WEBVTT - Big Mike on Death Row, Rap-A-Lot & Being A Geto Boy 0:00:00.000 --> 0:00:04.080 Against the Chronic goals. This is not your average shows. 0:00:04.480 --> 0:00:06.560 You're now tuned into the rail. 0:00:09.920 --> 0:00:19.079 The Streets. Welcome to the gainst the Chronicles podcast, the 0:00:19.160 --> 0:00:22.680 production of iHeart Radio and Black Effect podcast Network. Make 0:00:22.720 --> 0:00:25.240 sure you download the iHeart app and subscribe to Against 0:00:25.239 --> 0:00:27.960 the Chronicles. For my Apple users, hit the Purple Michael 0:00:28.000 --> 0:00:30.680 your front screen subscribed Against the Chronicles, leave a five 0:00:30.760 --> 0:00:33.120 start rating and comment what. 0:00:33.159 --> 0:00:37.000 Your father did or you know, I know my father 0:00:37.240 --> 0:00:42.319 was in the Navy and whatever whatever. Uh, But by 0:00:42.440 --> 0:00:48.040 the time you know, my generation rolled around, I guess 0:00:48.120 --> 0:00:52.920 you could say those choices that they presented to your 0:00:53.000 --> 0:00:58.720 dad's and your grandfathers were looked at in different lights 0:00:59.360 --> 0:01:03.320 coming from when I first stepped off the porch, You 0:01:03.400 --> 0:01:08.959 get me right, You know, of course, you know, of 0:01:09.040 --> 0:01:11.679 course it was sports. You know, our niggas could play 0:01:11.720 --> 0:01:14.960 sports type of ship. And then you know, I guess 0:01:14.959 --> 0:01:18.200 in our father's days it was like nigga go to 0:01:18.240 --> 0:01:19.000 the military. 0:01:19.360 --> 0:01:20.039 You found me. 0:01:21.520 --> 0:01:27.319 That was frowned upon when we was coming up as kids. 0:01:27.440 --> 0:01:35.840 You get uh, right, And and I don't know, you know, 0:01:36.000 --> 0:01:40.520 some of us probably tried to make those choices. Who knows, 0:01:40.880 --> 0:01:45.479 Before you know, you got introduced to what we talking 0:01:45.520 --> 0:01:51.040 about right now, the street life. Once you got introduced 0:01:51.040 --> 0:01:55.360 as far as our generation is concerned, once the street 0:01:55.400 --> 0:01:58.560 life was sent it to me, I thought that was 0:01:58.680 --> 0:02:05.000 the life choice, get me going to the military or 0:02:05.000 --> 0:02:07.800 trying to play sports. You know, after high school it 0:02:07.960 --> 0:02:14.000 was like man ship like like like did niggas feel 0:02:14.280 --> 0:02:18.320 educated enough to try something else? Or was it the 0:02:18.919 --> 0:02:22.080 was it was it that that life style out back 0:02:22.160 --> 0:02:25.200 the end of introduction in the eighties and the seventies 0:02:25.240 --> 0:02:27.919 of the drugs and the life and the money and all. 0:02:28.440 --> 0:02:32.360 Did that sway of nigga's options. You feel me because 0:02:32.400 --> 0:02:35.520 I think, you know, I'm a product of that. 0:02:35.680 --> 0:02:41.440 You know, at the high school played sports, but but. 0:02:41.480 --> 0:02:43.400 Then the streets too, you feel me. 0:02:44.160 --> 0:02:49.840 And no, maybe just kind of lean towards the streets 0:02:49.880 --> 0:02:54.160 too much and couldn't make up that lost time, you 0:02:54.240 --> 0:02:58.720 know what I'm saying. But yeah, definitely coming out of 0:02:59.320 --> 0:03:02.560 coming out of out of the low income situations and 0:03:02.639 --> 0:03:06.320 things like that. You know, we was out there taking chances, 0:03:06.320 --> 0:03:10.920 and we was trying to get us some money, some 0:03:11.040 --> 0:03:14.080 immediate money. So a lot of cats went to the 0:03:14.080 --> 0:03:15.720 streets to get that immediate money. 