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Speaker 1: Hi, everyone, Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com.

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Speaker 1: I am Mike Spofford. He is my trusted colleague West Hodquits.

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Speaker 1: We're coming to you here from our studios at lambeau

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Speaker 1: Field West. We are back from Winnipeg, and I'm not

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Speaker 1: quite sure what to call what happened in Winnipeg, but

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Speaker 1: there were there was a a problem with the field

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Speaker 1: and a football scrimmage broke out or something like that,

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Speaker 1: because as we all know by now eighty yard field,

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Speaker 1: there was a problem in the end zones. Both teams

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Speaker 1: basically decided to rest all their starters. It was a

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Speaker 1: battle of the backups from the I was gonna say

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Speaker 1: opening kickoff, but there wasn't even an opening kickoff, so

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Speaker 1: I can't even say open. But anyway, bottom line, Packers

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Speaker 1: and Raiders played preseason Game three, but it actually looked

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Speaker 1: a lot like more like a preseason game one because

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Speaker 1: none of the starters were in the game. Yeah, it

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Speaker 1: was funny too because I was talking to him Boil

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Speaker 1: about this after the game and he said, it's probably

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Speaker 1: the closest thing he's played to a backyard football game

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Speaker 1: since he was a kid. Because there were no goal

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Speaker 1: posts interns. Well there were goal post but you can

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Speaker 1: kick field goals, but there were no kickoffs, I should say, Uh,

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Speaker 1: you had the issue at the end zones, so you're

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Speaker 1: throwing between the ten and zero goal line, ten on

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Speaker 1: each end of the field. So all of that stuff

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Speaker 1: made it for kind of a wild deal. But as

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Speaker 1: you said, the most important thing is Mike. For a

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Speaker 1: lot of young guys on this roster, it was another opportunity.

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Speaker 1: It was another opportunity to go out there and show

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Speaker 1: that they belong and when final cuts get made next week,

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Speaker 1: that they deserve to be on the fifty three man rosters.

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Speaker 1: So while it had such unique circumstances surrounding the game,

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Speaker 1: the goals and objectives for the players that were suited

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Speaker 1: up were very real. Yeah, And we had talked heading

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Speaker 1: in to that game about a couple of guys who

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Speaker 1: were due to injuries, were making their preseason debuts in

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Speaker 1: Game three, and I thought both of them came out

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Speaker 1: of that game with exactly what they were looking for.

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Speaker 1: And I'm talking about Trevor Davis and Josh Jackson, one

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Speaker 1: player on each side of the ball for the Packers.

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Speaker 1: Trevor Davis, I tell you we talked about him when

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Speaker 1: he got back into practice coming back from the stinger injury,

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Speaker 1: how he kind of picked up where he left off. Well,

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Speaker 1: he took everything that he was doing in practice and

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Speaker 1: he did it in the game. He if you were

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Speaker 1: to pick one star of the game, aside from quarterback

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Speaker 1: Tim Boyle, who I think we'll get to, but Trevor

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Speaker 1: Davis was the guy who really shine on this night.

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Speaker 1: Trevor Davis was the star of this game, regardless of

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Speaker 1: the other positions and whatnot, because of what he could

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Speaker 1: potentially mean to this offense and to this team should

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Speaker 1: he be on the fifty three a week from now.

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Speaker 1: He is dynamic, he is versatile, and now he's contributing

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Speaker 1: as a receiver. I honestly believe, Mike, if you just

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Speaker 1: showed me the film of Trevor Davis running routes back

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Speaker 1: in two thousand sixteen as opposed to where he is

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Speaker 1: at today, I think there's a night and day difference.

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Speaker 1: And it's not just being able to be crisp and

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Speaker 1: be able to be accountable and exactly where you need

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Speaker 1: to be. The guy is catching everything. He has made

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Speaker 1: up for lost time, and I thought it was very interesting.

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Speaker 1: He said this after the game. You know, he sort

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Speaker 1: of need to remind everybody of where he was before

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Speaker 1: that stinger against Houston and in the path he had

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Speaker 1: been on, and he needed to be able to put

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Speaker 1: that production into a game. If you wouldn't have known

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Speaker 1: any better, you would have thought Trevor Davis would have

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Speaker 1: been out there the entire training camp, had not missed

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Speaker 1: get five catches for seven eight yards and a touchdown

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Speaker 1: eighteen yards off of reverse, a seventeen yard punt returned

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Speaker 1: the guys of the number one gunner right now and

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Speaker 1: punt coverage, Trevor Davis is in all the exact spots

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Speaker 1: he needs to be to put himself on this active roster. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's definitely stating his case that that there is a

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Speaker 1: place for him, both on offense and on special teams

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Speaker 1: on this roster. I want to say one more thing too,

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Speaker 1: because he's not here anymore, and and certainly things did

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Speaker 1: not go the way they wanted to, but Trevor Davis

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Speaker 1: had a massive advocate in ron Zoock last year, and

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Speaker 1: this is a guy that really believed in his talent,

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Speaker 1: not only just as a returner, but spoke very highly

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Speaker 1: of him as a football player. If this ultimately ends

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Speaker 1: up playing out the way Trevor Davis wants it to,

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Speaker 1: I think you need to keep ron Zuck in the

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Speaker 1: him to be on that roster. Yeah, and with with

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Speaker 1: all the injuries and everything that he dealt with last year.

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Speaker 1: When other teams in a lot of those types of

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Speaker 1: stuck with Davis and it looks like it could pay

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Speaker 1: dividends for them. Josh Jackson missed the first few weeks

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Speaker 1: of training camp with a foot injury, was brought back

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Speaker 1: in very slowly in terms of working his way up

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Speaker 1: to eleven on eleven um, and as we had mentioned

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Speaker 1: last week, kind of a forgotten guy in this whole

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Speaker 1: cornerback mix. As Tony Brown has come on as the

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Speaker 1: rookie sixth round picked from Toledo, Kadar Holman showed some things.

