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Speaker 6: with Mbar Garcia, Brian brought Us, Patrick Walker, and Derek Eagleton.
Speaker 7: It is Friday, September twenty second, twenty twenty three, season nineteen,
Speaker 7: episode number thirty seven.
Speaker 2: Welcome to the latest edition of The Break.
Speaker 7: We're live from that WBC Mortgage studios at the Start's
Speaker 7: our job to get you ready for Cowboys Versus Cardinals.
Speaker 7: That happens is Sunday in Arizona, and we got the
Speaker 7: crew here today to tell you, guys what's going to
Speaker 7: happen this weekend, give you their best predictions. We'll get
Speaker 7: to those by the end of the show. But we
Speaker 7: start today on a bit of a somber note here
Speaker 7: in cowboy Land. Yesterday afternoon, we start to hear the nerth,
Speaker 7: the talk of a possible injury, and then we find
Speaker 7: out it is Trayvon Diggs, and then shortly thereafter find
Speaker 7: out that mister Diggs is out for the season, presumably
Speaker 7: with a torn acl How does Dallas adjust.
Speaker 8: Well, First of all, I'd be remiss if I know,
Speaker 8: if I allowed us, and I know we're not going
Speaker 8: to to pretend that Trevon Diggs is replaceable by anyone
Speaker 8: else on this roster, because he's just not. So it's
Speaker 8: a massive loss for the Cowboys period. He's their best
Speaker 8: ball hawk. You saw the increased in heightened physicality over
Speaker 8: the first two games of the season with the tangling
Speaker 8: and forcing turnovers that way, in addition to taking the
Speaker 8: ball away in the air.
Speaker 4: So I mean it's a massive loss.
Speaker 8: That being said, it's also true that, as I rode
Speaker 8: on Dallas Cowboys dot Com yesterday, this team is better
Speaker 8: equipped than they've been in a very long time to
Speaker 8: have God step up. So first take is going to
Speaker 8: be Deron Bland. He's going to go to the outside.
Speaker 8: Good news is the Cowboys gave him a ton of
Speaker 8: reps in training camp doing so preseason as well as
Speaker 8: a contingency for things like this. Talk about thinking the
Speaker 8: football gods that Jordan Lewis is back when he came back.
Speaker 8: He came back last week. Now he's going to go
Speaker 8: full time starter at Nickel. Now it's time to see
Speaker 8: what what Igbinogay is going to be able to do
Speaker 8: when what he calls his fresh start Cowboys hope that
Speaker 8: he's an upgrade over Kelvin Joseph for situations like this
Speaker 8: as well. And then you start to look from their
Speaker 8: young guys like Eric Scott who they traded up for
Speaker 8: as far as depth bot massive loss in losing Treyvon Diggs,
Speaker 8: but the Cowboys, that's why I have on the Muhammad
Speaker 8: a Last shirt today. You know, you take some punches,
Speaker 8: but I think they can get up from this and
Speaker 8: it start swinging.
Speaker 9: I am still trying to rob my around all emotions
Speaker 9: because it's not one of those things where you're like,
Speaker 9: all right, we just got to get through four weeks, five, No,
Speaker 9: that's it for the whole season. So that's hard to
Speaker 9: kind of go through those emotions. And it's so sad,
Speaker 9: so sad. He was having such a good start of
Speaker 9: the season, he was trending upwards, he got his contract extended,
Speaker 9: he was just doing so well, and then and I
Speaker 9: don't want to say this, but I'm gonna say it.
Speaker 9: Whatever I've had in the back of my mind a
Speaker 9: little bit of concern with Gilmour as far as because
Speaker 9: sounds of the sideline when they came out. I think
Speaker 9: it was a week one, I think when it came out,
Speaker 9: and you hear the comments because of his age, right,
Speaker 9: he's a veteran guy, very talented, has shown he still
Speaker 9: has it, he still has the game. Everyone has been
Speaker 9: impressed with his game. But it's kind of it has
Speaker 9: been in the back of my mind as if there
Speaker 9: was anybody on defense that I would kind of be
Speaker 9: quote unquote injury concern off something happening, it would have
Speaker 9: been Gilmore because of his age. And now something like
Speaker 9: this happens, and even though they got younger guys that
Speaker 9: you have the depth to kind of go through the
Speaker 9: season and still play at a competitive level, it does
Speaker 9: bring concern me personally with another starter that's a veteran guy.
Speaker 10: Why could happen?
Speaker 9: And I'm not trying to bring that kind of energy
Speaker 9: because we don't need that here, but it is in
Speaker 9: the back of my mind of kind of just being
Speaker 9: a little hesitant and scared of kind of what the
Speaker 9: future might bring, because initially we were feeling so freaking
Speaker 9: great about the defense as a whole, so everything just
Speaker 9: kind of shifted mentally from me.
Speaker 10: But I know they have the depth. We've seen them
Speaker 10: play talented young guys. But yeah, it's just od.
Speaker 3: You have one of the top three defenders in the
Speaker 3: league and Michael Parsons. You have one of the best
Speaker 3: defensive coordinators in the league and Dan Quinn. Your weapon
Speaker 3: of choice now is your pass rush. And your pass
Speaker 3: rush now becomes that where it affects the way that
Speaker 3: people try and throw the ball on you, and so
Speaker 3: you can make up for maybe some lack of the
Speaker 3: coverage that you might lose in the secondary with your
Speaker 3: pass rush. Now it's about scheme, it's about your front,
Speaker 3: and it's about finding ways. We're super been super positive.
Speaker 3: Dron Bland really came out of nowhere last year for us,
Speaker 3: and you know, and then you watch Deron Bland play
Speaker 3: on the outside, like Patrick was talking about, steady camp there,
Speaker 3: you know, but then you get Jordan Lewis back in
Speaker 3: the nickel the role he's comfortable in. If they have
Speaker 3: a position where they can withstand losing a player, and
Speaker 3: this player is huge, don't get me wrong by any means,
Speaker 3: but to me, I think they can weather the storm
Speaker 3: with one of the best defensive players in the league,
Speaker 3: one of the best defensive coordinators in the league, scheme
Speaker 3: in it and then your pass rush. I think that's
Speaker 3: how you find ways to get around the loss of
Speaker 3: what DIGS potentially could be. Is it a nice thing?