0:03:15.880 --> 0:03:17.079 Some cats was patient. 0:03:17.360 --> 0:03:17.880 You feel me. 0:03:18.360 --> 0:03:20.840 They saw the school thing through, you know what I mean, 0:03:20.960 --> 0:03:28.320 stuff whatever recreational situation they was in, whether football, basketball, 0:03:28.400 --> 0:03:29.520 whatever the arts. 0:03:29.800 --> 0:03:32.240 But I think it's just a situation. 0:03:32.360 --> 0:03:36.280 I just think it's about, you know, if your draw 0:03:36.400 --> 0:03:39.720 to the streets, you feel me, and then just. 0:03:39.600 --> 0:03:41.600 Being young and making them decisions. 0:03:41.240 --> 0:03:44.119 On your own like that, were not realizing how young 0:03:44.160 --> 0:03:46.400 we is in our own head. We think we're grown. 0:03:46.680 --> 0:03:49.920 You feel me, and it's not making the right choice. 0:03:49.960 --> 0:03:52.280 And we see that now. But back then, you know, 0:03:52.600 --> 0:04:00.000 nigga was bro good luck fam. 0:04:00.800 --> 0:04:02.840 Yeah, you know what you talk about. One time, Me 0:04:02.880 --> 0:04:04.960 and you was rapping the other day, man, and uh, 0:04:05.880 --> 0:04:08.120 I think people have this idea that when you were 0:04:08.120 --> 0:04:10.520 a rapper, when you signed a contract, you riched off 0:04:10.520 --> 0:04:12.800 the bat and you was telling me a story about 0:04:12.840 --> 0:04:15.400 how your moms had called you. You was out here 0:04:15.440 --> 0:04:17.760 in California messing with death Row, and your moms had 0:04:17.800 --> 0:04:19.360 called you because they was about to kick her off 0:04:19.400 --> 0:04:22.680 the call the projects and she needed some money. 0:04:23.400 --> 0:04:25.120 Oh yeah, yeah, definitely. 0:04:26.040 --> 0:04:28.320 This was on around the time when Men with Me 0:04:28.360 --> 0:04:30.360 and three two we was we had came out there, 0:04:30.360 --> 0:04:33.719 We're about to do the thing with death Row. But 0:04:33.800 --> 0:04:36.480 we had just got there, so business wasn't handled, but 0:04:36.560 --> 0:04:39.000 nothing like that. We we had probably just arrived, man, 0:04:39.040 --> 0:04:41.039 I don't know. I think we was there probably about 0:04:41.040 --> 0:04:46.640 a week or so. And I went to Sugar's office 0:04:46.640 --> 0:04:48.760 to call my mom. Actually, can I use the phone? 0:04:48.760 --> 0:04:51.200 He was like, yeah, you know, make the long distance call. 0:04:51.880 --> 0:04:54.600 So I called my mama and shit, and she. 0:04:54.640 --> 0:04:55.240 Was on the phone. 0:04:55.279 --> 0:04:57.320 She was telling me she was she was in distress, 0:04:57.360 --> 0:04:58.200 and she was like. 0:04:58.440 --> 0:05:02.200 Man, I need some money right And I'm like, damn, 0:05:02.279 --> 0:05:04.039 I ain't got no money right now. I just got 0:05:04.040 --> 0:05:06.880 out here with these folks. We ain't handle no business yet, 0:05:06.960 --> 0:05:08.680 you feel me. I'm like, what's going on? 0:05:09.279 --> 0:05:09.520 Yeah? 0:05:09.600 --> 0:05:12.000 Man, they about the victims out the project. We're standing 0:05:12.000 --> 0:05:14.240 in the project at the time. I'm the oldest side 0:05:14.240 --> 0:05:16.120 of nine kids, so the rest of the kids was 0:05:16.160 --> 0:05:16.680 in the house. 0:05:17.080 --> 0:05:18.479 I think one of my sisters. 0:05:18.520 --> 0:05:21.520 My sister was probably in Houston at the time, but 0:05:21.560 --> 0:05:24.360 this was day my mom was in New Orleans and 0:05:25.080 --> 0:05:27.080 mal Man, I'm hurt. I can't help my mom, you 0:05:27.160 --> 0:05:29.559 know what I mean. I'm sharing a few tears. She'll 0:05:29.720 --> 0:05:32.039 walk back in the office. He seen me on the 0:05:32.120 --> 0:05:33.640 phone shearing tears. 