Speaker 1: Boody who. This is George with a very special announcement.
Speaker 1: First of all, my debut stand up comedy special is
Speaker 1: coming out officially on December second. It will be available
Speaker 1: to rent or purchase on Amazon and Apple and various
Speaker 1: other websites. But that is not what I'm here to announce,
Speaker 1: because it is not available yet. I am merely saying
Speaker 1: that because I wanted to tell everyone that I am
Speaker 1: having a big special release show at the Bellhouse in Brooklyn,
Speaker 1: New York on December third. That is the day after
Speaker 1: the special comes out, So come to the Bellhouse, come celebrate.
Speaker 1: It will be a big show. It'll be like a
Speaker 1: George and Friends style show with some extra special guests
Speaker 1: and surprises. And if you buy tickets now then you
Speaker 1: won't have to buy them later when I announced the
Speaker 1: lineup publicly, so you heard it here. First, Bellhouse, December third,
Speaker 1: Special Release Georgian Friends show. And then the second thing
Speaker 1: is that Sam and I are doing a sort of
Speaker 1: last minute kind of industry adjacent show, a special edition
Speaker 1: Stradio Lab Live at on Air Fest in Los Angeles
Speaker 1: on November eleventh. It is a podcast festival and there
Speaker 1: are a few tickets set aside for sort of the
Speaker 1: ga general admission crowd. If you don't professionally work in podcasting,
Speaker 1: you can still see us do our thing. So in conclusion,
Speaker 1: come to my special release show at the Bellhouse in
Speaker 1: Brooklyn on December third, and if you're in LA come
Speaker 1: see us at on AirFest on November eleventh. The tickets
Speaker 1: for that are on the Bellhouse website, on my link
Speaker 1: tree on the Stradia lablink tree. Honey, if you look
Speaker 1: for them, y'all find them. Enjoy The showcast starts now.
Speaker 2: Hello all, we are coming at you bi coastally once again.
Speaker 2: Our New York records have officially ended. We did six
Speaker 2: weeks of New York recordings.
Speaker 1: We did six weeks of New York recordings. And now
Speaker 1: you know, also, I have to say those recordings were
Speaker 1: recorded during such an optimistic time. We were both in
Speaker 1: such good moods. We were frolicking around various food trucks
Speaker 1: in the Dumbo, Brooklyn area. It was pretty much still
Speaker 1: summer in the sense that it was, you know, September. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and now I am first of all, let's get this
Speaker 1: out of the way. I'm sick. It's okay, you don't
Speaker 1: have semi flowers, but it is what it is. I
Speaker 1: have what is known in the medical community as brain fog.
Speaker 1: It is absolutely kicking my ass. I'm taking fifteen minutes
Speaker 1: to complete one sentence. So that's one thing. Drop that down.
Speaker 1: Second thing. It is a gloomy New York day. I
Speaker 1: would say the light that is reflected on my face
Speaker 1: is the color gray.
Speaker 2: I have to say. I still follow like a New
Speaker 2: York weather account, and it like every day like says
Speaker 2: like ten out of ten, like Sonny and seventy five,
Speaker 2: and today it was like two out of ten. Torrential downpours,
Speaker 2: miserable energy, avoid at all costs, And I was like,
Speaker 2: I really want to come back to New York and
Speaker 2: I really forget, Like I'm like scared for that moment
Speaker 2: when you're like, damn, today is just miserable. There's no
Speaker 2: way around it.
Speaker 1: You know what though it is, however, there is something
Speaker 1: so almost there's this sort of joy and the self
Speaker 1: flagellation of just being like I can't do anything. I'm
Speaker 1: basically Sylvia Plath, and I'm gonna sit here and just
Speaker 1: sort of sink deeper and deeper into my couch and
Speaker 1: just be depressed doing emails I'm gonna make tea, but
Speaker 1: then forget the tea bag and the tea thing and
Speaker 1: then have one sip and be like this is absolutely disgusting,
Speaker 1: and then throw it out and be like, you know
Speaker 1: what I should get into tea? Finally, I can't keep
Speaker 1: only drinking tea that's from the grocery store. But it's like,
Speaker 1: that is such a high bar to entry. So then
Speaker 1: of course you start googling tea. Next thing, you know,
Speaker 1: you have seventeen tabs open, and you're like, I wonder
Speaker 1: what my ex is up to, and then you go
Speaker 1: on his Instagram, et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 2: No, I think, what's so at least in New York
Speaker 2: when you're when it's cloudy slash rainy and you're in
Speaker 2: a bad mood, and you're like, well, of course I'm
Speaker 2: gonna mood bad moods cloudy slash rainy today. I'm let's
Speaker 2: let's be upfront. I'm in a horrible mood for seemingly.
Speaker 2: I guess the reason is because I slept badly and
Speaker 2: it's sunny and about eighty five degrees outside. I simply
Speaker 2: have no excuse. I was mad that it was too sunny.
Speaker 2: I was mad that it was nice out, and I'm like,
Speaker 2: now this has to stop. You can't. The way that
Speaker 2: La is turning me against sunny summary weather is shocking.
Speaker 1: I used to because because yes, well exactly, because what
Speaker 1: Ela does is infuse sunny summary weather with a sort
Speaker 1: of like grim film noir element. It's like, it's like
Speaker 1: did you It's very like David Lynch, It's like, did
Speaker 1: you know that actually when it's sunny, that's because there's
Speaker 1: darkness in the world and this is hiding it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really really bleak.
Speaker 1: And I'm glad you mentioned being in a bad mood
Speaker 1: because we are honestly both in pretty terrible moods today.
Speaker 1: And I'm feeling that there's a there's a part of
Speaker 1: me that wants to address each of our bad moods
Speaker 1: or for me to be like what's wrong, Like is
Speaker 1: everything okay? Blah blah blah. But I'm kind of like,
Speaker 1: put your own mask on first. I'm literally like I
Speaker 1: can't think of anyone else's bad mood except except my own.
Speaker 2: Well, and I just want to add to what's going
Speaker 2: on with me? Is this so this will come out
Speaker 2: after Halloween so I can say this now and it
Speaker 2: won't be a spoiler, which why are to be a spoiler?
Speaker 2: Who do I think I am? But for Halloween, Misha
Speaker 2: and I've decided. First we were like, we're gonna be
Speaker 2: Ham and Mitch. How funny. I bought a red wig,
Speaker 2: I got red dye from my and I'm growing my beard.
Speaker 2: Misha's got like a contrast cuff flowed shirt. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: and so we're like, okay, that's so fun. And then
Speaker 2: we put the costumes on roughly and I was like, wait,
Speaker 2: I kind of just like a normal guy in a
Speaker 2: red wig, of course. And then it's like, okay, wait.
Speaker 2: We were talking to some people and they were like,
Speaker 2: what if you're sexy Camon Mitch? And I'm like, now
Speaker 2: that's funny. And so I was like, okay, so it's
Speaker 2: the same costume but like with like soft garters on
Speaker 2: and like maybe like playing boxers on.
Speaker 1: It's really good, but.
Speaker 2: Still like sweater and like v nex sweater and collared
Speaker 2: shirt up top for me. And but then I've been
Speaker 2: on various websites all morning. I can't find st Garters
Speaker 2: for the life of me. They they they don't have,
Speaker 2: like there are none in Los Angeles that I can
Speaker 2: find and Amazon sorry is not delivering until Saturday.
Speaker 1: You know. This is of course when those things where
Speaker 1: my instinct is to google it and think I'm gonna
Speaker 1: find it in two seconds, and it's like, no, you're smart,
Speaker 1: you've tried. You've tried what I'm about to try.
Speaker 2: It's I mean, there is like I could like look
Speaker 2: up like men's suiting stores and like call them and
Speaker 2: be like do you have these? But it feels like
Speaker 2: such a niche product at this point, or like even
Speaker 2: like I'm like sex stores, Like I'm like, has it
Speaker 2: just gone into full kink wear where like the sock
Speaker 2: garter for men?
Speaker 1: But I don't you think so. I mean, I understand
Speaker 1: the desire for a sock garter, but there are other
Speaker 1: ways to make a costume sexy, Like I think if
Speaker 1: you can't find one, you will find other ways to
Speaker 1: pull off the iconic costume sexy.
Speaker 2: Cam and Mitch, of course, it's just a SoC guard
Speaker 2: would really sell it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, are you gonna have a lily?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: Because we wanted to have like, you know, we're going
Speaker 2: to a house party first, so we were like, oh,
Speaker 2: we should like bring a bottle of something wrapped up
Speaker 2: in a baby blanket. But then we were worried that
Speaker 2: people would like, if we posted a picture of us
Speaker 2: as Cam and Mitch with a baby, they would think
Speaker 2: it was a baby innouncement, right I do.
Speaker 1: I don't know if that many people would think that,
Speaker 1: but I respect it. I was more thinking that you
Speaker 1: were worried that like libs of TikTok would pick it
Speaker 1: up and then it would be like, look, these these
Speaker 1: gays think that having a child is kink.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, that's true. I mean, you're right, and I
Speaker 2: should let go of the salt garter, but I really
Speaker 2: committed to it in my mind.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I get it, and it is the perfect
Speaker 1: way to make It's the perfect way for something to
Speaker 1: be kinky while also gesturing at preppy dad, which is
Speaker 1: basically what you're trying to do with them with your
Speaker 1: Mitch costume. Yeah that's really good though, and I mean
Speaker 1: Mitch is a little more challenging. But Cam, if you
Speaker 1: have one of those contrast cuff shirts, it's like so
Speaker 1: immediately clear what you're being.
Speaker 2: I was honestly like jealous that got to be Cam,
Speaker 2: and then I was like, we're both Cam, and then
Speaker 2: I like no one of us has to be match.
Speaker 1: It would be really funny if you.
Speaker 2: Were nine of one thousand cams.
Speaker 1: So basically, this is a call an episode, and we
Speaker 1: are having disagreements about which calls to.
Speaker 2: Take, huge disagreements.
Speaker 1: Huge disagreements to the point where I was actually like,
Speaker 1: we have to start recording otherwise we'll get into a fight.
Speaker 2: And it's kind of this ever happens to us.
Speaker 1: I know it was a real I mean, I think
Speaker 1: this has to do with both of us are not
Speaker 1: feeling great and are sleep deprived. I'm not going to
Speaker 1: get into it, but when you mentioned sleep problems, I
Speaker 1: wanted to also talk about how I've been having insane insomnia.
Speaker 1: Like last night, I watched after we had watched TV
Speaker 1: and went to bed by myself. I watched five episodes
Speaker 1: of thirty Rock just in bed in the dark, like
Speaker 1: with my laptop there, which usually would put me to sleep,
Speaker 1: and I was just eyes wide open, staring into my screen.
Speaker 1: And this has not been happening for like a week.
Speaker 1: I'm just like being up until four am, not being
Speaker 1: able to fall asleep, and I think it's stress related
Speaker 1: and and I don't know. Also the like travel over
Speaker 1: the summer didn't help, but I'm I'm so tired.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so.
Speaker 1: We I'm gonna I like the idea of sort of
Speaker 1: reading through we have. We get so many calls and
Speaker 1: I want everyone to know that there are I put them.
Speaker 1: We put them all in a spreadsheet. Then we like,
Speaker 1: based on our whims that day, we highlight them that
Speaker 1: we think are good. That we end up doing whatever
Speaker 1: we feel like in the moment. There are questions that
Speaker 1: keep getting asked over and over again, and we are
Speaker 1: not sure if we've ever answered them.
Speaker 4: We are.
Speaker 1: It also depends on our mood. Sometimes we want to
Speaker 1: do more advicey questions. Sometimes we want to do pop
Speaker 1: culture questions. Sometimes we want to do more like conceptual questions.
Speaker 1: What are the ones that we're sticking out to you?
Speaker 2: I wonder I was preferring the ones that were sort
Speaker 2: of like either like very open ended pop culture. I
Speaker 2: think I don't like when it feels like a quiz. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And I also don't like when I feel like I
Speaker 2: have to like speak from huge authority, because sometimes say
Speaker 2: I find that to be like, I'm yeah, but I
Speaker 2: was liking the open ended pop culture ones, which just like,
Speaker 2: what are your thoughts? On this, and I was also
Speaker 2: liking sort of the like maybe options, like I have
Speaker 2: I have a choice. I can either do this or this,
Speaker 2: Which should I do? Like that was really speaking to
Speaker 2: me because I was like, it feels easiest, not that
Speaker 2: not that it's all about ease. I'm just sort of
Speaker 2: like that was what was speaking to me. We was
Speaker 2: speaking to you.