Speaker 3: And you know it's it's not as terrible. This team
Speaker 3: last year loses its quarterback in Week one and everybody
Speaker 3: was dooming and glooming. Then you won thirteen games. There's
Speaker 3: reasons why these coaches do what they do, the reason
Speaker 3: why this team is built the way it is so
Speaker 3: you withstand things that happen like this. We're not the
Speaker 3: only team in the league that's going to lose players
Speaker 3: along the way. Yeah, big time players. It's going to happen.
Speaker 3: You know, look at the Jets, what they had to
Speaker 3: endure their whole season. Now is in the hands of
Speaker 3: Zach Wilson, you know where it was going to be
Speaker 3: in the hands of Aaron Rodgers. You know, nobody feels
Speaker 3: sorry for you. You keep moving. But this team, in
Speaker 3: my opinion, is better equipped to handle something like this.
Speaker 7: You know, it's interesting because when I compare the Cowboys
Speaker 7: to the rest of the NFC, I think most people
Speaker 7: believe the Cowboys, the Eagles, and the forty nine ers
Speaker 7: are the cream of the crop. And when you start
Speaker 7: comparing their defenses, which I think are the strengths of
Speaker 7: both of those teams and the Cowboys, I look at
Speaker 7: their cornerback position. I think you brought up a good point, Brian.
Speaker 7: You know, the pass rush of all those teams I
Speaker 7: think is really outstanding. That's what makes those defenses so great.
Speaker 7: But even without Trayvon Diggs. With Travon Diggs, I think
Speaker 7: they have clearly the best secondary of those three teams.
Speaker 7: Without Trayvon Diggs, I think they're still as good in
Speaker 7: the secondary because you look at the strength of their
Speaker 7: safety position, right, And I don't know that those teams
Speaker 7: have dominant cornerbacks. They got good cornerbacks that play well
Speaker 7: for the pass rush that they have, right, And I
Speaker 7: think now Dallas has the same thing.
Speaker 2: So I agree with you, Brian. I think it's more.
Speaker 7: About what are you going to get out of the
Speaker 7: pass rush to be able to help your back end
Speaker 7: be able to do the things that they were able
Speaker 7: to do. You're not going to be able to be
Speaker 7: I don't think this defense will be as dominant. Like
Speaker 7: That's the part I'm upset about is I wanted to
Speaker 7: see if this defense could be Chicago Bears eighty five ish, right.
Speaker 2: I wanted to see if this.
Speaker 7: Could be one of the best defenses of all time,
Speaker 7: like one of those kinds of defenses you talk about
Speaker 7: like that. I'm not certain I will see that now
Speaker 7: without somebody like Trayvon Diggs on the field.
Speaker 2: Maybe they can, who knows.
Speaker 7: I'm just saying that's the part that I'm really bummed about,
Speaker 7: because I really thought this defense had the potential on
Speaker 7: paper to be that good.
Speaker 2: Of a defense and we won't get to see that
Speaker 2: this season.
Speaker 8: And I agree, and coming into the season, like I said,
Speaker 8: I was hoping to see and I'm still hoping to
Speaker 8: see a historic defensive outing from the Cowboys in twenty three.
Speaker 4: Special was the word that we kept throwing around.
Speaker 8: And when you lose such a special player in Treyvon Diggs,
Speaker 8: now you have to wonder if the secondary as a
Speaker 8: unit can still be special. But to Brian's point, your
Speaker 8: pass rush is still special. Your secondary, as far as
Speaker 8: your safety corps, they can be special. And in the
Speaker 8: same week that you lose Trayvon Diggs, you're likely getting
Speaker 8: Donovan Wilson back on the field, so that adds another
Speaker 8: level of emphasis and to the safety position. Who also,
Speaker 8: you know, when he sets off with the blitz, he's
Speaker 8: a terror as well, so he's gonna help with that
Speaker 8: pass rush additionally. So I still think that while they
Speaker 8: might not end up being the eighty five Bears, I
Speaker 8: mean with that pass rush, you could be still curtain.
Speaker 8: I mean you could still be doomsday if Doron Bland
Speaker 8: can do on the outside what he did in the nickel.
Speaker 8: We already know what Jordan Lewis can do in the nickel,
Speaker 8: and we already know what Stefan Gilmour can do on
Speaker 8: the outside. And again you got the safety. So I mean,
Speaker 8: I still think they can be put up a historic effort,
Speaker 8: but it'll probably be a notch below what it would
Speaker 8: have been with Trevon Diggs because it's it's Trevon Diggs.
Speaker 3: Can anybody name the cornerbacks for the eighty five.
Speaker 2: Bearsson was a safety?
Speaker 3: Is the safety?
Speaker 4: Okay?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 2: That's a good point.
Speaker 3: Right, that's a good point. Guy named Mike Richardson, Mike
Speaker 3: Richardson and Leslie Fraser, the coach, Dave Dewerston was the
Speaker 3: safety and so was Gary Finsik. We don't know who
Speaker 3: the corners were for the it.
Speaker 2: Was the man we know that right. Richard Dent was
Speaker 2: the man it was.
Speaker 3: Yea, Richard Dent was a man. Steve McMichaels was the man.
Speaker 4: You know you.
Speaker 3: Mike Singletary was a man that was a legendary day,
Speaker 3: legendary defense. And we can't name the corners for that team.
Speaker 4: Good point, so really good point.
Speaker 3: Find a way to be a dominant team with what
Speaker 3: you're really good at, and that's getting after the run
Speaker 3: when you have to, and then finding a way to
Speaker 3: force teams to throw the football and hopefully rules a
Speaker 3: little different in nineteen eighty five. You know, with the
Speaker 3: way that you could play, they don't let you play
Speaker 3: that way anymore. But you know, hopefully, like I say,
Speaker 3: you're in a situation you could be far worse, maybe
Speaker 3: like what the Giants are dealing with right now with
Speaker 3: two rookie corners, you know, having to play that that
Speaker 3: could be. But I trust these coaches and I trust
Speaker 3: the best player defensive player football to help me get
Speaker 3: through this.