0:05:34.240 --> 0:05:35.279 He was like, who that is? 0:05:35.360 --> 0:05:37.279 I say, man, it's my mama. And he was like 0:05:37.520 --> 0:05:39.400 he got just got the phone for me, told me 0:05:39.440 --> 0:05:42.120 to wait outside. Came back outside. He was like, man, 0:05:42.120 --> 0:05:44.360 we finna get ready to go out. And I was like, well, 0:05:44.360 --> 0:05:46.600 my mama had. He was like, she's gonna call you tomorrow. 0:05:46.640 --> 0:05:50.200 Come back up here. She's gonna call you up here tomorrow. 0:05:50.480 --> 0:05:52.359 So the next day I had came up there, my 0:05:52.440 --> 0:05:54.560 mom called up there and she was. 0:05:54.520 --> 0:05:56.560 Like, Hey, tell your friend. I say thank you, I 0:05:56.600 --> 0:05:59.000 say what happened? She was like, yeah, send me five 0:05:59.040 --> 0:06:00.400 thousand dollars. We about to move. 0:06:00.520 --> 0:06:01.000 You feel me? 0:06:01.600 --> 0:06:03.920 And like, I say, five thousand dollars at that time, 0:06:04.000 --> 0:06:06.039 that was probably the most money my mamad held in 0:06:06.080 --> 0:06:07.119 her hand at one time. 0:06:07.440 --> 0:06:09.000 You feel me right now. 0:06:09.160 --> 0:06:11.520 It wasn't enough to go buy no house, right but 0:06:11.680 --> 0:06:14.080 went from the projects to a nice rent house. You 0:06:14.120 --> 0:06:17.200 did what I'm saying, So I'll never forget that gesture 0:06:17.240 --> 0:06:17.680 right there. 0:06:18.440 --> 0:06:21.039 I never get that, you know what. I'm glad you 0:06:21.120 --> 0:06:24.520 said that, man, because that's one thing I want to say. 0:06:24.600 --> 0:06:27.800 Everybody always talk about the bad stuff that should did it. 0:06:27.880 --> 0:06:29.560 Should did a game of that shit too. 0:06:31.400 --> 0:06:36.160 I can't, at least my testimony, you feel me about 0:06:36.200 --> 0:06:39.640 that incident. Yeah, that was real right there. That was 0:06:39.720 --> 0:06:41.279 real right there. You know what I mean. I didn't 0:06:41.279 --> 0:06:44.359 been in situations you know what I'm saying, Well, a 0:06:44.400 --> 0:06:46.760 motherfucker would probably try to take advantage of me in 0:06:46.800 --> 0:06:50.719 that situation. You feel me, right, Let you write a 0:06:50.760 --> 0:06:53.200 couple of songs, man, and you know what I mean? 0:06:53.320 --> 0:06:55.520 This and that, this and that you feel me? The 0:06:55.600 --> 0:06:57.560 man did it. He ain't even asked for it back. 0:06:57.640 --> 0:07:00.680 I had just got there, So I thought that was real. 0:07:00.800 --> 0:07:03.080 I thought that was real. That was one of the 0:07:03.320 --> 0:07:07.000 one of the realist gestures that that that that I 0:07:07.440 --> 0:07:09.680 was able to have the benefit you know what I mean. 0:07:10.520 --> 0:07:16.240 The scene, Yeah, that was a crucial period. Man, yo 0:07:16.520 --> 0:07:18.520 shoot yo was coming up. That was just like the 0:07:18.640 --> 0:07:19.720 dawn against the rep. 0:07:23.880 --> 0:07:28.800 The light had already started shining, but it was still 0:07:28.880 --> 0:07:29.560 kind of early. 