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Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George

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Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

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Speaker 2: Armstrong and Getti and he Armstrong and Yeddi.

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Speaker 3: President Biden claimed the country's stronger because of his work

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Speaker 3: to expand NATO support Ukraine, withdraw US forces from Afghanistan,

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Speaker 3: and take on China. In his remarks on Afghanistan, the

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Speaker 3: President only briefly mentioned the thirteen US service members who

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Speaker 3: died in the suicide bombing at the Kabol Airport during

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Speaker 3: the withdrawal of US forces, widely seen as one of

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Speaker 3: the darkest moments of his presidency.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd say so.

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Speaker 4: And also just factually, it's when his ratings tanked and

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Speaker 4: never recovered. It basically ended his presidency. So I realized

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Speaker 4: the President is trying to shape history with his speech.

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Speaker 1: Good luck with that, and horribly undermined his foreign policy

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Speaker 1: goals too, as America was displayed as weak and feckless. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I was just going to say the whole you know,

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Speaker 1: the great saying, which is so true, watch what people do,

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Speaker 1: not what they say. Well, he's already done it, so

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Speaker 1: he can say anything he wants.

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Speaker 2: It's just kind of sad.

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Speaker 4: And useless in my opinion, and according to the Bob

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Speaker 4: Woodward book, it was a real indication to putin all

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Speaker 4: this this administration does not have it to act together

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Speaker 4: in terms of pushback to invading Ukraine when he saw

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Speaker 4: the pull out of Afghanistan, right that was done more.

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Speaker 2: Or less undisputed.

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Speaker 1: Outside of Morning Joe a lot to get to this hour,

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Speaker 1: including a chat with Congressman Tom McClintock about the wildfires

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Speaker 1: in California that absolutely are to a large extent caused

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Speaker 1: by politics or exacerbated by politics. Not climate change policy matters.

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Speaker 1: It absolutely does. But first take a look in the

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Speaker 1: China cabin.

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Speaker 2: Which is admittedly China.

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Speaker 1: China adoping named for a handful of that.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Michael, I had forgotten that guy. Do you

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Speaker 2: have the China's a whole guy China as oh, oh, sir, true.

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Speaker 1: But harsh I thought this story was so interesting. The

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Speaker 1: Wall Street General reporting that China's reigning in it's once free,

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Speaker 1: willing finance sector with purges and pay cuts. Chinese Letursesian

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Speaker 1: ping is bringing the country's financial sector to heal, one

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Speaker 1: banker at a time, and they go through the list

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Speaker 1: of these guys who are often Western educated, who are

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Speaker 1: very skilled, brought in enormous levels of investment and profit

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Speaker 1: to China, which they finance Jesion pings goals for consolidating

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Speaker 1: power and growing China's you know, global influence of that

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Speaker 2: But he is killing the golden goose. It is clear.

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Speaker 1: And I remember when you first brought us this story,

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Speaker 1: some communications had been leaked. I can't remember the exact

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Speaker 1: outlines of the story. But this guy is a real communist, right.

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Speaker 4: I think that's what I was saying to Ian Bremmer

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Speaker 4: there were reports that, based on things she was saying

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Speaker 4: and reading and doing, here's the big story. He's actually

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Speaker 4: a communist. He's not just pretending to be a communist

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Speaker 4: so he can be a dictator. He actually is a communist.

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Speaker 1: I think you were one of the few commentators who

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Speaker 1: took that story as seriously as it should be taken,

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Speaker 1: and which is what does.

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Speaker 2: For us because communism doesn't work, oh no, it's miserable

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Speaker 2: in every way by every measure.