Speaker 1: So here's what I think. Maybe this is a crutch
Speaker 1: I'm falling on, but I think people generally like recommendation culture.
Speaker 1: Right now, I have mixed feelings about how every single
Speaker 1: thing now is like so and so is five favorite
Speaker 1: skin care product, so and so is five favorite movies,
Speaker 1: things you can't live without, Like that like questionnaire that
Speaker 1: people do on Instagram that's like things things Amanda Seifried
Speaker 1: loves and things Amanda Siphreid hates, uh huh, or like
Speaker 1: the perfectly imperfect newsletter where it's like all people recommending
Speaker 1: things and you have to do two things that are
Speaker 1: specific and then one thing that's like the feeling after
Speaker 1: a rain when you have a burger, and you have
Speaker 1: to like be just of Carrie Bradshaw enough about it
Speaker 1: and be like like things you don't like compulsory child
Speaker 1: are airing or whatever, and I and I think that
Speaker 1: adds enough structure. Like, for example, we got a question
Speaker 1: that was like, what is the last truly perfect movie
Speaker 1: you watched? And I was like, Oh, that's fun because
Speaker 1: I can It's limiting enough that I can go back
Speaker 1: through the movies I watched recently and just like pick
Speaker 1: a few. And then you were like, why would anyone
Speaker 1: want to listen to me talk about how I thought
Speaker 1: one battle after another is good? Everyone think it's good.
Speaker 2: Well, I was like, I'm not like reinventing the wheel here,
Speaker 2: Like I was kind of like you could like to me,
Speaker 2: and all respects to that caller, but I was like
Speaker 2: the perfect what I think is the perfect movie that
Speaker 2: I watched?
Speaker 1: Like a perfect movie.
Speaker 2: To me? I was like, like, it's I also think
Speaker 2: I'm sort of like maybe I don't believe in I
Speaker 2: think for some reason, the phrasing of the question of
Speaker 2: like what is a perfect movie you watched is like
Speaker 2: stressing me out because it invites like people to be
Speaker 2: like you thought that was perfect?
Speaker 1: Like don't you love just recklessly having an opinion?
Speaker 2: And maybe part of it is like I don't think
Speaker 2: I've ever thought any movie was perfect, like like it's
Speaker 2: a wonderful life maybe, but I bet you could trim
Speaker 2: a couple of mens, like like, I'm just sort of
Speaker 2: like nothing's perfect.
Speaker 1: No, that's tea I was. I recently randomly watched Invasion
Speaker 1: of the Body Snatchers for the first time, the one
Speaker 1: with like Donald Sutherland, and I guess I would say
Speaker 1: I had low expectations, but I was like, this is
Speaker 1: someone else, you know, Matthew put it on. I was like,
Speaker 1: all right, I guess we'll watch it. And then by
Speaker 1: the end, I was like having such a good time
Speaker 1: and it was like so simple and not trying to
Speaker 1: have like a million twists and turns and like really
Speaker 1: well shot in this sort of fun seventies like paranoia way.
Speaker 1: And I also recently watched in the Mood for Love
Speaker 1: for the first time, and so those were gonna be
Speaker 1: my two sorry, not interesting, and then the other and
Speaker 1: then wait, so you you were drawn to? You were
Speaker 1: drawn to for example, what celeb or what popstar right
Speaker 1: now has the gay men, gay women and straight women
Speaker 1: in a choke hold?
Speaker 2: Well? And I thought the call behind that was very
Speaker 2: smart when I read through it, a bit like.
Speaker 1: Well, let's maybe do how about we do our first
Speaker 1: how about we do our first call and start there
Speaker 1: and then get the wheels turn in.
Speaker 5: Okay, Okay, I sayim and George. My name is Casey.
Speaker 5: I'm calling from Massachusetts. My husband and I went to
Speaker 5: your Summerville show.
Speaker 6: We loved it.
Speaker 5: He was really not too familiar with your work until then,
Speaker 5: but he laughed the whole time, and I'll just say
Speaker 5: he was particularly charmed by Sam.
Speaker 1: My question for you is interesting.
Speaker 5: This is a Lily Allen breakup album happening right now.
Speaker 5: It's amazing, incredible. What was your perception of their relationship
Speaker 5: pre breakup and now with this album post breakup? Did
Speaker 5: you I'm curious what the gay community thought, particularly of
Speaker 5: David Harbor during his height of like people loving this
Speaker 5: sad dad thing and now knowing what we know now,
Speaker 5: have things changed at all? Thanks for your thoughts and
Speaker 5: your amazing.
Speaker 2: Podcast by well, what can you say? Straight guys love me?
Speaker 1: It was such an interesting choice to include in a
Speaker 1: call that you know that had it all. It was complimentary.
Speaker 1: You're building up to a great relevant question to want
Speaker 1: to immediately create a rift between us by saying your
Speaker 1: straight husband liked Sam Moore.
Speaker 2: I mean this is there is a toxic desire among
Speaker 2: all to pit gay podcasters against each other.
Speaker 1: It's so the phrasing of and I'll.
Speaker 2: Just say, don't just say, don't say he was.
Speaker 1: Especially charmed by Sam. Why would you just say that?
Speaker 2: Why would you say that?
Speaker 1: Someone recently commented on a on one of our clips
Speaker 1: with Adam Friedlanden was like, it's my duty to say.
Speaker 1: I was like, no, it's not. Shut the hell up,
Speaker 1: shut up, Go okay, what do you to? Obviously, David
Speaker 1: Harbor is so comically your type that it is even
Speaker 1: a cliche to bring him up.
Speaker 2: So David Harper is a huge sex symbol in the
Speaker 2: Barrack community. It is not just me, of course, that
Speaker 2: finds him hot. It is anyone who finds Bear. He's
Speaker 2: like on Bear fan pages constantly, and it's like very
Speaker 2: interesting for the Bears. I don't think this is gonna
Speaker 2: make a splash. I think everyone will still want to
Speaker 2: have sex with him. For the general public, I'm interested
Speaker 2: in how you feel, George about will people like turn
Speaker 2: on him?
Speaker 1: You know, I am so confused about where we are
Speaker 1: as a like mainstream, sort of straight leaning culture on
Speaker 1: men and women right now. And I'm saying that in
Speaker 1: complete earnestness, like there is I believe this very kind
Speaker 1: of predictable but grim backlash against it started out as
Speaker 1: being a backlash against quote unquote girl boss culture, which
Speaker 1: I hate to use a word that has never literally
Speaker 1: meant anything. Literally. It is something that from the beginning
Speaker 1: was a punch line that the book girl Boss by
Speaker 1: Sophia Marusso came out and immediately was a punchline. This
Speaker 1: idea that we have in retrospect that at one point
Speaker 1: we were in the girl Boss era and now we're
Speaker 1: not is stupid and only people who write for digital
Speaker 1: media believe it, So wake the fuck up and be
Speaker 1: an adult. So anyway, first it started as a backlash
Speaker 1: against girl boss culture, which is in its own way
Speaker 1: completely like veiled misogyny and sexism. Then it became a
Speaker 1: backlash in an even more dark way against like me too,
Speaker 1: because of course like people were like very confused how
Speaker 1: to act, and so then you know, you suddenly had
Speaker 1: like the random Babe dot net article about Azaz, which
Speaker 1: everyone felt weird about blah, and so then every the
Speaker 1: water's got muddied so much that basically anytime, anytime a
Speaker 1: woman speaks now she sort of is like not quite trusted.
Speaker 1: Would you agree?
Speaker 2: I would agree. I think we're in a really complicated spot.
Speaker 2: And this particular drama is interesting too because it's like
Speaker 2: both new and old. Yes, it's like sort of a
Speaker 2: cheating scandal, which is classic vintage. She's not necessarily saying
Speaker 2: like he abused me. She's saying like he was like
Speaker 2: a horrible partner and we've had a miserable couple of years,
Speaker 2: and that makes it old. But then it's new because
Speaker 2: it's like, well, we were open, so it wasn't like
Speaker 2: fully illegal, and like it was just like he broke
Speaker 2: the rules of our open agreement.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So there's something very very now about it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and there's also something very sorry, aging millennial about it.
Speaker 1: Like it is so Lily Allen is such a classic
Speaker 1: millennial voice, and you know, I hate to talk about generations. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you just have to, like she is. She is
Speaker 1: someone who could only be the exact age she is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1: So when we were talking about like the status of
Speaker 1: Data Harbor, I'm like, I don't think the quote unquote
Speaker 1: cancelation of a man has the same uh weight that
Speaker 1: it did in like twenty eighteen, twenty nine. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: at the same time, this album is clearly making a
Speaker 1: big impact. Yeah, but in my world, I'm seeing it
Speaker 1: more as like you go girl, Lily Allen, than like
Speaker 1: David Harbor is an asshole.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's you go girl.
Speaker 1: It's like it's almost beside the point who he is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like interesting. It adds a level of intrigue
Speaker 2: that it's someone famous that we all can just like
Speaker 2: recognize instantly. But it's not. It doesn't it's not the
Speaker 2: whole story. It is more like you did that thing,
Speaker 2: you got out of there, and your body looks amazing.
Speaker 2: I do feel like that's we're not talking about that. That
Speaker 2: that's part of the album. Roll out is like her
Speaker 2: being like and also, look at how my body looks amazing.
Speaker 1: No. Yes, she's almost leaning into this sort of imperfect
Speaker 1: victim narrative in a way that I actually find kind
Speaker 1: of fun because Lilyana Lily Allen is an insane.
Speaker 2: Person, always has been.
Speaker 1: Lily Allen is not like some innocent, you know wifey
Speaker 1: who like was so optimistic about this relationship and she's
Speaker 1: always been looking for love and then she got her
Speaker 1: heart broken like Lily Allen is a psycho.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's a bad girl.
Speaker 1: She is a bad girl. She's a psycho. She's done
Speaker 1: insane things in the past. She I would say, like
Speaker 1: partially owns it. Like I think, for example, she she's
Speaker 1: openly being like, well, I was the bad person in
Speaker 1: my previous marriage, so like I was able to relate
Speaker 1: to him whatever. But then she hasn't quote unquote owned
Speaker 1: some of the other insane shit she has said, you know,
Speaker 1: over the year. She's very much a classic like celeb
Speaker 1: who is on social media, whether it's podcasting, whether it's
Speaker 1: the whole stunt sheeted where she like ran her own
Speaker 1: only feet or whatever.
Speaker 2: Oh sure, sure, is that what that website's called Wiki.
Speaker 1: Feet not only fee.
Speaker 2: I mean, I am impressed with the whole album in general.
Speaker 2: I think if we're just talking about broad broadly, I'm
Speaker 2: sort of like I think we had we talked about
Speaker 2: how like it's both like very interesting and you're like
Speaker 2: the first few listens you're like, wow, this is great,
Speaker 2: and then you were saying that you like kind of
Speaker 2: feel gross.
Speaker 1: Now well I find oh wait, sorry. One more thing
Speaker 1: about David Harber is that he has a sort of
Speaker 1: evil looking face. Yeah, And I actually sort of think
Speaker 1: part of his appeal is this kind of villainous energy.
Speaker 1: And so I think, if anything, in terms of my
Speaker 1: attraction to him, for example, this album is not making
Speaker 1: me less attracted to him or making him less of
Speaker 1: a desirable object if you are prone to be attracted
Speaker 1: to him. If anything, I'm like, Wow, it's so hot
Speaker 1: that he had a bag of dildos or whatever she
Speaker 1: accused him of having.
Speaker 2: Yeah, butt plugs and stuff in the lube, and I'm
Speaker 2: literally like, wait, were you using them on yourself? Wait?
Speaker 1: Wait, wait, wait wait wait wait yeah, I e lube.
Speaker 1: So wait, sorry, but you asked me a question. Oh yes.
Speaker 1: I feel like there is something about the entire album,
Speaker 1: the entire album being about the same thing. And I
Speaker 1: know that it has a narrative arc to some extent,
Speaker 1: but honestly, it's mostly that every song is about the
Speaker 1: same thing. And you know what, it almost feels like
Speaker 1: it almost feels like being waterboarded with like pornography. Like
Speaker 1: it reminded me of the Goonerer article where it was like, yes,
Speaker 1: like in small doses, it's like really cathartic to listen
Speaker 1: to Lily Allen like say, like, fuck this guy and
Speaker 1: he did this to me, and he did this to me.