0:07:30.640 --> 0:07:33.360 What year was that? What year was that? 0:07:33.520 --> 0:07:37.000 I think this was probably like this had to be 0:07:37.080 --> 0:07:43.920 like ninety one and ninety two, ninety one, Yeah. 0:07:43.560 --> 0:07:50.320 Yeah, yeah, I remember when y'all first came out this way. Yeah, 0:07:51.760 --> 0:07:56.040 they was, and she was around all that then. Yeah, 0:07:56.080 --> 0:07:59.320 I was around then. It was around I had an 0:07:59.320 --> 0:08:04.800 association and with you know, with through one of the 0:08:04.840 --> 0:08:10.280 producers unknown Yeah, used to work on our music. He 0:08:10.440 --> 0:08:14.920 was also in Incahoops with trying to I guess get 0:08:15.000 --> 0:08:18.200 some work for him and slip over at death Ro, 0:08:18.800 --> 0:08:22.400 you know, with knowing Dre and the history of Prey 0:08:22.520 --> 0:08:25.680 and the record crew. A non came from that era, 0:08:26.000 --> 0:08:29.760 you know know heja techno hop. You know, it's where 0:08:29.760 --> 0:08:33.199 I got my start. Dudes like King T and so forth. 0:08:33.280 --> 0:08:37.240 I tea so a known was around me and and 0:08:37.400 --> 0:08:41.319 uh that's how I sort of like the death Ro 0:08:41.520 --> 0:08:47.280 name came about, because you know, a known I think 0:08:47.720 --> 0:08:51.319 should with the name. Whatever the history is about that. 0:08:51.440 --> 0:08:54.120 We all sat down and thought of the name and 0:08:54.160 --> 0:08:58.280 it was felt differently and whatever. Anyway, Uh, yeah, he 0:08:58.440 --> 0:09:01.360 was over there as a producer, and that's how we 0:09:01.600 --> 0:09:06.400 got to know that big mic and three two came 0:09:06.440 --> 0:09:11.679 out Texas and Louisiana, uh, and was on Uh it 0:09:11.800 --> 0:09:14.760 was supposed to be the Fluge project on Death Row 0:09:15.520 --> 0:09:17.640 if if I'm not mistaken. 0:09:17.840 --> 0:09:22.160 Right, Yeah, we knew about you, about. 0:09:21.920 --> 0:09:25.720 The apartment and everything. I knew about all that ship man. Yeah, 0:09:25.760 --> 0:09:27.880 because like I said, no one used to go up 0:09:27.880 --> 0:09:31.320 there and uh, you know he's he was supposedly be 0:09:31.440 --> 0:09:33.920 doing work in music for Sugar and them. 0:09:33.920 --> 0:09:37.440 So just because he was working on the convicts app 0:09:37.679 --> 0:09:42.200 him and Big Slip mm hmm, there was. We was 0:09:42.240 --> 0:09:46.200 we started off grinding with them. Yeah, we had did 0:09:46.240 --> 0:09:48.400 and we did a handful of songs. I remember Slip 0:09:48.400 --> 0:09:53.040 had then the first version to own Straight Gangsterism M 0:09:53.160 --> 0:09:56.320 that wegains I got man. I wish I had a 0:09:56.320 --> 0:09:59.360 copy of that, but he did. Yeah, and Unknown he 0:09:59.480 --> 0:10:00.520 was putting it down too. 0:10:01.120 --> 0:10:06.280 Yeah, it was a record winding records. 0:10:07.040 --> 0:10:08.880 No, man, we would have to get that Slip for 0:10:08.920 --> 0:10:17.760 that record right there. Yeah, Slip had that ship man 0:10:18.360 --> 0:10:19.000 Slip did. 0:10:19.160 --> 0:10:25.240 Man got out. That's crazy. So you was out here, 0:10:25.679 --> 0:10:27.880 so that means you was working with Snoop and all them, 0:10:28.000 --> 0:10:29.840 d o C and all the other cats. 0:10:30.160 --> 0:10:36.640 Yep, yep, d C was there, Rage who most of 0:10:36.679 --> 0:10:39.079 the you know, the useful suspects. 0:10:39.520 --> 0:10:41.040 Uh, it was. It was. 0:10:41.080 --> 0:10:42.760 It was a heck of experience bro. 0:10:43.200 --> 0:10:45.760 Us coming out there, being out in California like that 0:10:45.800 --> 0:10:50.080 for the first time in the presence of people that 0:10:50.120 --> 0:10:53.199 we was listening to, you know what I mean, Doctor 0:10:53.320 --> 0:10:56.760 dray d o Ce, you feel me. We wanted we 0:10:56.880 --> 0:10:59.720 got eight up here We're seeing. It was just like 0:11:00.240 --> 0:11:02.959 you know, the Texas we fucked with the West Coast 0:11:03.040 --> 0:11:03.920 heavy