44,080
Speaker 2: thank you so much for this, because you're giving me fodder.

1197
00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:48,080
Speaker 1: Okay, you mind, you mind giving fodder.

1198
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:55,160
Speaker 3: I can't follow anything, my god, I'm fodder oder fodder. Hello, murder, Hello.

1199
00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:59,040
Speaker 1: That was beautiful. Something happened to get there.

1200
00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 3: There was little maybe a band?

1201
00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:08,680
Speaker 1: Are we turn because someone turned my favorite comm Can

1202
00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:11,120
Speaker 1: someone turn that up? By the way, My dad texts

1203
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:13,320
Speaker 1: me today one four three He says he knows the

1204
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:16,960
Speaker 1: ling one four three. Katy Perry Katy Perry's new album,

1205
00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:19,920
Speaker 1: and it's it's shorthand for I Love You aparent like

1206
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:25,400
Speaker 1: one letter four letters, the old pager thing for three.

1207
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:27,360
Speaker 1: But now Katy Perry has sort of brought.

1208
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:30,440
Speaker 3: It back when I had my ham radio. Yeah, that's right,

1209
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:32,480
Speaker 3: you had, you had you had a Hamm radio operation.

1210
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:37,880
Speaker 3: Oh but Harper downs like Harper Harper brought her CBE radio. Yeah,

1211
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:40,640
Speaker 3: it was all cut out of the doc. You never

1212
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:41,640
Speaker 3: get it. It didn't work.

1213
00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:43,120
Speaker 2: It was a lot of the cumming room because in

1214
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:44,640
Speaker 2: the credits you see all these other places.

1215
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:48,320
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, two hundred and fifty hours of foot.

1216
00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:50,960
Speaker 1: That's crazy to me. The editors deserve no Bel price.

1217
00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:53,400
Speaker 3: That's almost all the hours in the days.

1218
00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:55,479
Speaker 1: A right, okay, so many hours?

1219
00:58:55,520 --> 00:58:56,360
Speaker 3: How many hours? Hours?

1220
00:58:56,520 --> 00:58:59,000
Speaker 1: Okay, this is bowling Yang's I don't think so, honey.

1221
00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:02,040
Speaker 1: It's time starts now. I don't think so, honey. The

1222
00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:05,400
Speaker 1: current state of vegetables and produce at the grocery stores

1223
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:10,040
Speaker 1: of America. Why did this person throw out the carrots? Sometimes?

1224
00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:12,280
Speaker 2: I don't need seven fucking carrots.

1225
00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:16,120
Speaker 3: I'm making one stewed, not seven stews. The recipe calls

1226
00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:16,800
Speaker 3: for one care.

1227
00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 1: Now I'm supposed to come up with other recipes that

1228
00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:21,000
Speaker 1: are carrot forward for the rest of my fucking week.

1229
00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:21,920
Speaker 1: Who do you think I am?

1230
00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:25,240
Speaker 3: I'm a single, childless day man. I'm cooking for one

1231
00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:26,800
Speaker 3: and I like it that way, and I.

1232
00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:31,640
Speaker 1: Don't want Why Why is society constantly constantly pushing us

1233
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:35,040
Speaker 1: towards partnership, towards domesticity with other people.

1234
00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:36,680
Speaker 3: That's a beautiful thing. That's a beautiful ideal.

1235
00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:38,880
Speaker 1: They aspired to. Why am I on planes? It's the

1236
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:41,360
Speaker 1: responsibility on me to change my seat with you because

1237
00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:44,360
Speaker 1: you want to sit next to your partner. Yes, make it.

1238
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:47,840
Speaker 2: You know this is this is really small, a larger

1239
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:49,320
Speaker 2: thing about society.

1240
00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:51,320
Speaker 3: That is illing us? Is that a verb?