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Speaker 1: So many economists and bankers fear that the shakeup is

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Speaker 1: going to dampen what they call the animal spirits one

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Speaker 1: of my favorite Wall Street expressions. When everybody's feeling positive,

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Speaker 1: it's the animal spirits. Haven't we all felt the animal

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Speaker 1: ennus the animal spirits. Anyway, financiers and regulators are becoming

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Speaker 1: any sophistication as an investor, whatsoever, you understand, the more

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Speaker 1: safe you play at the lower your returns are going

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Speaker 1: to be. China is also losing bankers and regulators with

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Speaker 1: faces complex financial risks that require more sophisticated oversight and

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Speaker 1: animal spirits. Not less, they have trillions of dollars worth

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Speaker 1: of off the books local government debts, they have the biggest

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Speaker 2: A shrinking pop.

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Speaker 1: And they're jailing or purging anybody who has any experience

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Speaker 4: I was looking at some of the videos overbreak of

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Speaker 4: a shrinking population and a shrinking economy. China could do

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Speaker 4: the whole. How did you go bankrupt gradually? Then suddenly

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Speaker 1: And they have horrific sociological problems too. The young people

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Speaker 1: have families, no girls. Well, right, and then so many

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Speaker 1: may never exist. Let's see, there's one other aspect of this.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to get to.

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Speaker 2: Where'd that go?

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Speaker 1: Oh that's all right, We'll move along and come back

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Speaker 1: to it later. Let's see this story. Trump and She

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Speaker 1: face off expect Us China tensions as the two leaders

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Speaker 1: pursue opposing agendas. That's absolutely true, and it's appropriate, and

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Speaker 1: it's good any sort of You can't woo China. You

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Speaker 1: international relations that they will exploit. They are not going

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Speaker 1: to be nice guys. They are not going to help us.

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Speaker 1: They are not going to do anything that is not

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Speaker 1: in their naked self interest. And to wit I like

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Speaker 1: this John Ratcliffe, who's a rare hold over from Trump

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Speaker 1: one's national security team. Ratcliffe is Trump's CIA pick and

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Speaker 1: he is expected to push for bare knuckle spycraft against China.

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Speaker 1: Ratcliffe is not screwing around, which I absolutely love. He's

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Speaker 1: likely to push from more aggressive spying operations targeting Beijing,

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Speaker 1: and that America says is about to take the gloves

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Speaker 1: off and it's shadow boxing with Beijing.

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Speaker 4: Well good, They took their gloves off a long time ago, right.

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Speaker 5: You know?

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Speaker 1: The part that I was trying to find in the

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Speaker 1: analysis of China and becoming more and more communists is

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Speaker 1: ta go ahead, is take the gloves off. We've discussed

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Speaker 4: A boxing thing like I'm taking off the soft gloves

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Speaker 4: and hitting with my bare hand. Or is it a

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Speaker 2: Oh? Or is it.

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Speaker 1: You know, as a former hockey player, it's like a

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Speaker 2: But I don't know what the origin is.

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Speaker 1: Everybody understands what it means, but yeah, what's of gloves

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Speaker 2: Katie? Do you have the answer?

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Speaker 4: Yes, it comes from the practice of boxers removing their

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Speaker 4: gloves before a fight to inflict even more damage. Okay,

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Speaker 4: bare knuckle boxing. I teased yesterday the upside of dueling

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Speaker 4: and how we should bring it back, and it's really interesting,

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Speaker 4: So I hope I get to that today.

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Speaker 1: So anyway, what the article that I can't find. They're

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Speaker 1: making the point that as these headwinds grow and the

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Speaker 1: they're going further down the road of aggressive nationalism, hostility

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Speaker 2: Up with China, we're the best, et cetera.

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Speaker 1: The problem with that is the international community, from you know,

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Speaker 1: China is getting weirder and meaner and more nationalistic, and

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Speaker 2: The next quick look inside the China cabinet China. This

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Speaker 4: Chinese officials have discussed options for TikTok's US operations, including

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Speaker 4: a possible sale to Elon Musk. I have no idea

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Speaker 4: if Elon has any interest in buying TikTok, but you

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Speaker 4: certainly got the money. I was listening to one of

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Speaker 1: Uh yeah, absolutely is my goodness, it's it's indisputable how

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Speaker 1: It's owned by a hostile foreign power. There are laws

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Speaker 1: about that. It's not it is not a complicated First

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Speaker 4: Think it is. That's where it gets complicated. That it's

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Speaker 4: a complicated business ownership. Who gets to do what? How

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Speaker 4: deal with, especially in the computer age, right, exactly. Internet's

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Speaker 1: Don't understand where are their factories? Would be the question

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so it looks like there might actually be an

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Speaker 4: for Trump. Among other things we got coming up, including

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Speaker 4: a congressman who we're friends with, Tom McClintock, wrote a

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Speaker 4: get to that this hour too.