back then. 0:11:04.240 --> 0:11:04.800 You feel me. 0:11:05.360 --> 0:11:08.840 They go ask youngsters right now, you know they it's 0:11:08.880 --> 0:11:14.360 really about your location now, you feel me, Jack, Yeah, 0:11:14.400 --> 0:11:17.080 we've rolled with the West Coast heavy back then. So 0:11:17.120 --> 0:11:19.840 to be able to come meet these guys, man, it 0:11:19.960 --> 0:11:22.640 was just like a dream come true. It was it was, 0:11:22.720 --> 0:11:24.520 it was, it was, it was. It was a hell 0:11:24.559 --> 0:11:27.080 of a high. I ain't gonna lie it was. It 0:11:27.120 --> 0:11:28.760 was a time for me in three two. 0:11:30.640 --> 0:11:35.080 That's crazy, man. So nineteen ninety one, shoot, I don't 0:11:35.120 --> 0:11:38.880 even know. I'm trying to think who was out she 0:11:38.880 --> 0:11:41.120 would have drop the record, but then huh by that point, 0:11:41.200 --> 0:11:45.480 h yeah, yeah, check yeah. 0:11:45.480 --> 0:11:48.320 I was on my second album around ninety one. Ninety two. 0:11:50.080 --> 0:11:51.400 Yeah, that's crazy. 0:11:51.960 --> 0:11:57.240 We'll drop We'll dropped the accomptant thing. And then I just. 0:11:57.280 --> 0:12:03.680 Dropped ninety two ropped, uh straight checking them with growing up. 0:12:03.600 --> 0:12:08.679 In the thing in the apartment, man, man, bang it 0:12:09.840 --> 0:12:15.880 on them trainks smoking that cat, We banging it. But yeah, 0:12:15.960 --> 0:12:17.440 it was. It was a cool time, man. 0:12:17.520 --> 0:12:20.040 I wish we would have had the opportunity to see 0:12:20.040 --> 0:12:22.920 the project all the way through, you feel me. But 0:12:23.760 --> 0:12:27.319 things happened. I got presented with an opportunity, you know 0:12:27.360 --> 0:12:30.920 what I mean. And it happened around the time when 0:12:30.960 --> 0:12:34.000 like production kind of slowed down on the Convicts thing, 0:12:34.160 --> 0:12:36.480 right because it was other things going on at the label. 0:12:36.800 --> 0:12:40.079 You feel me, and I had already had responsibilities by then, 0:12:40.280 --> 0:12:43.760 you feel me. So I was I was like, I 0:12:43.800 --> 0:12:46.360 was kind of like on the clock. I needed to 0:12:46.400 --> 0:12:49.120 get get in the situation. I need to release some music, 0:12:49.200 --> 0:12:52.040 you know what I mean. So another situation, the Ghetto 0:12:52.080 --> 0:12:54.480 Boys situation had came. It took me a second. I 0:12:54.480 --> 0:12:56.960 didn't jump on it right away. I pondered it for 0:12:57.000 --> 0:13:01.640 a while, and you know, decided to go that route 0:13:02.240 --> 0:13:04.320 kind of worked out from a little bit though I 0:13:04.320 --> 0:13:07.800 would have thought about it more in hindsight, you did 0:13:07.840 --> 0:13:11.679 what I'm saying, But yeah, that's what. 0:13:11.360 --> 0:13:14.960 We were doing. 0:13:15.840 --> 0:13:20.079 I'm sorry, ahead, Yeah, I'm sorry. Had you and three two? 0:13:20.440 --> 0:13:21.080 Uh? 0:13:21.320 --> 0:13:23.840 Had you and three two had done music together? 0:13:24.400 --> 0:13:29.600 And and how were y'all presented the death row situation? 0:13:30.280 --> 0:13:34.880 Basically being from being from where y'all were, who convinced 0:13:34.920 --> 0:13:37.360 y'all to come to Cali and try out the death 0:13:37.440 --> 0:13:38.199 row situation? 0:13:39.240 --> 0:13:44.600 Ah Man, So me and three two we had. 0:13:45.320 --> 0:13:48.600 We was introduced to each other by the label right. 0:13:49.360 --> 0:13:51.800 Well, yeah, I rapped a lot, right. 