Speaker 8: You don't even have to look at the Giants, and
Speaker 8: that's a great point, because they are in dire straits
Speaker 8: as far as two rookies. I mean, go back to
Speaker 8: twenty twenty two with the Cowboys when you lost Jordan
Speaker 8: Lewis and you lost Anthony Brown and you had to
Speaker 8: on the back end of the season late November December
Speaker 8: going into the playoffs, you had no clue who your
Speaker 8: opposite boundary corner was. So you're experimenting with guys. So
Speaker 8: you're light years ahead of that right now. So you know, yes,
Speaker 8: you lose Trayvon Diggs and that's that's a serious blow,
Speaker 8: but you got to feel good about, you know, the
Speaker 8: talent that's present and who's coordinated in dan Quinn. I mean,
Speaker 8: dan Quinn's going to get things figured out.
Speaker 7: On the positive note, Cowboys yesterday, get some players back,
Speaker 7: Brandon Chuma, Edoga, Tyler Smith, Donovan Wilson all full yesterday.
Speaker 2: I practice that helps.
Speaker 3: But you skirting around something.
Speaker 4: But there's a little more as the bad news.
Speaker 7: And actually, honestly, I don't know if it's bad yet,
Speaker 7: as everything is a sign so far from Mike McCarthy
Speaker 7: suggests that the injury to Tyler Biattish is one that
Speaker 7: may not keep him out of this weekend's game, and
Speaker 7: then they may have kind of side swiped one a
Speaker 7: little bit there, but but he did get hurt.
Speaker 2: And yesterday's practice. What do we know at this point?
Speaker 3: Okay, you tell us what is going on, and I'm
Speaker 3: going to tell you something that I think because every
Speaker 3: time that I think that everything's cool and ready to
Speaker 3: go and Cook's is going to play and there's no
Speaker 3: issue there and oh it's not a spray, it's just
Speaker 3: you know this, and next thing he's missing and then
Speaker 3: oh wait, by the way, hey, uh you know Tyler Smith.
Speaker 3: Oh he's looking good, he's ready, and we haven't seen
Speaker 3: him now for three weeks. So anything that I think
Speaker 3: that's gonna happen, like, oh no, hey, be oddish. It's fine.
Speaker 3: We're good man, I know, and I'm doing out there.
Speaker 3: I'm doing a pregame show and Christy Scales in actives
Speaker 3: this week and then you're going okay. But on our show,
Speaker 3: we talked about Arizona and how they play that Bear front.
Speaker 3: Speaking of eighty five Bears, Well, they put somebody over
Speaker 3: the nose, and you put brock Hoffman in a game.
Speaker 3: And now what Jerry Jones has told us, well, they've
Speaker 3: taken a lot of responsibility for calls away from Dak
Speaker 3: you know, setting the protection be Oddish, these guys up front,
Speaker 3: that's how they handle it. Let me tell you what
Speaker 3: that would be a big loss right there in my opinion,
Speaker 3: especially the way that Arizona plays their front with the
Speaker 3: way they play that heavy nose on that center and
Speaker 3: now he's calling, snapping and blocking all in the same deal.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna I'm gonna let Patrick please tell us
Speaker 3: that be Oddish is gonna play this week.
Speaker 8: Well, well, first let me say that, can we can
Speaker 8: we move Thursday practice to like Friday or something?
Speaker 4: What is it about Thursdays going on around here? Good God?
Speaker 8: When it comes to Tyler Beiadis, she suffered a hamstring
Speaker 8: injury in yesterday's practice. Widely overshadowed by the loss of
Speaker 8: Trevon Diggs, Tyler Biaddish underwent a precautionary MRI. Turned out
Speaker 8: to be precautionary. The results, I'm told were they're very,
Speaker 8: very optimistic. It was described to me as minor training
Speaker 8: staff is confident in his ability to likely go on Sunday.
Speaker 8: Listen to Mike McCarthy on a five point three of
Speaker 8: him the fan, This morning, Mike McCarthy said he will
Speaker 8: visit with Biaddish and the medical staff again today, but
Speaker 8: he did say as of last night, medical staff believed
Speaker 8: that Beaddish will play on Sunday, So, barring a setback
Speaker 8: between now today being Friday, the walk through tomorrow in
Speaker 8: the pre game show, barring a setback, it looks as
Speaker 8: if Tyler Biadish will take the field, but again that
Speaker 8: is based upon what happens tomorrow in the walkthrough.
Speaker 10: I'm keeping my mouth shut.
Speaker 4: I'm just telling.
Speaker 10: I believe. I highly believe in the power of the word.
Speaker 10: I don't think.
Speaker 3: Yesterday there was some reless recklessness going on in your area,
Speaker 3: in my area, in your area, talking about, oh, the
Speaker 3: health of the team and all that. I started like shaking.
Speaker 4: I was trying to I was shaking. I couldn't reach
Speaker 4: the woods. So I got I was like, I was like,
Speaker 4: I was like.
Speaker 11: That.
Speaker 3: As a personal guy, I started like, I want.
Speaker 10: To start crying.
Speaker 4: Really never put on again.
Speaker 10: I didn't even have them.
Speaker 4: So that's what happened.
Speaker 9: But but I mean yesterday, when the news came out,
Speaker 9: I think Tyler's injury kind of got overshadowed by its
Speaker 9: Obviously the severity that Trevon Diggs injuries. Different level of
Speaker 9: severity there, but man, that that is. And again there's
Speaker 9: some reports out there are saying that he's gonna be okay,
Speaker 9: and it's nothing major reports.
Speaker 3: One never saying the words of Shaggy.
Speaker 9: Wasn't mean, but it's just so, it's so, it's another
Speaker 9: devastating news because he's done such a freaking good job.
Speaker 12: He's grown so much since last year and you look
Speaker 12: at the way he played and he he's the type
Speaker 12: of player and if you're watching him, it doesn't matter
Speaker 12: if the play already is twenty yards from him.
Speaker 9: He's gonna keep going and finish until the play is cover,
Speaker 9: recovers the ball, keeps an eye on the ball, is
Speaker 9: super freaking aware of what's going on around him where
Speaker 9: the ball is at, and just has that athleticism and
Speaker 9: a big guy like him. He's a big guy and
Speaker 9: just finishes place and keeps going with it. So it's
Speaker 9: it's if something happens where he can't go, major loss.