Speaker 1: But to listen to that for like fifteen songs straight
Speaker 1: sort of makes you want to do something else.
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, it can feel a little. It's it's just
Speaker 2: so confessional that I'm sort of like you like you
Speaker 2: let like a recording studio here, you do.
Speaker 1: This right, And I sort of respect that she is
Speaker 1: not she's kind of avoid Well I haven't listened to
Speaker 1: the final songs that many times to remember, but I
Speaker 1: don't think she's sort of avoiding like a catharsist at
Speaker 1: the end, or like an empowerment narrative, right, Like, it's
Speaker 1: really just like you're an asshole, You're an asshole, You're
Speaker 1: an asshole, You're an asshole the end. Yeah, which I
Speaker 1: do respect, like totally. Something like something like Lemonade, while
Speaker 1: being more artful, is also more calculated and can feel
Speaker 1: too overwritten, Yeah, whereas this one really does feel like
Speaker 1: she just like put it all out there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's I respect that I respect to an extent.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So final thoughts on David Harbor. You know we
Speaker 1: would both still have sex with him probably.
Speaker 2: Yeah, send nudes David Harbor. I will do whatever you want.
Speaker 1: And Lily Allen, it's like, you know, if nothing else,
Speaker 1: I'm like, good for you for still getting lips of flappen.
Speaker 2: I fully agree.
Speaker 1: I'm kind of like you know, I I obviously I'm
Speaker 1: holding you at arm's length and I would never want
Speaker 1: to be your close personal friend because I know you
Speaker 1: would ultimately betray me and then potentially post screenshots of
Speaker 1: our texts. But that said, you know you are kind
Speaker 1: of one of the og And I love Lily Allen
Speaker 1: when I was a teen, and as much as I
Speaker 1: am being a little mean to her, I get defensive
Speaker 1: if someone else is mean to her.
Speaker 2: Of course you've earned it.
Speaker 1: Like she's she's kind of a legend.
Speaker 2: Yeah she is.
Speaker 1: And I didn't know people cared so much about her.
Speaker 1: I was like, she's one of those people to me
Speaker 1: that I'm like, isn't it weird that I listened to
Speaker 1: Lily Allen when I was like seventeen, I am not
Speaker 1: seventeen whatever, fourteen.
Speaker 2: It's it's one of those things where I'm also surprised
Speaker 2: that everyone knows her, but I celebrate it.
Speaker 3: You Sam and George love.
Speaker 1: You girls, Love you down.
Speaker 3: Okay, my question is for stand up comedians, which you.
Speaker 1: Guys are Clockett.
Speaker 2: We're at like.
Speaker 3: A really intimate venue or any venue, I guess, and
Speaker 3: you're performing in front of someone that is just like
Speaker 3: so hot and sexy, and you're like you want to
Speaker 3: maybe fuck them? Does it like improve your performance or
Speaker 3: do you And yeah, I'm just curious what it's like
Speaker 3: behind the scenes.
Speaker 2: All right, love you, love you too. I try to
Speaker 2: remain professional for the most part, but it does distract me.
Speaker 2: I will say I do notice, like if there's someone
Speaker 2: like you know, a lot of venues, it depends on
Speaker 2: the lighting. Sometimes you can see the audience very clearly,
Speaker 2: and sometimes you can't see them at all. And when
Speaker 2: you can see someone who's like very hot and you're
Speaker 2: there's like I'm like, so, what's your deal? Like there's
Speaker 2: there's a part of me it's like, what's your deal?
Speaker 2: And I know, like you know, it's I know, nothing
Speaker 2: can happen. You know, I'm on stage and they're in
Speaker 2: the audience. That's like a barrier that can't.
Speaker 1: Be right, Like that going through your head. You're like, okay,
Speaker 1: like we could hook up now wait no, I'm on stage.
Speaker 2: Fuck, But I'm like there's something but I do have
Speaker 2: I have one story George about this where one time
Speaker 2: I was doing like my very first like solo show
Speaker 2: at the Annoyance Leader in Brooklyn, New York. And it
Speaker 2: was like a mixture of characters and stand up and
Speaker 2: I did a character then right at the beginning and
Speaker 2: I where I talked to an audience member, I picked
Speaker 2: an audience member and there was a hot person there
Speaker 2: who you know, I think I told you the story
Speaker 2: and I'll say, yes, you have you have yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: and I called on him and he immediately was like
Speaker 2: mad at me, like right at the start, mad at me.
Speaker 2: And I was like, damn, I shouldn't have called on
Speaker 2: the one person that I found hot. And it was
Speaker 2: like the first bit in the show, and it did
Speaker 2: kind of ruin it slightly.
Speaker 1: I actually think that's very you because you like giving
Speaker 1: yourself a challenge, ah, like, because you know that's not
Speaker 1: going to go as well as picking like a random
Speaker 1: ugly person. It's so classic, this classic.
Speaker 2: I was trying to have my cake and eat it too, Honestly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like when I see a hot person
Speaker 1: in the audience, this is so humiliating. But rather than
Speaker 1: thinking wow, I'm in a position of power because I'm
Speaker 1: the one with the mic and they must really like
Speaker 1: me and that's why they paid to see me. I'm
Speaker 1: thinking the exact opposite, which is I'm thinking I'm the
Speaker 1: theater kid loser on stage and this person is sitting
Speaker 1: there with her arms crossed, being like the hell does
Speaker 1: this like idiot have to say, Like I'm going to
Speaker 1: go to football practice after Like, I revert back to the
Speaker 1: high school damage realm. You're you're the hot person and
Speaker 1: I'm like the loser that is trying a draft of
Speaker 1: my art project on stage. Wow, So I'm not. I
Speaker 1: don't love when there are hot people that I can
Speaker 1: see from stage, and it does not in any way
Speaker 1: turn me on. What I do enjoy is a hot
Speaker 1: person potentially talking to me afterwards and complimenting the show,
Speaker 1: potentially sitting in the back so I don't see them
Speaker 1: as I'm performing, and then coming up to me afterwards.
Speaker 1: I you know, I I'll enjoy that. Yeah, that's and
Speaker 1: that's that's why we do it.
Speaker 2: That's why we do it, folks.
Speaker 1: So wait, I want to just quickly say one of
Speaker 1: the ones we disagreed on is what is a piece
Speaker 1: of media we loved in our youth that we now hate.
Speaker 1: And I want to say, get ready because this is
Speaker 1: a shocking thing to say. I tried rewatching Austin Powers
Speaker 1: recently and really could not get into it. You already
Speaker 1: crazy such a bit.
Speaker 2: You knew that would hurt my feelings, and I to
Speaker 2: hurt my feelings.
Speaker 1: I almost want to try again because I think maybe
Speaker 1: I was in a bad mood. And then the other one,
Speaker 1: which I think I've talked about before, is the movie
Speaker 1: rat Race. I have a memory of loving and I
Speaker 1: watched it recently. Just stonefaced. Mmm.
Speaker 4: Hey, my name's Jeff and my name's Connor. Long time
Speaker 4: gay guys, first time callers.
Speaker 7: We're calling today because of a debate that is absolutely
Speaker 7: tearing our friends group apart.
Speaker 4: We want to know is Lord a gay pop diva.
Speaker 7: I think Lord is absolutely a gay pop diva, but
Speaker 7: I think she's not there yet.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 4: We agree that Charlie Mariah Resa, for example, are gay
Speaker 4: pop difas, and we.
Speaker 7: Also agree that Dua Lipa Pink and Atlant morsett as.
Speaker 4: We have all kinds of arguments either way, but we
Speaker 4: don't want to give them to you because we want
Speaker 4: to sway your decision. But if we keep talking about this,
Speaker 4: our friends are going to kill us. So we need
Speaker 4: to call in professional help from the girls. So please respond.
Speaker 7: We need this debate suttle.
Speaker 4: Thank you so much, Diva and soon Hi.
Speaker 2: Love you Diva, Love you divas. This is so interesting,
Speaker 2: you know it's it's I'm feeling a little bit like
Speaker 2: when someone tells you who they are, believe them, and
Speaker 2: I'm like, so you think du A Lipa is not
Speaker 2: a gay pop diva and I'm supposed to sort of
Speaker 2: listen to your rankings. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. If she's
Speaker 2: not a gay pop diva, then what is she a
Speaker 2: pop singer?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm sorry, but this is like, you know,
Speaker 1: this is like, however, how everyone is over using iconic
Speaker 1: and legend and blah blah blah. I was you know
Speaker 1: what my pet thieves is like when people are like,
Speaker 1: happy birthday to this New York darling, It's like, what
Speaker 1: the hell are you talking about? That is? Jason? Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I like du A Liipa, but you know, give
Speaker 1: her she's still cooking.
Speaker 2: I couldn't disagree more. I'm like dou A Lipa like
Speaker 2: with future nostalgia alone. I think she like has made
Speaker 2: an impact, is so big and is so specifically like
Speaker 2: for like the gay community.
Speaker 1: Listen, I love dou A Lipa. I need more vulnerability
Speaker 1: if I'm gonna call her a gay pop diva. The
Speaker 1: whole point of being a gay pop diva is that
Speaker 1: you are. You have this narrative of being the underdog
Speaker 1: and then persevering you have gone through and I understand.
Speaker 2: Does give vulnerability.
Speaker 1: Well, she's Australian and she had cancer. Did how about
Speaker 1: you check yourself?
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm not seeing vulnerable from her. I'm seeing perfection.
Speaker 1: Listen. Ah, okay, hold on. So you're saying you don't
Speaker 1: trust the people that made this call because they don't
Speaker 1: think dou A Lipa is a gay.
Speaker 2: A gay pop diva, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But that actually doesn't really answer their question, which you know,
Speaker 1: anyone can ask whether or not you agree with your
Speaker 1: opinions or not, which is lord of a gay pop diva?
Speaker 1: I hate this, by the way, this is an example
Speaker 1: of a question you like and I don't like.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, why don't you like it?
Speaker 1: Because it I have because it it damns us into
Speaker 1: being like chatty gay guys.
Speaker 2: But that's what we are. I know, it's one part
Speaker 2: of us. We have a multifaceted personality.
Speaker 1: Is Lord a gay pop diva?
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think I kind of think. See
Speaker 2: the thing is, I think you have to like consent
Speaker 2: to being a gay pop diva, like, and I don't
Speaker 2: know if she's consenting to that. I think that, Like,
Speaker 2: I think that's sort of what what I'm talking about
Speaker 2: with like dua lipa honestly is like she's like, I
Speaker 2: think she kind of considers herself a gay pop diva,
Speaker 2: like and Lord is sort of being like Lord thinks
Speaker 2: she's the Strokes. She's not, but she thinks she is.
Speaker 2: And so that to me, like seeing her call answer
Speaker 2: in Vegas famously was to die for let's start there.
Speaker 2: But she really wants to be like I'm a I'm
Speaker 2: a like I'm just like you. Like I'm like, yes,
Speaker 2: I'm up here, Yes I write these songs, but I'm
Speaker 2: merely a reflection of you. And I'm like, I don't
Speaker 2: see myself as larger than life. I see myself as life.
Speaker 2: And so I'm like, I think I don't I think no,
Speaker 2: because she doesn't think yes, yeah.
Speaker 1: I would say, I would say I'm sorry to this
Speaker 1: group chat. I would say self, evidently no is the
Speaker 1: correct answer. I just don't think that is what she
Speaker 1: is striving to be or accomplishing being. And I also
Speaker 1: think part of the gay pop diva thing is obviously
Speaker 1: overcoming adversity and at some point being an underdog and
Speaker 1: being crucified by the media whatever. But then another part
Speaker 1: of it is being kind of like difficult and having
Speaker 1: literally diva bea. I mean, that is why Mariah Carey
Speaker 1: is a diva. That is why beyond uh Madonna is
Speaker 1: a diva, Like that's the whole. And Beyonce, I'm not
Speaker 1: not to say she's difficult and that she's like like
Speaker 1: treats people poorly, but difficult in the sense that she's
Speaker 1: famously particular and is like always with the laptop and
Speaker 1: like calling the shots and like you gotta have some
Speaker 1: of that energy. And I'm not I think the pure
Speaker 1: joy of a dua lipa or the pure like emoness
Speaker 1: of a lord is not quite there. Like you got
Speaker 1: to sort of combine it all and come out and
Speaker 1: be and become like share, sure, share, But that doesn't.