1241
00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:54,360
Speaker 1: I'm all over the place to play words today, but listen, listen,

1242
00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:57,080
Speaker 1: here's the deal. I don't want to buy one head

1243
00:59:57,120 --> 00:59:59,920
Speaker 1: of broccoli when I just need two small florettes from

1244
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:03,480
Speaker 1: my suit. That's one minute. Thank you, cut things off

1245
01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:07,120
Speaker 1: for I don't need all of that. The whole thing

1246
01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:10,280
Speaker 1: of bananas. Guess what's going wrong? Four of them?

1247
01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:10,920
Speaker 3: Four of them?

1248
01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:14,320
Speaker 1: And there are so many benefit from if you take

1249
01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:17,160
Speaker 1: if you they should have taken the banana apart, I'll buy.

1250
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:18,560
Speaker 3: You because we're knowing.

1251
01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:22,840
Speaker 1: Ridiculous. And these carrots are going awaye and they go

1252
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:30,600
Speaker 1: bad way quicker than you think. Cucumbers forget, No, cucumbers

1253
01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:34,840
Speaker 1: can be so beautiful. Use them immediately, Thank you, cabbage,

1254
01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:35,520
Speaker 1: forget about.

1255
01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:38,640
Speaker 3: Keep going, keep going.

1256
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:44,600
Speaker 1: Name. You will not.

1257
01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:46,000
Speaker 3: Believe what he can do.

1258
01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:50,800
Speaker 1: He can name seriously, five seconds in between each one,

1259
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:55,120
Speaker 1: and wait, with only five seconds between each one.

1260
01:00:55,480 --> 01:00:57,960
Speaker 3: This man can list a lot list vegetables.

1261
01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:02,280
Speaker 1: You know what's flashing in my head? You guys having

1262
01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:06,520
Speaker 1: your pedicure with I want to do a pedicure with Molly.

1263
01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:08,800
Speaker 3: Oh god, if you're going to do a pedicure, do

1264
01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:09,840
Speaker 3: with Yeah.

1265
01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:14,440
Speaker 1: I love I love the way she the greatest, the

1266
01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:17,880
Speaker 1: greatest listener of all time. Wasn't that funny? I think

1267
01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:18,680
Speaker 1: that's so funny.

1268
01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:23,640
Speaker 3: Now, So when you wait, when you wait someone, wait, wait,

1269
01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:25,160
Speaker 3: wait math hold on.

1270
01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:29,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, So your dad right took you to the baseball Yes,

1271
01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:32,800
Speaker 4: isn't that funny? Left you in the parking lot? And

1272
01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:34,800
Speaker 4: I thought that was so funny of him to do.

1273
01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:37,960
Speaker 4: You know, I thought, you know, baseball, It's like you

1274
01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:39,480
Speaker 4: could be at the game, you could be in the

1275
01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:41,480
Speaker 4: parking lot. It's just so funny how you can be

1276
01:01:41,520 --> 01:01:42,480
Speaker 4: in so many places at once.

1277
01:01:42,560 --> 01:01:45,560
Speaker 1: Isn't that fun? You're seeing Will and Harper today, they're

1278
01:01:45,720 --> 01:01:48,920
Speaker 1: so tell them I said hello, and tell them again.

1279
01:01:50,560 --> 01:01:50,800
Speaker 3: Again.

1280
01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:54,280
Speaker 5: Molly Shannon is who's afraid of Virginia Will. She scares

1281
01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:56,680
Speaker 5: the hell out of me because I used to have

1282
01:01:56,840 --> 01:02:00,120
Speaker 5: coffee with her and in my journals, I'm writing I

1283
01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:02,200
Speaker 5: think I need to be a woman, and I go

1284
01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:05,320
Speaker 5: have coffee with Molly and she'd be like my father

1285
01:02:05,640 --> 01:02:10,120
Speaker 5: came out in life. She's looking straight at me with

1286
01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:12,040
Speaker 5: those eyes like purecing.

1287
01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:15,600
Speaker 1: She's always or maybe not.

1288
01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:17,200
Speaker 3: It's scary. She's scary.

1289
01:02:17,360 --> 01:02:17,560
Speaker 1: Good.