Speaker 4: I agree with.
Speaker 8: This because because Brian makes a good point when you
Speaker 8: talk about Tyler Smith and it was described the hamstring
Speaker 8: string on Tyler Smith.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you got good sources. I'm just I'm not talking
Speaker 3: about it anymore because I can't. I can't do it.
Speaker 8: But my point being that it's an excellent point in
Speaker 8: that it can come back. As you know, it's minor,
Speaker 8: but if the Cowboys feel like because of who it
Speaker 8: is and what the injury is in the position they played,
Speaker 8: they might want to rest him a week. Because Tyler Smith, Hey,
Speaker 8: we thought that he was in good shape playing with one.
Speaker 4: I did as well, and you.
Speaker 8: Know now he's finally hopefully about to take the field
Speaker 8: in week three. So as it stands, signs point toward
Speaker 8: a lot of signs point toward Tyler Beats taking the
Speaker 8: field against the Cardinals. But I am putting an asterisk
Speaker 8: on that because of Tyler Smith and how he was
Speaker 8: managed over the first two games.
Speaker 3: Let me know what happens when you get on the plane.
Speaker 7: Well, it's not even it's not even just Tyler Smith.
Speaker 7: I mean, that's just the nature of the NFL. We
Speaker 7: see it all the time where there's one report and
Speaker 7: or the team is saying this about a player and
Speaker 7: his availability, and then you get to the end of
Speaker 7: the weekend and it's like, well I thought he was okay, Yeah,
Speaker 7: it's like, yeah, he's not really trust me.
Speaker 2: I've been there, so it just happened. That's the part
Speaker 2: of the that's the part of the NFL.
Speaker 7: So right now, what we know is that the NFL,
Speaker 7: I mean, I'm sorry that the team is saying that
Speaker 7: he looks.
Speaker 8: Like this morning, that as of last night, the medical
Speaker 8: staff believes that Tyler Biattis will play.
Speaker 7: Now, there also is a caveat that he put in there.
Speaker 7: He said a lot of times with these kind of situations,
Speaker 7: the next morning, Yeah, when it's late, the next morning is.
Speaker 2: What tells the story. So he still hadn't talked to
Speaker 2: him at that point.
Speaker 7: Risk that's the part that we don't know, is what
Speaker 7: that conversation conversation like this morning and how did he
Speaker 7: feel this morning? That part we don't know yet necessarily,
Speaker 7: and Mike didn't know at that time when he was
Speaker 7: talking about it. Are we gonna take our first break,
Speaker 7: We'll come back. Let's talk about this rushing offense. I
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Speaker 7: what you think of it. Do you think it's providing
Speaker 7: what the Cowboys need? And is it enough as they
Speaker 7: get into other games later in the season, will they
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Speaker 7: Cowboys right now are twenty third in the league in
Speaker 7: rushing yards per attempt at three point five, not a
Speaker 7: great average. They are, however, first in the NFL in
Speaker 7: rushing attempts. They're running the ball a lot, just not
Speaker 7: getting as much out of it as you would want
Speaker 7: them to. What are your general thoughts about this running game?
Speaker 7: Is it good enough?
Speaker 8: I think it's good enough, and I don't think that
Speaker 8: you've seen the best of it just yet. I think
Speaker 8: you know Tony Pollert is getting his his legs beneath
Speaker 8: him as being as far as being the lead back,
Speaker 8: I think the Cowboys we talk about the Texas Coast
Speaker 8: offense and what does it really look like firing on
Speaker 8: all cylinders? We haven't seen it firing on all cylinders yet,
Speaker 8: and I think a large part of that will go
Speaker 8: to how they utilize their running backs.
Speaker 10: How long do you think it takes?
Speaker 3: Too?
Speaker 10: Would take first?
Speaker 8: I think the running game should be you should have
Speaker 8: a good idea what the running game looks like before
Speaker 8: you get to Santa Clair.
Speaker 4: I really think that.
Speaker 8: I mean, by the time you get to around week five,
Speaker 8: you know you should know what a good mix is
Speaker 8: going to look like. As far as Tony Pollard versus
Speaker 8: not versus but Tony Pollard. Ricodaldo Douce Vaughan sprinkling some
Speaker 8: hundred lib key. I think you see more of that
Speaker 8: starting to take shape over the next two to three
Speaker 8: weeks really for the run game. But I think it'll
Speaker 8: be fine because you also have to look at it
Speaker 8: in tandem with how the Cowboys are choosing to pass
Speaker 8: the ball. They're choosing to get the ball out quickly.
Speaker 8: They're using the you know, certain types of run plays
Speaker 8: to kind of relieve pressure so that Dak can get.
Speaker 4: Those passes off. What does that mean?
Speaker 8: So, for example, when you look at the efficiency of
Speaker 8: the run, like you mentioned three and a half, Okay,
Speaker 8: so some people would look at that and they say, well, yeah,
Speaker 8: that needs to be better. It would need to be
Speaker 8: better if the pass game passing attack wasn't as efficient.
Speaker 8: But if you hand it off just enough or just
Speaker 8: often enough to keep linebackers honest, to keep the safeties honest,
Speaker 8: and keep them trying to play forward so that you
Speaker 8: could get behind them if you need to, then actually
Speaker 8: it's efficient indirectly. So the way the Cowboys are utilizing
Speaker 8: their run game, I like it. I don't expect that
Speaker 8: they're going to go out there in average four and
Speaker 8: a half five yards and carry You don't have Zeke
Speaker 8: in the building. That's just not the formula for the
Speaker 8: Cowboys going forward. They're trying to look at the efficiency
Speaker 8: of when they run the ball, how that is used
Speaker 8: to set up the pass game, and then those two
Speaker 8: efficiencies play off of each other.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's man, I am not a big metrics guy.