Speaker 2: Mean gay guys don't like lord, it just means yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess I'm even like, is what gay
Speaker 1: pop diva? Maybe you know what, I'm being so old fashioned.
Speaker 1: I'm kind of being old gay guy that is at
Speaker 1: the gay bar and is like reminiscing about the eighties. Like,
Speaker 1: to me, a gay pop diva is a very specific thing.
Speaker 1: I don't even think Charlie is a gay pop diva,
Speaker 1: and I'm not saying that as a nock to her.
Speaker 1: I love Charlie, but I think you need it's a
Speaker 1: specific thing.
Speaker 2: Well, I think that is. I think to fully answer
Speaker 2: this question, we would have to define what is a
Speaker 2: gay pop diva, because I think that's where the disagreement
Speaker 2: is coming in, is that we have not defined the term.
Speaker 1: Well, I would say that a gay pop diva is
Speaker 1: kind of dangerously close to the definition of a glamour girl,
Speaker 1: which is someone who is glamorous, wounded and seeking truth.
Speaker 2: But there's the added definition of like and also is
Speaker 2: known for belting totally.
Speaker 1: Oh that's true. Yeah, Like, does a gay pop diva
Speaker 1: need to be a vocalist? I would argue probably yes.
Speaker 2: I would argue probably yes, whereas maybe a gay pop girlye.
Speaker 1: That Wow, that's a really good point. And in fact,
Speaker 1: I actually do think that's why the phrase gay pop
Speaker 1: girly was sort of on the rise, is because there
Speaker 1: was a crop of these gurly that were not quite
Speaker 1: diva status yet and.
Speaker 2: They don't want to be like they they don't they're
Speaker 2: not looking to be.
Speaker 1: And also, you know, I gotta say there is an
Speaker 1: age element to the diva thing too, Like I'm a
Speaker 1: little bit like graduating towards diva status means, oh, you're
Speaker 1: about to age into Vegas residency.
Speaker 2: Right right, right, right right.
Speaker 1: It is too early. Even if Lord was going for
Speaker 1: a Mariah thing, which she obviously is not, it is
Speaker 1: too early to graduate her into diva.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Diva is your masters that's right.
Speaker 1: And you know or PhD. We Curly is your master,
Speaker 1: Curly is your mass. Diva is your PhD.
Speaker 3: See.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you're just pop singer, you're you have a bachelor's. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I do think do It for the Record has
Speaker 1: a master's.
Speaker 2: I'm glad you can agree.
Speaker 1: Yes, you know, she might be what she might be
Speaker 1: doing her PhD. You know, when you do a PhD,
Speaker 1: part of it is getting a master's. Like anyone who
Speaker 1: gets a PhD also gets some masters, so I think
Speaker 1: Dua is on the PhD track potentially. But she's presented
Speaker 1: her master's season. Everyone's saying, this is promising. Can't wait
Speaker 1: to see how you make it into you know, your
Speaker 1: monogram monogram monograph.
Speaker 2: Anyway, So since we're talking about the podcast, when we
Speaker 2: make the podcast, I have to say, see, that's why
Speaker 2: I like questions like that. Oh shot, What you're forgetting
Speaker 2: is that we will put the pop star diva question
Speaker 2: through our lens and we make it our own.
Speaker 1: Whereas you think if I were to ask you what
Speaker 1: is a piece of media you love in your youth
Speaker 1: that you now hate? Nothing would come out of that conversation.
Speaker 1: It would be very straightforward, and your answer would just
Speaker 1: be titanic George.
Speaker 2: When I say, when I say, my answer would be
Speaker 2: well nothing, because I respect the child that I was
Speaker 2: and the journey that I had.
Speaker 1: Well, there you go.
Speaker 2: That's not a fun answer. Oh that's a that's a
Speaker 2: void the question.
Speaker 8: Hey, good guys, calling from Miami. Yeah, yeah, you're je No.
Speaker 8: I know, I know nobody likes Maammy, but my question
Speaker 8: I should out to questions protein proteins everywhere, and I
Speaker 8: think we haven't really heard from you guys about protein
Speaker 8: and if it's gay or or what. I think it's
Speaker 8: straight in an obvious way, but you guys always come
Speaker 8: up with new perspectives and as where we listen and
Speaker 8: then yeah, never mind, that's gonna be my only question.
Speaker 9: Bye.
Speaker 4: I love you guys.
Speaker 3: Keep doing great work saving the world.
Speaker 1: Something I love about gay guys is myself included is
Speaker 1: that they will be giving you a straightforward compliment, but
Speaker 1: the tone of voice is like, but I could change
Speaker 1: my mind at any second.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's it's comforting. It keeps me in line.
Speaker 1: Is protein gay or straight?
Speaker 2: This is so complex because I like protein is everywhare
Speaker 2: Like we all know this. This is not a hot take.
Speaker 2: It is just like like when there's protein cold foam
Speaker 2: at Starbucks, Like you have to take a step back.
Speaker 2: I mean for me, I'm literally being like, okay, then
Speaker 2: what is protein? Like where are they getting all this stuff?
Speaker 2: What mine is this coming from? I guess I have
Speaker 2: no understanding what protein is. If you can just put
Speaker 2: it in anything, I find it like it's there's like
Speaker 2: a curve or something where it's like I think ten
Speaker 2: years ago, protein was very straight and it was like
Speaker 2: the stereotype of like the guy with the jug of
Speaker 2: creatine powder and that's like the only food he has
Speaker 2: in his kitchen, and it's like the straightest guy in
Speaker 2: the world.
Speaker 1: And then like muscle milk, muscle milk, Like muscle milk
Speaker 1: is such a classic kind of straight phrase, straight combination.
Speaker 2: Yes, and even the branding of musclemilk it was very masculine,
Speaker 2: and there was something like where it was like this
Speaker 2: is for straight guys, this this whole system, and now
Speaker 2: it's turning into like like again Starbucks cold foam with protein,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, it's becoming queer, and for yoga girl.
Speaker 1: It's becoming feminized. I mean basically what happened with protein,
Speaker 1: just on a literal level, Sorry to absolutely blow the
Speaker 1: alarm on this, is that the way capitalism works is
Speaker 1: that one market was cornered fully all men were into protein,
Speaker 1: so then they were like, how do we expand this market.
Speaker 1: We feminize protein and make it also for women, And
Speaker 1: then suddenly you have Goop and Gwyneth Paltrow promoting cottage
Speaker 1: cheese pancakes and Starbucks cold foam that's advertised by some
Speaker 1: brain dead influencer and you know you have like I
Speaker 1: don't know, you can put proteins in your protein powder
Speaker 1: in your what's the smoothie place in La and your
Speaker 1: ear wan smoothie. That's literally what it is. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: what happened, and you all fell for it. And where
Speaker 1: gay people come in is that there are both men
Speaker 1: and women who are gay, which is interesting, and so
Speaker 1: they are implicated in this.
Speaker 2: They are implicated in this. I will say, I still
Speaker 2: on the whole think it is actually more straight male
Speaker 2: to have the big jug of protein powder in your kitchen,
Speaker 2: but gay guys do do it well.
Speaker 1: Yes, the protein powder and the protein maxing is obviously
Speaker 1: very straight, but an attention to protein is also very
Speaker 1: like just mom Like it's kind of like following, you
Speaker 1: know what's very straight the food pyramid. Like that, like
Speaker 1: believing in and following the food pyramid and making three
Speaker 1: plates for your three boys and making sure they get
Speaker 1: their chicken and their broccoli and their rice. That is
Speaker 1: also very mom and straight. Yeah, food is complicated obviously
Speaker 1: because it is such a third rail. It's like I
Speaker 1: feel like, honestly, in a post cancel culture world, food
Speaker 1: is still the one thing I don't quite know how
Speaker 1: to talk about Yeah, because people are obsessed with pathologizing everything,
Speaker 1: either accusing you of having an eating disorder, accusing you
Speaker 1: of you know, in terms of meat, veganism, dietary restrictions,
Speaker 1: accusing you of being an ethical in any in whatever
Speaker 1: way they believe in that one moment, if you are
Speaker 1: too ethical, then suddenly you're like a blue haired leftist cuck. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so this is like I do find that nutrition wise,
Speaker 1: it is an interesting question. What is a straight versus
Speaker 1: gay outlook on nutrition? Like what do you think?
Speaker 2: Well, this is like such not to be completely insane,
Speaker 2: but I'm like, this is why we need our institutions back.
Speaker 2: Like we literally need like a standard of eating that
Speaker 2: is like so this is sort of what you should like.
Speaker 2: The food pyramid has fallen and we need to rebuild
Speaker 2: it because we need just like a like here's sort
Speaker 2: of what you should be shooting for. It's neither good
Speaker 2: nor bad. It's just average, like feel free to have
Speaker 2: some of this, have some of that, And instead it's
Speaker 2: like everyone is polarized and they're eating in ways that
Speaker 2: are insane.
Speaker 1: I know it's but again it has it goes back
Speaker 1: to marketing and moving product like, the reason all of
Speaker 1: this is happening is just so that people are so
Speaker 1: confused that they are convinced into doing whatever you know,
Speaker 1: Procter and Gamble wants them to do. There is no
Speaker 1: And by the way, if the government were to step
Speaker 1: into making new food pyramid, you know who that would be,
Speaker 1: RFK Junior.
Speaker 2: I know this is why it's not fair. We need
Speaker 2: good government. I want government issued meals.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's literally my number one dream.
Speaker 2: I would I would love that.
Speaker 1: Well, what's interesting about and also is this is a
Speaker 1: known fact that people say, you know, when they're sort
Speaker 1: of debunking the protein craze. In general, Americans on average
Speaker 1: do get enough protein. It's not one of the it's
Speaker 1: not one of the things we need more on average,
Speaker 1: and so it's a strange thing to have so much
Speaker 1: emphasis on it. To me, the reason why I became
Speaker 1: sort of obsessed with protein over the last couple of
Speaker 1: years because I was like, ooh, I'm like experimenting with
Speaker 1: working out more and it's like fun to it's I
Speaker 1: want to gain muscle. I never thought of it as
Speaker 1: something I'm doing for my general health. It was always
Speaker 1: a vanity thing, you.
Speaker 2: Know, I've heard that the next big craze is going
Speaker 2: to be fiber. Yes.
Speaker 1: No, everyone has been saying that, Yeah, it's.
Speaker 2: The thing gay appropriation once again.
Speaker 1: I know, No, I you know I have straight women
Speaker 1: in my life have borrowed back when I would take
Speaker 1: Pure for Men have borrowed my Pure for Men pill
Speaker 1: because they are apparently because they thought they were better
Speaker 1: than other fiberpills. I do think that's been debunked. Unfortunately.
Speaker 1: I think it's the exact same as.
Speaker 2: Any other thing. Yeah, I'm just taking them meta mucil. Now,
Speaker 2: what are you so?
Speaker 1: I have a I don't. I we need to move on.
Speaker 1: But maybe there's no time for us to actually go
Speaker 1: into this. But I'm interested in the process of something
Speaker 1: normal and conventional becoming a trend, because there are trends
Speaker 1: that are new, unique, updated things Like a trend could be,
Speaker 1: you know, tiny sunglasses. I'm not saying that's new and
Speaker 1: has just been invented, but that is something that you
Speaker 1: didn't see as much of before and now you're seeing
Speaker 1: more of. But protein is something that is so classic.
Speaker 1: It's like seeing the American flag is trending, Like it
Speaker 1: is something that is so classic that it really takes
Speaker 1: a big push to make it into a trend. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I think maybe that's what's straight about it. Like,
Speaker 1: to me, a gay trend has to be niche that
Speaker 1: then enters the mainstream. But as straight trend, it's like
Speaker 1: the lack of imagination, you have to have to think
Speaker 1: protein is an interesting thing to promote. Yeah, it's very
Speaker 1: like Thursday Nights on NBC.
Speaker 2: Well, in that case, I love it period.
Speaker 1: How are you doing okay? Next call? Hi?
Speaker 5: Sam? Did you ever finish the Shards?
Speaker 4: And George, what are you reading?
Speaker 2: I did finish The Shards last week, two weeks ago. Uh.
Speaker 2: I really enjoyed it. I felt like it was I
Speaker 2: haven't read like a quote unquote page turner in a while,
Speaker 2: and that one I felt like a little kid again,
Speaker 2: kind of glued to the book. And I will say
Speaker 2: it didn't end as satisfyingly as I had hoped, and
Speaker 2: that's all I'll say about that. I loved everything leading
Speaker 2: up to that.