0:13:51.960 --> 0:13:56.520 They had this the the convicts concept right that they 0:13:56.640 --> 0:14:00.760 was they was putting together. So I was a solo 0:14:00.920 --> 0:14:05.680 artist and me and Tony Draper, Me and Toni Draper, 0:14:06.040 --> 0:14:10.280 we had worked at restaurant together, right. 0:14:10.760 --> 0:14:10.920 So. 0:14:13.360 --> 0:14:15.439 We would go we would go to the studio. 0:14:15.640 --> 0:14:17.760 Bro he would put he would take money out of 0:14:17.800 --> 0:14:19.640 his check put getting the studio. 0:14:20.600 --> 0:14:21.280 I'll do the. 0:14:21.200 --> 0:14:27.320 Same, and it was gonna be me and him and 0:14:27.840 --> 0:14:29.800 the demos that we was making. 0:14:31.560 --> 0:14:34.320 Through Tony. They got over there to rap a lot, right. 0:14:34.520 --> 0:14:35.280 So once. 0:14:36.600 --> 0:14:39.840 Once Jay had heard it, he probably wanted to have 0:14:39.920 --> 0:14:42.920 a meeting and he was like, look, I see what 0:14:43.000 --> 0:14:46.040 y'all doing. Right, We got this situation over here with 0:14:46.080 --> 0:14:48.560 the convicts. If you help me with this, then I'm 0:14:48.560 --> 0:14:52.280 gonna help y'all. You feel me, right, what you're doing, 0:14:52.360 --> 0:14:54.960 you feel me? So I looked at it, you know, 0:14:55.120 --> 0:14:57.600 tall about any things, and it led up to us 0:14:57.600 --> 0:14:59.440 doing that. So that's how me and three two had 0:14:59.440 --> 0:15:02.440 got into to each other, right, But it was automatic 0:15:02.520 --> 0:15:05.040 once we had met each other, it was automatic. We 0:15:05.200 --> 0:15:08.640 just clicked and so we have recorded the convicts album 0:15:08.680 --> 0:15:11.200 before right before we had came out there, the Convicts 0:15:11.200 --> 0:15:14.360 album was released. I think it was out. I don't 0:15:14.360 --> 0:15:18.480 even think it was out a whole year whatnot. But depending, 0:15:18.520 --> 0:15:20.720 it's all about who you ask. I know, people got 0:15:20.800 --> 0:15:26.480 different stories. But I one day I know how. I 0:15:27.560 --> 0:15:30.240 later found out the end the workings of the whole 0:15:30.320 --> 0:15:35.840 move once I got to California, right, But really it 0:15:35.960 --> 0:15:37.800 was like one day, man, they just hit us and 0:15:38.000 --> 0:15:39.640 was like, y'all going to California? 0:15:40.120 --> 0:15:41.440 Were young? You feel me? 0:15:42.960 --> 0:15:47.120 Why what I'm saying, let's go? Yeah, I was, man, 0:15:47.160 --> 0:15:50.160 And it was like the next day we had flew out. Nigga, 0:15:50.160 --> 0:15:52.280 ain't even have no clothes and ship you feel me? 0:15:53.280 --> 0:15:57.120 Motherfucker just caught out. But yeah, it was, it was, 0:15:57.160 --> 0:15:57.920 it was, it was. 0:15:58.000 --> 0:16:02.440 It was a few people in off in that in 0:16:02.520 --> 0:16:05.800 that whole move, but I just can't. 0:16:05.800 --> 0:16:07.120 Here around at that time. 0:16:07.800 --> 0:16:10.800 Tom was here, you are round at the time, but 0:16:10.920 --> 0:16:13.960 we would talk to him on the phone. Why you 0:16:14.160 --> 0:16:16.120 have yo, We would talk to him on the phone. 0:16:18.680 --> 0:16:25.560 I don't know. I know we was requested. So I'm trying. 0:16:25.600 --> 0:16:28.240 I'm trying to go back, man and run it all down, right. 0:16:28.960 --> 0:16:30.000 I know what you're doing. 0:16:31.360 --> 0:16:34.720 It's a lot to it. Yeah, but it's a lot 0:16:34.760 --> 0:16:36.080 to it. It was a lot to it. 0:16:36.160 --> 0:16:40.320 But it was a situation with Harry Yo and and 0:16:40.440 --> 0:16:46.840 Jay m hm. It was a situation with them and 0:16:46.840 --> 0:16:49.840 and that's in in in from my understanding. 