Speaker 3: I'm not smart enough to be a metrics guy. But
Speaker 3: when you really dive in the numbers and there's a
Speaker 3: stat that they call stuff rate, like it's a percentage
Speaker 3: of when the runs were stuffed and no gain a loss,
Speaker 3: something like that. And the problem that you run into
Speaker 3: with the Cowboys is Tony Pollard's runs are stuffed twenty
Speaker 3: percent of the time, Rico Dadalls runs stuffed fifteen percent
Speaker 3: of the time. Do spawn thirty three percent of the time.
Speaker 3: So when you start to tell me things like that,
Speaker 3: are you getting the type of blocking up front? Are
Speaker 3: you getting the combination blocks, you're getting second level blocks?
Speaker 3: What's the situation in the game. I honestly don't know
Speaker 3: right now that if Dallas had to go into a
Speaker 3: game and say we got to run the football, that
Speaker 3: they could be effectively, they could do it effectively. I
Speaker 3: really don't. I think there's some's it's early in the season.
Speaker 3: You talk about the defense that they faced, the Jets
Speaker 3: are good. I feel like the Jets are good run defense.
Speaker 3: The Giants are good inside. You know, the Giants miss
Speaker 3: a lot of tackles and stuff like that. But they're
Speaker 3: going to have to play some teams that are going
Speaker 3: to present even more of a problem running the football.
Speaker 3: The Commanders we know about for twice. The Eagles, they
Speaker 3: they they struggle at times with the run, but they
Speaker 3: got a big front. Now let's see if they get
Speaker 3: that a little bit better San Francisco. The thing that
Speaker 3: just makes me a little little hesitant right now is
Speaker 3: the consistency with the run games. And to me, I
Speaker 3: feel like that it's they're trying to kind of figure
Speaker 3: out how we're going to run the ball, you know,
Speaker 3: we I know, with when you watch Arizona play, we
Speaker 3: were talking about Penn and polls, you know, and how
Speaker 3: you you know, how they bounce the ball and get
Speaker 3: the ball inside and things like that. I I don't know,
Speaker 3: I feel more confident of the Cowboys throwing the ball
Speaker 3: and getting and getting yards that way than I would
Speaker 3: if you said, hey, they've got to run. They've got
Speaker 3: to kill this game and try and run this clock
Speaker 3: out in a four minute offense. I don't know right
Speaker 3: now if they can do that, and I think that's
Speaker 3: a I think that's something that should be a concern.
Speaker 9: Uh, I'm all right now about positiveness, positivity, possibly positivity.
Speaker 9: I I'm not concerned about it just yet. I think
Speaker 9: it will be okay and they will be able to
Speaker 9: efficiently run the ball. But the only time I think
Speaker 9: it would start bothering me where I would be concerned.
Speaker 10: It would be if we.
Speaker 9: Start seeing them force it. You know, when it becomes
Speaker 9: now you're just forcing it and it's not working one
Speaker 9: way or another, but you're still pushing and everything, which
Speaker 9: we've seen in past with the offense where they try
Speaker 9: to force things and it just doesn't freaking work. So
Speaker 9: right now, it's not that they're not becoming that they're
Speaker 9: not becoming an offense that's forcing things, whether it's running
Speaker 9: the football or throwing it or Dak being indecisive. I
Speaker 9: think they're still trying to figuring themselves out. But I'm
Speaker 9: not concerned yet about the running game and calling it
Speaker 9: a bad, bad option option. Yeah, I think they're We'll
Speaker 9: see I would like to give it a little bit
Speaker 9: more time and see once they start clicking in that way.
Speaker 9: But I think they do have the tools, They do
Speaker 9: have the talent there to make it efficient.
Speaker 3: Which is it might it might be, It might be
Speaker 3: adding Tyler Smith might help it in a way, you know,
Speaker 3: most definitely, you know a Dooka has done a nice job,
Speaker 3: but I mean it might help. This team is almost
Speaker 3: fifty to fifty run pass, which is in the league.
Speaker 3: It's that's kind of rare. But they're they're they're okay
Speaker 3: with running it for like you're talking about three and
Speaker 3: a half the you know, three eight a shot. They're they're,
Speaker 3: you know, they're going to figure it out one way
Speaker 3: or another. But he's going to keep her under the ball.
Speaker 3: You know, he's gonna that's that's something you know, he
Speaker 3: feels like that he needs to do. And but they
Speaker 3: they need to do a little bit better job of
Speaker 3: getting things secured up front. We haven't seen you know,
Speaker 3: those long runs. And that's the one thing with Pollard.
Speaker 3: You know, he's had like thirty nine carries, He's only
Speaker 3: had three runs of ten yards, you know, out of that.
Speaker 3: Usually with Pollard it's he's two and through the hole,
Speaker 3: and it's it might be two or three a game
Speaker 3: for him, the way he runs the ball. We just
Speaker 3: haven't seen that yet from them.
Speaker 7: The thing that gives me hope is that as I
Speaker 7: went back yesterday, I went back and watched every running
Speaker 7: play they had the Jets game, and one of the
Speaker 7: things that gives me hope is.
Speaker 2: They can do it.
Speaker 7: There are plays where you see them block it up
Speaker 7: and block it up really well. You see them get
Speaker 7: to the second level, you see them create the right gap.
Speaker 7: You see the running back find the right gap and
Speaker 7: get in and out, and they're off to the races.
Speaker 2: You've seen them do it. They just can't do it consistently.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 7: And by the way, it's not just one player. It's
Speaker 7: like when they don't do it, well, it's this guy
Speaker 7: this time. It might be a lip Key this time.
Speaker 7: Oh no, it might be a Ferguson this time. Where
Speaker 7: it might be a Tyrann this time. It's all over
Speaker 7: the map. There's not just the consistency of this one
Speaker 7: player is a problem. And if you change him out
Speaker 7: or if you can try to help him, that may
Speaker 7: solve you. They all take turns to the backrack exactly
Speaker 7: and so that's the part where I'm like, I have
Speaker 7: hope that the more the season wears on, the more
Speaker 7: opportunities they get, the better they will be as a unit,
Speaker 7: and they'll create more consistency in doing their jobs well
Speaker 7: because I've seen all of them do their jobs really
Speaker 7: well at a certain times.
Speaker 3: Right. That's the thing I think with offensive line play,
Speaker 3: that's why teams that just like to run the football
Speaker 3: that they don't have that issue. They don't have a breakdown.