1290
01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:22,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a perceptiveness. Yeah, absolute, she's she's well.

1291
01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:24,560
Speaker 3: Well, I think you should go next. I think Harper

1292
01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:26,640
Speaker 3: should close this out. Oh Jesus, be so hard.

1293
01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:27,800
Speaker 5: I can't follow either one.

1294
01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:31,000
Speaker 3: Of course you can't. You do it for a living,

1295
01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:36,000
Speaker 3: know you doing this? You guys do this eight times

1296
01:02:36,040 --> 01:02:38,280
Speaker 3: a week like a Broadway show.

1297
01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:42,840
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I only just realized how hard it

1298
01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:44,800
Speaker 1: is to do eight times a week. Thinking about doing

1299
01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:47,240
Speaker 1: this eight times a week now, I really now I

1300
01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:48,360
Speaker 1: really respect Broadway.

1301
01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:49,040
Speaker 3: No kidding.

1302
01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:54,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, Hey, Patty Lapone, hats off man, you are a talent.

1303
01:02:55,240 --> 01:03:00,120
Speaker 3: H I happen to be listening to the podc this

1304
01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:02,280
Speaker 3: is Patty. I so appreciate it.

1305
01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:06,080
Speaker 1: I want to shut it. Okay, here we go, turn

1306
01:03:06,160 --> 01:03:10,120
Speaker 1: your phone on. My phone is on in order to

1307
01:03:10,720 --> 01:03:13,640
Speaker 1: log the time. This is Will Farrell's I don't think

1308
01:03:13,720 --> 01:03:16,040
Speaker 1: so honey, and your time starts now.

1309
01:03:17,560 --> 01:03:22,360
Speaker 3: I don't think so honey about here's the thing, Okay,

1310
01:03:22,560 --> 01:03:23,280
Speaker 3: tell us the thing.

1311
01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:24,120
Speaker 1: I don't.

1312
01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:26,800
Speaker 3: I don't think so honey, I don't.

1313
01:03:27,240 --> 01:03:28,720
Speaker 1: It's okay.

1314
01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:30,120
Speaker 4: Here's here's the book.

1315
01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:35,920
Speaker 3: This ties into this ties into the documentary.

1316
01:03:35,960 --> 01:03:36,720
Speaker 1: Here comes the tie in.

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Speaker 3: Here's a book that my mom literally had a self

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Speaker 3: help book on her shelf all right, called It's none

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Speaker 3: of my business what you think of me. We got

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Speaker 3: that and even as a little kid, that was my mantra.

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Speaker 3: If I walked into the room and I got dirty looks,

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Speaker 3: none of my business, you're taking me, none of my business.

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Speaker 3: And as we went through America fifteen second America, the Heartland,

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Speaker 3: the rhythm, the flag, the it was none of Harper's

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Speaker 3: business what you think of her?

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Speaker 1: Five seconds she goes through this world.

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Speaker 3: Loved and herself. Finally and uh oh, I gotta slay down,

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Speaker 3: slay down boots.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Yeah, slay down boots.

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Speaker 3: Just strike that. No we can't do that, No, no,

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Speaker 3: we can't do No, we can't do that. The point

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Speaker 3: you're making is important.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but by the way.

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Speaker 5: I didn't know there was a k Farrel, there was

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Speaker 5: a that K Farrell connection to your openness. There really

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Speaker 5: was there human beings, really was. She taught me to

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Speaker 5: I mean like a beautiful person.

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Speaker 1: She is.

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Speaker 3: She made you a beautiful person.

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Speaker 1: You know what I think? Rup Paul says that too.

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Speaker 1: What other other people's opinion of me is none of

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Speaker 1: my business.

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Speaker 2: And if you know yourself and like yourself to a

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Speaker 2: certain degree, that's on. That's on the other person. And

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Speaker 2: if you don't like that, that's on. That's on you

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Speaker 2: to figure out what to do with me. But you

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Speaker 2: don't have to be the one to carry it.

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Speaker 1: That's you know what's interesting.