0:16:50.120 --> 0:16:54.520 At first, that's what led to us going down there. 0:16:55.080 --> 0:16:59.600 You know, they was doing the death rope thing, and 0:16:59.640 --> 0:17:01.960 they was like the convicts on death Row, they thought 0:17:01.960 --> 0:17:04.680 it'd be a good move, and that's how we had 0:17:04.680 --> 0:17:07.120 wound up going down there. But like I say, it's 0:17:07.160 --> 0:17:09.159 a whole lot of other things that had came to 0:17:09.320 --> 0:17:13.440 light later on, right, and I was able to put 0:17:13.480 --> 0:17:15.920 the pieces together and see the whole in the workers 0:17:15.920 --> 0:17:16.159 of it. 0:17:16.680 --> 0:17:18.600 But it'll take a long ass time. 0:17:18.720 --> 0:17:22.119 But in short, right, it was it was talks between 0:17:22.160 --> 0:17:26.959 Harry Yo and Jay that that led to it. But 0:17:27.040 --> 0:17:29.879 I think it was a collective you know, with with 0:17:29.880 --> 0:17:33.520 with with with with the heads over there at death 0:17:33.640 --> 0:17:37.440 Row about making a move and and climbering about us, right. 0:17:37.760 --> 0:17:41.000 But I think because Harry Yo and Jay probably had 0:17:41.000 --> 0:17:45.400 a relationship, right, he was the one that instigated it, 0:17:46.400 --> 0:17:46.720 you did. 0:17:47.480 --> 0:17:50.919 So yeah, yeah, that's crazy, man, That's kind of like 0:17:51.000 --> 0:17:53.920 and that's history. People don't never talk about because you 0:17:53.960 --> 0:17:56.160 would have never thought of you know, Big Michael Lord 0:17:56.200 --> 0:17:57.280 three two was at Death Row. 0:17:57.760 --> 0:18:00.159 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, we was. We was there. We 0:18:00.200 --> 0:18:02.159 had man, we was having fun. Man, We was turning 0:18:02.200 --> 0:18:03.040 on me new people. 0:18:03.080 --> 0:18:03.320 Man. 0:18:03.640 --> 0:18:04.960 We learned a lot down there. 0:18:05.080 --> 0:18:07.920 You know, we left, We left our mark down there, right, 0:18:08.359 --> 0:18:11.400 And I just wish that we was able to see 0:18:11.440 --> 0:18:14.960 it through right and finish the whole thing up. But 0:18:15.280 --> 0:18:17.399 you know, things happened like they happened. You can't you 0:18:17.440 --> 0:18:20.080 can't live with regrets, right. We was able to go 0:18:20.160 --> 0:18:22.280 back home and still put the match down. 0:18:22.680 --> 0:18:22.919 You know. 0:18:23.080 --> 0:18:25.879 But yeah, man, it would have been lovely. We was 0:18:25.920 --> 0:18:28.280 able to release that Convicts record on death Bro. It 0:18:28.320 --> 0:18:29.640 would have been super dope. 0:18:30.480 --> 0:18:31.080 Yeah. 0:18:31.320 --> 0:18:34.840 Yeah, we had with Warren g one G. 0:18:35.600 --> 0:18:36.000 We had. 0:18:36.119 --> 0:18:38.080 We had the song on that motherful with Snoop. 0:18:38.160 --> 0:18:38.320 Man. 0:18:38.359 --> 0:18:39.480 It was early in the game. 0:18:39.560 --> 0:18:42.640 But I know that that one is released on It's 0:18:42.720 --> 0:18:47.760 it's floating around there on line. It's called playing for Keeps. Yeah, 0:18:47.960 --> 0:18:51.760 we Snooped three two one G on the track. Yeah, 0:18:51.880 --> 0:18:54.520 but it was it was early production though, but that 0:18:54.600 --> 0:18:57.720 one is out came from good to hear it after 0:18:57.760 --> 0:18:58.960 so many years. 