Speaker 1: Did it make you want to read more Brett Easton Ellis?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I actually did kind of like his vibe. It's my
Speaker 2: first Brett Eastnelli's book, and.
Speaker 1: It's such a hard one to start with. Because it's like,
Speaker 1: I feel like it's his longest.
Speaker 2: It was long as hell, but it hit it was juicy.
Speaker 1: I am actually rereading a book, which I'm ashamed to
Speaker 1: say I do very rarely.
Speaker 2: I have very rarely.
Speaker 1: I have this need for newness at all times, even
Speaker 1: though I really think that, you know, much like the
Speaker 1: second sip of a wine is more complex than the
Speaker 1: first ship. I think the second time you read a
Speaker 1: book often you get way more out of it than
Speaker 1: the first. But I am, no, that's amazing.
Speaker 2: I think that's great.
Speaker 1: I am rereading this book called Satn Island by Tom McCarthy.
Speaker 1: It is about it's very like my interest circa twenty
Speaker 1: fifteen when I first picked it up. It's about someone
Speaker 1: who is a corporate anthropologist. So his job is to
Speaker 1: like study human behavior for a company that then you know,
Speaker 1: sells products to them. And he was working on the
Speaker 1: Great Report, which is basically like a report on the
Speaker 1: behavior of like the entire world. But it's very sort
Speaker 1: of weird and avant garde and sort of post post
Speaker 1: post postmodern. And the reason I was inspired to reread
Speaker 1: it is because, as listeners of the podcast might know,
Speaker 1: I was rereading or I was reading for the first
Speaker 1: time this book of Zadie Smith Essays that contained this
Speaker 1: famous essay she wrote that was called like two Directions
Speaker 1: for the novel or something or two ways for the novel,
Speaker 1: And one of them was like sort of a conventional
Speaker 1: realist novel with like a bunch of different characters and
Speaker 1: different themes. And then the other one was this super
Speaker 1: weird novel called Remainder by the same author, which I've
Speaker 1: also read and I liked less, and so that inspired
Speaker 1: me to reread this book. And while we're on the
Speaker 1: topic of books, I just want to very quickly say,
Speaker 1: we got another call asking us to recommend books that
Speaker 1: are similar to The Secret History, and I guess I
Speaker 1: would say, what about Brideshead Revisited, which is kind of
Speaker 1: the og Secret History.
Speaker 2: Oh, I've never read that.
Speaker 1: And also, if you want a book set in academia,
Speaker 1: I love the book Lucky Jim by Kingsley. Amus. Next call, Next.
Speaker 2: Call I Sam and George.
Speaker 6: Last time I called in I mumbled a ton, so
Speaker 6: I'm not going to do that this time.
Speaker 1: Hamy.
Speaker 6: I have a question about miss Charlie Xux. She you know,
Speaker 6: had a great brat era, but she's pivoting into acting.
Speaker 6: She's like going to be in like twenty movies and
Speaker 6: was on SML. So I want to hear YouTube geniuses
Speaker 6: come up with like what a movie is going to
Speaker 6: win her the oscar?
Speaker 3: Like, what is the campaign?
Speaker 6: What is the role? How are we going to get
Speaker 6: her that little gold Man? Should she be the sexy
Speaker 6: step mom in a drama and she has tenants of
Speaker 6: screen time steals the show? Should she fall into a
Speaker 6: magical world Narnie style? Should she have Sandra Bullock's role
Speaker 6: in a reboot of Speed where that bus is zooming around?
Speaker 9: Yeah?
Speaker 6: I would love to know your guys, just thoughts. I
Speaker 6: love you both, fearly love from Alaska.
Speaker 1: Work it out, Wow, work it out out.
Speaker 2: Shout out to Alaska. I like this question because I'm like,
Speaker 2: I feel like Charlie as an actress. The Oscars loves
Speaker 2: someone to play against type, like people love to see
Speaker 2: like a transformation. So I think she would have to
Speaker 2: play like a dowdy mother who was like dealing with
Speaker 2: intergenerational trauma and it's like very and maybe it's even
Speaker 2: in like the Victorian era and like essentially like maybe
Speaker 2: like her son is at war and she's like thinking
Speaker 2: about him quietly for like two hours, like maybe you
Speaker 2: never even see him.
Speaker 1: So I'm sharing my screen with you, which I just remembered.
Speaker 1: So you did see me googling Mariah Carey Precious. Oh and.
Speaker 2: My browser was blocking it, so I missed it.
Speaker 1: Got it? I wanted to address that in case you
Speaker 1: had seen it. I was trying to remember what the
Speaker 1: famous like, Okay, well it ended up just googling Mariah
Speaker 1: Carey pr and it's now showing me who her publicity
Speaker 1: team is.
Speaker 2: I have been wondering, Yeah, totally.
Speaker 1: You know, recently, some a clip of Precious was randomly
Speaker 1: going viral on my feet and it's the clip where
Speaker 1: Precious goes to see Mariah Carey, who is playing a
Speaker 1: social worker. Now, of course, you know, there's an argument
Speaker 1: to be made that that movie is evil, and I
Speaker 1: definitely recognize that argument. However, we have to admit that
Speaker 1: every single woman in that film is giving the performance
Speaker 1: of her career, and it sucks that it's all in
Speaker 1: the service of this narrative.
Speaker 2: But it's facts, fully right, You're fully right.
Speaker 1: I mean, Monique, is that is like a generation defining
Speaker 1: If the movie was more well written, that would be
Speaker 1: a generation defining performance.
Speaker 2: Well, literally, what was going on over there? How are
Speaker 2: they all so? I know that acting over there?
Speaker 1: No, it's crazy. I mean even Mariah who famously, I
Speaker 1: mean her one movie flop, she's not you know, you
Speaker 1: wouldn't think of her as someone who has acting range.
Speaker 1: She's doing a great job Paul at Patton anyway. So
Speaker 1: I was trying to think, like, should Charlie do something
Speaker 1: that is sort of Mariah Carey? Im precious You're going
Speaker 1: more period drama. I'm going more rim like present day
Speaker 1: set movie in like in London that's about kind of
Speaker 1: like a working class community in London, and Charlie is
Speaker 1: you know, but this has not been filmed yet, and
Speaker 1: then it would take even longer to come out. So
Speaker 1: I'm just thinking about her age. She could play a mother,
Speaker 1: she could play a teacher, she could play honestly, a
Speaker 1: reporter that is reporting a big story about, you know,
Speaker 1: water pollution in the community or something like that. I
Speaker 1: like that, And then I think, in a completely different direction,
Speaker 1: I think Charlie could be then you m in James Bond, Well, yes,
Speaker 1: because I that's fun, because I think both of us
Speaker 1: are going very obvious with this question. Which is like, okay,
Speaker 1: what's an oscary role? But I think and then of course,
Speaker 1: the less imaginative thing is being like, okay, well she
Speaker 1: should play an actress or a pop star, whatever she's
Speaker 1: doing in that movie that she's writing herself. But I
Speaker 1: think if she were to do a cunty role that
Speaker 1: isn't someone in an entertainment industry, that would be fun,
Speaker 1: like a CEO, an editor in chief of a women's magazine,
Speaker 1: someone who is, you know, a weapons manufacturer. That's why
Speaker 1: I think being em and James Bond could be a
Speaker 1: real breakthrough for her.
Speaker 2: That could be a real breakthrough. Not Oscar worthy, but
Speaker 2: it would be a breakthrough. It would be fun for sure.
Speaker 1: Because I think people think people think playing against type
Speaker 1: for her would mean dressed down, but actually playing against
Speaker 1: type with her would mean not messy like super type
Speaker 1: A and buttoned up. She plays Margaret Thatcher, Yes, exactly,
Speaker 1: she should play Margaret that It's called young the Iron
Speaker 1: Lady too. No more free handouts vibes. That's the full
Speaker 1: time idle vibes.
Speaker 2: It would be like it would be about Margaret Thatcher,
Speaker 2: like when she's young, like being wronged by like people
Speaker 2: getting free stuff, and like it's sort of her villain
Speaker 2: origin story.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like there was one maybe she had one experience
Speaker 1: where everyone else got free stuff and she didn't. Or
Speaker 1: it's like everyone was handing out the free government tunics
Speaker 1: and all the rest of the people's fit and hers
Speaker 1: was like too small or too big, and she was like, wow,
Speaker 1: I've always thought that a one size fits all approach
Speaker 1: doesn't work. It turns out no one should have healthcare.
Speaker 2: I think that could really work.
Speaker 9: Hey, guys, what are your thoughts on dating someone who's
Speaker 9: really hot, has good morals, votes, loves you one conditionally,
Speaker 9: but just is a little bit dumb, Like you regularly
Speaker 9: get to a world events and history, et cetera. To
Speaker 9: this person. They have plenty of other skills, but just
Speaker 9: like general knowledge is not one of them.
Speaker 2: Okay, think that feeling when general knowledge is not one
Speaker 2: of the skills.
Speaker 1: Damn for general knowledge to not be one of the
Speaker 1: skills is tough. I also I do want to kind
Speaker 1: of make a draw a line between intelligence and general knowledge.
Speaker 1: What you're describing is someone being uninformed, which in fact
Speaker 1: can be fixed and is not difficult. Like I think
Speaker 1: it can take a couple of years, but you know,
Speaker 1: you teach this person this is the morning news digest.
Speaker 1: You should read. These are a couple of books about
Speaker 1: world history. Maybe let's sit down together. You know, this
Speaker 1: is sort of like a big oaf of a man.
Speaker 1: He can barely like swing his limbs around without knocking
Speaker 1: over a picture of pink lemonade. You sit him down,
Speaker 1: You say, we're gonna watch the evening news. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: that to me is fixable. Intelligence is a tough one.
Speaker 2: Well, I was I'm torn on I wish we had
Speaker 2: an example of the intelligence because right now I'm thinking
Speaker 2: I'm more on your first statement, where it sounds like
Speaker 2: he is the total package, except like so he doesn't
Speaker 2: know like about the Revolutionary War, like and I'm sort
Speaker 2: of like, like if the other skills are like he
Speaker 2: knows how to cook, or like he knows how to
Speaker 2: like he has like a good sense of direction or something. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Like I'm like that counts too, That counts towards intelligence,
Speaker 2: Like being able to like win at trivial pursuit is
Speaker 2: not necessarily intelligence.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're also saying, you know, he has good morals
Speaker 1: and he votes correctly without having general knowledge. That's emotional intelligence.
Speaker 2: To know you can't buy that. You can't you can't
Speaker 2: buy that.
Speaker 1: Like there are people that have so much general knowledge,
Speaker 1: too much in fact, and you know they are voting
Speaker 1: for insane things out there in the world. But I
Speaker 1: have to say, you know, I must admit that it
Speaker 1: would bother me if my significant other lacked general knowledge
Speaker 1: to use your terminology. So I understand where you're coming from,
Speaker 1: and I think it's something that can be taught. I
Speaker 1: am a little bit more interested in the question of
Speaker 1: genuinely if if someone is a little actually dumb, cause
Speaker 1: that is challenging.
Speaker 2: It's so specific because it's like how are you dumb?
Speaker 2: Like there are metrics in which I am dumb, But
Speaker 2: I'm like, like, I feel like if it's like sort
Speaker 2: of like if you were to tell me, like, hey,
Speaker 2: could you like take care of this child? Could you
Speaker 2: take care of my child for the day? My child
Speaker 2: is too could you take care of her for the day?
Speaker 1: You could figure it out.
Speaker 2: I'd figure it out, but I'd have a lot of
Speaker 2: questions and it wouldn't come naturally. Uh, And like like
Speaker 2: even if it was like okay, like, uh, there's a
Speaker 2: chicken in the fridge and you like my mother is
Speaker 2: coming over, Can you please prepare it a period?
Speaker 1: I'd be like, okay, well that is simply just cooking.
Speaker 1: That is I would say that falls under general knowledge.
Speaker 2: Well, and I think, yeah, I think I think there's
Speaker 2: a world in which yeah, I guess. How would you
Speaker 2: define a little dumb.
Speaker 1: I think a little dumb is, to be honest, I
Speaker 1: define it as like someone who says something that is
Speaker 1: completely uninteresting and thinks it's groundbreaking, like I think of this.
Speaker 1: So this is honestly, I think about it so often
Speaker 1: when I go home degrease, Like you talk to Greek
Speaker 1: guys and they will have this like they'll just be like.