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Speaker 3: And I'm okay with how bad that. I don't think so,

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Speaker 3: honey was I don't care what you think of me.

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Speaker 3: There you go, But you know what, that's the cure

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Speaker 3: what you think of me.

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Speaker 1: It was great.

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Speaker 5: Audio was a little spotty during that.

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Speaker 1: I feel like there's so many times actually it's like

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Speaker 1: what you said about touching the hot stove. It's like

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Speaker 1: reading comments about you online is like you wouldn't touch

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Speaker 1: a hot stove. Every single time I go to the internet,

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Speaker 1: it's a hot stove to gauge whether or not I'm

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Speaker 1: doing well or people like me. It always is worse

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Speaker 1: than when I wake up in the morning and baseline

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Speaker 1: feel pretty good.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's right.

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Speaker 2: It's always gonna be a hot stove. And why would

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Speaker 2: you touch it? Okay, these people gotta go.

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Speaker 3: We go all right? Okay, we got on my phone.

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Speaker 3: Sounds like like that. It sounds like I just don't

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Speaker 3: You shouldn't have said that. This is this though.

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Speaker 5: They got it on camera.

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Speaker 1: Authenticity, cameras beautiful. That's what people connect when.

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Speaker 3: I start the camera, when I made sure they weren't

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Speaker 3: on Okay, they.

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Speaker 1: Just have a red Yeah, sabotage from boss.

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Speaker 5: Give me a countdown.

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Speaker 3: Wait wait, wait say that by the way before I don't, honey,

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Speaker 3: before we're done today, I have to go through some

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Speaker 3: HR stuff.

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Speaker 1: Okay, problem, what do we do now?

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Speaker 3: I just got to get your w twos that HR

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Speaker 3: that's accounting what you do, what you do, all those

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Speaker 3: cutbacks and one of us getting cut No, no, no, no,

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Speaker 3: you guys are safe.

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Speaker 1: Okay, guys are something I know. I'm fucking huge. Okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: never steal this is your I don't think so, honey.

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Speaker 3: Okay, time starts now j K rolling.

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Speaker 5: I hate full attacks on Olympic boxer A man Khalif

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Speaker 5: demonstrates the very core of why some people hate trans women.

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Speaker 5: Khalif is not trans. No, she's a woman, yes, but

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Speaker 5: because she does not conform to Jk's limited.

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Speaker 1: And frankly racist ideas of.

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Speaker 5: What makes a woman, he repeatedly called her trans and

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Speaker 5: referred to her as a man.

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Speaker 3: Thirty seconds halfway point, I don't think say I don't think.

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Speaker 5: So, honey, wit, No, no, no, and oh I can say, oh,

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Speaker 5: I don't think so, honey. Women can be beautiful in

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Speaker 5: so many ways. In fifteen j K is not one

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Speaker 5: of those women, because when you are hateful and bigoted

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Speaker 5: in your heart, you are ugly. I don't even think

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Speaker 5: she's a honey.

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Speaker 1: Oh, we don't even think you're a honey, and you

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Speaker 1: haven't been a honey for a very long time. She's

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Speaker 1: purely dark.

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Speaker 3: So disgusting.

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Speaker 2: Although my Kalif was at the Potickeulvanetta show in Paris

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Speaker 2: for fashion week. She looked amazing, incredible, word, gorgeous suit.

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Speaker 1: What are you just the level of detail, yes, gorgeous, detailed.

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Speaker 2: It was a suit as detailed, No and then and

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Speaker 2: have you seen all these things about like the mold

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Speaker 2: in her house?

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Speaker 5: Mold, a black mole, black mole. No, I try to

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Speaker 5: keep away from her. Of course they're dangerous and hurtful. However,

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Speaker 5: is suing her yea. And the libel laws and England

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01:08:25,760 --> 01:08:27,720
Speaker 5: are better, the libels and France are better. I just

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Speaker 5: hope she gets a fuck.