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Speaker 2: Stay around.

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Speaker 6: At Kamala Harris's home in Brentwood, California, police responded to

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Speaker 6: an alleged burglary, but the suspects were instead detained for

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Speaker 6: violating curfew and thanks to Doug Emahoff, both of them

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Speaker 6: are now pregnant.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 4: Wow uh as a gut salt works edgy Hey tounished.

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Speaker 4: So this on kind of that angle, thought this was interesting.

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Speaker 4: Julia Roberts says, f you uses the actual word in

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Speaker 4: an interview to looters as her ten million dollar home

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Speaker 4: continues to be robbed during the LA fires.

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Speaker 1: Wow, Wow, what a beautiful example of the protected class

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Speaker 4: And it was pointed out by someone online that Roberts

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Speaker 2: Few there are supposed to be plates on this bar.

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Speaker 4: This bar is heavy, few and small is the I

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Speaker 2: The kidding.

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Speaker 4: Tom McClintock is a congress person from California. He knows

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Speaker 1: Long time ember of the Natural Race Source's Commission too,

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Speaker 1: much more to come, Stay with us, Armstrong and Getty show,

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Speaker 2: Does the buck stop with you? I mean, you're Governor

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Speaker 2: We're all in this together.

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Speaker 5: We're all better off.

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Speaker 2: We're all better off.

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Speaker 5: We're all better off, and we're working together to take.

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Speaker 4: And there wasn't a yes in there. Does the buck

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Speaker 4: stop with you? To Gavin Newsom? And then haamanahammahammanahamana. And

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Speaker 1: Congressman Tom McClintock represents California's fifth congressional district, longtime friend

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Speaker 1: Bad policy served as kindling for California's wildfires. Tom McClintock

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Speaker 2: You, sir, I'm doing five?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, lay out along in short of your piece

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Speaker 5: Well, it's not altogether complicated. Throughout all recorded history, California

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Speaker 2: Tom.

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Speaker 1: I know you as we value the environment quote unquote

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Speaker 1: But who is this far left environmental cabal in California

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Speaker 5: Well, it's not just California, it's national laws as well.

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Speaker 5: catastrophic wildfire. I mean, all of that excess timber and

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Speaker 5: Either we're going to carry it out or nature is

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Speaker 4: Well, a number of people have made this point, So

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Speaker 5: Well, exactly right, I mean, this is an admission by Newsome.

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Speaker 5: I don't think he realizes it, but it's an admission

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Speaker 2: You're right, You're right.

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Speaker 4: Obviously it is an admission because it's saying this will

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Speaker 5: And at the same time, these laws have hampered our

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Speaker 1: You mentioned the inability of California to build water storage

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Speaker 5: Well, again, it's a question of priorities. And this is

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Speaker 5: this is where people say we should recall Karen Bass,

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Speaker 5: we should recall Gavin Newsom. Well, I'm all for that,

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Speaker 5: but simply replacing one left wing idiolog with another is

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Speaker 4: I know your your piece is all about the the resources,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, again, nothing.

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Speaker 5: Strange about that. If you stop prosecuting crimes, you're going

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Speaker 5: ICE is supposed to be notified so they can be

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Speaker 5: deported out of this country. The sanctuary laws stop that

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Speaker 5: from happening. So I mean, these are again deliberate policies.

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Speaker 5: You know, if you voted for people like Karen Bass

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Speaker 5: and Gavin Newsom, this is what you voted for. And

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Speaker 5: if that surprises you, you weren't paying any attention. Maybe

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Speaker 5: this has been a wake up call that can't be ignored.