Speaker 10: The thing with men and women is like you have
Speaker 10: to like women expect you to be romantic, but they
Speaker 10: don't know how they want you to be a romantic,
Speaker 10: Like they just think of this thing. It's like, so
Speaker 10: what you're saying is sort of like a cliche line
Speaker 10: a guy would say in a movie before the woman
Speaker 10: broke up with him.
Speaker 2: Like or.
Speaker 1: I mean, here's an example. It's like when people have
Speaker 1: really lukewarm opinions about something like cancel culture and think
Speaker 1: it's interesting, or when people are really you know, inspired
Speaker 1: by by the show the newsroom, like just like things,
Speaker 1: just like your brain is simple and so it is
Speaker 1: easy to hit the right buttons and make it go off.
Speaker 2: No, I I now that you're saying that. I know
Speaker 2: exactly what you mean, and it's it. That is tough.
Speaker 2: If it's like dumb as in like uninteresting and uninspiring,
Speaker 2: that is kind of unfortunately they like fantasy of like
Speaker 2: the dumb guy who's like so sweet and good is
Speaker 2: like not like it's like if they're like really genuinely
Speaker 2: dumb like that, like it's kind of it's over for me.
Speaker 1: And it's also I do get I would get embarrassed,
Speaker 1: like in social situations, like it's not a nice thing
Speaker 1: to admit, but like I would hate to be in
Speaker 1: the position of having to like explain myself for dating
Speaker 1: someone who is saying dumb things in this company. Yeah
Speaker 1: I've been in those Yeah, yeah, I've been in those situations.
Speaker 1: Not with my but I've been I've had friends of
Speaker 1: mine dates someone who like clearly is a dummy, and
Speaker 1: everyone this sort of has to like pause when it's
Speaker 1: their turn to speak and be like share share a
Speaker 1: little cutie.
Speaker 2: That is tough.
Speaker 1: That is really tough.
Speaker 2: I is there anything that like I was trying to
Speaker 2: think of, Like this question was make me think about
Speaker 2: our partners, and I was kind of like like, like,
Speaker 2: is there any dumbness that you overlook? Because I was
Speaker 2: thinking about like like Misha is really unaware of like
Speaker 2: internet culture like at all, and mostly that's like fine,
Speaker 2: but it will be funny to be like have you
Speaker 2: heard about this? And he's like no, And it's just
Speaker 2: sort of that thing where it's like I'm I'm I'm
Speaker 2: just like it. My role is like always explaining what
Speaker 2: is on the internet.
Speaker 1: The thing is because I have also I have that
Speaker 1: role in various not necessarily with Matthew, but with friendships
Speaker 1: I have. It's easy to take that as meaning that
Speaker 1: you are somehow smarter, but in many ways it means
Speaker 1: you are dumber, you know what I mean. Like it
Speaker 1: is it's like I mean, it depends, of course what
Speaker 1: the other person is doing instead of being on the
Speaker 1: Internet at that time. But it's like I've had to
Speaker 1: explain stupid Internet things to someone knowing that they are
Speaker 1: smarter than me and spend their time reading books rather
Speaker 1: than you know, being online. Okay, I have an answer
Speaker 1: to what is the dumb things Matthew and I overlook
Speaker 1: on one another. I hope it doesn't get mad at this.
Speaker 1: For him, it is a lack of spatial reasoning in
Speaker 1: the on a small scale, so for example, trying to
Speaker 1: make a salad in a bowl that's too that's self
Speaker 1: evidently too small, just being like, yeah, I can definitely
Speaker 1: dress this salad in like a like a bowl.
Speaker 2: That's like for Cereal, that's so funny.
Speaker 1: And then for me it's actually spatial awareness on a
Speaker 1: larger scale, which I've talked about before, which is a
Speaker 1: lack of a sense of direction. Like I really am
Speaker 1: like a little child when I'm walking around in New
Speaker 1: York City even though it's a grid, like I just am.
Speaker 1: I always have a difficult time orienting myself knowing what
Speaker 1: direction I'm going to. And I do think each of
Speaker 1: us has learned that it's not something the other person's
Speaker 1: gonna like learn, Yeah, and you just have to like
Speaker 1: be okay with it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I definitely have a horrible sense of direction, and
Speaker 2: I'm mostly I'm like inefficient in many ways in my life,
Speaker 2: like and I think Misha overlooks that, like where it's
Speaker 2: like he like cares about efficiency, like in the grocery store.
Speaker 2: He like has a plan, and I'm like, I'll get
Speaker 2: it done when I get it done, like it takes
Speaker 2: I have a different journey.
Speaker 1: Yeah. God, I'm just thinking that the top of the
Speaker 1: dumb boyfriend is really uh, there's a lot there. I
Speaker 1: also want to say, it's interesting that the two kinds
Speaker 1: of bad boyfriends are almost too dumb and too smart. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if you sort of think about it, because the too
Speaker 1: smart one is almost the stereotype of like a man
Speaker 1: that is so intellectual he becomes a misogynist, like he's
Speaker 1: so focused on his brain that he doesn't see his
Speaker 1: girlfriend as a full person yea. And then the dumb
Speaker 1: one is like so dumb that he doesn't get that
Speaker 1: he should. Like, it's like the dumb one doesn't buy
Speaker 1: a birthday gift because he's stupid. The smart one doesn't
Speaker 1: buy a birthday gift because he has some theory about
Speaker 1: like physical possessions. But both of them are ultimately not
Speaker 1: buying a birthday gift.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's like a really smart thing you just said.
Speaker 1: I think.
Speaker 11: Is sama, George. I did colin earlier about time, but
Speaker 11: I'm calling back with a different theory about pop girls
Speaker 11: and I would love for two of the greatest minds
Speaker 11: of our generation to weigh in. So my friends and
Speaker 11: I were at the Chapel Roon show in LA and
Speaker 11: it got me thinking that I think a big reason
Speaker 11: that why Chapel got so big so quickly is that
Speaker 11: she had really strong appeal to the big three demographics
Speaker 11: of pop girl fandom, so that is straight women, gay guys,
Speaker 11: and gay women. And I think my friends and I
Speaker 11: were actually struggling to think of another pop girl that
Speaker 11: really has all three of these demographics to.
Speaker 4: The same extent that Chapel has.
Speaker 11: I think it's common for people to have two of
Speaker 11: the three, like Dua Lipa as an example. I think
Speaker 11: straight women and gay guys she has, but I don't
Speaker 11: think lesbians cared about du Alipa. Lord is one that
Speaker 11: we were torn on. We were I think Lord actually
Speaker 11: has had all three over the course of her career,
Speaker 11: but I don't think she's had all three at the
Speaker 11: same time. But we were really split on that one.
Speaker 11: So yeah, I just wanted to get your guys thoughts.
Speaker 4: Do you agree?
Speaker 11: Can you think of other pop girls that have all
Speaker 11: three the way that Chappel does?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 11: Love for you guys to win in all right, love
Speaker 11: you guys bye.
Speaker 2: I think this is very smart. I really like this call.
Speaker 2: I think I think the obvious one who has them
Speaker 2: all is Gaga true. I think you know who did
Speaker 2: who doesn't anymore. I think Casey Musgraves did with Golden
Speaker 2: Hour and then doesn't anymore.
Speaker 1: I have an answer that you're not gonna like, but
Speaker 1: it is objectively true. Hit me with it, Taylor Swift
Speaker 1: that it's just like we might not like it, but
Speaker 1: it is completely true that Taylor Swift has all three
Speaker 1: and has them bad. Like lesbians literally think she's gay.
Speaker 1: Straight women think they are her like, they're literally like
Speaker 1: she is writing these songs for me and we had
Speaker 1: the same exact experience growing up. And then gay men
Speaker 1: are of course like completely insane and basically like jumping
Speaker 1: off of various windows at all times. Yeah, and I
Speaker 1: just I do actually think it is an underdiscussed part
Speaker 1: of her story is that sort of despite the fact
Speaker 1: that she seems like a very specific kind of blonde
Speaker 1: woman performer, she has this near universal appeal. And of course,
Speaker 1: the thing with her brand of appeal to straight women
Speaker 1: is they will even like there's a sort of inoffensive
Speaker 1: kind of pop culture product that straight women can introduce
Speaker 1: to their boyfriends and husbands. Yeah, I think it's more
Speaker 1: challenging for them to introduce, I don't know, even something
Speaker 1: like Lord to their husbands, whereas I think Taylor Swift
Speaker 1: it reminds me of how straight men love to joke
Speaker 1: about how they watch like Love Island with their girlfriends.
Speaker 2: Uh huh.
Speaker 1: It's just it's actually like kind of the the barrier
Speaker 1: entry is low enough that they're able to kind of
Speaker 1: like hop on and understand it and do it half earnestly,
Speaker 1: half literally mocking their girlfriends and just sort of get
Speaker 1: on board. And so I think, honestly, that would be
Speaker 1: my answer.
Speaker 2: That's a good one. Beyonce I think has all three.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Beyonce has all three.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to think of like who's close, Like I
Speaker 2: think it's interesting. I'm thinking about like Ariana Grande, and
Speaker 2: I actually think like doing Wicked is the closest she's
Speaker 2: gotten to like getting all three.
Speaker 1: That's true actually, because then it's like the whole her
Speaker 1: and Cynthia Revac connection and everyone loves her. I mean,
Speaker 1: does Demi have all three?
Speaker 2: Demi kind of might have all three.
Speaker 1: Actually might have all three, and I would even go
Speaker 1: so far as to say, okay, carry me out. Miley
Speaker 1: has all three, but it's like the niche. It's like
Speaker 1: a minority of all three. Yeah, like there are passion
Speaker 1: there's a passion memory of lesbian's, passionate minority of gay
Speaker 1: men and passionate minority of straight women.
Speaker 2: Yes, but it's not enough. We don't know it.
Speaker 1: It's not enough. And to be honest, I would even
Speaker 1: go so far as to say Pink has in her
Speaker 1: own way all three. It's just not the ones we
Speaker 1: would interact with. But I think lesbians love pink.
Speaker 2: Well, we actually got a comment somewhere that was like
Speaker 2: mad at.
Speaker 1: Us, that was like that we erased lesbian fandom.
Speaker 2: No, no, the opposite. They were like, lesbians don't love pink.
Speaker 2: Don't say that. And I was like, WHOA, Okay.
Speaker 1: That's interesting. I've known lesbians who love pink. So maybe
Speaker 1: you get your facts straight, Chica, Yeah, say Sam and George.
Speaker 11: So, my friends and I were at the Heim show
Speaker 11: in La a few days ago. We had one observation
Speaker 11: and one question. So the observation was that we were
Speaker 11: all really surprised that Alana was actually the main talker
Speaker 11: in between songs. She was like big bits and telling
Speaker 11: stories and jokes, whereas we thought that would be SD's
Speaker 11: role as like the stand up comedia in so they
Speaker 11: kind of subverted our expectations on that one. And now
Speaker 11: the question, so we have we wanted to bring back
Speaker 11: the Heimlich game. We're thinking about other bands with three
Speaker 11: women and non binary people. So of these three bands, Heim, Muna,
Speaker 11: and Boy Genius, which one is the Danielle, which one
Speaker 11: is st and which one is Alana? This might break
Speaker 11: the game, but we have our ideas of who's who.
Speaker 11: Would love to hear your take.
Speaker 5: All right, love you guys. Bye.
Speaker 2: Okay, First of all, this is the same color of
Speaker 2: the chapel roone call.
Speaker 1: Oh no is it?
Speaker 2: It's yeah? Because she said, like I just called in
Speaker 2: about him, But I have another question.
Speaker 1: Oh whiopsis?
Speaker 2: Well, I mean shout out. I think I think Muna
Speaker 2: is SD because Muna loves comedy and Muna has a podcast,
Speaker 2: and Muna has a podcast. I think you know what though,
Speaker 2: what Heim's vertical video output is nearing st levels? Oh
Speaker 2: my god, you know what I mean? Not really, but
Speaker 2: I'm listening.
Speaker 1: Wait, you don't I feel like I'm all Heim does
Speaker 1: is do vertical videos that are like various dance challenges
Speaker 1: and memes, and like they're being so silly and they're
Speaker 1: always making funny faces together and I almost think they're
Speaker 1: like outsilly ing Muna, really, is this not like so
Speaker 1: much of your feed?
Speaker 2: No, it's not.