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Speaker 1: Even Chandon Sullivan an undraft a guy, but Josh Jackson,

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Speaker 1: he gets in and early in that game, a couple

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Speaker 1: of past breakups, a couple of nice play defensive plays downfield.

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Speaker 1: He's got his feetback under him. Again, he did exactly

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Speaker 1: what he needed to do in this game. I'm not

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Speaker 1: sure in this whole cornerback rotation how it's going to

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Speaker 1: at least had that opportunity to to say, Hey, everybody,

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Speaker 1: I'm still here. So it was interesting. I talked with

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Speaker 1: you know, there was still some rust he had to

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Speaker 1: things considered, in the time he missed with the foot

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Speaker 1: injury and the fact that those were really his first

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Speaker 1: one play after another. Was actually in a game. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: in a sequence. I thought he played pretty dang well.

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Speaker 1: I thought so too. To have to pass deflections um

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Speaker 1: not really any catches given up or allowed. I just

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Speaker 1: thought it was very consistent performance for him, something to

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Speaker 1: build on, and let's be honest, Mike. I wrote it

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Speaker 1: in the story that we posted on Packers dot Com

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Speaker 1: on Monday, the Packers this is a guy that played

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Speaker 1: sixteen games from last year started ten of them in

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Speaker 1: this secondary Josh Jackson was a very big part of

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Speaker 1: this scheme and had he not been injured at the

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Speaker 1: beating of the camp, would have been out there with

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Speaker 1: the defensive sub packages. So question not sure exactly where

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Speaker 1: all shuffles out with Jaire Alexander and Tony Brown. We've

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Speaker 1: said it time and time again, Mike, you need options

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Speaker 1: at that position, and Josh Jackson gives the Packers another

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Speaker 1: one of them. Yeah. Well, another guy we need to

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Speaker 1: talk about in terms of really stepping forward in this

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Speaker 1: game against Winnipeg. He's the guy who got the starting

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Speaker 1: on offense resting and it's Tim Boyle. And we will

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Speaker 1: see how things play out this week with the preseason

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Speaker 1: finale against Kansas City. But this is the first time,

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Speaker 1: I guess you could say, West that we've really seen

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Speaker 1: what could be a a flip in the quarterback pecking

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Speaker 1: order here. Tim Boyle made his case with a really

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Speaker 1: really solid performance in Winnipeg to potentially be the number

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Speaker 1: two quarterback behind Aaron Rodgers. I have two thoughts on this.

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Speaker 1: The first one is boil was exceptional. Started slowly, almost

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Speaker 1: the first the first quarter was not going well, and

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Speaker 1: I don't you know, I don't care if the goal

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Speaker 1: Three consecutive drives that end in touchdowns. That's that's doing something.

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Speaker 1: That's production. And I don't want to put words in

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Speaker 1: Tim Boyle's mouth, but just watching him and talking to

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Speaker 1: him a little bit after the game, to me, that

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Speaker 1: is probably the most confident he's looked in the Packers uniform.

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Speaker 1: Once he got that first touchdown producing series, it was

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Speaker 1: important for them to come back and get another one.

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Speaker 1: He had some nighte s down field passes. Uh. He

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Speaker 1: he stood tall, made the throws he had to make,

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Speaker 1: and he cut down in some of the erratic nature

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Speaker 1: with some of those downfield throws. I just thought it

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Speaker 1: the Packers have taken with Tim Boyle, and this is

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Speaker 1: a credit to Mike McCarthy who and his staff and

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Speaker 1: now with what Matt Lafleur has done, I think this

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Speaker 1: is one of the most even keeled, balanced development of

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Speaker 1: Tim Boil didn't play a lot during the off season.

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Speaker 1: He didn't see a lot of snaps during training camp,

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Speaker 1: an extended amount of snaps. They were really careful with him,

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Speaker 1: and as you said, they have him pushing for that

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Speaker 1: there's a lot that's still on the line between him

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Speaker 1: and Deshaun Kaiser. But I just thought Tim Boyle's performance.

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Speaker 1: If you're Matt Lafleur, in this coaching staff and you're

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Speaker 1: looking for signs that this guy has taken that next step.

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Speaker 1: I thought you definitely saw them in Winnipeg. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: think what stood out to me, and it's not just

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Speaker 1: very impressive and all that, but when Boyle got into

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Speaker 1: the second quarter, overcame that slow start, started moving the

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Speaker 1: into a rhythm and that's the confidence you were talking about.

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Speaker 1: He was dropping back, planning his back foot and letting

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Speaker 1: quite frankly and a lot of it has to do

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Speaker 1: all that. That's all part of it, but that kind

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Speaker 1: of rhythm has been so rare for a Packers backup

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Speaker 1: the best quarter of football I've seen by a Packers

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Speaker 1: a handful of years. And we saw some nice flashes

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Speaker 1: from Brett Hunley. We've seen some flashes from Deshaun Kaiser,

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Speaker 1: But in terms of three consecutive drives where the quarterback

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Speaker 1: that's what really stood out. Yeah, it was the most

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Speaker 1: impressive quarter I've seen from a backup quarterbacks since. As

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Speaker 1: I mentioned before, Graham Harrold keeping his job at the

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Speaker 1: which he really needed that. I just thought Boyle was confident.

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Speaker 1: GM ever bats a thousand with those types of decisions,

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Speaker 1: I let's be honest. I mean, you fill out a

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Speaker 1: they have to produce. Yeah, alright, well, with that, we

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