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Speaker 2: I'm hoping you're right about that.

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Speaker 4: I was in San Francisco a couple of weeks ago,

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Speaker 4: and the city's already looking cleaner. People have had enough.

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Speaker 4: Maybe that's gonna happen for the LA area or the

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Speaker 4: entire state. Well, let's spand go ahead, and Tom.

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Speaker 5: I was gonna say, we saw that in New York

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Speaker 5: it was crime ridden and decaying. Rudy Giuliani took over

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Speaker 5: and cleaned it all up. Policy matters, and the people

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Speaker 5: that we elect matter because they determined policy.

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Speaker 1: Connor's from Tom mcclint Hockey is online. Tom, I was

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Speaker 1: just going to say, let's extend the conversation to the

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Speaker 1: nation at large. What are you most excited about energized

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Speaker 1: about with the incoming Trump administration majorities in both houses.

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Speaker 5: Well, I remind people the American people didn't save our

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Speaker 5: cunt on election night. They gave us the tools to

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Speaker 5: save our country. We still have to do it. And

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Speaker 5: as I see it, there are two monumental threats to

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Speaker 5: our country that we're staring straight at. History is screaming

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Speaker 5: a warning at us. The countries that bankrupt themselves or

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Speaker 5: countries that cannot control their borders simply aren't around very long.

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Speaker 5: Those are the two crises that have to be immediately addressed.

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Speaker 5: I am very confident that Trump is fully determined to

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Speaker 5: address them, and I think that the Congress is going

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Speaker 5: to bend over backwards to get him what he needs.

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Speaker 1: So the border thing, I don't dispute for a moment,

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Speaker 1: but I'm going to hit you with a statement that

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Speaker 1: is actually pretty damn close to true. Respond however you want,

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Speaker 1: Tom McClintock, there is no constituency for fiscal conservatism. You

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Speaker 1: can't get a round of applause anymore for it.

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Speaker 5: I think that's changing because I think our country people

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Speaker 5: are starting to awaken to the fact that our country

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Speaker 5: is entering a debt spiral. Before you can provide for

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Speaker 5: the common defense and promote the general welfare, you've got

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Speaker 5: to be able to pay for it, and countries that

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Speaker 5: bankrupt themselves can't. That's why many years ago, Mike Mullen,

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Speaker 5: the former Chief of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said

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Speaker 5: that in his professional military judgment, the greatest threat to

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Speaker 5: our country is the national debt. And that's when the

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Speaker 5: national debt was about a third of what it is now.

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Speaker 1: Congressman Tom McLintock, fifth District of cal CORNEA time you

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Speaker 1: keep eating that drum and we will too well done.

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Speaker 5: Good to talk, Thanks, good to talk to you guys.

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Speaker 5: Thank you.

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Speaker 4: It's amazing Conservatives when any elections, because we're the no

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Speaker 4: fun people. The Democrats get to say, let's go to

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Speaker 4: Hawaii on vacation and eat nothing but desserts, and then

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Speaker 4: we have to say, no, no, let's let's stay home

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Speaker 4: this year for vacation and save the money. Because I

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Speaker 4: think you're gonna have some tough times ahead, and we

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Speaker 4: better not eat dessert. So I mean, there's work to

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Speaker 4: be done, and eat your vegetables right right, Yeah, and

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Speaker 4: yet if the dessert hoarding Hawaii vacationers, and.

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Speaker 2: I've done both, So hello hippocri who went to Hawaii

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Speaker 1: You've got to do the right things or you will

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Speaker 1: You've got you. You cannot court fiscal disaster and throw

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Speaker 4: So I got this brand new fire in the Ventura area.

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Speaker 4: They're calling the Auto Fire for some reason. Anyway, very

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Speaker 2: We'll keep our eye on that.

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Speaker 4: Also, the Pete Hegzef confirmation hearing going on in Washington,

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Speaker 4: DC right now.