Speaker 1: That's so funny. I'm doing the very unhelpful thing of
Speaker 1: being like, don't you know, don't you know this?
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm looking, I'm looking at their Instagram now
Speaker 2: is that you're talking?
Speaker 1: I just feel like it's always some It's always some
Speaker 1: dance challenge with Jimmy fallon with them.
Speaker 2: I'm like, legit, like not seeing that on their on
Speaker 2: their ig.
Speaker 1: That is shocking to me. To me, I mean, listen,
Speaker 1: maybe they maybe they've regretted their choices and have deleted
Speaker 1: the videos. To me, when I when I envisioned Heim, okay,
Speaker 1: time to me the music aside, because I like the
Speaker 1: music of all three bands. Iim is doing a vertical
Speaker 1: video dance that ends in them doing a funny face.
Speaker 1: Muna is they have a podcast and their guest is
Speaker 1: Caleb Herron and boy Genius is they're randomly dating one another. Yeah,
Speaker 1: boy Genius is like the two It's like Lucy and
Speaker 1: uh Julian are dating and then Phoebe Bridgers is dating
Speaker 1: you know, Harris Dick consider or something.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean I think we have to at
Speaker 2: least agree that boy Genius is Danielle.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 2: And so the question is Alana or Muna is wait?
Speaker 1: Sorry, Alana arresty. Well, I do think in a sense,
Speaker 1: Muna is a Lana because they're like younger coded hmm,
Speaker 1: that's true, and more like they're like care free and
Speaker 1: uh music, you know, like soundtrack soundtrack to like a
Speaker 1: cool movie. Sure, sure, sure, but then that would make
Speaker 1: I'm esty. I'm telling you. Heim is going Esti mode.
Speaker 2: Okay, So him is Esti I'm okay. I mean I
Speaker 2: see what you mean. Like they're they're silly. They're like
Speaker 2: like Muna likes comedy, but like in a sort of
Speaker 2: prestige way, like.
Speaker 1: They like part of the comedy community. Muna is part
Speaker 1: of the comedy community, right, Like they've been accepted into
Speaker 1: the comedy community.
Speaker 2: Right, whereas Heime is doing comedy like like Estie would.
Speaker 1: Yes, exactly, I'm sorry, Sam. Go to Heim's Instagram and
Speaker 1: go on the reels. Tab you are gaslaighting me boots,
Speaker 1: well the reel and.
Speaker 3: They're not.
Speaker 1: Go to the reels, tap and tell me what you're seeing.
Speaker 1: Is every single one of them not a dance challenge.
Speaker 2: They're literally not. They're making videos, but they're I'm I'm
Speaker 2: not seeing any I'm okay, here's a dance challenge after
Speaker 2: I've scrolled. Okay, the first one's dance challenge. Okay, the
Speaker 2: fourth ones a dance challenge. I mean, they exist. I'm
Speaker 2: just saying it's not it's not as prominent as what
Speaker 2: you were saying.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's well, I'm looking at the rest of these.
Speaker 1: I'm loving. First of all, I love the question we
Speaker 1: got that was just dew. We like penises. I would
Speaker 1: say for me, it's a yes.
Speaker 2: It's a yes for me.
Speaker 1: I like the question. You know, we get this one
Speaker 1: a lot, which is what do you do if you
Speaker 1: hate your job? Yeah, we have answered it a lot
Speaker 1: in the past that I'm afraid that we don't have
Speaker 1: any new insights in that vein.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but listen to him's new album, but I quit.
Speaker 1: Listen to him's album. Might quit. Someone called about the
Speaker 1: content versus context binary, which I wanna this is maybe
Speaker 1: not the time for it, but I'm it's like one
Speaker 1: of my favorite things we've talked about is that we
Speaker 1: are going from an era of content to an era
Speaker 1: of context. Like what's more valuable now is not more content,
Speaker 1: it's more context because there's so much content out there
Speaker 1: that the person that's actually offering something new as a
Speaker 1: person who's able to recontextualize it. So that's fun, but
Speaker 1: it does.
Speaker 2: Get complicated when contextualization becomes content becomes content.
Speaker 1: That's the thing because then if you're, for example, if
Speaker 1: you are doing a let's say you're releasing a voter
Speaker 1: guide or let's say you're releasing a breakdown of a
Speaker 1: recent US story, you have to ask yourself, are you
Speaker 1: actually providing context or are you just creating content.
Speaker 2: My least favorite context is people that are like, did
Speaker 2: you know that in two thousand and three this happened
Speaker 2: and it caused this. I'm like okay, Like I'm sort
Speaker 2: of like, yeah, we can all pull like random things
Speaker 2: that have happened, Like what is the broader arc that
Speaker 2: you're trying to write, Like, is this like a six
Speaker 2: week course on like yeah, two thousand and three, or
Speaker 2: are you just like saying, like, isn't it crazy that
Speaker 2: this boat crashed?
Speaker 1: I know, well, what you're talking about also is very
Speaker 1: like the There's been a huge increase in celebrating anniversaries
Speaker 1: of pop culture events. It's always like today, Mark's the
Speaker 1: seventeenth anniversary of Demita Joe. I'm like, I love Dmia Joe,
Speaker 1: but I actually don't need to know about the seven
Speaker 1: teenth anniversary.
Speaker 2: That is unfortunately one of my favorite things.
Speaker 1: Where they're like.
Speaker 2: Twenty second anniversary of Blank Yeah, and I'm like, damn slow.
Speaker 1: News dash And I know that it's also like sort
Speaker 1: of like they're doing it because they want people to
Speaker 1: make fun of them.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Very quickly. People have been really asking your thoughts on
Speaker 1: Tyra Banks releasing hot ice cream, which is something you've
Speaker 1: always wished what happened?
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I've always I thought ice cream was far
Speaker 2: too cold. This is a known opinion of mine, and
Speaker 2: I stand by it. That being said, do I want
Speaker 2: to be hot? Not necessarily. I've always said I want
Speaker 2: lukewarm ice cream that it still has its texture.
Speaker 1: So you don't want like a crembulet or like a.
Speaker 2: God No, if anything, the closest thing that I want
Speaker 2: is a soft cookie. Like a soft cookie to me,
Speaker 2: is the closest thing we have to warm ice cream.
Speaker 2: I see, I see, And.
Speaker 1: So don't you don't like like a panacatta or like
Speaker 1: a custardy dessert. I mean cheesecake. Okay, cheese cake, I
Speaker 1: would say, is pretty close to room temperature ice cream.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's you know, You're right, You're right, it's close,
Speaker 2: but it's not exactly on the nose. And I don't
Speaker 2: know what science she's cooking up. I have not like
Speaker 2: watched the full video, even though people have sent it
Speaker 2: to me. I was just like, I don't want to support, oh,
Speaker 2: someone losing their mind.
Speaker 1: Yeah. You know, there's a whole genre of things people
Speaker 1: send to us that we just never address, and this
Speaker 1: is one of them. And I actually think that's I
Speaker 1: think there's a way to drive yourself crazy where you're
Speaker 1: like interacting with something like that and constantly being like
Speaker 1: stop sending please, we've seen it, and then you it
Speaker 1: like makes you drive yourself crazy. Honestly, one thing like that,
Speaker 1: And I want to say this publicly because we've never
Speaker 1: addressed this. The meme.
Speaker 2: Address it.
Speaker 1: The meme where there are two doors once they one
Speaker 1: says top a twink, and the other one says stop
Speaker 1: and think, and there are a lot of people lined
Speaker 1: up behind the door that says top a twink. Okay,
Speaker 1: So this is sent to us once a day. It
Speaker 1: has been happening for pretty much five years. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: I just want to say, all of we've seen it.
Speaker 1: You don't understand the frequency with which it is sent
Speaker 1: to us. This is something that is reposted by meme
Speaker 1: accounts daily, like it is something that has existed out there.
Speaker 1: Every day, someone discovers it and sends it and says, oh,
Speaker 1: there's a straight shooter if I've ever heard one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they do do that, and we appreciate support. But
Speaker 2: we have seen it.
Speaker 1: We have seen it, and we think it's high hilarious.
Speaker 2: As we're wrapping up, I'm like, yes, what's your mood
Speaker 2: like right now?
Speaker 1: It's not good, But it has nothing to do with
Speaker 1: you or this recording. It has to do with like
Speaker 1: me being in a bad mood.
Speaker 2: How is your mood the same? I guess. I was like, sometimes,
Speaker 2: if I'm being honest, when we do these and we
Speaker 2: both start in bad moods, we end in amazing moods.
Speaker 2: And I was like kind of hoping for that, like
Speaker 2: take off, I know, but we will push through. And
Speaker 2: I'm coming to New York next week. We're going to
Speaker 2: start and then you're coming to LA. We're gonna do
Speaker 2: a lot of amazing records.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to pull up our straighter lab email because
Speaker 1: there were some written ones, and of course my internet
Speaker 1: is like not loading.
Speaker 2: Oh I can do that. This one is from Toronto.
Speaker 1: We can.
Speaker 2: I can just read it out loud, me to side, Okay.
Speaker 2: I'm taking trans vocal lessons and in these classes usually
Speaker 2: your first assignment is to find out who your voice
Speaker 2: inspiration is a celebrity or a podcaster whose tone rasp
Speaker 2: intonation you like to work towards your men? Who's your
Speaker 2: vocal inspiration or if you were to transition mask or
Speaker 2: fem you pick who would it be.
Speaker 1: Oh that's a good one.
Speaker 2: That is a good question.
Speaker 1: What is yours? This is a fun one to end on.
Speaker 2: Well, this is an interesting one as especially considering our
Speaker 2: voices are our jobs for this podcast currently. And I
Speaker 2: think it's weird because I've never considered my voice to
Speaker 2: be particularly good like I have, Like when I was
Speaker 2: a kid, I went to like speech therapy because I have,
Speaker 2: like a something in my nasal path is weird that
Speaker 2: makes my voice sound nasally, so I had to like
Speaker 2: go to speech therapy to like it' stop talking like
Speaker 2: this and and so I'm like, I even feel like
Speaker 2: what I do already is put on, but I don't
Speaker 2: know how. I think it's sort of like a I
Speaker 2: also think you have a potentially interesting answer similar because
Speaker 2: I had, like, because I moved around to different regions
Speaker 2: of the US, I never like got one accent. Like
Speaker 2: there was a point when I was in Midwest long
Speaker 2: enough where I got a Midwestern accent, but then I
Speaker 2: moved and but I never picked up like a Southern accent.
Speaker 2: So I'm just like this sort of vague, but I
Speaker 2: don't know what my voice fantasy would be.
Speaker 1: Do you have one? I know it's I don't. I
Speaker 1: The dream, of course, is like a neutral voice that
Speaker 1: only sounds slightly sophisticated, because you don't because it's so
Speaker 1: easy to sound either quote too gay or too like pretentious,
Speaker 1: like there is just anytime you're expressing an opinion in
Speaker 1: an audio mode, it's easy to become obnoxious or sound condescending,
Speaker 1: or sound like you're way too sure of yourself. This
Speaker 1: is I m'd say it's a humiliating thing. But I
Speaker 1: think that because both of us have listened to this
Speaker 1: slave culture gap fest semi ironically for the last ten years,
Speaker 1: I do think often I will emulate Stephen Metcalf's vocal patterns.
Speaker 2: Oh interesting, or at least attempt to.
Speaker 1: I would say that it would be really nice for
Speaker 1: me to have a vote goal, because what ends up
Speaker 1: happening with me is there are so many people that
Speaker 1: don't want to sound like that. I'm constantly having to
Speaker 1: find my I'm constantly finding myself going a little too
Speaker 1: far in a direction I don't want to and then
Speaker 1: bringing it back such that I end up having an
Speaker 1: almost monotone, boring voice because I don't want to sound
Speaker 1: like too much like one or other person. And so
Speaker 1: this is definitely true and stand up. Yeah, Like, there
Speaker 1: are just certain other gay comedians that it is easy
Speaker 1: to emulate if you allow yourself. I think for straight people,
Speaker 1: so many of them fall into John Mulaney, so many
Speaker 1: of them fall into Luis c. K, so many of
Speaker 1: them fall into like like Bill Burr, like it's it's
Speaker 1: such a thing, or even like a lot of old
Speaker 1: comedians will fall into Maria Bamford. Yeah. Yeah, so so
Speaker 1: it would be nice. It would be nice to have
Speaker 1: a vocal a vocal goal. Okay, I'll say this.
Speaker 2: Is okay, here we go, let's hear it. I can't wait.