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Speaker 2: Of course j K is a dementor. And you know

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Speaker 2: who's also like on this. Not to bring other people

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Speaker 2: into this, but Martina never Toulova is also being.

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Speaker 1: Right, yeah, is women and trans women in sports conversation.

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Speaker 2: It's like, all right, everybody, just calm calm down, or

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Speaker 2: just even keep it to yourself.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, it's just it's just that we will,

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Speaker 3: well we.

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Speaker 1: Will, and I will say end on a happiness because

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Speaker 1: I know you guys have to go.

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Speaker 6: This is just really.

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Speaker 1: Tell us that. So what if it was not going well,

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01:09:08,320 --> 01:09:08,799
Speaker 1: you could.

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Speaker 3: A little bit.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well guess what you bet you have to

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01:09:14,560 --> 01:09:16,840
Speaker 1: do your own pickups? Then no, because we know you

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01:09:16,920 --> 01:09:18,599
Speaker 1: have to do pickups for your show, and so now

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01:09:18,680 --> 01:09:23,560
Speaker 1: you have no excuse. No butter, no, Butter said, on

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Speaker 1: a serious note, thank you so much for this just gift,

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01:09:27,840 --> 01:09:31,960
Speaker 1: like it really is. And I think that everyone is

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Speaker 1: going to benefit from watching this and in a major way.

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01:09:35,680 --> 01:09:38,000
Speaker 1: And I'm sure you feel both of you feel like

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01:09:38,080 --> 01:09:40,479
Speaker 1: you've benefited from doing it. That's what art is all about.

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01:09:40,520 --> 01:09:43,519
Speaker 1: It's about the sharing, and it's about the education and

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01:09:43,720 --> 01:09:46,200
Speaker 1: the you know, you do it in such a light

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Speaker 1: and beautiful way and the heavy moments are they really

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Speaker 1: land And I just I can't say enough about how

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Speaker 1: inspired and how much I look up to you both.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, It's so cool. Means a lot. It's our

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Speaker 3: honor both of you, very very very lucky that you're here.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for coming. And we end every episode with this,

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Speaker 3: can I can I get my parking validated? You did

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01:10:08,720 --> 01:10:09,120
Speaker 3: drive here?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Do you guys do a little wrap up at the end.

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01:10:11,400 --> 01:10:12,920
Speaker 3: It's like they those two were.

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01:10:14,800 --> 01:10:19,160
Speaker 1: We have a Howard Stern after showed. Yeah, he does

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Speaker 1: an amazing job. He does an amazing job. He's really good.

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Speaker 3: He's a huge friend. Yankee shirt.

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Speaker 1: What's going to be? To end it? Burn will go

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Speaker 1: west Cross didn't.

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Speaker 3: Request.

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Speaker 2: I saw it twice and so I'm like, and then

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Speaker 2: I texted Christals like, you're getting an Oscar nomination?

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Speaker 3: And also.

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Speaker 1: Of jazzy.

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Speaker 3: This is the Jazzy I'll be it by the time.

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Speaker 2: February marshalls around anyway. Last Culture Reactis is the production

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Speaker 2: by Will Ferrell's Big Money Players and iHeartRadio podcasts.

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Speaker 1: Created and hosted by Matt Rodgers and Bowen Yang. Executive

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01:11:07,360 --> 01:11:08,960
Speaker 1: produced by Anna Hasnier and.

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Speaker 2: Hans Soni, produced by Becker Ramos, edited mixed by Doug

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Speaker 2: BABYMNEFA Board and our.

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Speaker 1: Music is by Henry Koberski. Hey everybody, it's me Matt Rogers,

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01:11:21,680 --> 01:11:23,800
Speaker 1: letting you know. Tickets are on sale now to see

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Speaker 1: me on tour, the Prince of Christmas Tour, that is,

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Speaker 1: I'm doing my whole album Have You Heard of Christmas?

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Speaker 1: Plus a lot more with the whole band all throughout December.

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Speaker 1: Go to www dot Matt rogersofficial dot com to see

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Speaker 1: me in a city near you