Speaker 3: It's like you mentioned it with Tyron Smith. You say, well,
Speaker 3: what are some of the red zone problems? Well, Tyron
Speaker 3: Smith had a holding, Yeah, had it with and he
Speaker 3: had a holding call on a backside six yard run
Speaker 3: for Pollard that would have been a touchdown. You know,
Speaker 3: that's the kind of thing that makes you now think, well,
Speaker 3: can they run the ball? Yeah, they can run the ball,
Speaker 3: but you can't whiff you know, you can't let the
Speaker 3: guy back door you to make a play for minus
Speaker 3: two and you can't get a colding call on a touchdown.
Speaker 8: And then there's another play where Tyn is coming back.
Speaker 8: So I was gonna say, like you said, Tyler Smith,
Speaker 8: he's a road grader. Road grader is set to come back.
Speaker 8: So yeah, I mean Tuman did a very very nice
Speaker 8: job in these first two weeks, but this is this
Speaker 8: is a different level of strength that we're talking about
Speaker 8: on Tyler Smith.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 7: But and that's the thing, Like you talked about the
Speaker 7: whiff by Tyrant, there's another play where he drove a
Speaker 7: guy completely out of the Yeah, that's one thing I've
Speaker 7: seen these guys.
Speaker 3: Decided he was going to miss his guy. There you go,
Speaker 3: that's exactly right.
Speaker 2: And I've seen Chumi Doga one play he basically took his.
Speaker 7: Guy down, pancaked him, and then another play guy gets
Speaker 7: right around.
Speaker 2: So it's just like, there's no consistency right now.
Speaker 7: And that's the part where I'm just like, again, I
Speaker 7: look at it and say, that's the result of an
Speaker 7: offense having to find itself because they didn't play in
Speaker 7: the preseason. They're going to have to figure it out
Speaker 7: on the go. But by you know, by the time
Speaker 7: you get to week five, week six, you should be
Speaker 7: chugging along here. You should have that a lot of
Speaker 7: this figured out and at that point we should see
Speaker 7: more of the consistency. And if it's still a problem
Speaker 7: at that point, that's when I started to get a bit.
Speaker 8: More consiered, right, and think about what you just mentioned
Speaker 8: Tyron Smith with the whiff and the hole. And we're
Speaker 8: not saying Tyron Smith hasn't played well, because's actually played
Speaker 8: really well. But when yeah, when you miss a play,
Speaker 8: you miss a play. But in that scenario, it was
Speaker 8: Tyron Smith, and then Tyron walks a guy out of
Speaker 8: the club, but then it was Tyler Beata Tuma did
Speaker 8: something good, but then it was we're talking about the
Speaker 8: left side of the line. You haven't said anything about
Speaker 8: the right, So I think that goes to be clear.
Speaker 2: The right side has had its moments.
Speaker 7: It had I mean still, honestly still has been the
Speaker 7: best offensive lineman in my opinion, especially when I watched
Speaker 7: the running game, He's been the best.
Speaker 2: And he's still had a couple of players that were
Speaker 2: kind of like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, power is always going to be a problem for
Speaker 3: him a little bit.
Speaker 4: And you're not wrong.
Speaker 8: My main point is that with Tyler Smith coming back,
Speaker 8: and one of the main things coming into the season
Speaker 8: was you know, Tyron he remains healthy. Obviously, if he
Speaker 8: remains healthy and Tyler Smith once those two are only
Speaker 8: field for the extended period of time, it's about building
Speaker 8: chemistry for those two guys, timing, combo blocks, things like that.
Speaker 8: So really, in the absence of Tyler Smith, you don't
Speaker 8: have the opportunity to build that. So you're going to
Speaker 8: probably see some struggles in the run game, particularly if
Speaker 8: you're trying to run in those particular gaps. I think
Speaker 8: that organically starts to solve itself, hopefully as early as
Speaker 8: this week with Tyler Smith fingers Cross coming back against
Speaker 8: the Cardinals fingers.
Speaker 7: Quest and I see, let's let's year about that.
Speaker 3: It would be the first time in like eighteen hundred
Speaker 3: snaps these guys have all played together.
Speaker 4: It's been eighty two years.
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Speaker 7: We are on the final segment of The Break Live
Speaker 7: from the SWBC Morgan Studio.
Speaker 3: I gotta get there.
Speaker 7: We've got about nine minutes left in the show, which
Speaker 7: means Amber, you got about eight minutes for this game,
Speaker 7: so we can get there.
Speaker 3: You gotta give me more time for the don't mess around,
Speaker 3: let's go.
Speaker 2: The other day Patrick had four minutes.
Speaker 10: I'm not he already talks enough. I need some talking
Speaker 10: time too.
Speaker 2: Man, Man, okay, you can take that shot.
Speaker 3: You can take one of.
Speaker 7: You give it away as a shot. I know I'm
Speaker 7: going to tell you.
Speaker 9: All right, all right, all right, today's game it's called
Speaker 9: caption this right, Okay, this is a game that I
Speaker 9: think most people are familiar with. And if you guys
Speaker 9: are only listening, hopefully you can go back later and
Speaker 9: actually watch the show, because basically we're going to be
Speaker 9: putting out a meme and you guys are going to
Speaker 9: caption this relating to football doesn't have to be from
Speaker 9: this weekend. It's something that happened before anything that obviously
Speaker 9: relates back to football. So as an example, this first
Speaker 9: one is a baby very sad?
Speaker 3: Can I ry in? I got it right now?
Speaker 10: To go ahead.
Speaker 3: That is my look at on lambeau Field when Des
Speaker 3: caught that ball. Oh the tears were frozen on my face.
Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty much.
Speaker 14: I was in with that.
Speaker 8: That was me as recently as yesterday when I saw
Speaker 8: Trevon Diggs on crutches.
Speaker 4: That was me yesterday.
Speaker 7: I'm gonna say that's GM's when they are all the
Speaker 7: GMS that passed on Michael Parsons.
Speaker 3: That's good, all right, Next one, I could play this game.
Speaker 9: I don't know how to describe this one for our listeners. Patrick,
Speaker 9: describe it.