Speaker 1: Wait, did you have something you wanted to say?
Speaker 2: Well, I was gonna say that. Ever since I've moved
Speaker 2: to LA and of course I've been listening to How
Speaker 2: Long Gone constantly, I do find myself butchering it up
Speaker 2: a little bit more. Really, yeah, I hear myself like
Speaker 2: say more mask things that are like like I have
Speaker 2: like a little cadence of like slightly butcher.
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, like like like.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to think of like it was hard to
Speaker 2: think of an example, but I do find myself like
Speaker 2: almost like it's sort of like a you're gonna want
Speaker 2: to go ahead and do that like that type of thing. Yeah,
Speaker 2: where it's it's not fully like I'm not pretending to
Speaker 2: be straight, but it is like a little bit of
Speaker 2: a straight eye cadence that I've picked up from listening
Speaker 2: to them.
Speaker 1: Do you listen to Doom Scroll?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: So it's the it's a it's an interview show. The
Speaker 1: host name is Joshua Ciderella. He like used to be
Speaker 1: an artist or maybe sell identify an artists I know,
Speaker 1: but is also does this podcast. He's had good people.
Speaker 1: Actually Grimes was just randomly just on it this way.
Speaker 1: But he has what I would describe as like a
Speaker 1: truly like neutral male voice. It's like not too mask
Speaker 1: and not too gay, and I almost think that's like
Speaker 1: best case scenario. And I think, honestly, and I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: if he's listening, it makes him sound a little less
Speaker 1: confident in what he's saying in a little and even
Speaker 1: sometimes a little less smart because he isn't like doming
Speaker 1: the interviewee, which I think is nice. It's nice to
Speaker 1: have a sense of curiosity and not immediately know exactly
Speaker 1: what you want to say. And it's almost like the
Speaker 1: less harmful, the less harmful version of like THEO Vaughn
Speaker 1: doing that but being like a complete moron.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: So I guess that would be one of my vocal
Speaker 1: vocal role models.
Speaker 2: I definitely also when we started this podcast, I remember
Speaker 2: being like that being more of a pressing issue of
Speaker 2: being like how do we want to sound?
Speaker 1: I know, but then you just sort of like find
Speaker 1: all into a pattern.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because it was like I remember like always joking
Speaker 2: at the beginning and being like, we're being Mark Mayeron,
Speaker 2: We're being Pete Holmes, We're being.
Speaker 1: I know, we were so self aware parentheses derogatory sometimes
Speaker 1: like there was just I was so petrified of coming
Speaker 1: across as either stupid or unoriginal or whatever. And you
Speaker 1: just gotta gotta have faith that like on average, you're
Speaker 1: occasionally saying some insightful things.
Speaker 2: God. I also just.
Speaker 1: Want to say, just because this color is talking about transitioning,
Speaker 1: we get a lot of calls from callers who are transitioning.
Speaker 1: I will say it. And we had another one that
Speaker 1: was a trans guy that is wondering if he should,
Speaker 1: like he's a gay trans guy, and he's wondering if
Speaker 1: he needs to abandon indie rock because he needs to
Speaker 1: get into pop girlies because he's a gay guy. And
Speaker 1: I just want to say, no, you should. It's cool
Speaker 1: to like being a gay guy who likes indie rock.
Speaker 1: I think is honestly one of the most ethical things
Speaker 1: you can be at this moment in time.
Speaker 2: I completely disagree.
Speaker 1: Wow, really.
Speaker 2: I think you have to like let go of indie
Speaker 2: rock for like five years and like be the dumb
Speaker 2: gay guy you've heard about in the stories, and then
Speaker 2: you have to find your way back home like once
Speaker 2: you've fully immersed yourself. Yeah, I think it like hits
Speaker 2: harder when you like let go of the wall and
Speaker 2: are sort of like you'll never forget the indie rock
Speaker 2: and you can always you can always revisit and it
Speaker 2: will come back around. But to make the full commitment
Speaker 2: to the like and also just like you'll find yourself
Speaker 2: being like well to have a conversation with these like
Speaker 2: random gig guys I just met, I do actually need
Speaker 2: to know like what Sabrina Carpenter's fifth album was about,
Speaker 2: like rather than the one before, Short and Sweet, like,
Speaker 2: and so you find yourself like becoming encyclopedic about that,
Speaker 2: and I think it's a helpful tool. And then one
Speaker 2: day you'll you know, you'll go back home.
Speaker 1: Do you find yourself having constant conversations about pop stars
Speaker 1: outside of this podcast? Literally yes, Okay, because I don't,
Speaker 1: and it's it's actually always like, actually, something I've really
Speaker 1: like appreciated and enjoyed about our time together is that,
Speaker 1: like I because I know it's something we're going to
Speaker 1: talk about I'm becoming more informed, but I don't feel
Speaker 1: like with the other gay en in my life, that's
Speaker 1: like one of the main topics.
Speaker 2: It's kind of like like drag Race, where of like
Speaker 2: at this point, I watch it in the same way
Speaker 2: that like I think many straight men watch sports, where
Speaker 2: it's like I just need to be able to have
Speaker 2: a conversation with like the gig guy I just met.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. That's true. Well, oh and by the way,
Speaker 1: another thing we keep getting calls about is our thoughts
Speaker 1: on marriage and open relationships, and I'm kind of like, hmmm.
Speaker 2: No, yeah, and mostly I have to agree.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's pretty much it. I enjoyed the question
Speaker 1: that asked us if you got paid seven thousand dollars
Speaker 1: every time you gave Zach Braf a concussion, how many
Speaker 1: concussions would you give him.
Speaker 2: Enough concussions to have three million dollars?
Speaker 1: That's right, and rest in power, Zach Braf.
Speaker 2: Not because I particularly hate him. It's just a cruel,
Speaker 2: cruel world we live in, and of all the ways
Speaker 2: to make three million dollars, that's almost more ethical.
Speaker 1: It is a little bit like you would harm fewer
Speaker 1: people literally you would only in fact harm Zach Braff,
Speaker 1: who's had a pretty long, in full life, full career.
Speaker 1: He got to Dave Florence Pew.
Speaker 2: That must have been fun.
Speaker 1: That must have been great. Not a lot of people
Speaker 1: can say that. No, he was in a hit show.
Speaker 1: He got to literally become an indie Darling filmmaker.
Speaker 2: For a while. He pretty much invented the shins.
Speaker 1: He invented the shins and invented the idea of a
Speaker 1: manic Dixie dream girl. There's enough. If Zach Braff died
Speaker 1: of thirty five million concussions tomorrow, there would be so
Speaker 1: much in his oh bit.
Speaker 2: People would be and people it honestly would be good
Speaker 2: for his career because he could be like like that.
Speaker 2: People would come back around, because people really don't like
Speaker 2: him right now in a way that as soon as
Speaker 2: he were to get thirty five million concussions, he would
Speaker 2: be like a fucking saint. Move over, Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 1: No, completely, it would be. It would it would be
Speaker 1: the chart crcification of Zach Braff, and people would you know,
Speaker 1: Garden State is not a great movie, but it's good
Speaker 1: enough that people can read it like if he died,
Speaker 1: you know, young people who didn't live through the Manic
Speaker 1: Pixie Dream Wars would reclaim it and be like, this
Speaker 1: is actually like really aesthetic. Yeah, that's what they would say.
Speaker 1: They would say, that's really aesthetic, that's really aesthetic.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Manic Pixie Dream Wars is one of that's an
Speaker 2: amazing sentence.
Speaker 1: I mean it's true that was the original Girl Boss.
Speaker 1: You know, they keep inventing archetypes so they can tear
Speaker 1: women down.
Speaker 2: George, I have to sincerely apologize about what because I
Speaker 2: was really against the Zach Braff question and that was
Speaker 2: my favorite one.
Speaker 1: Well, this is and I don't want to like create
Speaker 1: more drama. But but that's why I was like confused.
Speaker 1: I was like, you're not attracted to the fun ones.
Speaker 2: That's not that it's I was sort of like, he
Speaker 2: can I okay, sometimes we also need to stop. We
Speaker 2: literally need to stop. This is a This is an
Speaker 2: interesting exploration. Sometimes when people and shout out to the caller,
Speaker 2: nothing but love, nothing but respect, But when a call
Speaker 2: is trying too hard to be funny, I get turned off.
Speaker 1: Sure, no, I get it, and you're saying your happy
Speaker 1: medium is what movie would win. Charlie and Oscar because
Speaker 1: it's funny enough. But it's not like I'm the joker
Speaker 1: on stage with my notebook doing stand up in Todd
Speaker 1: Phillips as the joker, exactly.
Speaker 2: Exactly.
Speaker 1: That's fair.
Speaker 2: But what I forget is when I don't love a question,
Speaker 2: I can almost answer it with more disdain and more
Speaker 2: abandoned because it's less pressure.
Speaker 1: And and that's the other thing with like the non
Speaker 1: pop culture ones, because I don't want to be part
Speaker 1: of a discourse.
Speaker 2: Honey, you believe in discourse you're in.
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't want to.
Speaker 2: I don't want to.
Speaker 1: So that's it.
Speaker 2: Like this episode is amazing, of course I agree, it's
Speaker 2: going to be not amazing for our editor, shout out sorry,
Speaker 2: and other than that, thanks for listening, thanks for calling.
Speaker 1: And in conclusion, Sam, I was just wondering, what is
Speaker 1: a piece of media you loved in your youth that
Speaker 1: you now hate nothing.
Speaker 2: I the little boy that loved whatever was right, and
Speaker 2: while I'm not able to appreciate it now, it meant
Speaker 2: something then. And I guess I would have to say.
Speaker 2: You know, I will say I was gas lit by
Speaker 2: some things as a child.
Speaker 1: You know, it's funny, is I said that as a joke,
Speaker 1: so we would end there. But I love that you're
Speaker 1: answering question because.
Speaker 2: I never liked you liked I never liked Flubber. I
Speaker 2: was gaslate and just having to tell people that I
Speaker 2: like Flubber. I never liked Flubber.
Speaker 1: You know, this morning I had breakfast with my dear
Speaker 1: friend Jenna. She goes, she was like, it's like she
Speaker 1: was talking about something else, and she goes, it's like,
Speaker 1: how I hate Robin Williams. And I was like, excuse me,
Speaker 1: that's crazy.
Speaker 2: What was her take?
Speaker 1: Did she say? I don't know, but I think it's
Speaker 1: like he's doing too much and it like, which I get,
Speaker 1: and that's of course your first one's first reaction to
Speaker 1: Robin Williams. Then you have to like move past that
Speaker 1: in order to like understand his genius. But I guess,
Speaker 1: but I do think Flebber because you know, just on
Speaker 1: a script level, there's not much happening there. It is
Speaker 1: just him doing too much.
Speaker 2: No, that movie I went and saw in the theaters
Speaker 2: and it was that thing where you're a little kid
Speaker 2: and you're like, I know, I should have liked that more.
Speaker 2: So I'm just gonna say I liked this.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, here's the thing. When we were little kids,
Speaker 1: seeing Robin Williams, Jim Carrey and Eddie Murphy overact could
Speaker 1: be scary. Yeah that's scary.
Speaker 2: That's a lot for a child.
Speaker 1: That's an adult man doing all that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not right, that's not okay.
Speaker 1: Those actors are not safe for children. Those actors should
Speaker 1: be for adults.
Speaker 2: The actor should be for adults. And then the other
Speaker 2: one I want to say is this is going to
Speaker 2: be really controversial, but I can't stop thinking it. I
Speaker 2: love Spice World as a child. I think Spice World
Speaker 2: has some amazing alt comedy bits and it's really impressive
Speaker 2: that the level of humor they were working with. But
Speaker 2: when you rewatch it, it is long as fuck. No,
Speaker 2: it's bad, and they should make a compilation of all
Speaker 2: the amazing bits in it and cut out all that
Speaker 2: fucking filler.
Speaker 1: Spicer wyl would be an amazing movie to cut into
Speaker 1: vertical videos that are shareable online and if anyone over
Speaker 1: there is.
Speaker 2: Thinking, and according to our Joe Sunday interview, the youth
Speaker 2: needs it.
Speaker 1: And I just want to say people are feel free
Speaker 1: to stop commenting on that specific video. I think we've
Speaker 1: heard all the takes we need and by the way,
Speaker 1: none of you are funny.
Speaker 2: Whoa Okay, love y'all, Love y'all, Happy November bye podcast and.
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