0:18:59.359 --> 0:19:06.040 Man. Warren used to do a lot of sampling back then. 0:19:06.400 --> 0:19:10.840 Everybody was sampling back then. Oh yeah, definitely, the just 0:19:11.119 --> 0:19:14.840 sampling back then. It wasn't just samplings. Niggas was able 0:19:14.840 --> 0:19:17.119 to chop them up, you feel me, But niggas was 0:19:17.640 --> 0:19:19.360 sampling was still keen back then. 0:19:21.920 --> 0:19:24.480 Well yeah, like a mother. It seemed like that sh 0:19:24.560 --> 0:19:27.480 it is a lost or. But you know what when 0:19:27.520 --> 0:19:31.640 you went back down there to to wrap a up, 0:19:32.400 --> 0:19:35.720 was the Ghetto Boys offer a life changeing situation. 0:19:40.560 --> 0:19:44.480 In a sense, right, I mean to the point like, Okay, 0:19:44.520 --> 0:19:47.960 the Ghetto Boys had already was making strides, right, they 0:19:48.000 --> 0:19:52.520 had already you know, especially down in age time, right, 0:19:53.400 --> 0:19:58.160 and to come back and pay for the hometown team, 0:19:58.200 --> 0:20:01.359 I guess it would become like the equipment of a 0:20:01.440 --> 0:20:04.840 homegrown product getting drafted and playing for the Texans up 0:20:04.840 --> 0:20:06.120 playing for the Rockets. 0:20:06.440 --> 0:20:06.640 Right. 0:20:07.760 --> 0:20:08.880 That's how That's how I. 0:20:08.800 --> 0:20:10.359 Have felt about it, you know. 0:20:11.160 --> 0:20:14.879 But yeah, it was it was an exciting time, you know, 0:20:15.119 --> 0:20:17.160 the anticipation about it and everything. 0:20:18.200 --> 0:20:21.600 But yeah, that's how that's how I felt about it. 0:20:21.960 --> 0:20:24.400 You know, I try to look at it like that, 0:20:24.520 --> 0:20:27.199 and and you know, I know at home it was 0:20:27.200 --> 0:20:30.240 well received. I don't know, some people say you know, 0:20:32.520 --> 0:20:34.639 you know they like the inner ration that Ghetto Boys 0:20:34.680 --> 0:20:37.199 were just really deep. Wish we can scar face. I 0:20:37.240 --> 0:20:41.240 could dig that too, But the Ghetto Boys was always 0:20:40.960 --> 0:20:45.920 like like like a franchise, right players, players leave you 0:20:46.000 --> 0:20:49.120 bringing more players, you feel me, And it was always 0:20:49.280 --> 0:20:52.960 like that. But for me, I was able to get 0:20:53.000 --> 0:20:55.480 my name out there. It led to me being in 0:20:55.520 --> 0:20:58.159 a position to drop my solo records. You feel me, 0:20:58.560 --> 0:21:01.480 to embark upon my solo career. So I used the 0:21:01.520 --> 0:21:03.439 opportunity to the best. 0:21:05.560 --> 0:21:08.760 So yeah, So at the completion of the Ghetto Boys album, 0:21:09.480 --> 0:21:11.040 you're like, hey, man, I want to offer you a 0:21:11.040 --> 0:21:16.920 solo deal for your services or yeah alreadyod or he came, 0:21:17.200 --> 0:21:18.640 he came, you have to get a boys out. 0:21:19.240 --> 0:21:24.119 And before you answer that question, Jay was behind the 0:21:25.400 --> 0:21:29.159 Death Row record. So what made him go, no, fuck that, 0:21:29.359 --> 0:21:31.560 come over here and do this Ghetto Boys record? 0:21:33.040 --> 0:21:33.680 Say that again. 0:21:34.720 --> 0:21:39.159 So Jay was in support of y'all as the convicts, 0:21:39.240 --> 0:21:42.480 going to get on the row and do a project 0:21:42.520 --> 0:21:47.360 over there. Yeah, why did he turn around and go 0:21:47.440 --> 0:21:51.720 fuck that, come back home and do this Ghetto Boys project? 0:21:51.960 --> 0:21:54.919 He didn't, he is he didn't say, he wasn't like 0:21:55.040 --> 0:21:59.000 fuck that, right, not in that sense, But it was 0:21:59.080 --> 0:22:04.720 separate fe okay, getting it wasn't yeah, continuing on me 0:22:05.040 --> 0:22:08.679 still performing or releasing the project with the convicts? 0:22:08.760 --> 0:22:12.359 Right? But was it was? It? 0:22:12.520 --> 0:22:17.160