Speaker 8: Please describe it. It's it's a popular meme on Twitter.
Speaker 8: It's the the white fur Monkey.
Speaker 4: I guess that's what you're doing, kind of like, what
Speaker 4: are we even doing polls?
Speaker 8: I got one that's me looking at the final play
Speaker 8: in San Francisco in January.
Speaker 4: With Ezekiel Elliott.
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's me looking at Ezekiel Elliott's final snap in
Speaker 8: the Cowboys uniform.
Speaker 4: Now what do we even do?
Speaker 5: That is?
Speaker 9: Uh?
Speaker 3: That is Peyton hendershots jet sweep the other day on
Speaker 3: the Gold.
Speaker 2: All right, here's mine.
Speaker 7: That's CD looking at his agent last night after Trayvon
Speaker 7: Diggs injury.
Speaker 2: Let's my contract? Get it done now?
Speaker 3: All right?
Speaker 9: Now we have the dog that sits on the chair
Speaker 9: with everything burning up around him saying this is fine.
Speaker 2: I mean after yesterday, it could it be.
Speaker 4: I don't think that.
Speaker 8: I don't think that fits yesterday because we talked about
Speaker 8: the death.
Speaker 4: So I get it.
Speaker 3: But that's all of us.
Speaker 2: That's all of us right now, like it's all fine.
Speaker 2: We're good.
Speaker 8: Because to Brian's point in the first segment, that was
Speaker 8: me when Dak Prescott left that game last year. Yeah,
Speaker 8: and we thought, okay, checking out his thumb fractured thumb,
Speaker 8: and he was going to be out for several weeks.
Speaker 4: That was us, Oh, this is fine, everything is fine.
Speaker 9: Me.
Speaker 8: I was like no, but you get the context of
Speaker 8: it's really not fine.
Speaker 3: This This is how I was haul in Chicago. The
Speaker 3: Chicago Bears, that's what that is. Wow, oh man, sorry.
Speaker 2: Yet litteral Giants right now? That is the New York
Speaker 2: Giants right now.
Speaker 8: It's all fine, good, fine, everything's fine. That's that's me
Speaker 8: watching speaking of the Giants. That's me watching the Giants
Speaker 8: offense in twenty twenty three.
Speaker 4: That's what that is. It was just like, that's it's
Speaker 4: not fun.
Speaker 9: This guy has to his arms extended out and just
Speaker 9: kind of pushing out like in discust a little.
Speaker 4: Bit discussed exactly discussed being the word Derek.
Speaker 7: That's the NFL looking at the Monday night game last
Speaker 7: week when Chubb goes down with that injury, like, oh god,
Speaker 7: I don't want to see that.
Speaker 4: That's that's what that is.
Speaker 3: That's surely the look I get when I find out
Speaker 3: who the official is for the game.
Speaker 10: All right.
Speaker 9: The little boy that sits on the couch with a
Speaker 9: cup that's kind of with a smirk, smiling for.
Speaker 8: Me, that that's me looking at everybody who wanted Jordan
Speaker 8: Lewis to be on Puff to start the season.
Speaker 4: That's yeah, how you're feeling out?
Speaker 3: All right, that's when I had a second round grade
Speaker 3: on Oh so Diggy's watt and he actually got taken
Speaker 3: in the third.
Speaker 4: All right.
Speaker 7: That's that's Cowboys fans on Mondays after a win, and
Speaker 7: how they look at stephen A and Shady McCoy. Yeah,
Speaker 7: now Bart Scott and now Scott, all the haters.
Speaker 3: Bart Scott's a bigger gosh. Did you see what he says?
Speaker 4: That was this guy.
Speaker 3: I was Bart Scott. That was Bart Scott. I was
Speaker 3: that guy.
Speaker 9: Yeah, all right, we got the little girl. This is
Speaker 9: my favorite meme, the little girl that it's like in
Speaker 9: the car scene with the weird look like.
Speaker 3: That's when the cowboys try and run a screen.
Speaker 8: That was That was almost literally me yesterday when someone
Speaker 8: tweeted me about how Deron Bland wasn't good enough. Teams
Speaker 8: are going to quote unquote pick on Jordan Lewis.
Speaker 4: Here, Like, what are you talking? That's a good one.
Speaker 7: Okay, that would be uh, that would be Dak when
Speaker 7: he's asked by the media about interceptions.
Speaker 3: Oh, that is.
Speaker 4: Fed up over It's like still.
Speaker 3: Before.
Speaker 9: Oh the little boy sitting on the couch with his
Speaker 9: arm crossed, looking all serious.
Speaker 3: This is me when I do postgame show on Dallas
Speaker 3: Cowboys Dot on the radio with the Winter five three
Speaker 3: the fan, and I know I have to do it
Speaker 3: till one thirty in the morning.
Speaker 8: I'm going I'm going to go back to going to
Speaker 8: go back to Santa Clair January. That was me seeing
Speaker 8: the Cowboys hold the forty nine ers to nineteen points
Speaker 8: and lose one.
Speaker 7: That was Jerry yesterday, but Mike went to tell him
Speaker 7: that another player got hurt.
Speaker 2: Another two players got hurt on Thursday.
Speaker 3: Practice Cross What are we Why are we practice?
Speaker 4: Why are we practicing at all?
Speaker 9: We're gonna stop practicing just to walk through? Oh mm,
Speaker 9: guy looking holding the phone.
Speaker 3: That's when I was calling my gang of seven and
Speaker 3: asking who what corners were available on the street and
Speaker 3: which once you would poach off another team that was
Speaker 3: making some calls yesterday. That was me.
Speaker 8: That was me trying my best to get as much
Speaker 8: information on digs as possible yesterday, knowing that I probably
Speaker 8: was really bad news.
Speaker 4: So you see the look on his face here, He's
Speaker 4: just waiting for the ball to drop. That was me.
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's pretty much everybody last night, especially after you
Speaker 7: heard about Trayvon and then you're waiting to find out
Speaker 7: what's going to happen with That's everybody on the phone
Speaker 7: with their friends like yeah, do you said?
Speaker 3: What? What? Yeah?
Speaker 10: All right, last one, since we're running out.
Speaker 9: Of time, got three minutes, Well, we got predictions.