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Speaker 2: We've got some high from that. Yeah, it's gotten off

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Speaker 2: to a wacky start. Multiple protesters bellowing and carrying on.

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Speaker 2: They can't even do the hearing. Awesome, all on the way.

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Speaker 7: Art officers enlisted, black and white, young and old, men

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Speaker 7: and women, all Americans, all warriors.

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Speaker 2: This hearing is for you.

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Speaker 7: Thank you for figuratively and literally having my back.

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Speaker 1: Who are misogamous, not only that you are a.

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Speaker 4: Christy protester interrupting the Pete Hegzath hearing as they always do.

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Speaker 1: Protester Old crack Pot bellowing about Vietnam Please, what do

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Speaker 1: you want Peter to do about it?

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Speaker 2: So I'm looking up at the TV.

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Speaker 4: It looks like a lot of the questioning that I've

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Speaker 4: been watching so far has been a route about the

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Speaker 4: whole women serving in combat roles, which, man, I feel.

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Speaker 2: Like is a I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I'll have to watch the hearing to see how the

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Speaker 4: conversation is going. I don't understand why this is so difficult.

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Speaker 4: Sh it does it make us stronger and better fighting force.

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Speaker 4: Yes or no, then go with that at the end.

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Speaker 4: I don't understand why it's even an issue.

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Speaker 1: But right right, you know, I hate to steal my

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Speaker 1: thunder from a discussion of LA's Firefighter Corps because it's

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Speaker 1: more or less the same idea. But has any soldier

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Speaker 1: in a firefight ever in the history of warfare, going

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Speaker 1: back to swords and shields and hurling rocks at each

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Speaker 1: other ever said you know, the fight's going well, but

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Speaker 1: I wish there were more women here fighting. I mean,

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Speaker 1: they're getting into their entire focus effectiveness. He's getting into

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Speaker 1: a conversation with Tom Cotton. As I'm looking at the

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Speaker 1: TV senator military guy hegxeth them. They're talking about women's

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Speaker 1: strength versus men's strengths. I mean, they're getting into the

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Speaker 1: nitty gritty of this.

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Speaker 2: Well good and they should.

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Speaker 1: That's absolutely appropriate, and that's part of the reason that Pete,

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Speaker 1: I think, would be a breath of fresh air. He

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Speaker 1: is not absolutely you know, steeped in the conventional thinking

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Speaker 1: in the last twenty five years, much of which has

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Speaker 1: been terribly misguided in my mind.

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Speaker 2: Hits seventy seven, Michael.

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Speaker 7: As I've said, to many of you in private meetings.

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Speaker 7: When President Trump chose me for this position, the primary

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Speaker 7: charge he gave me was to bring the warrior culture

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Speaker 7: back to the Department of Defense. He liked me once

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Speaker 7: a Pentagon laser focused on lethality, meritocracy, war fighting, accountability,

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Speaker 7: and readiness.

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Speaker 1: All right, more, Fredon Babe starts screaming, taste or tays

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Speaker 1: the old guy too, tas them both, tayso them till

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Speaker 1: they wet themselves. If they're under hydrated, give them a

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Speaker 1: good drink of water, then tas them again. So we're

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Speaker 1: on the air while this is happening. So I don't

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Speaker 1: know what's driving these various arguments, but if I'm the Democrats,

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Speaker 1: do so, I want it to be about the things

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Speaker 1: he's said about women in combat. Do they think that's

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Speaker 1: the winning issue?

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Speaker 4: I think the better issue if I'm a Democrat is

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Speaker 4: him not being qualified to be sec deaf. It's such

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Speaker 4: a giant organization. You've never run anything one one thousandth

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Speaker 4: this size.

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Speaker 2: Who has right?

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Speaker 5: You know?

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Speaker 1: That's well, And my purpose in playing these clips for

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Speaker 1: you is that everything he's said is from certainly our perspective,

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Speaker 1: more than defensible.

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Speaker 2: It's great hit seventy eight. Briefly, Michael, you may proceed

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Speaker 2: to bring back war fighting.