Speaker 10: This one is a grandma holding them up and a
Speaker 10: whole bunch of cash.
Speaker 8: On the other hand, I know that one is it's
Speaker 8: going to be ceedee lamb here in the near future.
Speaker 2: That's Diggs agent. No, He's like, yeah, bro, we got.
Speaker 3: We got it.
Speaker 2: Got you just worried about it all the time. We
Speaker 2: got all money though. Old Michael Parsons, Yeah, Michael Parsons.
Speaker 3: That could be also could be Zach Martin or after
Speaker 3: that hold out in the show yesterday he was old.
Speaker 3: He's like, I'm an old guy out here.
Speaker 10: It worked his way for sure. I like the all right,
Speaker 10: well thank you.
Speaker 3: That might need to be a weekly thing.
Speaker 10: We'll bring it out some other time.
Speaker 3: All right, this fun.
Speaker 2: Let's get the predictions.
Speaker 7: I want to hear what you guys think is gonna
Speaker 7: happen with the final score, will be let's start with you.
Speaker 3: Brian Cowboys twenty eight, Arizona twenty. I think this is
Speaker 3: going to be a closer game. I think Arizona's going
Speaker 3: to find a way to kind of try and maybe
Speaker 3: hocus pocus you a little bit on some of their
Speaker 3: offensive stuff. I think this quarterback is good enough to
Speaker 3: run around a little bit. I know people are talking
Speaker 3: about blowouts and stuff. I just think the Cowboys are
Speaker 3: kind of in a weird place. I think the nine
Speaker 3: games here, they're two and seven in the desert, it's
Speaker 3: kind of some weird mojo going on in the desert.
Speaker 3: Dallas twenty eight, Arizona twenty.
Speaker 9: I could say something like thirty five twelve. I still
Speaker 9: think that the defense, regardless of the changes, it can
Speaker 9: still be pretty pretty pretty good, if not great. So
Speaker 9: I think they'll still make it very competitive. And I'm
Speaker 9: hoping to see the offense if everybody's back where there
Speaker 9: should be, I'm hoping to see the offense kind of
Speaker 9: gain that spark back a little bit.
Speaker 4: I was before the Digs injury.
Speaker 8: I was going to say, you know, it probably would
Speaker 8: have been in the high twenties as far as scoring
Speaker 8: for the Cowboys.
Speaker 4: Maybe the low thirties.
Speaker 8: But I get the feeling that the Cowboys are going
Speaker 8: to come out trying to play for Trevon Diggs and
Speaker 8: trying to win this game and dominate this game for
Speaker 8: Treyvon Diggs. Unfortunately for the Cardinals, yet they don't have
Speaker 8: to play Travon Diggs. But now they got to play
Speaker 8: Cowboys defense that wants to show out.
Speaker 4: For their brother.
Speaker 8: So forty two for the Cowboys who want to go
Speaker 8: out and send the message on all sides of the ball.
Speaker 8: But again, I think the Cardinals can be scrappy, So
Speaker 8: I think they score a touchdown and then get a
Speaker 8: field goal.
Speaker 4: So forty two to ten.
Speaker 8: Cowboys are playing some real meaningful football in the absence
Speaker 8: of Digs.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think this is an offensive explosion for the Cowboys.
Speaker 2: I agree with you, Brian.
Speaker 7: I think the defense of the Cardinals has been pretty good,
Speaker 7: better than their record suggests. I think what's going to
Speaker 7: make them take a step back is the loss of
Speaker 7: Buda Baker. Budda Baker, I think the corners he is
Speaker 7: one of the better players on that defense, if not
Speaker 7: the best player on that defense. I think that's going
Speaker 7: to matter in this game. I think the Cowboys offense
Speaker 7: will round into shape this game. They'll show us something
Speaker 7: we haven't really seen from them all season. I think
Speaker 7: they're gonna move the ball really well, and this time
Speaker 7: they're going to get it in the end zone when
Speaker 7: they have those opportunities. I think the final score ends
Speaker 7: up being thirty eight to thirteen.
Speaker 4: Give them the forty burger. You're not gonna give him
Speaker 4: a forty burger.
Speaker 3: Nobody likes the desperate team three.
Speaker 4: I don't know they're.
Speaker 7: Well, you know, honestly, if we're playing I would be
Speaker 7: a little more in on that. I just think that's
Speaker 7: a big loss for a team like that lacks the
Speaker 7: veteran leadership as well. Like, I just think that that's
Speaker 7: a big loss real quick.
Speaker 3: I was on Arizona Radio this morning before we came
Speaker 3: on here, and they were they're pleased the way the
Speaker 3: Cardinals were playing, believe it or not. They were like, man, hey,
Speaker 3: we're they're not tanking. They're trying, so we'll see maybe
Speaker 3: have a little pride.
Speaker 2: They're playing decent football.
Speaker 7: This is not a bad team, Like and I know
Speaker 7: they're right about getting smashed down the bottom, but they
Speaker 7: are not bad.
Speaker 8: They're going in Cowboys are with a lot of emotion
Speaker 8: based on the digs injury.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I think they're going to try and seven.
Speaker 8: If you thought they were going to try to beat
Speaker 8: down the Cardinals and they were at the emotional wave,
Speaker 8: that's coming as well.
Speaker 7: All right, real quick, we also got to get a
Speaker 7: pod pick in here. My producer Chris Beam just told
Speaker 7: me we got to ask what is who's the first
Speaker 7: first non offensive touchdown of the.
Speaker 4: Game, none offensive touchdown? Sam Williams, DeMarcus Lawrence.
Speaker 10: Jordans.
Speaker 4: I liked it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, I'm gonna say Turpin.
Speaker 8: Oh, I'm gonna say he gonna take it back, take
Speaker 8: it to the crew, cack or punt something, take it.
Speaker 4: To the crew.
Speaker 2: All Right, we got our we got our answers.
Speaker 7: We are ready to roll. We'll be back on Monday.
Speaker 7: We'll let you know what went right and wrong for
Speaker 7: the Cowboys. Till then, for Brian brought us, Patrick Walker,
Speaker 7: Amber Garcia. I'm Derek Hilts and this has been The
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