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Speaker 7: If confirmed, I'm going to work with President Trump.

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Speaker 2: And this committee to one.

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Speaker 7: Restore the warrior ethos to the Pentagon and throughout our

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Speaker 7: fighting force. In doing so, we will re establish trust

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Speaker 7: in our military, addressing the recruiting crisis, the retention crisis,

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Speaker 7: and readiness crisis in our rank.

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Speaker 2: All right, so that's sorry, you can fade that out, Michael.

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Speaker 1: That's three protesters, like in the first few minutes of

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Speaker 1: his opening statement, which is ridiculous, he accused by the

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Speaker 1: way he opened his statement, or at least a significant

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Speaker 1: part of it, was a what was described by the

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Speaker 1: National Review as a scorched earth attack on the media,

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Speaker 1: a coordinated smear campaign that's from the Kavanaugh book, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: which was decried by the idiots in the media as

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Speaker 1: being somehow unhinged or inappropriate. It was one of my

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Speaker 1: favorite moments in observing government and public life.

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Speaker 4: So Tom Cotton just explained how our standards are so

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Speaker 4: low that their requirement for the two mile run is

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Speaker 4: can you do it in twenty two minutes? And he

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Speaker 4: said that's not running, that's barely jogging. That's a fast walk. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: that's a really good paced walk. Is a guy who

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Speaker 4: takes power walks?

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Speaker 5: Yes?

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Speaker 4: Anyway, So, like I said, they're getting into the nitty

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Speaker 4: gritty of the requirements, which I'm fine with that angle.

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Speaker 4: I just thought it'd be that's from a Republican. Maybe

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Speaker 4: he wants to put it on this where they're pretty

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Speaker 4: solidly in the right as opposed to the as he

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Speaker 4: qualified stuff.

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Speaker 2: Right. Whether heg Seth is the guy or not is

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Speaker 2: an open question.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad we have these hearings, but to push back

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Speaker 1: against the military as a social experiment and a jobs

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Speaker 1: program attitude that has infected Washington, d C. And I

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Speaker 1: have some very good accounts from highly placed people who

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Speaker 1: I know personally saying that is unquestionably the case.

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Speaker 2: I love that.

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Speaker 1: Or to put it, as Pete Hegseth put it seventy nine, please, Michael, Now,

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Speaker 1: it is true.

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Speaker 7: And has been acknowledged that I don't have a similar

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Speaker 7: biography to defense secretaries of the last thirty years. But

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Speaker 7: as President Trump also told me, we've repeatedly placed people

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Speaker 7: atop the Pentagon with supposedly the right credentials. Whether they retire,

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Speaker 7: generals academics or defense contractor executives, and where has it

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Speaker 7: gotten us.

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Speaker 2: That's a good argument, he believes.

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Speaker 7: And I humbly agree that it's time to give someone

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Speaker 7: with dust on his boots the helm.

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Speaker 2: That's a pretty good argument. It's a damn good argument.

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Speaker 4: The reason we lowered the standards in a lot of

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Speaker 4: cases is because we aren't getting enough recruits, and so

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Speaker 4: we're widening the net to get more people to join. Now,

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Speaker 4: our friend Mike Lyons says, part of the reason you

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Speaker 4: aren't getting enough recruits is it just doesn't have the

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Speaker 4: the challenge. You know, I want to be part of

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Speaker 4: an elite unit thing that it used to have. He thinks,

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Speaker 4: you know, having higher standards making it seem like, wow,

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Speaker 4: you're really something. You're in the army. You were in

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Speaker 4: the military brings in more people, which you might be

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Speaker 4: right as opposed to just.

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Speaker 2: Another job flabby people can do exactly well, yeah, exactly, yeah, Hm.

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Speaker 1: I served in the army, so what A lot of

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Speaker 1: America response not us, Don't get me wrong, but I

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Speaker 1: see his point. I think it's a great one.

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Speaker 4: We'll have more of that hearing of any interesting stuff happens.

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Speaker 4: Of course, if you miss a segment. You can grab

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